7/8/26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/Chad Brendel

7/8/26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/Chad Brendel

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Here we Go the Bullweggers Show, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Chad Brendel in the driver's seat for today, Mos off somewhere,
I don't know. He had a date with Willie or something.

(00:41):
Willie said he had some brownies for him. Tarn I
was like, can we get some brownies? Regular browns? Yeah,
not not not the kind I'm looking for, but yeah,
I guess regular brownies. Yeah, thank you for choosing me.

(01:02):
Jed Brenda Bearkat Journal dot Com filling in today only
day this week, will be back Thursday and Friday, but
the next week plan accordingly, I'm here all five days
next week, Arran, You're not right, You're only here for
a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, I think I'm only here three.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
How am I supposed to make it to the end
of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'll get you to Wednesday, Okay, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I guess introduced Arran to a new sandwich spot today.
We love a good sandwich here, Alveo tering what would
you you didn't you weren't accustomed to the fact that
I was going to send you a menu with all
Italian ingredients.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes, I was like, What the hell am I looking at?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know, mortadella capa cola, uh sob which I think
is like is broccoli? Now, there was all kinds of
stuff in there that I figured probably is not something
you've ordered on a menu and Cincinnati before. Yeah, almost

(02:10):
one Google Translate. Did you like it?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, okay, wait taken have my sandwich at five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
There's something about a sandwich on fresh made for Kasha.
It's delightful that what Aran and I had for lunch.
A lot more exciting than following the Reds right now,
who fall to forty one and forty nine, eight games
under five hundred, sixteen and a half games out of

(02:40):
the division race. This thing's toast. If it wasn't our,
I mean, it just keeps falling further and further into
the abyss. The Fateful blow a two run shot by
Kyle Schwarber last night in the third inning, and the

(03:00):
Reds were down three to nothing against Zach Wheeler, and
that was pretty much it. Au Haanio Suarez ran into
one in the bottom of the seventh to make it
three to one, but the Phillies get it back at
the top of the eighth. Wheeler who is now nine
to one with a two twenty eight ERA somehow an
all star snub. Wheeler fanned fourteen, tied his career high

(03:26):
fourteen strikeouts. The Reds struck out eighteen times last night,
eighteen times. Four guys struck out three times last night, Suarez, Lowe, Stevenson,
Friedel all for three strikeouts. South Stewart struck out twice.

(03:57):
Suarez now hitting two oh seven, Freedo one seventy four.
Matt McClain one ninety in the last ten days. Matt
McClain has one more hit than me, meaning he has
one hit in the last ten days. Why are we

(04:18):
torturing Matt mcclan Like there is believing in somebody and
hoping that they turn it around. This guy's hitting one ninety,
like three hundred plate appearances. They think moving him to
center field is the answer. Got to keep his bat
in the lineup. This guy needs a reset. Nobody's doing anything.

(04:49):
I mean, that's that's kind of the phrase for this
entire May June into July. Nobody's doing anything. It's like
the meme with the guy with the stick poking, like
do something, Hello, do something, And if you look, it's

(05:14):
a lot of talk out fire Nick Krawl. Okay, sure,
great fire Nick Crawl. But once again, we've talked about
this with the Reds for a long time. If you're
gonna stay in house, which they've done for how long now,
Walt Jockety was really the last you know, out of

(05:35):
house outside the box front office guy in the Castelini regime,
everything else. You get rid of one guy, you bring
another guy in. You just move a guy up one
step up the food chain and rinse and repeat. You're

(05:57):
gonna fire, Nick Crawl, Great fire, Nickkrawl.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Like it.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
There's nothing left to defend what Nick Kral has done
to this organization from the top down. They're one of
the worst teams in Major League Baseball. Go look at
the actual stats, Go look at the advanced analytics, you know,
by actual stats, like the stats that we've been looking
at most of our lives, Hits, strikeouts, batting average er,

(06:24):
you know all of those things. They're in the bottom
quarter of baseball in just about every category across the board,
hitting and pitching, starters, relievers, you know, you name it.
They're terrible. They're a terrible baseball team right now. And

(06:47):
there's really nothing in the minor leagues behind them that
you can look at and say, Okay, you know, we've
got some help on the way here. We are now
in the middle of this era of players, Ellie Steer, McLean, Green, Lodolo.

(07:11):
You know, most of these guys are year three, year four,
working towards that six six year kind of window that
you have on rookie contracts. They've gotten worse, progressively worse,
especially this year. There's no help in the miners. I

(07:34):
don't even know what they have that is of trade
value unless you're gonna trade Ellie De la Cruz, Hunter Green,
Sal Stewart, Chase Burns. I think those last two guys
kind of have to be untouchable because they're still new,
They've still got a lot more control. But you know,

(08:00):
when when you look back, when they've done these selloffs before,
it was pretty clear Luis Castillo was gonna get you
quite a bit back, Jesse Winker was gonna bring you
a good return. Now they sold too late on all
those guys. Probably Johnny Quato was gonna get you a
good return. Todd Frazier was gonna get you a decent return.

(08:23):
Would have been more had they sold earlier. Again, eraldis
Chapman like that there were names that had value when
they've done these selloffs before. But what are you gonna
get for Spencer Steer? What are you gonna get for
Brady Singer? Nick Lidolo? You're not restocking your miners if

(08:54):
you decide to sell and hit kind of a semi
reset button here. I don't know what the plan is.
We got all week next week at the All Star
Break to get into kinda the next iteration of this.
But today the thought going forward that it's as simple

(09:17):
as if they fire Nick Krawl, everything's gonna fix itself. Well, no,
not if they just move a guy up from GM
to Director of Baseball Operations or whatever. You know, However,
the organizational structure works over at Great American Ballpark. If

(09:37):
you're gonna fire Nick Krawl, you better be ready to
clean house, to sweep the deck, to go find somebody
that works for the Brewers or the Rays or the Guardians.
There's a number of teams out there right now that

(09:59):
are taking a very similar payroll to the Reds and
turning it into success. They aren't talking about we want
to eliminate peaks and valleys. They're talking about we want
to compete for division titles. And I've said this a

(10:20):
lot this season, the job got harder because while the
Reds were spinning their wheels, the Brewers got better, the
Cubs got better, the Cardinals got better, the Pirates got better,
and the Reds spun their wheels. So now, if you're
bringing somebody in, but Baseball America just said the Reds
have the twenty fifth ranked farm system in baseball. It

(10:46):
doesn't get much worse than that. The big league team's
not good enough, the minor leagues aren't good enough. The
moves you've made have blown up in your face exponential. Yeah,
you're gonna get a JJ Blede who had a good month,
or and Nathaniel Lowe who had a little bit of

(11:09):
a run here. You're gonna hit a couple of those,
But those guys haven't had sustained success on the ones
they've hit. And then you've got Mike Mustakis and Jamer
Candelario and you know a host of others that they've
given these mid market deals to. They overpaid for average

(11:30):
to below average players and then got average to below
average results out of them. Ayu Hainio Suarez is he's hitting, Oh,
I don't know two oh seven this year as the
Cincinnati Red you don't think it would have been worth
the extra five million dollars a year that they shorted

(11:52):
Kyle Schwarber in their quote unquote realistic attempt to get
him to come to Cincinnati. Instead, he's stayed in Philly.
Now he's got thirty one home runs. Thirty one home runs.
It's insanely frustrating to watch the deterioration of this franchise

(12:16):
piece by piece. You know, it's one thing when everybody
understands there's a rebuild coming. We're moving off these guys.
We've acquired these new guys. We're going in a new direction.
We're gonna take our mix of guys that we've had
in the minors and and you know, add that to

(12:38):
whatever we get in the trades. That we're going to
restructure the team and we're going to have a new
core and we're you know, it's kind of the mid market,
low market thing to do, and there are teams that
do it really well. The Reds have not been one
of those teams, and it's getting increasingly worse. Watching this

(13:02):
team is painful. Eighteen strikeouts last night, eighteen it's almost
like when you see an all star caliber pitcher. We
joked about this a couple weeks ago, didn't we tearing
great pitcher on the mound. Bet the over on strikeouts.

(13:23):
Whatever you got, put the over on the strikeouts. Because
the Reds hitters can't seem to figure out a way
to draw a walk or slap the ball the other
way that it's go up there. Sometimes they don't like
what strike three last night to end the game was
a called third strike to end the game, and then

(13:44):
I think it was Freedom challenged it and lost bat
on your shoulders. Two strikes top of the ninth inning,
I think two runners on in a four to one game,
one big swing and we're going to extra innings and

(14:05):
instead watch strike three walk to the dugout, go home.
I want the Reds to matter so bad. Summer in
this town is so much fun when the Reds are good,

(14:28):
and right now there's just essentially nothing. We have a
lot of UC stuff to get to Big twelve Football
media days today. Kean Nixon is going to join us
in the five o'clock hour when he gets done with
all of his work assignments in Frisco, and we'll talk

(14:50):
some Bengals as well. Interesting quote from Willie Cologne this
morning on his radio show about the Bengal defense and
why he's bullish on them being better. And I think
and I Willie Cologne used to do a show on
Barstool that I had listened to for a while. He

(15:12):
since moved on. I haven't listened to him as much,
but I always thought he gave really good, fair insights
on the NFL and was very fair when talking about
the Bengals for the most part. And I think he's right.
The last couple of years his defense didn't have an edge.
The players they brought in the edge should be back

(15:33):
on the Cincinnati defense. So let's take a break, we
come back. We'll get this ball rolling. Phone lines are open,
Like I said, only one guest today, Keegan, in the
five o'clock hours. So anything you want to talk about,
give us call five, one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.
This is the Moegger Show, Cincinnati Sports Station, ESPN fifteen.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Thirty, Cincinnati's swck Y, Cincinnati hard radio station. Garan teed
Human ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I heard radio.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Oh yeah, clown.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Steal clown clown.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
When we come around, just get it going.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
At least we have something to look forward to tonight, Terry,
not the World Cup. The World Cup is off today,
which is feels like the first time in three weeks
we haven't had World Cup games to consume.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Which means we have nothing to distract the world. You
can see the Rids probably get their bus kicked on
national television.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, they generally do not get their butts kicked on
Chase Burns Day, and it is Chase Burns Day, so
you know, at least there's a little something to look
forward to today, But it's like the only day, every
fifth day you get Chase Burns Day, and that's really

(17:13):
about it they are now. So this is kind of
the interesting part in all of this. Right, generally these days,
because there's three wildcard spots, teams can sell that hope

(17:37):
even past the trade deadline into August, we're only three
games out. We're only two and a half games out
of the last wildcard spot. Like we're within reach of
getting this thing on track and getting to where we
want to. As we near the All Star break, this
team is eight games behind the third wild card spot,

(18:02):
the Miami Marlins. You know who else doesn't spend any money.
The Miami Marlins don't really spend any money. The Brewers
right in that same weight class as the Reds, the Pirates,
the Diamondbacks, four teams right there, just in the National

(18:23):
League that aren't exactly spending like the LA Dodgers, all
ahead of the Cincinnati Reds. But we get Chase Burns tonight.
How can you not be happy for that? I have
not seen yet the Phillies list TVD as their starter.

(18:44):
I expect TBD to have at least eleven strikeouts. Terry.
I have not watched TVD pitch this year. What I
do know is Chase Burns is ten to one with
a two forty e. It's pretty good, pretty pretty good.

(19:11):
We do have a lineup for the Reds in Phillies tonight.
De light Cruz at short, Stewart at third, bled Day
and left Suarez, the d H Steer at first, Marte
and Wright, Trevino in behind the dish Arroyo at second,
Friedol in center field, and as I mentioned, Chase Burns

(19:32):
ten and one, two forty e RA on the mound.
It's really hard to be ten and one on a
team that's eight games under five hundred. How about does
this was this weird to you? Tearan will Benson cleared
waivers and accepted his assignment to Triple A Louisville.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Has nobody informed him that this organization verly, very clearly
hates him. I don't understand that move, but I guess
maybe he feels more comfortable in an organization he's been
with for a long time and likes his chances to

(20:13):
get back to the big leagues if he's any good.
I certainly don't understand how he's not at least being
platooned in this outfield. You know, I'm just at a
loss with this franchise right now, just at a loss.

(20:37):
I don't I don't see a path forward. And it's
really frustrating because in this sport, in most sports, really,
but in this particular sport, if you're not gonna spend
you know, north of one seventy five two hundred million dollars,

(21:00):
you have to be very precise, very intelligent on your drafting,
your development, your execution of a plan for each guy
through the minor league system and up to being ready
for and joining the major league team. Is that a

(21:22):
hard job? Yeah, it's a hard job. It's not easy
to predict how eighteen to twenty two to twenty three
year olds are going to perform as they move through
each level. There's a lot of teams that are really
good at it. There's a lot of teams that are
really good at it, teams with money, teams that don't

(21:45):
have money, teams that kind of spend in the middle.
I mean, I think that's fair to consider that where
the Brewers are, they spend right in the middle. They
don't break the bank. When they have a guy like
Elie dela Cruise getting to that point where it's you know,
do we move him at max value and get every
last thing we can out of him to help the

(22:07):
franchise long term. They do that. They don't wait. They
don't wait on the hope of selling an extra five
thousand tickets next week because Ellie's there. The goal is winning.
The goal is developing your franchise, advancing your franchise year

(22:30):
over year, or getting to a really high level, getting
to that ninety ninety two to ninety three wins per
season range, and then figuring out how to stay there.
You know, if you're a Bruise fan, I'm sure you're
a little frustrated. They haven't had the type of postseason
success that I'm sure many Brewers fans would like for

(22:52):
them to have. But boy, that six month investment their
fans put into the regular season, that's a hell of
a lot more fun than this. That's a hell of
a lot more fun than looking at this thing and
trying to figure out where does this go next? Because

(23:15):
where it is right now is free falling off the
side of a mountain and your parachute won't pull sure
fire Nickkrawl. Great, Okay, I'm in, I'm in. Where do
I Where do I sign up? Where do I get
in line for the fire Nick Krawl petition? I'll sign it,

(23:41):
But you have to do something different. The Castellinis and
this ownership group have to sit down, look at each
other in a room and say we are not They're
business owners, right, That's what they want to tell us.
We're business owners. This is about the bottom line. We
are damaging our bottom line every day because we have
no put the right plan in place to figure this

(24:02):
dagone thing out. And it's our responsibility as stewards of
the franchise, stewards of the fan base, stewards of the organization.
To get somebody in here to run baseball operations or
be the general manager, whatever role you want to put
in that top spot of the hierarchy. That's not you know,

(24:26):
Bob Castellini, Phil Castellini, Go do it, Go figure it out.
Go bring somebody in that's got ideas that have worked
somewhere else, that's got a fresh plan, that's not just Hey,
this is how the guy before me did it. This
is how I'm gonna do it. The guy after me
will do it a similar way too. This is what

(24:47):
Banana Bob wants. It's not working. It's annoying, very annoying.
Let's take a break. We'll get to a little Brendan

(25:07):
Soresby and some of the information that you knew this
Sorsby thing would be a topic again today with big
twelve media days yesterday and today, So let's get to
a little bit of that to close out our number
one more after this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health PN
fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Rolling right along Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Chad Brendle sitting
in from o Eggar today and the Brendan Soorsby Saga
Harry's on more coming out today. As as you had
to anticipate there would be from Big twelve media days,

(26:11):
it's the first chance that everybody's really been in one
place at the same time. You had the Scott Dylan
questioned fiasco yesterday. If you haven't seen that, just look
it up on social media or somebody that I guess
is very loosely connected to the Texas Tech media tried

(26:34):
to have his gotcha moment with brett Or Mark. Now
I thought brett Or Mark was too nice to him.
I would have gone a little harsher with the response
to what was a terrible question from Dylan, But you know,

(26:55):
such as life, Big twelve media Day is ongoing. And
then on top of that, Ross Dellinger put out a
report earlier today that there is an inquiry by the
nc DOUBLEA that was sent to Cincinnati a letter of inquiry.
Cincinnati responded. They said, we have had continuous conversations with

(27:19):
the NCUBA since the initial reports related to impermissible sports
wagering began. As we have stated before, we do not
believe any athletics official or staff member was aware of
any impermissible sports wagering. That was on top of later
in the day reporting from our guy Justin Williams, who

(27:39):
I am confirmed now, Tarin, we are confirmed that Justin
Williams will join us at four point thirty. Let's go,
so we'll get to talk to Justin. He's not in Frisco,
he's in LA. So we got a lot of Brendan
Soresby stuff to get to. But Brendon and Soresby and

(28:00):
Justin's reporting through court records had a He lived in Kentucky,
lived in Northern Kentucky. He had a bet three sixty
five count account in Northern Kentucky that he used exclusively

(28:23):
to provide his cover Taran. He used that account exclusively
to bet on UFC and events that were not impermissible
by the NCUBLEA that is someone that knows what they
are doing is wrong. He had asked you see multiple

(28:44):
times in twenty twenty four and again in twenty twenty five,
just to be clear, I'm allowed to bet UFC, right,
I'm allowed to bet NASCAR. I'm allowed to bet horse
racing because those are not NCAA sanctioned sports. Yes, you're
allowed to bet those things. So he had an account
that he kept specific in northern Kentucky where he only

(29:05):
bet those things and none of the other things. So
if anything ever came up, he could have this account
that's under the name Brendan Soresby, under his email, connected
to him, connected to his bank account, that he was
using to only bet on things that were allowed by
the NCAA. If that's not a smoking gun, I don't

(29:26):
know what is. We'll get to more of that as
we get through today. Let's go to the phones and
talk to my guy, Mike. Mike, how the heck are you?

Speaker 8 (29:43):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (29:44):
They're going?

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Is?

Speaker 9 (29:44):
It's not too bad?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's it's it was. Orlando was gross last week and
it felt like it was one hundred and seven every
day in Orlando last week. It's like eighty five eighty
six today. So it's warm, but it's not too bad.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Sure at the beach, I don't want to hear about.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Let me guess you had a Duke Burger last night too, We're.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
I had a really good, uh Portuguese pie last night.
As a mile of fact.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know what you know what I made last night, Mike?
I made I made dirty cabbage. You ever had dirty cabbage?

Speaker 9 (30:23):
Yes, and that I haven't thought about that all too.
That is the bomb.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
And you know what I added to it and made
it a little different, some charred and dewey sausage mixed
in there.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
Oh big boy.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, it was. It was outstanding. It almost I forgot
how much water comes out of the cabbage when you
when you uh steam it, and so it was almost
like a stew. We even we had it out of
a bowl. It was almost like a like a cabbage
steam cabbage soup. But it was awesome. I had two
bowls and I was so full.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
Aaron, you would have loved that if your boy would
have thought of you, you know, but he didn't.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean we we ate most of it.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Well, Terrans, just a symbol, right, Terran.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I mean, come on, I brought him.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I brought him Mike. I said, I sent we got
Italian like real Italians. No, we got real Italian sandwiches today.
I sent him the menu and he almost sent me
back like I can't. I don't know any of these words. Mortadella,

(31:35):
capa cola, gabba ghoul like you know, so pro setta
on fresh made ficasha.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
Oh my Lord Jesus, you ate it, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I take Terror, I take Terric Tarran immensely.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
Give me Karen some Mediterranean style food.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
That's cool, Taran, although I could eat some DEEPD chicken.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Lvers are about no.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know what I mean. Monday, Mike, you're like this.
One Monday, I made uh, crispy chicken caesar salad sandwiches,
christy chicken caesar salad. Yeah, and then I took the romaine,
cut up the remain and put it in a homemade
caesar dressing and use that as the lettuce on the

(32:28):
chicken sandwich, the fried chicken sandwich.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
Bro, you are something. Hey, oh that sounds so good. Hey,
have you ever been to either one of you guys
ever been to that joint down on Vine Street. I
keep seeing it on Triple d Off and on called
the Sacred Beast.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I have not been the Sacred Beast yet. I've heard
it's very good.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
Oh Man, Guy Fieri just and Jeff and Ruby also
goes there. It's the best chicken he's ever had in
his life. But they make a burger down there with
a it's almost like an oju u stipping. So you
gotta go down there, you gotta go try that out. Yeah,
because the Reds are nothing to talk about.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, they stink. The Reds stink, and there's no there's
no hope on the horizon. No, at least the last
time they stunk, it was like, okay, but Hunter Green's coming,
and Elie de la Cruz is coming, and Matt McClane's coming,
and they made all these trades that they got a
bunch of young guys back in return, and now we're

(33:32):
in the middle of that experiment. Mike. They stink and
there's nothing coming next. It's bad. It's bad, man, it
is bad.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
I bet you If Matt mcclan got traded to a
Southern California team which is whorried from he did three
fifty b the MVP.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like the problem is, Mike. If somebody called on Matt McLean,
the Reds would say, what are you gonna offer? And
they would say a bucket of batting practice balls and
a pouch of big lead chew and the other team
would say that's too much.

Speaker 9 (34:09):
Yes, and throw crawl and thro the let's.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Not get carried. How about just keep Bryan Hayes. Can
you take him?

Speaker 9 (34:20):
Yeah? Well, you know, when you think about it, that
was the most bizarre thing that I think I've ever
seen a major league team do.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Mike. It was like a It was like a final
peace trade, right, Like, Okay, we're stacked, and we just
need that one that one thing that's gonna make you know,
that gold glove, hot corner guy that we can we
can bat him down in the order and we can
hide him. We got power and left and right and
first and catcher. We just need that that one little thing. No,

(34:53):
it was a team that had eight other needs and
they took they fixed something that wasn't broken. And and
on top of that, what's South Stewart's position?

Speaker 9 (35:05):
Exactly. That's what I meant to bring that up to
you about a month ago. And then I thought, well,
maybe I got this wrong. Maybe it was really a
third base. Yeah. I heard an interview with Manny Machado,
who's kind of his mentor, and he said, yes, that
was a third baseman.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So they blocked their best prospect.

Speaker 9 (35:26):
This is the s But Chad, I got to tell
you something, Brow, I'm getting really worried. I'm not I'm
thinking that you see, football is almost equivalent to the
Cincinnati Retch. I am really worried about, you see football,
because it is becoming a joke.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
What what exactly has become a.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
Joke because they never really do anything. They would never
make strides. I mean, what what do they do?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
So they were in the playoffs four years ago? Okay, yeah,
Luke Luke left right, So there's gonna there's gonna naturally
be a reset. They were worse than expected in year
one three three wins, five wins, seven wins. They've increased
the wind totals in each of the three years. I'm
not saying they're going to be good. I'm saying that

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there has been a sign of building a foundation in
a new conference that they they left where they were
the big dog in the American they had to step
up a level. They didn't necessarily ace the dismount. Okay,
but let's at least let and you might be right.
This is what I'll say. You might be right, But

(36:39):
let's at least let this year play out and see
before we make a rush judgment that they're they're lost
in the abyss. Is that fair to you?

Speaker 9 (36:49):
No, it's not, because you're sounding just like we talk
about the Reds. We'll wait, we'll waste on next year, Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
The Reds have sucked for thirty years.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
Yeah, in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Was in the playoff four years ago. That's not ancient history. No,
it's a new staff, it's a new conference. I'm not
completely sold by any I'm not saying this is a
nine or ten win team this coming season, but I'm
at least going to give them a chance. And if
they're not good, then absolutely that conversation is fair. I

(37:28):
think it's just premature until we get the results.

Speaker 9 (37:32):
Now it's Tickle, It hasn't. Fickle kind of crapped out
that Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
He's been terrible. They just can't fire him because he's
got a huge contract.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
But he's been pretty bad then, right, pretty bad? Yes,
absolutely by Wisconsin standards. I wonder why that happened. It's
so weird.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I can tell you exactly what. I can tell you
exactly why. And I got to go so that. But
they were the Big Ten West, remember Purdue, like Minnesota.
It was basically Wisconsin and Iowa. Every year one of
the two went to the Big Ten championship game and
then played in a Great Bowl Game. When the West

(38:16):
Coast schools entered the Big Ten. The divisions went away,
so now they're playing Ohio State and Penn State and
you know, and Oregon and USC. And they went from
one of the easiest paths in college football, which was
the Big Ten West, which was terrible, to not one
of the hardest paths in college football. And they weren't

(38:40):
ready for it. They were not. Like I think if
you would have told Luke this was gonna happen before
he took the job, I think he'd have waited for
a different job. He still would have took a different job.
I don't think he would have took that one, because
that job went from, you know, a pretty easy path
to oh no, what did I do? Real quick?

Speaker 9 (39:00):
Every time I talk to you, you teach me something.
So you great show and I'll keep listening.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Thanks my appreciating Keara.

Speaker 9 (39:06):
Don't cut me off to the internet.

Speaker 8 (39:09):
It'll leave me on the last nite.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
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Speaker 2 (40:17):
Here we go our number two since that he's ESPN
fifteen thirty. Chad Brindle in promo, Eggar, thank you for
choosing me. Red's fall four to one last night, strikeout

(40:39):
eighteen times season high.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yikes.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Kyle Schwarber with essentially the game deciding to run home
run in the third inning. This offense has been abysmal
at times. Last night one of those times, and essentially
down three to nothing in the third with the way
Zach Wheeler was pitching, felt like they were down twenty

(41:11):
one to nothing, felt like a three touchdown deficit. It
was funny. There's a clip going around the audio from
Jeff Brantley last night talking about Kyle Schwarber's home run
as it was happening and saying three to zero count,

(41:32):
Schorober will swing here, And then I was up late,
not up too late. I actually got to bed at
a decent hour last night, but I was watching Sports
Center as I was getting ready to nod off, and
the Sports Center stat directly contradicted kind of what Brantley

(41:53):
was saying, that Schwarber will swing at anything. Kyle Schwarber
in his career has two hits with a three strike
count or three ball count three to zero count. He
does not swing three balls, no strikes. I'm guessing that
was in the Red scouting report. Just throw him a strike,

(42:15):
He's not going to swing at it. It'll be three
to one or three and one. But they threw him
a meatball so fat. It was basically a batting practice pitch,
and he deposited it in the Moondeck. Crazy Chase Burns

(42:37):
on the hill tonight for the Reds as they try
to get a win. We'll see how that goes. Line
up is out de la Cruz, Stewart, Lede Suarez, Steer, Marte,
Trevino Arroyo and friedol No. Matt McLain tonight, mercifully, he

(42:57):
has one hit in his last ten games. Oh for
his last seventeen batting average down to one ninety. It's
not going well for Matt McLean in twenty twenty six.
Chase Burns on the hill. He gives the Reds a shot.

(43:18):
Every five days the Reds have a shot to win,
is kind of how it feels right now. In the
other four days, probably gonna lose. We'll see if Burns
can get them another one tonight and move to eleven
and one on the season. Let's get to some Bengals
training camp just a couple weeks away. We've got We've
got a couple of things here. The athletic did they

(43:42):
They went to their their beat reporters for each team
and did kind of one big question as we head
into camp and Paul Danner, Junior, esteemed colleague and friend
of this show his Bengals. One big question was will

(44:04):
there be another veteran addition on defense? I think we
all agree could probably use at least one more linebacker,
could probably use one more veteran in that cornerback room.
You feel good about your two starters at corner Dax
Hill and DJ Turner. There's not a lot behind them
in terms of guys that have performed at an NFL level,

(44:27):
much less a high NFL level for a team that
has very high aspirations. The other one, of course, being
linebacker Dimitrius Knight and Barrett Carter are really, you know,
the two main guys in that room. They both had
rather unspectacular rookie seasons. Al Golden expecting a big jump

(44:51):
from those two guys, but it makes sense that one
of the big Bengals' biggest questions is one of the
questions we had going into the offseason that the Bengals
did not address in either free agency or in the draft. So,
you know, we'll be watching as teams get into camp,

(45:13):
you start to see cuts happen. Maybe there's a you know,
a name or two that's still on the market that
doesn't have a team yet going into camp that will
have an eye on. But I think very fair from
Paul that one of those two spots is at least
one of those two spots is going to need additional

(45:37):
help to handle a seventeen game season. The Steelers pretty standard.
I think it could go a lot deeper than this,
But how does the quarterback room shake out behind Aaron Rodgers?
That feels like a next year question, doesn't it? Because
they have Aaron Rodgers, And if Aaron Rodgers is healthy,

(46:00):
the number two quarterback in Pittsburgh doesn't matter. And if
Aaron Rodgers gets hurt, the number two quarterback in Pittsburgh
probably isn't going to be good enough to amount to anything.
So does it really matter if it's Drew Aller, if
it's Will Howard, if it's Mason Rudolph. None of those

(46:22):
guys are winning anything big in Pittsburgh. I don't believe.
I think that's a question we know in terms of
the relation to twenty twenty six. Maybe if you're looking
to twenty twenty seven, you would like to have whoever
the heir apparent is to Aaron Rodgers on the roster
right now, But I don't think it's I don't think

(46:47):
that's much of a question for the twenty twenty six season.
If it gets to QB two, the Steelers are in
trouble Cleveland Browns, who's going to be the quarterback? Jackson
proposes it could actually be Deshaun Watson. He hasn't played
since October of twenty twenty four, and there is expected

(47:13):
to be a battle there. Should Or Sanders is the
other guy in the mix. He didn't really outplay Watson
through the offseason program, so they're going to be entrenched
in a battle going into camp. I don't think that

(47:36):
bodes well for a team that just traded their lynch Pin,
best player in the NFL, best defensive player in the NFL,
and Miles Garrett. Your defense is going to be significantly
weakened without Garrett. And now we still don't have any

(47:56):
clue going into late July or mid July who the
quarterback is going to be in Cleveland. The Ravens one
was interesting. It's centered around Nomindee made Bouque and whether
he is going to return from a neck injury that

(48:20):
saw his season end in twenty twenty five. In Week two,
he had next surgery in April. It sounds like there's
still kind of counting on him for this season. Jesse
Menner said, the situation will quote unquote clear itself up.
I don't know that I would feel comfortable if you're

(48:41):
the Ravens counting on a guy that just had next surgery.
A couple months ago. This division is right there for
the Bengals to take it, right there for the Bengals
to take it. They've had a great offseason, great, I

(49:02):
don't I don't think that's even really in question. Once
the Dexter Lawrence trade happened, happened outside of maybe linebacker,
they went out and they attacked everything that was that
was on the table that needed help for twenty twenty six.

(49:24):
And they're in a division where the two best teams
are the two biggest competitors, both change coaches. One has
a what is Aaron Rodgers now forty three, forty two,
forty three years old. The Ravens have Lamar and I

(49:46):
think Jesse Minner is going to be a really good
NFL coach. I just don't know if it's going to
be in year one. The door is open, and what
do the Bengals have to do to kick down that door?
They have to be better on defense. Willie Cologne on
his radio show this morning, I thought, had a very
interesting comment about the Bengals and what the defense could

(50:09):
look like in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 11 (50:14):
It comes down to Zach Taylor really coaches September like
it's December. They have to start out a lot faster.
This team was six and eleven last season, and sure
it was because of the health of Joe Burrow. He
fell the way back out there, but it simply wasn't enough.
They just have to start faster. And even listen, Joe
Burrow's been hurt and if he gets hurt again, there's
no excuse for this team. Because of the talent and

(50:37):
because of the new defense they do that they have
that they should go through muddy waters until Joe gets
back again. They should still be able to compete and
put forth a solid effort and win games because of
their current roster, Joe Burrow the end allb all.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
I get that, but.

Speaker 11 (50:52):
Right now, the Cincinnati Bengals have done enough in the offseason. Well,
they should win some games on the road to scare
some people at home. So I comes down to Zach Taylor.
There's no more excuses about we'll figure it out, We'll.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Make it work.

Speaker 11 (51:05):
What kind of by time if Joe Burrow gets hurt,
now they got to come out swinging. They have to
come and play with an edge that scares people right
now because we know they can score points. And now
with Desha Lawrence and a host of other guys. Man,
they they on paper, they look scared, they look legit,
but they have to prove it. And so I'm I'm
kind of like, all right, bingis man, we've been We've

(51:26):
been watching a lot of bad football for a long time.
It's time to show up and deliver. This has to
be Zach Zach Taylor's coming out party.

Speaker 8 (51:33):
Man.

Speaker 11 (51:33):
He has to kind of put the the Nate Sayers
the rest and show up and get it done.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I think the attitude of the defenses is where this
needs to start, because I think this was a defense
that was just trying to hang by a thread for
the last two years. Where was the intimidation, Where was
the things that makes the defense great that they were

(52:00):
just hoping to be in the right place at the
right time. You add Dexter Lawrence, you had Boye Mafe,
and you add Brian Cook. And Brian Cook isn't going
to say a whole lot. He's more of a silent enforcer.
But you've now got an enforcer at the back end

(52:22):
of your defense. You've now got what the Bengals hope
is a dominant defensive tackle. You added a young athletic
edge rusher, you added pieces that should give this defense

(52:43):
much more of an edge, much more of a belief
when they go out there every Sunday that they can
get the stops necessary to hold the other team in check.
Not just what we've talked about here for a couple
of year years. And I know Mo stands up pretty
strongly against this, and I get it. I agree with

(53:05):
his premise. Being middle of the road isn't really gonna
get this team where it wants to go. You know,
is it a reasonable expectation that you want this team
to go from bad as in one of the worst
defenses in NFL history to take a step to middle

(53:28):
of the pack to help Joe Burrow. Yeah, that should
help Joe Burrow. But don't you want your defense playing
with some nasty, playing with some edge, playing with some swagger,
looking like Jamar Chase Joe Burrow in the offense a
little bit. It's like the odd couple. The offense went
out there expecting to score a touchdown, the defense went

(53:51):
out there praying to hold somebody to three instead of six.
It was too completely different worlds. And if this Bengals
team is going to get back where it needs to be,
there definitely needs to be swagger. There definitely needs to

(54:11):
be attitude coming from Al Golden's group in twenty twenty six.
On paper, it looks like they added guys that should
give them that type of edge. Until we see the
game start in September, that's what we've got to go on,
and I think it's at least a step in the

(54:34):
right direction. All right, let's take a break more act
to this. Justin Williams in about ten minutes to talk
about some of the new Brendan Soresby stuff right here
in Cincinnatis, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2 (55:21):
Rolling right along hour number two. Justin Williams coming up
here in just a few minutes. Tarin, I'm still caught
up on that. The the one big question for the
Ravens as are they going to medically clear a guy
that had neck surgery? In April. He made a bouquet,

(55:42):
is good, but don't you have to assume he's not
going to be available until he maybe is he broke
his neck, broke his freaking neck, he have surgery in April,
like maybe the doctors ps are glowing. But if that's

(56:04):
your your biggest question, I feel like the answer is
probably not to begin with, and if you get him back,
I would have to assume you're not gonna see a
guy of next surgery in April and be on an
NFL field competing in the trenches in September. Would that

(56:25):
be something more likely for the end of October, maybe
early November. You're getting to the halfway point, and you
try to to boost your presence up front with the
guy that's now fully recovered. How can you how can
you properly work out I guess would be my question.

(56:50):
It was reading through that last night and it just
it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me
that they are kind of banking that much on something
that from afar looks like an exercise in futility. I'm

(57:15):
not rushing that guy back, especially he's twenty eight. If
I'm counting on him maybe being part of my plans
long term, wouldn't that be severely diminished if you bring
him back to early and something else happens and then
you're talking that's probably it for the rest of his

(57:37):
professional career. Seems wild to me. Let's talk about our
favorite topic this summer, Brendan Soresby with Justin Williams of
the Athletic. Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
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Speaker 8 (58:01):
Welcome, welcome.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
As well.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
That here, that's well done.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Let's go out to the phone Vegas, not Frisco, Texas,
Las Vegas, Nevada, to talk to our first guest of
the afternoon, Justin Williams from the Athletic. Justin the did
the Athletic get the dates wrong on the Monster Energy
Big twelve media days or what did that? What that
are you doing in Vegas?

Speaker 12 (58:41):
You know, doing doing some work meetings out here, uh
hundred and ten in the shade and you know, just uh,
I wasn't able to make it to Frisco, but Chris
Vanini was was there today and ended up he and
I working a little bit of news.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
I think you and I are going to discuss here.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
We are going to discuss a little bit of news. Uh.
The Brendan Storesby news cycle took a like a week break.
Well it was nice. I had to go to Orlando
for volleyball Nationals. Took a break for a couple of days. Uh.
We knew that this was going to kick back up
today obviously yesterday and today. But what what new has

(59:22):
come to light in the journey of Brendan Soresby. Uh,
from Cincinnati to Texas Tech now to potentially the NFL.

Speaker 12 (59:32):
Yeah, so you know, yesterday Texas Tech was was that
big twelve media days there in Frisco? Today Cincinnati went
Is that a miss?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Should those two have gone on the same day?

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (59:45):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, I'm sure I can't
remember when they kind of scheduled this.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
But knowing look, if nothing.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Else, Brett or Mark loves loves, you know, a flourish loves.

Speaker 12 (59:58):
The narrative, and so I am kind of surprised that
they didn't demand that both those.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Teams be there on the same day.

Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
But you know, maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
This this is just a way to kind of spread
it out over over for both days.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
I'm not sure, but my.

Speaker 12 (01:00:11):
Colleague Chris Vanini talked to Scott Sadderfield today and you know, basically,
Scott Sadderfield talked about towards the end of last season
that there were multiple teams, you know, in his words,
reaching out to Brendan Soresby about getting the portal, essentially
tampering with him, and you know, called out Texas Tech
by name as one of them. And obviously this comes

(01:00:33):
in light of all of the other Brendan Soorsby saga.
So you know, Chris wrote about that. We also reached
out to Brendon Sorosby's agent, who claimed that this did
not happen, and also have a little bit of more
information about kind of the history because you know, of
the many subplots here, one of them which has bubbled.

Speaker 8 (01:00:53):
Up the past couple of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Days is what did Cincinnati know about.

Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
Brendon Sorosby's gambling. You and I have talked about this,
you know, a couple times over.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
The past couple of months. It seems like, you know,
another one of the storylines that we kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:01:05):
Thought was maybe dead and moving on has.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Now bubbled back up with a letter of inquiry from
the NCAA to Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
So all of this is kind.

Speaker 12 (01:01:13):
Of touched on in the story with coach Centerfield accusing
Texas Tech of tampering with soreersby the agent denying that,
all while trying to still kind of get some clarity
on what exactly the University of Cincinnati knew about Brendan
Sorosby's gambling while he was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
There with the Bear Kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You had an interesting tidbit today in your reporting that
I think is very telling. I'm interested in your take
on it. You have uncovered that Brendan Soresby had a
was it bet three sixty five?

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
He had a bet three sixty five account in Kentucky
where he was living God's Country in Kentucky where he
was living, that he used strictly for betting on UFC
and events that were allowed by the NCAA. Whatever three
hundred bets in a year, I think you said, And

(01:02:06):
he again went to Cincinnati and in twenty twenty five
and double checked I'm allowed to bet on this, then
open the account continued to place bets on it. Doesn't
that show a pattern of like I know that I
need to have like an alibi kind of and here's

(01:02:26):
my alibi. I signed up with my own name. I
was placing bets on things I was allowed to bet
on here in Kentucky, and I cleared it with compliance.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Yeah, it's a good question.

Speaker 12 (01:02:38):
And obviously, like I have not spoken to Britain's sorts
about this, so I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I don't want to speak for him. This is kind
of me speculating.

Speaker 12 (01:02:45):
I don't know that it was an alibi, just as
much as you know, if we've learned anything from Masaka,
it's that Britain sort of be liked to gamble, and
so you know, if he could gamble legally, which he
was able to do on UFC and on NASCAR, like
he was going to do that, and obviously he was
going to go above and beyond and you know, do
things that were whether they were illegal or just impermissible

(01:03:07):
by the NCAA, he was going to do those things too.
But yeah, I don't I don't know that I even
view it as an alibi.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Just as much as like I don't have to jump
through any hoops, you.

Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
Know, or or yeah, like this what I can.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Do and and you know, know that no one's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Going to be looking over my shoulder and look, this
is this is something I've talked to a few people
over the past couple of months. Not uncommon for college
athletes to, you know, to gamble on UFC or gamble
on NASCAR, because they do know the rules. And I
think it's pretty clear at this point.

Speaker 12 (01:03:38):
Brendan Sorosby knew the rules. I knew what he could
and could have bet on, and so I think, yeah,
this is one of those things where you know, he
knew he could do this, he knew he didn't have
to kind of hide or do any workarounds. So he
bet on NASCAR and UFC and he did a lot.
But then obviously, you know, we also know that he
was he was doing a lot of other things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Did he play the ponies?

Speaker 12 (01:04:01):
I you know, I've heard that he liked to go
to the casino in Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
Again, also not illegal.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
If if you're other rage, you can go and play
blackjack at a casino. Again, also not totally uncommon for
a college athlete to do that. Uh, we know he
was betting on Look, if you're betting on the Nathan's
Hot Dog eating contest.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
And Turkish soccer games, like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I wouldn't be shocked if he was going to Queenlan
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Did he have any connection to Kerkcrease?

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Look, this is this is a little bit behind the curtain.
But my editor at The Athletic, who is not from
Cincinnati is just always kind of flappercast in it, like, wait,
is this another like kind of fraud CD college sports
story involving a very recent Cincinnati athlete, But they're they're

(01:04:53):
actually not the same, like.

Speaker 12 (01:04:55):
Kind of kind of just dumbfounded it, like, yeah, somehow
all roads lead to Cincinnati, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Look, I mean it's one of those things that, like again,
if you're an outsider, you look at it and you go,
you guys didn't know anything. How did you not know anything?
There's a Nigerian print scam going on right under your nose.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
To speak to sourceby specifically, we can't get intocrease if
you want, but I do think, like, look clearly, and
this piece has been reported on previously. Cincinnati had some
awareness that Brendan Sorosby was interested in gambling, right because
the prohibit Trip.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
In tween twenty four reported this piece.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
He went again in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
There there is a.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Difference between you know, knowing that someone is betting on
things that are allowed, and then maybe the extent that
he was betting on things that are not allowed. You
could one can certainly make the argument like, well, Cincinnati
didn't necessarily dig in, you know, super deep to see
if there is something else going on. Okay, maybe fair.
I think the response.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
From any college sports coach.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Would be, look, sometimes, you know, you don't necessarily go
digging into these eighteen to twenty two year old wise,
because who knows what you're gonna find. But yeah, you know, Cincinnati.

Speaker 12 (01:06:14):
Continues to maintain, has maintained the whole time they did
not know of any impermissible wagering that was going on.
The sense I get is that this letter of inquiry
from the NCAA is kind of a formality, But look,
it's not surprising that the NCAA reached out, and I'm
interested to kind of see what.

Speaker 8 (01:06:31):
Comes of this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
So far, this has all been very focused on Soresby.
It'll be interesting to see, if, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:06:37):
Moving forward, does anything actually come of this inquiry into
Cincinnati and them knowing anything, because the school has been
very adamant you know that they didn't have any knowledge.
No one in an official capacity had any knowledge of
the extent of sorsby gambling.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
If you're Cincinnati and I know this is weird to say,
but don't you want this, Like, don't you want this
the inquiry to happen and the NAA to go. Now,
we looked, we dug through everything that we could dig through,
and Cincinnati's clean.

Speaker 12 (01:07:07):
Yeah, if you truly have nothing to hide, and that
you know, based on my reporting, that seems to be
the case, then yes. You know you've talked.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I know you've talked about this on the air, like
how how many.

Speaker 12 (01:07:19):
Gambling education classes or whatever that these athletes go through?

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
Like it's a ton.

Speaker 12 (01:07:25):
And so if you have documented, Hey, we explained to
rent and Sourcing every other one of our athletes ten
times over what you can and can't bet on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
And we have documentation of Yes, maybe he did come and.

Speaker 8 (01:07:37):
Ask about this and we, you know, explained to him
the rules.

Speaker 12 (01:07:39):
Yes you can bet on UFC, but here's what you
can't bet on. If you can show all of that stuff,
then yeah, I think you're right. Cincinnati should probably welcome.
You know, if you have nothing in your no skeletons
in your closet, then you will kind of want to
welcome the NCAA and have them, have them look around
and again, unless something changes, they that's certainly kind of
the messging to this point has been clearly something was

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going on. You can argue whether or not they should.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Have known it was happening, but since Nattie has has
maintained that they did not know that impermissible waygream was happening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Are we getting close to a point and I don't
know how it will work, but are we getting close
to a point where there's like private investigators involved with
the NCAA like there is in the NFL. Like in
the NFL, Boy, before you get drafted, they know who
your girlfriend was when you were thirteen years old, They
like they know everything about you. Are we getting to

(01:08:33):
a point where there's so much money now involved with
college sports that that's something like that might be on
the table here not too distant future.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
I think it's possible, especially when you're talking about, you know,
a player of Sorosby's capper, where you know, a high
profile quarterback that stands to make four to five million dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:08:51):
A year, and that's why you know, there's also been
some of this talk about these like what is it
the legal tampering periods, which yeah, something that kind of
happens in the NBA, and they're now talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
There a way to do this, and yeah in.

Speaker 12 (01:09:04):
College sports where before they actually enter the portal, you
can kind of have you know, that would allow teams
because the challenge, as you know, is the portal open
on January second. Brinton Soursby committed to Texas Tech on
January fourth. Like it is, it is speeded, and you're
trying to get these athletes to commit as quickly as possible,
and so you don't necessarily maybe have the time that

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you want to do your due diligence. If there is
some way, I don't think it's going to happen with
you know, maybe your backup linebacker that you're pulling out
of the portal, but there's some way with these top
level guys that it can give schools a chance to
maybe do a little.

Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
Bit more due diligence.

Speaker 12 (01:09:41):
I certainly, you know, this is a great example of
why that would be something that I think teams would
be interested in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
The question is would they have even found this though?

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Right like, and it's it's a great point. That's why
you know, Cincinnati has maintained they didn't know. Look, part
of the many court documents that that came out in
all of this was when Brendan Sarsby went into the.

Speaker 12 (01:10:03):
Rehab facility in Arizona. There's documented from you know, people
in the clinic that basically said, yeah, he felt he
had to lie about this, which you know, is matches
up with when when you're an addict, what do you
do you lie about to hide it from people? Yeah,
I've talked to people.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
That you know, were within the program at Cincinnati or
even at Texas Tech. They didn't know about this.

Speaker 12 (01:10:24):
Again, you can make the argument like, well, should they
should they have done a little harder.

Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
Okay, maybe that's a.

Speaker 12 (01:10:29):
Separate question, but I think it's pretty clear Storesby wasn't,
you know, as much as he was betting, He wasn't
necessarily like broadcasting it. And it certainly seems like he
did a pretty good job of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Keeping his you know, addiction, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:10:46):
Under wraps and kind of out of sight, at least
from the people that were involved in his football career.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Is there a way going back to the pro A
that thing, which it feels like was a century ago
at this point, when that news came out, Is there
a way for something to be on your file that
like this athlete has had a ding on his you
know whatever, you know, action that that would be considered

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or whatever. Like I know, like Texas Tech fans are
upset that like Cincinnati didn't report it. What exactly was
Cincinnati going to report that Texas Tech would have not
like Texas Tech would have ignored that. Let's be dead honest.
If Texas Tech found out that Brendan Soresby tried to
open up a Prize Picks account and never got in

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the front door, Texas Tech would have said, Okay, well,
prob that works. Good job, Brandan, We're still like to
give you six million dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:11:48):
Yeah, And look this goes also, you know as kind
of a similar to a separate thing. It's not like
when a player is a free agent professional sports or
inst of transfer portal that the school goes, hey, you know,
he twisted his ankle pretty bad, right, you know, December,
you're going to take a look at that. These teams
they do their own medical research, right that. You know,
if you're a professional team, you have them in for

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a physical and you do all this kind of stuff.
Even they're starting to see that at the college level.
So yeah, you're right, it wasn't like something that would
be common practice. When you get into whether it should be,
you know, I don't want to lose the listeners here,
But then you get into the whole employment debate and
collective bargaining, and you know, is Cincinnati allowed to put
something on whether it's a public or semi public file

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about Brennan Sorsby that they did at his school for
other schools to look at. Then you get into a
much hairer kind of situation there. But again, this you
know it kind of I guess this is all of
the issues with college sports wrapped up into one, which is, yeah,
if there were some way that you report it to
the NCAA, and then it becomes known when he entered
the transfer portal, like look, do it this information what

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you will. But in twenty twenty four he tried to
bet UFC and the monitoring service kind of caught him
at the door and kicked him out.

Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
Texas Tech at.

Speaker 12 (01:13:01):
The very least could have been like, well, you know,
maybe we should ask them about this or look into this.

Speaker 8 (01:13:05):
Who knows what would have happened.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Then I think it's a fair point. We'll never know obviously, Like, yeah,
you know, from their perspective, I'm sure they're.

Speaker 12 (01:13:14):
Thinking like, man, we would have liked to have known that,
even if in reality maybe nothing different would have happened.
But yeah, this is just one of the many, many
issues in college sports right now that are causing problems,
but no one seems to have an immediate solution too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
That's the thing, right Like, we're going to go through
all these media days and everybody's going to talk about this,
and it's going to come down to exactly what we
saw with Cody Campbell in Texas Tech. Cody Campbell is
at the front of the line talking about the you know,
protect save College Sports, Protect the College Sports Act. Da
da da da da da da until it's his team.

(01:13:51):
And then when it's his team, they want their quarterback.
And that's really ultimately the problem with all of it,
isn't it justin I think the Michigan was the president
at Michigan that was like, look, we don't want to
give up the advantages that we have earned over the
past century. Uh, just for the sake of fairness and equality.
We are not interested in that. And until that changes

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and I don't think it's ever going to change. College
sports is in a weird place.

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
Yeah, yeah, it was a board member in Michigan.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
But you're right, and you've seen this.

Speaker 12 (01:14:23):
We've seen this as everything, right, Like if you just
ask your coach Blanket, hey, how about a one time
transfer rule? Well, yeah, that sounds great until you really
want to get that player who's already transferred, you know
that that's on your roster, or you know you want
to give them a waiver.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Like the the issue continuous issue.

Speaker 12 (01:14:40):
With college sports is, you know, because of the history
of the sport and kind of like finding.

Speaker 8 (01:14:45):
The loopholes and work around is that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
You know, everyone says they want to be governed with
their words, but doesn't say it with their actions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
And you know.

Speaker 12 (01:14:52):
This this was a you know, you could point to
this as another example, and obviously this one has had
you know, many different legs because you know, let's be
honest here coach Sadderfield brings up tampering with Brndon Soresby,
but he also gave a quote to Vanini that like
tampering hems with everyone. Now you know every school, every
team is doing some form of tampering. That's just kind

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of the way it works in college sports. So as
much as Cincinnati might be frustrated because you're losing your
star quarterback, it's not like Texas Tech tampering or any
school if they did tamper with Brendon Toresby. It's not
like that's kind of some shocking novel thing, like everyone
tampers in the sport, and it's just, you know, it's
the problems are so ingrained that that's what makes it

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kind of so hard to change them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I'd walk carefully if I were Scott Sadderfield on that subject,
because in the end might start, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
There is there's definitely I think, you know, I think
Juliy maguire made these comments with all of this stuff
that media days, which is like, you know, if you're
going to start accusing people, make sure you don't have
things in your closet.

Speaker 8 (01:15:57):
And that is why I think for the most part, nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
That turns people in for temporary because then it's like, oh, well,
what might happen here?

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Certainly kind of understand if if Cincinnati is frustrated by
this whole thing. Look, I get the Texas Tech is
frustrated by this whole thing right, Like you know, from
their perspective, at least they.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Got damage gott.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
You know they hadn't you know, they didn't know they
did anything wrong. It's not like they knew that he
was right and we saw. I understand the frustration there.
I understand why Texas tech fans are are frustrated. Uh,
But you know, I think it's just it's interesting like
how it has all, especially with the Sourcy thing, It's
just continued to play out. Like you said, it seems
like it never ends. And we should have known with

(01:16:40):
media days that something would come of this. But it's
just when you think that you've kind of had the
final Brendan Soarsby article or conversation, you know, inevitably, a
couple of days later, something something new pops up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Another one, another, one, another one. All right, that wraps
it up. I appreciated Justin, renowned sports legal analysts Justin.
Where can they find you?

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Brother?

Speaker 12 (01:17:08):
I'm on social media at Williams Underscore Justin and subscribe
to The Athletic where I don't know what the next Brendan.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Soros of the article will be, but I'm not about
to suggest there won't be one.

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Sometime in the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Near future tomorrow. Thanks man, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:26):
See you really.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Justin Williams from the Athletic great friend awesome to go
read his work. He has been all over the Brendan
Soarsby stuff. Just take a break and our number three.
Get to some more Bengals and some bear Cats. Kegan
Nickison joins us at five thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Here we go our number three, The Moegar Show, not Moegar.
Chad Brindle hanging out for today, will be back tomorrow
and Friday. Thank you for choosing me. It feels like

(01:18:33):
like like the World Cup for the United States ended
two days ago, taran like it feels like the United
States has already moved on, haven't we? What wry football?
There was one day of like, boy, that wasn't fun.

(01:18:53):
We got our rear ends kicked, and that's how you
kind of know like soccer is still a kind of
a novelty in the United States, because the men's national
team has not made it more than a novelty, made
it more than watching them qualify. When they've qualified get

(01:19:16):
through the group stage and then get eliminated and not
really ever make a run into the quarterfinals, the semi
finals or the finals and become a real threat at
winning a World Cup. They've never been a real threat
at winning the World Cup. I've seen a lot of

(01:19:39):
talk the last couple of days about the infrastructure of
youth soccer in America. I don't have I don't have
direct connection to that. Do have direct connection to the
youth sports culture after you know, spending the last five

(01:20:02):
years as a volleyball dad playing club volleyball, just just
got back from AAU Nationals, and knowing the financial requirements
to involve your kids in that level of athletics, they

(01:20:24):
spend a lot of time playing games at the club level.
At the high school level, they practice a lot. You know,
in high school sports like volleyball is no different than
the other fall sports that they will start practice here
next week and that will carry through their entire season,
and they'll practice five days a week leading up to

(01:20:47):
the season, and then when the season starts, they'll have
games a couple days a week, and they'll practice on
the days that they don't have games, and there's a
lot of time spent at the club level. You practice
one or two days a week, you go to a
tournament or two a month. It's a lot of time playing,
a lot of money spent, not a lot of time developing.

(01:21:13):
That's a problem. It's a problem. You know, I remember
sports when I was in it, Tarran, I know you
remember when you were in it. AAU basketball was a
thing back then, but it wasn't a national thing. I'm
sure you played AAU basketball, Terran, I'm sure you played
at tournaments around the region. Now, it's what I mean.

(01:21:39):
The the AAU July season is about to open up
for basketball, like the Nike eybl Is in Vegas this weekend.
Teams from all over the country, forty teams, pretty much
representation of all almost all fifty states. That event is

(01:21:59):
a Vegas and then next week they get done with Vegas,
they go straight to North Augusta, South Carolina, essentially Augusta, Georgia,
and they take part in the Peace cham And they
spend the entire month of July on the road playing games.
No practicing, no skill development. No do you need games
to get better? Sure, there's not a lot of time

(01:22:23):
spent practicing. There's not a lot of time spent getting better,
working on your craft. It's like, all right, here's your teammates,
roll the balls out there, let's shoot some basketballs for
a day or two. Then we're gonna go spend you know,
fourteen of the next seventeen days traveling all over the

(01:22:44):
country playing a couple games of day. It's not great
for development.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
It's just not.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Big Twelve Media Day. Today, Scott Sadderfield and the Cincinnati
Bearcats address the media. Let's hear Scott Ciderfield's comments from
this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
I think we're excited about heading.

Speaker 13 (01:23:11):
The year four for us in the Big Twelve. We've
improved our record each and every year. Excited about this year,
I think for many reasons. I think, first of all,
with the players that we have coming back, starting with
our offensive line.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Man, we got thing.

Speaker 13 (01:23:25):
We got one of the best offensive lines in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
If you got to have a good position group.

Speaker 13 (01:23:30):
Certainly want to start with those guys excited about what
they're going to be able to bring to our table.
Last year we were one of the top offensive lines and.

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
A lot of those guys are back, so.

Speaker 13 (01:23:39):
Not only great players, but they're great leaders on our
team and head.

Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
That locker room up.

Speaker 13 (01:23:45):
And then I think probably the next thing, just really
excited about Coach Woody is coming in to be our
defensive coordinator, So that's going to be a change defensively
over the last.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Couple of years.

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
Coach wood and I were together at Appalachi State for
five seasons, had.

Speaker 13 (01:24:00):
A gr outstanding job there and has had a great
run at Army the last six years. So I'm excited
about what he'll be able to bring to our defense,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
And then I think in the special team aspect.

Speaker 13 (01:24:09):
We have all three of our specialists back with our punter,
our kicker, and our long snapper, so and.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
Those guys are some of the best in the country
as well.

Speaker 13 (01:24:16):
So you know, really get amped about this year, coming
into year four in a great conference with a great opportunity.

Speaker 6 (01:24:25):
So excited about this and ready to get going again.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
If you have a question, please keep your hand rais
until we get someone too.

Speaker 6 (01:24:32):
Got to center right, second.

Speaker 14 (01:24:34):
Run Coach Dan Troth Toro, Wakeupcalldig dot com. JC French
the fourth bringing him through the portal from Georgia Southern.
We know that a team goes as the quarterback goes,
So what can you say about his leadership, his effort
out in the field, what you saw that was worth
bringing him to Cincinnati.

Speaker 13 (01:24:52):
Yeah, you know, I think we all know no matter
what level of what lead you're in, whether it be
rec League, high school.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
College, or pro, you better have a good coll her back.

Speaker 13 (01:25:00):
And certainly went into Portland and then trying to find
uh a guy that fit what we want to do.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
And you know, j C was one of the guys
that was out there.

Speaker 13 (01:25:10):
He's a couple of things that we like about Jay C.
He he ended up being the all time leading.

Speaker 6 (01:25:15):
Pastor in Georgia Southern school history.

Speaker 13 (01:25:17):
He's a guy who's who's got a lot of great experience.
You know, in coach Sheldon's offense down at Georgia Southern,
you know lit up at times, that did a great
job with throwing the football. But then you start digging
deeper and you know, getting calling and talking to people
and find out about his character, his leadership, how he
how he handles himself off the field, and that was

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critical as well.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
And you know, but you don't truly know you get
him on campus.

Speaker 13 (01:25:43):
And and when we got jac on campus, very humble
but very confident in his ability.

Speaker 6 (01:25:48):
I thought we had an outstanding spring he came in.

Speaker 13 (01:25:52):
You know, we spent a lot of time at quarterback
position this this spring and he kind of rose to
the top.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
He throws an excellent ball.

Speaker 13 (01:25:59):
He's very catchable, ball tight spiral, can can make the
throws down the field as well, and also can move
around a little bit. I think, you know, for us
in our offense, we've always had a quarterback that can
they can move around a little bit, and he's able.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
To do that as well.

Speaker 13 (01:26:14):
You know, So I'm excited about what he'll be able
to do for a team this year. I think he's
already you know, taking the leadership role of the quarterback position.
H He's won the locker room, and you know, it's
the reason why we brought him here. You know, I
think we're excited about Jc'll be able to bring to
our team.

Speaker 6 (01:26:30):
Well, there's center.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Left in the back.

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
Bailey Sheffe with Kyler Frogs dot Com.

Speaker 15 (01:26:35):
Hey, coach, you said this is a year four for
you guys. What's the biggest stride that you're making in
the Big twelve as well as.

Speaker 13 (01:26:42):
Your challenge is Yeah, I think you know, year four,
we've you know, we've we've gotten better each and every
year in this league. Obviously, when you're making a move up,
you know, from the group of five at that point
to the Power League, there's gonna be some challenges and
I think, you know, we certainly have learned a lot
over the first three seasons. You know, last year we

(01:27:03):
talked about we just got into a new facility at Cincinnati.
It's an incredible facility where we house our football team
and the indoor facility, new weight room, training room, many
apparatuses that can help in recovery, aid in recovery.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
You know, that certainly will help. This will be served,
you know.

Speaker 13 (01:27:21):
I guess the anniversary kind of like right now, one
year anniversary of getting in the new building, you know,
and then also learning the lay of the land and
the teams that we have to play in this league.
Just some great league and some great coaches, great players,
very competitive. You know, we're having to travel a lot
of places throughout the country and playing in great venues,
and you know, in this league, we all know you

(01:27:41):
have to bring it your a game if you want
a chance to win. And you know, but like everybody else,
we're trying to put out a great team of individuals
that come together and play as a team. And I
think that's that's been our charge this whole off season.
It's become really connected, to become tight as a unit,
and that's what we've been able to do it. I
didn't to see these guys work this summer center left,

(01:28:03):
second rower.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
MICHAELA.

Speaker 15 (01:28:07):
Booker, D two ten sports coach. So much of the
conversation to today is about wins, championships and this upcoming season.
But your impact on these players last much longer than
their football careers. How do you just define success for
your players when football is no longer part of their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:28:27):
I think in our program we do talk a lot
about life, and you know, what kind of father, what
kind of husband you're going to be when you leave football.
You're gonna put complete up one day and then you
know what kind of impact are you going to be
able to make out in society. But I do think
the things that we learn within football, the discipline, the accountability,

(01:28:48):
the camaraderie, the teamwork that you have to have, the
unselfishness that you have to have. You know, all these
traits that I think you learn as a football player
will help you in life, you know, And We got
a bunch of great individuals in our building that that
learn from each other, learn from the older guys, and
and continue.

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
To move forward.

Speaker 13 (01:29:08):
So there's so many there's so many things that we
can that we can learn from from the game of
football that we try.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
To teach our guys.

Speaker 16 (01:29:15):
Center right the road, Scott Springer, Cincinnati Enquirer. Uh, are
you able to say anything about the letter of inquiry
today on on Brendan Sorsby and has this provided a
blueprint for Big twelve schools in general to educate their
student athletes?

Speaker 15 (01:29:33):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:29:34):
No, can't really make any comments about that inquiry.

Speaker 17 (01:29:41):
For those center left, first row coach Neil Meyer the
front office News. You mentioned the coach changes when you
look at the coach and can change bringing in Nate
Woody with the transfer editions on the defensive side of
the ball, do you feel this defense is best to
quick to have success in the Big twelve in year four?

Speaker 13 (01:30:03):
Yeah, I think that's one of the things that we
needed to get better at defensively. You know, for the
last couple of years we were, you know, mainly a
drop eight defense, and in this league with so many
great quarterbacks, they these quarterbacks man they pick you apart.
You know, I feel like you've got to be able
to mix it up and change some things to cause
a little bit of habit for the offense. So with

(01:30:26):
coach Woody again having been with him already for five
years and we've got a good working relationship and understanding
what he's trying to get done, you also have to
look at your personnel all right, what can they do
and what positions do we need to put them into
for them to have success? And you know, Antoine peaks
a great example of that. Who's a guy who's playing
the secondary and now we're moving them closer to the ball,
who's going to be playing that sam position?

Speaker 6 (01:30:47):
To be able to have more.

Speaker 13 (01:30:49):
Impacts in causing habit for the for the offense and
hopefully we'll be able to create more pressure. I think again,
if you can get the offense off their routine, mixing
it up by bringing different pressures boundary field and be
a lot more.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
Aggressive, I think as what we need to be able
to do.

Speaker 13 (01:31:08):
And with our talent that we have in the linebacker position,
with some of the guys we brought in and some
of the guys that are back by.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Jonathan Thompson Simeon.

Speaker 13 (01:31:16):
You know, we got some great linebackers that can really
put pressure on offenses, and we got to be able
to utilize those guys, and I think in this defense
we're going to be able to do that and you know,
obviously be able to mix in some coverages with that
as well. So that's kind of what we've been doing
this whole spring, and as we've approached the summer is
finding different ways to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
There you go, Scott Ciderfield live from Frisco, Texas at
Media Days. Let's take a break. I'll give you what
I think are the three games that will define the
Cincinnati Bearcats season when we come back. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
From keeping it going our number three. Kegan nikoson coming
up here in just a few minutes. Looking at the
UC football schedule, I think it comes down to this,
this is one of those years. Every other year in

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the Big Twelve, you have five road games, four home games,
and then it flips last year since noat he played
five games at home. It's how they built up that
seven to one record. And then the road games started piloting.
They'd lost to home of games two in that stretch.
But the schedule is more difficult every other year. That's
you have to take advantage. Why some of the frustration

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was very high last year, excuse me, is because they
didn't get the job done any year that you had
the five home games. This year, the five road games
in the Big twelve. At Arizona, who Noah Fafita's back.
They're making a Heisman campaign for him. Arizona's going to
have a good team. At West Virginia. West Virginia last year,

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they've flipped their roster almost completely. Again. West Virginia last
year was abysmal on the road, outstanding at home. You
get them at Mylon Pusker Stadium, also on the road, Houston,
Iowa State, and then they end the season November twenty
eighth at BYU. You are probably not gonna win Arizona

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and BYU. Those are very likely. On the road, those
are losses. As Scott Sanderfield's to have a successful season,
I think you have to win two out of three
at West Virginia, at Houston, at Iowa State. That allows
you to flip that script. You're probably let's just be honest.

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You're probably not gonna beat Texas Tech at Nippert Stadium,
but you can be Kansas State. Utah will be a
tall task, but that's a team that's better at home
than they are on the road. And then Colorado the
last home game of the season Senior Day. I think

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you can win three of the four home games, but
if you don't get the job done on the road,
and you can't win two of those road games, it
makes having a successful season very difficult. I think those
three games are the key to the season. Just take

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a break. Keegan Nicholson live from Frisco, Texas right after this.
Since that he's ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
All right, I almost just never want to talk over
this one too, but I guess since Kegan's on the line,
well we'll go ahead, and we'll go ahead and bring
them in.

Speaker 9 (01:35:12):
Key.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Can you know all the words to this one?

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Not long ago when people will pajamas and lived life slow,
you can you can listen up to that while you're
traveling this month.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
Yeah, that'll be probably way deep down on the playlist.
I gotta be completely honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
I mean, this lick great disrespect will not happen on
this show. I'll tell you that right now. What is
the men you've been like in Frisco, Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Monster Media Day in general?

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
I mean, they are you just just pounded monsters? Is
that what we're doing?

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
So the thing is, I've gotten one free Monster that
I'm currently sipping on as I'm working. I'm staring at
them tearing down to set up with the coolers, and
I'm going to head straight over there after this call
and ask them how many they will let me take.
And if I have to check my carry on to

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get Monster home to Cincinnati, I will do that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
I love the dedication. I love how much you respect
the Big twelve Monster collaboration.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting, and I was able to
talk to some people and get more insight on what
that actually is going to look like, because my first
understanding of it is, oh, okay, the Big Twelve is
just forcing a sponsorship on these teams and on these programs,
and that really isn't the case at all when you

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read the logo and patch sponsor. It's more the existing
Big twelve logo will be altered with a Monster portion
of it, So it's it's not a new logo on
the field. This isn't money that is being lost to
these programs in a way, they're actually just being gifted
a million dollars a program. Now, if you want to

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say that there were other there were other businesses that
could have given more money, I would challenge you to
find one that would give the twenty million, because I
don't think the Big twelve is just willingly taking a
pay cut to partner with Monster. I mean, this is
a program that there's a conference that makes a lot

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of decisions financially, So I think that this is probably
one of the best partnerships that they were able to get.
And then the teams themselves will be able to have
their own jersey patches and their own field logos in
addition to the ones that are being added with the
new Monster partnership.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Did they feed you or it was it just Monster today?
Like that's how this works for that generation, right? You
guys just drink Monster all the time?

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
They said us but the food has gone downhill since
it's not at at and T Stadium Anworts at the Stars.
So it was basically a prepackaged sandwich, no white cheddar
mac and cheese or barbecue or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
It's unfortunate what's on the dinner plan tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
So I was told by one of my buddies that
I have to try Terry Black and I was not
trying to spend seventy dollars on barbecue down here. But
now that he has put the seed in my brain,
I don't really think I have a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Make him pay for it, like he If he tells
you you have to go there, that's on him to
pay for it. That's how that works.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
No, I just told him. I told him when the
wife looks at the credit card statement, that she's going
to call him, and it's not my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
So that's basically what it is. You don't have to
spend seventy dollars on barbecue. They have something that doesn't
cost seventy dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
He said, get the beef rib get the brisket. Okay,
that's seventy dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
No side, just Beefcott's c Adderfield on the podium today,
Any anything you took away from that that that maybe
you didn't know or or weren't ready for when when
he spoke this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Yeah, I mean the big thing that I'm recognizing is
I think Jonathan Thompson is going to have a huge year,
and I think that he is going to be much
better than a lot of people might think that he's
going to be. And I've always just seen him as
someone that's kind of been overshadowed by Jake Goldey and

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other linebackers at Jack Dingle. But what I've heard from Sadafield,
what I heard from Evan Tengstall and j C. French
today when I talked to them, was this is a
kid that's super super bendy, plays super hard, and is
going to be able to use his athleticism in a
big way to maybe be the best linebacker that Cincinnati
has this season. And before today I was kind of thinking, Okay,

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Philip Masherowski, Simon Coleman, those guys, maybe a Patrick Bauer
when he gets healthy. But I now have even higher
expectations for a guy like Jonathan Thompson than I did
entering the day. And outside of that, I think the
offensive line is very intriguing, not just that there are
three really good players and three borderline all Americans. I

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think the fact that they are completely overloading that left
side of the offensive line, with Joe Cotton at left tackle,
Evan teng assault left guard, and then Terrence how at center,
which he confirmed to us today that he's expecting to
play center, moving over from guard in place with Gavin Gerhart.
That's interesting to me. And I completely understand why they're

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doing that to keep Evan in the same spot and
keep Joe at left tackle obviously, and that they played
so well together last year that you might as well
keep it the same. But it makes me think about
what defenses could do to kind of manipulate that. And
if you're going to have this really good left side
of the offensive line, we can do things to counter
on the right side. So I would expect a lot

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of a lot of runs to that left side of
the offer defensive line this season as they try to
establish that as a as a key part of their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
I think I remember somebody telling you that that's what
it would look like many moons ago.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
Yeah, I think his name was Brad Chindall about.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Yeah, that guy works in Tipeak. Did you talk to him.
That guy's a jerk.

Speaker 18 (01:41:19):
She yeah, he uses the word funk. How dare he
That guy's funky? Stand that guy got me in trouble
a couple of years ago. Geezu. Defensively, things were not
good last year. Did you get any sense today for
for what they feel like the defense can can potentially

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become under nait Woody.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
It's just a continued emphasis on forcing takeaways. And the
word is havoc. That's the That's the entire identity that
Scott Savafeld wants this group to have and not be
so kind of stand and not wait and try to
confuse the quarterback because much of the goal of the
three three five was to put the quarterback in a

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difficult situation. But what they learned is that these quarterbacks
are good. They can identify the defenses, they can sit
the ball on tight windows, and they can manipulate the zone.
So you have to really try to put pressure on them,
force them out of the pocket, and force them into mistakes.
So I think Jonathan Thompson, I think Antwine peak moving

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down from the middle safety position to that cat outside
linebacker spot is also interesting. I would talk to Adam
Braids wait for a story, and he said that the
most interesting part of that is that he thinks Antwine
Peak is actually really good in pass rush, So he's
going to be able to get in those situations against
tackles that he's more athletic than and quicker than maybe
beat him to the punch and get after the quarterback. Now,

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I don't know if I should if you're if we're
expecting him to get six to seven sacks, but those
little plays where he can speed up the quarterback and
maybe force some interceptions, I think that's that's what his
goal will be in those thirty percent of plays that
he's not dropping back in the coverage.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
How excited did Peak seem on this move to get
him a little closer to the line of scrimmage and
play a little bit more aggressively downhill than he's been
able to.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I think he was very excited. I think he
knows that that's ultimately his best attribute is contributing in
the run game and then being good enough in pass
coverage to help. I did kind of like him in
that middle safety spot just because of actually being able
to physically get downhill and go at the line of
scrimmage in those run fits the peanut punch that he

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has that he's had so much success with. You feel
like that works better getting downhill.

Speaker 16 (01:43:49):
But I.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Just couldn't stand the three three fives and seeing the
three four it makes me wonder why it took me
so long to realize that, because I was a guy
that said it was good enough. But I think this
three four could actually turn this UC defense into a
good defense, despite the fact.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
That they lost so much from last season. You guys
are funny with your hate for the three three five.
I'll just tell you that it's there's there's there's great
defenses that run the three three five. It's not the
the scheme in and of itself. It's won the players
and two the fact that they just decided to drop
eight in coverage and then not cover anybody. That makes

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it hard to be good no matter what system you're
playing in.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
I think it's a very specific scheme that some team.
It won't work for some teams, and it didn't work
for Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Yeah, I do think. You know, as football evolves, we
got into that era where everything was kind of fun
and gun and run and shoot and and everything was
spread out and you you absolutely had to get more
small guys on the field to cover it. Well, then
guess what the game changes again and says, Okay, well

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you're gonna put a bunch of small guys on the field,
then we're gonna load up and we're gonna run right
at you, or we're gonna take advantage of what you're
giving us. The pendulum swung back, and I think Cincinnati
went to that defense at exactly the wrong time. It
just was a terrible fit.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
Yeah, and this could be wrong, or I could be
overthinking something, but I feel like getting more pressure on
the quarterback will lead to more interceptions than just putting
more guys in the defensive backfield, because the longer you
let him sit there and digest, the longer the time
that somebody has to get open. You speed him up
and make him think too quick. I just think that

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that's a recipe to get those turnovers that you see
has been wanting so badly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Did it feel like there was an urgency to get
back to nine ten eleven wins Seeds or did it
feel like we think we've got this thing pointed in
the right direction. We're going to continue to elevate the program.
I don't know, I don't necessarily get a sense that

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they're looking at it and going, hey, like we really
feel like we've got a team that can can compete
and maybe win this conference.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Yeah, not so level it was last year. You could
since that last year with the top of the roster
talent they had with Brennan sorosby which at Golde, Dante Corleon,
the wide receiver Corps, that you don't really get that sense.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
This year.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
You kind of get the sense that they can be scrappy,
that they could possibly get to eight wins, just given
the fact that there are so many unknowns, Like that's
something that Satterfield said today is like you still have
to figure it out and fall You're still learning what
the players can do best and how he is going
to call plays this season based off of what his
players can actually do. So there are a ton of

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unknowns that you don't really know, and I think that
that kind of leads you to not go in with
an overconfident attitude of we're going to win this conference now.
Could that maybe influence the team and make them play
better because they set the standard, and they look in
the mirror and they have to decide that they have
to prepare to the level to be a team that's

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going in the conference. Maybe, but also I think Scott
Chanderford is a very very realistic person and is going
to approach it in the best way that he thinks
that can win them games.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
What level was Soresby Mania today? Did it feel like
it has died down some? Was there more than you expected?
Less than you expected, especially you know with the news
coming out today that the NCAA did release an inquiry
to the University of Cincinnati, which I don't really think
amounts to much of anything. But what was the vibe

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in Frisco?

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Yeah, it was less today than it was the day
before based off what I have seen, And there may
have been a what's the word, I'm looking for a
command from the Big twelve to kind of avoid the
stores By questions as they were posed yesterday. And I
think that kind of speaks to a little bit of

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the dysfunction within the conference, not saying that one side
is right, but more saying the lack of preparation around
what was, no doubt the biggest story of the week
here is kind of surprising, Like I feel like there
should have been better answers prep to questions you knew
that you were going to get, but it wasn't near

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as much today, especially because Texas Tech wasn't here. I
was expecting Sadderfield to field more questions, but the ones
that he fielded were more diplomatically angled, I guess you
could say, and he was able to answer them easier
than what I'm dealt with.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Yesterday on the issue of tampering, which has become kind
of a hot button, after Ciderfield made a couple comments that, oh,
maybe I don't know, Texas Tech had been in contact
with Soresby's people well before the end of the season,
which I'm just gonna put it out there from our perspective,
we heard Texas Tech's name what late October, early November.

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Just saying but it's a very fine line to walk because,
as I have said before, everyone is tampering, because if
you're not, you get left behind and you're in bad,
bad shape. Because literally the entire sport, college football and
college basketball are tampering at every available opportunity. It's a

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a fine line to walk if you're Scott's Odderfield.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
What's the phrase nice guys finished last year? What it
is so, but I will say is that while it's
not tampering, it's definitely going in the other direction of
guys representation reaching out the teams well before the end
of the season. And I think this all goes to
needing the CBA, needing these guys to be employees, and

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needing a firm set of rules sign these guys some
multi year contracts to make sure that that doesn't happen.
Maybe there's a legal tampering window that you can do.
But then even if you do that, people are going
to try to manipulate that and get ahead so to
not play by the rules, to get ahead of everyone else.
So yeah, it's interesting. And you know, this could possibly

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be UC trying to get their pr spin on it
against Texas Tech because Texas Tech is basically just been
putting the belt to them and trying to throw them
in the fire that it's their fault. It's their fault,
and from a Texas Tech perspective, they were punished for
no reason, like they technically didn't do anything wrong, but

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they lost their starting quarterback and bring and Sorosby was
the one that was punished, But as one of my
colleagues said today, Texas Tech was punished by proxy, and
they can't really just live with the fact that no
one else is being punished, even if it means that
they're going to throw people in the fire that didn't
do anything wrong. And it's kind of been proven based
on all the facts that are out there, that Cincinnati

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didn't do anything wrong. So it's an interesting conversation. Maybe
it's maybe we can just settle it and say, you
know what, Texas Tech didn't tamper u s didn't know
about the gambling. We can shake hands and move on
from it and never talk about it again.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
I think we can all agree with the one there.
It was Indiana that did something wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Yes, it's Indiana.

Speaker 8 (01:51:38):
Yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
I'm sure. I ask you this more as we get
through camp and closer to uh the season. But in
ten words or less, how many wins for Scott Saderfield
for the fan base to relax in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
To relax? Yeah, I think eight to get the fan
base to relax. I think seven is a good season.
I think seven keeps him his job. I think six
is It could possibly be up in the air.

Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
Five.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
It could even be up in the air, but anything
below that it starts to come into question. But I
think he would need he would.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Need go ahead, ten words or less. I got ten seconds.
Now I gotta go, Kegan, he.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
Needs eight eight wins to keep everyone happy. There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
That's the show. We'll see you next time, The Moegger Show.
Since I he's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 19 (01:52:42):
And I'm listening to the radio, I'm listening to what
sad thing about us?

Speaker 6 (01:52:49):
He got a throw.

Speaker 19 (01:52:54):
I just want myself in that toro. When you're alone,
it gets bad. Don't act that. If you did talk
to know she let me play with her, Hord. I'm
working late, I said, I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Soon be home.

Speaker 19 (01:53:09):
All about the girl was home home. Let me tell
you what she crying for.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Why?

Speaker 19 (01:53:15):
Because I'm flying, super flying Nate, No, I'm flying.

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
You know he's super flying. But me, I'm super duper
and I'm super duper flying flying.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
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