7/3/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show

The Reds avoid disaster. Can they take advantage of health? Are the Bengals in a battle that's not worth fighting? And will anyone ever successfully explain the allure of competitive eating to Mo? All this and much more on this 4th of July Eve!

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won three consecutive games. They've gotten their season back on track.
Of Vander has been awesome. Speaking of awesome, last night's
Red's victory in Boston was awesome. A thrilling come from

(01:22):
behind win. Let's go ahead and play the highlight, maybe
the biggest hit of the season. Trailing by three cees
last night, did this two two swinging in This ball
is crushed by baby, very deep and long gone out
of Pinway Park.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Cover of the Monster and left center.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
The first career Grand Slam for Christian in carnassion Strand
has given the Reds a four to three lead at Finway.
Tommy Thraw with analysis provided by Jeff Brantley on the
Reds Radio Network seven hundred WLWA Grand Slam in the
top of the seventh inning. You heard the description, Chances

(02:06):
are you've seen it. Ces cleared the Green Monster hit
the ball clear at a Fenway Park part of a
five run seventh and help the Reds battle back from
a three to nothing deficit. They would go on to
win eight to four. Last night, they effectively salvage a
split in the double header. You'll hear ces in just
a second. I put this on social media right after

(02:28):
the game. You could follow me at moeger on Twitter
and Instagram. I put this on Twitter last night. Mathematically,
every victory counts as the same. Whether you win one nothing,
ten nothing, ten to nine twelve zip, doesn't matter, whether
you come from behind, play from ahead and stay there.

(02:49):
It doesn't matter whether you beat the Pirates, whether you
beat the Phillies, whether you beat the Sacramento A's or
the New York Yankees. Mathematically, every win counts as the same.
But there are certain victories, and if you're a baseball fan,
I think you understand there are certain victories that just
feel like they count for just a little bit more.

(03:11):
Maybe the Reds have had other games like that. Perhaps
the game last Tuesday against the Yankees, the walkoff win
at home and Chase Burns debut, Maybe that was one
of those games. I think last night was one of
those games. Sometimes, you know, a baseball team, it just
it has to do what a pilot has to do
at the very least avoid disaster.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
So you know, we make a big deal about the
fact that the Reds haven't been swept this year. That
is not insignificance because if you're if you don't get swept,
you're not gonna go in these you know, five, six, seven, eight,
nine game losing streaks. Yesterday last night, first of all,
they they have the rain shortened game that gets resumed yesterday.
They blow that one. They don't play that great, they're

(03:51):
sloppy in the field. Uh, they lose that one for
the better part of six innings. Last night. I'll be honest, man,
when it was three to nothing after the home run
from a Brayew that re signs, I thought he was
gonna catch, even though he takes like the weirdest angles
to the ball, it's three to nothing. It it felt

(04:11):
like more than three nothing. And so I'm watching going, Man,
the air is about to come out of the balloon.
All this work you have done to jump into the race,
winning all these series, you're about to undo a lot
of it. The air is about to come out of
the balloon because you're gonna get swept by an okay
Red Sox team. And now this weekend you gotta go

(04:33):
play a good Phillies team in their ballpark. So like
the Rads have gotten above five hundred, and I'm going, okay,
So it's gonna be forty four and forty three going
to Philly. They're gonna come home maybe for that last
Homestand by the way, the Marlins are playing really well
right now. They're gonna come home under five hundred maybe.

(04:54):
And so it's we're going to the seventh inning last night,
they've already lost one game. They're on the verg of
maybe getting swept and the airs coming out of the balloon,
and it feels like at least some of the work
that they had done to get into contention to get
over five hundred is about to be undone during three
days in Boston, and then they string together a rally.

(05:15):
Cees hits the Grand Slam. It wasn't just that they
played add on baseball. They played add on baseball in
that inning, getting one more run. They rally, they add on,
They get the great play for Matt McClain. Right when
it felt like Boston was about to tie the score.
They add on some more. They score eight runs without
a bunt. How about that, eight runs without a bunt,

(05:39):
and they salvage the series. They salvage the last game
of the series, they lose the series, which that's gonna happen.
You can't have losing streaks. You're not gonna have long
losing streaks as long as you're not getting swept. Last
night felt like more than just a victory. At the
very least, it was avoiding disaster.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I remember yesterday, for I was talking about the twenty
ten team, maybe because the world as Chapman pitched and
got to save in the first game yesterday. But I've
been thinking a lot about the twenty ten team. Number one,
it's fifteen years ago, forever ago.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Number two.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I think most of us went into this these this
season thinking the Reds could contend and could compete, And
we'll see if that continues to be true as the
next three months unfold. But like that twenty ten team,
I don't know, man was like the first time I
got a chance to do a show it on an
everyday basis with the Reds in contention, the Reds mattering
and the Reds being a playoff hopeful, and they they

(06:39):
didn't totally come from out of left field, but they
sort of did. Are their parallels between this year's team
and that team, I don't know. Maybe we could explore that,
But one of the signature games of that season was
a game against the San Francisco Giants where they blew
a huge lead and they were on the verge of
getting swept in August, and they ended up winning. Joey

(06:59):
Vado got a huge hit, and there was this huge
sigh of relief. They avoided disaster, right, they didn't get swept.
Sometimes that's good enough. Sometimes really good teams have to
be good at that man avoid disaster. The Reds last
night were good at avoiding disaster. This guy is a
major reason why Christian and Kronasi on stream, who let's
face it wasn't even in the original starting lineup last night,

(07:22):
has frankly since that first series when he came back
against the Diamondbacks and maybe with the exception of the
big hit he had against the Yankees in that game
last Tuesday, offensively just hasn't done much of anything. Had
one of the hits of the year last night, that
grand slam homer in the seventh inning that cleared the
Green Monster. He talked afterward with Jim Day and the
FanDuel Sports Network.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Players dream of not only playing in this ballpark, they
dream of hitting one over the Green Monster. What was
it like hitting one out of the stadium?

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Oh Man It's an unreal feeling. This ballpark, it's electric.
I'm happy I got to play here.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
First Grand Slam of your career. When you're rounding the base,
is what's going through your mind?

Speaker 8 (08:07):
Honestly, I didn't even know that. I just playing ball,
happy to put the boys back on top.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
How important do you think it was that you've got
a lot of looks at the four seam fastball in
that of bat.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
I believe it was the fifth.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
Fastball that you saw that you hit out.

Speaker 9 (08:23):
How important was.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
It to get a look at it?

Speaker 8 (08:25):
I mean, I think it's always important to see pitches.
Ironically enough, I don't see that many, but when I do,
I think good things happen.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
You've gone through a stretched numbers, probably not where you
want them to be.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Do you have a process to fight through that? Like
you have?

Speaker 8 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean it is a process. It's not result
oriented because if you chase results it gets ugly. Click.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
How important was it for this team to get out
of here with at least a win?

Speaker 10 (08:54):
Well?

Speaker 8 (08:54):
I think anyonin's good. Anyone's good for the boys, and
it's good to carry it over.

Speaker 9 (08:58):
Appreciate your time that was to watch.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Thank you all right? Thank you to Fandels Sports Network.
We stole that Jim Day Christian and Strand. Reds badly needed,
badly needed that win yesterday. Look you could say, well, look,
a three game sweep is no big deal. A three
game loosening streak is no big deal. Yeah, that's all
well and good. They're playing with a very small margin
for aaron right now. They're trying to chase down a
bunch of different teams, are in a very tight race

(09:22):
for a wildcard spot. Every win matters. You could not
have afforded to go to Philadelphia having lost three consecutive games,
where it's gonna be tough going this weekend against the Phillies.
Sometimes you got to avoid disaster. Last night, the Reds
did that. There was more to that game last night
than just Christian and Carnasi on Strand. That was the
play that Matt McClay made, which we're going to talk
about a little bit later on the rads are. You know,

(09:45):
we've talked about health a lot here, man, and it
factors into the conversation about the trade deadline and what
the Reds may or may not do. There's a good
piece today in the inquire about that exact topic what
the Reds plan may be, and they they're still formulating it.
You can understand why. There's still a lot of ball
that's going to be played between now in July thirty first,
So the players on the field are going to have

(10:06):
a lot more to do with what the Reds do
with the deadline, or maybe what the Reds don't do
with the deadline, than anything else. But Noel ve Marte,
who had a Grand Slam last night, it looks like
there's a very strong likelihood he joins the team tomorrow.
I guess the immortal Ryan Volaide will be the odd
man out. We'll see, But Noel ve Marte comes back,
And yes, Jake Freeley is still on the injured list,

(10:27):
but Austin Hayes is back. Like they're pretty much going
to be starting tomorrow as healthy as they have been
in quite a while. In fact, so much so that
somebody may be squeezed out. It couldn't be Christian and
Karnasi on Strand. I don't know, but over the next
couple of weeks they've got a shot. Now they've got
a shot in part because of health. Can a guy

(10:51):
like Cees, who, with the exception of that three game
series against the Diamondbacks last night and last Tuesday against
the Yankees. His bat has been really quiet. Can he
get it going enough to make a difference. Can Noel
Van Marte rejoin this team, stay healthy and kind of

(11:11):
pick up where he left off and start to make
a difference. Is the recent surge by Spencer Steer sustainable?
Can Austin Hayes stay healthy? Maybe the answers to these
questions are not all yes, but the answers to some
of them have to be regardless of what the Reds
do or don't do it the deadline. We'll see Reds

(11:32):
are off tonight, they're in Philadelphia to start a three
game series tomorrow. Five point three seven four nine fifteen
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seven six. Look, man, they've made it to July fourth weekend.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
They're in it.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
And again, I folks pessimists get mad at me for
saying that they are in it. They might not be
in it in two weeks. They are in it right now.
Let's talk about the deadline strategy, because I'll just give
you a sense of how I feel about where they
are and what they need to do. We'll do that
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Speaker 9 (13:20):
If I recommend something we started doing on day. If
you have to work on holidays, you have to start
broadcasts from a pool.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
From a pool, well, today is not a holiday. Today
is not a holiday.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
Well, the day before, the days where we're the only
ones working.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
The days where the tumbleweed is blowing through. iHeartMedia and
we're the only people here. Okay, we can broadcast from
a pool. I mean, then it's it's a matter of
getting the equipment screwed up, you know, getting the equipment
where you can't do that. But I would do the
show from a pool every day during the summertime. If
I could, I do it from a fire pit every
day during the fall, pool every day during the summer.

(13:56):
Maybe maybe we can maybe we can uh make that happen.
So the trade deadline in baseball is three weeks from today. Fact,
three weeks from today at four o'clock, so the All
Star break is obviously in the middle of that. The
Reds have a fair amount of baseball to play between
now and then. They have ten games between now and

(14:18):
the All Star break, and then obviously come back after
the break and they've got another one, two, three, four, five, six, ten,
another twelve before the twenty two games before the All
Star break. Significant chunk of the season, so some some
have argued. In fact, I read a newsletter from the
retired at Cincinnati Acquire sports columnist Paul Doherty's suggesting, Look,

(14:42):
the trade deadline really isn't going to be that impactful
to this team. Better health will be more impactful, and
I agree with that. I mean, what the Reds get
at the deadline, if they get anything, is probably not
going to solve all of their deficiencies. Chances are, if
they make a move, it's not going to be followed
up by a second move after that and a third

(15:02):
move after that. One guy from outside versus what they
already have. The one guy can make an impact, but
a bigger impact is going to be made by players
who didn't really perform all that well in the first
half of the season being better, or players who have
started to perform here but who weren't very good over
the first couple of months. Continuing the trend of performing

(15:25):
well in the second half, or players who weren't healthy
all that often being healthier in the second half. Hunter
Green coming back, Austin Hayes staying healthy now that he
is back, Jake Fraley coming back at some pointing and
being able to contribute and delaying surgery successfully until the offseason.
Noelve Marte coming back. But one of the arguments, not

(15:46):
even an argument, but one of the points a lot
of people have made is, and you know, it's one
of my least favorite tropes, the hurt guy coming back
is going to be the best kind of trade deadline
acquisition that's out there. And it's also out there. Look,
no need to be too aggressive, no need to do
something rash, no need to do something panicky, because when
fully healthy, the Reds have a pretty talented team. And

(16:08):
I don't entirely disagree. If noelve Marte comes back tomorrow,
there's gonna sort of be an odd man out on
a daily basis among a player who they either view
as important in the short term or a guy who
they view as key to the long term. But they're
about to be pretty damn healthy. Knock on wood, but

(16:30):
they're about to be pretty You're probably never gonna enjoy
ideal optimal health where nobody's hurt. But relatively speaking, Hayes
is back. Stevenson started the season on the inter List.
He is back. McLean spent some time on the IL.
He is back. Hunter Green is progressing nicely. The bullpen
is mostly whole. Mostly. I said, this team's about to

(16:55):
be healthy. They're about to give us and perhaps give
the front office a good look at what this team
can be when healthy. And so if you make the
argument that, well, the deadline is not that big of
a deal, or they don't need to do that much
of the deadline, or they don't need to give up

(17:16):
much of value at the deadline, because hey, with better health, they're.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Going to be fine.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's time to lean on some of those guys. Well,
Number one, I don't buy that, because you never know
if you're going to suffer another injury. Chances are you
are after the deadline, there's two more months where the
baseball to go. Chances are someone's going to get hurt.
Number two, is that really a strategy? Just shrug your
shoulders and hope for better health. That said, you're about

(17:47):
to get a glimpse at what the Reds can or
can't do when fully healthy, when at least as fully
healthy as you could expect a team to be in July.
But again, I know Jake Frayley's on the injured list. No,
Graham Ashcraft isn't available right now, Hunter Green is still
not in the starting rotation. But positionally, with Marte coming back,

(18:11):
you're about to get a look. So first of all,
we hope they stay healthy for a while. Secondly, if
if you lean toward not wanting to be that aggressive
at least with the position players, because when healthy, this
team is better then they've shown so far or capable
of making a run on its own. We're about to

(18:34):
find out if you're right or wrong. We're about to
find out, over the course of the next couple of
days and hopefully the next couple of weeks, what the
Reds are capable of doing when fully healthy. This is
what I think, and it's just what I think, And
the beauty of a show like this is you're welcome
to tell the rest of us what you think. Five win, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty is our phone number. Well, what I think

(18:55):
is this. I think the Reds are good enough who
hang in for the duration the duration being late September.
I think they are good enough to not completely fall
out of this. I could be dead wrong, but I
made the comparison to the team two years ago the

(19:16):
other day. The team two years ago you knew the
bottom was gonna fall out because the starting pitching stunk.
Now they've got to figure out whether or not Chase
Burns this year is worth moving forward with, and they've
got to get a Hunter Greenback healthy. But the starting
pitching is an asset. And while there are deficiencies, there's
no just huge gaping hole like the red starting pitching
two years ago that you know is going to totally

(19:39):
torpedo this team. I gotta be better against lefties. They
can use some more power, but there's nothing like the
starting pitching two years ago that you knew was just
gonna sink their season at some point, and obviously that's
what happened. I think they're good enough to hang in
there for the duration. I do not think they're good
enough to get to the postseason, and without acquiring some

(20:02):
outside help for their roster, namely a bat which is
not going to be easy to get, not going to
be cheap to get. I think there's there's a sweet
spot there, the sweet spot between having a team that's
good enough to hang in it and maybe not wanting
to disrupt the chemistry, and knowing that what they have

(20:27):
is good enough to stay in it, but maybe probably
not good enough to win it, And so then you've
got to go get help from the outside. Five point three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number. But we
are about to get it. May last for just a
couple of days, may last for a few weeks, may

(20:48):
last the rest of the season.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
We're about to get a pretty.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Good look at whether or not the Reds went healthy,
are good enough to leave unaddressed? On July thirty, first
three thirty sports lines, and I'm gonna try to help
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to ten on Saturday, one oh five on Sunday, all
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day for the Reds. But you know, we are we
are allowed to do this. We are allowed to do
this today because the Reds are kind of in the hunt.
We're allowed to take a look at the standings and
thus the scoreboard. So the Reds are six and a

(22:27):
half games at a first place, and I think, frankly,
the Cubs are too good to catch. I don't think
that's necessarily a hot take. They're six and a half back.
They also have to leap rog two teams. Maybe you
don't want to wave the right flag. Let's be honest,
if the Reds are to make the postseason, it's more
than likely it's gonna happen as a wildcard. There are
a game and a half out of the last wildcard spot,

(22:48):
which right now San Diego and Saint Louis. There's a
percentage point between the two. The Padres have one more loss,
Saint Louis has one more win. The Cardinals of obviously
played two more games. But you know what we could do,
at least for the time being, we can mention the
other games happening impacting the Reds. So Milwaukee, which split

(23:11):
a doubleheader with the Mets. Saint Louis three and a
half behind them. New York and Milwaukee won two in
the wild card spot. They played their series finale tonight
in Queens. The Cubs do host the Guardians. It feels
like that series has been going on for a month
and a half. I keep hearing that the red should
trade for Auhaneo Suarez, which signed me up for that.

(23:31):
I don't understand why we assume the Diamondbacks are gonna
punt now. They're only a five hundred team, but they
are a game and a half behind Cincinnati Arizona is
at home tonight for the San Francisco Giants and the
other teams. The Reds are chasing down or trying to
stave off, are off tonight. Don't forget Saturday. We have
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Phone calls coming up here and a bit plus we
have a couple of poll questions we have to get
to and the obligatory segment on competitive eating as well.
I read today it was in Cincinnati dot Com. I'm
guessing this was also published in USA Today. It's written
by Tyler Dragon, who used to actually cover the Bengals

(24:12):
for The Inquiry now writes for USA Today. The piece
is written by him. The headline is no progress made
between the Bengals and Schamar Stewart with training camp looming. This, obviously,
along with Trey Hendrickson, has been the story of the
back half of the off season. Bengals first round pick
has yet to agree to terms. They're haggling over language

(24:36):
in the contract if you have to take sides, and
in this day and age, it feels like that's all
we ever do is take sides. If we have to
take sides, taking chamar Stewart's side that said, I can

(24:59):
understand and what the Bengals are trying to do. They're
trying to essentially put in language that they think, over
the course of the entire league is going to become
pretty standard. Other teams have included the sort of language
that the Bengals and chamar Stewart are haggling over, and
so I can understand and appreciate that. Right, they're trying

(25:21):
to do what the Eagles have done. They're trying to
do it what we've said for years. Man wish the
Bengals would do this because all the other teams do this,
and they've done it. They're trying to do something that
may or may not not become commonplace around the league.
But it certainly does feel like putting this sort of
language in that convoid the guarantees if certain things happen

(25:41):
is becoming more and more common. And shamar Stewart's take
is and not to spend way too much time regurgitating
either side stances, but shamar Stewart's take is, I get it.
You want to set a precedent, do it with somebody else,
don't do it with me, Especially when you haven't done
it before, and your recent first round draft choices had

(26:03):
been taken at a comparable spot to where I was
taken last year.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Training camp is just under three weeks away, and we'll
see if they get a deal done before camp starts.
We'll see if this leaks into camp. We'll see if
this kind of takes on a life of its own
during camp, like we expect the Trey Hendrickson thing to.
I guess at some point here, man, and I've talked
to a handful of people who have had conversations off

(26:30):
the record, conversations, but conversations with people quote in the know,
who suggest, look, this is gonna get done. What they're
haggling over can be solved, and maybe that's the case,
and I hope, So I guess I would just ask
this to the Bengals. Has this fight been worth waging?

(26:53):
And is this fight worth continuing? No, you could ask
that and acknowledge what you're to do is something that
other teams have done, and what you're trying to do
is something that may become standard around the NFL moving forward.
But is this worth doing right now?

Speaker 6 (27:14):
In life?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
We say it all the time in relationships. Sometimes you
got to pick your battles. Sometimes at work you got
to pick your battles. Is this one worth fighting? Is
haggling over contract language so important that it could perhaps

(27:35):
compromise the ability of a guy that you took in
the first round to help your team significantly week one?
You could say, well, look during those minichamp practices and
during OTAs, they really weren't doing anything, and so Schamar
really didn't miss much. And maybe that's the case, but
he missed something like there was a reason Joe Burrow

(27:56):
was out there. There's a reason that Jamar Chase was
out there, and yes, didn't want to get fined, but
they saw value in a lot of the voluntary stuff.
Do you mean to tell me there was nothing that
he could have picked up being on the field in
those mini camp practices. So has it been worth fighting
to this point? And is it really worth fighting moving forward?

(28:17):
Is it worth having your first round pick not at
practice on day one? Is it worth having another thing
that just hovers over the entire start of training camp?
Is is this worth having your head coach have to
answer more questions about something that he has nothing to

(28:38):
do with. Is this worth having your coaches have to
work on another set of contingencies for a player maybe
being not there again, you might think, well, look, he's
a rookie. The clock's got to start. He's got no
wiggle room, he has no leverage. All of that may
be true, in fact, most of it is, but still
from a Bengals you're in NFL franchise, right, Like, yes,

(29:04):
you want to be like everybody else, But here's the rookie,
here's the NFL franchise. The rookie is the kid. The
NFL franchise is the adult. I'd ask the adult is
this really worth? Is this really worth it? Understanding what
the short term and maybe long term fallout could be.
I know there's many and perhaps you, who feel that

(29:27):
Shamar Stewart's stance is completely inappropriate. Took major issue with
how he handled himself during Minichamp, and I'm kind of
with you there. Believe that he should just go ahead
and sign and start his NFL career and give the
team no reason to avoid the guarantees. And there's arguments
to that can be made about all that stuff. But

(29:47):
from a Bengals perspective, is this is this really worth it?
Isn't this something that you can kick down the road
and work on with whoever you take in the first
round next year, and maybe let it be known moving
forward in the pre draft process. Hey, look, our first
round pick, whether we're picking number one overall or thirty
second overall, our first round pick and our subsequent picks

(30:11):
are going to sign contracts with the clauses that can
avoid the guarantees. Can't you just wait till next year
understanding that you've got a coach who, in many respects
is on the hot seat, a quarterback that the clock
is ticking on, and a franchise that has come to
be defined by whether or not they win a championship.

(30:32):
Isn't there so much other stuff to accomplish this offseason
and during this training camp? Don't they have a defense
to fix? Haven't they put a lot of pressure on
a defensive coordinator? Isn't there still the Trey Hendrickson uncertain
de floating over all this?

Speaker 11 (30:46):
So?

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Yeah, man, am I in love with how Schamar Stewart
has handled this?

Speaker 10 (30:50):
Not?

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Really? Does it make sense on some level for him
to go all right, fine, I'll sign the thing, I'll
get to camp, I'll start my career I'll give them
no reason to avoid my guarante. Yeah. But from a
Bengals perspective, is this really a fight right now? Worth fighting?
Some fights are some fights are worth fighting?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Is this one?

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Is this worth digging in on? Is this worth not
budging on? I have a hard time believing the answer
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(33:19):
that back a little bit and said, actually, the timeline
for his recovery is sort of uncertain. So a couple
of injury notes. We had a really good conversation yesterday
with doctor Brandon Cors from Ortho Cincy about Jake Fraley.
Jake Frayley is going to try to play through a
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(33:40):
a cortisone shot and he's going to have to have
surgery this offseason, but he's going to try to get
through the current stint on the injured list and then
play the second half of the season through whatever discomfort
he may be dealing with, which hopefully is minimal. We'll
see if that works out. But good conversation with doctor Cors.
Go listen to it now on the iHeartRadio app. We

(34:03):
have a few minutes. We have a few minutes. Rob
in Northern Kentucky. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty Rob, Good afternoon.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
How are you good?

Speaker 5 (34:12):
No?

Speaker 10 (34:12):
How you doing?

Speaker 5 (34:13):
I am awesome?

Speaker 6 (34:13):
What's up?

Speaker 13 (34:15):
Excod Hey, I can't believe I'm really gonna say this,
because you know, I've been a lifetime THINGALS fan since
I was born in nineteen seventy so the whole time.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
But you know, I'm.

Speaker 13 (34:27):
Actually I'm actually behind the management on this. With Tamar
Stewart because actually you could probably call this clause the
Jermaine Burton clause or the Vonte's birthpect clause or the
Pac Van Jun's clause, because you know they've manager has
made that mistake in the past by getting these guys
in there that just are idiots basically and make the

(34:51):
team look bad, make the community look bad, and somewhere
or somewhere down the line, you got to put your
foot down and say, Okay, you've had four tittle sacks
your whole college career.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
You are for four and a half, rob four and
a half.

Speaker 13 (35:08):
I'm sorry, sorry I missed his hand. I must have
been blank in my eyes when that happened. But anyway,
but the guy, really, I mean, he should be He
should count on himself and he should go in there
and say, Okay, I believe that I'm not going to
go out there and act like an idiot. I believe
I can do all the things he's saying. He's gonna

(35:28):
do that, He's gonna you know, just wait, do you
see until I get out there, You'll see my athletic ability.
You'll see this and that well we've never seen a since.
Hopefully he finds it somewhere between then and there. But
how I mean, I just wouldn't put give a guy
millions of dollars I off the bat guaranteed without knowing
that you know he's got his head screwed on straight

(35:50):
because they didn't find it last year with Burton.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Well, you make you make a good point. I guess
number one I would say this, you could have used
the pre draft process to find out whether not he
has his head on straight. Their amount of contact with
Shamar Stewart leading up to the draft was pretty minimal.
While you make a fair point, if I'm Shamar Stewart,
what I would say is, look, it ain't my fault
you took Jermaine Burton. It's not my fault you ignored

(36:15):
red flags. It's not my fault you didn't do the
homework with him and couldn't find a better alternative to
a guy who can't keep an apartment and goes to
the casino till all hours of the night and doesn't
show up to work. That's not my fault. So just
because you didn't do your homework with Jermaine Burton doesn't
mean I shouldn't have to sign the sort of contract
you didn't make Jermaine Burton sign That would be my

(36:37):
take with that. You mentioned two other like Fonte's perfect
his transgressions to me were limited to what happened on
the field. But what I would say if I was
Shamar Stewart was hey, man, you screwed up with Jermaine Burton.
You shouldn't have taken him. You ignored warning signs, you
ignored red flags. You took a chance on him. That's
your problem, not mine.

Speaker 13 (36:58):
Yeah, I agree, And I think maybe the fact that
Big was actually management has added people on is the
scouts and stuff to do more research like that, I
would assume, but at least just this year, because definitely
they screwed up last year by having the head coach
basically pull for Burton to be on the team.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 13 (37:22):
Understand. I totally understand you're look at it too. I
just as a as a company and as a management.
You know, I have my own company, and you know,
if you want to work for me, then I expect
you to be on time, not screwing around, not fall
asleep in meetings and not stuff like that. You know,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I trust me. I totally get a rob Thank you,
for the phone call, and I hope you have a
great Fourth of July weekend. I totally understand that. What
I would say, though, is you took a guy last
year who struggled with those things. Why are you going
to make me pay for it? That's not my problem,
that's Jermaine Burton problem. It's coming up on four o'clock
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Brediman and Jones on baseball. I have been following the
Reds since nineteen eighty four, and the first year that

(38:55):
I really got into them and really got into baseball
was nineteen eighty five. It's why I have such deep
affection for Dave Parker so a long time. Now, right
like my formative years as a baseball fan, we're in
the mid eighties, and the first like Reds closer that
I could really remember was John Franco, who has a

(39:18):
very good case to be a Reds Hall of Famer,
pitched forever, maybe more identifiable as in New York, met
part of the trade, in fact, the guy in the
trade that brought Randy Myers to Cincinnati, but he was
the closer. And since then the Reds have had obviously
forty plus years worth of closers, some very good, some
stuck around for quite a while, some flashes in the pans.

(39:41):
Some were closers who then became starters. Some were closers
who failed as starters. Some were closers who came from
other teams, Some were home grown, Some became closers because
there was nobody else, some kind of beat out other
guys who were also possible closers. Lots of different types
of closers, and over the last forty years, we've obviously

(40:01):
seen the Reds have very good teams, a World championship team.
We've seen them have teams that were good but not
quite good enough. We've seen the Reds have teams that
underachieved relative to their overall talent. We've seen them have
teams that have overachieved relative to their collective talent. We've
seen them obviously have a lot of disappointing seasons. We've

(40:24):
had teams that had seasons that were over by the
time we got to Father's Day. All different types of teams,
different types of eras. We've had multiple ballparks, we've had
multiple radio and TV announcers, lots of different changes, lots
of different things. The games themselves have changed. They used
to be on AstroTurf here now they're on grass. How

(40:44):
we talk about the sport has changed. We used to
love sacrifice bunts. Now we know that sacrifice bunts are
bad strategy. So lots of changes, lots of evolution. But
there's been one constant, at least in my life one
yea constant, and that constant has been that regardless of

(41:06):
who the closer was, he always brought about a fair
amount of unease, and there were usually questions about whether
or not he could be replaced or should be replaced.
We love the nasty boys. We revere the nasty boys.

(41:34):
You think of the nineteen ninety team, and that's probably
the first thing that comes to mind, the nasty boys, Dibble, Myers, Charlton.
I remember nineteen ninety as a twelve year old kid
who is a sports talk radio geek. I would listen
to the likes of Andy McWilliams and Andy Furman and others,

(41:57):
take phone calls from fans who would complain about the
fact that Rob Dibble made them nervous or that Randy
Meyers made them nervous. It doesn't matter who the closer
has been. We were talking about rold As Chapman yesterday
because he pitched against the Reds, and I wasn't planning

(42:17):
on talking about a rold As Chapman, but I just
started to think about his debut in Cincinnati in twenty ten,
which was electrifying when a rold As Chapman was the
Reds closer. At times the Reds were really good and
at times not so much. There were folks that are
rold as Chapman made nervous sometimes even when he was
really good, you had people who couldn't look past that,
and it talked about him maybe being a starting pitcher.

(42:42):
So the reason I bring this up is there seems
to be corners of the fan base who struggle with
Emelio Pegan. So my guy Austin Elmore, who is this
week just been a fountain of things that have given
me fodder for my show. During the game last night,
Emelia Pegan came on closed down the Red Sox. He

(43:04):
did not get a save because it wasn't a safe situation.
I don't understand why saves are a stat but I
haven't going back to the mid eighties, which I was
just referring to. Nonetheless, he did not get the save.
He did get. He did record the last three outs
of the game, which is what he was brought on for. Now,
in the course of getting the last three outs, he

(43:25):
gave up a hit. It compelled my colleague Austin Elmore
to ask, and I guess, not rhetorically, how often does
he get a one two three inning? And the answer
is fifteen times. In his thirty six appearances he has
gotten a one two three inning. The other times there
have been some uneasy moments. He has three blown saves.

(43:45):
One of the blown saves was the game where Matt
McClain vaporlocked and allowed Stuart Fairchild to score the game
tying run. The Reds lost that game. The job of
the closer ideally, yes, every time he came in he
would pitch a perfect ninth inning. But the job of
the closer isn't so much to record a perfect ninth inning.
The job of the closer is to get the last

(44:06):
three outs and preserve victory. Amelio Pagan has done a
pretty good job of that this year. Amelio Pagan is
having an excellent season. Emilio Pagans walks and hits per
innings pitch number is zero point eight six', one which
means that on, average he is giving up less than

(44:29):
one walk or hit per innings. Pitched, REALLY i did that.
Poorly he is on average per inning giving up less
than one walk or hit basically less than one base
runner opposing batters or hitting one forty eight against.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Him he is.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Allowing one point five home runs per nine, innings.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Which isn't.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Awesome it's better than one hundred and eighty seven other qualified,
pitchers by the way that whip walks in hits per.
Innings pitch number zero point eight six. One arguably the
best pitcher in, baseball and he's a, starter but arguably
the best pitcher in. Baseball Trek schooble zero point eight.

(45:24):
Three Emilio pagan.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
Is like just as.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Good if the concern is he's not getting the three
outs and he's blowing, games and games that should be
won are lost Because Amelio pegan is blowing. Them that's a.
Problem if the, problem, though is way too often in

(45:52):
en route to getting those three, outs he's allowing a
base runner or. Two i'm not gonna say that's totally,
insignificant because the more base runners you, allow the higher
the probability of the other team. Scoring and so you,
know you don't want to make it a habit of
get the three, outs but en route to getting the three,
outs you allow a walk and a hit every single,
Time like eventually you're gonna, cave you're gonna blow, games

(46:15):
but he's.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Not but he's.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Not and so like The reds could use a bullpen,
arm and you, Know god knows if there's a better
bullpen arm Than amelia pegan then stick him in the closers.
Role i've actually been pretty, pleased and Maybe i'm in
the minority, here been pretty pleased with the job that
he has. Done And i've joked about this before that
it feels like my entire adult. Life i've heard people talk,

(46:38):
about like The reds need a leadoff, hitter and by the,
WAY i THINK. Tj friedel has kind of solved. That
there have been Times i've wished That Ellie Dela cruz
would bat lead, off BECAUSE i do think your best
hitter should bad. First but that's a different. Conversation but
it has felt like for the better part of like thirty,
years pretty much my entire adult. Life one of the
main topics every offseason is who's gonna be the leadoff?
Hitter and for a, Year Shit Sue chuo solved, it

(47:01):
and then he went away And Billy hamilton they tried
that that obviously didn't, work and now it feels like
they have a pretty good leadoff. GUY i feel like
one of the other constants is AND i don't necessarily
think this is just A reds fan. THING i think
across the, country you ask most baseball fans about their,
closer they'll talk about the unease they feel when he.

(47:21):
Pitches why because when he gives up a, hit chances
are that guy's the tying run or the tying runs
coming to the. Plate like he's pitching in the tightest
of high leverage. Situations so of course he's gonna make
you nervous when he does something as innocent as give
up a. Hit for the most, part he gets the three,
outs and he's better at not giving up base runners

(47:44):
than you might. Think statistically per, inning fewer than one
walkin' hit combined per. Inning that's that's that's really. Good
guys are hitting one forty six against Some he hasn't been.
Perfect he typically comes in to start the inning and
so there's not a lot of inherited. Runners but he's
inherited four runners this. Year none of them have. Scored

(48:06):
he has blown the two, saves gave up the homer
In Saint louis To Aaronato. Like it has not been
infallible by any, stretch And i'm all ears if there's
a better option, AVAILABLE i don't think there's one internally right.
NOW i don't think That Lion richardson should Supplant Emelio.
Pagan and by the, Way Emilio pagan has taken on

(48:26):
the role that he's taken on Because Alexis diaz didn't
want to be the. Closer. APPARENTLY i don't think The
Graham ashcraft is the. Answer i'm not Sure Tony santien
is the. Answer for the most, Part Emilio pagan has
been pretty good in the ninth. Inning and AGAIN i
certainly will acknowledge if you have a closer who is
routinely giving up like two hits or walking two guys

(48:48):
every time he gets the, ball even if the other
team isn't, scoring it can be troubling because the more
runners you give, up the higher the probability of the
other team scoring. Is But number, one fifteen out of
thirty six innings have been, one, two three. INNINGS i
don't know where that is in the range of major league.
Closers that strikes me as pretty. Good number, two he

(49:11):
is still getting the three outs, overwhelmingly so statistically it's
hard to quabble or quarrel with the. Results dudes are
hitting a buck forty eight against. Him that's WHAT i
want for my. Closer he is routinely recording one two three.
Innings that is WHAT i want for my. Closer his
walks and hits per, innings pitch number is. Elite that's

(49:34):
WHAT i want for my. Closer and if you disagree with,
that that's. Fine if you think there's somebody better who
could be, had that's. Okay look if they went out
and acquired the best closer available and Suddenly Emilia pagan
is the eighth inning, guy, Fine BUT i do feel,
like and you could tell me If i'm, wrong it
hasn't mattered who the closer is for me because my

(49:55):
entire life there's always been some sort of unease about
the closer because of the handful of times that he
may have blown a save or the handful of times
that he might have created some nervous moments while getting the.
SAVE a closer's pitch in tight, situations and so if
they walk a guy, suddenly it's nerve. Racking if a

(50:15):
dude who's pitching in five nothing games walks, somebody it's
not that big of a. Deal close games are inherently nerve.
Wracking the closer usually only pitches in close, games which
means his appearances are going to be nerve. Racking SO
i love my, Guy. Austin i'm apparently not a Huge
Amelia pegan, guy And i'm SURE i, agree Man, like

(50:39):
there are times where it's like you're making this a
little bit more difficult than it needs to. Be but
for the most, part the guys had a really good.
Season are there better? Closers of course there. Are i'm
not sure any of them are coming here this, summer
AND i don't believe any of them are on staff right,
now And i'm not sure any of them are In.
Louisville and as closers, go the amount of, unknees the

(51:02):
amount of nervousness That Emilio pagan sort of stirs up
is kind of on par with pretty much every other
closer THAT i can. Remember and The reds have had
some really good. Closers your thoughts are welcome at five, one, three, seven, four,
nine fifteen THIRTY Fc cincinnati had kind of dipped Right
we're talking Late, may Early, june and uh look discombobulated and.

(51:28):
Disorganized in the last three, games they've been really good
And evander has been. Awesome we'll see if they can
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(52:38):
guy who last time he JOINED, us he AND i
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and that he was going to call that. Match that's
that's WHEN Fc, cincinnati that's before they started their. Slide
they're back to playing. Well so it's good to Have
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Speaker 6 (52:55):
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Speaker 3 (52:57):
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Speaker 5 (52:59):
What are you as excited AS i?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Am, No i'm.

Speaker 10 (53:02):
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i tell you WHO i am excited. About are you
ready for?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
It let's hear? It Evander WELL mvp stuff recently from that,
guy he's been. Unbelievable And i'll tell you. What that
win Against orlando and we just we just finished up
our call With Pat nowt in a couple of hours,
ago AND i had a feeling he was going to say,
this but he said it was one of the biggest
wins that they've had all, season and the pieces that
they were, missing having played on the road Against montreal

(53:37):
On wednesday and then going to Hot orlando and playing
in that sort of temperature and that sort of environment
against a very Good Orlando city team and a vanders
scoring two goals in both. Games like you, know he
again he's very different Than, luco but he's having A
blucho type of season in terms of the end, product
the ability to win games and to just sort of
be a guy when you're when you're, struggling which Which
cincinnati was on the day for the most. Part that

(54:00):
free kick is, otherworldly and he's putting together AN mvp
caliber type of.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Season he's putting together A Lutro acosta type. Season AND
i feel, like you, know they went through that stretch
where they lose To, atlanta they drew With, dallas they
played on evenly Against, columbus they didn't play well AGAINST.
Dc and it's been very rare that During Pat newton's
time In cincinnati THAT Fc cincinnati has looked. Discombobulated they
had some time. AWAY i feel like over these last three,

(54:25):
matches they've just looked like a different. Team having a
vander do the stuff he does certainly, helps but they've
just looked.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Different, yeah they.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Have and you, Know pat addressed the slide and addressed
the poor, play and not even poor, PLAY i would
just say the unfortunate string of results because even during those,
games like it wasn't destitute like we've seen from some
of the teams around the league Like Atlanta, united like
that's a bad soccer. Team when you watch, them you
look at, them you're, like these guys can't complete a
fifteen yard path and compared to play in My Gotham

(54:54):
league At Startle stadium like On monday. Nights so it
was never that bad From Pat newton's if they just
couldn't string together the. Results but like you, SAID i
think the time away did them. Good they were able
to work.

Speaker 10 (55:05):
In some things during.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Training pat mentioned, that but above all, else it's just
finding ways to win in this. League, WELL i, say
like you AND i have this conversation all the.

Speaker 9 (55:14):
Time IT'S.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Mls there's salary, caps there's crazy financial things in place
to be able to ensure. Parody and the fact of
the matter is is like you're going to slide a
few games over the course of over the course of the.
Season BUT fc have had, three, four five different types
of winning streaks of, three four and five game varieties this,
season and.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
That's all you.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Want you got to get hot at the right time
and then if you do go on a, fly you
just need to make sure that you. Respond and they
respond after four winless with three wins in a, row
coming up with a huge three game homestand starting With.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Chicago, yeah you, know it's, interesting is as much of
us as much as a lot of us griped throughout
the month Of may about how they were playing total
first world. Problems if you would have, listened and this
happens a lot in, sports you AND i know, This
if you would have listened to how people talked about the,
team you would think this is a second half of
the table. Squad this is a team that right, now
AND i Know philadelphia has been awesome over the last few,

(56:05):
weeks is a game out of the top spot in
The Eastern.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Conference, yeah AND i think that they're deserved of, that Right,
like they're a group that has been very very good
at home one loss at home this season so, far
and then have also been a team that you, know
on the, road has been able to pick up points
where they see. Fits AND i think that when you're
looking at the best teams in The Eastern, conference The,

(56:28):
columbuses The, nashville's The, philadelphia's And miami's not in the
top three right. Now it's just simply because they have
four games in hand and they were away On Club World,
cup and they just have other things going on and
they'll play those games at some. Point it's just been
one of those deals With cincinnati where they've collected, points
they've bounced back from losses for the most part the,
season with the exception of that four game. Slide and

(56:50):
this is right where they're supposed to be mo top,
two top three in The Eastern. Conference past the midway
point Of vaner, Clicking dencake Clicking Kai, kamara who they brought,
in there's been a huge. Boost forty year old who's
playing for his twelve different club And Major League. Soccer,
now like this is what we expected out of this.
Group and For cincinnati sports, fans how often do you
get to say that the expectations coming into his season

(57:10):
have actually been met a little bit more than halfway
through the.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Season not that.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
Often tell, me what About chicago presents some trouble FOR
Fc cincinnati On. SATURDAY i got.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Two words for. You his name Is Philip, zinkernagle and he's.
Legit he's arguably a top three attacker in the.

Speaker 10 (57:29):
League for my.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Money you Throw evander And Anders driver From San diego
into that, conversation AND i think that you, know this
is the type of guy that can Hurt cincinnati at.
Home and, AGAIN fc have had this tendency to keep games.
Close they don't slam the door. Shut that's sort of
been their. Mo it's the one goal wins Under Pat
noon and going back to twenty twenty three in a
supporter shield. Year but as good As chicago are going,
forward including your thirteen million dollar man From belgium And Hugo,

(57:52):
kuiper's they're they're poor, DEFENSIVELY i mean really. Poor they're
they're top three In Major League soccer and attacking and
their numbers will bear that. Out but defensively they give
up goals left and. Right AND i think That evander,
again And pat keeps saying. This he, goes you, know he's,
LIKE i don't want to make our attacking play at you,
know all about one. Guy but If anders is that
good where if he has time and space and give
him the, ball so let plenty of time in, space

(58:14):
AND i think s he should just be fine if
if they if they give number ten the ball and
then if they just you, know lock things up. Defensively
but this, dude phillips In chernagle From chicago's. Legit he
roams all over the, field he's got really good. Pace
he's a great gribbler of the. Ball he can beat
you one v one, defensively so s he will have
their hands full trying to stop.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Him so On monday, nights IF i go down to
The West end At Stargell, STADIUM i can watch you play.
Soccer yes you.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Can Real's Socio dads is the name of our team
or reigning. Champions AND i don't want to.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Brag now you broke up on you don't want to?
Brag but what.

Speaker 13 (58:49):
You got?

Speaker 10 (58:49):
Me, NO i.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
Gotcha you said you don't want to, brag and then
he dropped. Off would you say that was not?

Speaker 10 (58:55):
Intentional that was not.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Intentionive BUT i SAID i don't want to. BRAG i,
SAID i don't want to. Brag but our team is pretty,
legit rainy champions and we're looking to do the double this.
Season we got we got a lot of good, talent
a lot of former college soccer. Players so the Greater
cincinnati area has officially been put on.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Notice, okay, good good to, Know good to. KNOW i
know that. Neighborhood, well so it's right by the, stadium
so you, know may come down In heckle one. Night
awesome to have you as, always man have a great
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Time thanks mouth appreciate you.

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Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Thirty, HEY.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I appreciate your jubris for Mister.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Pagan is it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Misguided, no not?

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Misguided i'm.

Speaker 10 (01:02:52):
Misguided UH i GUESS i just GET i keep thinking
back to the all too much to the old days
with these, Flames like Even Chapman Goose, Cossage Well Rolly
fingers wasn't really a plain. Triller well he was really,
Good but, NO i don't think there's like that guy
For San Diego. Suarez really against The, reds he showed me.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
NOTHING i.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
Don't entirely. Disagree So Amelio pagans walks in hits per
innings pitched zero point eight six.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
One.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Uh many baseball fans will tell you that the greatest
closer of all time Is Marianna, rivero only Unanimous hall Of,
famer iconic postseason, performances pitch for nineteen years in the big.
Leagues do you know that in seventeen of those seasons

(01:03:50):
his whip was worse Than Amelio pegan's is right.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
Now, Well i'm not putting, him.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Not saying he, is not saying he is not even.
Close mario And revere's A hall Of, famer greatest closer
of all. Time BUT I i THINK i could use
that to illustrate That amelio pagan has been better than
a lot of people would. Realize, Again i'm not here
to tell you that there can't be better options out.
There i'm not sure that they should necessarily earmark him

(01:04:25):
as the closer moving, forward none of, That BUT i
feel like in the general point to me is LIKE
i take griping about the closer with a grain of,
salt BECAUSE i think people have been griping about the
closer for my entire. Life, Now Amelio pagan is going
to be a free agent at the end of this.
Year he's thirty, four thirty five years. Old i'd be

(01:04:45):
more than happy with him on the team next. Year
and if he were to be thrust in a situation
like this year where he's basically forced to be the,
closer sign me. UP i also do, think LIKE i,
mentioned his, whip his whip is better than it's ever
been in his. Career, chance it's his, Are it's gonna
there's gonna be some regression to the, mean BUT i
think he's been better than people.

Speaker 10 (01:05:05):
Realize and as much as EVEN i tend to whip
On Nick, KRAWL i, mean he pulled some rabbits out
of his, hat AND i got to give him credit
for that. Guy he did a good job getting him
over here, well.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
And you, know last year was uneven injuries were a
part of. It when he was on the, mound he
wasn't very. Good but he's he's he's done well this.
Year Nick krawl Had Nick krawl has had his, successes
AND i would Count Emilio pagan his success this year
is as on that.

Speaker 10 (01:05:35):
List, well did you look at The American League All star? Positions?

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
UH i glanced at.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
It, yeah, yeah the only ONE i. THOUGHT i, Know
i'm with.

Speaker 12 (01:05:47):
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Speaker 10 (01:05:49):
Just really wish they'd let the players. Pick tip to,
YOU i wish, that you know What i'm, saying that
the players picked the. Teams BUT i thought that for so,
long even when they would pass out, them still little
cards and all.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
That you, know of Course, La New.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
York all the big, Cities, yeah they get the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Guys but uh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
BUT i, mean but you're right about that to a.
Degree but on The American League All star, team we
Have Jacob wilson who plays in a minor league, park that's.
True we Have Jose ramirez who plays for The, Guardians Cal,
rawley who's a, star plays for The Seattle. MARINERS i, mean,
yeah there's there's there's a lot of there's a lot

(01:06:28):
of big market. Players BUT i, mean, again you got
a guy who plays in a minor league park who's
Starting shortstown for The American.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
League so it's not just.

Speaker 10 (01:06:36):
Market, No i'm thrilled with that, too because the GUY'S
i don't know if you've seen him play, much he
really is, outstanding aust terrific play a couple of games
Against Steve rays and he he was better THAN i
thought he. Was the only guy thought really got screwed
was the first base camp For Tampa. Rondo he's having
the hell of the year and he hit in three
twenty and he can, run and they give it To.

(01:06:59):
Guerrero that's What, Okay guerro is not really having a
great year LAST i, Checked but there's a name recognition
thing that comes into, play AND i think that's WHAT
i was alluding to WHAT i talked about The, cards no.
Question now let me switch topics real. Quick and and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
And by the, WAY i Believe Amelio pegan will.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Be An All.

Speaker 10 (01:07:19):
Star i'm crossing my fingers.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Well on the top Of Ellie Dela cruz will be
An All. Star Andrew abbott obviously has a, chance ALTHOUGH
i think unfortunately for, him there's just so many starting
pitchers having excellent. SEASONS i Think Amelia pagan out of
The bullpen is going to be is going to be
An All Star.

Speaker 10 (01:07:40):
GOD i, HOPE i hope they have it makes. It
i'm just he's just so impressive every single time almost
but AROUND i think that's. Screwed but anyway to, football
just real, Quick Paul, brown you, know he was kind
of the forefather of so much stuff and SO i

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came to football. Knowledge and he always puts so much
emphasis on the. Center death of D Bob johnson this,
YEAR i was taking a look AT TFFS tffs ratings
FOR nfl centers and the problem for The bengals is
two out of the top three are in are in our.

(01:08:23):
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Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Linderbaum has got to be ranked one or, two, correct
and Then fraser For pittsburgh is not. High he's he's
where is he?

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
At he's?

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Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
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Linked.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
UH i was going to Say Ted carris is middle
of the. Pack then makes him that makes? Sense makes?

Speaker 10 (01:08:49):
Sense, well they praised him heavily for his pass protection. Ability,
uh not so much on in in the run. Game
but we got a pass offense. Though that's he's doing
when he'supposed to, do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Right, uh, sure you would like for him to be
a little bit. BETTER i wonder If Ted carris can
spend more time blocking one guy than having to clean
up the messes of the guards between, him how much
his grade will?

Speaker 10 (01:09:11):
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Speaker 10 (01:09:24):
Beats just, kidding just just a little, kidding just kidding
a little. Bit try to stir the pot like you
do all the, Time, KEVIN i, say.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Mo all, Right, mike, good have a have a have a,
good have a good fourth Of, July thanks very, much that's.
RIGHT i Compared Amelio pagan To. Mariana Amelio pagan is.
Fine he is. Fine he has been. FINE I I
i worry more about, like has he been so good
that he can't be this good in the second half

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Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
Me the first one is about The reds being in
buy mode or sell? Mode do you ever ever look
at YOUR? Ats SO i looked at MY ats during
the break, earlier and the ats you, know On, Twitter
i've seen this opinion expressed The reds are good enough
to not need to make a move at the. Deadline,

(01:14:02):
now in my, opinion they're good enough to stay in.
Contention they could. Use here are teams that are better
than The, reds that have better rosters than The, reds
that are gonna try to make upgrades at the. Deadline
and Yet i'm to believe The reds are Are we're,
Fine we're, good you. KNOW i, mean The cubs are
gonna make, Moves The phillies are gonna make, moves The
mets are gonna make, Moves The dodgers are gonna make.

(01:14:24):
Moves San, diego all the Contending American league, teams Probably
Milwaukee Saint louis is kind of, interesting we'll. See but
The reds are the. One we're. Good i've seen. That
i've also seen it suggested in MY ats that The
reds aren't good enough to warrant a. Move both arguments
are somehow being made right. Now in my, ats both

(01:14:47):
arguments are out there right. Now The reds are good
enough and The reds aren't good. Enough both used as
rationale for not buying at the, deadline so to, speak
for not making move number. One they're not good enough
that they can't use help number. Two if they're not
good enough and yet they're still in, contention that's a

(01:15:11):
reason to not try to make your team. BETTER i
think what's out, there AND i know this is a
familiar theme on this, show and the reason why it's
a familiar theme on this show is BECAUSE i have
never gotten the. ANSWER i think there is a great
reluctance among many of us who care deeply about The
reds to, quote mortgage the, future to screw up the.

(01:15:37):
FUTURE i think that reluctance has some people crippled and
paralyzed in fear that if they make if The reds
make any sort of, move it's somehow gonna just totally
screw up the. FUTURE i have asked this going back

(01:15:57):
to twenty twenty. Three blain to me how that's going
to be the. Case if you, believe as many, do
that The reds have a pretty good farm, system pretty
well stocked with. Prospects if you believe, that how on
earth are you fearful that one move is going to

(01:16:20):
totally derail what they're trying to do down the. ROAD
i asked this a lot two years. Ago two years,
ago not that we have to totally rehash, it but
The reds had a major starting pitching. Deficiency many of us,
BELIEVED i certainly include myself among those who believe. This
many of us believed that that team was worth going

(01:16:42):
for it. With were The reds going to win The
World series two years? Ago? No but was there value
in getting to the? POSTSEASON i think? So AND i
think there was value in like winning a postseason. Series,
plus it's. Baseball there's sort of a you never, know
like The Arizona diamondbacks that you're made The World. Series
they won eighty four, games so who. Knows The reds

(01:17:05):
hurt their chances of getting to the. Postseason and WHAT
i heard leading up to the deadline and WHAT i
heard coming out of the deadline was, eh you know,
what they're ahead of. Schedule you don't want to do
anything that's going to screw up the. Future would one
trade screw up your? Future if one trade is so
dramatically going to screw up your future that you have
no chance of contending down the, road your, team your

(01:17:26):
organization really. Stinks AND i can't find anybody who thinks
The reds organization really. Stinks there's questions about, it there's
skepticism about. It farm system seems to be pretty decent right.
NOW i do believe, this, though and you can tell
me If i'm. Wrong like number, one can't you make
a move that makes your team at least slightly? Better

(01:17:47):
by the, way baseball is kind of a sport of
slight upgrades because one guy can only do so. Much
you mean to tell me there's no room for a slight.
Upgrade and you mean to tell me that after thirty
years of waiting for The reds to win in the,
postseason we're supposed to wait another year because the front
office is just gonna, say you know, what the team

(01:18:07):
right now is not good. Enough. Now, look, man they
have twenty two games between now and the trade. Deadline
if they lose like nineteen of their next twenty two different,
conversation but the QUESTION i asked, was if The reds
are where they are right, now which is a game
and a half out of the, wildcard what if they don't?
Buy SO i kind of got off on a tangent,
here but my question, is and there's another, one but

(01:18:27):
the number one is if The reds are a game
and a half out of the last wildcard spot On
july thirty first and don't buy at the, deadline that's
either a totally cool stay the course with what they've,
got or be an affront to a star fan base
and a slap in the face to a group of
players who deserve. BETTER i think the answer is more

(01:18:48):
likely be, Again we'll. See we'll see where The reds
are around the. Deadline we'll see how well they do fully,
Healthy we'll see if they totally crater and make this conversation.
Move there's a lot that's gonna. Happen they're gonna, play you,
know basically like an eighth of their season between now
And july thirty. First but WHAT i don't understand is
the argument this team's. Fine they're, good like are? They

(01:19:10):
and even if you think it's a good, team there's
not room for upgrades like there have been far better
baseball teams than the twenty twenty Five reds who have
gotten help at the deadline and have had that help
help them get to the postseason and. Beyond AND i
also don't understand the well they're not good. Enough we
if they're not good, enough but you acknowledge they're at least.

(01:19:32):
Today in, contention you mean to tell me you're just
gonna shrug your shoulders and go not good.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Enough we'll, see we'll.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
See my take on it has been AND i said
this in the first. Hour my take on it, IS
i think The reds are good enough to hang in.

Speaker 9 (01:19:48):
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Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
Yeah like, again if if just before The All star
break they lose eight out of, ten WHICH i don't
think they, will but let's say they, do then the conversation.
Changes BUT I i think this team is good enough
to hang in there as currently. CONSTRUCTED i find it
hard to believe that is currently constructed without outside, help

(01:20:09):
they're going to be good enough to get over the.
Hump time may, tell and it may be a mood
point based on what they do at the. DEADLINE i
also asked, this so the fourth Of, july everybody gets
excited about The nathan's hot dog eating, contest which is
a sports talk radio, staple you, know because the host
will talk about how many hot dogs they can. Eat
AND i am probably in the minority. HERE i say

(01:20:34):
this to somebody who is an avid eater who loves to,
eat you could argue at Times i've had a problem with.
EATING i love to. Eat WHEN i see highlights of
The nathan's Hot dog eating, CONTEST i get sick to my.
Stomach there are many things That i'm not that, into

(01:20:55):
BUT i can understand why others. ARE i can understand
what makes them entertaining competitive. Eating i've seen it in person.
Once they had one At October Vest, cincinnati and That
Joey chestnut guy was, there And Nicholas shay was there
and they had a hot dog eating contest AND i
left after about three. MINUTES i typically don't have a

(01:21:17):
very weak. Stomach watching people do that makes me sick
to my. Stomach there are very few things like that
THAT i THAT i that have me incapable of understanding the.
ALLURE i do not understand for the life of me
why some find that entertaining and or.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
Interesting that's some of the normal people can't do.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
Right there's a lot of THINGS i can't do THAT
i find interesting and. Entertaining watching someone gorge themselves with
hot dog while scarfing down water in a finite amount
of time is not among.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
THEM i.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
Can't beat a blocker in front of me and sack a.
QUARTERBACK i can't do, that BUT i love to watch
people who do. THAT i can't shoot from Where Steph
curry makes. THREES i love to watch. THAT i can't
throw a ninety eight mile an hour. SLIDER i like
to watch a picture who could do. That i'll never
shoot in the. SEVENTIES i love to watch golfer shoot

(01:22:24):
in the, sixties so THAT i get watching somebody eat
at that level as many hot and again it's been,
many many years Since i've even tried to watch, that
but don't show the, highlights LIKE i quite legitimately can't
think of anything that makes me want to gag more

(01:22:45):
than watching someone try to do. That so the question
is competitive. Eating is it entertaining or? Disgusting it's always
interesting to, Me LIKE i love skyline cheese. Cony as
you know, That i'll have people that say to, me
LIKE i can eat more Skylight coney's into sitting the
new and it's like cool man like, Awesome or let's
do a coney eating contest like, nah, man, Like i'd

(01:23:08):
like to sit down and enjoy my. Food you, know
eating Fifteen coney's in three, minutes is that not my?
JAM i love hot, Dogs like the idea of eating
for me is, like let's enjoy what we're. Eating so
there's just a handful of things in life that WHEN
i see, THEM i cannot relate to, them AND i
don't understand why they're as popular as they, are and

(01:23:29):
PHYSIOLOGICALLY i don't understand. WHY i don't understand how that
doesn't make people want to throw up themselves watching people
eat like. That so vote vote now at mylegger thanks
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(01:23:51):
of games this year that they have won that have seemed,
like you, know wins that are bigger than just you,
know one more notch in the win. Column last night
was one Of last night felt. Big last night felt
like The red's doing something that really good teams have to.
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(01:25:08):
fourth Of. July Chase burns is gonna Pitch sunday's, game
which will be interesting against a really Good philly. Lineup
be honest with, me, okay be honest with. Me last,
night if you were watching or listening to The reds
game they're In Boston Fenway, park you knew they had
lost the first, game the continued game From tuesday night

(01:25:30):
and not only lost. It but you, know let let
a lead get away lose five to, three second consecutive
loss in the sixth. Inning last, night it's it's three.
Nothing Nick martinez has battled and has, pitched, okay But
boston has made it three to nothing on that two

(01:25:51):
run home run that barely eclipsed the right field. Wall
to that, point, offensively The reds had been able to
do absolutely nothing against a whole slew Of boston. Pitchers
be honest with. Me you did not have them coming
back to win that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
Game be, honest it's.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Me, okay, Honesty, merchant you did not have them coming
back to win that. Game you're already thinking worst case
great swept In. Boston now got to go To. Philly
best cases win. One they're gonna be back under five.
Hundred miami's playing better there here next. WEEK i put

(01:26:31):
this on social media after the. Game, mathematically every win
counts the, same whether you win on the road when at,
home whether you win one zip or eid, zip whether
you win eleven to ten or eleven to, nothing they
all count the. Same there are certain wins that feel
like they count for just a little bit. More last
night's win In boston was one of. Them ay come
from behind victory spearheaded by the Grand slam off the

(01:26:53):
bat Of christian And karnasi On, strand who was not
originally in the starting lineup last. Night you talk about
a guy this team could desperately need to get. Going
they could use anybody getting. Going cees needs to get
going for this. Team he, ALSO i, think just for
his own, benefit for his own, career could certainly use
a little bit of a hot. Surge here hits the

(01:27:15):
ball out Of Fenway. Park WHAT i loved about WHAT
i loved about the seventh inning last, night, though was
not only does he hit The Grand slam and The
reds take the, lead but they got one more of
that inning thanks to a single From Elie Dela.

Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
Cruz admit, it admit.

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
It prior to that free zip seventh, inning you did
not have them winning that. Game i'd be willing to
bet that in the bottom of the seventh, inning when,
uh it looks Like boston's rounding A malley rounding mounting a, Rally,
uh you're, thinking worst, case plenty of time to blow it.
Right they Left martinez in a little bit too, long

(01:27:52):
AND i was a little surprised to, see despite the
fact that they used relievers earlier in the day in
the game that they. Lost was a little bit surprised
to See martin as out there in the seventh inning last,
night but admit, It admit it. Now so the play
we're talking about the play here Where Romei gonzalez hits
a ball to left field and that's that's that's made

(01:28:14):
it a one run, game and Now boston's gonna have
a guy on, second except he tries to run the
third And matt McClain makes a great heads up play
and throws them out at, third and it extinguishes the,
rally so to. Speak but as he is circling the
basis as they're scoring a, run you're, thinking, great they're
gonna give back to five to three. Lead like just,

(01:28:34):
emotionally that felt like a bigger deal last, night winning
the way they, did getting the start From Nick, martinez
the heads up play For matt, McLain and this was
set on THE tv. BROADCAST i Know matt McClain made
an error the other night in that game That Chase burns,
started but for all of his offensive issues for much
of the first half of the, Season Jeff brantley talked about.
This he's still a guy that you expect to make

(01:28:54):
the heads up play and make the right, play and
he did last. Night that win last night felt like
a big. Deal you, know we've made a big deal
about how The reds this season haven't been swept in a. Series,
well if you don't get swept in a, series you're
not going to go through long losing. Streaks sometimes a good,

(01:29:15):
season you, know is you still grab wins here and
there when you're not at your. Best you still grab
wins here and there when you're not supposed. To you avoid.
Disaster last night was about avoiding. Disaster you, know it's
not the best, COMPARISON i, guess but it's like having
a scorer in basketball who can keep the other team

(01:29:36):
from going on the twelve nothing. Run he'll get you
a bucket or two and just keep you afloat for a.
While last night's win mathematically might not have been much
more than just one. Victory and, yeah there was the
impact on the standings as it relates to The cardinals
and The padres and The brewers and The mets and The, diamondbacks.
Etc but can you just imagine just as, fans how

(01:29:59):
we would feel to if they would have gotten swept
by The Red, sox and, swept maybe to a degree
in one of the more sobering manners, possible where like
all The Chase burns excitement has, been you, know squashed
for a little bit because he was awful the other,
night tipping his, pitches all that. Stuff they lose a

(01:30:19):
game that they had a lead in In game one,
yesterday then get, beaten and you're thinking about how they've
given back part of what they did when they won
six out of seven, series and you're thinking about them
going To philadelphia and how hard that's going to. Be
on the heels of getting swept by The Red, sox
they still have a tough task in front of him
against The. Phillies but that game last night just that

(01:30:40):
felt like that felt like a big. Deal it might
not have, been you, know by the time we get
to Early, october it could be a game that we
have totally, Forgotten but in real, TIME i just feel, like,
emotionally that game last night just seemed to matter a
little bit more then your quote Typical reds. Win we'll
see you know that that really only gets measured by

(01:31:01):
how they do moving. Forward but sometimes and sometimes you
got to avoid. Disaster sometimes you have to avoid getting.
Swept sometimes you have to figure out a way to
win even when you're not at your. Best sometimes you
need a guy who's trying to prove that he is
a real cornerstone of this team and a real big
part of this future moving. Forward have a big Moment

(01:31:23):
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Games it feels like that particular, event maybe not so
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in this country is not really taken. OFF i don't.
Know we have folks. Waiting let's talk to.

Speaker 6 (01:33:31):
Him.

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You thank good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Mon i'm glad The reds were able to rount that
malley last.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
Night sometimes in life and in, baseball you have to
rount the. Malle.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
YEAH i mean it is after five, o'clock SO i
will give you.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
YEAH i used, to way back in the day thirty years,
ago did some basketball on the radio For Northern Kentucky
university and up At Ashland. University on my, birthday this
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(01:34:10):
me that for a birthday, present he had a surprise for.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Me and he told me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
THAT i was entered into A hamburger eating contest at
halftime WHERE i had to eat A i won't say
the name of the fast, food but it was a
it was a. SINGLE i had to eat a single with, cheese, mayonnaise, lettuce,
tomato onion as fast AS i possibly.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
Can why did he dance to?

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
You he thought it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Would be, fun you know it was it was my
birthday and they probably had asked him to do, it
and he probably said, No BUT i know someone who.
Will and you think that you're a fast, eater right
Like i'm a college, Kid i'm in my early, twenties
and you think that you can eat a hamburger very.

(01:34:59):
Quickly it was one of the nastiest Things i've ever
done in my. LIFE i didn't EVEN i didn't even finish.
It i've got AND i know you've met Coach winstle
and and you know and From minkyu and the girls
team was sitting right where they could see me try
to do. This and needless to, say the bus strip

(01:35:20):
HOME i got made a lot of fun of THAT
i was a, quitter THAT i wasn't competitive, enough and,
uh but it. IS i get your thing with the
hot dog getting, Contest but it is.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
Amazing the ability to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Eat hot dogs that, FAST i can't even. Imagine AND
i just had to eat one.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
Hamburger, yeah, uh it might be, amazing and it might
be an enviable. SKILL i guess if you want to
inhale your food that, way it's just something that. WILL
i am ceed a wings eating contest once and wings
which to me like wings are easier to watch people
eat fast than than hot. DOG i amc a wings
eating contest at the ballpark once and watching people eat

(01:36:05):
as quickly as they possibly. COULD i, MEAN i didn't
want to say. IT i didn't want to tell, anybody
but LIKE i wanted to get, sick like watching people
do that for whatever, REASON i don't find it, entertaining
AND i find it kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
Gross that WAS i honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Was afraid that THAT i was going to that there
was going to be some some, blowback you, know WHILE
i was doing, this BECAUSE i DON'T i mean to
be to be truthfully, HONEST i don't even like like
tomatoes and onions and pickles and all that. Stuff SO i,
mean imagine the gag reflex of trying to eat it
fast and it being something that you don't naturally. Like,

(01:36:41):
anyway it, was it was bad AND i performed very.
POORLY i could not round a.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
Malley it was. Bad it's no good when you can't
round a. MALLEY i thank you for the phone.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
Call.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
Brian, uh, yeah, man you, know if that's your thing, tomorrow,
man knock yourself at. Noon they still do it At Coney,
Island LIKE i know very little about. IT i Know
Joey chestnut last year was not allowed to be in
it BECAUSE i guess he signed a deal with a

(01:37:17):
plant based hot dog company that was in competition With,
nathan's and so they didn't let him. Compete Like i'm
familiar with that. Backstory but watching, THAT i don't understand the.
ALLURE i don't understand the. Allure AND i understand even
less folks who are, like oh, YEAH i could EAT
i could eat fifteen hot dogs in two, Minutes like.

(01:37:39):
Awesome that's not SOMETHING i would be proud of or brag.
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Trapsheet and, yeah let's talk about The.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Bengals because in taking like a little bit over a
week to formulate these, rankings AND i did them with multiple,
layers and we can get into, that The bengals did
come out at number, one AND i don't think that was.
OUTLANDISH i didn't get any pushback From ravens Or steelers
fans out, there so, yeah it was pretty much widely

(01:39:21):
believed to. Be, yeah that makes a lot of sense
if we're looking at future power rankings over the next
two or three, years that The bengals actually come out on.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Top so you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
Apply your own little formula, here and part of the
formula is cap, affordability, salaries and. Headroom and WHERE i
was imagining you would get some pushback would be in
that particular, regard BECAUSE i think there's a lot of
people who look at The bengals the money tied up
into basically three players and, go, well they can't have
that much, flexibility and yet you don't view it that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Way, Yeah so WHAT i did for that component of
the long game index is THAT i just added up
the cap space in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty. Six,
now If i'm looking ahead two or three, years you could,
say why didn't you do twenty twenty, Seven but so
many contracts change over a two year period in THE,
Nfl SO i only looked at those two.

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
Years and that is exactly what that component.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Is so The bengals actually have the fifth most cap
space in the ENTIRE nfl twenty twenty five and twenty twenty.
Six AND i wrote in the last, paragraph like or
in the second to last, paragraph we don't, know like
Does Mike brown have this team operating like under its
own lower?

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
CAP i, mean that's kind of been the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Rumor you guys might have more inside or insight to
that THAN i. Do, HOWEVER i think even though The
Trey hendrickson situation is still looming over this organization right,
now you, know less than a month away from training,
camp we went into the offseason, thinking, oh, man are
they going to be able to keep both? Receivers what's
gonna happen with Te? Higgins and they've done. That they
Paid Joe. Burrow so there was a thought from so

(01:40:58):
maybe Doomsday bengal fans And bengals media members THAT i, know, like,
hey they might not let you know either of.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
These wide receivers come. Back are they going to Pay Joe?
Burrow they've done all, That.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
SO i think at this, point, yes they do, have
like you, mentioned so much money tied up in That big.
Three but it is AND i also wrote, this and
we can get to that in a.

Speaker 6 (01:41:17):
MINUTE i wrote that it is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
The best triplet in the ENTIRE, nfl and we don't
have to have. It the quarterback running, back wide, receiver, quarterback, receiver.
Receiver in the passing renaissance that we're, IN i think
matters more than anything.

Speaker 6 (01:41:32):
Else and The bengals obviously rank very high in that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
Too, well and throw into it BECAUSE i know you're
a Fan Chase, brown and, like we're going to get
closer and closer to like fantasy, drafts AND i know
this is not really a relevant part of the. Conversation
Chase brown is going to be a fantasy darling and
he should be because of what he did last.

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
Year. Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
So my second component is called flex and it stands
for a future lineup and. Expectations SO i tried to
rank all thirty two teams by What i'm calling blue
chip players that's part of that flex, component and THAT
i have for The bengals that they have five blue
chip Players Joe, Burrow Jamar CHASE. T. Higgins OBVIOUSLY i

(01:42:10):
Put Logan wilson in. THERE i think he's still one
of the top ten linebackers at his position And Chase,
brown AND i did this because it's future.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
Power, rankings The Long Game.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
INDEX i didn't include any quarterbacks who were over thirty
three years, old any skill position, players who were over
thirty years, old and any running backs who are over
twenty seven years.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
Old so that does kind of change things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
A little bit because there are some still you, know
quality players that are now into their. Thirties but if
we're looking way into the, future you, know it might
not be. There And i'm segueing that Because Chase brown
still on that rookie, contract still very, young you are
to me spot on with how good and how efficient
he was in terms of forcing this, tackles the yards after,

(01:42:53):
contact and probably his specialty was that, juice that ability
to hit those long. RUNS i already put him in
that blue chip player category and came out to The
bengals finishing ninth IN. Flex so their fifth IN, cap
ninth IN flax gives them a pretty well rounded start
to this long game. Index by having a fair amount

(01:43:14):
of money and then just having a good, LINEUP i
think those are, two you, know core elements to any
team being really good in THE.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Nfl SO i let's go this route. Too they've got
to fix their. Defense that goes without, saying and we
can discuss to what degree they have obviously a new defensive,
coordinator Maybe Schamar, stewart will finally play for him this,
Year Trey. Hendrickson we'll see what happens with. Him but
they there's still a lot of. Uncertainty and so what
would you say to someone who, says, look they they

(01:43:41):
may be poised to, contend but number one's a bit
ambitious because of all the uncertainty they have on the
defensive side of the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Ball, well, YEAH i mean we saw it last year
That Joe burrow truly had AN mvp caliber, season but
it got overlooked or he couldn't WIN mvp because The
bengals didn't make the playoffs because the defense let them
down so.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
Often, NOW i will say there were a lot of those.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Tight games that they, lost and in, general teams don't
just have a poor record in one court in one
score games back to back, seasons there were like some
field goals miss things like that That i'm not going
to bank on them ultimately. Doing and for as much
AS i think in the playoffs and in The Super,
bowl defense CAN i don't know if it wins, championships

(01:44:25):
but it is probably more integral than we like to.
Think in the regular. Season we've seen it and you
guys have certainly seen. It, firsthand you've had a front row.
Seat you can win games thirty four to thirty one
and thirty five to twenty. Eight AND i wrote in
this article that The bengals, offense regardless of how good
or how bad the defense, is can battle with any

(01:44:48):
team in football offensively and against any. Defense they can
face any elite level, defense a top ten, defense and
put up thirty. Points SO i Think i'm expecting a
little bit of a agression.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
Positively for The bengals. Defense Miles murphy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Should be able to play a little bit, Better Joseph
osai a year, older some of those young pieces in the,
SECONDARY Dj, Turner Jordan.

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
Battle guys like That Deston.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Hill i'm not expecting this group to be as porous
as it was last.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Season and this is a team and The, BENGALS i
don't think they.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Need to, have you, know that Super bowl caliber defense
that they had in twenty twenty. One they just need
to be not almost historically bad like they were last
season to just get in the. Playoffs and if that's the,
case they win nine ten eleven games they get. In
no team will want to See cincinnati because again not
to get to the, defense but because Of, Burrow higgins

(01:45:41):
And chase.

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TOO i was surprised too WHEN i formulated. This i'll
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Specifically here's WHY i was surprised because we read this
on the air and it's a fair. Grade but you
gave The bengals draft class to, see and SO i
think for a lot of folks just thinking long, term
like that kind of draft grade doesn't mess with long term.

Speaker 6 (01:46:09):
Success, NO i, mean and that's totally. True like THEY
i didn't factor.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
IN i MEAN i The Travis, hunters The ashton, gent
The Abdual. CARTERS i kind of factor those in a.
Little BUT i wanted this because it's in the present looking.
FORWARD i didn't want to like make put too much
of an emphasis on rookies that we haven't seen. Yet that,
YES i do a lot of work with the. DRAFT

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i know evaluate three hundred plus guys didn't love what
they did in the, draft BUT i still think the
last couple of draft, classes although The bengals have not
gotten those huge, Contributions yet from a lot of those
players really outside Of Chase, BROWN i still like the young.
Core maybe not the rookie, class but the guys in
year two and year three that are still, cheap that

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are still under twenty five or twenty six years.

Speaker 6 (01:46:59):
Old and, Again Joe burrow is not thirty. Five Kee
higgins is not. Old Jamar chase is entering the prime
of his.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Career the last component is a quarterback, component AND i
have The bengals ranked force in terms of just how
Good Joe burrow.

Speaker 6 (01:47:13):
Is relative to his.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Money that he's under a fifty million dollar capet this
year and next, year WHICH i think we tend to,
Believe oh, hey once you're on that second contract at,
quarterback you're exorbitantly. Expensive your team's, totally you, know strapped.
Financially to Get Joe burrow with a capet under fifty
million in TODAY'S nfl is one of the better bargains

(01:47:35):
in the entire. League so even if the rookie class
doesn't come to fruition in year, ONE i think there's
With burrow and enough younger, pieces along with the star
receivers And Chase, brown enough for this team to go
far into the.

Speaker 5 (01:47:49):
Playoffs you ranked The browns thirty. First have you gotten
a lot of pushback From cleveland?

Speaker 14 (01:47:53):
FANS i have, Not AND i think in, GENERAL i
mean talk about a draft LIKE i did not understand
What cleveland did.

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
Whatsoever as someone that likes to lean into the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Numbers, obviously And Andrew berry THEIR, gm you, Know Ivy,
league guy that apparently is big on the analytics of the.
Game they trade out from number. Two they pass On Travis.
HUNTER i understood that because the team's rosters so far,
Away but then to draft a running back early in round,
two and Then Dylan, gabriel who has a very weak,

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arm does not have mobility in round, three and Then
sanders in round.

Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
Five it was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
One of the weirdest draft philosophies That i've seen a
team make in. General and then if we're looking at long,
TERM i Think Miles garrett can still be a really good,
player and he just missed the cut for this article
to be considered a blue chip, player which he obviously still.
Is but beyond, him there's not a lot of needle

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movers on that. Roster Jerry, judy Maybe Mason, graham the
rookie plays really. Well the offensive line isn't quite as,
good SO i thought THAT i could get some pushback
BECAUSE i Know browns fans are passionate and everything that's
been sold to them over the last few years Of,
hey they're pushing for the, future but.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Then they Extend Miles.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
GARRETT i really didn't hear much On twitter From browns
fans with that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:18):
RANKING i enjoyed this, because as you, Know, chris it's
list season for people who covered THE, nfl and many
of them are mind, numbing some are really. Good very
few apply a formula you, did and it's even more
fun here when The bengals rank. HIGH i appreciate you doing.
This best of luck with the. Newsletter hopefully we can
do it. Again, well Thank. GLATT i appreciate that Anytime

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