The Mo Egger Radio Show -- 8/17/26

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What down Bengal.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's pre season football. Will Choburrow and the Bengals be
ready to roar against Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears.
It's a pig skin power struggle. Get the call live
from Dan Or to Dave Laffat. Coverage begins Saturday at
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of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, that's us.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good afternoon, humboegger, this is ESPN fifteen thirty. Appreciate you listening.
Hope you had an awesome weekend. Hope your week is
off to a great start. Our week is off to
an unbelievable start because we're back at the Cincinnati Open.
And you know, we did a show here last week
which was it was great and unfortunately the weather was
an absolute disaster and so tennis was played that night.

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It was not played while we were here, but fans
weren't allowed in. They closed the grounds. Today, the grounds
are packed, it is warm out.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We have had a.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Weather delay, but tennis is going to be served up
here very very soon. If you're coming to the event,
we'll be here till six o'clock in the top deck bar,
which is attached to a center court. So come by
and say hello, come by and buy me a cold one.
In about fifteen minutes, our buddy Joe Goodberry's going to
join us Bengals on the Brain. He has made this

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his full time vocation, covering the Bengals, breaking down the Bengals.
He has a great preseason player guide that you will love.
He is going to join us at three twenty. Entire
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watch today's show on YouTube or on Twitter. Reds are
playing right now the Reds Day of someone named Kent Emanuel.

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He has been okay. The Reds trailed two to one
as the Cardinals bat in the top of the fifth
inning double header at GABP today, start of a five
game series. After two I think really demoralizing losses over
the weekend. Saturday night felt like more than just a loss,
and yesterday looked like the kind of baseball that I

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think we thought we weren't going to be seeing anymore
with Terry Francona as the manager. We'll get to that
in just a second. This is, by my count, the
tenth time in twelve years that we've broadcast from the
Cincinnati Open. And you know, we did the show here
last week and it was fine, but it wasn't what
we wanted. I don't think it was what they wanted,

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and so I'm thrilled that we got a chance to
work something out that we could at least do one
of our shows from out here. I love this event.
I am not a diehard tennis fan, but it is
a sport that I really enjoy. I enjoy the people watching.
I enjoy skyline cheese Cony's. I could get those here.
This is a really awesome I talked to friends of

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mine who came last night for the first time and
texted me and were like, Yep, you were right. Should
have been coming all along. I love this event. They're
so cool with us. We might get a chance to
chat with Katie McNally. The Cincinnati product who plays doubles today.
I don't know if the weather is going to push
back her match a little bit too late for us
to be able to talk with her. But nonetheless, they're

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always so awesome to us here. What the Reds put
on the field this weekend was the exact opposite of awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Sloppy t j Antone thrust into a.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Role that he unfortunately is forced to play in the
eighth inning, and then again yesterday, sloppy defense, almost non
existent offense yesterday. The loss to the Marlins yesterday pushed
them to seven games out of the wild card and
I know theoretically they could gain a game and a
half back today because.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
They played twice and the Padres play later this evening.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
But I think last night was the where Yesterday afternoon,
I should say, was the kind of game that I
think a lot of us thought we weren't going to
be seeing anymore with Terry Francona as the manager. Sloppy,
They looked unfocused, and I get it. When you don't
hit and when you have mistakes in the field, you
know it's easy to default to they don't care or

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they're not trying. I think in the years that I've
been doing this. That is the accusation that I've thrown
around the least, because I think it's mostly unfair and
it's something we'd default to. I think sometimes a little
bit too easily. I'll go with unfocused.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It looked a.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Little unfocused yesterday. And the thing with Nicklodolo and Terry Francona.
I don't know either Nicklodolo hung it up after seventy
three pitches instead of going out there for the six,
or there was a plan in place for him to
throw only seventy five pitches and his manager was unaware.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
These are the sort.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Of things that should not be happening when you have
a man who's going to Cooperstown, and so that is
interesting to me. It's also interesting the pushback that a
former Red is getting on his Twitter feed for his
criticism and I guess analysis of Ellie Dela Cruz talking
about Zach Cozart.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Now we're gonna get to that a little bit later on.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I will tell you this, Up until this morning, I
had no idea Zach Cozart was on Twitter. So I
don't know a lot about how he tweets, who he tweets,
or what he tweets about. But I saw the criticism
where he looked at that Ellie Dela Cruz play yesterday
where he makes an err and throw on a ball
that he fielded rather nonchalantly, and Zach Cozart used the

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word lazy. I might have been a little bit more
semantically gentle, but I actually really like the fact that
Zach Cozart did it. We'll get to that coming up
a little bit later on. Joe Goodberry in ten minutes
on the Bengals who do not practice today. Tony Pike
joins us a little bit later on for the first
of three hourly training camp reports. Kind of a quiet

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weekend for the Bengals, that they did practice Saturday, they
did practice yesterday. Dante Myers continues to do awesome things
at practice. We'll be back tomorrow morning for the eight
Door and Window Tony and Moe Training Camp show at
ten o'clock from tomorrow's practice, which Zach Taylor says, we
could expect it to be physical and hard hitting and
we are looking forward to that. But in terms of

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anything newsy, kind of a quiet weekend right this week
will not be quiet. You have a practice tomorrow, you
have the joint training camp practice with the Chicago Bears,
and you have a preseason game against the Bears on
Saturday evening. The big story of the weekend was Sierra Wright,
who acted in Lebron James version of Space Jam, has

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decided to leave the team to go pursue apparently another
film role, and he's not going to be able to
do both at the same time. This is an easy
choice for me. Chance for a role in a major
film or a spot on the practice the squad. I
know what I would do. I would chase the guarantee.
I would assume it's a guarantee. I would chase the

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guaranteed money that came with the film role, even if
it meant I had to either put off or end
my dream of playing in the NFL. Seir Right was
a fringe roster guy at best, and so nothing against
anybody who's on the practice squad. You can make a
nice living being on an NFL practice squad. I know
what I would do, and if I was in his

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shoes practice squad fringe roster dude, barely make the team,
be cut fodder, or go act in and get paid
to be in a major Hollywood release. Beyond that, not
a very newsworthy weekend. That's really good. Look right now,
the thing this team has going for it more than

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anything else is health. Yes, talent, but health. Look around
the NFL every single day, it feels like we're finding
out about somebody in a training camp somewhere who suffered
an injury. Maybe not a season ending injury, but suffered
in injury. I'm good with not seeing Joe Burrow play
anymore during the preseason. I'm good with not putting Joe
Burrow behind Orlando Brown for the time being. I think

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we're good with that. And what you would like to
think is that a quarterback and a coach combination in
their seventh year, together with all the continuity they have
on offense, that they could find ways over the next
few weeks to be able to hit the ground running
Week one on offense against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Maybe

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they don't, and maybe they don't, and the defense rises
to the occasion. I thought in the first preseason game
against the Detroit Lions, the defense, for the most part,
we're talking about a lot of backups and a lot
of starters not playing a ton of snaps. I thought
the defense for the most part, and there are exceptions
held up pretty well.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
But like, I don't know, man, I think more and
more about this.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I was among the many who were not opposed to
Joe Burrow playing in the preseason last year because of
all the recent issues the Bengals have had getting off
to fense starts on offense. Let's remember last year those
guys played in the preseason. Bengals didn't get off to
a fast start on offense, struggled to score against the Browns,
took forever to get going Week two against the Jaguars.

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Now they won those games, and Burrow got hurt in
the second one, and so that's sort of overshadowed everything
else happening with the team. But you would like to
think that with the continuity they have, the caliber of
quarterback they have, the experience the head coach and primary
play caller has, you would like to think that they
can find some level of functionality on offense that hasn't

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been there in recent years without subjecting Joe Burrow to
more hits in games that don't count. What this team
has going for right now better than anything else. There
are exceptions to this, by the way, BJ Hills now
active and practicing, So that leaves Shamar Stewart in a
handful of guys who are maybe dealing with minor injuries.

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But there's been nothing catastrophic. There's been nothing necessarily noteworthy,
and it's been that way for a couple of weeks. Obviously,
they're gonna have a practice tomorrow. Yes, they're gonna have
that joint practice against the Chicago Bears. It feels like
the joint practice against the Bears is essentially gonna take
place for the starters at least take the place of
the preseason game on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
But I'm good, and I think you should.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Be as well with not watching Joe Burrow play anymore
in games that do not count. Tony joins us latest
on the Bengals coming up in about thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I tried on Friday.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
To come up with a reasonable way to talk about
Orlando Brown, who stood out on Thursday night for the
whiff on Eric O'Neil, an undrafted college free agent playing
for the Detroit Lions who last season had two and
a half sacks, and the whiff subjected Joe Burrow to

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a hit. You can't subject Joe Burrow to any hits
in the preseason. Now, on one hand, you find people
who go, look not even worth talking about. I don't
believe those people are are right. And then on the
other hand, it's we'll see Orlando Brown stinks find somebody else.
He's gonna be awful. He's gonna get Burrow killed. We're
not going down that road either. There is a safe

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and comfortable middle ground, which is where I am. We'll
see if I can get you there a little bit
later on. One of our favorite people to talk about
the Bengals with is Joe Goodberry, who, for years his
side gig if you will, has been writing about the Bengals,
tweeting about the Bengals, breaking down film, YouTube channel, podcasts,

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all this. He's now made this like his full time
living so I'm excited to see what that looks like.
He's got a great preseason guy that if you're at
all interested in watching the Bengals looking and looking at
these players through a scouts lens, I think you're really
gonna like. Joe is gonna join us when we come
back quarter after three. We're broadcasting today from the Cincinnati

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two to one bottom of the fifth inning at GABP.
Dane Meyer is a homer for Cincinnati can Emanuel five
innings of two run, five hit baseball. Well up to
date You on that game as it unfolds, obviously the
first of.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Two tonight at GABP. Quarter after three.

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Mol Eggard broadcasting from the Cincinnati Open today where the
rain stopped maybe about an hour ago. We had like
a fifteen minute storm. Wasn't too heavy the players had
to come off the court. But resuming here this afternoon.
A great evening for tennis, hopefully ahead as well. Our
buddy Joe Goodberry is always kind enough to join us.

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For years he's offered Bengals analysis and coverage on a
part time basis because he's had like a full time
gig doing something else. This summer, he has decided to
give Bengals coverage and analysis his full time attention and
we're gonna be better for it because Joe makes us
all smarter. Bengals on the Brain dot com is his website.

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He does twice weekly shows on YouTube. He also has
his twenty twenty six Bengal Decks Field Guide, which is
a version of a publication he has issued before.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
You could order that.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's available at Amazon. Also get it at Bengals on
theebrain dot com and kind enough to join us this afternoon.
Does that mean we can have you on more often
now that you're doing this like full.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
Time, Moe, you can have me on whenever you want.
It's always a pleasure to talk to your friends.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Thank you very much. I want to talk about what
you're doing. Let's get to the team first. You and
I talked right after the draft about this rookie class
after getting a glimpse of them on the field, and
there were obviously exceptions, you know, the guys who didn't play,
but from the guys who did, based on what you've
seen in that one preseason game and in practice, how

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ready to contribute.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
Are these guys man that first preseason game.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
I don't know if we've had a debut for an
entire class like that ever, right, I can't remember. I
remember bits and pieces of each rookie throughout three or
four preseason games, all showing up, all having their moments.
But everyone that played had an impact, had a splash play.
I mean, starting from Cash's Howell in his spin move
half stack. I don't know if you even got credited

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for it, but he had a couple of wins as
a pass rusher. I thought he set the edge well
on one run defense play. Landon Robinson was the talk
of the game afterwards. He was active throughout the entire game,
played thirty two snaps.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
We should have been but he stood out.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
I thought, in general, the entire class, down from Kashus Howel,
who's your top pick? Down to Brian Parker and Jack
Juries and Landon Robinson your last picks, everyone had an impact.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
Checked Juries had a touchdown, good blocking.

Speaker 8 (15:01):
Brian Parker played left guard and center with the twos
and threes.

Speaker 9 (15:04):
He looked very good.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
To me.

Speaker 9 (15:05):
That looks like a future starting guard.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
That's what I thought he was coming out so I'm
very happy to see first test was passing, and I
just think in general, could they play right away?

Speaker 9 (15:15):
I think many of them can.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
It's going to be interesting to see how many do,
because a lot of these picks were at positions where
they had a lot of depth.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Is Brian Parker already their best backup offensive lineman and
does that say more about him or the other guys
that make up the twos and threes.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
He is, and it says a lot about him because,
like I said, I thought he was worthy of a
late second to third, no later than fourth round pick,
So to get him in the sixth I thought was
extreme value.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
To me.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
He looks like a future Clint Bowling level type guard.
So ask me again in three years and we may
just say, yeah, he's that guy. And you know, Joe,
you were right once in a while that that'd be nice.
But no, I do think it looks bad on Jalen
Rivers as well, because he got beat pretty poorly. After
watching tape, there was a couple of other plays as well.
Since then, at practice he's been at left tackle and

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it's been Cody Ford with the backups that guard. It's
been Jacob Bayer with the backups that guard opposite of
Brian Parker. So I think they're trying to see who
has the versatility worthy of keeping because as of right now,
I think you're throwing in Brian Parker if someone goes
down on the inside.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Eric All's got to play in a preseason game. But
he's had an awesome offseason. He's looked a part during
training camp. He has every tool in the box that
you can ask a tight end to have. We saw
Jack andrees. Just give me a breakdown of the tight
end room. Is this the deepest, potentially they've had at
that position in years?

Speaker 8 (16:36):
I think for sure it is, and it starts with
very segmented positions within the tight end position. Because you
have Mi Koseki, who's basically a wide receiver. He almost
never lines up in a true tight end set. He
never is really blocking. I think he was out wider
in the slot for ninety one percent of his snaps
last year. He doesn't play any special teams either, which
is huge four tight ends. Everyone behind him, though Drew

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Sample is your big blocker that is not a receiver.
We know about these guys. It seems like cam Brandy
is the straight up backup or Drew Sample as a
wide tight end. He's also six', five two. Fifty he's
got size on him, right he can. Block he also
did a little bit of Eric all stuff last week
with the starters Because all didn't play in That lions.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
Game So all is your move tight.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
End you're h back the guy you're gonna put in
motion and block the unblocked the end on the other,
side or chip and release and maybe run after the,
catch a lot of what they did With Noah fense last.
YEAR i think they're really excited About Eric all and
getting him back into this, offense going more twelve, personnel
which is when running back two tight end. Sets but from,
there Jack endries is more like an eric allstyle tight.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
End he's not so Much Mike.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Aseki he's not Really Drew sample doesn't have that type
of size and, strength AND i think that's how they
used him in this. Game but they also gave him
some straight up blocking on the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
Plays which was nice to. SEE i think.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
The wild card here Is Tanner, hudson who is traditionally
been a slot receiver, type more of A, mankaseki but
he's doing a little bit more in camp and in
preseason he is blocking a little bit. More AND i
Saw i'm watching the broadcasts walking with, him AND i
went and watched the. Film he's on every special team's,
play And i'm, like he's trying to make this. Roster

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he's trying to make it so he is so invaluable
you can't cut him even on a deep room because
he's also the backup like four string quarterback and emergency,
quarterback short yardage tight end that comes in for, sneaks
long snapper if someone goes.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
Down he does, Everything SO i think he's gonna make this.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Roster Joe Goodbarry bengals on The brain dot, com give
me the appropriate way to talk about or react to
what we saw From Orlando brown On thursday and what
we've seen from him because the you, know the the
video snippets that are out there are not exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Flattering so how do we break him? Down what's the
right way to do?

Speaker 8 (18:49):
It So i'm more critical of the young players When
i'm watching. PRESEASON i want to see they're the hungry,
ones they're the ones. EXCITED i would just listen as
someone posted a clip from like A hyde who is
A packers And bill's, safety and he was talking about
he's retired now he's talking about his preseason and how
he approached.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
It when he was a.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Rookie he approached that first game like he was playing
in The Super bowl as a fifth round, pick right
and met everything for. Him he was ready for that first,
game and by year, three four, five he just wants
to get in and get. Out they really are the,
veterans he. Said everyone was like this around THE. Nfl
they're really they don't, care they don't want to play in.
Preseason they're just trying to survive and get out of.

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There SO i tend to be less critical of those.
Guys on one, HAND i also need you to protect
Protect Joe burrow with everything you've got because he is
the franchise and if he gets hurt in a preseason,
game this city is going to burn.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
Down so, like let's not have that.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
Happen let's not play with That orlando and have a
little bit more effort on those.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
Plays BUT i do kind, of you, KNOW i understand.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Why these guys don't want to be out there for
the meaningless.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Games are they okay? Ish right? Now at?

Speaker 8 (19:54):
LINEBACKER i wonder if they are actually because it was
such a big.

Speaker 9 (19:59):
CONVERSATION i mean all year last.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Year we've put the focus in microscope on those guys
and they were pretty bad for largely the entire, Season
so of course we talked about it all off. Season
we always, said you, know there's a chance these guys
take a step in year. TWO i think the biggest,
thing because it's hard to tell yet if they how
big of a step they've. Taken of course they probably
did in here, too BUT i think the biggest thing
is that they're keeping them free and clean way more.

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Often and they're doing this with their five man fronts
and their three four, defense and just how much they've
invested at defensive, tackle From Dexter lawrence To Jonathan, allen
Even Landon Rominsy Chris jenkins may have taken a, step
but KEEPING. Tj slaton not just straight up cutting, him
GETTING bj, hillback that's a lot of beef up. Front
those are three of the top six double team defensive

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tackles over the last five.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
Years that's going to keep your linebackers.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Free and everyone talks about, it but when you actually
see it and you see it in the, games you. Go,
yeah of course they look like they're playing. Faster they're
more accurate in the, reads they can see what's going.
On they're not trying to fend off offensive lineman climbing
to the second level to block. Them they're able to,
free freely flow to the play and get their quicker
faster with more. Aggression so even if they're that not

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that much, better their negative plays should be fewer and far.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Between understanding that the rest of camp in the preseason
could impact this, answer and understanding, that like you, know
you got to pay attention to who's made available on cutdown.
Day if you could add one player to one, group
where in this team would that?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
BE i am wondering about swing tackle because if it's
Not Cody, ford if you're moving him to guard after
one practice and it sounds like there's a lot of
pressure on. Him Jeff hoopson Of bengals Dot COM's had
a bunch of articles kind of insinuating that there is
pressure On Cody. Ford the team wanted them to drop,
weight they want them to be better at offensive, tackle and.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
Then Jalen rivers is now going to go out to left.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
Tackle it looks like based on practices leading up to
this game, here so let's see that he was so
bad last year they had to move him into. Guard
this is a guy that's sixs five and his thirty
five inch, arms he should be playing. Tackle so if
it's neither of those, guys if you end up coming
away from preseason like it's Not, ford it's Not, rivers
do you really expect these undrafted guys to be that
or The Andrew cookers of the.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
World, no if someone goes, down or If Orlanda brown.

Speaker 8 (22:08):
Has a, bad bad, Year i'm talking not just what
we saw last year at moments Where i'm talking real,
BAD i don't know if they have another. OPTION i
don't know if there's anything on this roster THAT i
would feel comfortable turning. TO i feel really good about
their guard. Depth then into your offensive line. Deep we
didn't Mention Connor louie's going to be the future. CENTER
i just don't really love. Tackle if there's someone that's
cut or a veteran out there or something still there

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on the last. Day kind of similar To Dalton reisner
getting signed what four days before the season started last.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
YEAR i would like the idea of kicking the tires
on a swim.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
TECH i can't imagine there's anybody in our audience right
now who isn't familiar with your. Work but what you've
DONE i think is pretty. Cool because this Offering bengals
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has changed and you're doing this full, time AND i
know it's a labor of, love but it's still so

(23:00):
walk people through what you're doing now and how things
have evolved just over the last couple of.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
Years, yeah because this is my eighteenth season talking about
The bengals and trying to make content, online starting from
blogging and writing player evaluations and doing podcasts and writing
for The athletic and other, websites and it just has
evolved through, time and this is just another.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
EVOLUTION i finally made it.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
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Speaker 9 (23:47):
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Speaker 8 (23:48):
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Speaker 3 (23:53):
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my scoring and grading THAT i, do And i've been
doing this since twenty. FOURTEEN i score in grade every
player on The bengals roster based on a ten point
scale in each. Thing so if you got like, strength, speed,
athleticism arm, strength take arm strength for, Example it's not
just how far you can throw the. Ball it's the

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velocity and the spin and the, touch and can you
throw from different, platforms different arm.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
Angles so much goes into just arm.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Strength AND i break that all down AND i grade
every single player on The bengals, roster AND i have
for more than ten years. Now so you'll see those
scores on each individual page with a little bit of
a write. Up so what DO i think this player
is and what he can? Be that'll all be in
there and you can see the. Numbers always got a
ninety five for. Speed this guy must be really. Fast
it's really fun for the. Kids my kids enjoy looking through, it, like,
OH i didn't KNOW Dj turner was this.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Fast Ad i'm, like, yeah you, know for, kids and
that's the.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Fun, well congrats. AGAIN i know it's a labor of
love and doing it full time is pretty. Cool can't
thank you. Enough we'll bother you against you.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Man thanks so. Much thank.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
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podcast and his twenty twenty Six Bengal decks field. GUIDE
i tweeted out a. Link joe's work is. Awesome go
get it now twenty eight from four. O'clock Tony pike's
work also really, good he joins us in about fifteen,
minutes get the latest on that. Train the latest on
training camp is there's nothing happening, today but there is

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still a lot to talk about With.

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Whatever katie McNally and her partner are going to play later.
Today serena And Venus williams will play tonight doubles here
at The Cincinnati. Open it is not raining anymore and
tennis is being served nineteen from four. O'clock anything you
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had a really good conversation with a doctor On friday
About Hunter green and his return from injury and what
it's gonna, involve what to, expect whether or not he's
gonna have to make dramatic changes to how he. Pitches
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what my favorite moment From bengals practice this weekend? Was
it was it was Seeing Jeff blake At. Bengals Jeff
blake is my second all time Favorite bengals, player AND

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i think to a degree like he showed up he
was at, practice he talked About Joe, burrow offered some
opinions on this year's. Team Jeff blake in the mid nineteen,
nineties though that stretch of, time was.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Miserable to be A bengals.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Fan and while his star didn't shine bright very, long
the glimmer of hope that he gave us in the
mid nineties was pretty, intoxicating quite frankly as a. Kid
and to this, day there's never been a Quarterback i've
seen who's thrown a pretty er deep ball Than Jeff.
Blake AND i remember as a freshman in college at
ud going to a game In pittsburgh watching him play

(29:51):
on A thursday. Night that's The steeler team that ended
up making The Super bowl that year And Jeff blake
torching The. Steelers and you, know he was a sized
and you know it wouldn't exactly have a career that
if you looked at the, numbers jumped off the. Page but,
dude for like he's been called by some the guy
who Got Paul Brown stadium, built AND i genuinely do

(30:12):
believe because of these small glimmers of hope that he
provided in the nineteen, nineties that there are folks who
voted to build that stadium that ordinarily might not have so.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Stoked to See Jeff blake back in the.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Day we did a segment twenty fourteen Called Throwback, thursday
and he was at the very top of my list
of PEOPLE i wanted.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
To have on and he was.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Awesome so Seeing Jeff blake could practice this weekend warmed my.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Heart Tony pike warms my. Heart we have a lot
to get to with.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Him he joins us next ON espn fifteen, Thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 3 (31:02):
Thirty Tony pike joints us every hour would the latest
from training. Camp there's nothing happening, Today, tony which is
sort of a quiet before the storm day because this
is gonna be a big.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Week, yeah you, know not Only, thursday the joint, practice
which bar none you take, practices you take preseason. Games
it will be the most significant day of training camp
and the most significant day of work this team will
have before their opener against The Tampa Bay. Buccaneers That's.
Thursday tomorrow is expected to be an intense physical practice as,

(31:35):
well so you kind of circle this week as the work.
WEEK i don't expect a lot of the guys to
play On saturday because so much of their work is
going to get done On thursday against The Bears. Ones
and then you're in preseason game number three on the
road where not a lot of guys are going to.
Play so this is the big week of work that
you circle For bengals training camp on where you're going

(31:55):
to start to maybe see some.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Separation how close Is Dante myers to clinching the spot
on this.

Speaker 11 (31:59):
DAY i think he's really. CLOSE i think if the
decision were to be made, TODAY i think there's a
spot Between Charlie, Jones Kendrick, pryor And Mitch. TINSLEY i
think that would come down to the last. SPOT i
Think Dante myers as of, today would be on the.
ROSTER i think he gives you more of an upside
than what the others. Do but that's the thing about

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training camp and the next couple of, days you're going
to have an opportunity to make your. Case if you're
one of those other, guys and if You're Dante, myers
you also have the case that you could lose if
you take a couple of steps. Back so if it
were done, TODAY i think he. Does BUT i think
there's a lot of, time and there's going to be
a lot of install and a lot of film work

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and things to work on between now and then before
they make the.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Decision you AND i On, friday the day after the preseason,
game we talked about how Good Brian parker was in
HIS nfl. Debut we also talked about The Orlando brown
moment and the concern Surrounding Orlando. BROWN i feel like
the other backup offensive lineman should take those two guys to,
dinner because instead of talking about how underwhelming some of
those guys, were we talked about the good With Brian

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parker and the not so good With Orlando.

Speaker 11 (33:08):
Brown, yeah and one of the things With Brian parker
being able to move around on the line position versatility
is something we've talked about a lot For Orlando Brown.
Junior i'm giving it The. THURSDAY i have to see
more going out Of bengals practice On thursday against The
bears to feel more comfortable because right now it was
my biggest question on the line outside of the, depth

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but for the, starters my biggest question has Been Orlando Brown.
JUNIOR i need to see something that takes me away
from that by the end of practice On thursday or
else that's going to become more of a. Conversation and
if that becomes more of a, conversation all of a,
sudden we shift to the underwhelming play of the backup offensive,
line which poses even more of an issue for this.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Team Cornerback Sierra wright decided to leave the team because
he's going to go continue his acting. Career what would
your preference, be practice SQUAD nfl player or major motion picture.

Speaker 11 (34:01):
Star major motion picture star a little less wear and
tear on the body as well than what practice squad
and football would give. You maybe he can do. Both
maybe he gets done shooting In october and he comes
back and he does. Both BUT i THINK i WOULD
i would take a Little hollywood excursion to start things.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Off all, Right I'M i Think i'm with you.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
There we'll talk again at an hour and about an Hour,
tony thanks so, much all, right. Mo Tony pike joins
us every hour latest On bengals training. Camp he's back
with me tomorrow morning for The Adoring Window tony And
Mode Training camp show ON espn fifteen, thirty broadcasting From bengals.
PRACTICE i guess you have to, say with everything unfolding
these days weather, wise weather, permitting hopefully all is good

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for tomorrow morning ten until noon live from training.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Camp cannot.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Wait that has been an absolute, Blast and of Course
tony is With Dan Horden Dave lapham On saturday night
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(35:12):
over The. Reds Luis may with a couple of really
good innings For cincinnati in relief Of. Kent Emanuel red's
trying to take the first game of a doubleheader today
and pull within six and a, half only six and
a half games of that last wildcard. Spot we have
More bengal stuff to get. To plus a Former red
calls Out elie de La cruz And i'm here for.

(35:34):
It we'll maybe squeeze in a phone caller too at
five point three, seven four, nine fifteen, thirty And i'll
try to thread the needle when it comes To Orlando.
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Four this IS espn fifteen.

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Thirty, Moegger thank you so.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Much for joining. Us hopefully the.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Week is off to an unbelievable. Start we are broadcast
thing this time with like.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Actual tennis being played and the fans being.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Here we're broadcasting from The Cincinnati, open which because it's
It's august twenty twenty six in the Greater cincinnati, area
we were in a we're in a weather. Delay Pete,
holtzman media relations director from The Cincinnati open here to
give us the.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Lay we're in a, delay, right.

Speaker 12 (36:21):
We are in a weather.

Speaker 13 (36:22):
Delay we've the players have come off the court and
that's why you're so popular here at the top deck.

Speaker 12 (36:27):
BAR a lot of people up here.

Speaker 13 (36:29):
Enjoying some livations and not getting rained on. It so
we think this should be hopefully a pretty passing rain,
shower hoping to be back in court bottom of the,
hour but we'll see how how long the rain.

Speaker 12 (36:40):
Persists you had a brief.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Delay earlier when we first got, here AND i think
there were these two women WHO i think thought we, were,
like you, know fan information or, something until they started
asking me AND i, said, MA'AM i don't, know But
i'm happy to look online for. You and the one
woman said to, me you're not that, useful are, You
AND i said, no no piece of criticism has ever
been more. True so thanks very. Much hopefully they're enjoying.

Speaker 13 (37:01):
Themselves we will REMOVE i taped actually said info booth
on the, Front so that's on.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Me we're just having a little joke at your. Expense
take me behind the scenes when something like this. Happens
what's going on with the, players with the, Officials walk
me through it.

Speaker 13 (37:14):
Well so, Actually Bob, moran a tournament, director was planning
on joining.

Speaker 12 (37:17):
You we wanted him to get the chance to chat with.

Speaker 13 (37:20):
You, unfortunately he's getting pulled into, meetings and, look first
thing is everybody's, safety, right let's check out is their.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Lightning in this?

Speaker 13 (37:26):
Storm we need to move people away outside of the outside.
Areas obviously a lot of real estate. Here make sure
everybody's safe sites first and foremost, players you, know they're
going to go back and it's a chance for them
to try to stay. Warm you, know they're going to
find out what do we need to know if this
doesn't look like an extended, Break try to stay, warm you,
know get on a, bike do, something just kind of
keep the heart rate, up keep pumping a little. Bit

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you don't want to do a full cool down and
then come back out half an hour later and get
right back on the treadmill that's going at five, speed you.
Know so they're probably looking at the radar just like
everybody else and taking, okay quick, break let's stay. Fresh
if you're playing, next you're not even thinking about getting
ready yet because you know you've got time before you're
gonna get back on. Court so there's kind of different
waves of doing. This and if you have the day,

(38:08):
off you're hoping you practiced early and you're back in
the hotel or you at the movie theater watching The
New Spider man.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Or, Something what if if there's any rain at, all
do they call?

Speaker 7 (38:18):
It?

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Or?

Speaker 13 (38:19):
Yeah you, know on this, surface especially the painted, lines
it gets slippery, fast you. Know and we had a
little bit of wiggle room today because we did have
some sun and that's asphalt under that, paint so it
does get. Hot so you can sometimes play through a
little bit of, sprinkle but it's not getting the surface.
Wet but any moisture on those painted, lines it becomes.
Slippery and you know how hard they're moving out, There

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like if there's any you spill water on a basketball,
court they're gonna stop.

Speaker 12 (38:43):
Playing make sure it's dried.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Up, yeah how Absorbed i'm gonna ask like nerdy, Questions,
now how absorbent is? That?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like how long until it's dry enough for players to?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Play?

Speaker 13 (38:51):
Yeah so we actually have, this it's probably four or
five year old technology called a vaptor, machine which actually
can suck the moisture off the court into a reservoir
and take it off rather than the old squeegees or.

Speaker 12 (39:01):
Something you're gonna get eighty to ninety percent more moisture
just moved off the.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Court CAN i borrow that from my?

Speaker 13 (39:06):
Basement, absolutely that might not be quite the weapon you
need for that, fight but well we can lend you
on for.

Speaker 12 (39:12):
Sure so that speeds it.

Speaker 13 (39:14):
Up in other, Conditions, hey if it passes through and
then the sun comes, out that's gonna.

Speaker 12 (39:18):
Help if there's a, breeze that's gonna. Help so with the.

Speaker 13 (39:21):
Faptor, machines we usually try to get out there within
about thirty minutes of the rain, stopping maybe forty if
conditions are cold and still really damp in the.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Air you have something very cool, tonight and the weather's
going to be a. Factor so maybe they're not going
to start at seven, o'clock but you get The williams
sisters on.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
The, court you, know.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Together her return To wimbledon this year on A tuesday,
Afternoon i'm going at a bar In. Milwaukee i'm there
to see The reds, play and folks WHO i would
imagine don't watch a whole lot of, tennis we're glued
to watching her, play this young lady From, australia and
she lost the, match but it was just so cool
to see her play.

Speaker 12 (39:56):
Again it's so exciting to have it.

Speaker 13 (39:59):
Back the energy around IT i happened to be At
wimbledon for that and it was just it really did
stop everything else that is. GOING i, mean this is
in the Middle World cup out of, way, yeah ye,
know and still that was the talk of the town
and it really is. Awesome this is actually the first
time in ten years they've played doubles outside of The
olympics Or Grand Sign. Wow so it's very cool that

(40:19):
it's happening. Here a lot of energy and. Excitement and
then to be drawn Against mason's Own peyton. Starts what
a cool local angle on. This it's gonna be exciting
AND i think there you, know we had a packed
house over in the Grand stand court last night For
Coco goth and again we should expect it tonight with
The williams sisters over, there and it just kind of
speaks to how much tennis there, is you. Know, yeah
grandstand ticket is arguably as good as the Stenterd court.

(40:41):
Ticket you, know there's just a lot to see Watching
serena Versus katie McNally In New york in twenty, nineteen
If i'm not, mistaken size, right, yeah in that, ballpark,
boy that was all and she won the first.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Set if my memory starts mixed.

Speaker 12 (40:55):
Out.

Speaker 13 (40:55):
Wow, yeah it's amazing to think about the longevity of
The williams, season just how long they've been out here
and the way they truly. Transcended they're beyond, tennis you,
Know serena in the Super bowl halftime show and everything
else that they've. Done and it's inspiring to see them
here and it's, exciting you, know AND i hope it's

(41:15):
for a. WHILE i hope this isn't just, hey this
is a twenty twenty sixth. Thing it'd be great to
see them try to continue to play.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
ON i became a fan Of serena here watching her
interact with, fans and we talked about. That you joined
me last, week and you, know the player, interaction you
can get up close to, them AND i mean many years,
AGO i watched her go from the practice court to
wherever she had to go, next and she had you,
know people around her security or, whoever but she stopped

(41:43):
and signed and was gracious to, people and.

Speaker 13 (41:45):
That for, me that goes a long. Way AND i
think that's we talked about. That you, know the players
respond to that energy they get from the fans here
In serena look she's had success, here she's been to
the final and, singles she's won back to back titles and.
Singles but she's at a point where life where she's
gonna choose where she goes to. Play AND i think
she's chosen to come here because she's had good on

(42:05):
and off court experiences here and it's comfortable for her
and it's a great opportunity to get out and get
a few matches on her a. Belt speaking To katie,
McNally she is supposed to be on the court right.
NOW i would imagine that's that's going to be pushed
to the. Evening it hopefully will actually be out pretty.
Soon so the match ahead of her is deep into
their third, set all, right and so they should wrap

(42:27):
up pretty soon and that should get her. Out so
hopefully she'll be out maybe in the five o'clock, Hour, okay,
Yeah so and that's out on court. Ten so, again
there's just so many matches going on. Today you, know
we've got matches going across seven. Courts it's and then
all the practice sessions that you talked, about, right you're
not playing. Today AND i think the other cool thing
is they're fans of everyone out. Here we just won't
in the, break so it came up he's rooting For Rinky,

(42:48):
hitchikata you. Know and that the other thing we have
the college basketball coming. Here there's some college tennis players out. There,
yeah you, Know we've GOT uva is very well represented. Today, Rafajodar,
Emminavarro Brandon nakashima won. Yesterday Diana schnader's on court right,
now she's Nc. State Arthur ferry's on court From. Stanford
so college tennis is really we're seeing a lot of

(43:11):
players come through the college ranks and play in the.
Program we're used to that in THE, nba And i'm
that is not that common in tennis in the last twenty.

Speaker 12 (43:19):
Years it's kind of coming back having.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Resurgence is that reflective of improved health for the game
overall in The United?

Speaker 13 (43:26):
STATES i think it reflects a lot of, things. HONESTLY i,
MEAN i think part of it is we've seen some
examples of it working. Well John isner is probably the best,
example like four years At university Of georgia and then
came out and had a long pro. CAREER i think
a lot of players sometimes gets hesitant to, think, hey twenty,
THREE i graduated twenty. Three that's kind of old on
The tinness, circuit you. Know but then you talk to

(43:47):
some of these players and they, Say i'm so glad
i Went eminavar is so glad she went to college
and that helped her get ready to do. This peyton
stearns her years In texas that helped her get ready
to be on the Pro tour and just learned some
life skills as. Well there is a trend to really
in all, SPORTS i, think to get so down the
path of one sport so early and then you commit
to that. Path and so the playing junior tournaments gets

(44:10):
you groomed to go play tournaments the rest of your
life rather than pause and go play in.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
College do You you may have a number on, this
and you may. Not But i've been here in years
Where i've met people from other parts of the planet
who are doing the double. Dip they'll come here and
then it's part of their like, Holiday they'll go To New, york,
Right and so do you are you able to like
tally from where else on? Earth people are coming To
cincinnati to watch?

Speaker 13 (44:33):
This, yeah we had all fifty states okay last, year
and then we also take a byres from sixty five different,
countries so it really is an international. Game AND i,
think you, know that's one of the great things about this.

Speaker 12 (44:43):
Event for the. Region we're showing Off cincinnati to the.
World we're broadcast in ninety.

Speaker 13 (44:47):
Countries this is going to reach far and, wide and
it's awesome to be able to show off the region
and you, know the players. Themselves we've got over thirty
countries represented in the player, field some of them for
the first. Time alex The alis playing in. Night the
excitement around her From filipinos around the world is. Amazing,
uh it's you, know we'll see a spike in web

(45:08):
traffic tonight because she's. Playing you, know that's with the time,
difference they're gonna be waking up on Their tuesday morning
and enjoying her match From. Cincinnati and it's it's amazing
because in a lot of these, countries tennis is up
there is a top three. Sport, SURE i think soccer
is probably number one in most. Countries tennis is two
or three in a lot of. Places and so you

(45:29):
see these players who come out and come from these
countries and they're the biggest sports hero from that. Country
and sure it's awesome to see when those fans come.
Out Joafon seka is another one From. Brazil the way
The brazilian fans come, out it's really cool to see
the way those nations just latch onto their players and
we see it. HERE i, mean, look we got so
Many americans playing well right. Now this is a home

(45:50):
game for. Them they love, it they want, that you. Know,
yeah that was a tough one for. Him that's a
Big it's so hard to do that double come off
From canada and back it up. Here, IgA you, know
did well to get through her match yesterday and then again,
today you, know to be backing up her title In,
Canada it's it's very hard to.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Do, YEAH i can't thank you enough for having.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Us we did this last week and it was.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Fine we worked with what we, had but to be
here with people around us and tennis being played at
least for much of the afternoon is is just. AWESOME
i love this event and, boy it's it's really cool
to come out here every.

Speaker 13 (46:29):
Year we appreciate you coming. Out there's a lot of
tennis still to be played this. Week we are running Through,
sunday the next three, today, Tomorrow, wednesday sixteen single matches,
each so a ton of. Tennis then we get into
the quarterfinals On thursday And, friday semifinals On, saturday and
then finals On. Sunday finals, weekend we're gonna unveil a
whole new, brand a logo and. Merchandise we're trying to

(46:50):
really elevate that, experience make it. Special so if you're
coming out, here you're gonna, say wait a, minute this
looks different than WHAT i saw in the first or second.

Speaker 12 (46:56):
Round that's. Intentional we want to really just have a
different experience for the.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Game it's one of the Great american tennis.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Weekends if you look ahead to semi Final saturday and Final.

Speaker 13 (47:05):
Sunday, yeah and it to play back to, back and
it's really there's so much on the line for these.

Speaker 12 (47:10):
Players this is a massive tournament for.

Speaker 13 (47:12):
Them so it's gonna be an exciting weekend and here
as you look at, It, okay, yes we've had some
guys not able to play because injury or to see
A djokovic.

Speaker 12 (47:20):
Lose if you're the rest of the, field you're in
this cocker room going.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Okay that's WHY i was disappointed from my guy last,
Night like, buddy let's.

Speaker 12 (47:28):
Go, yeah you, know and Soa.

Speaker 13 (47:29):
Zverev now he's got the, mantle he's got the. Pressure
the rest of these, players you have thirty one other
guys going uh, HUH i could do this four more, Match, yeah,
okay let's. Go let's do, this you, Know and so
they're they're trying to build up that belief, that, YEAH
i could be Finding New york Next monday with a
trophy next to me m and that it's gonna be

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awesome to. See and then the women's, side you got
a lot Of coco, sabalankas so many of those stall
where it's still.

Speaker 12 (47:56):
Playing, well we're baking is on court right. Now that's
gonna be a.

Speaker 13 (47:59):
Great and went the rest of the way because they're
all playing really well right now and no one's elevated
themselves and separated from the. Pack so it's gonna BE
i think it's really interesting to see who can come
through this.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
One how much of an expert since you took on
this role in weather radar have you.

Speaker 13 (48:14):
BECOME i have like seven different apps AND i never
trust any of. Them so a few of the local
meteorologists they're they're a couple who are tennis. Fans they'll
be back texting me from the stands, Like, Hey i'm
out here with my wife. TODAY i think this sell's
gonna be like twenty five minutes and then you guys
can dry really, quick, Right, yeah we'll be back, out don't. Worry, so,
yeah you're looking at all that and we you, know

(48:36):
the tours have their weather apps as, well but at
the end of the, day the best app is you
just hold your phone up and, Say, okay are there
drops on the?

Speaker 12 (48:43):
Screen, okay that's. Rain that's most.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
RELIABLE i know you're, swamped you have a lot going.
On you're always so good to. Us thank you, again
appreciate being out here and hope to see a lot
more of you through the rest of the. Week, man,
definitely you got. It appreciate. It Pete, Holtzeman cincinnati opened media.
Relations we continue eighteen after four. O'clock we are here
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Today we are under a weather delay here At mason
at The Cincinnati. Open no weather impacting the game Downtown. Cincinnati,
unfortunately The reds lost to two to, One Michael tolia
striking out looking to end the ball. Game red's got
some solid pitching work. Today they called upon a guy

(49:52):
Named Ken emanuel to make His red's debut and he. Was,
honestly he was about as good as you could. Expect
Alec burlison had a two run double in the first,
inning which play did the first two, runs so to,
speak and then the Three reds relievers came in and
didn't give up any. Runs, unfortunately The cincinnati offense was
limited to A Dane meyers, homer three hits, total and

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with the two to one, loss The reds will take
the field, tonight seven and a half games out of
the last wildcard. Spot we had over the weekend a
Former red calling Out ellie de La, cruz which we'll
get to a little bit later on some phone calls
coming up. Here hopefully in just a bit Plus brenneman
And jones on, baseball we'll have reaction to today's game from

(50:37):
gabp here in just a While brendanman And jones on
baseball as. Well we spend time On friday talking About Orlando.
Brown Orlando brown whipping on a block against a guy
by the name Of eric O'Neill who Hit Joe. Burrow
Joe goodberry was with us an hour, ago AND i
think he. ENCAPSULATED i think how you should feel about that. Moment,

(51:00):
yes this is preseason for a guy in his NINTH nfl, season.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
And so you, know maybe you don't.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Expect these guys to necessarily go through the, motions but
they're not playing the way they would play a game
or a snap that. Counted at the same, time when
it's your job to keep people off your star, quarterback
there's no such thing as a meaningless. Snap there are meaningless,
snaps maybe for wide, receivers maybe there's meaningless snaps for,

(51:27):
quarterbacks maybe there's meaningless snaps for guys On no such
thing as a meaningless snap when your job is to
Protect Joe burrow that. Snap if Your Orlando brown is
as meaningful in Mid august as it is in Mid.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
December i'll try to thread.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
The needle, here because in this day and age of no,
nuance it's either stop talking about, it stop paying attention to,
it no big. Deal Orlando brown is, fine Or Orlando
brown's a, bum and you got to figure out a
way to reply. Immediately for, me it's simply, This i'm
filing it. Away i'm filing it, away but it's not

(52:06):
a file that exists by. Itself filing Away Orlando brown
Versus eric. O'Neill it's Joining Orlando brown versus cash as,
How and on top of, That i'm filing it in
the same department or. COMPARTMENT i guess with some of
the moments we Saw orlando author last, year, look, man

(52:29):
here's the. Reality Orlando brown has never been a. Superstar
he's had a TERRIFIC nfl. Career he's played for a long,
time he's helped teams win by all, accounts wonderful, guy
very good career for the most, part very. Durable but,
like we're not talking about a superstar. Player we're not
talking about a guy who has ever really been regarded.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
As one of the elite left tackles in.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Football he's usually been a guy with a little bit
of a low, ceiling, Right so you, know just giving
him the benefit of the doubt and ignoring what we
saw On. Thursday to, me that's something you reserve for
a player who's maybe closer to his athletic, prime or

(53:11):
for a guy, who over the course of his career
has been a better.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Player if you look at his and.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
This is just one, metric His Pro Football focus, rankings
he's never been rated among the elite left tackles in the,
sport and over the last couple of years there has
been a steady decline in how he has been, graded
which means there is a greater likelihood of moments like
we saw On thursday manifesting themselves in regular season games

(53:38):
in twenty twenty, six then say in twenty twenty two
or twenty twenty. Three BUT i think the real problem
is you could talk, about, WELL i don't have a
lot of faith In Orlando. Brown what else shuld god at?
Tackle they're already Moving Cody ford A. Uranunna they're gonna
Try Jalen rivers at. TACKLE i guess swing tackle is

(53:59):
a position that we tell talked about a lot during the.
Offseason we just talked about it With Joe. Goodberry so
it's one thing to express a degree of concern About Orlando.
Brown All i'm gonna do is tell you THAT i
think there's a world where he's the weak link on
the offensive. LINE i think that has the potential to
be reflective of how good the rest of the offensive line,
is but also a year's long trend continuing Over Orlando brown.

(54:22):
Regressing if that regression continues to the point that you
want to make a move and play somebody, else, cool
what else you? Got AND i think that's the. Problem
it's not just That Orlando brown. Whift it's not just
that he had a bad. Snap and maybe by Mid,
October Orlando brown having a bad snap against The Detroit

(54:42):
lions is a twenty twenty six version Of Jamar chase
not being able to catch passes.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
In preseason games and his rookie.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Year the sort of thing that you spend a lot
of time on In august and By october everybody's forgotten
about it because the guy is playing really.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Well but you.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Find away and you, go, okay maybe he makes us
forget about, this or maybe what we saw On, thursday
reoccurs a little bit more frequently than you would, like
and you, know the year's long regression, continues and if it,
does and if things bought him out for the player
at that, position and you want to talk about playing
somebody else right, now it doesn't feel like there's a

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viable alternative among the.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Backups that is a bigger.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Problem or as big of a problem at least As
Orlando brown whipping on a block against a guy who
was undrafted twenty nine minutes after four. O'clock Zach cosar
called Out ellie de La cruz yesterday and social media
will spend some time on. That And Tony pike with
another live training camp. Report where at The Cincinnati open
today where the sun is not really peeking, Out but

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Com reds lose again today AT gabp two to. One
cincinnati got three, Hits Dane myers And homer Representing cincinnati's only.
Offense Ken emanuel gave up a two run double To
Alec burlison in the top of the first. Inning that
was All Saint louis needed to won the final. Score
reds now six count them six games under five hundred
and seven and a half games Behind San diego And

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philadelphia for the last wildcard. Spot game two of the doubleheader,
Tonight Rhet louder throws For cincinnati Against Andre. Blante six
forty is a first pitch Of game, two though it
Is i'm told reigning really, really really. Hard downtown saw
the post game show With Brian geeson's log And Sam
lecieran behind, him the tarp already on the. Field we

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college football ap to top twenty five preseason poll released earlier,
today The Ohio State buckeyes number, one followed up By, Oregon,
Georgia Notre dame In texas one through, Five indiana, sixth and.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
The Louisville cardinals twenty.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Fourth no votes for my beloved you See, bearcats and
we are under a weather delay here at The Cincinnati
open although the skies.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
To our northeast seem to be. Clearing that is good.
News that is good.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
News Tony pike again coming up in just a few,
minutes Plus brenneman And jones on. Baseball we also have
to get to the, silly and it is Silly Terry
francona leaving out an important detail when it comes To
NICK ladhlt. Yesterday but we've got folks. WAITING i don't
want to make people wait any.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Longer.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Mark you're ON espn fifteen. Thirty, mark good, Afternoon how
are you?

Speaker 14 (58:09):
Good thank. YOU i want to make a comment why
The castelinis are the luckiest owners In Major League? Baseball,
okay and the reason they are is simply because mcclaim
in de La cruz both turned down contracts that they'll
never see. Again nobody is going to give de La
cruz thirty five million a year for ten. YEARS i

(58:32):
know he's a potential, superstar but if you look at
his stats at this, point he has done nothing to
rate that kind of, money and there's no indication he's
going to turn it. Around and he is terrible. DEFENSIVELY i,
MEAN i go, BACK i can go back To roy,
McMillan AND i can't think of a worse fielding shortstop.

Speaker 15 (58:54):
Than de La.

Speaker 14 (58:55):
Cruz and he looks like a nervous. Wreck maybe the
money that he turned down is laying on his mind
and he can't focus on the.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
GAME i think you're wrong ABOUT i THINK i THINK i.
THINK i think you're wrong about What elie Dela cruz
is going to command on the open. MARKET i think
you're dead on about What matt McLain would, command either
with The reds or anywhere. Else matt, McLain i'm, sure
spends a lot of time lamenting the fact that he
didn't sign the contract that The reds offered. HIM i

(59:23):
feel very confident in saying that When elie de La
cruz hits free agency at the end of the twenty
twenty nine, season when he is still going to be
in his mid, twenties that someone is going to help
him break the.

Speaker 14 (59:34):
Bank but what has he done to this point to
make you think. That there's a lot of everybody talks
about what a great player he, is but.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
He has done nothing nothing he, look do DO i?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
DO i go? Ahead the batting, Averages, Well i'm, MARK
i didn't hear the tale to be on the tail
end of what you. Said what did you? Say?

Speaker 14 (59:58):
OKAY i, said, basically in four years he's a hit
between eighteen and twenty two home runs in two sixty
five to two seventy five batting. Averages that is not
thirty five million dollars a. Year The yankees are not that.
Stupid The dodgers are not that. STUPID i, mean if
he hit three twenty with thirty five home, runs that
would be one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Thing, well nobody, bats nobody bats three twenty. ANYMORE i,
mean you, know AND i wish they. Did nobody bats
three twenty. Anymore so no one's going to care if
he doesn't bad three. TWENTY i, THINK i mean number, one,
LOOK i he could be frustrating on, defense and he
is certainly going through a batting slump right. Now those
things are. Inarguable that, SAID i think there's a lot
of metrics that would point to his market. Improvement on,

(01:00:43):
defense he still has moments like we saw yesterday that
can frustrate and if he truly wants to be one
of the elite players in the, game then the nonchalance
we saw in the throw in the ninth inning we
can't have. THAT i think he's become a better hitter
from the right side to the. Plate he is on
pace to exceed his career high in home runs he

(01:01:05):
has this, year even with the current slump that he is.
In HIS ops is over fifty points higher from his career.
Average he has in many ways been a better hitter
this year if you want to look at batting, average
and again this is taking into account the fact that
over the last week he's something like two for his
last twenty, seven he's hitting higher this year than he

(01:01:25):
has for his entire. Career he is a very good.
Player is he a legitimate superstar LIKE pca Or shohei O?
Tani absolutely not DO i think most in the, sport
but at the age of twenty, four still bet on
him getting to that pantheon of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Players, absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:01:44):
You, know, MO i respect. YOU i think you're the
best talk show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Host Sir, is that's. KIND i.

Speaker 14 (01:01:49):
SWEAR i think you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Drinking but but part of it.

Speaker 14 (01:01:55):
Is pitch he. Misses he, is you, know, bench And
i'm one of those that lives in the, past Bench Vado.
KLEZOUSKI i can go back as far as you. Want
they could put a team on their shoulders and carry.
It they could hit in the, clutch. Clutch he has

(01:02:15):
never done, that never been a clutch. Hitter when he
comes up in a crucial, situation strike, one take the second,
pitch third pitch is, called and the fourth pitches are
swinging a. Miss that's been his operation since he since
he's been with The. Reds he's never been able to
hit in the, clutch and he's never never been able

(01:02:37):
to carry the. Team having said, that this lineup is
so pathetically, sad it's, Ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Well, again you'll get in AND i appreciate the night's. Words.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Mark you'll get no argument for me on how bad
the lineup. Is and you're right About ellie this year
in the. Clutch if you look at his late and close,
stats they're not very. GOOD i do think he has
made improvements as a. HITTER i think the reflective the,
numbers which are better than they've been for the majority
of his. CAREER i do think he has made large
improvements on. DEFENSE i no longer hold my breath when

(01:03:08):
the ball is hit to. Him advanced defensive metrics love.
Him you could do whatever you want with. Those but,
look he's twenty four years. Old between now and the
end of the twenty twenty nine, season which is when
he could be a free agent, NOW i personally believe
The reds will probably trade him at the end of
the twenty twenty eight season to get something for. Him
he'll be a free agent at the age of twenty.

(01:03:30):
Seven he is an elite. Athlete if the improvement, continues and,
again he is a better player this year than he
was last, season taking into account that he is in
the middle of a slump right, now which it'd be
cool if his manager actually gave him a day. Off
if the improvement we have seen, continues there is no
doubt in my mind he will have lots of suitors

(01:03:51):
who want to pay him what the market dictates a
guy Like elie de La cruz is going to, get
and what the market dictates a guy Like elie de
La cruz is going to get is a ton of.
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Baseball just a minute, Away Tony pike is with his
latest On bengals training. Camp no practice, Today they're back
at it tomorrow. Morning this is a big week for
a lot of, players and we talked last hour about
some guys who have things to build, on Like Dante.
Myers it's also going to be a big week for
a handful of guys who maybe took a little bit
of a step back in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Game i'm gonna Start tony With Charlie.

Speaker 11 (01:04:49):
Jones, yeah AND i don't even know if It's Charlie
jones taking a step back or others just taking a
bigger leap. Ahead you, Know Charlie jones is never going
to give you that elite wide receiver. Production but he's
always been solid in the return. Game BUT i wonder
if they may have more explosiveness in the return game

(01:05:11):
with some of these other players that are vying for roster.
Response Charlie jones is a unique one because it's not
like he went out and performed. TERRIBLY i just think
you've got a lot of other good skill position players
that are competing for now his roster spot and making
bigger splash.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
PLAYS i think it's also an important week For TODs.

Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
Brooks yeah, see now that's the opposite Of Charlie. JONES
i THOUGHT. Todj brooks hurt. HIMSELF i didn't think the
burst was. THERE i think the vision isn't quite what you.
Want and if you want to be a successful running
back in THE, nfl especially in The bengals, offense you
got to be able to catch passes out of the.
Backfield and he dropped two. Opportunities AND i know it was,
raining but he dropped two opportunities that were presented to

(01:05:50):
him in the passing game as. WELL i thought he
was putting himself in position for a bigger. Role now
you wonder is he playing himself off the roster. Completely
it's a massive week For TODs brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And i'll add one more to. IT i won't single
in on one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Guy we'll talk about a bunch pretty much every backup
offensive lineman not Named Brian parker Or Connor.

Speaker 16 (01:06:12):
Loo.

Speaker 11 (01:06:13):
Yep this to me is a massive, week not Only
tomorrow But thursday with The bears coming into town on
having to make a decision within your. Organization do you
have the depth necessary if something were to happen on
the offensive, line or based on your evaluations and the,
film do you need to go out and find that

(01:06:33):
in free agency via a trade or those waiver wire
moves that are going to be made that other teams
are going to be releasing offensive. LINEMEN i Think tomorrow
And thursday are your big evaluation days on what you
need to do with the offensive line before now and
The Tampa Bay bucks come into.

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Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Update of the.

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Somewhere all, right five minutes after five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
O'clock this IS espn fifteen Thirty, Moegger thanks for listening.
Today hopefully you've had an Awesome. Monday we've had.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
A Great monday because we've been broadcasting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
From an event THAT i, love The Cincinnati. Opening, yeah
we were here last, week but there was no, tennis
there were no, fans there was a lot of weather
that was. Bad we've had a lot of weather, today
but play is resuming and should be a fun night of.
Tennis and you, KNOW i always like it when we
broadcast the show just mere feet away from a. Bar

(01:07:46):
we are in the top deck bar here at The
Elnner Tennis. Center folks here always hospitable to. Us we
have a lot to get to this. Hour one more
check in With Tony. Pike reds lose two to one
to The cardinals, Today game one of a, Doubleheader game
one of a five game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Series, look this has been an unfun. Year call it
what it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Is there have been high, Points CHASE byrns Sal stewart most,
notably but this feels like the season once and for.
All circling the Dream saturday night felt like more than
just a. Loss yesterday felt LIKE i will never accuse
a team or a player of not, Trying but if

(01:08:26):
you wanted a game that you could point to his
evidence that maybe the team wasn't totally locked, in that
would be. It today they lose to. ONE a guy
by the name Of Kent emmanuel made the. Start he pitched,
credibly gave up two runs in the first, Inning Alec
burlison with a two run. Double they lose the game
again because they don't Hit Dane myers with a solo.

(01:08:46):
Homer beyond that two other Hits game two of the
double headers. Tonight they're now seven and a half games
out of the wildcard and if you have been considering
them to be in, contention the one thing that was
GONNA i don't, Know. Bolster your argument was they've got
some teams in front of them that they can make
up ground on and some beatable teams that share a

(01:09:09):
similar profile that they can take care of before the
schedule gets really hard when they have to play teams
like The cubs and The dodgers and The. Brewers by
the way to just see what The brewers they did
The dodgers this. WEEKEND la is having a hard time
beating anybody who's. Good but they're seven and a half
back man, like so they'll play game two. Tonight maybe

(01:09:33):
they can make up some. GROUND i don't. Know Here's
Terry francona after today's loss AT.

Speaker 16 (01:09:38):
GABP i mean, early the, kid their guy had a
good change, up and we've made him through a ton of,
pitches but we only had the one to show for,
it On myer's home. Run but we got him out,
early and then after that they just went one ending
with their pen and we just we weren't able to

(01:10:01):
get anything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Going pleasantly surprised what you got the, CANAL.

Speaker 16 (01:10:06):
I mean the, game the way the game. Started you,
know he hits the first guy in the, foot we
got first and second before he can even breathe gives
up the double and then hung in there like very
proud of, him and he gave us everything he. Had
this is a stream.

Speaker 9 (01:10:22):
Of good addicts for the, Least, nay BUT i know
behind the scenes there's been a lot of. Work whether
you see.

Speaker 16 (01:10:29):
You're at Fastball, Command i'd say it starts there and ends.
There it's it's got so much movement he doesn't have
to necessarily always. Locate he just throws it over that white.
Thing he's gonna be, okay what are you seeing from dale?

Speaker 9 (01:10:46):
Criers and he struggles off that.

Speaker 16 (01:10:47):
Team, yeah you, KNOW i mean you. COULD i think
it's kind of. Telling even the one he, challenged ball
had the whole. Plate sometimes you kind of lose where
you are thinks like sometimes Ball an he thinks is,
in it's a. Strike he just going through a tough
time right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Now so there's a lot to talk about as it
relates to The reds And Tito francona And elie de La,
cruz so a few different. Things that Was tito after
today's game two to one loss to The. Cardinals So
nicolodolo pitched yesterday and pitched, well but came out after

(01:11:22):
seventy three pitches and five, Innings and after the, Game
Terry francona said, quote when a pitcher Says i've had,
It i'll never send him back, out which would strongly
suggest that after seventy three, Pitches nickolodolo, said, Hey i'm tapped.
Out skip got a call upon the bullpen like that's
WHEN i WHEN i Saw tito after the game, Yesterday

(01:11:43):
that's that's WHAT i, thought, Like, okay, Well nickolodolo, said,
Skip i'm. Done but it was curious to, me like
he came off the angure, list he had one rehab.
Start it would make sense if like there was a
little bit more there than met the, eye like a
restriction or a limitation to the number of pitches That
Nick lidolo is throwing in that. Start, well as it turned,

(01:12:09):
out after the, game Nick lidolo was asked about you
know why he came out after five innings and seventy five,
pitches and he, SAID i would like to go six,
innings especially with what we have, tomorrow BUT i understand
it and it's a. Process WOULD i have liked to

(01:12:29):
have pitched six? Innings, YEAH i only had two more
pitches to work with. Anymore, ANYWAY i THINK i had
a cap at seventy five to eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Pitches this according To Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Petrelia so the manager says, effectively AND i could have
played the audio there and been a good radio host
and SAID i read.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
It but the manager is, saying, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah the pitcher came to me and said skip Or i'm,
done and the pitcher is, saying we had a limit
to the number of PITCHES i was gonna, throw AND
i was pretty close to. It So tito says what he,
says and what happens instantly Is nicolodolo takes a ton
of crap from, fans AND i will admit to YOU

(01:13:11):
i would have done.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Ordinarily if a pitcher just said after seventy five or
seventy three, Pitches i'm, done you're in the thick of
a wild card. Race although it's it's kind of hard
to call it that with a straight. Face you have
a doubleheader, today it's forever before and off. Day they
don't Have Hunter. Green if, ever there was a moment
where you would ask your, pitcher, DUDE i, know maybe

(01:13:35):
you're nearing the finish, line but can you come out
there and give us at least one more, inning it
would be. That but if the organization, says if there
is an agreement by the brain, trust well he's only
gonna throw seventy five to eighty, pitches that's an entirely different.
Story so a few things here you can't. Help but
wonder a was the manager of the team unaware of

(01:13:59):
the fact That nicolodolo had a limit of seventy five,
pitches because if, so kind of a. Problem the manager
of the team has no, idea because if he did,
know then why wouldn't he just after the game say, well,
Look nicolodolo is a tough kid and wants to, pitch
but he is just coming off the injury, list and
so we had a. Limit he was pretty much close to.

(01:14:21):
It that's why we didn't bring. Him like he put
it on the, player he put it on the. Pitcher
and because he puts it on the, pitcher the pitcher
now takes a ton of crapham fans who were, like,
dude you're, soft you're not, tough you're not a team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Guy what on?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Actuality it feels like there's a very good chance that
the decision was made before the. Start he's not gonna
throw more than seventy five. Pitches so either the manager
for some reason left out that minor, detail Or nickolodolo is,
lying or the manager didn't. Know, Now i'm gonna Give
nickolodolo the benefit of the doubt that he's not. LYING
i would have a hard time believing that he would say,

(01:14:56):
YEAH i had a pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
LIMIT i was gonna tap.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
SAT i don't. Know Maybe i'm Giving nick something he doesn't.
Deserve maybe it's a convenient excuse. EXPLANATION i JUST i
find it hard to believe That Nick ladolo would make,
up oh, YEAH i wasn't gonna throw more than seventy five,
pitches knowing that the people he's talking to in the.
Clubhouse reporters could then go To Terry, francona could then
go To Nick crawl could then go to the acting

(01:15:22):
pitching coach and confirm That nick was on a pitch.
Limit SO i am gonna Give nick the benefit of the,
Doubt So i'm crossing that off as a. Possibility so
then we're left with Either Terry francona chose to leave
out pretty important, detail, which by leaving it, out subjects
his picture to criticism that he probably doesn't, deserve or
the manager of the team had no. Idea the guy's

(01:15:44):
under a pitch. Limit this is A hall Of fame.
Manager this is not a guy in his first year
on the. Job this is a dude revered for his communication.
Skills what are we, Doing, like there's three possible outcomes,
here one doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Likely the other two aren't great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Either the manager of the team couldn't communicate effectively that
the dude had a number of pitches he was gonna
throw no matter, what and that's why they took him
out of the, game or he decided to leave out that,
fact or he had no. Idea neither are, Cool neither are.
Excusable neither are becoming of a manager Of Terry francona.
Stature there's also This ellie Dela cruz makes an error

(01:16:30):
yesterday on a ball that's hit right to, him and
he took a sweet time getting the ball to first,
base and it was an air and throw and it
helped open the flood gates in the ninth. Inning AND
i Love ellie de La. CRUZ i love watching him.
Play there are fewer of those moments this year than
we've seen in the, past but we saw one yesterday
and it can't happen like whether it's a lapse in,

(01:16:50):
concentration whether it's taking the speed of the runner for,
granted whether it's, laziness whether it's poor, fundamentals whatever it,
is that's a play that a big league stop has to,
make and an elite caliber player makes. Consistently now we
could say that and Acknowledge ellie has improved in many respects,
defensively and he's going through a tough time at the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Plate he looks like a guy who could use a day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Off but in the immediate, aftermath that video went, viral
And Zach cozart retweeted it and, wrote, Lazy now let
me get this part out of the. Way until about
eight thirty this, MORNING i had no Idea Zach cozart
was On. TWITTER i Guess Zach cozart tweets about a

(01:17:38):
lot of things that aren't baseball. RELATED i don't. CARE
i don't do culture. Wars if he's tweeting about culture,
wars that ain't my. Jam i'm not gonna suddenly start
Following Zach cozart On. TWITTER i don't think he was
that interesting as a. Player i'm gonna guess not too
interesting as a next. Player but you know, what my
thought was, Good Like Zach coser was a fine? Shortstop

(01:18:03):
was he the caliber of player Of Ellie, delacruz know
though he had his moments The donkey year where he
made The All Star, Game but.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
You know, what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Good because it feels, like AND i say this as
an Enormous Ellie delacruze, fan it feels like when he makes,
mistakes we have to tiptoe around. It and this was
the case two years ago When ellie would do something
on the bass pads and kind of cross that line

(01:18:32):
from aggressive to, stupid or when he's made plays in
the field that or failed to make plays in the
field that you kind of feel like he should that
maybe his failure to make the play has seemed at
times effort. Related it feels like we kind of tiptoe around,
it pussy foot around. It we're afraid to say. It
it has felt like at times like there's a reluctance
to Hold Ellie delacruz. Accountable ellie has played in every

(01:18:55):
game he's been healthy for this. Year i've not yet
seen tonight's starting. Lineup he let off, Today maybe they
give him the night. Off last year he played every
single day despite not being one hundred. Percent Terry francona
this offseason, said, well that was a. Mistake we're gonna
give him regular days. Off, well he hasn't had one
aside from the time that he wasn't. Healthy why Because

(01:19:16):
ellie wants to play every. Day they don't tell him,
No like it feels like they don't tell him. No
it feels like they treat him with delicacy THAT i
don't know that many other players on the team are treated.
WITH i think it's actually kind of refreshing that somebody
who played the position at a really high level for
this team is willing to go like that play how

(01:19:38):
you handle it not.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
ACCEPTABLE i don't know if lazy's the right, word but
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Nonchalant it certainly didn't look, urgent and it might be
reflective of him being worn down because he does play every,
day or the fact that his batting slump is getting to.
Him BUT i saw, that AND i saw, that AND
i knew nothing About Zach cozard's history On, TWITTER i
do not. CARE i do Know Zach cozard played shortstop

(01:20:03):
at a high level for a pretty long, time meaning
he's one of the handful of people on the planet
qualified to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Talk About Ellie Dela cruz's play at.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Shortstop, AGAIN i don't know THAT i would have used
the word, lazy but it feels like With Ellie Dela,
cruz everybody just is afraid to call him out or
criticize him when he is deserving of. It, he's by
all accounts an awesome. Guy he is an immensely talented.
Player he is uber fun to. Watch IF i had my,
Way Ellie Dela cruz would play the rest of his

(01:20:33):
career as a. Rent even when they are, Bad ellie
is worth. WATCHING i will go to the ballpark in
the final month or so of the season despite the
fact the team is not going to be in it
BECAUSE i love Watching Ellie Dela. Cruz but that moment
yesterday should be called. Out who's more equipped to call him?
Out who's more qualified to call him?

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Out? Me, you some randos On twitter or a guy
who played the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Position and If Zach cozart's not gonna call him, out that's.
Cool will somebody because it does feel like With ellie
de La cruz there has at times been a lack
of willingness to not blast him in. Public don't expect
a manager to do, that but we talked about the
end Of David bell's time In. Cincinnati from this, perspective
among many, others Boy ellie makes a lot of. Mistakes

(01:21:19):
how come they go? UNCORRECTED i don't know that that
theme isn't still dominating or at least part of The
Terry francona administration or regime or a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Tenure SO i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
MAN i had no problem with a former big league
shortstop weighing in on a current big league shortstop and
how he's, playing because if nobody else, is let somebody
Like Zach cozart do. It didn't have a major issue with.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
IT i think him in the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Minority your thoughts are welcoming five point, three seven four,
nine fifteen. Thirty there's also the you, Know ellie plays
every day Because ellie wants to play everything, like you're
allowed to tell the, guy, no you're allowed to coach the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Guy you're allowed to correct the. Guy you're all, again man,
LIKE i love the. Dude this isn't lazy Anti ellie.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Conjecture you're allowed to tell the, Guy, hey today you're
gonna take the day, off or at the very least
today you're going to dh. Like there's a long history
in this sport of players gaining benefit from not playing
a certain. Day Ellie Dela. Cruz in the long and
storied history of this, franchise a lot of great players

(01:22:24):
that got occasional days. Off ellie can't can't benefit from.
It you, know you watched him wear down toward the
end of the season last. Year he looks like he's
wearing down. Now he plays every single. Day are They
are they afraid to tell him?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
No are they afraid to hold him?

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Accountable isn't it kind of refreshing to see somebody with
a high, profile not some anonymous dude on the, internet
not somebody who's got their name and like nine different
numbers in their, handle somebody putting his name on, it
somebody putting his name on, it who's more qualified than
almost any.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
PERSON a lot to offer.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
A critique On Ellie Dela cruise's play At shortstop twenty
minutes after five, o'clock we can end once and for
all A bengals. Narrative that's next ON espn.

Speaker 10 (01:23:13):
Fifteen, Thirty CINCINNATI'S espn fifteen Thirty track him and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
How about guaranteed humid huh Giranty cincinnati. Opened we're undercover,
though and hopefully the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Rain stays away.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Tonight we got folks waiting on, hold AND i want
to get to everybody who's waiting this, Segment so let's
uh let's get right to. It, Chuck you're ON espn fifteen.
Thirty good, Afternoon, Chuck how are you?

Speaker 15 (01:23:39):
Afternoon, well BEFORE i give you The red's ultimate lineup,
TONIGHT i didn't see it, posted BUT i remember it's
amrable That cruz wants to play every. Game BUT i
remember back in the day when you, Know Joey bono
didn't go through too many, sums but when he was
like two for nineteen or, Something Dusty baker what, all
especially if it was a game before a day. Off
he'd always said me to clear his head And joeyvonna

(01:23:59):
would go back to.

Speaker 17 (01:24:00):
Normal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Yeah by the, Way ellie is playing, time of course he.

Speaker 15 (01:24:04):
Is, YEAH i just you anything light up here and
see if this is the worst lineup in the history
of The reds and sent throughout of, it he might
as well just do. IT i Got friedo in, Center,
okay claim it's, Second, okay the Age suarez a, Short
trevino are Big bopper at the fifth, spot Uh taglio at,
First barty and, Right rodriguez and, left and of Course

(01:24:29):
Cabrian hayes at. Third oh, yeah you think? That could
you think that could be the official worst line up
in the history of the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Organization, well you, KNOW i was here for the twenty, fifteen,
sixteen seventeen and eighteen, seasons but those teams at least
Had Joey vado.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Putting up really good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Numbers the best hitter in that lineup this season IS
Jj bleda and, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:24:55):
At six out of nine guys under two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Hundred So dela crue is, playing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
But, Suarez, totleia, McClain, Rodriguez trevino And friedol are all.
Playing rodriguez may prove to be very, good but two
for his first twenty three.

Speaker 15 (01:25:13):
You, know, yeah in the spirit of, IT.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
I i, DON'T i don't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
UNDERSTAND i admire the fact That ellie wants to play
every single.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Day that is.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Great you want guys who want to go every single.
Day you're allowed to tell Him ellie to play every day.

Speaker 15 (01:25:28):
Too BUT i, mean you, know when you when you
see a guy, going you, know throw his battle over the,
place he clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yes, YEAH i.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
DON'T i don't understand why they can't tell him. No
and it was it's one thing this year when he's
going through you would you Hire Terry francona because of
his ability to look At ellie de La cruz and
have a tough conversation with him and go look for
your benefit and for our, benefit you're not going to play.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Today take a, seat clear your, head enjoy the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Time you're Back, tomorrow you're going to be leading off
and you're gonna be my short. STOP i do not
understand the unwillingness to do. That if there's anybody in
the sport that would have the cachet to be able
to look At ellie Dela cruz and tell them you're
not going to play, today it's supposed to Be Terry
francona and he refuses to do.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
It.

Speaker 15 (01:26:15):
YEAH i wasn't the Biggest Dusty baker, fan but he
did that with a bottle all the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Time, yeah it, Doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
CHUCK i appreciate the phone, call LIKE i get, it,
Man like all they should play every Single when a
guy is not performing, well he's not helping the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Team there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Long history of players better Than ellie Dela cruz getting
an occasional day and it benefiting them and by, extension the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Team, mike you're ON espn fifteen. Thirty go, ahead.

Speaker 18 (01:26:41):
How you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Doing i'm, well what's?

Speaker 18 (01:26:43):
UP i, agree, MAN i blame this On Frank kona
one hundred. Percent he should have the right to sit
de La cruz. Down Myriod. H i don't understand. It
confused about the whole. Thing AND i would think That Frank,

(01:27:09):
COONa being who he, is good step up and just
said him amongst a couple other. PLAYERS i Think steve.
Breaks but it is what it. Is Frank. COONa i
can't see that he's fearful to do, it or if

(01:27:32):
he thinks somebody in the higher up is gonna maybe say.
Anything if he afraid to do, It i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Confused.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Well and the thing, is by his own admission this,
offseason by his own, admission the way he Handled ellie
last year wasn't the right. Approach and so you, know
he talked on multiple occasions about how this YEAR i
got to give him days and this YEAR i gotta
be more cognizant of you, know we're he is physically
and we Made i'm paraphrasing him. Here we may dah,

(01:28:03):
him we may just give him a day where he's
not playing at, all But i've got to do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
That this year he said he was going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
This he has so far shown a total unwillingness to do,
it and SO i can't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
HELP i can't, help but wonder WHY i.

Speaker 18 (01:28:18):
Wonder the same thing anotter one way of, saying, YEAH i.
DON'T i also don't understand in today's, game the five.
Inning it seems like when these pictures get to that fifth,
Inning frank trying to just no matter what the vision

(01:28:41):
the game is, in he wants to pull. Him and
what happened to the sixth seven eight inning, guy the
sixth seven eight inning. Starter, uh you, know with the
exception of our one, PITCHER i just don't see.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
That with The.

Speaker 18 (01:29:00):
REDS i never see a bitcher go over five.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Anything, well they've had they've had some starts recently where you,
know Obviously Chase burns has gone. Seven Chase burns On
friday was. Awesome they've Let Brady singer get through a.
Six BUT i think part of that is just the
way the game is run and manage now where there
is a reluctance to have a picture get to the
batting order a third. Time and The reds are not

(01:29:26):
the only team THAT i think you see that reflected With.
MIKE i appreciate the. Call Other, mike you're ON espn fifteen.
Thirty go, Ahead.

Speaker 17 (01:29:36):
I'm, well, thanks appreciate. It you're. Welcome can't ever see
that commercial ON tv here over the last few months
where it's putting like mildew or something and the family's
in there and they, go, damn what does that? Smell
and then the white, goes, damn what is that? Smell
and then the little kid, goes, damn what is that?

(01:29:58):
Snow and the dad goes language. Language that's how The
reds are right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Now they.

Speaker 17 (01:30:07):
Smell Brom austin brought up a good point. Today Sal
stewart should be playing third. Base he should have been
playing third base since he got. Here that's his. Position
that's what he played typically coming up through the. Ranks
you you know this as well AS i. Do most
teams third basemans are are typically productive, offensively if not

(01:30:33):
a lot of home? Runs, right who's afferent like? You
sounds like Mister.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Stewart to me and sounds like the exact opposite of
Key Brian, Hayes and so to, me everything starts with the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
With as as as it relates to what you're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
About everything starts with the decision to trade for and Pay.
Mike thank you for the phone, call trade for and
Pay Key Brian. HAYES i believe Sal stewart's future is
at third, base but LIKE I, I i don't know
what they're gonna do With Key Brian. HAYES i didn't
understand the trade when they did. IT i haven't understood

(01:31:11):
a lot of things as it relates to The. Reds
but the thing THAT i get the least Is Key Brian.
Hayes Sala stewart played first base to start the season
and has played it, okay but played first base to
start the season because they Had Key Brian. HAYES i
think it makes all the sense in the world to
Pay Key Brian hayes to go away and move sal
over to third BECAUSE i agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
YOU i, mean number, one you just need more. Hitters
Key Brian hayes isn't a good.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Hitter number, two the ball isn't hit to you enough
at third base to justify great, field no. Hit i'd
rather Have Salas stewart at third. Base he should be playing,
there by the, way for what it's, worth he is
playing second base. Tonight Joe goodbury on The bengals.

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Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Today Dane meyers hit a. Homer Alec burlison had a
two run. Double reds got free hits seven and a
half games out of the. Wildcard game two of the double. Dip,
Tonight Rhet lauder And Andrea Plante Ella Dela cruz will
play because his manager never gives him a game. Off,
Meanwhile bengals did not practice. Today back in the practice
field tomorrow at ten a. M we have The tony

(01:32:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Fourth we are at The Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Open we thank the folks here for their, hospitality and
we thank our Guy Joe goodberry From bengals on the
brain from joining. Us let's, uh let's let's talk About thursday.
NIGHT i think the thing that stood out to so
many of us was how good the rookies who played?
Looked how ready is The bengals rookie class to contribute
when the games actually?

Speaker 9 (01:33:09):
Count man that first preseason.

Speaker 8 (01:33:12):
GAME i don't know if we've had a debut for
an entire class like that, ever, RIGHT i can't. REMEMBER
i remember bits and pieces of each rookie throughout three
or four preseason, games all showing, up all having their,
moments but everyone that played had an, impact had a splash.
PLAY i, mean starting From cash's howl in his spin
move half. SACK i don't know if you even got

(01:33:32):
credited for, it but he had a couple of wins
as a pass. RUSHER i thought he set the edge
well on one run defense. Play Landon robinson was a
talk of the game. Afterwards he was active throughout the entire,
game played thirty two.

Speaker 9 (01:33:44):
Snaps we should have, been but he stood.

Speaker 8 (01:33:46):
OUT i, thought in, general the entire class found From
kash's howel who's your top?

Speaker 9 (01:33:52):
Pick down To Brian parker And Jack entries And Landon.

Speaker 8 (01:33:54):
Robinson your last, picks everyone had an impact check, injuries
had a.

Speaker 9 (01:33:58):
Touchdown he looked good.

Speaker 8 (01:33:59):
Blocking parker played left guard and center with the twos and.
Threes he looked very.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Good to.

Speaker 8 (01:34:04):
Me that looks like a future starting. Guard that's WHAT
i thought he was coming. Out So i'm very happy
to see first test was. Passing AND i just, think in,
general could they play right? AWAY i think many of them.
Can it's going to be interesting to see how many,
do because a lot of these picks were at positions
where they had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Depth Is Brian parker already their best backup offensive lineman
and does that say more about him or the other
guys that make up the twos and?

Speaker 8 (01:34:28):
Threes he, is and it says a lot about, him,
because LIKE i, SAID i thought he was worthy of
a late second to, third no later than fourth round,
Pick so to get him in the SIXTH i thought
was extreme. Value to, me he looks like a Future
Clint bowling level type. Guard so ask me again in
three years.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
And we may just, say, yeah he's that. Guy and you, Know,
joe you were right once in a while that that'd be.

Speaker 8 (01:34:48):
Nice but, NO i do think it looks bad On
Jalen rivers as well because he got beat pretty.

Speaker 9 (01:34:55):
Poorly after watching, tape there was a couple other plays as.

Speaker 8 (01:34:58):
Well since, then at, practice he's been at left tackle
and it's Been Cody ford with the backups that. Guard
it's Been Jacob bayer with the backups that guard opposite
Of Brian. Parker SO i think they're trying to see
who has the versatility worthy of keeping because as of right,
NOW i think you're throwing In Brian parker if someone
goes down on the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Inside Eric hall's got to play in a preseason. Game
but he's had an awesome. Offseason he's looked apart during training.
Camp he has every tool in the box that you
can ask a tight end to. Have we Saw jack.
Andrees just give me a breakdown at the tight end.
Room is this the, deepest potentially they've had at that
position in.

Speaker 8 (01:35:33):
YEARS i think for sure it. Is and it starts
with very segmented positions within the tight end. Position because
you Have, mikeoseki who's basically a wide. Receiver he almost
never lines up in a true tight end. Set he
never is really. BLOCKING i think he was out wider
in the slot for ninety one percent of his snaps last.
Year he doesn't play any special teams, either which is

(01:35:54):
huge for tight. Ends everyone behind, him, Though Drew sample
is your big blocker that is now.

Speaker 9 (01:36:00):
Receiver we know about these.

Speaker 8 (01:36:01):
Guys it seems Like Cam grandy is the straight up
backup Or Drew sample as a wide tight. End he's
also six' five. Two fifty he's got size on, him
right he. Can block he also did a little Bit
Of eric all stuff last week with the Starters because
all didn't play In that. Lion's Game so all is
your move. Tight end you're h back the guy you're
going to put in motion and block the unblocked the
end on the, other side or chip and release and

(01:36:23):
maybe run after, the catch a lot of what they
Did With noah fan. LAST year i think they're really
Excited About eric all and getting him back into, this
offense going more, twelve personnel which is when running back
two tight. End sets but, From There jack dries is
more Like an eric allstyle.

Speaker 9 (01:36:38):
Tight end he's not So Much.

Speaker 8 (01:36:39):
Mike Aaseki he's he's Not Really drew sample doesn't have
that type of size, and STRENGTH and i think that's
how they used him in, this game but they also
gave him some straight up blocking on the line of,
scrimmage plays which was nice. TO see i think the
wild card Here Is, tanner hudson who has traditionally been
a slot, receiver type more Of, a montkaseki but he's
doing a little bit more in camp and in preseason

(01:37:02):
he is blocking a little. Bit MORE and I saw
i'm watching the broadcast walking, with HIM and i went
and watched. The film he's on every special, team's Play and,
i'm like he's trying to make. This roster he's trying
to make it so he is so invaluable you can't
cut him even on a deep room because he's also
the backup like four string quarterback and, emergency quarterback short

(01:37:22):
yardage tight end that comes in, for sneaks long snapper
if someone.

Speaker 9 (01:37:26):
Goes down he, Does EVERYTHING so i think he's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Going to make.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
This Roster Joe goodbary Bengals On the Brain. Dot com
give me the appropriate way to talk about or react
to what we Saw From orlando Brown on thursday and
what we've seen, from him because the, you know the
the video snippets that are out there are not, Exactly
flattering so how do we break?

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Him down what's the right way to?

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
Do It so i'm more critical of the young Players
when i'm. WATCHING preseason i want to see they're the,
hungry ones they're the. ONES excited i was just listen
as someone posted a Clip From, micah hyde who Is
a Packers and, bill safety and he was talking about he's.
Retired now he's talking about his preseason and how he
Approached it when he was. A rookie he approached that
first game like he was playing in The super bowl

(01:38:09):
as a fifth, round. Pick right it met everything. For
him he was ready for that, first game and by,
year three, four five he just wants to get in and.
Get out they really are, the veterans. He said everyone
was like this AROUND. The nfl they're really they. Don't
care they don't want to play. In preseason they're just
trying to survive and get out. Of THERE so i
tend to be less critical of. Those guys on, ONE
hand i also need you to Protect Protect joe burrow

(01:38:31):
with everything you've got because he is the franchise and
if he gets hurt in a, preseason game this city
is going to. Burn down, so like let's not have.
That happen let's not play, With that orlando and have
a little bit more effort on. Those PLAYS but i do,
kind of, YOU know i understand why these guys don't
want to be out there for the.

Speaker 9 (01:38:48):
Meaningless games are they okay ish?

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (01:38:52):
AT linebacker i wonder if they are actually because it
was such a. BIG conversation, i mean all your, last
year we've put the focus in microscope on those guys
and they were pretty bad for largely the, Entire season
so of course we talked about it all. Off season we,
always said, you know there's a chance these guys take
a step in. YEAR two i think the, biggest thing
because it's hard to tell yet if they how big
of a step. They've taken of course they probably did in,

(01:39:14):
there TOO but i think the biggest thing is that
they're keeping them free and clean way, more often and
they're doing this with their five man fronts and their three,
four defense and just how much they've invested at, defensive
Tackle From dexter Lawrence To, jonathan Allen Even. Landon Robinson
chris jenkins may have taken, a step BUT. Keeping tj
slaton not just straight up, cutting him getting. Bj hillback
that's a lot of beef. Up front those are three

(01:39:37):
of the top six double team defensive tackles over the last.

Speaker 9 (01:39:40):
Five years that's going to keep your.

Speaker 8 (01:39:42):
Linebackers free and everyone talks, about it but when you
actually see it and you see it in, the games, you,
go yeah, of course get they look like they're, playing
faster they're more accurate in, the reads they can see what's.
Going on they're not trying to fend off offensive linemen
climbing to the second level to. Block them they're able
to free free flow to the play and get, there
quicker faster with. More aggression so even if they're that

(01:40:05):
not that, much better their negative plays should be fewer and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Far between understanding that the rest of camp and the
preseason could impact, this answer and, understanding that like, you
know you got to pay attention to who's made available on.
Cutdown day if you could add one player to, one
group where in this team would.

Speaker 8 (01:40:24):
THAT be i am wondering about swing tackle because if
It's Not, cody ford if you're moving him to guard
after one practice and it sounds like there's a lot
of pressure. On Him, Jeff hopson Bengals dot COM's had
a bunch of articles kind of insinuating that there is
Pressure On. Cody ford the team wanted them to, drop
weight they want them to be better at. Offensive tackle
And Then jalen rivers.

Speaker 9 (01:40:42):
Is now going to go out to.

Speaker 8 (01:40:43):
Left tackle it looks like based on practices leading up
to this, game here so let's see that he was
so bad last year they had to move him. Into
guard this is a guy that's six five and his
thirty five, inch arms he should be. Playing tackle so
if it's neither of, those guys if you end up
coming away from preseason like It's, not ford It's, not
river do you really expect these undrafted guys to be
that Or The andrew cookers of. The, world no if someone,

(01:41:05):
goes down Or If orlanda brown has, a bad, Bad
year i'm talking not just what we saw last year
at Moments where i'm talking.

Speaker 9 (01:41:12):
REAL bad i don't know if they have.

Speaker 8 (01:41:13):
ANOTHER option i don't know if there's anything on this
ROSTER that i would feel comfortable. TURNING to i feel
really good about their, guard depth an interior offensive. Line
up we Didn't Mention connor louie's going to be the.
FUTURE center i just don't really love tackle if there's
someone that's cut or a veteran out there or something
still there on the. Last day kind of Similar To
dalton riisner getting signed what four days before the season started.

Speaker 9 (01:41:33):
LAST year i would like the idea of kicking the
tires on a Swing Tech.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
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Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Fifteen Thirty tony pike joins us every hour with the
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Speaker 11 (01:42:19):
Big, week yeah, you know Not, only thursday the, joint
practice which bar none you, take practices you take. Preseason
games it will be the most significant day of training
camp and the most significant day of work this team
will have before their opener Against The Tampa. Bay Buccaneers
that's thursday tomorrow is expected to be an intense physical practice,

(01:42:40):
as well so you kind of circle this week as the.
WORK week i don't expect a lot of the guys
to Play on saturday because so much of their work
is going to get Done on thursday Against The, bears
ones and then you're in preseason game number three on
the road where not a lot of guys are going.
To play so this is the big week of work
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(01:43:00):
going to start to maybe see.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Some separation how Close Is dante myers to clinching the
spot on.

Speaker 12 (01:43:05):
THIS team i think he's.

Speaker 11 (01:43:07):
REALLY close i think if the decision were to be,
MADE today i think there's a Spot Between, Charlie Jones,
kendrick Pryor And. MITCH tinsley i think that would come
down to the. LAST spot I Think dante myers as
of today would be on. THE roster i think he
gives you more of an upside than what the.

Speaker 12 (01:43:24):
Others do but that's the.

Speaker 11 (01:43:26):
Thing about training camp and the next couple, of days
you're going to have an opportunity to make your case
if you're one of those, other guys and If You're,
dante myers you also have the case that you could
lose if you take a couple. Steps back so if
it were, DONE today i think. He DOES but i
think there's a lot, of time and there's going to
be a lot of install and a lot of film

(01:43:46):
work and things to work on between now and then
before they make.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
The, decision tony thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Very much tony is back with me tomorrow at ten
am FOR The ae Door And window Tony And Mode training.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
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Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
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Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
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