7/14/26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/ Chad Brendel

Chad Brendel talks all things Cincy Sports filling in for Mo Egger on ESPN1530!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Here we go Moegar Show. Since not E's ESPN fifteen thirty,
I am still not Mogar. I will not be Mogar
all week. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Thank you
for choosing me, Thank you for tuning in. I'd say

(00:41):
we got a lot to get to today. Yeah, the
roughest week of the year in UH sports radio might
expand next year. There's no Baseball Boy load management summer,
so MO might take the whole summer off, Taran, if

(01:03):
if there's a lockout, good five unpaid minutes with Chad
Brendle might be back next summer, which I'm open to.
Always had fun spending five minutes, which was actually like
twelve minutes a day with MO during the pandemic, talking
about essentially nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Chad's five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, five unpaid minutes with Chad Brendle.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Which sometimes turned like twelve unpaid minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it was never five, mainly because he was looking
for stuff to talk about, So you know, I'd get
that call at like three forty two and stretch to
like three fifty five. I missed those days, good times.
I mean, honestly, Taran, I didn't hate the lockdown me neither.

(01:57):
I kind of like just being locked away from people.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
We did it just like like once a month every year.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Just locked down for like, what what are you locking down?
Like four days? Like four days? Everybody just stays home
every month?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh we do?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
We do a week Okay, Monday through Friday, maybe like
middle of the month, like the second week of every month.
We just locked down and everybody has to stay home.
I'm down. I don't really like interacting with people all
that much. But anyhow, it's a it's a long week.

(02:37):
That's why why Moe's off, That's why Lance is off,
That's why I'm here. We're gonna give it our best shot.
Today kind of kind of played the cheat code today,
Tarn because a friend of the show longtime mentored to
me as I was getting into the business, former radio

(02:57):
partner of mine at a different radio life that that
you know, you go through over the course of your
time in the sports media business, has retired and today
he's going to come join us for an hour and
we're going to tell stories and talk about one of

(03:18):
the maybe more interesting careers in sports media that you
will find. Because Richard Skinner has done everything. We've been
a beat writer, he's he's been a radio host, He's
been on TV regularly US. He's done play by play
for a multitude of sporting events across the Try State

(03:40):
over the years. I believe at one point in time
he was he did bowling broadcasts at the beginning of
his career. Terran Richard Skinner has done pretty much everything,
and at least for now he's he's retiring and he
is going to join me in studio from four to
five o'clock. I don't know how much local like current

(04:02):
local sports, we'll get into. I'm sure there'll be a little.
But I want some stories from Skinny. I want to hear.
I want you guys to hear how well him and
Carl Pickens got along when Carl Pickens was a Bengal.
Well stories from the two angry guys. What was it

(04:25):
like to work with Tom Gamble every morning? You know what, Chief, Chief,
you know what. I don't even like Skinny come on, Ralph,
come on. So I'm very excited for that because Skinny
and I have a long history. He is one of
those guys that if you were young and you were

(04:49):
getting into the business, he was more than willing to help.
You know, at the time, there was kind of three
guys locally that took me in a little bit and
helped guide my pass. One is Mike de Corsi, who's
no longer in town, moved Indianapolis a couple of years back,
but Mike was very much a mentor to me. Meant

(05:09):
a lot to me as I was getting into the business.
Richard Skinner and then George Vogel, those three all were
guys that were more than willing to help out and
assist if you had the work ethic. They weren't just
gonna go out of their way to help anybody, but
if you had the work ethic and you had the initiative,

(05:33):
they were all very open and honest and gave you
great guidance along the way. And the Skinny is genuinely done.
I don't knowing Skinny. I can't imagine Skinny just easing
into retirement and coasting. He's gonna do something. We'll ask
him that figure out what it might be. But for now,

(05:56):
retirement for Richard Skinner and a whole hour four to
five o'clock today here on this radio program to talk
about his career. So really looking forward to that, got
a couple Bengals topics, got a couple of Reds topics
that I want to get to as well. With the
Reds and this, you know, we've we've gotten until Thursday

(06:18):
before you know, this thing really gets back rolling. So
it's it's deep dive time on the Reds. And I
think one of the questions is are you comfortable with
the management group that's in place right now being in

(06:40):
charge of restocking this thing, being in charge of figuring
out what the next play is, what the next move
is on the chess board to get this back to
you know, Tony and I just talked about this on
Quick Hits on three sixty. They're twenty fourth in the stand,

(07:01):
twenty fifth in their minor league organization. So they're not
a good baseball team. And there's very little that you
look at to say, okay, just give it a little
bit more time, and there's reason for optimism. You go

(07:21):
back four years when they sold off Castillo and Winker
and that group of guys. One, you knew you had
some higher end guys that were gonna, you know, command
a decent market, a decent you know, share of the market.

(07:44):
When you brought them in and there were already some
pieces in the minor league system, namely Ellie working their
way up that you were excited about to say, Okay,
you mix this with that, Matt McClain, Ellie Hunter, Green, Nicolodolo,
Like there was at least a core of you add

(08:09):
Spencer Steer, and you add you know, at the time,
Christian and Carnacio and Strand and Noel v Marte and
all right, now you're you're working with a little bit here.
You had Jonathan India that had just won Rookie of
the Year and Tyler Stevenson that had finished right at
the top behind Jonathan India and Rookie of the Year. Okay,
they're coming out of the wilderness, and it feels like

(08:30):
they've got a chance going forward to put a good
group together. They didn't really hit on many of the trades,
many of the acquisitions. They didn't really turn that capital
into major league success. They've turned it into major league mediocrity.
Instead of one hundred lost team, you're hovering at five hundred.

(08:55):
Problem is a proud organization. I don't think there's many
people out there that are happy with let's just eliminate
the peaks and valleys. We'll use their wording, Well, we've
eliminated the peaks, we have not eliminated the valleys. And
I don't know that there's a lot of confidence with

(09:15):
this group in the front office to steward this thing forward.
But you run into another problem. There's probably not going
to be baseball in twenty twenty seven, or if there
is baseball in twenty twenty seven, it's not going to
be a full season worth of baseball. So are you

(09:38):
really going to blow out your entire front office? Because
that's the thing for me, This is all or nothing
if you're not willing to start over, if you're not
willing to look at your front office and say this
hasn't been good enough. We need to clean house and

(10:01):
find a different path. Because there are teams out there,
right in our range of payroll, right in our range
of ability financially, that are having consistent success, and we're
not one of them. And the front office is I

(10:22):
think the largest reason why they have not drafted well,
they have not developed well, that they have not created
that steady pipeline from either high school or college into
your system and then up to the major league level

(10:42):
where they can contribute and help. There's been a couple
hits that has been it not enough for an organization
that operates at the size and scale that you that
you do with the major league level. There's rookie ball,

(11:03):
there's there's A ball, there's high A ball, there's Double A,
there's Triple A. You know, five to six teams that
you're using to develop your talent. I mean, you look
at Triple A. There's what one prospect two prospects in
Triple A that that people look at and feel like
have a chance to help the Reds. So the front

(11:23):
office needs to go. But I don't know if this
is an ownership group that's going to do it with
a lockout pending to get a new group in here
and then have them not be able to really do
anything for a while. And that causes a problem because
now I wasn't confident with this group going into the draft,

(11:46):
and the draft looked like a lot of the other
drafts that have gotten us into this place over the
past five seven years, and they haven't been very successful
taking the roster, flipping it when it's time and restocking
your farm system. You know, we said this two three

(12:08):
years ago when all these guys came up. How long
is it going to take for them to get this
group through the miners, this next group through the miners
and ready for the bigs hasn't happened. Hasn't happened, and
the trades didn't really work out. Spencer Steer, I guess

(12:32):
you could give them credit for that one, but you know,
go look at who they got for Luis Castillo, Marte
and Arroyo were the two headliners there to top top
five prospects to top six five six prospects in the
Mariners organization hasn't worked. Do you really want those same

(12:58):
people making those same decisions again, that's the hard part
for me. That's what I struggle with. So we'll get
to some of that, and we'll get to when you
look at yesterday, everybody, you know, the big topic yesterday
across sports talk radio was the Jeremy Fowler releasing his

(13:23):
poll of league executive coaches and scouts on the top
ten quarterbacks in the NFL. Joe Burrow came in fourth,
but they have also released most of the other lists
running backs, cornerbacks, edge rushers, defensive tackles, tight ends, offensive tackles, interior,
offensive lineman, quarterbacks and off ball linebackers. Only two left.

(13:44):
Tomorrow we get wide receivers. Jamar Chase is going to
be one two there. Not sure where T Higgins will
be there. I don't expect him to be in the
top ten, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got
a blip in honorable mentions. And then safeties, which I
think pretty safe bet that Brian cook is in the

(14:07):
back end of the top ten. If he's not in
the back end of the top ten, he won't be
far off of that. So you got Joe burrowh four.
The only other Bengals so far to make a top
ten was Dexter Lawrence interior defensive lineman defensive tackles. He

(14:29):
came in at seventh. Then you got honorable mention Chase Brown,
and you got honorable mention DJ Turner. So the Jamar
Chase thing one two that he's going to be right
there at the top. He's probably he's going to be

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the high I would guess with Burrow four he'll be
the highest rated Bengal at his position on the roster.
And then safeties. Like I said, I feel good that
Cooko bake the top ten the back end of the
top ten. But if not, he's going to be, you know,
right off the right off the page. Is six enough,

(15:12):
six guys that are either top ten at their position
or just off for a team to get to where
the Bengals want to get. What's obvious is is this
is going to be significantly better than last year. Significantly
better than last year when really Burrow Chase what else?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Not much.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
If anything? So, like Tony said when we were talking
about this on Quick Hits, I think it's pretty clear
the floor of this team is raised. But in order
to be a Super Bowl team, in order to be
an AFC Championship quality team, the ceiling needs to be

(16:01):
pretty high too. Is the ceiling high enough? And what
does this exercise tell us about where the Bengals are
at in terms of personnel and talent? So we'll get
to that in our number three. So we go reds
Now Richard Skinner at four from four to five. Then

(16:23):
we come back, we'll do our number three talking some
Bengals and we'll check in on the World Cup. Probably
the the Championship match essentially just started about twenty minutes ago,
which twenty minutes in soccer is a long time. It

(16:43):
might be over already. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I haven't looked yet.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
France and Spain playing right now, so we'll keep you
updated on that and much much more. That's the Moegger Show.
We'll be back right after this. Since that he's the
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Speaker 2 (17:43):
We're at the UH hydration break tearin in a domed
covered stadium in Dallas. I mean, I'm sure it's hot
in Dallas, don't get me wrong. Just not a fan
of the hydration breaks. I mean, you know, at times

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they're necessary. I think that should be a match by
match basis and not you know, it might get hot,
so we put hydration breaks in for everybody. Anyhow. Spain
up one nothing, one nil, I guess one nil. Spain
leads France on the pitch in Dallas, Texas. Penalty kick

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for Spain starts the scoring here in the semi finals,
everybody says this is pretty much one versus two in
the world. This is kind of the de facto championship
for some, although we have seen many times where people
make that claim and then you know, the the other

(18:59):
semi final stands up winning the championship. Down the road,
we'll get Argentina and England during this show tomorrow. It's
been an awesome World Cup. The stars for the most part,

(19:19):
have been stars. The games have been highly compelling. You
get to the end, You've had some upsets along the way,
some surprises getting out of the group stage, but ultimately
you get down to the final four and you got
the top four teams in the world. I contend that's

(19:42):
generally how you want it to happen in tournaments of
this magnitude. You want some excitement, you want some fun early,
you want the intrigue. You know, you need the close games,
you need the drama. You need the best players in

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the world playing like the best players in the world.
Messi has been incredible, and Bope's been incredible, Holland was awesome,
and then when it's go time, you find out who
the world champion is. I think it's been an awesome event.
I think it's been a great event for America. I

(20:30):
think everybody has been highly impressed. The teams from around
the world have been highly impressed with the American cities,
the American stadiums, the ability for the United States to
host an event of this magnitude, and the number of

(20:55):
huge stadiums that we've got here in the country that
can host an event like this. Most places, when they
announce that they're getting the World Cup or that like
they announced it a country's getting the Olympics, there's like
a huge campaign. They have to raise money, they have
to build facilities, they have to really, you know, ramp

(21:17):
up for doing something like hosting a World Cup in America.
Were like, well, you know, we gotta we got to
have a selection process to cut off the forty places
that are awesome that we're not going to let host
this thing. And it seems like they've done a great
job with the selection of the places that have hosted.

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Let's take a break.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
When we get back, we'll talk about last night's home
run derby Kyle Schwarber look like a lock for a minute,
but the magenta ball, the new rules come into effect
and the championship, the home run Derby Championship is coming

(22:10):
back to the National League Central.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's coming home. Something like that. That's only a college
sports thing and pro sports. Everybody hates the teams that
are in your division. Hate them. College sports. They chant SEC,
or at least the teams that aren't good chant SEC

(22:33):
to connect themselves to the teams that are. That's a
story for a different day. Take a break more after
this since Anty's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
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Speaker 8 (22:46):
This is sports with soul, sweat and swagger. Tony Pike,
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Speaker 7 (23:06):
It isn't on this symptom the.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Man when heard somebody said that they don't let myself
for that, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Never it's a lot of It seems like there's a
lot of editing under this song turn because they don't.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Need to come in b I like my job and
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I wasn't complaining. I would get in trouble for that too. Yeah,
no albums, just like all the stuff on the My
Love It, the the Snoop Dog No Limit album that

(23:56):
that No Limit really had, Like master P had it
figured out right because there were probably what like three
or four really good rappers on No Limit, but there
was like fifteen people releasing albums, so he would just
have the three or four really good ones do songs

(24:18):
on everybody else's album, so that you had to go
get everybody else liked?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Did you like Fiend? Were you even old enough for
the No Limit? Raitaran?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Of course, ed'l Done was my first CD. Okay, oh,
for God, that makes me.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It makes me feel old, It makes me feel old.
N Taran didn't know who Bob Hope was. Today Willie
and I we were reminiscenting over our experiences with Bob Hope.
I met Bob Hope in a hotel in Paduka, Kentucky,

(24:59):
when I was like ten years old. Willie of course
was like, well, I had him on my show. You
recognize Bob Hope when you saw him, though, right, of course, Okay,
you just didn't know exactly. I mean, I'd imagine by
the time you were really watching TV, like the USO
thing was not really big anymore. Bob Hope had kind

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of I mean, he he was old by the time
you were grown up. At least lived to be I
didn't know he lived to be one hundred Bob Hope
last night thrilling home run derby see Arran last night

(25:44):
is why I'm taking the home run derby over the
three point contest. That was fun. The first couple rounds
were were not as as thrilling, but it's kind of
how these things work. More often than not, there's build
up to the championship round, and then in the championship

(26:07):
round you had Kyle Schwarber. The Philly fans were, we're
having some fun with it, very loud, obviously for Schwarber
anybody else. They booed Jordan Walker from Saint Louis. How
about this terran Jordan Walker's salary for twenty twenty six

(26:27):
seven hundred and ninety nine four hundred dollars. He won
a million dollars last night hitting home runs tax free? Well, no,
but his salary isn't tax free either, So he made
more money last night than he will for the entire
twenty twenty six baseball season. That's pretty wild. But Schwarber

(26:53):
hits hits eleven home runs in fifteen swings and in
the finals, and it felt like, boy, this you Jordan Walker,
who was awesome, especially in the semi finals. It's like, Okay,
Jordan Walker, probably probably not going to to get the

(27:17):
job done here. But under the new rules, the last ball,
which I think this is, this is very fair. I
give it two thumbs up. You can't end your round
on a home run the last ball. If you keep

(27:39):
hitting home runs, you keep swinging. So Walker needed to
get to twelve and I think he had seven at
the end of quote unquote the You know, he had
forty to fifteen pitches. Through fourteen pitches, he had seven
home runs and he made it all the way to

(28:02):
twelve without making an out. And you could just increasingly
see Phillies fans kind of sensing oh no, like, oh no,
he's not We're not gonna get our moment. We're not

(28:24):
gonna get our hometown guy, best home run hitter in
the world right now. We're not gonna get to see
him win the home run Derby on his home turf.
And it was exciting. I didn't get to watch a

(28:47):
ton We were doing our Monday night podcast on Bearcat
Journal for the first, you know, probably sixty percent of it,
and then got to tune in really and pay attention
the last half of the the second round and then
all of the finals, and uh, well, Schwarber is is

(29:08):
fun to watch hit home runs and he just crushes
the ball. Jordan Walker for a lot of it. Did
you watch Tarin or were you watching raw Terren's busy
might be letting skinny it. He was hitting like like

(29:31):
laser beam line drives that you know, the they count
all the same, but you know, the the Schwarber ones
are like majestic four hundred and fifty foot bombs, where
Jordan Walker's getting them right over the wall line drives

(29:52):
at you know, three hundred and ninety feet, which you
know isn't as fan friendly. But when it all comes
down to it, Jordan Walker gets the victory and and
Kyle Schwarber gets You could see it in Schwarber's face too,
the reality when Walker got to like nine or ten,

(30:14):
he was like, uh, he's actually gonna catch me, isn't he?

Speaker 9 (30:18):
Now?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I was I was kind of hoping it would It
would tie at eleven and we get extra swings.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Uh, just for the fun of it. That wasn't in
the Netflix script.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well that should have been the Netflix script, right, get
us to extra swings for the hometown kid. Well, I
mean he's not from Philadelphia's from? Where's he from? I've
never heard anybody mention where he's from. Do we know
where Kyle Schwarber's from?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not sure? Oh well, then he moved off Netflix last
year because I was one hundred percent locked in the
Monday Night Raw last year.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Last night last Yeah, I mean, look, I think the
thing is, there's nobody been There's nobody that's ever been
as good at Home Run Derby as Chris Berman. And
I'm not a big Chris Berman guy, like I don't
necessarily love listening to Chris Berman all the time. But

(31:21):
Home Run Derby, with the nicknames and the back back
back back back back back back back back, like Chris
Berman was the Home Run Derby for the longest time.
It felt like they were trying too hard last night,
like you do the the opening thing with Will Ferrell.
That was awkward. I don't think they did a good

(31:43):
job and maybe I missed it some in the beginning
because I was doing a podcast like explaining the Magenta Ball.
Because you kept seeing like, Jordan Walker, would you start
doing the math? He's got five swings and he needs

(32:04):
six home runs, And if you just tuned in, you're like, well,
this is over. He needs six home runs, He's only
got five swings. Why what's the point of even carrying
this on? Because I don't think they did a good
enough job on Netflix explaining the last ball is kind

(32:24):
of an infinity ball. If you don't make an out,
did you You didn't even watch, so you don't You
don't have an opinion on the new format, do you?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah? No, I just watched the highlights Jordan Walker's final
round on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I didn't mind it. It felt like it moved faster
instead of the like the you know they had in
the past. They've been doing what the timed rounds and
then you get to take time out. The timeouts felt
like they were forever. This felt a little you know,

(33:01):
you still got a chance to like, you know, reset
and catch your wind, but it felt like this moved
a little more efficiently. But you know, again, you didn't
have you know, you want to make this thing great

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and Schwarber is probably the best home run hitter in
baseball right now, but you don't have show Hay in
there and and some of the you know, Judge obviously
is hurt, so he's not in there. But I don't
think he would have been in there anyway. Guys don't
want to don't want to mess up their swing, and
it's perfect. This is kind of Jordan Walker is kind
of the uh the dunk contest level entrint for the

(33:45):
home run Derby. Right, young guy on his rookie deal,
big power, big strong body, so it you know it,
it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm still taking three point shootout.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm not.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
I just I don't because last night what Jordan Walker
did is basically like an'tough Remember twenty sixteen when Klay
Thompson went after Steph and.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
He had to hit like eight in a row to
to beat Steph. He got hot.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I mean that's that's you know, That's the nature
of the home run Derby or the three point contest
is somebody whoever gets hot is is gonna win it.

Speaker 10 (34:26):
And the excitement is there because I will like Willy
miss yeah, I just man. And then the thing is
like even with his last swing, he took like four,
like I said, four balls before he finally but.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's not his fault. If it's not a pitch, it's
not a good pitch. It's not a pitching machine.

Speaker 10 (34:45):
Be'st the thing with a three point shootout, you ain't
got time just stopping like, oh, didn't notice it, I
don't have the right form or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You can like, if you feel like the ball's not
right in your hands, you can stop for a second.
Set Sure, you can, don't shoot it. They're not swinging.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, if you don't shoot, but it's time though, you
get a minute. I think you get a minute to
get around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
A lot of those guys finish early.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Don't they.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
No, Okay, Look, I think it's close between the two,
Like the dunk contest is a clear number one. Me personally,
i'd have the home run derby second, the three point
shootout third. But I don't think there's a discernible like
gap between the dunk con or between the three point
shootout and the home run derby. But I would prefer

(35:40):
what we got to see last night. I thought that
was fun. You wouldn't know because you were watching seeing
punk Kit Roman reins in the face with the microphone.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
LANs.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Sorry, that was me pretending to know wrestling Seeampunk's on SmackDown.

Speaker 9 (36:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Is Oba gonna beat Brock at SUMMERSLAMTERWN?

Speaker 10 (36:11):
It's gonna be tough. That's that's Brock's hometown. I think
he should think he will, though, hell in the sale.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't know how, Like, if you're really gonna push
him to the top, how do you have him lose
that match? Because it's triple.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
H it's Tkoh yeah, makes sense?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, let's take a break. Richard Skinner joins US
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Speaker 2 (37:10):
I renumber two. Here we go, The Moegar Show. I'm
not Moegar. Chad Brenda, Bearcat Journal filling in FROMO all week.
The best of weeks to be on sports radio. If
when you when you look at your calendar, I thank

(37:31):
you for choosing me. When you look at your calendar.
Every year you go Man All Star Week. That's peak
sports talk radio. So I thought one of the big
stories in local media recently is the announced retirement of

(37:52):
a mentor of mine, somebody that has uh. We we
shared a microphone together at one point. It was didn't
share it, but we were in the same we use
different microphones, yes, a little bit more specific. That would
be weird if we shared a microphone like correct, correct,
although at that place it wouldn't have been. It wouldn't

(38:13):
have been out of the question. But we were radio
partners in a in a different radio existence. Somebody that
I've always admired because they've rolled with the punches better
than just about anybody I've ever seen in sports media,
sometimes not by their own volition, but very few people

(38:34):
have done radio, print, TV, all in different capacities, all
in different eras.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
You did bowling, I believe did bowling for cable one
of Northern Kentucky. Ted Bushman's group the best.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yes, there was nobody better than Ted bush was my
favorite man. Did you ever do any of the Thomas
Moore games?

Speaker 11 (38:55):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (38:55):
I absolute. Jeff Bacoro and I were the first voices
of Thomas Morrison.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Did I pick up after you well know that the
inside the basketball games when they had that uh studio
quote unquote, I use a loose term in like a
hallway closet. Yes, that just had all the like Ted
just collected TV equipment.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
No, we we did. I say we did the games
at Dixie Heights High School. Yes, okay, that's where. And
it was me Cooro and a guy who was in
this business for a while. He's now in I believe,
a lawyer, Dennison Killer.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
We were the three person team for Thomas Moore football.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Man I did. I did Thomas Moore basketball for a while,
and then we would do the Kentucky, Ohio All Star Game,
and then I did some games for Ted and Ted
had the bus at one time. Man, rest his soul.
He was the best, a true one. Like a lot
of people claim to be one of one, he was
one of one.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
There was no other depth local communications at the airport,
I mean all the time job not yeah that, but
he did all this stuff on the side, and he
worked so hard at it. And I remember they did
a a testimonial for him for lack of a better
Tournament of Florence Shall's game. They had a suite and
also did games for him at the Florence Shaw's And
I just remember I had to walk up and I

(40:09):
almost cried to tell him how much he meant to me,
give me a start, Like I was at nobody from nowhere.
I was working for his wife at the Recorder newspapers
and one time he just goes, do you know how broadcast?
I go kind of what I want to do. Sure,
I'll give it a shot, and he throws me in
there and off we go.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, he did that for a lot of people.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like that's you know, because you miss intduction. I'm Richard Skinner,
Richard Skinner, formerly of the Post, the Inquirer, the Recorder,
this radio radio station, that radio station.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yeah, correct, Homer. I did some sports talk on WCVG
radio and twelve thirty and Covington in the day.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Wow, how about that? I remember that tower they had
the tower? Yeah right there.

Speaker 7 (40:52):
Did play by played to the first NKU Division One
game in San Diego. So i've if you if you'd
looked at eighteen, well, I your high school seventeen, seventeen
year old graduating from Dixie Heights High School, Richard Skinner
and said, here's where your career is gonna go. You're
gonna be able to work in your hometown for the
vast majority of your career, and you're gonna be lucky
enough to cover all these things. And I going, Ah,

(41:14):
you're funny. You're a funny, funny person. It's been incredible.
I mean, I got a chance to, as I mentioned,
work at the Recorder. It was a great place to work.
Pat Crowley, the late pack Rally, became a He was
in my wedding, one of my best friends, and we
worked together and I drew work ethic from him, because
nobody I've ever been around in my lifetime worked harder
than Pat did. Got a chance to finally get a

(41:35):
daily newspaper job. I remember in the classifieds in the Inquirer.
One day I looked and I saw that Maysville Ledger
Independent in Mayswell, Kentucky had an opening for a sports editor.
I thought, why not? Now the time my wife worked
for American Airlines here and she said, well, we're not
moving there, You're gonna drive. I'm like, okay. So I
made the commute every day to Maiswell, Kentucky and back

(41:56):
before there was the Double A Highway. It was Route eight,
Route fifty two. Always a forty ouncer on the way back, always.
But I had great editor there. Bob Hendrickson was the
headitor and publisher Lawnie Capponi's Who's passed away. He was
the editor news editor of the paper. But he also
used to be a sports guy to the best guys.
I mean they just let me. They basically just said,

(42:18):
here's your territory, buddy, go And I was able to
go everywhere in that region to cover sports, and it
was a great way to understand if you're gonna do something,
you better hustle your butt off to do it. And
finally then got a chance to get back up here
when I'm in nineteen ninety one thanks to it my
soon to be radio partner, Tom Gampbell's Gooviies. It sounds
how was that? For how many ever years? We did

(42:38):
it for twelve shoes. He is truly and you know
him well enough. I do one of the funniest intentionally
and unintentionally socio paths I have ever known. So when
we did the show, he was working three different jobs.
He had a sports marketing company which he still has
to this day he was doing the radio show and
then he was a professor. Literally every day I would

(43:01):
walk in, so we we did a four hour show,
but we did in three hour shifts. He would do
six to nine because he had to go teach. I
would do seven, eleven to ten. I would come in
like seven minutes late every every day, and it always
made him man. But it was just kind of the
way I did it because I was working a second
job too, but I always we always overlapped, and literally
every time I came in, he was quitting one of

(43:21):
his three jobs. I can't do with this job. You know,
I don't need to teach anymore. Well, you know what
I think, if I just teach her, it's just a funny.
I get a call every morning. In fact, I didn't
get a chance to call him back today. I get
a call every morning from him. It's eating a job
eight eleven am. No, it's just complaining about something that
There's some mornings I'm like, I do want to hear
this for comedic relief, and there's some mornings where you
know how yard just somewhere you're like, I just can't today,

(43:42):
I can't. We went to the IHM festival in Northern
Kentucky together on on Saturday. I had a few beers
at a few lasts. He's he's one of the he's
one of the truly funny people. Because a lot of
people in this business or stick right, I mean, I
get it. I appreciate those people. I could never be
that that person. It's just not my personality. Whatever I
say that I believed didn't mean you had to agree
with it. Didn't mean anybody ever did agree with it,

(44:03):
but you had to be true to yourself. And that's
the funny part about him. As much as he came
off a stick, he believed the stupidest stuff. He would say.
He is literally the only time I ever cursed on
the air was I cursed at him, and I said,
I threw my headset him and told him, you are
so full of blank threw my headset at him, and
I went, oh, crap, I just cursed on the air.
How did I just do that? You know it was
a minor curse word, but yeah, you can't curse on

(44:25):
the air. It's part of this business man.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
He's you guys, because that was I wasn't young at
that point in time, but I always wanted to get
into radio, and and you guys kind of shaped the
way that I were. You well, but I agree a
thousand percent. Look I said earlier, my mentors really were
you Vogel and DECURSI wow, correct.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
One of three. Mike is the right guy a half.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
But listening to you guys, you were you were funny,
but not you weren't going out of your way to
be funny, like it was. It was a natural part
of your friendship and your relationship and the way that
you spoke to each other that was humorous. Sports are
supposed to be fun. People forget that. I think, ye, No,
you're right.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
I'm guilty of that a lot of times myself.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Sports are supposed to be fun. This medium is supposed
to be fun. So you guys taught me a lot
in terms of, like, it doesn't have to be stuffy
and boring and oh today, you know.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
The one thing is and I told Moe this once
when he and Greg Doyle did his show. Yeah's extraordinarily talented.
He's one of the most crazy, crazy as all get out.
One of those ties at the Indianapolis Star now is
are commiss and it's been there for a while, but
Greg's extraordinarily talented guy. And when they started doing a
show is after I got done doing a show. I
think I told Moe one day, I said, you know,
you both don't have to be funny all that one

(45:51):
of you has to kind of be a straight guy.
And I tried to play that with time, like I can.
I think I got a pretty good sense of humor,
I really do. That's that's sounds like a lot of
self worth, But I do think I got a good
sense of human you do. I can laugh at a
lot of things. I can laugh at myself as much
as anybody. But at some point you have to go,
he's the funny guy, you're the straight guy. Doesn't mean
you can't be funny, doesn't mean he can't be serious,
but you got to kind of have that that guy

(46:12):
you play back and forth, it's it. Yeah, then there
has to be a chemistry.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Then there was you.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
You also have gone out of your way over the
years to help younger guys getting into the business. Was
that people helped you, Like you've mentioned, you had a
bunch of mentors and they helped you. And it's like, Okay,
I tried to do the same. I'm not always the
best at it, but I've tried to do the same.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
And honestly, I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a
high school basketball coach. I like to coach. I do
I like. I like to see people. You like to stomp,
I do like to stomp. I am a stomper and
I'm a screamer. I'm a nut. But I appreciate anybody
that wants to hustle and shows hustle. Don't don't give
me that. I want to get in the business and
then not hustle to get into business yourself. Rick Boring,
who I do the podcast with, I always you guys

(46:55):
always hustled, not just in radio, but to do other stuff.
And I was appreciated that. And to your point of mentors,
you know, I can think of the early days at
the Post I had. Even through my career at the Post,
Bill Cook, who covered UC for a long time became
a columnist, was an outstanding mentor to me, and he
protected me in so many ways. I'll give you a
quick story. So this is I was the sports director

(47:18):
of the Kentucky Post at the time I had to
I was a writer, but I also was the person
in charge of laying out the paper in charge of
what we were covering. And it was a Thursday night
during high school football season, when normally football games or
a Friday night, and they used to give you, you didn't
know your news hole or that's paper talk about for
those that don't know what I'm talking about from back
in the day until you got in that day. And

(47:38):
usually you at least get a page. Sometimes you get
two pages. And I was hoping, and I think I
had requested for two pages that night because we had
a rare Thursday. I had three high school football games
and I was going to send stringers to all three.
I was I could have gone and covered with myself,
and like, got other stuff to do. I had a
story to write, a feature, right, So this was a
day when when newspapers wanted big art in the middle

(47:59):
of a page, like it didn't matter an you just
gotta throw a big piece of big photograph in the
middle of the page, the rest of the news hold
being down. Well, I had one page that day, and
I'm spending money on these stringers. I sent them out
covering games, and so I put a small piece of
art on the page. I lay it out and then
Another sports editor who was one rung above me, came in.
He goes, oh, you're gonna have to change that. I said,

(48:19):
we're not changing. I said, I I already cut these
stories to shreds. I said, it's gonna stay as it is.
If you do any more, you're gonna cut it even
more shreds. It would have been worth sending these guys up.
Gotta have that's the edict. I go, I don't care
about the dag on edict. I said, I'm just telling
you just I said, just don't change it. Okay, I said,
this is my this is my product. Just don't change it.
Of course I get the paper that day it's changed.
I called him up and I literally told him, you

(48:39):
come in tonight. I'm gonna kick your blank. I said,
I'm literally gonna kick your blank. And you think I'm
kidding walking that door and find out, because I'm gonna
drop you where you stand. And so he of course
calls people above me. They call me, They get mad
at me, of course, and rightfully so. And so that
night I decide I'm quitting. I'm done. I'm going in.
So we used to have this instant messenger and on
the messenger. I sent something to the not the sports editor,

(49:02):
but the executive end of the newspaper of you guys
are a joke. Here's why I did what I did.
Blank you. I quit. And Bill, standing over my shoulder,
he goes, you're not gonna send that. I go, oh,
you don't think I am. And I of course I
wish he hadn't said that, but let me, I'll give you.
I'll give it. So I went ban I hit. I went, yep,
I'm fired. And I just kind of said, I said,
I'm done for the night.

Speaker 9 (49:20):
Man.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
I locked out, went home, came back the next day.
I come in. I'm like waiting if somebody say, come
in the office, you're fired. And Bill sits quietly at
his desk. He goes, come here. We're going downstairs and
there's another former sports writer. He became the it guy,
Enis Pennington, and he said, you need to thank Enis.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I said for what. He goes, he caught it.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
He caught it, and he took it out of the system.
I went, oh, it was like one of those ones
were like, you know what, thank you for saving me
for myself. I mean, that's and you know you got
to hit people you really do in your lifetime. We
all need somebody like that at some point. We've all
hit somebody like that. I would hope and Bill was
that for me at that point in time, Like I
was done and if I'd have gotten punted, then I
I have no idea where my and I was doing

(50:01):
radio at the time, but still I don't know where
I was working. Post was two full time jobs and
two full time incomes.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And my wife was a stay home mife at that
point and stayed home mom at that point, and so
I needed a second income.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
I'm like, I'm gonna get she's gonna kill me. I'm
gonna just And Bill saved me from my sodad enus too.
God love him.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
God.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
That's great. Uh, let's take a break. When we come back,
I want to I want you to tell stories about
your favorite Bengal ever Carl Pickens.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
Yep, got a minute, Carl.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
More after this, Cincinnati's ESPN thirteen.

Speaker 12 (50:32):
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Speaker 7 (50:42):
I heard radio. Damn, it feels good to be a
car old outro okay so tight.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I really wish that thing got more of a chance.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
It's one of my five favorite movies of all time.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Off the Space is incredible.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
It's incredible. In this scene from It's one of.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
My favorite It's incredible. I wish we would have gotten
football to at least one.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
It's funny because we got through baseball season and we
had a guy for a Rents pitcher, Joe Price, who
was outstanding.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I lost love doing stuffs had him on. He did
like two weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
Joe's great. Joe moved to Florida. I didn't know that,
but Joe with Joe was great. He was terrific. Great
stories And I'm with you because football does carries the day.
I mean, especially this town. It has to carry better,
carry better. What will Oh? Yeah, Tom's former partment. Oh crap,

(51:44):
and Ron complete like he Will Chambers. He's in He's
in Dallas. He's been ready in Dallas, off and on
uh for a period of times.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I haven't heard his name in the ages. That was
that was good times. They broke up The Fan the
Fan In fact, that's where I heeartzoned. Sarah at least
got her star is the Fan girl and Rick Uchino
that's correct, he was doing sports. We had a good
cruise crew. It didn't have a sales staff, no, but
we had a crew. If we would have got a chance,

(52:11):
I think we could have stuck herround for all. So too,
that's neither here nor there. What's been your favorite beat
her job of all the things you've done.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
That's a good question. I did enjoy covering the University
of Kentucky for five years. Football and basketball didn't hurt
that it's my alma mater. But you have to cover
as a professional. You're a Kentucky football guy. I am
more of a Kentucky football guy, although I did like
Tubby's Tubby I was when Tuby Smith was the head coach,
and Tubby was a great guy to deal with, and
I'll tell you what kind of a dude he was.

(52:41):
So I would do my radio show in the morning
here and like a lot of places, you have the
press conference the day before. You have no other access.
No like you might it's a little bit different access
that you see in football, but you don't have much,
right But so it's the day before press conference. Players,
that was your access. You write your preview story, cover
the game.

Speaker 13 (52:59):
That was it.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
And I would hold you know, what every day from
here to get down, to get home, to take a
quick shower, get dressed, drive the lectioning as fast as
I could, because it was always a one o'clock press
conference that always started like one twenty.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Three and you get off the air at eleven, yes, no.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
Ten, ten, ten, but it was again, it was always
scheduled for one, and I'd always sweat that I got
to get there by one, and I get there like
twelve fifty eight. I'd roll in and one twenty three
tub would show up, And so we started making fun
of it, calling it Tubby time. And so come tournament time,
Mandy Polly, who was an assistant sports information director at
the time, I said, and she kind of was the

(53:34):
basketball UH liaison at the time. I said, Manny, if
you could ever get him to show up right on
time for his press conference, I'll buy you all the
beers were on the road in March in tournament time,
and she kind of smiled at me. I went serious,
I'm serious about this. I'll literally from the SEC tournament
to Kentucky's knocked out. I said, I owe you all drink.
It's on me if you can get it, I says,
God be By one o'clock, so serious. So I get there,

(53:57):
rolled in like twelve fifty eight, sit down, huffing and
puff and thinking. He shows up right at one o'clock
and he points right at me. He goes, you owe
her beer? And I went, well, I mean he did
that for her. Think about a coach at that time
of the year to do that for somebody in sports.
Every man thought, that's a pretty good dude.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
You and Cal didn't have the best relationship.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
I didn't. I didn't cover Cal. I wasn't I just
wasn't a Cal fan. I just didn't like the way
Cal did business. And honestly, as goofy as it sounds,
I always thought it was going to end with him
wrecking the program, and he almost did. He came close.
Now I'll give him credit for what he's done at
Arkansas and or resurrected and and do the things he's
done and put together the rosters he's putting together. Kudos

(54:35):
to him. The dude still can get it done. He
knows how to find the right guys. He sure does.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Whatever it is that he looks for, whether it's Worldwide
West or whomever else he needs to find, he finds.
But everybody thinks they've got the right guy. That's correct,
he finds the right guy.

Speaker 7 (54:50):
He does.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Uh, Carl Pickens, is that your most disliked athlete of
all time? Probably give us the Carl the zenith of
the Carl Pickens story.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Give me the Ken Griffy Junior story here at some
point too, when he got mad at Tom and I
mostly probably me from my big down but I didn't
think I was wrong at the time, but I didn't
dislike Junior. Junior was great. So this is in the
Jeff Blake hey day. Like Jeff had popped on the scene,
but he'd been around for a few weeks. And I
think Todd Jones who worked in Columbus at the end,
but he covered Zavy for a long time this podcast, Yes,

(55:21):
I believe. So Todd was the main beat guy, but
I was the backup guy. So when Todd would have
a day off, I would go down there. So my
day to go that was a I think it was
a random Thursday of a game week, and my sports
htter said, let's just finally do a big takeout on
Jeff Blake, a big feature on why Jeff Blake's effective,
what the receivers all think of him. How about we
do that. I'm like, okay, sure, it sounds simple enough.

(55:43):
And this was in a day when there was there
was not nine. It's funny the Bengals beat has grown
so exponentially. Back then, it was like both newspapers and
occasionally TV would go down to get a sound body.
But it's not as structured today like this. The Wednesday
Quarterback Coach Day and Thursday JM. R. Chase Day. This
was like you just go down to the locker room
and you go find your dudes and nobody would swarm
you and you kind of have one on ones. So

(56:04):
first guy I go to about Jeff other than Jeff
was Carl Pickens, and I did that. We all do this,
and shame on me for being I guess this. That's
probably how old was I probably thirty years old. I've
been in the business long eno I'm thirty two years old.
And I just said, Carl, you got a minute. And
he looks down at a fake watch, no watch on
his hand, just looks at R and goes fifty nine,
fifty eight, fifty seven. I said what, he goes fifty

(56:27):
six and he just kept counting. I go, you're giving
me a literal minute. He goes fifty three fifty. I go,
blank you, Carl, I said, blank you, and I walked away.
And so the other receivers was Darnay Scott, Tony McGee
was the tight end. They are just having a hoot
that I blanked Carl to his face and Carl didn't
come after me. Carl goes, oh, no, man, you got
I said, no, you know what, there are other receivers
in this room are gonna get me better quotes than you.

(56:48):
Anyway to blank with you, I'll talk to them. And
then Tony goes, you come talk to me, talk to him,
Go talk to Darnay, Go talk to Jeff Blake, And
I have a story without Carl pickens in And I'm like,
he doesn't care, but I don't care either.

Speaker 11 (56:58):
My guy.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Did Did you ever talk to him again? Probably after
a game here or there.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
I mean, he was just I mean, he turned on
Jeff Hopson at one point Jeff was working for Bengals.
He said, don't ever call my house. And he was
just a bad dude, just a honestly, as much if
you gave me top five worst Bengals of all time,
I can probably give you two Montees berfect than him.
That was about it. Yeah, most the other ones, Yeah,
you got some issues with Like pac Man would get
crazy on occasion, but pac Man at the he would

(57:30):
literally walk up to you, like two weeks ago, hug
you go. Man, I respect jud like you and he
know who I am basically. But okay, guys, sure appreciated buddy.
What's the Junior story? So this was towards the end
of Junior, after Junior gotten hurt a bunch of times
and I didn't want to see him end up like
Willie Mays. I was a kid in New York when
Willie Mays got traded to the Mets, and it was

(57:51):
a disaster when he was at the end, like he
looked a mess. He was dropping fly balls and just
couldn't Now, Junior wasn't at the Willie in his early forties.
But I'm like, I don't want to see him end
up like that. So I just thought because he's taken
such a pounding. I think this was actually after he
had the Hams major hamstring issue. I think it would
behoove him and the Reds to move him to a

(58:11):
corner outfield spot. That's literally all I said, was I
think he'd be better off and left or right than
trying to roam at the center anymore. I I just
don't think he can do it, and I don't want
to see I think, I said, I don't want to
see him end up like Willie Mays. That was probably
the worst thing I probably and somehow, I don't know
how he's heard about it, but it got misconstrued where
we were and he literally called us out by name.

(58:32):
So that that morning, I remember, I walk in Tom's
doing his hour. I actually got there on time for
a change, and I start looking some stuff up. The
interwebs were a thing at that point, not by my remember, newspapers,
dot com they were the thing. So I started looking
around and see Date Daily News has a story that
he's mad at at Uh. I said, Junior's mad at somebody,
and Tom goes, it's mad he's mad at us.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
I go for what?

Speaker 7 (58:53):
And they started reading the story of that dude, what
is your delio? And his whole thing was that I
guess we weren't down there to be accountable for saying something.
I'd be more than happy to be down there to
be accountable if I felt like I said something wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I didn't.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
I think I thought, dude, I'm just thinking it's best
for everybody that you moved to a corner outfield spot.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I didn't say to bench you trade you or career.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
For a lot of guys like centerfielders. Eventually, if they
can't cover ground anymore, they get older, you're not keeping
them in centerfield any longer. You're gonna put him to
a corner outfield spot or DHM would put him at
at first base or something. But he didn't like that.
But he was a junior.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Was great.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
I mean he he You talked a guy that had
some stories man and could really poke. You talk about
a guy that could needle people in the locker room.
That guy was amazing at it.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
My only real interaction with him, I was managing the
radio shack at ninth in Maine, Okay, and he came in.
They were putting I guess an off. He had gotten
an office down down there, and they were putting in
like a video system for him to watch tape.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
And it was like we opened at nine and it
was like nine oh two in the morning. The I'm
in the back doing paperwork and I was the manager
of radio Shack Illustrious Career. Really picked a good company there,
and uh, the the bell dings and I see him
walk in the front door and I'm like, no, I

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probably had too many beers last night, but is that Yeah.
I walked out and it was him. He came in
like seven times that day because he was the errand
boy for the it guy.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
The only other great story sports related there. I was
filling in at Carew Tower Radio Shack and we had
a line. There was thirty people in the line and
I'm just ringing them out, ringing up trash eighties, just
do do do do Do Do do do do do doo,
and uh, we had to do like the name, what's
your name? What's your address?

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
Deal?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I said, what's your name? And I hear this voice say,
you know, don't worry about that, and the voice instantly
Tony Gwinn, Oh, why the padres were in town. He
was getting video equipment to watch tape up in his room.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
So I've got a Tony gwinn story for you there.
So among the other things I did was as the
post I was back up Red's guy for a while,
backup Bengals guy for a while, did Kentig did a
bunch of different stuff, as you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Know, everything and everything, and.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
Tony Gwynn and the Podreys came to town, and my
sports iver knew how much of that was a huge
Tony Winn like I had a Tony. I don't have
a jersey of anybody other than Tony Gwynn, I literally don't.
I just fell in love with I watched him when
he was came up in eighty two, went to spring training.
Actually my wife and I were dating at the time.
We went to Phoenix for spring uh for spring break
when we were in college our senior year, and I
said about junior year and I talked to her and

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actually going to a podres As exhibition game was the
here the Podreys actually went to the World Series and
just loved everything the way Tony gwyn played the game,
and so he knew how much I liked him. And
this will tell you how things are different today. At
that point in time, sometimes when a guy would come
into town, you'd do a story on somebody on the
opposing team, He's like, I know how much you like him?
He goes once you go do some kind of just
feature on Tony gwyn what what?

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
Why?

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Why he continues to be so successful? So in the
Potter's Clubhouse don't know a soul obviously right, and I
see him. I said, hey, Tony, I'm done it. I said,
you got him in. He goes, let me go get
something to eat. He goes on, bring it back to
the locker, will talk. I said, no, if you're busy.
He goes, no, no, I'll bring it back the locker will talk.
He has a piece of fried chicken and a roll
sits down the locker and I'm thinking, I'm gonna get
like five minutes with this cat or whatever? Do we

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roll for thirty minutes? And he didn't bad a nye
like he never gave you like the glance of like dude,
I'm done, I can't do this anymore. He was so
amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
And I wrote it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
I thought a pretty good story about him, and he
actually the next day I went in the locker room
and he thanked me for it. So I tell you
what a guy he was.

Speaker 11 (01:02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I didn't talk to him long, but like he I
think when I looked up like he was like he
does have that?

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
He did rus should and say does he passed away. Unfortunately,
he did have that voice, that very distinct.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Very distinct voice, and we locked eyes and he's like, okay,
he knows, yeah, yep. And we chatted for a second
and I rung up. I think he was getting a
couple like y cables to hook up to his videos system.
Whatever it was it was he was, he was that.
That was one of the few times I've been like yep, no,
well him and right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Ryan Sandberg came to town after he had had an
injury that might have cost him the first few months
of a season, so he was just coming back and
so I was sent down to do a story on him.
He was equally as the lie like, you know, you're thinking,
this is some super and he was a super strar.
But I remember the best part of that because it
was around Derby time, so I guess he missed the
first month of the season. I remember this is it's
gotta be I don't know eighty no to take like

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ninety two ninety three, something like that. Anyway, they were
doing a Derby pool. The players one thousand dollars a
blind draw, and I just sat there going a thousand
dollars you give me, I do ten bucks? On a
blind draw. I'm not and I like Corsery. I'm not
doing thousands, but thousand that like there was nothing and
then sure enough due they only got wads of cast
thrown in this big hat for the blind draw of

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taking Derby ors. Wow, it's a different stratusphere man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Thank god.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
What's that guy's name that slapped somebody over Fantasy Baseball?

Speaker 7 (01:03:58):
Oh no, no, I know you're talking about. Oh my gosh, almighty,
I'm joining a blank I know exactly who're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Talking for the Reds. Ye, Tommy Fam Yeah, Tommy Fam Yeah.
Not him, No, not, don't don't invite him into thousand
dollars blind draw him or Matt Miller from Matt Miller
at all. Let's take another break. When we come back,
I'll ask any an important question. Are the Reds fixable?
Or is this I've got a plan. It's a crazy plan.

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I'm fascinating more after that. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
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Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Welcome back to Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. The mel Laggers Show.
Chad Brendel filling in all week and today we're talking
to a legend in Cincinnati. Sportsman. You shake your head,
but you are. You've been here so long, You've done
so many things.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
I have I have. I have worked in sports meeting
in this city for thirty six years now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
It's a long time. It's a legend.

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
So what I what I always feel like I am
was like a jack of all trades, maybe master of none.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
So you're like, like the really good utility guys.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
That's kind of what I was in high school baseball.
Like I would play different spots where the guys pitch
that day. I tell your spot that I've always felt
like that. That's my strength is you just keep moving
to the next I will raise two kids. I will
say to your point, I will say, I can't manage
a lot of people in this town have worked for
both major newspapers at one point, did a radio show,
did some TV anchored sports, did a radio show. I

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just can't they do good for you. And for those
that did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
One broadcast high school games, did one thing way better.
And many of you did good for you.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
But I I'm I'm glad because it's really because when
I went to college, I wanted to teach and coach,
and my mom said, no, I need to do something
different than that. I'm like, no, I want to teach him.
I want to coach baseball and basketball in high school
and just teach. That's what I want to do now.
So I was an accounting major for a year and
a half, believe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
God, and I can see it. I can say, jay
I did.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
I had a three five GPA. But the one course
that I finally got to was finance, and finance just
killed me and I went, I can't do this the
rest of my life. Well, my uncle was a sports
rider in town. Those that he covered he covered Oscar Robertson,
believe it or not, back in the day at UC
and the Royals. He worked at the Cincinni Timestar, which

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worked into the Post eventually, and he always kind of
tried to steer me towards that. And I'm like, you know,
I like sports, I like to write. I don't mind
doing that. I know I can talk. I used to,
like we all did. As a kid. I did all
kinds of play by play into my recorder. I was
a kind of sort of play by play voices Van
Vance who did Kentucky Colonel's Games, and I grew up
with Marty and Kay would Leadford. I mean about growing

(01:06:53):
up with listening to guys that were like dudes, Kay
would Ledford, Marty Brennan, I mean to try to emulate
those guys. You're like, I'm emulating the best when I'm
trying to do this. And so I thought midway through
my sophomore year, I'm gonna switch to journalism, and I
somehow got it done in the next two and a
half years, and off I went. I But, like I said,
that was not where I was going with the career

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path in it initially.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I mean, you know sometimes it does.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
That's no, right, that's right, I'm sure, right correct?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
And Lance, we're doing the only two radio.

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
How do I do my own?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Figure something else out real quick?

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
No, I'll be honest. One of the shows I admire
a lot, and I'm sure you listen to them some too,
even though they're out of market. Well they're in market
because they're actually syndicated at night here Kentucky Sports Radio.
I mean that that was an internet only show at
one point into their credit they morphed it into almost
an empire. To their credit. I credit anybody. I you
don't have to like their show. Credit to the show correct, correct, Yeah,
but you gotta like hustle like that. You're like, good

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for you man, you said I'm gonna do this and
you went and did it or four correct and correct,
plugging away. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
That's That's one of the things I would tell Anyboddy
Young getting into it is you better be able to
pivot well.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
And don't There's the other part I today, don't turn
anything down. Oh, you don't turn anything. Like the stuff
I did for Ted Busherman was free. I literally did
that story. I did the same stuff, but I wanted
to get experienced doing it. I had a job at
the time, so I was willing to do it for free.
Now at this point in my career in life, I'm
not doing anything for free. Primarily it has to really

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be out of the kindness of my heart. But at
those point in times, there's nothing too small, like no,
don't don't assume that I'm doing this, and just do it.
And if you think you want to do something like
this for a living there or anything for a living,
go do that for free. At some point to descermon
whether or not you can do it a B make
whatever mistakes you're gonna make, because you're gonna make them,

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and learn from those mistakes. And there's it's the old
saying in theater right, there's no small parts. There really aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I remember doing a swim meet at Scott High School
for TV and cash.

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
Sure, dude, I did a obstacle course race at the
Florence YMCA on outside they put the hall yep, they
put me in a golf cart and I went through
the guard. I would literally follow people around this obstacle course.
I get a police pistol shooting thing out of the airport.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Are you are you still going to be open to
doing high school?

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
I still. Uh. Rob Eble, who's a friend of mine,
runs ESP media. We do ESPX, so I do a
lot of Saint Xavier sports, not all of them because
it's kind of a student thing. But there's something students
don't do, aren't capable really of doing, or don't want
to do, And I fill in those kind of gaps
and then try to guide them along the way. And
that's been really rewarding because we've had a couple of
kids that have gone on some really good things out

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of that, out of that ESPX circumstance. And you know,
a lot of them like to do baseball, but they
don't really fully grasp the play by play portion of baseball.
So I do almost all the baseball games with them
as a color guy. I let them do a handful
of innings so they can kind listen to me look
at how I do things from like even getting lineups
and score sheets to and one of the kids he

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came last year and after like a couple of times
he just kind of showing up going got the lineup.
He would then see what I did, and he put
his little lineup card together, go get the lineup, come
back and started getting a little bit better and better
at play by play. And that's always rewarding to see that.
It really is. I enjoy seeing that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
It's a it's it's a I missed doing some of
the high school stuff. I don't miss doing all of it,
but I do miss like Friday nights. I love Friday, Yeah,
getting out and doing Northern Kentucky high school football games.
Some of the funnest stuff I ever did, Skinny was
the old Ryles Sports Fest.

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
Oh yeah, I did. I did that a few times
to myself. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Brian Brom played in that Warren Central, who I contend
was the best high school team I've ever seen out
of Indianapolis beat out.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
And that's the one great part about around here. I mean,
whether you're in Cincinnati, I've covered sports on both sides
of the rear. I mean, honestly's how I got to
learn a lot of Cincinnati. Like I'm going out to
you know, Batavia one day, right the little Batavia was
until I found Batavia way back then. But to cover
sports on both sides of the river, I mean that
that gives you a great base. It really does. Like
you've got that now. Okay, now I'm morph into maybe

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pro or college and eventually morph into that. I'm so
glad I got to do all that stuff because I
made a lot of friendships over the years to doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
What's next? What do you think it is next? Do
you not know what's next to you?

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
I don't you know? Like you said, I study. We're
right around the corner from fall sports season starting for
high school, so I'm gonna broadcast some of that. I
coached high school basketball Beachwood High School, in fact, today
was one of our kids camp days, and then we're
gonna have an open gym here at six o'clock tonight,
so I'll leave to go do that. And eventually I'd
like to be a head coach of a program. And
I've seen how much time guys have to put into running.

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Like now I'm the JV head coach and an assistant
varsity coach. I just got to coach basketball. I gotta
do nothing else. I like to help run some things.
But I see how hard our head coach works at
all the other ancillary stuff of equipment purchasing and you know,
jass and gym time and all of incite for gym time.
Long as a good coach coach at beachwe he's done

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great things. But yes, to some degree, there's that because
we we have two gyms, but one of our gyms
now because they're reconstructing rooms, all this stuff is in
there for the summertime, so we don't have a second
gym for for our camp. But so I do want
to do that eventually. I'm probably running out of time
close to that, but maybe not. Maybe somebody looks and goes, yeah,
you don't look as old as you are. Maybe I do.
Maybe I look older, Maybe they need a guy who's older.

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I don't know, but I still I love doing that
and I love devoting a lot of time to that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
You're there. You're the media guy, though, so you know
you can get him some some some airtime, rustle up
some feather. You know, Tom Gamble.

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
I do know Tom gam I do PA events for
him and he's Uh. I've got a couple people that
reach out to me about doing freelance stuff. So yeah,
I'll be busy. Trust me, I'm not one of the listen.
I've seen this happen with people like they retire, Like
when Joe Paturna retired, he died almost instantaneously.

Speaker 13 (01:12:55):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
It feels like sometimes when you retire and you just go,
you just that's probably not a good way to be.
I I like being busy, but I also like not
having something hang over my head. Like I know, for
what you do, the recruiting season hangs over your head.
Then the sort of does it hangs over your head?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Does?

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
It's great to be busy and have all those things,
that's how you're in your living. But you're like, okay,
I've got this week before the next thing starts, but
you know what's coming. The next week's about to come.
Like before last Wednesday, I literally was thinking, gosh, three
weeks from now, training camp starts, and I know it's it.
I don't dig ditches for a living, I get that,
but training camp just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I don't have to go to higher ground anymore. I
know that that's a that's a win for you. That's
a lot of it's a lot of driving.

Speaker 13 (01:13:42):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I I just want to say thank you for coming
in one and I appreciate it over the years, and
it took you know, you've.

Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
Been the buffer between me and the UC fans who
hate me, and and they rightfully do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I mean, you did say at firing Rick Mentor would
be the end of the program.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
I did say close to it wasn't specifically that, but
I say I think that what I says, you're not
going to be able to hire a head coach better
than Rick Minter. And maybe what I should have said
was you're not gonna be able to hire a head
coach better than Rick Minner that you can hang on
to for a long period of time, because that would
have been accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
That would But what I said at the time and
what I said was completely an accurate because they did
pretty well with a lot of hires after that. I
mean it didn't it didn't go too bad.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
But I will say the year that they went to
the BCS, I said, all they have to do is
beat Notre Dame, and I swear they're going to and
nobody wanted to believe that. Like they had to run
the table when you but beat Notre Dame man and
do the rest. And I thought they could do it.
And so I'm not always a UC. I I wrote
it hard for that team because I really liked that
team a watch and I was glad that they ended

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up doing what they did because they deserve to be
where they went that year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Well, thank you for being a friend, Thank you being
a mentor. I know this is says retirement. I don't
think you can stop. I probably can't.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
I probably can't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
So next time I retire, I'll stop for now. Okay,
that's gonna rap, that's gonna wrap up the hour. Thanks
again to Richard Skinner. He is a legend, even if
he doesn't want to admit it. Since that easy ESPN
eighteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Here we go our number three Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty
Chad Brenda and Fromo Eggar again special thanks to Richard
Skinner spending an hour with us. That was awesome. Thank

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you for choosing me. And again, like one of the
reasons I hold Skinny in such high regard is this
is a business with a lot of ego. You kind
of have to be. It's not a bad thing. That's
the nature of media and getting into media, you're looking

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out for. Number One, Skinny is one of the few
guys that was always willing to help the younger guys
trying to to break into the field and never really
let like again and it's you can spot the guys
that that have kind of that thing that that helps

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you figure out your path. And he is. He has
been awesome for myself. I know Rick Brewing would would
give the same sentiment. You know, as guys that Skinny
has helped along the way and thanks to him a
lot of great stories. I you know George Vogel, who
has also been a great mentor of mine, another with

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with a ton of great stories about covering sports in
this city. And George was over forty years. Skinny's at
thirty six, a wealth of knowledge, and I have a
feeling we have not heard the last of Skinny. He'll
find something, because I just don't think he can sit

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on the couch and call it a call it a career.
But that was that was awesome stuff. Thanks to Skinny
for coming in and giving us an hour of his
time in between uh basketball camp. He'll be He'll be
right back at it at Beechwood tonight at six o'clock,
stomping his foot and making people run. I forgot to

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ask him about one of my favorite things, Treen. You
know what he used to do when his daughter would
act up, the youngest daughter. He made her run steps
in the house, like the steps from you know, the
the downstairs to the upstairs. She'd have to do stairs

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when she was bad. That's outstanding. I don't know why
I never incorporated that with Kelsey, probably because she just
wouldn't have done it. She just said no and gone
to her room and slammed the door. All right, you
got twenty stairs, twenty updowns. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Classic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Spain takes down in Bope and France to nil. Spain
is on to the World Cup. Finals over the weekend.
So Spain's fascinating because if you look, the story of
this World Cup has been the megastars has been Imbope,

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Harry Kane at England and obviously Messy and Holland for Norway,
and you know, the biggest stars were the story of
this World Cup all the way to today. Spain was
not to take a shot at Spain. They were the
number one team in the world coming in to the tournament.

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But I think everybody looked at the way France had
played and felt that France was the favorite, and Spain's
defense choked them out essentially, didn't. I mean, I wasn't
able to, you know, spend the entire ninety minutes analyzing

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the game, but boy, you just did not see France
on offense a whole lot. It was Spain controlling the ball,
controlling the action, and they are now one step away
from being World Cup champs. Tomorrow as we sit here
doing this show, we'll get Messi and Argentina against Harry

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Kane and England. That one's gonna do big numbers, big numbers.
So fascinated by that and to see who is going
to move on to the finals to take on the
Spanish national team. Haven't taken any phone calls today. Not

(01:20:14):
supposed to do phone calls an hour or in the
first segment of an hour, but I don't care. We're
going to talk to Mike. Mike, how's it going.

Speaker 9 (01:20:22):
Hey? Thanks nice reminiscences with you and Richard. Listen. I
remember Richard from back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
He's been around a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:20:31):
When my dad passed. Yeah, when my dad passed away
years ago, I was able to come home and help
my mom for about a year to get acclimated to that,
and so I wasn't doing anything, and I thought, well,
I got to do something. I was listening to Sports
Tuck and that's when they had Bob Yep and Tim
Lewis and Mark Amazon and Sturgeon the Fish Yep. It

(01:20:55):
was fun and I used to answer the phones once
in a while for Lamp since mostly for Tim Lewis
just went in did bone screening, just didn't you know,
get it for free, just volunteering. Had a blast. So
I remember meeting Richard. What was his partner's named, Tom,
Tom Gamble? Tom Gamble, Yeah, you know what, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
What, Chief, I don't know. I can't do this anymore.
I got too many jobs. Chief got too many jobs.
I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:21:25):
Well, and then you mentioned Bob Hope, and so I
didn't catch why you did, but you mentioned Bob Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
So I was I was very really young, probably nine
ten years old. My family every year would go on
a Labor Day vacation and we'd stay at a hotel
and it was it was in honor of my late aunt,
who passed away in a car accident on Memorial Day
back in nineteen eighty two. And then that Labor Day

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we started this family tradition of everybody getting together and
having you know, like a mini kind of family reunion.
Everybody just hung around the pool and had some drinks,
and you know, it was kind of in honor of
my aunt. So we were at a hotel in Paduca,
Kentucky that had like a like a you know, like

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a conference center attached to the hotel. And that night
that we were staying there over Labor Day weekend, Bob
Hope was performing and I was running around the back hallways.
You know, we're nine ten years old, we're kids, Me
and my cousins running around playing and there's this guy
banging at a door to be let in because he

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didn't have his key to get in the door. And
it was Bob Hope, and so I let Bob Hope in,
and then I got a napkin and a sharpie and
I got an autograph on a napkin from Bob Hope
when I was like ten years old. It's one of
the only autographs I've ever gotten. I've never been a
big autograph guy, but I figured probably not going to

(01:22:59):
get minich answers to get Bob Hope's autographs. So that
was my run in with Bob Hope.

Speaker 9 (01:23:03):
Bob Hope, that's big time, one of the most big
time stars in the Hollywood ever in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
The history of the world. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
Mean he used to I got the meeting once when
they were doing a US when.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
He used to do all those.

Speaker 9 (01:23:22):
Come over to Vietnam, and it was something that everybody
looked forward to. Every single guy that could and girl
that could be there were there, and that real quick.
He had Montgomery Ribs sent to his wherever he was
around the world for long time. He loved Montgomery rib
Do you remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I remember hearing the story.

Speaker 9 (01:23:41):
Yeah, yeah, So anyway, we got to meet him. He
was there with Anne Margaret, and there was an old
time comedian named Jerry Colowna who had a big dark
handlebar mustache and John Wayne and uh, we just stood
in line, and finally he spent like two hours doing
autograph for the fellow, so that he's one of my

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favorite guys in the world. But the story I really
wanted to tell you was in Saratown. We'll appreciate this
because he liked boxing. Was after we got done with
the evacuation of Vietnam and seventy five. We were some
of us were kind of ganged up, so we had
to spend some downtime in the hospital there in the Philippines,

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and they were getting ready to have the thriller in
mana Frasier in r and the ringside seats were four
hundred bucks, that's all they were. And we hadn't had
any place to spend our money, not that we weren't,
not that we were making money. So five of us
jumped in a cab and went to Manoa and got
ringside seats for the Frasier Ali Thriller. It was awesome.

(01:24:52):
It was so hot hit It's always hot there always.
I don't care when you go. But you could sit
there and you sweat, especially Caucasians sweat a lot, and
the Filipinos don't sweat at all. It's crazy. And but
for those two guys to go fourteen rounds in that
kind of heat, and finally Eddie Futch Doe Fraser's corner

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did what they call a corner retirement I found out
later and stopped the fight so they wouldn't have to
come out in the fifteenth. But what any he's my
all timer. Yeah he should be up on the Mount Rushmore.
But well, you think of that teren.

Speaker 10 (01:25:34):
Man Penton. I watched that millions of times. I love
that fight, one of my favorite fights of all.

Speaker 9 (01:25:40):
You know what the prize money was. It was only
nine million dollars for Lee and Fraser got fir not
a five million. Can you imagine what that would have
been in today's dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
It would have been one hundred thousand dollars for front receipts.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
That's why Floyd and Tyson are trying to retatch it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:56):
Right, how much you figured it would have been had
the prize money for them guys and today today, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Mean each of the winner would have got at least
seventy five one hundred million, right, Teren you know that
better than me, but easily.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
You think Karen, Oh for sure, especially with darn Kan.

Speaker 9 (01:26:18):
It was just incredible that they got that long into
the fight because of that funking heat. I still to
this day don't know. You talk about being in shape,
that's that's the most unbelievable in shape I've seen, or
other than maybe seals maybe or something. But I just
wanted to share that story with you. Guys. There wasn't baseball,
and I thought you might get a kick out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Thanks you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
What'd you think of the home run derby last night?

Speaker 9 (01:26:42):
I know at all. They came in and gave me
a shot of morphine and I went in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Yeah, that's if you're gonna fall asleep, that's probably a
good reason why.

Speaker 13 (01:26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:26:53):
It was a pleasant and I'd wake up for a
second and one ey'd come open and I'd go, oh,
who is that? And I knew I ended up seeing
the end with Walker and all that, so that was
pretty cool ending It was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
It was you know, that's that's all the pressure in
the world. Like, you get one out, you're done.

Speaker 9 (01:27:11):
Yeah, yes, talk about pressure, and are you gonna watch tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Uh, I'll have it on. I don't know how you know,
fully dialed in. I'll be we We've got a couple
of shows on Bearcat Journal on Tuesday nights, and I'm
gonna I think I'm gonna run from here and and
go catch a little of the uh the Bearcats basketball
practice and you know, so I'm gonna be bouncing around,
but uh yeah, I'll probably catch at least some of

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it because I have to be in here tomorrow Mike
to talk about it.

Speaker 9 (01:27:43):
Yeah. No, I love you being in this week. I
think it's great. I'm enjoying the hell out of it.
And uh yeah, well you deserve the Chad. You and
Tarn especially are a good little duo there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
We'll see if you feel the same by Friday, when
I've completely run out of things to talk about.

Speaker 9 (01:28:01):
Bummed out when you said the Beast was closed today
because I was looking forward to Terren's reaction to the
shell you were gonna bring so anyway, some other time, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Guess Yeah, I mean, Tarren, are you gonna No Terren's
here tomorrow, He's gone Thursday and Friday, Tarran, are you
going with the like the the the fancy burger. Are
you just going with like a standard burger.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
I'm probably going with a standard I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Think I'm gonna try the fancy one, Mike, for you,
but I can't do the onions. I have a I
have an issue with onions. They make me sick, so
I won't be able to do the caramelized onions.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
Well go hold it for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Hold yeah, But I'm gonna do the au puav sauce
and the Mornee. I love a good Mornee cheese sauce.
It's one of my specialties when I'm cooking. So yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna do We're gonna do the Sacred
Beast tomorrow, Mike.

Speaker 9 (01:28:57):
That's why you corrected me yesterday. You did because I
had it mixed up with the dijon and the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
The is what comes on the regular burger, and that's
what That's what Terran's gonna get tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:29:09):
And it's awesome, Terran. But if you wanted to go
to Chicken, ask Jeff Ruby. He thought it was awesome. Anyway,
I gotta go. You gotta go, and thank you for
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Appreciate you, Mike. Have a good one.

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
Talk to you.

Speaker 9 (01:29:20):
Tomorrow thanks to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Let's take a break. We'll talk to Dick and Dayton
when we come back. Since that he's ESPN fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Thirty, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic.

Speaker 14 (01:29:34):
From the UC Health true stuff that I had to
be in confidence soon. I gotta get drunk before the
day be kids, before my mother starts about my friends
about to go and damn near.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
With black aggressive aggressive for a Tuesday afternoon on the
side of my hip ran I just saw come across
my feed can Lucky, you got a defensive back commitment
just now? Uh huh?

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
His nickname seat belt.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
You're locked up, strapped in, can't get out, Miguel seat Belt.
Wilson just committed to Kentucky for football.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Better be a foster with a nickname like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
I mean, that's a nickname. He's a three star.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Oh come on, I mean, granted's what was sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Sauce was a like mid like not a not an
elite three star by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
I'll keep my own key out for the seat belt.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
It's a it's a pretty dope nickname for a defensive back.
Very rarely. I've been doing this long enough now, very
rarely do you have one run across that I've never
seen before that you get immediately. Usually they've been thought
of by now. But seat belt, seat belts a new one.

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Let's go to Dick in Dayton. Dick, how you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:31:16):
Hey? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Chad?

Speaker 11 (01:31:17):
Well, you're doing a great job this week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Thank you, sir, much appreciated.

Speaker 11 (01:31:22):
Yeah, hey, I'll ask you and Tarror something.

Speaker 13 (01:31:25):
Okay, we're not where we should be. I thought when
we started the Red season and they're down in the bottom,
and I'm telling you, Terrorn, I'm telling you Ched.

Speaker 11 (01:31:39):
I think if it doesn't if we do bad or
I think there's head should roll. But I think that
the second half of the season they can't play like this, Chad,
or they're going to lose fans and they're going to
lose the respect for being the Reds, don't you think.

Speaker 13 (01:31:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
I think the problem right the biggest problem right now, Dick,
is that nobody has any faith in this front office. Yeah,
nobody has. And I don't think it's the players as
much as it is what's going on behind the scenes.
I just don't think anybody looks at this and believes

(01:32:16):
that the Castellini's as ownership and Nick Crawl as the
president of baseball operations have what it takes to get
them from where they are to where the fan base
wants them to be. And that's the thing.

Speaker 9 (01:32:31):
I'll ask you this question.

Speaker 11 (01:32:32):
Are they going to do better the second half or
worse you think?

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I mean, you know, Tony brought up a great point
today during quick Hits when we were talking. Chase Burns
is going to be on a pitch like an innings restriction.
He's not going to finish the year. And they've won
almost eighty percent of the games that Chase Burns starts.
They've won under forty percent of the games that he
doesn't start. I don't I know, I don't have a

(01:32:58):
lot of faith in them getting this thing even slightly righted, Dick.

Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
No, noo. But I do know one thing I think,
as I told you before, you and Terror and that
I think I've telled the four two people I think
the Bengals might have. But you think they can be
pretty good this year, maybe win eight seven, eight games
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
They better win a lot more than seven or eight games, Dick.
They've missed the playoffs three years in a row. Seven
or eight games ain't getting you into the playoffs. This
better be a double digit win team or I don't
think Zach Taylor survives. I don't think Duke Tobin survived.
Maybe Duke bought himself a year this year with all

(01:33:43):
the activity and the front office kind of pushing the
chips in as far as maybe they ever have. So
maybe this bought Duke an extra year. If this isn't
a playoff team, I don't know how Zach is back
next year.

Speaker 11 (01:33:57):
I don't either. They've got to protect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Burrows always, and luckily the line looked good the second
half of last year. They need to carry that over.
There's still some questions that left tackle with the Orlando Brown,
He's getting up there in age. He's got to have
a little bit of a bounce back year. But I think,
you know, with with fair Child and Memes, they've got

(01:34:21):
two kind of cornerstones on that offensive line for young guys.
But yeah, Joe Joe getting hit is not how it's
not going to work for this group. Like they have
got to get him through seventeen games.

Speaker 11 (01:34:38):
Hey, I wanted to tell you it was about four
months ago or so. Some of my birthday Dave and
I got to see your iHeart radio there. That is
a beautiful building jet.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
I didn't have anything to do with it. They did
not consult me in any way, shape or form, but
it is nice.

Speaker 9 (01:34:59):
I got the do We said that the.

Speaker 11 (01:35:01):
Lands and there was Tony in there and that was
glad to meet it. Well, he was doing something with
that man. But if Dave and I get a chance,
he said he'd like to meet you sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Absolutely, Yeah, we'll.

Speaker 11 (01:35:15):
Have a good date.

Speaker 7 (01:35:16):
Thanks Dick, appreciate your call.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Okay, bye bye, There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Dick in Dayton. Look, it's put up or shut up
time for a lot of people in this city because
there hasn't been enough success in this city of late.
You had what the Super Bowl run, you had Luke
Fickle make it to the college football playoff? What the
Reds backed into the playoffs last year? They backed into

(01:35:44):
the playoff the COVID year, you know, just just barely
over five hundred in getting in in the shortened season.
There hasn't been enough winning in Cincinnati of late, and
when there's not enough winning, people lose jobs. Wes Miller
was just let go at UC basketball. Scott Saderfield's gotta win,

(01:36:05):
Zach Taylor's got to win. I don't think Tito Francona
is in danger of being fired.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
I think he's just in dage of going back to retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Exactly what I was gonna say. That was the next
sentence out of my mouth. If this thing looks like
it it looks right now when we get to the
end of this season, where there's not a lot of
hope on the major league roster, and there's even less
hope when you look at what's coming up through the miners,
why would Terry Francona put himself through this again? It's

(01:36:38):
it's a grind, one hundred and sixty two game baseball season,
a grind to get through one hundred and sixty two games.
Why why would why would Tito do this again? If
he doesn't think and maybe he does, maybe I I

(01:36:59):
I'm reading this wrong, But if you're him, I don't
know how you can look at this right now and
go we're not far off. They had to have everything,
and it wasn't like the Reds closed out the season
just scorching hot and then they won eighteen of their

(01:37:21):
last twenty three games or whatever to get into the
playoffs and you know, came from out. No, the Mets
absolutely disintegrated, They absolutely melted apart, and that allowed the
Reds to sneak in. It wasn't something the Reds played okay,
but they were just barely over five hundred down the

(01:37:44):
home stretch. They hovered right at five hundred the entire season.
Win two lose, two, win three lose two win one lose.
You know, that's who they were all year.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
It wasn't like they went into uh September and just
got hot and and all of a sudden, everybody's like,
oh man, this this young Reds team. Boy, they got it.
It's now what happened? If I was tet, I'd be like, nah, man,
I look, the money was nice. I appreciate the uh opportunity,

(01:38:25):
but I think I'm going to go hang out on
the couch. Maybe get me a TV job. It worked
for Netflix calling the home run Derby. They need some
help there. Whatever it may be. Like, it didn't work
and it hasn't worked, and I wouldn't be shocked, but
but maybe you keep him by, you know, doing what

(01:38:50):
you got to do to the entire front office again.
I don't think it's enough. Like I know everybody, Nick
Krawl is where the the IYRE is located right now,
there's nothing about that entire front office that's good enough. Nothing,
And if it's not gutted, it just tells me expect

(01:39:12):
more of the same. Yeah, Gross, I still have three
more days to do this, Terren.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Sorry, I won't be here all three days.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
I think you think like I'm just gonna let Drew
talk Thursday and Friday. I think you'll have gotten three
days out of me at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Is any golf tournaments this weekend? I don't know when Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Yeah, we'll have him handicap whatever golf tournament is this weekend,
like in depth, super in depth. Maybe we'll we'll have
him give us a Dayton Flyers breakdown too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Here's thoughts on the event going up on up in Mason.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Yeah, we'll come up with something. All right, let's take
a break. Final segment of the day coming up. Phone
lines are open five, one, three, seven, fifteen thirty. Uh
if you want to talk. If not, I'll come up
with something. We'll get us through to the end of
the day somehow, Someway Chad Brendle mo Eggers Show Cincinnati's

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ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic fromly you see health traffic, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Rolling right along, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Chad Brendle Yo
cruising along this week to the same sounds a DJ Quick,
But I don't really.

Speaker 7 (01:41:02):
Care to blame it on the loco grips in a house.

Speaker 11 (01:41:07):
It true.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
I know I've asked you the top three most recognizable,
like voice beat, combo beast for sure. Like when you
hear DJ Quick, you instantly know it's DJ Quick without
much effort for sure. Forty Yeah, too short, Snoop Yeah,

(01:41:31):
but Snoop's had a lot of different sat like a
lot of different producers. I still think your Snoop is
definitely in the It just feels like when you hear
a too short song, you instantly know it's too short.
Snoop's probably in the same category. I think the top
two E forty and DJ Quick, like they mastered this

(01:41:55):
is what I sound like, no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Too short just depends on what generation, because if you're
a lot younger, you might Because he spent a lot
of time in Atlanta in the latest part of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
Yeah, I think it's more of the Oakland stuff, like
he had a you know, through the the late eighties,
early nineties into the early two thousands, short had a
very distinct and then he got into some of the crunk,
like the Atlanta stuff like blow the Whistles kind of
more crunk, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Yes, that's probably his biggest record.

Speaker 10 (01:42:31):
But that's that's whom being in Atlanta, I said, people
probably don't even know he's young.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
People probably wouldn't know he's from the West coast. Really, Yeah,
it's true slick Rick. You knows slick Rick as soon
as you hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Yes, yeah, yeah, hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Tribe, I guess because of the jazz vibe, Like they's
not a whole lot of others that did that. Look,
I warned you guys yesterday. We're just trying to get
the Friday, which the six o'clock Friday is all we're
trying to do. Whatever we talk about is just a

(01:43:17):
means to an ends to find our way to six
o'clock Friday. I guess I'm gonna talk about this a
little today. We'll get wide receivers tomorrow, so I'm just
kind of gonna introduce this today, it'll probably be more
of a main topic in tomorrow's show. We spent a

(01:43:40):
lot of time yesterday on the quarterback rankings and Joe
Burrow coming in fourth. There have been you know, that
was the talk all day yesterday on the sports talk
circuit was these quarterback rankings. A lot of talk about
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Knew what they were doing with that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
They do it every year, like this is like it
and it definitely wasn't an accident.

Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
I asked yesterday, like why would you release Like why
wouldn't quarterbacks be first or last? You release quarterbacks in
the middle. You know why quarterbacks were in the middle
because they were released on the Monday of All Star Week.
There's nothing going on. Everybody needs something to talk about.
Everybody wants to talk about quarterbacks. So no matter what

(01:44:30):
the schedule was on these things being released. Quarterbacks were
being released yesterday and there was a lot of fair conversation.
I think on Joe Burrow, I think in some ways
he's fortunate to be at four, not because of his quarterbacking,

(01:44:50):
but because he's played. He's been in the NFL six years,
He's missed a significant part of three seasons. It's why Lamar,
Jacks and I would assume is at five, right, Tarren.
Both of these guys have dealt with this a lot
in their career.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
No, I think it's another narrative with Lamore.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Yeah, but I mean if he stays healthy, he blows
that narrative out of the water. Like when he's been healthy,
he's been as electric as anybody that's ever played the position.

Speaker 10 (01:45:29):
True, but let I goo. I was arguing with one
of other fellow producers earlier. He quote unquote can't win
the big one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Yeah, but Josh Allen can't win the big one either.
That's what I told him that And Josh Allen's number one.
Why aren't we harder on Josh Allen? In part? Though
Arran part of the reason we're not harder on Josh Allen,
or they're not in this particular exercises. He has been durable,

(01:45:57):
he has been healthy, He's been out there seventeen games
a year. It matters. If Joe Burrow gets hurt again
this year, he'll drop like a rock in these rankings.
I guarantee you that people are holding him there right

(01:46:19):
now because they don't want to look foolish if this
is the year that he's healthy and all of a sudden,
the Bengals are one of the story, big stories in
the AC.

Speaker 10 (01:46:33):
So Lamar voted by his peers, I think was like
sixty ninth in the top one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
What about players every year? What do you think Burrow
ends up? Roughly?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Probably thirties and I guess thirties.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
We'll find out here by then of the week. What
do you think I'm gonna go twenties. They're gonna keep people,
gonna keep keep them to just because he finished the
season last year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Yeah, but he got hurt for a while. He did
come back. Credit to him for that, because it would
have been very easy, given the position that the Bengals
were in, for him to just bag it and say, ah,
we'll worry about it next time. I don't know, I

(01:47:25):
just but anyhow, the other positions, the other positions will
get Jamar Chase tomorrow and he's gonna be very high
one or two. He's gonna be up there. I think
we'll get Brian Cook on Thursday in this when the
safety's released and that's the end. Do the Bengals have
enough high end talent or is it a matter of

(01:47:48):
they have raised their floor, they didn't change a lot
of the ceiling. It's gonna be super interesting to see
how that plays out. We made a Terran. We made
it to six o'clock. Was there ever, Adell Nah, you

(01:48:10):
knew we'd get there. We always make it one more
day with Terran Tomorrow, Sacred Beast, Tomorrow Ran. We'll see
you guys next time. This is the Moegger Show. I'm
Chad Rendell, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty, sing about drawing throw.

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Speaker 11 (01:48:49):
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