December 2, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,
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all day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, indeed it is Hi, Hello and welcome in our
number two of Tony Pike Sincy three sixty. No tone today,
the big Fella on the Big One later this evening
six to nine in for Lance McAllister. So it's just
you and me until three. Will turn it over to
Mo then. But right now, our typical Tuesday guest, our
guy Joe Daniman, joins me to talk a little bit
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of everything, because there's a lot to talk about. First, Joe,
how was your Thanksgiving? Did you go on the run
in the morning? Did you get all the you know,
the calories burnt? How'd it go?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It went great, Austin, and I have to thank you
for the inspiration to go through with it, because I
trained for several months for the ten A Thanksgiving Day
ten k right there at TQL Skadium, running through downtown.
And then I saw the forecasts a week of and
I saw temperatures in the twenty gusty winds, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Said, is it worth it?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Is it really worth it? I can run a ten
day by myself and do my own time trot. But
I said, you know what, Austin challenged me. He said,
you can't go through life scared. Yeah, it's like Joe
Burrow said. And I went out there and quite honestly,
the weather was fine. It was cold, but you know,
when you run, you wore them up pretty quickly. The
win wasn't a problem and I met my goal, so
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I was really excited.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, it was a great thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, congratulations to you for that. Most Bengals fans would
say it was a great thanksgiving for the way that
Joe Burrow performed and getting a win in Baltimore. When
you think of that game, what stood out to you
the most? Because I know you weren't obviously in Baltimore,
a little bit of a different view for you. What
stood out about that game in Baltimore?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What stood out to me is twofold.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
First being that Zach Taylor had no problem letting.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Joe Burrow be himself.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And that's throwing thirty two passes in the first half.
That's letting him quarterback sneak.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And I talked to Zach about this yesterday. I said,
did you have.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Any apprehension at all of Joe doing something like that
of pushing off on the toe when there's a quarterback sneak?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And he shook his head and said, no.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We knew he was ready and Joe was his normal self,
So there were no training wheels right at the start.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
In fact, Zach said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
They wanted to get him on the move early, to
get him back in the.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Field of playing like himself and being.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Comfortable running outside of the pocket and throwing on the move.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So that was one.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
The second was it felt like it elevated the entire team.
And I think if you look back at the end
of the season of what's going to be one of
the great moments of the Bengals season and if this
team does go on a run and does something special
here in the month of December, what you saw around
NBC Thanksgiving table after the game.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Was really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You don't see that often in the NFL. If you
watch a lot of NBA, it's a new thing. When
one player is being interviewed, the entire team will get
around him. Oklahoma City made it really popular when they
went on the run to win the NBA championship last year.
But to see what felt like twenty or thirty different
players around that table enjoying themselves, having fun, feeling empowered
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and elevated by their quarterback, that to me was the
image of what Joe Burrow is, what he brings, Because
when we all had this debate should Joe Burrow come
back and what feels like a lost season, a team
that has eight losses and it's not even December, why
risk it? Why come back so quickly? It felt like from.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The outside, well, you just saw what it does for
a team.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, he doesn't play defense, but he weaponizes confidence, and
he elevates teams and he empowers teammates, and it just
felt like we all saw that. The way it played
out in the game and the way it played out
in the post game with the team rallying around their quarterback,
I thought it was a really cool moment and what
I think might be the image of the season for
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the Bengals at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I think too, you saw while he's standing there
talking to Melissa Stark. You saw it in the post
game video of Zach Taylor giving him a game ball,
You saw it in the press conference there was a
motion from Joe Burrow which we don't always see that,
and I think that maybe speaks to the volume of
that moment, not just for the team, but for him
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personally as well.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, and I talked to DJ Turner about that yesterday.
I said, did you guys.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Realize that Joe was kind of pouring his heart out
where you guys are grabbing turkey legs and talking about crabs?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And they said, yeah, we got it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And that was cool for Joe. But what DJ said
to me is when a guy worked as hard as
Joe did, I put in as much work as Joe did,
and when he has the status of what Joe has,
he says, how can you not give your all for
a teammate like that? And again that goes back to
my original point of what Joe and his presence does,
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And I think that's the word is. Burrough's presence is
such a difference maker for this organization on so many
different levels, but especially on the micro level of where
it is inside that locker room and what it does
for the team. For DJ to say, how could you
not give your all for a teammate like that? I
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think speaks to the power of what Joe did. I
thought it was cool that Joe was willing to share
how emotional it was for him. And I thought it
was really neat too, to see all the players kind
of acknowledge that, even though they were too busy being
turkeys around the turkey.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Trey Hendrickson once
again pretty quickly ruled out by Zach Taylor yesterday, Is
there any information about you know what this is? And
and am I crazy for feeling like we're missing something here?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, that's that's the problem that that we're all having
with what's going on with Trey Hendrickson. And there's just
not a lot of information, almost to the point where
do we even know exactly what the injury.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Is, right because we've heard it be.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Multiple things, and we don't see Trey much inside Bengals
open locker room. And I think yesterday what you saw
from Zach Taylor was the body language speaking for him
and and understanding that there's a lot more going onto
this than he's going to let on it, and and
that's that's just prerogative. I just feel like it feels
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vindictive from the outside that that someone is playing a
game here, whether it's Trey Henderson trying to angle himself
out of favor in the organization so he doesn't get tagged,
or he is injured and the Bengals just for some
reason are not putting him on IR, which is confusing
in itself. It's a bad look for everybody. And the
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problem is without a lot of information, all we can
do is guess and speculate, and that's not good for
the team, that that's not good for Trey, and it
just kind of feels right now it's vindictive, and I
don't know which side is being vindictive and at the
end of the day, and it ends up being a
really bad look for everybody. So where this ends up.
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I mean, you asked me several weeks ago, do you
think Trey Henderson is going to play another snap for
the Bengals? And that was a few weeks ago. We
said we didn't know. And this is only getting deeper
and darker as it goes on, and there just isn't
a lot of information that either side is willing to share.
So when there isn't that sharing of information, people start
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to speculate. And when people start to speculate, it becomes
a bad look for everybody involved in that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But the defensive unit that has been on the field
while Trey has been out at least over the three
last three weeks, has gotten better. What do you think
has been the biggest reason for their turnaround?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So this was my.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Charge yesterday was to go inside the locker room in
a fine guests for our live angle.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Show on Wednesday night, which we'll get into later.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then two to ask many different players on the
defense to walk me through it like I'm a third
grader on why the defense right now seems to be
playing better because they went from historically bad to somewhat
functional against Pittsburgh, too very functional against New England to
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playing winning football against Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry. Now
the caveat is Lamar Jackson looks like the moond Stars
stole a talent on Space Jam who does not look
like himself. I don't know what that performance was on
Thanksgiving night. And yes, the Bengals did get some breaks
with Isaiah likely fumbling at the one yard line and
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the OPI call on Dave Flowers that can be debatable.
So there were moments that the Ravens probably should have
capitalized on and even despite playing poorly on offense, probably
still should have scored a lot more points.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Than they did.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But the question I took to so many players on defense,
and I talked to Barrett Carter and Geno Stone and
DJ Turner and Demetrius Knight, everybody has a different answer
on why the defense is playing better. Dach Taylor says,
it's twelve weeks of continuity. There's confidence when guys gel together.
Barret Carter says, we're working our butts off and being
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intentional with everything we do. Geno Stone says it's intention
to detail on the run game. DJ Turner says it's
a group that just stayed together and started to figure out.
But if you look more at what's on the field
and less what the guys are saying, you're seeing right
now is a willingness of a defensive coordinator and a
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defense to disguise and simulate pressures and feel comfortable in
doing so.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
If you go back and listen to Al Golden talk.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Throughout the year, you kept hearing him use this turn up,
trying to simplify it so guys could play faster. Well,
now that these rookies and these young players in this
unit as a whole, has had twelve weeks to play together.
You're seeing Al Golden be more willing to put in
more complicated looks too offenses. And if you go back
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to the play where Lamar Jackson was sacked inside the
five yard line by Joseph O'sai and Cedric Johnson recovered
on the three yard line. If you go back and
look at that play, you're going to see seven guys
on the line of scrimmage right before the ball is snapped,
and then right before the ball is snapped, boom, Geno
Stone drops back, Boom. Barrett Carter drops back and takes
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away Lamar Jackson's first so he has to hold the
ball just a little bit longer, and that gives time
for Joseph Osai and Biles Murphy to create some kind
of havoc on the right side of his offensive line,
and boom the play is made.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So to me, it's that it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Young group that took a long time to feel comfortable
to start to reach deeper into Al Golden's playbook. You're
seeing more willingness to disguise, more willingness somewhat to blitz,
but overall, a willingness to be just a little bit
more complicated here and give quarterbacks an offenses a harder look.
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And it's paying off so far the last couple of weeks.
As the Bengals get deeper in the season, we.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Want to switch gears quickly and talk to you about
UC for a moment. Over the weekend, Tony Pike described
the loss to Eastern Michigan as the worst Bearcats basketball
loss of his lifetime. Obviously, the football team got trounced
at TCU as well, Well, what do you make of
the state of both you see football and basketball right now?
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And and and what's the way out? Is there a
way out?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Huh? Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you look at what you see football did in
the first half of the season. And the hardest thing
to do, especially when you're you see football and you
think about the hierarchy of Cincinnati sports, is to make
yourself relevant in a town that the Bengals exist, the
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Reds exist, And we can go down the line as
c Cincinnati was playing deep into the MLS playoffs, and
they made themselves relevant in the first half of the season,
but they continue to fall apart and self destruct in
Novembers and it is that warranted for a change of leadership.
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I don't know, because I thought about halfway through the
season and need and further halfway into the season is
that Scott Saderfield had done enough to calm the waters
to deactivate the hot seat in Clifton.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And then November.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Happens, and you see how this team fades down the
stretch in another November, And how can that not be
a discussion going forward? Because that's what happens in college
football is changes happen, and we're seeing it all over
college football right now, and if you're not in this
first wave, then you might be too late. And it's
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kind of feels right now that you see is going
to stick with where they are.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And then that leads to.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The discussion of basketball and where they are with basketball,
and it's interesting depending on who you follow and the
narrative that surround that team is there are people And
you know, I laughed a little bit with Trags about
this yesterday at the stadium because Drags put out a
tweet after the Eastern Michigan game that Wes Miller will
be coaching for his job in the Crosstown shootout, And
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I know he's being a bit facetious, in a bit exaggeratory,
if that's a word, with what he's tweeting on that
he's not coaching for his job in the Crosstown shootout.
But it's another data point, another bullet point to what
his resume will be at the end of the season
for a guy that needs to make the NC Double
A tournament. Because yeah, he can go out and lose
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the shootout on Friday night, but he goes ahead and
Ryan Dave's this thing, loses to his rival and then
puts together a great end of the year and makes
the NC Double A tournament. It kind of feels like
that Stin is forgotten somewhat.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So what west Miller has. The pressure's on west.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Miller, There's no doubt there is pressure on west Miller
starting this Friday night in the Crosstown shootout. But it's
bigger than that game. It's bigger than beating Xavier. It's
what he does and conference play, it's what he does
in March to where we're going to judge this because
it's time and it's time for this pro to be
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back in the NCAA tournament. So while I don't think
he's coaching for his job on Friday night in the
Crosstown shootout. It certainly would be another data point for
a coach that has to prove he is the right
person for the job in Clifton.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Not the only thing going on Friday night. We've got
the state finals coming up and a couple of Cincinnati
teams in action. I'm sure you guys will be covering it.
What do you got coming up when it comes to
the state football championship?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So I'm going to test your knowledge here.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Okay, it's not good, but you can test it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, No, I'm going to test your Cincinnati knowledge. If
I said, Austin, what does Cincinnati do really really well?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
We would both agree that we do ice cream great? Right?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What else does Cincinnati do well? We do chili well.
We take a lot of pride in our chili in Cincinnati,
and we believe we do high school football really really well. Yes,
it's been four years since a Cincinnati area team has
won a state championship in football in Ohio. I think
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that would shock people to find that out. It's been
in twenty twenty one. It's been from twenty twenty A
Division One team has won an Ohio state state championship.
And now we have Anderson in Division two, we have
Saint X in Division one playing on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
It is time for one or both of.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
These teams to end Cincinnati's drought at the state championship. Yes,
we will be there Thursday, we will be there Friday.
Division two, Division one Anderson's a rematch of a game
they lost last year in the snow against Avon, same teams,
right back at it, same spot. Can Anderson finish it
this year? Sane X plays Owen Tangy Orange, who shut
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out Saint D's twenty eight nothing in the state semi finals.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
They get them in the Division one state final on
Friday night.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And stay next to be the team to end the drought.
Or Kennedy Anderson, one of these two teams, if not both,
Austin have to do it for the city of Cincinnati
to end this drought because we believe so much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
In the high school football we play in this city.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You mentioned a show coming up tomorrow night. You were
recruiting Bengals to come on the show. What do you
got coming up?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
As you can imagine, when a team goes on a
losing Street and they get to three and eight, it
becomes very difficult to get guys to want to do
public appearances. We get that right.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Imagine it was you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's tough to go out there in front of the
public when you're not playing well. So we had a
lot of guys who said, come ask me when we win.
So when the Bengals one on Thursday night, we got
out a cliffboard and we said we're going across this
room and we are locking.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Guys in the kiddings.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But we have Ted Karris and Dalton Reisner tomorrow night
live at Newport on the Levee. Hey Man, look up
those PFF grades on the Bengals offensive line and what
he did Thursday night. We can talk about a defense,
we can talk about Joe Burrow, we can talk about
this massive game coming up Sunday in Buffalo. But the
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offensive line did their job on Thursday night. They will
be rewarded six o'clock in front of Bengals fans. Live
free event for everybody listening to this to get to
Newport on the Levee tomorrow night at six.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Ted Carris's performance this year is one of the things
that I will have to eat some crow about by
the end of the season, and I'm happy to do
so because of the way that he has performed. Unfortunately,
I don't have enough time to ask you about Lane
Kiffin and the college football world being turned on its head,
but maybe we'll get to that next week. Joe, thanks
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so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Anytime, Austin, and keep playing Bone Thugs in Harmony as
your bumper music. I listened the first of the month
no less than fifteen times yesterday because oh my.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
God, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's awesome. Thank you, You're very welcome, and thank you.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
And yeat. That's Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen. He's the best.
All right, we'll take a break. Your talkbacks are coming
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Speaker 2 (19:48):
Welcome back in since he three sixty, Tony Pikes, since
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Speaker 6 (20:08):
Hello, this is longtime talkbacker and first time listener Ronald.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Ron and Will I had some time this morning on
the Google and found a couple of interesting facts to
pass along. Did you know that our tenth president, John
Tyler had a grandson who just died earlier this year. Oh,
and Willie Mays is the only player to hit at
least one home run in innings one through sixteen during
his career.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I actually knew.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, now we've got to go find that blasted duck
of mine.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I actually knew those fun facts. I remember reading about
the John Tyler grandson not that long ago. And Willie Mays, Yes, legend.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Hi, this is the Lord. I just took some hopium
on the Bengals winning out the rest of their games
this year. I'm also giving out free hopium to talk
that nation, So please give me a call.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Glad to hear that the Lord has still got time
after consulting deeply with Lane Keiffin.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
For you, he's here.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
An had asked their voters to rank the sixty eight
Power four teams to do their broadcast grades. I saw
this and Dan Horde and they decided to give the
voters the chance, and they get the voters Cincinnati sixth
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place out of sixty eight among all broadcasters.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Way to go.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, I saw this. This is pretty cool. It's awful announcing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And they do their college football broadcasts duos and they
rank them and they have people vote and do all
the whole nine yards, and as he mentions, out of
sixty eight of those broadcasts, Cincinnati, Dan Hord and Tony
Pike ranked number six. And I would make the argument
that that's probably a little too low. They should be
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a little bit higher. But yeah, that was really cool,
especially for two guys that have you know, really been
in the booth together only a handful of times. Not
a surprise though, because if anybody who listens to them knows,
they're spectacular.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah, repping the city out here in sunny hot Zona.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
What up, Tonny?
Speaker 11 (22:21):
What up?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Body?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
No?
Speaker 11 (22:22):
I'm not a happy UC fan. What I watched last
night was not good. This team looks flat. I looked
at Zaber last night. They looked a little bit better
than I thought.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
Yo, Wes, if you don't beat Zaber, we got major problems.
Speaker 11 (22:33):
We don't get in this tournament. Major problems, Yo, Coach
sat Man. That's see this dumb fire hot yo Man.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Two straight seasons we lived in the season with losing streaks.
We get that crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Get
them about it here. I'm done with Coach sat game.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
The crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Listen.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
I'm just a frustrated Bearcats fan.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
I watched both sides of the ball, football and basketball,
and when it comes to big games, our coaches.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Get out coached.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
Our players look like they've never seen the big stage before.
I mean, it's embarrassing as a Bearcats fan, man, I mean,
you can't win big games on either side of the ball.
Just look flat out embarrassing. You want to call yourself
a power for school, look like a mid major school.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Are we still in the AAC or something?
Speaker 11 (23:17):
You tell me, get somebody in here who can coach
this program and get it in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
M M.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think a lot of Bearcat fans would agree with Ronnie.
Ron out there in sunny hot Zona.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Audi elm are in a big chair on they all
pike Everything Nation Station.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
If the Reds and Bengals can excel at one thing,
it's always given us just a little bit of hope.
Speaker 13 (23:40):
And when we think things are done now, they got
to go get it done.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
It's down on business in Buffalo. Go up there and
dine on them Buffalo wings. All right? Man, isn't it?
Isn't that a good thing? Though? Wouldn't you rather now?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I listen, I know we've all had our hearts broken
many many times by the Bengals, by the Reds, Cincinnati
sports in general. But wouldn't you rather have some hope
than no hope at all? Is some hope better than
none at all? I would think?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
So?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Hey, Austin, it's Greg.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 14 (24:15):
I just think satur Day's game being inside in Indianapolis. Yeah,
I'll take all the weather elements out of it. I
just think too, it's gonna be great, a great day
for our buck.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Guys.
Speaker 14 (24:30):
How do you feel about that? And Austin, as usual,
you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, Greg, thank you so much. Yeah, I don't know
what to make of this game. I think Kurt Signetti
is a really good coach. I think he's a really
sharp offensive mind. I think that Fernando Mendoza is just
perfectly operating that offense the way that they want it
to and they've got a good opportunistic defense. So I
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wonder if this game from both sides to an extent,
will be treated like a preseason game because they're likely
both going to get the first round by and there's
a chance that they see each other again in the playoffs.
I just wonder how much both coaches are willing to
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empty the clip, especially Signetti, and I don't know that
if that's the way they're thinking at all.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But you know, I.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Matt Patricia's defense really truly has not been tested. When
they went down six nothing to Michigan last week, that
was their biggest deficit of the entire season in Ohio States,
credit they came back. Now, six points is basically nothing.
It's one possession. It's basically less than one possession. So
I don't know what to expect of this game. I've
told my friends and my Buckeye fans, and I've said
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it on here. The only team that I really worry
about is Indiana just because of their explosiveness, their consistency.
They haven't faltered, they haven't messed up. They're just a
good team and a good offensive mind. And I just
wonder when the test is going to come for Matt Patricia.
Everybody's talking about him like he's the greatest coach in
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the history of football, and I get it, that defense
is unbelievable. I just wonder, you know, stylistically, what this
game looks like between those two sides, because yes, it matters,
but ultimately, how much does it matter? We talked in
the past that having the number one seed isn't always
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the best thing in the college football playoffs, And if
both teams are going to get a bye, and if
they basically flip flop positions, you know, I don't know.
I really don't know what to expect. But how could
I not have faith in what the Buckeyes have done?
Speaker 15 (26:47):
Hey, g Audie, can you tell me why is Jermaine
Burton still on the Bengals squad? Why haven't they caught
him in Henderson? There's no way that they tag or
resign them.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
He's just out right.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
Unless when it comes to college foot there are just
too many damn bowl games outside of the college football playoffs.
There should be a few for the teams that were
on the outside looking in didn't make it because of strength,
to schedule or whatever. I don't care, and I don't
know anyone that cares about Buffa's base shot Bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
YEP, I agree with you one thousand percent. Way too
many bowl games oversaturated. Once again, that's a television problem
as far as I understand it. As Ronnie Ron called it,
the crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. There's a lot
of those. There's about fifty of those every year. It
seems like Jermaine Burton, no idea why he's still here.
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He's taking up a roster spot. I was talking about
this over the weekend. Isaiah Williams has had an excellent
season with the New York Jets as a kick and
punk returner and a little bit as a wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
How is he like?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It still blows my mind that the Bengals chose Jermaine
Burton over him. It's just it's ridiculous. I don't know
why he's still on the team.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
What's off Boston, jovin Baltimore? What up are Super excited
about Kentucky's high or will Stein.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Great move for the program.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
I think he's gonna do great things.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I'm over Trey Hendrickson. He's done a lot of great
things for the Bengals. But I'm ready for us to
move on. Kentucky against North Carolina tonight, big game, hopefully
you take, can probably win, win a big one.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's right, big one between Kentucky and North Carolina, which
just the battle of the blue Bloods. Is that on
campus anywhere? Or is that one of those games that's
being played, you know, in some NBA arena in New York. No,
it's that rough, Okay, wonderful. Can't wait for that nine
to thirty pm tip off right now. Kentucky favored by
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six and a half in that game. That's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 16 (28:45):
Hey there, Tony the Bengal Tiger Tuesday in Austin. Don't
got much for you guys today, but do God, I'm
stop bench and cut all right of things you don't
care about your co workers talking on out on the
fantasy teams. Two, the parlais that missed by one leg,
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and three the food that they're going to eat over
the holidays season goodbye.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I would start their parlays, I would bench their fantasy teams.
I would cut the food that they're going to eat
over the holiday season. And that's something I experienced almost
every day.
Speaker 17 (29:29):
This is David reminding everybody it's Crosstown shootout week and
it's been eight seven, oh, no, fifty four days?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Bearcats? Oh my gosh, wow, So what was it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Almost three thousand days since Ohio State had beaten Michigan
and we're almost nine thousands since you see as one
at sentas.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So maybe we can.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Join forces for good here, if you're a Buckeye and
a Bearcat fan, and we can break streaks together.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Hey, Audie, back with the double doung with you. There's
a lot of things in college football. It's quite a mess.
And maybe I'm.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
Alone this, but I think a commissioner will go a
long way to square some things away.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I agree with you one hundred percent, Kevin, But how
do we get that guy? How do we get that
man or that woman? And how are we going to
get the conferences to agree on that person and to
agree to answer to that person. I don't know if
we will.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Hi Energy, how we are right?
Speaker 17 (30:32):
I think it's almost time to get al Golan back
his D. Almost it ain't there yet. Show me something
against Buffalo. Show up in Buffalo, missed that Golan and
get that D back in your name.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm gonna write this down right now because you have
to talk to Moeggar about this stuff. He's the guy
who's in charge of the way names are spelled. Ouk Tobin,
Al Golan. Neither one have the D because the Bengals
defense they played pretty good. I'm gonna have to ask
Mo today during quick hits if we can put the
D back in Al Golden's name.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Audi, what's going on? It's maso.
Speaker 13 (31:15):
So my opinion on college football and college athletics in
general is that it's completely broken. Yes, everybody's selfish and
looking out for their own interests, and I get players
and coaches going and making money and getting the bag.
I get that, But how can we not come to
an agreement that it should happen after the season is over.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Why is that so hard to implement? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I agree, and that's what I want to talk about
with the Texas Tech head coach, and he kind of explains,
like the academic side of it and the portal and
all this other stuff like there is just no structure
and that everyone is so out for themselves that it
doesn't really matter how you affect other people so long
as you take care of your program or however, like
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with the Lane Kiffen things, specifically, if anybody who is
has a job, if you are doing a job really well,
and a similar company offers you a lot more money
to do basically the same thing, and they give you
a lot more resources to do it at a higher level,
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most people are going to jump to that company if
the others aren't going to be able to offer you
those resources. I don't blame Lane Kiffin for doing that.
I will never blame somebody for leaving to get more money.
But the problem is that the system has allowed for
there to be a path of destruction, a wake of
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destruction behind him on the way out the door. And
that's an issue. Sorry for the double dip y fired
up today, But my.
Speaker 13 (32:53):
Next point was going to be I think the SEC
in Big ten they should just break off and do
their own thing, kind of have like an NFL model
and be kind of like a minor league to the NFL.
And then the rest of the League's acc Big twelve,
whatever the PAC twelve or whatever the hell that is. Yeah,
then they would just kind of be like your lower
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tier fcs, like what FCS is now.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I think that's like actually kind of a possibility. I
wouldn't be surprised if eventually something like that happens. I
do wonder though, if the SEC and Big ten can
even get along. Maybe if they're seeing enough green they will.
Speaker 18 (33:31):
Hey, guys, it's Brad in the BA boy, but any
eight just had a curiosity. What's your favorite restaurant? Mine is,
of course, Blue Ass Chili. What's your favorite pizza? I'm
a trophy guy over there in even Dale Evan loves
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it too, I hear.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Anyway, let me know, Yeah, my favorite restaurant and my
favorite pizza are any company that is willing to pay
me to endorse them and say that they are my favorite.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
That's just you know, my personal favorite.
Speaker 19 (34:08):
Awesome, it's good. What I am sick and tired of
the Jermaine Burton saga. I'm over it. Let's get rid
of this guy, maybe right out the rest of the season,
but get what you can for him after that. We
haven't seen enough from him in the league to warrant
him taking up a roster spot. I know he was
a higher draft pick, but his time is done. And
how about that field goal attempt last night?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That was cuckoo.
Speaker 19 (34:30):
Last time I've seen a field goal go haywire like
that was the grammatica field goal where.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
He tours eas Yeah afterwards, just embarrassing. Yeah, that was wild.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I don't know that I would even call Jermaine Burton
a saga as much as it's just like a disappointment
that this guy and the team have gotten to this point.
He's not worth anything. You won't get anything for him.
Wide receiver, I think is on that list of things
they're gonna have to address in the offseason to begin
with number one, Just a guy that can win more
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consistency at that three spot, more consistently at that number
three spot where Yoshaboss has been has been and you
know the depth at that position, there's a lot of unknowns. Tensley, Jones, Burton,
Obviously they need to work.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
On that spot.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back when
we do football in the Natty.
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Welcome back in It is Football and the NATI here
in hour number two on ESPN fifteen thirty. I want
to put a bow on the college football conversation and
the direction that it's obviously going. And I talked earlier
about Texas Tech head coach Joey McGuire. He was asked
in his availability prior to the Big twelve Chamchampionship game
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about what needs to be done to the college football
calendar in the wake of Lane Kiffin and the coaching
carousel and all the stuff going on. This is two
minutes of Joey McGuire providing what he thinks are viable
solutions that make sense for college football. Take a listen
to the Red Raiders head coach.
Speaker 20 (36:22):
I want to know what my team is in January,
so I could create my team and what we did
this last year and the chemistry and everything, and so
you're just putting a band aid over the problem until
we address the calendar. So in my opinion, we all
should have played August twenty third, So instead of week
zero we play, that's week one. That would mean, with
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the buys and everything, the conference championship would have been
played over Thanksgiving. So you get that out of the way.
So now we know who's in the playoffs. So if
you were saying the first round was going to be
played Saturday and then and the quarterfinals seven days after that,
semifinals seven days after that, you actually could play the
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National Championship on January first, and then the portal would
open on January second, so the season would actually be over.
So until you do that, we're still gonna have this.
If we're gonna be like the NFL to everybody's saying that.
In the NFL, there's a tampering for coaches also, and
there's a penalty, and so, hey, if you're gonna leave
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your team that's in the playoffs, maybe your team that
you're going to is not eligible for the playoffs the
next year, Maybe that changes some of the things. Or hey,
you're gonna leave your team for the playoffs, nobody from
your past team or your team that you're coaching at
can go to the team that you're going to. You
know that they're not eligible. They ain't getting the transfer portal,
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but they've got to go somewhere else. They can't follow
you until there's some penalties in that we're gonna get
the same thing over and over. I do think the
biggest thing that we have to address, and TV's got
to get behind this because they've already got this mapped
out with the quarterfinals and all this stuff. We've got
to push the calendar up and we've got to get
football out of the second semester. We're not supposed to
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be playing college football on January nineteenth. That should be
over at the very worst of where it has been
in the past. I still think that's too late, and
the calendar can change that.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I love that perspective again from Joey McGuire, the Texas
Tech head coach.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I mean, that makes a ton of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
If school in the portal is what gets in the
way of this and causes so many different issues, well
then maybe it makes a lot of sense to just
move everything up and so that you get you know,
football out of that second semester, which seems to be
the biggest issue with guys you know, going different directions
in different schools and the portal and all this other stuff.
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Either way, even if there's not a commissioner or not
a governing body or whatever it might be. I feel
like most people in college sports, and especially in college football,
specifically in college football in this case, would be in
favor of something that gets everybody on the same page.
Would they not? And if so, what really are we
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Speaker 2 (40:04):
One of the other many reasons we need a governing body,
we need some sort of regulation, We need somebody, some
group of people managing college football is for stuff like
what happened at the Big House on Saturday when the
headsets for the Ohio State sideline. All power to the
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sideline really went out and took quite some time to
get booted back up. Take a listen to what Ohio
state head coach Ryan Day had to say about that.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, we lost communication there in the second half.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
But the good news was was that earlier that week,
I thought there may be an inkling that that may happen.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So we had a plan for it.
Speaker 12 (40:49):
We had a wristband plan and then we had we
would bring Julian over and I was, you know, just
getting us through it until we get the headsets back
back up and running, which took a little while to
get done. But yeah, just by chance, you know, we
we had a plan for it, and so we were
ready to go when it happened.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Inkling, Why did you have that? Inkling? Oh, we're just
ready for everything. You just got to be ready for anything.
Speaker 12 (41:12):
And you know, when you go into any big game,
you're always trying to put continuency plans in place for
anything that could possibly happen. And so yeah, we were
just that was in here on Friday, and I think
some of the guys in the staff were looking at
me sideways, like, why would you think that would happen?
I said, I just, I just, I don't know. We
just got to be ready and be ready for anything.
It's funny how your mind works.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
He finished that answer with a wink to the reporter. Now,
in the NFL, all this stuff is managed by the
National Football League, not necessarily the case always in college football.
There's just a lot going on in that sport that
I can't I struggle to keep track of. It's it's
truly unbelievable.
Speaker 21 (41:54):
UH.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
College football schedule. This weekend conference championships gets underway. The
American is going to be Friday night. That's at eight o'clock.
That's number twenty four to two Lane up against North Texas.
Then on Saturday, Big twelve Championship BYU in Texas Tech
is at noon. The MAC Championship also at noon. That's
Miami and Western Michigan from Ford Field in Detroit. Georgia
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and Alabama from Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta is at
four o'clock. Ohio State in Indiana from Lucas Oil Stadium
in Indianapolis at eight, and the ACC title game Duke
in Virginia also at eight from Bank of America Stadium
in Charlotte. So that puts a bow on the college
football conversation. Let's go back to the pro football conversation
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when we come back. Joe Goodberry, long time Bengals analyst
and host of Bengals on the Brain, friend of the
show and a great football mind. I have questions about
the Bengals defense. We'll talk to Joe next on ESPN
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, indeed it is Hi, Hello and welcome in our
number two of Tony Pike Sincy three sixty. No tone today,
the big Fella on the Big One later this evening
six to nine in for Lance McAllister. So it's just
you and me until three. Will turn it over to
Mo then. But right now, our typical Tuesday guest, our
guy Joe Daniman, joins me to talk a little bit
(00:38):
of everything, because there's a lot to talk about. First, Joe,
how was your Thanksgiving? Did you go on the run
in the morning? Did you get all the you know,
the calories burnt? How'd it go?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It went great, Austin, and I have to thank you
for the inspiration to go through with it, because I
trained for several months for the ten A Thanksgiving Day
ten k right there at TQL Skadium, running through downtown.
And then I saw the forecasts a week of and
I saw temperatures in the twenty gusty winds, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Said, is it worth it?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Is it really worth it? I can run a ten
day by myself and do my own time trot. But
I said, you know what, Austin challenged me. He said,
you can't go through life scared. Yeah, it's like Joe
Burrow said. And I went out there and quite honestly,
the weather was fine. It was cold, but you know,
when you run, you wore them up pretty quickly. The
win wasn't a problem and I met my goal, so
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I was really excited.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, it was a great thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, congratulations to you for that. Most Bengals fans would
say it was a great thanksgiving for the way that
Joe Burrow performed and getting a win in Baltimore. When
you think of that game, what stood out to you
the most? Because I know you weren't obviously in Baltimore,
a little bit of a different view for you. What
stood out about that game in Baltimore?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What stood out to me is twofold.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
First being that Zach Taylor had no problem letting.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Joe Burrow be himself.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And that's throwing thirty two passes in the first half.
That's letting him quarterback sneak.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And I talked to Zach about this yesterday. I said,
did you have.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Any apprehension at all of Joe doing something like that
of pushing off on the toe when there's a quarterback sneak?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And he shook his head and said, no.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We knew he was ready and Joe was his normal self,
So there were no training wheels right at the start.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
In fact, Zach said.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
They wanted to get him on the move early, to
get him back in the.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Field of playing like himself and being.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Comfortable running outside of the pocket and throwing on the move.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So that was one.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
The second was it felt like it elevated the entire team.
And I think if you look back at the end
of the season of what's going to be one of
the great moments of the Bengals season and if this
team does go on a run and does something special
here in the month of December, what you saw around
NBC Thanksgiving table after the game.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Was really cool.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You don't see that often in the NFL. If you
watch a lot of NBA, it's a new thing. When
one player is being interviewed, the entire team will get
around him. Oklahoma City made it really popular when they
went on the run to win the NBA championship last year.
But to see what felt like twenty or thirty different
players around that table enjoying themselves, having fun, feeling empowered
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and elevated by their quarterback, that to me was the
image of what Joe Burrow is, what he brings, Because
when we all had this debate should Joe Burrow come
back and what feels like a lost season, a team
that has eight losses and it's not even December, why
risk it? Why come back so quickly? It felt like from.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The outside, well, you just saw what it does for
a team.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, he doesn't play defense, but he weaponizes confidence, and
he elevates teams and he empowers teammates, and it just
felt like we all saw that. The way it played
out in the game and the way it played out
in the post game with the team rallying around their quarterback,
I thought it was a really cool moment and what
I think might be the image of the season for
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the Bengals at the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I think too, you saw while he's standing there
talking to Melissa Stark. You saw it in the post
game video of Zach Taylor giving him a game ball,
You saw it in the press conference there was a
motion from Joe Burrow which we don't always see that,
and I think that maybe speaks to the volume of
that moment, not just for the team, but for him
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personally as well.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, and I talked to DJ Turner about that yesterday.
I said, did you guys.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Realize that Joe was kind of pouring his heart out
where you guys are grabbing turkey legs and talking about crabs?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And they said, yeah, we got it.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And that was cool for Joe. But what DJ said
to me is when a guy worked as hard as
Joe did, I put in as much work as Joe did,
and when he has the status of what Joe has,
he says, how can you not give your all for
a teammate like that? And again that goes back to
my original point of what Joe and his presence does,
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And I think that's the word is. Burrough's presence is
such a difference maker for this organization on so many
different levels, but especially on the micro level of where
it is inside that locker room and what it does
for the team. For DJ to say, how could you
not give your all for a teammate like that? I
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think speaks to the power of what Joe did. I
thought it was cool that Joe was willing to share
how emotional it was for him. And I thought it
was really neat too, to see all the players kind
of acknowledge that, even though they were too busy being
turkeys around the turkey.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Trey Hendrickson once
again pretty quickly ruled out by Zach Taylor yesterday, Is
there any information about you know what this is? And
and am I crazy for feeling like we're missing something here?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, that's that's the problem that that we're all having
with what's going on with Trey Hendrickson. And there's just
not a lot of information, almost to the point where
do we even know exactly what the injury.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Is, right because we've heard it be.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Multiple things, and we don't see Trey much inside Bengals
open locker room. And I think yesterday what you saw
from Zach Taylor was the body language speaking for him
and and understanding that there's a lot more going onto
this than he's going to let on it, and and
that's that's just prerogative. I just feel like it feels
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vindictive from the outside that that someone is playing a
game here, whether it's Trey Henderson trying to angle himself
out of favor in the organization so he doesn't get tagged,
or he is injured and the Bengals just for some
reason are not putting him on IR, which is confusing
in itself. It's a bad look for everybody. And the
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problem is without a lot of information, all we can
do is guess and speculate, and that's not good for
the team, that that's not good for Trey, and it
just kind of feels right now it's vindictive, and I
don't know which side is being vindictive and at the
end of the day, and it ends up being a
really bad look for everybody. So where this ends up.
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I mean, you asked me several weeks ago, do you
think Trey Henderson is going to play another snap for
the Bengals? And that was a few weeks ago. We
said we didn't know. And this is only getting deeper
and darker as it goes on, and there just isn't
a lot of information that either side is willing to share.
So when there isn't that sharing of information, people start
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to speculate. And when people start to speculate, it becomes
a bad look for everybody involved in that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But the defensive unit that has been on the field
while Trey has been out at least over the three
last three weeks, has gotten better. What do you think
has been the biggest reason for their turnaround?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So this was my.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Charge yesterday was to go inside the locker room in
a fine guests for our live angle.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Show on Wednesday night, which we'll get into later.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then two to ask many different players on the
defense to walk me through it like I'm a third
grader on why the defense right now seems to be
playing better because they went from historically bad to somewhat
functional against Pittsburgh, too very functional against New England to
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playing winning football against Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry. Now
the caveat is Lamar Jackson looks like the moond Stars
stole a talent on Space Jam who does not look
like himself. I don't know what that performance was on
Thanksgiving night. And yes, the Bengals did get some breaks
with Isaiah likely fumbling at the one yard line and
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the OPI call on Dave Flowers that can be debatable.
So there were moments that the Ravens probably should have
capitalized on and even despite playing poorly on offense, probably
still should have scored a lot more points.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Than they did.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But the question I took to so many players on defense,
and I talked to Barrett Carter and Geno Stone and
DJ Turner and Demetrius Knight, everybody has a different answer
on why the defense is playing better. Dach Taylor says,
it's twelve weeks of continuity. There's confidence when guys gel together.
Barret Carter says, we're working our butts off and being
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intentional with everything we do. Geno Stone says it's intention
to detail on the run game. DJ Turner says it's
a group that just stayed together and started to figure out.
But if you look more at what's on the field
and less what the guys are saying, you're seeing right
now is a willingness of a defensive coordinator and a
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defense to disguise and simulate pressures and feel comfortable in
doing so.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
If you go back and listen to Al Golden talk.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Throughout the year, you kept hearing him use this turn up,
trying to simplify it so guys could play faster. Well,
now that these rookies and these young players in this
unit as a whole, has had twelve weeks to play together.
You're seeing Al Golden be more willing to put in
more complicated looks too offenses. And if you go back
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to the play where Lamar Jackson was sacked inside the
five yard line by Joseph O'sai and Cedric Johnson recovered
on the three yard line. If you go back and
look at that play, you're going to see seven guys
on the line of scrimmage right before the ball is snapped,
and then right before the ball is snapped, boom, Geno
Stone drops back, Boom. Barrett Carter drops back and takes
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away Lamar Jackson's first so he has to hold the
ball just a little bit longer, and that gives time
for Joseph Osai and Biles Murphy to create some kind
of havoc on the right side of his offensive line,
and boom the play is made.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So to me, it's that it's a.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Young group that took a long time to feel comfortable
to start to reach deeper into Al Golden's playbook. You're
seeing more willingness to disguise, more willingness somewhat to blitz,
but overall, a willingness to be just a little bit
more complicated here and give quarterbacks an offenses a harder look.
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And it's paying off so far the last couple of weeks.
As the Bengals get deeper in the season, we.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Want to switch gears quickly and talk to you about
UC for a moment. Over the weekend, Tony Pike described
the loss to Eastern Michigan as the worst Bearcats basketball
loss of his lifetime. Obviously, the football team got trounced
at TCU as well, Well, what do you make of
the state of both you see football and basketball right now?
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And and and what's the way out? Is there a
way out?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Huh? Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you look at what you see football did in
the first half of the season. And the hardest thing
to do, especially when you're you see football and you
think about the hierarchy of Cincinnati sports, is to make
yourself relevant in a town that the Bengals exist, the
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Reds exist, And we can go down the line as
c Cincinnati was playing deep into the MLS playoffs, and
they made themselves relevant in the first half of the season,
but they continue to fall apart and self destruct in
Novembers and it is that warranted for a change of leadership.
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I don't know, because I thought about halfway through the
season and need and further halfway into the season is
that Scott Saderfield had done enough to calm the waters
to deactivate the hot seat in Clifton.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And then November.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Happens, and you see how this team fades down the
stretch in another November, And how can that not be
a discussion going forward? Because that's what happens in college
football is changes happen, and we're seeing it all over
college football right now, and if you're not in this
first wave, then you might be too late. And it's
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kind of feels right now that you see is going
to stick with where they are.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And then that leads to.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The discussion of basketball and where they are with basketball,
and it's interesting depending on who you follow and the
narrative that surround that team is there are people And
you know, I laughed a little bit with Trags about
this yesterday at the stadium because Drags put out a
tweet after the Eastern Michigan game that Wes Miller will
be coaching for his job in the Crosstown shootout, And
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I know he's being a bit facetious, in a bit exaggeratory,
if that's a word, with what he's tweeting on that
he's not coaching for his job in the Crosstown shootout.
But it's another data point, another bullet point to what
his resume will be at the end of the season
for a guy that needs to make the NC Double
A tournament. Because yeah, he can go out and lose
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the shootout on Friday night, but he goes ahead and
Ryan Dave's this thing, loses to his rival and then
puts together a great end of the year and makes
the NC Double A tournament. It kind of feels like
that Stin is forgotten somewhat.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So what west Miller has. The pressure's on west.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Miller, There's no doubt there is pressure on west Miller
starting this Friday night in the Crosstown shootout. But it's
bigger than that game. It's bigger than beating Xavier. It's
what he does and conference play, it's what he does
in March to where we're going to judge this because
it's time and it's time for this pro to be
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back in the NCAA tournament. So while I don't think
he's coaching for his job on Friday night in the
Crosstown shootout. It certainly would be another data point for
a coach that has to prove he is the right
person for the job in Clifton.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Not the only thing going on Friday night. We've got
the state finals coming up and a couple of Cincinnati
teams in action. I'm sure you guys will be covering it.
What do you got coming up when it comes to
the state football championship?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So I'm going to test your knowledge here.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Okay, it's not good, but you can test it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, No, I'm going to test your Cincinnati knowledge. If
I said, Austin, what does Cincinnati do really really well?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
We would both agree that we do ice cream great? Right?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What else does Cincinnati do well? We do chili well.
We take a lot of pride in our chili in Cincinnati,
and we believe we do high school football really really well. Yes,
it's been four years since a Cincinnati area team has
won a state championship in football in Ohio. I think
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that would shock people to find that out. It's been
in twenty twenty one. It's been from twenty twenty A
Division One team has won an Ohio state state championship.
And now we have Anderson in Division two, we have
Saint X in Division one playing on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
It is time for one or both of.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
These teams to end Cincinnati's drought at the state championship. Yes,
we will be there Thursday, we will be there Friday.
Division two, Division one Anderson's a rematch of a game
they lost last year in the snow against Avon, same teams,
right back at it, same spot. Can Anderson finish it
this year? Sane X plays Owen Tangy Orange, who shut
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out Saint D's twenty eight nothing in the state semi finals.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
They get them in the Division one state final on
Friday night.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And stay next to be the team to end the drought.
Or Kennedy Anderson, one of these two teams, if not both,
Austin have to do it for the city of Cincinnati
to end this drought because we believe so much.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
In the high school football we play in this city.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You mentioned a show coming up tomorrow night. You were
recruiting Bengals to come on the show. What do you
got coming up?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
As you can imagine, when a team goes on a
losing Street and they get to three and eight, it
becomes very difficult to get guys to want to do
public appearances. We get that right.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Imagine it was you.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's tough to go out there in front of the
public when you're not playing well. So we had a
lot of guys who said, come ask me when we win.
So when the Bengals one on Thursday night, we got
out a cliffboard and we said we're going across this
room and we are locking.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Guys in the kiddings.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But we have Ted Karris and Dalton Reisner tomorrow night
live at Newport on the Levee. Hey Man, look up
those PFF grades on the Bengals offensive line and what
he did Thursday night. We can talk about a defense,
we can talk about Joe Burrow, we can talk about
this massive game coming up Sunday in Buffalo. But the
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offensive line did their job on Thursday night. They will
be rewarded six o'clock in front of Bengals fans. Live
free event for everybody listening to this to get to
Newport on the Levee tomorrow night at six.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Ted Carris's performance this year is one of the things
that I will have to eat some crow about by
the end of the season, and I'm happy to do
so because of the way that he has performed. Unfortunately,
I don't have enough time to ask you about Lane
Kiffin and the college football world being turned on its head,
but maybe we'll get to that next week. Joe, thanks
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so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Anytime, Austin, and keep playing Bone Thugs in Harmony as
your bumper music. I listened the first of the month
no less than fifteen times yesterday because oh my.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
God, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's awesome. Thank you, You're very welcome, and thank you.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
And yeat. That's Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen. He's the best.
All right, we'll take a break. Your talkbacks are coming
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Please try out to sabataj.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
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Speaker 6 (20:08):
Hello, this is longtime talkbacker and first time listener Ronald.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Ron and Will I had some time this morning on
the Google and found a couple of interesting facts to
pass along. Did you know that our tenth president, John
Tyler had a grandson who just died earlier this year. Oh,
and Willie Mays is the only player to hit at
least one home run in innings one through sixteen during
his career.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I actually knew.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, now we've got to go find that blasted duck
of mine.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I actually knew those fun facts. I remember reading about
the John Tyler grandson not that long ago. And Willie Mays, Yes, legend.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Hi, this is the Lord. I just took some hopium
on the Bengals winning out the rest of their games
this year. I'm also giving out free hopium to talk
that nation, So please give me a call.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Glad to hear that the Lord has still got time
after consulting deeply with Lane Keiffin.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
For you, he's here.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
An had asked their voters to rank the sixty eight
Power four teams to do their broadcast grades. I saw
this and Dan Horde and they decided to give the
voters the chance, and they get the voters Cincinnati sixth
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place out of sixty eight among all broadcasters.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Way to go.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, I saw this. This is pretty cool. It's awful announcing.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And they do their college football broadcasts duos and they
rank them and they have people vote and do all
the whole nine yards, and as he mentions, out of
sixty eight of those broadcasts, Cincinnati, Dan Hord and Tony
Pike ranked number six. And I would make the argument
that that's probably a little too low. They should be
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a little bit higher. But yeah, that was really cool,
especially for two guys that have you know, really been
in the booth together only a handful of times. Not
a surprise though, because if anybody who listens to them knows,
they're spectacular.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah, repping the city out here in sunny hot Zona.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
What up, Tonny?
Speaker 11 (22:21):
What up?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Body?
Speaker 12 (22:22):
No?
Speaker 11 (22:22):
I'm not a happy UC fan. What I watched last
night was not good. This team looks flat. I looked
at Zaber last night. They looked a little bit better
than I thought.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
Yo, Wes, if you don't beat Zaber, we got major problems.
Speaker 11 (22:33):
We don't get in this tournament. Major problems, Yo, Coach
sat Man. That's see this dumb fire hot yo Man.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Two straight seasons we lived in the season with losing streaks.
We get that crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Get
them about it here. I'm done with Coach sat game.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
The crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. Listen.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
I'm just a frustrated Bearcats fan.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
I watched both sides of the ball, football and basketball,
and when it comes to big games, our coaches.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Get out coached.
Speaker 11 (23:01):
Our players look like they've never seen the big stage before.
I mean, it's embarrassing as a Bearcats fan, man, I mean,
you can't win big games on either side of the ball.
Just look flat out embarrassing. You want to call yourself
a power for school, look like a mid major school.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Are we still in the AAC or something?
Speaker 11 (23:17):
You tell me, get somebody in here who can coach
this program and get it in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
M M.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think a lot of Bearcat fans would agree with Ronnie.
Ron out there in sunny hot Zona.
Speaker 13 (23:32):
Audi elm are in a big chair on they all
pike Everything Nation Station.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
If the Reds and Bengals can excel at one thing,
it's always given us just a little bit of hope.
Speaker 13 (23:40):
And when we think things are done now, they got
to go get it done.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
It's down on business in Buffalo. Go up there and
dine on them Buffalo wings. All right? Man, isn't it?
Isn't that a good thing? Though? Wouldn't you rather now?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I listen, I know we've all had our hearts broken
many many times by the Bengals, by the Reds, Cincinnati
sports in general. But wouldn't you rather have some hope
than no hope at all? Is some hope better than
none at all? I would think?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
So?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Hey, Austin, it's Greg.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You know.
Speaker 14 (24:15):
I just think satur Day's game being inside in Indianapolis. Yeah,
I'll take all the weather elements out of it. I
just think too, it's gonna be great, a great day
for our buck.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Guys.
Speaker 14 (24:30):
How do you feel about that? And Austin, as usual,
you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, Greg, thank you so much. Yeah, I don't know
what to make of this game. I think Kurt Signetti
is a really good coach. I think he's a really
sharp offensive mind. I think that Fernando Mendoza is just
perfectly operating that offense the way that they want it
to and they've got a good opportunistic defense. So I
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wonder if this game from both sides to an extent,
will be treated like a preseason game because they're likely
both going to get the first round by and there's
a chance that they see each other again in the playoffs.
I just wonder how much both coaches are willing to
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empty the clip, especially Signetti, and I don't know that
if that's the way they're thinking at all.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
But you know, I.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Matt Patricia's defense really truly has not been tested. When
they went down six nothing to Michigan last week, that
was their biggest deficit of the entire season in Ohio States,
credit they came back. Now, six points is basically nothing.
It's one possession. It's basically less than one possession. So
I don't know what to expect of this game. I've
told my friends and my Buckeye fans, and I've said
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it on here. The only team that I really worry
about is Indiana just because of their explosiveness, their consistency.
They haven't faltered, they haven't messed up. They're just a
good team and a good offensive mind. And I just
wonder when the test is going to come for Matt Patricia.
Everybody's talking about him like he's the greatest coach in
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the history of football, and I get it, that defense
is unbelievable. I just wonder, you know, stylistically, what this
game looks like between those two sides, because yes, it matters,
but ultimately, how much does it matter? We talked in
the past that having the number one seed isn't always
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the best thing in the college football playoffs, And if
both teams are going to get a bye, and if
they basically flip flop positions, you know, I don't know.
I really don't know what to expect. But how could
I not have faith in what the Buckeyes have done?
Speaker 15 (26:47):
Hey, g Audie, can you tell me why is Jermaine
Burton still on the Bengals squad? Why haven't they caught
him in Henderson? There's no way that they tag or
resign them.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
He's just out right.
Speaker 15 (26:58):
Unless when it comes to college foot there are just
too many damn bowl games outside of the college football playoffs.
There should be a few for the teams that were
on the outside looking in didn't make it because of strength,
to schedule or whatever. I don't care, and I don't
know anyone that cares about Buffa's base shot Bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
YEP, I agree with you one thousand percent. Way too
many bowl games oversaturated. Once again, that's a television problem
as far as I understand it. As Ronnie Ron called it,
the crappy dot com nobody cares Bowl. There's a lot
of those. There's about fifty of those every year. It
seems like Jermaine Burton, no idea why he's still here.
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He's taking up a roster spot. I was talking about
this over the weekend. Isaiah Williams has had an excellent
season with the New York Jets as a kick and
punk returner and a little bit as a wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
How is he like?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
It still blows my mind that the Bengals chose Jermaine
Burton over him. It's just it's ridiculous. I don't know
why he's still on the team.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
What's off Boston, jovin Baltimore? What up are Super excited
about Kentucky's high or will Stein.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Great move for the program.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
I think he's gonna do great things.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I'm over Trey Hendrickson. He's done a lot of great
things for the Bengals. But I'm ready for us to
move on. Kentucky against North Carolina tonight, big game, hopefully
you take, can probably win, win a big one.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's right, big one between Kentucky and North Carolina, which
just the battle of the blue Bloods. Is that on
campus anywhere? Or is that one of those games that's
being played, you know, in some NBA arena in New York. No,
it's that rough, Okay, wonderful. Can't wait for that nine
to thirty pm tip off right now. Kentucky favored by
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six and a half in that game. That's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 16 (28:45):
Hey there, Tony the Bengal Tiger Tuesday in Austin. Don't
got much for you guys today, but do God, I'm
stop bench and cut all right of things you don't
care about your co workers talking on out on the
fantasy teams. Two, the parlais that missed by one leg,
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and three the food that they're going to eat over
the holidays season goodbye.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I would start their parlays, I would bench their fantasy teams.
I would cut the food that they're going to eat
over the holiday season. And that's something I experienced almost
every day.
Speaker 17 (29:29):
This is David reminding everybody it's Crosstown shootout week and
it's been eight seven, oh, no, fifty four days?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Bearcats? Oh my gosh, wow, So what was it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Almost three thousand days since Ohio State had beaten Michigan
and we're almost nine thousands since you see as one
at sentas.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So maybe we can.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Join forces for good here, if you're a Buckeye and
a Bearcat fan, and we can break streaks together.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Hey, Audie, back with the double doung with you. There's
a lot of things in college football. It's quite a mess.
And maybe I'm.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
Alone this, but I think a commissioner will go a
long way to square some things away.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I agree with you one hundred percent, Kevin, But how
do we get that guy? How do we get that
man or that woman? And how are we going to
get the conferences to agree on that person and to
agree to answer to that person. I don't know if
we will.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Hi Energy, how we are right?
Speaker 17 (30:32):
I think it's almost time to get al Golan back
his D. Almost it ain't there yet. Show me something
against Buffalo. Show up in Buffalo, missed that Golan and
get that D back in your name.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm gonna write this down right now because you have
to talk to Moeggar about this stuff. He's the guy
who's in charge of the way names are spelled. Ouk Tobin,
Al Golan. Neither one have the D because the Bengals
defense they played pretty good. I'm gonna have to ask
Mo today during quick hits if we can put the
D back in Al Golden's name.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Audi, what's going on? It's maso.
Speaker 13 (31:15):
So my opinion on college football and college athletics in
general is that it's completely broken. Yes, everybody's selfish and
looking out for their own interests, and I get players
and coaches going and making money and getting the bag.
I get that, But how can we not come to
an agreement that it should happen after the season is over.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Why is that so hard to implement? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I agree, and that's what I want to talk about
with the Texas Tech head coach, and he kind of explains,
like the academic side of it and the portal and
all this other stuff like there is just no structure
and that everyone is so out for themselves that it
doesn't really matter how you affect other people so long
as you take care of your program or however, like
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with the Lane Kiffen things, specifically, if anybody who is
has a job, if you are doing a job really well,
and a similar company offers you a lot more money
to do basically the same thing, and they give you
a lot more resources to do it at a higher level,
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most people are going to jump to that company if
the others aren't going to be able to offer you
those resources. I don't blame Lane Kiffin for doing that.
I will never blame somebody for leaving to get more money.
But the problem is that the system has allowed for
there to be a path of destruction, a wake of
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destruction behind him on the way out the door. And
that's an issue. Sorry for the double dip y fired
up today, But my.
Speaker 13 (32:53):
Next point was going to be I think the SEC
in Big ten they should just break off and do
their own thing, kind of have like an NFL model
and be kind of like a minor league to the NFL.
And then the rest of the League's acc Big twelve,
whatever the PAC twelve or whatever the hell that is. Yeah,
then they would just kind of be like your lower
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tier fcs, like what FCS is now.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I think that's like actually kind of a possibility. I
wouldn't be surprised if eventually something like that happens. I
do wonder though, if the SEC and Big ten can
even get along. Maybe if they're seeing enough green they will.
Speaker 18 (33:31):
Hey, guys, it's Brad in the BA boy, but any
eight just had a curiosity. What's your favorite restaurant? Mine is,
of course, Blue Ass Chili. What's your favorite pizza? I'm
a trophy guy over there in even Dale Evan loves
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it too, I hear.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Anyway, let me know, Yeah, my favorite restaurant and my
favorite pizza are any company that is willing to pay
me to endorse them and say that they are my favorite.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
That's just you know, my personal favorite.
Speaker 19 (34:08):
Awesome, it's good. What I am sick and tired of
the Jermaine Burton saga. I'm over it. Let's get rid
of this guy, maybe right out the rest of the season,
but get what you can for him after that. We
haven't seen enough from him in the league to warrant
him taking up a roster spot. I know he was
a higher draft pick, but his time is done. And
how about that field goal attempt last night?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That was cuckoo.
Speaker 19 (34:30):
Last time I've seen a field goal go haywire like
that was the grammatica field goal where.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
He tours eas Yeah afterwards, just embarrassing. Yeah, that was wild.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I don't know that I would even call Jermaine Burton
a saga as much as it's just like a disappointment
that this guy and the team have gotten to this point.
He's not worth anything. You won't get anything for him.
Wide receiver, I think is on that list of things
they're gonna have to address in the offseason to begin
with number one, Just a guy that can win more
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consistency at that three spot, more consistently at that number
three spot where Yoshaboss has been has been and you
know the depth at that position, there's a lot of unknowns. Tensley, Jones, Burton,
Obviously they need to work.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
On that spot.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back when
we do football in the Natty.
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Welcome back in It is Football and the NATI here
in hour number two on ESPN fifteen thirty. I want
to put a bow on the college football conversation and
the direction that it's obviously going. And I talked earlier
about Texas Tech head coach Joey McGuire. He was asked
in his availability prior to the Big twelve Chamchampionship game
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about what needs to be done to the college football
calendar in the wake of Lane Kiffin and the coaching
carousel and all the stuff going on. This is two
minutes of Joey McGuire providing what he thinks are viable
solutions that make sense for college football. Take a listen
to the Red Raiders head coach.
Speaker 20 (36:22):
I want to know what my team is in January,
so I could create my team and what we did
this last year and the chemistry and everything, and so
you're just putting a band aid over the problem until
we address the calendar. So in my opinion, we all
should have played August twenty third, So instead of week
zero we play, that's week one. That would mean, with
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the buys and everything, the conference championship would have been
played over Thanksgiving. So you get that out of the way.
So now we know who's in the playoffs. So if
you were saying the first round was going to be
played Saturday and then and the quarterfinals seven days after that,
semifinals seven days after that, you actually could play the
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National Championship on January first, and then the portal would
open on January second, so the season would actually be over.
So until you do that, we're still gonna have this.
If we're gonna be like the NFL to everybody's saying that.
In the NFL, there's a tampering for coaches also, and
there's a penalty, and so, hey, if you're gonna leave
(37:31):
your team that's in the playoffs, maybe your team that
you're going to is not eligible for the playoffs the
next year, Maybe that changes some of the things. Or hey,
you're gonna leave your team for the playoffs, nobody from
your past team or your team that you're coaching at
can go to the team that you're going to. You
know that they're not eligible. They ain't getting the transfer portal,
(37:53):
but they've got to go somewhere else. They can't follow
you until there's some penalties in that we're gonna get
the same thing over and over. I do think the
biggest thing that we have to address, and TV's got
to get behind this because they've already got this mapped
out with the quarterfinals and all this stuff. We've got
to push the calendar up and we've got to get
football out of the second semester. We're not supposed to
(38:16):
be playing college football on January nineteenth. That should be
over at the very worst of where it has been
in the past. I still think that's too late, and
the calendar can change that.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I love that perspective again from Joey McGuire, the Texas
Tech head coach.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I mean, that makes a ton of sense to me.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
If school in the portal is what gets in the
way of this and causes so many different issues, well
then maybe it makes a lot of sense to just
move everything up and so that you get you know,
football out of that second semester, which seems to be
the biggest issue with guys you know, going different directions
in different schools and the portal and all this other stuff.
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Either way, even if there's not a commissioner or not
a governing body or whatever it might be. I feel
like most people in college sports, and especially in college football,
specifically in college football in this case, would be in
favor of something that gets everybody on the same page.
Would they not? And if so, what really are we
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Speaker 2 (40:04):
One of the other many reasons we need a governing body,
we need some sort of regulation, We need somebody, some
group of people managing college football is for stuff like
what happened at the Big House on Saturday when the
headsets for the Ohio State sideline. All power to the
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sideline really went out and took quite some time to
get booted back up. Take a listen to what Ohio
state head coach Ryan Day had to say about that.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, we lost communication there in the second half.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
But the good news was was that earlier that week,
I thought there may be an inkling that that may happen.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So we had a plan for it.
Speaker 12 (40:49):
We had a wristband plan and then we had we
would bring Julian over and I was, you know, just
getting us through it until we get the headsets back
back up and running, which took a little while to
get done. But yeah, just by chance, you know, we
we had a plan for it, and so we were
ready to go when it happened.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Inkling, Why did you have that? Inkling? Oh, we're just
ready for everything. You just got to be ready for anything.
Speaker 12 (41:12):
And you know, when you go into any big game,
you're always trying to put continuency plans in place for
anything that could possibly happen. And so yeah, we were
just that was in here on Friday, and I think
some of the guys in the staff were looking at
me sideways, like, why would you think that would happen?
I said, I just, I just, I don't know. We
just got to be ready and be ready for anything.
It's funny how your mind works.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
He finished that answer with a wink to the reporter. Now,
in the NFL, all this stuff is managed by the
National Football League, not necessarily the case always in college football.
There's just a lot going on in that sport that
I can't I struggle to keep track of. It's it's
truly unbelievable.
Speaker 21 (41:54):
UH.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
College football schedule. This weekend conference championships gets underway. The
American is going to be Friday night. That's at eight o'clock.
That's number twenty four to two Lane up against North Texas.
Then on Saturday, Big twelve Championship BYU in Texas Tech
is at noon. The MAC Championship also at noon. That's
Miami and Western Michigan from Ford Field in Detroit. Georgia
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and Alabama from Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta is at
four o'clock. Ohio State in Indiana from Lucas Oil Stadium
in Indianapolis at eight, and the ACC title game Duke
in Virginia also at eight from Bank of America Stadium
in Charlotte. So that puts a bow on the college
football conversation. Let's go back to the pro football conversation
(42:41):
when we come back. Joe Goodberry, long time Bengals analyst
and host of Bengals on the Brain, friend of the
show and a great football mind. I have questions about
the Bengals defense. We'll talk to Joe next on ESPN
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