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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hi, Hello, and welcome into the final hour of Tony
Pike Cincy three to sixty here on ESPN fifteen thirty.
No Tony Today. Tony in for Lance down the Haul
on WLW tonight. You can listen to him after you
listen to Moe from three to six this afternoon. Mo
forty minutes from right now joins me for quick hits.
But right now we talk to Joe daniman earlier. We
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now go to Joe Goodberry on this Joe Filled Tuesday
on ESPN fifteen thirty, long time friend of the show,
host of Bengals on the Brain. Joe Goodberry joins me. Now, Hi, Joe,
how are you well.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm doing great, Excited to be on here, excited for
the week.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, well, thank you for being here. Let me start
with the defense. The Bengals defense what specifically has has
led to this Bengals defensive turnaround over the last three weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh, there's a lot of layers to that. Because they
were so bad, right, they're historically bad. They're on a
pace that well, you don't want to be on. And
the last three weeks, I think they've figured a few
things out. Number one, their blitz rate has gone up
a lot more. Nol Golden has said that that's because
the young guys are now able to do these things.
They're able to expand some of these calls and give
some different looks, and they understand the defense better so
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he can expand the playbook. I believe some of that.
The other part is I think Al Golden figured they're
going to be better against the run if they do
more three to four looks on these base downs and
early downs. And they've been doing that, and I think
it has helped getting bigger bodies at defensive tackle, not
using Demetrius Knight to do like a quasi three four
defense to bring them down to the edge play outside linebacker.
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I don't think that ever made sense. They would sometimes
kick in at the end and then have night at
outside linebacker. Instead, they've been going with three defensive tackles.
McKinley Jackson's getting more run. I think he's been a
plus player when he's been in for his fifteen snats
or so, and then you're getting Josephsai and Miles Murphy
kicked out at least one more tech, one more gap
and giving them more advantageous situations on the edge, giving
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you five defensive linemen on the front, and I think
that helps you defend the run for sure. I think
the other part is underrated. One that probably nationally no
one would bring up or even be aware of, is
eltlevating Jalen Davis to the slot corner rolling kicking Dax
sell out to the boundary. At first, they hurt Dax.
I mean that first game he got beat d by
the Patriots, Kishon Boody had those couple of one pass
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interference that didn't look good for him. But I think
Dax need to get his legs under him. We know
he can do it. He did it last year. But
Jaylen Davis has been a plus player in terms of
blitzaying run, defense, tackling, and I think that's been good
for them overall to get some three guys they can
trust that those positions.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Why do you think it took so long to get
Jalen Davis an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think they really still wanted Cam Taylor Britt to
be that guy on the boundary right, Like we've seen
enough flashes throughout his four years before, you know, going
on IR this year that I think made people believe
and I always felt it too, like, man, if they
could just straighten him out, if he could just apply himself,
if he could just go on a heater, that he
would look really good and that would make your cornerback
room better. Like, let's be honest, even with Jalen Davis
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playing well right now, in the corner room looks really good.
DJ Turner's at an all pro level. If if Cam
Taylor Britt was who we've seen flashes of and he
was that high end guy orderline cornerback one looking in
a lot of these flashes, your corner room would be
really really good with Dex in the slot. So I
think ideally you always wanted that to happen, and sometimes
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sometimes the decisions made for you. Cam is out for
the foot injury, and you say, you know what, what's
our best pass forward? It's kicking decks out to the
boundary and elevating Jalen Davis, I think makes.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So those few things that you outlined that in your
mind have have been the keys to them playing better
over the last three weeks. Is that sustainable in your
mind over the last five weeks?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think it is because they are playing a lot
of young guys. So if All's right and al Golden's
correct and saying, you know, we really couldn't do this
stuff with the playbook because they couldn't handle it. While
that was sad to hear, you know what I mean,
like that maybe we don't have the right guys on
the defenctive side of the Bengals. If it's slowly growing
and you can now do more things and you can
trust guys to do their jobs and you can trust
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that you can make this call and guys can make
adjustments based on it on the field, well then yeah,
that's sustainable. Everyone should grow into their role. You're not
supposed to play rookie linebackers around the league unless they're
like hit the ground running, they're really good. You know,
there's two guys this year, but Carson Schwessinger and John
Campbell and even Campbell's lost the starting job in Philadelphia.
He's only begetting about ten to fifteen cents per game
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as well. So you're not supposed to play these guys
because it limits your defense. And so the college linebacker
is is much different than the NFL linebackers position. So
I think when the Bengals did this and made this commitment,
they really had to peel back what they were asking
this entire defense to do, and they hurt them because
if you're not going to be overly talented, then you
better be confusing, you better be fundamentally sound, you better
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be physical, you better be great tacklers. And they were
none of that stuff for a long time this year.
So as the linebackers slowly get better, and I think
they have, it allows your defense to slowly get better.
And as they all get playing time from the front
to the back half to the linebackers, that allows the
defense to mix it up more and more. So I
do think that's sustainable.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think one of the bridespots this year has been
DJ Turner. You mentioned him a moment ago. Why do
you think it has clicked for him? And what has
been you know, the reason he's been so successful? So
far this season.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, let's go back to when he was a prospect. Right,
We've got a smaller guy. He's about one eighty, super fast,
four two six. I believe it was uh and forty.
Very good in man coverage and good ball tracking, ball skills,
but he had short arms. He wasn't the most physical guy,
so a lot of times at the catch point you
would get out muscled, or he just couldn't affect the
play enough. And I called him more of like a
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he's a humberd around these receivers in his rookie year,
or he was tight on their hips, but he couldn't
really affect the play. And as the years have gone
now he's gotten better and better of finding a way
to just knock the ball down when the receiver's pulling
it in, or being a little more physical, or getting
stronger as being a third year NFL player, now, I
think all of these things have started to click for
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him slowly. And then you bring out Golden then, who's
a heavy man defense guy, and now he's playing more
man than he ever has in his career. It's going
to make him look good. You're putting him in his
element in order to get the best version of himself.
So I think all of those things combined is putting
him on a trajectory this year where I think he
should be considered probably second team All Pro. He should
get a Pro Bowl, not if enough people around the
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country recognize it. And I've been trying to put the
data out there and like, you know, here's PFF numbers.
DJ Turner is excellent. Film reviews on DJ Turner. Look
how good he looks. I do think he looks real good.
And we're gonna be talking about when we get to the
spring in summer of potentially an extension in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Do you think that the light bulb has finally turned
on for Miles Murphy.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I don't know that it's turned on. I would say
it's definitely flickering more often than it was. I thought
his rookie year. And I went back and watched this
recently because I wanted to see what he looked like
year one, year or two, and I just watched the
Bills Bengals games from twenty twenty three. He got a
decent amount of snaps in that game as well, But
I wanted to go back and look and say, Okay,
what was the difference because some of the data even
says that Miles was winning at a similar rate as
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a pass rusher to what he's winning at now when
he was a rookie. So I said, okay, I don't
remember it that way, so let me go back and look.
And I thought he was. But so the big thing
I saw that was different now is he's much more
aware of how offenses are attacking him, how blocking schemes worked,
and how they're going to try and trick him or
get him to go inside and then they're going to
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steal him off. Much more aware where the ball is going,
where the playflow is going, so it allows him to
make more plays. We know he's long, he's very athletic,
and he's got a great get offs. He's always had
a good get off since spending the league. Where he's
lacked was I think the awareness. He didn't have the
snats right, he never was consistently playing. So I think
experience and awareness are tied together for a lot of players,
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and you can see that starting to snowball and really grow.
The other part is your hand usage and your moves
and your counter moves. He was elementary at maybe his best,
and now I think it's starting to progress a little
bit more than that. I'm not going to say he's
good yet. He doesn't look like a guy that's a
ten sec guy yet, but those flashes are starting to
be a little bit more consistent. Because we've had games
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in moments like this from Miles in the past. But
good players do it three out of four games, right,
So he needs this to continue for the final five games.
If it does, he might get his fiftyeer option picked up,
which is like thirteen point six million, So I'm sure
he's got a lot of reasons to play for that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Talking to Joe Goodbarry, host of Bengals on the Brain
also on X at Joe Goode, Let's go to the
offensive side of the ball, it felt like to me,
Joe that it was basically the same old Bengals offense.
With Joe Burrow back at the Helm against Baltimore on Thursday.
What did you make of his performance and overall, how
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do you evaluate the offense after Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, so Burrow, I thought it was a little rusty
at first. They kind of put him through a crash
course of Hey, forty two throws in the first half.
We're going a treaty like Forrest Gump with his braces,
They're just going to run right out of him, right.
And it worked because in the second half he would
look like Joe Burrow completely. He was moving around, which
is great to see, right. I mean, that was the
one thing, like, all right, it's going to be like
coming back from the calf injury where they got it.
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Just going to keep him in a shotgun and he's
not going to move at all. He's just going to
get the ball out in two point two seconds. It
wasn't that, Honestly, if you didn't know he was injured,
especially in the second half after the Russ was off,
you would have no idea that it was his first
time coming back in nine games or to ten weeks,
whatever it was. And I thought he looked like his
normal self, and I he was feeling it and he
was excited. I think the entire offense felt it. Maybe
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the defense and special teams are feeling it too. I
don't see why. There's no reason to believe these guys
won't be better when they feel like their franchise quarterback
is going to lead the offense down the field. That
you see it around the league. It always does happen.
I just can't explain it other than you know, if
you during that locker room or not, they might all
to just be seeing Joe Burrow out there and being like,
you know what, we can do it. But the offense
as a whole, the run game has been really good
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for the most of this year. Efficiency wise, EPA wise,
success rate wise, this is the best running game of
the Zach Taylor era. In terms of efficiency. They may
miss some of the power speed combo that Joe Mixon had,
but in terms of explosiveness and consistency and pass protection,
they were in a great shape for the running back position.
And on top of that, their pass protection and especially
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that Thursday night Thanksgiving game was the best pass protection
we've seen in a long time. It's the highest pass
blocking grade PFF has given them since I believe twenty sixteen.
And when you think about that, that's been a long
ten year of watching and talking offensive line. Now we're
talking about it in a positive way. They're not allowing
saxis this year. It's the lowest rate since twenty fourteen.
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We're talking about elite offensive lines in front of Andy
Dalton those two years. It's good. We're in good shape,
and I hope this continues. To hope t Higgins gets
back and they can find their elite level over the
final five games, because if they can, I don't think
anyone wants to play them when they're at their peak
gun offense.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's my favorite thing to say about the Bengals at
the end of every season. Nobody wants to play them
at home, right, Yeah, especially when the other thing to
you you mentioned the run game being so good. Is
it as simple as the offensive lineman are just performing better,
or do you think it's a scheme tweak that has
led to that being a more explosive and dependable part
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of their offense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think it is a lot of a scheme tweak.
I think Chase Brown is running really well, but we've
also seen smagp Ryan have more explosives than he's ever
had in his career. Maybe not this last Thursday night
where it seemed like, come on, give the ball to
Chase Brown. Love the finish this game, but the offensive
line has blocked a lot better. And when I talk
in this scheme, I think it's the marrying of the
run in the past and when we used to use
that phrase in the pass and we've talked about that
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for a how many offseasons. At this point I was
doing right, like, they got to figure out how to
marry the run in the pass game. Usually I was
thinking about it from the perspective of to make the
passing offense better, Right, let's get the run game going
so the pass offense can look better. They actually did
it in reverse, and it made me think differently this season.
Is their passing the offense is good and everyone around
the league knows it, and they give the Bengals the
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lightest boxes in the league. So what are the Bengals
do to get the run game going with that? Is
they make everything still look like a pass and they
run out of it, and they will have screens built
on one side and they'll run the ball the other way,
and it really takes even more defenders out of the box.
And they are there for the first time, really toying
with defenses in terms of instead of letting the defense
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dictate when they're going to run the ball, they're almost
dictating to the defense for the first time. I think
them the Zach Taylor era of Hey, we know we're
going to show this, we know we're going to throw
the ball sixty times a game. That's if you let us.
But if you don't bring that other safety in that box,
we will run the ball and we'll actually get explosive
runs out of it. And it's it's it's been great
and I think it's a good way of keeping the
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game off of Joe burrow shoulders. Now. I know I'm
saying this after the game where he just threw the
ball forty two times in the first half, but they're
going to get in these games. It's going it's December now,
these games are going to be a grosser, right. The
field is not going to be perfect condition, it's going
to be colder. You're gonna have to lean on Chase
Brown AND's magic Peterran, and I think they are in
position to do that if they have to.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
What do you make of the split between Brown and
p Ryan. It feels like a little bit two fifty
to fifty to me. What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah? I agree, maybe this Thursday was because they just
rode Chase Brown so heavily the last few weeks whilst
Madgic p Ran was out. That's kind of how I
you know, justified it in my head. Maybe give Brown
a piece snaps off, but he's been too good to
take off the field right now. Honestly, he's been their
second best offensive weapon. It's it's Jamar Chase and then
to me, it's Chase Brown right now. Tiegans is great,
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but like you know, you look, get the amount of
usage you're putting on a running back. The guy's gonna
touch them all way more than the number two receiver.
He's gonna have fourteen's on page fourteen hundred and nine
yards I believe it is, which would way out pace
the number two receiver. That's just how the game goes.
And he's been really good, six straight games of one
hundred plus yards because I got to look at the
receiving production because it's an extension of the run game
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for the Bengals, especially when it comes to Chase Brown,
and he's got the second most catches on the team.
So I would like to see him on the field more.
I kind of get it, though. They got to give
him a little bit of a break. And I think
Samaja is so reliable usually other than the fumble on
Thanksgiving in past protection, he's so reliable that they would
like to get him out there for at least that
if you can give Chase Brown a mental break from
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pass protection, maybe a physical break in past protection, because
he's fine there. He's got one hundred percent pass block
efficiency over the last six weeks as well, so you
can use these guys interchangeably. But I do agree I'm
looking for like a seventy thirty split rather than more
of a fifty to fifty like we saw on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Last thing before I let you go. Does the Trey
Hendrickson situ seem odd to you?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It does, for sure, and I think it's because we've
been talking about trade for so long. We've heard so
many like you know, the Bengals just being frustrated with
Trey being unhappy every year, wanting a new contract every year.
It's been drama every year for a long time. And
he's a great player, no doubt about it, and he
makes the defense better. I would love to have Trey
Hendrickson back for this stretch run, for this defense, to
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try and take it to another level. But the last
we heard, you know, they went from being a back
issue to a hip area issue, maybe a sports hernia,
which it may take time, and I wonder if there
is frustrated frustration, like, hey, this should take a month
or so to heal, and Trey Hendrickson's looking at it like, listen,
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I'm not committed to for multiple years. You guys gave
me a one year contract again. I don't have guarantee
money pass this year. I have to worry about myself
and free agency in the offseason. I'm going to make
sure I'm healthy when that time comes. I will play
when I'm ready to play. I already tried to come
back early and got hurt and it didn't work out
for me. He can't have that happen again. So if
he's just waiting until he's healthy and he's going to
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take his time, I can't blame the guy because they
haven't committed to him in the long term. But on
the other hand, the Bengals Katie Blackburn's rightly looking at
this like this is exactly why we didn't commit to
Trey andricks in long term. So you know what, I
just as a fan, as someone who enjoys watching the team,
I just want to see him back so it can
help them out. And I hope he's healthy and I
hope he can You're in a high note, so he
can get the money he deserves in the off season.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you've pointed this out on your social media in
the past before, and I do think it's important to
note that that sometimes football can be as simple as
you just want to watch the best players play for
your team. I think sometimes we forget about that as fans.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, that's exactly right, and that's why I always wanted
them to trade for Joe Flacka when it happened. I
wanted them to get a quarterback in here because I
wanted to see t against jamar Chees do their thing.
And I wanted Burrow to return because I like watching
Joe Burrow play, and on the defensive side, I want
to watch Trendrickson play. And if it's the last year
he's in Cincinnati, and what a great five years. It's
been four and a half years. I would like to
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see him one more time before it's over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
No doubt about it. Joe Goodberry Bengals on the Brain,
What are you working on? What do you got coming up?
How can people follow along with everything you're you got
going on?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, tonight at seven o'clock, we got a Bengals on
the Brain presented by First Star Logistics film review of
Joe Burrow's return versus Baltimore. Look for that on the
First Media YouTube channel seven o'clock tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Awesome stuff. Joe, thanks so much. Man, really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Thank you, Austin.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is Joe Goodberry at Joe Goodberry on x Dude
knows this stuff. He watches the film. Uh, he consults
the data as you heard him reference a couple of
different times there. And awesome when we get a chance
to talk to him and have him on the show.
One of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people
to follow on Twitter that I've I think I've been
following him for almost fifteen sixteen years now, which is
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kind of crazy just to go all around. Good dude.
So go check him out if you haven't already. We'll
take a break. Phone lines back open five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen to thirty. Anything you want to talk about. Plus
hear what Richard Patino said after his Xavier Team one
last night, Here what Wes Miller said after his bear
Cat Team one last night, and each coach's final tune
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up ahead of the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. All that,
plus Moegar about half an hour from right now. It's
all next. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
From the locker room whispers to stadium roars. He's got
it all Moegar today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Rolling right along Tony Pike since e three sixty ESPN
fifteen thirty, about half an hour or so to go.
You're wondering where Tony is. He'll be on WLW tonight
seven hundred, that is six to nine. He's got sports
talk in for Lance Mo between us from three to
six at Oakley Greens. We'll talk to him twenty minutes
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from right now. College basketball conversation coming up in just
a second. But first let's go the phones five three,
seven nine, fifteen thirty. If you want to call in
and be a part of the show, Let's go to
Mike in Los Angeles right now. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Hey, thanks, Pal, appreciate it. Hey, I really I'm going
to get right into the football thing. But I really
do think that Richard Patino Junior ultimately is going to
be a better coach than West Miller. I just think
the pedigree is there. You look at his dad, He's
been learning from arguably the best college coach head coach
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ever in college basketball to win championships at two different
schools in the same state, by the way, and with
that kind of pedigree and that kind of learning that
he's just been groomed with since he was probably five
or six years old, I just think he is going
to be a superior co is a superior coach to
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West Miller.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I think that's a I think that's a fair take.
I mean, we're still waiting on it for Wes Miller, right, Like,
we've heard a lot and we've we've been total a lot,
but we haven't really seen a lot. And obviously the
expectations are a little bit different with Patino at this
point in the game. But you can tell there is,
you know, legitimate progress being made. Even if the opponents
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maybe are not the best that they're going up against,
you can at least see, okay, this thing's heading in
the right direction With Richard Patino.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. And anybody
that argues that, I don't know what the basis or
the substance of their argument would be. But you know,
I love this good bery guy, Austin. I loved him
He's like the Bengals micro micro management analyst of Greg Cosel,
who does you know everything? You know? How?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, it's a great comparison.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, this guy is every time you now, especially today,
this guy, I mean, my god, man, he opened my
eyes up about a bunch of stuff. And I appreciate
you having any more because he he really is. You can,
like you just said, you can tell he does his homework.
This guy's no joke.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, And he mentioned does a film break down a
show that he posts on the YouTube page. It's it's
really insightful stuff and makes it easy for people who
maybe don't watch the film or don't know that much
of some of the terminology. Makes it really easy to understand.
So yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, and even for me, I kind of understand it.
But he's still, you know, spends more time on it
than than most of us do. So that's and like
you said, he explains it very well to a layman.
But I don't know if that's the right term. But
I heard an interest. Did you hear Patrick this morning?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I heard a chunk of it, not all of it, though.
What happened?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Do you hear the interview with Steve Young. He loves
Steve Young.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, I didn't hear Steve Young.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And Steve Young is retally a smart guy. You know,
he went on from football and got it. He's a lawyer.
And the guy is just brilliant, brilliant, brilliant mind, and
he's a fun guy. But he was so Dan asked him,
why do you think Stafford's doing so well with other
than this debacle the other day? And he said, I'll
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tell you why, because you look at the guys who
are pure pocket passers, like Breeze, like Peyton, like Brady,
and now the only ones that are left are Rogers
and Stafford. And these guys are playing quarterback of a
higher intellect than the rollout passers. And the guys who
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can run the ball, they can pick a defensive part
much more succinctly than than these guys in the current
day style of quarterback. And I wanted to get your pack.
I thought it was a stute, but I wanted to
get your opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I think that's that's kind of part of like
the the years of of like the spread offense and
the seven on seven style of offense that's come up
through the high school and college ranks, and Tony would
be able to understand maybe explain this better than I could.
But those guys have seen every possible defense and combination
of defense and understand the different ways to beat it.
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Whereas a lot of the days, a lot of times now,
quarterbacks come up through this system and this is what
we're running, and this is how we're gonna do it,
and here's your read and if it's not there, take
off and use your legs and use your athleticism to
go get the first down. There's less going through the
progression and operating the offense and taking advantage of the
defense as much as it's one read and go and
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take off with your feet. At least that's my perception
of it. And the more that you play and the
more that you see those defenses, the more that you understand. Okay,
and like a guy like Stafford or even like Burrow
for an example, it may not have the athletic ability
to do that. So they have to be able to
learn how to process it, have to be able to
learn how to get from one read to the other,
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or when to check it down and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
That's what he was basically saying is these guys are
much more cerebral and and their ability to to just
quickly dissect it. But like you said, they I mean
they didn't. They hadn't seen everything when they were young guys,
but they came up in that environment. And Uh and
Rogers and Stafford are still around, so they're I mean,
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he made a sound like this, and now I know
you got to go. He said, Stafford.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He laughed.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
He said, Stafford is actually laughing at this stuff, and
so simple for him. Yeah, he didn't know what happened.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
The other day.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
He said, it doesn't matter. We all have a bad games.
But anyway, thank you, Austin.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I appreciate you, Mike, thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
Didn't Yeah, I mean I think Stafford too. Just ridiculous
arm talent and just a perfect marriage between UH quarterback
and coach and obviously the weapons Adams Nakua, their run game.
I mean, the Rams are the best team in the
NF as far as I'm concerned, at least right now. Uh,
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time for another Let's go to Hyde Park. Let's talk
to Matt. What's up, Matt, Hey, Awestin, how you doing, man,
I'm good man. What's on your mind. Well, I'm I
was calling in about the buck guys.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I uh, I was gonna see is.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
There anybody Is there anybody in the field, like on
the playoff field that scares you?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Is there one team?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I would say Indiana and Georgia. My friends say I'm
crazy for being scared of Indiana, but I mean, you
don't go twelve and zero on accident, and Signetti wins
everywhere he goes, so that in Georgia just I feel
like has slowly been increasing in slowly getting better over
the course of the season. So I would say.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Them, Yeah, I honestly I agree that there's really aside
from Bama, Georgia and Indiana, I don't I don't know
anybody that actually has got don't anybody can score on us.
I feel I feel great, I feel good.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It really comes to me though, it comes to those two.
Those two quarterbacks Mendoza and Gunner Stockton are experienced. They
operate the offense really well. And when you have quarterbacks
like that, you at least stand the chance against a defense.
It may not be, you know, a huge chance, but
when you have those you know, experienced passers, I think
it means a lot.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, and then I guess the other thing I left
to talk back the other day.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I'm pretty passionate about this.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But with the Notre Dame in Miami, do you have
a do you have an opinion on that?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't honestly, who would you Who would you put in?
Who won head to head Miami?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Right?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, But but who
would you put in?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't know. I honest to god, I've been not
really focused on that at all, but I would I
would probably put Notre Dame in.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
So yeah, I mean, Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
They look they have, they looked so much better.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
But it's like Miami beat them.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
It's true. Whenever they got in, whenever we won the
national title in twenty fourteen, it was because of Baylor
and TCU.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
TCU had this amazing uh you know, I guess resume.
But but Baylor beat him head to head, and that's
and and but but Baylor didn't look great. So they
just said, well, we can't put we can't put Baylor
in ahead of TCU because like they just have it
look great.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
So they just threw high stated in.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and that's what that's what that was like, That's
what got us in. Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean,
I I wouldn't have a problem with either one of them.
I guess I would lean Notre Dame. But I don't
know that I really have a good reason for that
other than I don't trust Miami and I don't trust
Carson Beck. But yeah, I mean, this is this is
what I love about college football is that we get
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to have this debate every single year. No matter what,
there's always this situation scenario.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
It is.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
It's gonna be like there's gonna be probably three, four
or five teams that all pretty much have the same argument.
They're all good, They're all gonna look pretty close.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, Balin or aka Matt.
Thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, sir, have it going on.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You too, man. That is Ballin ain't easy, as he's
affectionately known to so many. While we were having that conversation,
the Bengals made a roster move. The Bengals today signed
cornerback Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. He is a
six foot one hundred and ninety pound rookie out of
Penn State. He was a college free agent signee of
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the Titans in May, was waived by the Titans on
final cuts and spent the four games earlier this season
four games earlier this season on Buffalo's practice squad. He
was released from the Bills on October fourteenth, so earlier today.
The Bengals signed Jalen Davis to the active roster and
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now they've signed Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. That
is the latest when it comes to the Bengals. We'll
take a break, We'll come back. College basketball Crosstown Shootout
coming up this weekend. Hear what both coaches had to
say after wins last night on ESPN fifteen to thirty.
(29:11):
Welcome back Tony Pike sincey three to sixty On ESPN
fifteen thirty on Austin Elmore talked about the fact that
college basketball the world centers around Cincinnati on Friday with
the Crosstown or the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. Well, last
night both teams victorious Xavier and Cincinnati and their final
(29:33):
tune ups ahead of the shootout. Cincinnati won seventy eight
to fifty six over Tarleton State. Xavier won ninety six
seventy four over Saint Francis. Here is Xavier head coach
Richard Patino following his team's win. Well, certainly did.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Some good things, did some bad things as well. We're
up twenty seven with five point thirty to go, and
you know, let them cut that lead to twenty two.
That was frustrating, but second half was certainly good. We
continue to not to turn the ball over, which has
been terrific. You know, twenty three assists, eight turnovers, really good.
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Roddy provided a phenomenal spark off the bench, so it
was a great win. You know, we got to learn
some things, get a little bit tougher on the ball defensively,
but we're doing some good things and now we certainly
got to get back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Richard Patino in that victorious press conference last night, he
was pretty reserved, just thirty seconds or so of an
opening statement. Not quite as reserved was Wes Miller following
his team's win over Tarleton State. Here's the Bearcats head coach.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
First off, We've been really trying to work on some
things offensively the last couple of days, and I could
see some of those things take in shape. I thought
we did a good job with our movement. You could
see the movement early. I thought we got the ball
to the inside with the dribble and with the pass early.
And I thought we generated really good shots early in
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the first half. We didn't sustain it, but you could
see some of the stuff that we were doing in
the last couple of days of practice taking shape offensively.
I thought that the turnovers were careless. Now, Bob I
had seven of them in the first half.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And you know, he hadn't.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Played basketball for eight days or whatever the heck it's been,
so you know, I know I said this on the radio,
but I'll say it now. I mean, he ain't one
hundred percent and he got hit. He got hit, in
my opinion, not a real good play that he got
hit on in the Louisville game. That took him out,
and he ain't one hundred percent, and he sucked it
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up and played, And that, to me is more important
than seven turnovers. That, to me, is what Cincinnati basketball's about.
Everybody told him to sit out for another week or so.
He didn't want to sit out. He wanted to play.
Nobody made him play, nobody told him to play. He said,
I will play with my teammates and help Cincinnati. So yeah,
he had seven turnovers, but I'll take the guy that
wants to fight through it when they're not one hundred
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percent all day, every day. So I was pleased with that.
But the turnovers not just his, but we're careless. Three
times we're jumping out of bounds or falling out of
bounds throwing the ball to the other team. We made
nice defensive plays. That was frustrating, so we got some
things we got to clean up again. In the second half,
I thought we did a better job of getting the
ball inside in the post, and I don't like moves
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line in a game like that where he has such
a size advantage, we have to take advantage of that more.
And he had a couple of silly fouls and some
things not go his way. But I did think we
got it inside there. I liked that we run the
rebounding war again. The turnovers were frustrated, and some of
the defensive airs were frustrating, but there was some really
good defensive possessions too.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That is you see head coach Wes Miller after the
win over Tarleton State, the Crosstown Shootout, the Skyline Chile
Crosstown Shootout, is Friday at seven point thirty pm. You
will be able to hear it right tier on all
of our networks in iHeartMedia Cincinnati, both the Xavier broadcast
and the Cincinnati broadcast. Good Night of College Basketball coming
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up tonight mentioned earlier. Number eighteen Kentucky hosting number sixteen
North Carolina in the acc SEC Men's Challenge, a game
being played obviously at Rupp Arena. You'll hear it right
here on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Wildcats six and a
half point favorites in that game over North Carolina. Before
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them in the acc SEC Men's Challenge is number four
Duke hosting number fifteen Florida at Cameron Indoors Stadium. That's
a seven thirty pm tip off and Duke favored by
eight and a half in that game. There's also a
top twenty five matchup between Yukon and Kansas Number five
Yukon at number twenty one Kansas Connecticut one and a
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half point favorites on the road at Allen field Hall
at Fieldhouse. The number one team in the country, per
Due is in act. They are at Rutgers number twenty four.
Usc is at Oregon number thirteen Tennessee at Syracuse, Iowa
is at number seven. Michigan State as well. Those are
your top twenty five matchups in college basketball tonight. NKU
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back in action tomorrow night in the beginning of Horizon
League play for the Norse KU, by the way, first
place in the Horizon League right now. They get started
tomorrow night at Truest Arena with Cleveland State coming to town.
NKU six and two on the season, tied for first
in the Horizon League with Cleveland State coming to town
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tomorrow seven pm in Highland Heights. So if you're not
watching that, you know what else comes back on tonight
for the first time in a long time. It's been
way too long as far as I'm concerned. Let's see
if I have the music here ready to go. That's right.
Hard Knocks in season comes back on tonight as well.
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You remember this was a big deal last year when
the Bengals were on it. It was the AFC North.
This year it's the NFC East. He might be thinking,
oh gosh, the Eagles and Cowboys. I don't know that
there's been a division in football with more drama or
more compelling storylines than the NFC East. Obviously, think about
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the Giants. You got Jackson Dart and Camp Scataboo and
Russell Wilson and Brian da Ball gets fired and he's
going into the blue medical tent. You've got the Eagles
and their nonsense with their offense and Kevin Petulo's house,
their offensive coordinator was just egged the other night by
Eagles fans. The aj brown saga going on. You've got
Washington who had these major high expectations but haven't been
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able to get off the ground. Jaden Daniels playing in
a game when he shouldn't have and got injured, Terry
mclaurin's injury all season long. They're also trying to get
a stadium built in DC. And then the Cowboys are
a soap opera every day. They obviously have the tragedy
of Marshawn Neeland passing away earlier this year, the trade
deadline and going after Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson and
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all the different stuff that happened. I'm very excited to
check out Hard Knocks tonight in the NFC easton for
that season as well. We'll take a break, we'll come
back when we do, we'll talk to Moegar. He's at
Oakley Greens. This is ESPN fifteen.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
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Speaker 3 (36:44):
It's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Fifteenth There looking for more. Yes, indeed, it is time
for quick hits. And this is typically when we are
joined by our friend Moegar. Mo, of course, on Tuesdays,
does his show live from Oakley Greens. And I'm not mistaken.
I believe we have Mo. Now, Moe are you there?
Moe not quite ready to go? That's all right? And uh,
(37:09):
Moe's show coming up this afternoon. I'm starting to see
levels now. I don't know if Mo's there. Moe are
you there now?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
I am very much here?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Hi man, how are you?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
I'm good man? How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm wonderful the beauties of live radio when you produce
your own show. Uh, you got a show coming up
this afternoon? What's going to be on it?
Speaker 8 (37:29):
We're at Oakley Greens. Yes, we're at Oakley Greens. It's exciting.
It's warm in here. By the way, come to Oakley
Greens because the roads are fine. The roads are some
of the drivers aren't. The roads completely and totally fine.
So we're here at Oakley Greens. Paul Danner Junior is
gonna join us. I like that the Bengals. The Bengals
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are back. I'm hearing some are saying the Bengals are back.
Paul has a couple of good pieces that we're going
to talk about. We wrote about Joe Burrow in the
aftermath of the game on Thursday night. He also wrote
about the continued weirdness of the Trey Hendrickson situation, which
we're gonna spend some time on. There's lots of different
Bengals issues to discuss with our guy, Paul Danner Junior.
(38:10):
Sean sayed Stats and Scheme Newsletter. Our guy who kind
of dives into x's and o's with us, is going
to talk about the improved Bengals defense. We'll get to
the Bills as well, since the Bengals play them. Jeff
Pokoro will be on the show. Kentucky has a new
football coach. Pick is going to join us to talk
about him. I got a few things We're gonna do
an early take on the skyline Chile Crosstown shootout. We
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have multiple UC football truths, and I am looking for
the non financial reason why the Red should not sign
Kyle Schwarber. And I will compare Kyle Schwarber to a
ticket I bought to a game not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
My biggest You were talking about drivers in the roads
and everything. Do you think Cincinnati has good drivers? I
think drivers are the same everywhere. I disagree with that.
I think Cincinna has excellent drivers. I'm a good driver,
Yeah you know. I mean I was in Columbus the
other weekend. It was miserable, awful.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Really Yeah, see, you drive enough, you find bad drivers.
But like, this is what annoys me. We get a
moderate amount of snow, right Usually it's like we get
like two big snow days and that's it. I don't
know if today qualifies, but every time you do, you're
gonna hear from somebody who's like from upstate New York like, yeah,
you folks don't know how to drive in the snow.
And invariably I'll go to like Syracuse dot com and
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they will be on the front page twenty five car
pile up. Yeah, well, clearly you guys in the snow
don't know how to drive either, So I think that's
one of the most overrated tropes. People here don't know
how to drive in the snow. Now, if we were
in Biloxi, Mississippi, and suddenly it snowed right in this
place where they never get snow, I'm guessing people would
have no idea what they're doing behind the wheel. I
think as a general rule, we have good drivers. I
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will tell you this though, that in this era of
like everybody shooting each other, the one thing that I
hate that has gone away is like a real good
give someone the bird on the interstate who drives poorly.
There used to be a great amount of satisfaction that
one would get when someone committed a highway faux pas,
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and you would just let him know how you felt
by just sticking on the gun, sticking on the bird. Right,
I've been on the receiver. Now you don't know right
now you have you have no idea. You throw someone
the bird, they may pull out a clock. That is
among the many things I don't like about this era
where our national pastime is shooting everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You're not you can't really throw someone you like.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Double barrel.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You can't do it anymore. And I got scared. I
was like, I probably shouldn't have done that, even though
I laid on the horn. But yeah, no, it's you're
exactly right. Well, can I tell you something that happened
to me at this station? So this was just over
the weekend. Is it the Kroger on Harrison? Sure?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Because I use my Kroger points to get cheaper, cheaper
gas smart And I'm filling my tank and as I do,
I'm cleaning some stuff out of my car. This woman
pulls up. The first thing that happens is she nearly
hits me more my sort of negligence than hers. She
pulls up at the pump right in front of me,
and I just noticed, like she never gets out of
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the car, Like she pulls up to the pump and
never gets out of the car. Now, I remember what
it was like back in the day. My dad would
drive you pull up, guy would walk to the window.
Can I fill your tank? Can I clean your windshield?
That sort of We don't do that anymore. This woman
just pulls up and So I was kind of finishing
up my gas all that sort of stuff, and I'd
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like pull up like next to her to pull out
of the gas station, and I see she has her
window rolled down in an obvious attempt to communicate with somebody.
And I thought, because she nearly hit me, she wanted
to say something to me. So I rolled down my
passenger window and I go, hey, everything all right, and
she's like, yes, I was hoping there would be a
gentleman here who would pump my.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Gas for me, did you.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
Yes, nice woman, We're not talking about a ninety two
year old lady.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Right.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Woman was probably a little bit older than me. I
really appreciated that. Right. She thought chivalry was not dead.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, she and you proved it.
Speaker 8 (42:13):
It was clinging to this like age when like men
probably did that for women. And I'm like, yeah, man,
I'll do that for you, No problem. Got out pumped
the gas. Kind of thought she tipped me or something
that didn't happen. That happened on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Okay, Well, you've got some good karma out there that
hopefully will come back your way. Thanks, no problem. Moegger
is next for the Moegger Radio Show at Oakley Greens.
Thanks Mo. He's a I love what he tells a story,
and I have no idea where it's going. It's my
absolute favorite. Tony is back tomorrow high noon for Tony
(42:51):
Pikes since e three sixty. Thanks so much for listening.
Moegger is next on the Home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hi, Hello, and welcome into the final hour of Tony
Pike Cincy three to sixty here on ESPN fifteen thirty.
No Tony Today. Tony in for Lance down the Haul
on WLW tonight. You can listen to him after you
listen to Moe from three to six this afternoon. Mo
forty minutes from right now joins me for quick hits.
But right now we talk to Joe daniman earlier. We
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now go to Joe Goodberry on this Joe Filled Tuesday
on ESPN fifteen thirty, long time friend of the show,
host of Bengals on the Brain. Joe Goodberry joins me. Now, Hi, Joe,
how are you well.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm doing great, Excited to be on here, excited for
the week.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, well, thank you for being here. Let me start
with the defense. The Bengals defense what specifically has has
led to this Bengals defensive turnaround over the last three weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh, there's a lot of layers to that. Because they
were so bad, right, they're historically bad. They're on a
pace that well, you don't want to be on. And
the last three weeks, I think they've figured a few
things out. Number one, their blitz rate has gone up
a lot more. Nol Golden has said that that's because
the young guys are now able to do these things.
They're able to expand some of these calls and give
some different looks, and they understand the defense better so
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he can expand the playbook. I believe some of that.
The other part is I think Al Golden figured they're
going to be better against the run if they do
more three to four looks on these base downs and
early downs. And they've been doing that, and I think
it has helped getting bigger bodies at defensive tackle, not
using Demetrius Knight to do like a quasi three four
defense to bring them down to the edge play outside linebacker.
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I don't think that ever made sense. They would sometimes
kick in at the end and then have night at
outside linebacker. Instead, they've been going with three defensive tackles.
McKinley Jackson's getting more run. I think he's been a
plus player when he's been in for his fifteen snats
or so, and then you're getting Josephsai and Miles Murphy
kicked out at least one more tech, one more gap
and giving them more advantageous situations on the edge, giving
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you five defensive linemen on the front, and I think
that helps you defend the run for sure. I think
the other part is underrated. One that probably nationally no
one would bring up or even be aware of, is
eltlevating Jalen Davis to the slot corner rolling kicking Dax
sell out to the boundary. At first, they hurt Dax.
I mean that first game he got beat d by
the Patriots, Kishon Boody had those couple of one pass
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interference that didn't look good for him. But I think
Dax need to get his legs under him. We know
he can do it. He did it last year. But
Jaylen Davis has been a plus player in terms of
blitzaying run, defense, tackling, and I think that's been good
for them overall to get some three guys they can
trust that those positions.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Why do you think it took so long to get
Jalen Davis an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think they really still wanted Cam Taylor Britt to
be that guy on the boundary right, Like we've seen
enough flashes throughout his four years before, you know, going
on IR this year that I think made people believe
and I always felt it too, like, man, if they
could just straighten him out, if he could just apply himself,
if he could just go on a heater, that he
would look really good and that would make your cornerback
room better. Like, let's be honest, even with Jalen Davis
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playing well right now, in the corner room looks really good.
DJ Turner's at an all pro level. If if Cam
Taylor Britt was who we've seen flashes of and he
was that high end guy orderline cornerback one looking in
a lot of these flashes, your corner room would be
really really good with Dex in the slot. So I
think ideally you always wanted that to happen, and sometimes
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sometimes the decisions made for you. Cam is out for
the foot injury, and you say, you know what, what's
our best pass forward? It's kicking decks out to the
boundary and elevating Jalen Davis, I think makes.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So those few things that you outlined that in your
mind have have been the keys to them playing better
over the last three weeks. Is that sustainable in your
mind over the last five weeks?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think it is because they are playing a lot
of young guys. So if All's right and al Golden's
correct and saying, you know, we really couldn't do this
stuff with the playbook because they couldn't handle it. While
that was sad to hear, you know what I mean,
like that maybe we don't have the right guys on
the defenctive side of the Bengals. If it's slowly growing
and you can now do more things and you can
trust guys to do their jobs and you can trust
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that you can make this call and guys can make
adjustments based on it on the field, well then yeah,
that's sustainable. Everyone should grow into their role. You're not
supposed to play rookie linebackers around the league unless they're
like hit the ground running, they're really good. You know,
there's two guys this year, but Carson Schwessinger and John
Campbell and even Campbell's lost the starting job in Philadelphia.
He's only begetting about ten to fifteen cents per game
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as well. So you're not supposed to play these guys
because it limits your defense. And so the college linebacker
is is much different than the NFL linebackers position. So
I think when the Bengals did this and made this commitment,
they really had to peel back what they were asking
this entire defense to do, and they hurt them because
if you're not going to be overly talented, then you
better be confusing, you better be fundamentally sound, you better
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be physical, you better be great tacklers. And they were
none of that stuff for a long time this year.
So as the linebackers slowly get better, and I think
they have, it allows your defense to slowly get better.
And as they all get playing time from the front
to the back half to the linebackers, that allows the
defense to mix it up more and more. So I
do think that's sustainable.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think one of the bridespots this year has been
DJ Turner. You mentioned him a moment ago. Why do
you think it has clicked for him? And what has
been you know, the reason he's been so successful? So
far this season.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, let's go back to when he was a prospect. Right,
We've got a smaller guy. He's about one eighty, super fast,
four two six. I believe it was uh and forty.
Very good in man coverage and good ball tracking, ball skills,
but he had short arms. He wasn't the most physical guy,
so a lot of times at the catch point you
would get out muscled, or he just couldn't affect the
play enough. And I called him more of like a
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he's a humberd around these receivers in his rookie year,
or he was tight on their hips, but he couldn't
really affect the play. And as the years have gone
now he's gotten better and better of finding a way
to just knock the ball down when the receiver's pulling
it in, or being a little more physical, or getting
stronger as being a third year NFL player, now, I
think all of these things have started to click for
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him slowly. And then you bring out Golden then, who's
a heavy man defense guy, and now he's playing more
man than he ever has in his career. It's going
to make him look good. You're putting him in his
element in order to get the best version of himself.
So I think all of those things combined is putting
him on a trajectory this year where I think he
should be considered probably second team All Pro. He should
get a Pro Bowl, not if enough people around the
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country recognize it. And I've been trying to put the
data out there and like, you know, here's PFF numbers.
DJ Turner is excellent. Film reviews on DJ Turner. Look
how good he looks. I do think he looks real good.
And we're gonna be talking about when we get to the
spring in summer of potentially an extension in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Do you think that the light bulb has finally turned
on for Miles Murphy.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I don't know that it's turned on. I would say
it's definitely flickering more often than it was. I thought
his rookie year. And I went back and watched this
recently because I wanted to see what he looked like
year one, year or two, and I just watched the
Bills Bengals games from twenty twenty three. He got a
decent amount of snaps in that game as well, But
I wanted to go back and look and say, Okay,
what was the difference because some of the data even
says that Miles was winning at a similar rate as
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a pass rusher to what he's winning at now when
he was a rookie. So I said, okay, I don't
remember it that way, so let me go back and look.
And I thought he was. But so the big thing
I saw that was different now is he's much more
aware of how offenses are attacking him, how blocking schemes worked,
and how they're going to try and trick him or
get him to go inside and then they're going to
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steal him off. Much more aware where the ball is going,
where the playflow is going, so it allows him to
make more plays. We know he's long, he's very athletic,
and he's got a great get offs. He's always had
a good get off since spending the league. Where he's
lacked was I think the awareness. He didn't have the
snats right, he never was consistently playing. So I think
experience and awareness are tied together for a lot of players,
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and you can see that starting to snowball and really grow.
The other part is your hand usage and your moves
and your counter moves. He was elementary at maybe his best,
and now I think it's starting to progress a little
bit more than that. I'm not going to say he's
good yet. He doesn't look like a guy that's a
ten sec guy yet, but those flashes are starting to
be a little bit more consistent. Because we've had games
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in moments like this from Miles in the past. But
good players do it three out of four games, right,
So he needs this to continue for the final five games.
If it does, he might get his fiftyeer option picked up,
which is like thirteen point six million, So I'm sure
he's got a lot of reasons to play for that.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Talking to Joe Goodbarry, host of Bengals on the Brain
also on X at Joe Goode, Let's go to the
offensive side of the ball, it felt like to me,
Joe that it was basically the same old Bengals offense.
With Joe Burrow back at the Helm against Baltimore on Thursday.
What did you make of his performance and overall, how
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do you evaluate the offense after Buffalo?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, so Burrow, I thought it was a little rusty
at first. They kind of put him through a crash
course of Hey, forty two throws in the first half.
We're going a treaty like Forrest Gump with his braces,
They're just going to run right out of him, right.
And it worked because in the second half he would
look like Joe Burrow completely. He was moving around, which
is great to see, right. I mean, that was the
one thing, like, all right, it's going to be like
coming back from the calf injury where they got it.
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Just going to keep him in a shotgun and he's
not going to move at all. He's just going to
get the ball out in two point two seconds. It
wasn't that, Honestly, if you didn't know he was injured,
especially in the second half after the Russ was off,
you would have no idea that it was his first
time coming back in nine games or to ten weeks,
whatever it was. And I thought he looked like his
normal self, and I he was feeling it and he
was excited. I think the entire offense felt it. Maybe
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the defense and special teams are feeling it too. I
don't see why. There's no reason to believe these guys
won't be better when they feel like their franchise quarterback
is going to lead the offense down the field. That
you see it around the league. It always does happen.
I just can't explain it other than you know, if
you during that locker room or not, they might all
to just be seeing Joe Burrow out there and being like,
you know what, we can do it. But the offense
as a whole, the run game has been really good
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for the most of this year. Efficiency wise, EPA wise,
success rate wise, this is the best running game of
the Zach Taylor era. In terms of efficiency. They may
miss some of the power speed combo that Joe Mixon had,
but in terms of explosiveness and consistency and pass protection,
they were in a great shape for the running back position.
And on top of that, their pass protection and especially
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that Thursday night Thanksgiving game was the best pass protection
we've seen in a long time. It's the highest pass
blocking grade PFF has given them since I believe twenty sixteen.
And when you think about that, that's been a long
ten year of watching and talking offensive line. Now we're
talking about it in a positive way. They're not allowing
saxis this year. It's the lowest rate since twenty fourteen.
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We're talking about elite offensive lines in front of Andy
Dalton those two years. It's good. We're in good shape,
and I hope this continues. To hope t Higgins gets
back and they can find their elite level over the
final five games, because if they can, I don't think
anyone wants to play them when they're at their peak
gun offense.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's my favorite thing to say about the Bengals at
the end of every season. Nobody wants to play them
at home, right, Yeah, especially when the other thing to
you you mentioned the run game being so good. Is
it as simple as the offensive lineman are just performing better,
or do you think it's a scheme tweak that has
led to that being a more explosive and dependable part
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of their offense.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think it is a lot of a scheme tweak.
I think Chase Brown is running really well, but we've
also seen smagp Ryan have more explosives than he's ever
had in his career. Maybe not this last Thursday night
where it seemed like, come on, give the ball to
Chase Brown. Love the finish this game, but the offensive
line has blocked a lot better. And when I talk
in this scheme, I think it's the marrying of the
run in the past and when we used to use
that phrase in the pass and we've talked about that
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for a how many offseasons. At this point I was
doing right, like, they got to figure out how to
marry the run in the pass game. Usually I was
thinking about it from the perspective of to make the
passing offense better, Right, let's get the run game going
so the pass offense can look better. They actually did
it in reverse, and it made me think differently this season.
Is their passing the offense is good and everyone around
the league knows it, and they give the Bengals the
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lightest boxes in the league. So what are the Bengals
do to get the run game going with that? Is
they make everything still look like a pass and they
run out of it, and they will have screens built
on one side and they'll run the ball the other way,
and it really takes even more defenders out of the box.
And they are there for the first time, really toying
with defenses in terms of instead of letting the defense
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dictate when they're going to run the ball, they're almost
dictating to the defense for the first time. I think
them the Zach Taylor era of Hey, we know we're
going to show this, we know we're going to throw
the ball sixty times a game. That's if you let us.
But if you don't bring that other safety in that box,
we will run the ball and we'll actually get explosive
runs out of it. And it's it's it's been great
and I think it's a good way of keeping the
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game off of Joe burrow shoulders. Now. I know I'm
saying this after the game where he just threw the
ball forty two times in the first half, but they're
going to get in these games. It's going it's December now,
these games are going to be a grosser, right. The
field is not going to be perfect condition, it's going
to be colder. You're gonna have to lean on Chase
Brown AND's magic Peterran, and I think they are in
position to do that if they have to.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
What do you make of the split between Brown and
p Ryan. It feels like a little bit two fifty
to fifty to me. What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah? I agree, maybe this Thursday was because they just
rode Chase Brown so heavily the last few weeks whilst
Madgic p Ran was out. That's kind of how I
you know, justified it in my head. Maybe give Brown
a piece snaps off, but he's been too good to
take off the field right now. Honestly, he's been their
second best offensive weapon. It's it's Jamar Chase and then
to me, it's Chase Brown right now. Tiegans is great,
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but like you know, you look, get the amount of
usage you're putting on a running back. The guy's gonna
touch them all way more than the number two receiver.
He's gonna have fourteen's on page fourteen hundred and nine
yards I believe it is, which would way out pace
the number two receiver. That's just how the game goes.
And he's been really good, six straight games of one
hundred plus yards because I got to look at the
receiving production because it's an extension of the run game
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for the Bengals, especially when it comes to Chase Brown,
and he's got the second most catches on the team.
So I would like to see him on the field more.
I kind of get it, though. They got to give
him a little bit of a break. And I think
Samaja is so reliable usually other than the fumble on
Thanksgiving in past protection, he's so reliable that they would
like to get him out there for at least that
if you can give Chase Brown a mental break from
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pass protection, maybe a physical break in past protection, because
he's fine there. He's got one hundred percent pass block
efficiency over the last six weeks as well, so you
can use these guys interchangeably. But I do agree I'm
looking for like a seventy thirty split rather than more
of a fifty to fifty like we saw on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Last thing before I let you go. Does the Trey
Hendrickson situ seem odd to you?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It does, for sure, and I think it's because we've
been talking about trade for so long. We've heard so
many like you know, the Bengals just being frustrated with
Trey being unhappy every year, wanting a new contract every year.
It's been drama every year for a long time. And
he's a great player, no doubt about it, and he
makes the defense better. I would love to have Trey
Hendrickson back for this stretch run, for this defense, to
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try and take it to another level. But the last
we heard, you know, they went from being a back
issue to a hip area issue, maybe a sports hernia,
which it may take time, and I wonder if there
is frustrated frustration, like, hey, this should take a month
or so to heal, and Trey Hendrickson's looking at it like, listen,
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I'm not committed to for multiple years. You guys gave
me a one year contract again. I don't have guarantee
money pass this year. I have to worry about myself
and free agency in the offseason. I'm going to make
sure I'm healthy when that time comes. I will play
when I'm ready to play. I already tried to come
back early and got hurt and it didn't work out
for me. He can't have that happen again. So if
he's just waiting until he's healthy and he's going to
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take his time, I can't blame the guy because they
haven't committed to him in the long term. But on
the other hand, the Bengals Katie Blackburn's rightly looking at
this like this is exactly why we didn't commit to
Trey andricks in long term. So you know what, I
just as a fan, as someone who enjoys watching the team,
I just want to see him back so it can
help them out. And I hope he's healthy and I
hope he can You're in a high note, so he
can get the money he deserves in the off season.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you've pointed this out on your social media in
the past before, and I do think it's important to
note that that sometimes football can be as simple as
you just want to watch the best players play for
your team. I think sometimes we forget about that as fans.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, that's exactly right, and that's why I always wanted
them to trade for Joe Flacka when it happened. I
wanted them to get a quarterback in here because I
wanted to see t against jamar Chees do their thing.
And I wanted Burrow to return because I like watching
Joe Burrow play, and on the defensive side, I want
to watch Trendrickson play. And if it's the last year
he's in Cincinnati, and what a great five years. It's
been four and a half years. I would like to
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see him one more time before it's over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
No doubt about it. Joe Goodberry Bengals on the Brain,
What are you working on? What do you got coming up?
How can people follow along with everything you're you got
going on?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, tonight at seven o'clock, we got a Bengals on
the Brain presented by First Star Logistics film review of
Joe Burrow's return versus Baltimore. Look for that on the
First Media YouTube channel seven o'clock tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Awesome stuff. Joe, thanks so much. Man, really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Thank you, Austin.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is Joe Goodberry at Joe Goodberry on x Dude
knows this stuff. He watches the film. Uh, he consults
the data as you heard him reference a couple of
different times there. And awesome when we get a chance
to talk to him and have him on the show.
One of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people
to follow on Twitter that I've I think I've been
following him for almost fifteen sixteen years now, which is
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kind of crazy just to go all around. Good dude.
So go check him out if you haven't already. We'll
take a break. Phone lines back open five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen to thirty. Anything you want to talk about. Plus
hear what Richard Patino said after his Xavier Team one
last night, Here what Wes Miller said after his bear
Cat Team one last night, and each coach's final tune
(18:12):
up ahead of the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. All that,
plus Moegar about half an hour from right now. It's
all next. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
From the locker room whispers to stadium roars. He's got
it all Moegar today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Rolling right along Tony Pike since e three sixty ESPN
fifteen thirty, about half an hour or so to go.
You're wondering where Tony is. He'll be on WLW tonight
seven hundred, that is six to nine. He's got sports
talk in for Lance Mo between us from three to
six at Oakley Greens. We'll talk to him twenty minutes
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from right now. College basketball conversation coming up in just
a second. But first let's go the phones five three,
seven nine, fifteen thirty. If you want to call in
and be a part of the show, Let's go to
Mike in Los Angeles right now. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Hey, thanks, Pal, appreciate it. Hey, I really I'm going
to get right into the football thing. But I really
do think that Richard Patino Junior ultimately is going to
be a better coach than West Miller. I just think
the pedigree is there. You look at his dad, He's
been learning from arguably the best college coach head coach
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ever in college basketball to win championships at two different
schools in the same state, by the way, and with
that kind of pedigree and that kind of learning that
he's just been groomed with since he was probably five
or six years old, I just think he is going
to be a superior co is a superior coach to
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West Miller.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I think that's a I think that's a fair take.
I mean, we're still waiting on it for Wes Miller, right, Like,
we've heard a lot and we've we've been total a lot,
but we haven't really seen a lot. And obviously the
expectations are a little bit different with Patino at this
point in the game. But you can tell there is,
you know, legitimate progress being made. Even if the opponents
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maybe are not the best that they're going up against,
you can at least see, okay, this thing's heading in
the right direction With Richard Patino.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. And anybody
that argues that, I don't know what the basis or
the substance of their argument would be. But you know,
I love this good bery guy, Austin. I loved him
He's like the Bengals micro micro management analyst of Greg Cosel,
who does you know everything? You know? How?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, it's a great comparison.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah, this guy is every time you now, especially today,
this guy, I mean, my god, man, he opened my
eyes up about a bunch of stuff. And I appreciate
you having any more because he he really is. You can,
like you just said, you can tell he does his homework.
This guy's no joke.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, And he mentioned does a film break down a
show that he posts on the YouTube page. It's it's
really insightful stuff and makes it easy for people who
maybe don't watch the film or don't know that much
of some of the terminology. Makes it really easy to understand.
So yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, and even for me, I kind of understand it.
But he's still, you know, spends more time on it
than than most of us do. So that's and like
you said, he explains it very well to a layman.
But I don't know if that's the right term. But
I heard an interest. Did you hear Patrick this morning?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I heard a chunk of it, not all of it, though.
What happened?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Do you hear the interview with Steve Young. He loves
Steve Young.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, I didn't hear Steve Young.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And Steve Young is retally a smart guy. You know,
he went on from football and got it. He's a lawyer.
And the guy is just brilliant, brilliant, brilliant mind, and
he's a fun guy. But he was so Dan asked him,
why do you think Stafford's doing so well with other
than this debacle the other day? And he said, I'll
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tell you why, because you look at the guys who
are pure pocket passers, like Breeze, like Peyton, like Brady,
and now the only ones that are left are Rogers
and Stafford. And these guys are playing quarterback of a
higher intellect than the rollout passers. And the guys who
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can run the ball, they can pick a defensive part
much more succinctly than than these guys in the current
day style of quarterback. And I wanted to get your pack.
I thought it was a stute, but I wanted to
get your opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I think that's that's kind of part of like
the the years of of like the spread offense and
the seven on seven style of offense that's come up
through the high school and college ranks, and Tony would
be able to understand maybe explain this better than I could.
But those guys have seen every possible defense and combination
of defense and understand the different ways to beat it.
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Whereas a lot of the days, a lot of times now,
quarterbacks come up through this system and this is what
we're running, and this is how we're gonna do it,
and here's your read and if it's not there, take
off and use your legs and use your athleticism to
go get the first down. There's less going through the
progression and operating the offense and taking advantage of the
defense as much as it's one read and go and
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take off with your feet. At least that's my perception
of it. And the more that you play and the
more that you see those defenses, the more that you understand. Okay,
and like a guy like Stafford or even like Burrow
for an example, it may not have the athletic ability
to do that. So they have to be able to
learn how to process it, have to be able to
learn how to get from one read to the other,
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or when to check it down and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
That's what he was basically saying is these guys are
much more cerebral and and their ability to to just
quickly dissect it. But like you said, they I mean
they didn't. They hadn't seen everything when they were young guys,
but they came up in that environment. And Uh and
Rogers and Stafford are still around, so they're I mean,
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he made a sound like this, and now I know
you got to go. He said, Stafford.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He laughed.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
He said, Stafford is actually laughing at this stuff, and
so simple for him. Yeah, he didn't know what happened.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
The other day.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
He said, it doesn't matter. We all have a bad games.
But anyway, thank you, Austin.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I appreciate you, Mike, thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
Didn't Yeah, I mean I think Stafford too. Just ridiculous
arm talent and just a perfect marriage between UH quarterback
and coach and obviously the weapons Adams Nakua, their run game.
I mean, the Rams are the best team in the
NF as far as I'm concerned, at least right now. Uh,
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time for another Let's go to Hyde Park. Let's talk
to Matt. What's up, Matt, Hey, Awestin, how you doing, man,
I'm good man. What's on your mind. Well, I'm I
was calling in about the buck guys.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I uh, I was gonna see is.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
There anybody Is there anybody in the field, like on
the playoff field that scares you?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Is there one team?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I would say Indiana and Georgia. My friends say I'm
crazy for being scared of Indiana, but I mean, you
don't go twelve and zero on accident, and Signetti wins
everywhere he goes, so that in Georgia just I feel
like has slowly been increasing in slowly getting better over
the course of the season. So I would say.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Them, Yeah, I honestly I agree that there's really aside
from Bama, Georgia and Indiana, I don't I don't know
anybody that actually has got don't anybody can score on us.
I feel I feel great, I feel good.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It really comes to me though, it comes to those two.
Those two quarterbacks Mendoza and Gunner Stockton are experienced. They
operate the offense really well. And when you have quarterbacks
like that, you at least stand the chance against a defense.
It may not be, you know, a huge chance, but
when you have those you know, experienced passers, I think
it means a lot.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, and then I guess the other thing I left
to talk back the other day.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I'm pretty passionate about this.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But with the Notre Dame in Miami, do you have
a do you have an opinion on that?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't honestly, who would you Who would you put in?
Who won head to head Miami?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Right?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, But but who
would you put in?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't know. I honest to god, I've been not
really focused on that at all, but I would I
would probably put Notre Dame in.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
So yeah, I mean, Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
They look they have, they looked so much better.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
But it's like Miami beat them.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
It's true. Whenever they got in, whenever we won the
national title in twenty fourteen, it was because of Baylor
and TCU.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
TCU had this amazing uh you know, I guess resume.
But but Baylor beat him head to head, and that's
and and but but Baylor didn't look great. So they
just said, well, we can't put we can't put Baylor
in ahead of TCU because like they just have it
look great.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
So they just threw high stated in.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and that's what that's what that was like, That's
what got us in. Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean,
I I wouldn't have a problem with either one of them.
I guess I would lean Notre Dame. But I don't
know that I really have a good reason for that
other than I don't trust Miami and I don't trust
Carson Beck. But yeah, I mean, this is this is
what I love about college football is that we get
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to have this debate every single year. No matter what,
there's always this situation scenario.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
It is.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
It's gonna be like there's gonna be probably three, four
or five teams that all pretty much have the same argument.
They're all good, They're all gonna look pretty close.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, Balin or aka Matt.
Thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, sir, have it going on.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You too, man. That is Ballin ain't easy, as he's
affectionately known to so many. While we were having that conversation,
the Bengals made a roster move. The Bengals today signed
cornerback Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. He is a
six foot one hundred and ninety pound rookie out of
Penn State. He was a college free agent signee of
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the Titans in May, was waived by the Titans on
final cuts and spent the four games earlier this season
four games earlier this season on Buffalo's practice squad. He
was released from the Bills on October fourteenth, so earlier today.
The Bengals signed Jalen Davis to the active roster and
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now they've signed Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. That
is the latest when it comes to the Bengals. We'll
take a break, We'll come back. College basketball Crosstown Shootout
coming up this weekend. Hear what both coaches had to
say after wins last night on ESPN fifteen to thirty.
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Welcome back Tony Pike sincey three to sixty On ESPN
fifteen thirty on Austin Elmore talked about the fact that
college basketball the world centers around Cincinnati on Friday with
the Crosstown or the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. Well, last
night both teams victorious Xavier and Cincinnati and their final
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tune ups ahead of the shootout. Cincinnati won seventy eight
to fifty six over Tarleton State. Xavier won ninety six
seventy four over Saint Francis. Here is Xavier head coach
Richard Patino following his team's win. Well, certainly did.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Some good things, did some bad things as well. We're
up twenty seven with five point thirty to go, and
you know, let them cut that lead to twenty two.
That was frustrating, but second half was certainly good. We
continue to not to turn the ball over, which has
been terrific. You know, twenty three assists, eight turnovers, really good.
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Roddy provided a phenomenal spark off the bench, so it
was a great win. You know, we got to learn
some things, get a little bit tougher on the ball defensively,
but we're doing some good things and now we certainly
got to get back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Richard Patino in that victorious press conference last night, he
was pretty reserved, just thirty seconds or so of an
opening statement. Not quite as reserved was Wes Miller following
his team's win over Tarleton State. Here's the Bearcats head coach.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
First off, We've been really trying to work on some
things offensively the last couple of days, and I could
see some of those things take in shape. I thought
we did a good job with our movement. You could
see the movement early. I thought we got the ball
to the inside with the dribble and with the pass early.
And I thought we generated really good shots early in
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the first half. We didn't sustain it, but you could
see some of the stuff that we were doing in
the last couple of days of practice taking shape offensively.
I thought that the turnovers were careless. Now, Bob I
had seven of them in the first half.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And you know, he hadn't.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Played basketball for eight days or whatever the heck it's been,
so you know, I know I said this on the radio,
but I'll say it now. I mean, he ain't one
hundred percent and he got hit. He got hit, in
my opinion, not a real good play that he got
hit on in the Louisville game. That took him out,
and he ain't one hundred percent, and he sucked it
(31:42):
up and played, And that, to me is more important
than seven turnovers. That, to me, is what Cincinnati basketball's about.
Everybody told him to sit out for another week or so.
He didn't want to sit out. He wanted to play.
Nobody made him play, nobody told him to play. He said,
I will play with my teammates and help Cincinnati. So yeah,
he had seven turnovers, but I'll take the guy that
wants to fight through it when they're not one hundred
(32:03):
percent all day, every day. So I was pleased with that.
But the turnovers not just his, but we're careless. Three
times we're jumping out of bounds or falling out of
bounds throwing the ball to the other team. We made
nice defensive plays. That was frustrating, so we got some
things we got to clean up again. In the second half,
I thought we did a better job of getting the
ball inside in the post, and I don't like moves
(32:25):
line in a game like that where he has such
a size advantage, we have to take advantage of that more.
And he had a couple of silly fouls and some
things not go his way. But I did think we
got it inside there. I liked that we run the
rebounding war again. The turnovers were frustrated, and some of
the defensive airs were frustrating, but there was some really
good defensive possessions too.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That is you see head coach Wes Miller after the
win over Tarleton State, the Crosstown Shootout, the Skyline Chile
Crosstown Shootout, is Friday at seven point thirty pm. You
will be able to hear it right tier on all
of our networks in iHeartMedia Cincinnati, both the Xavier broadcast
and the Cincinnati broadcast. Good Night of College Basketball coming
(33:10):
up tonight mentioned earlier. Number eighteen Kentucky hosting number sixteen
North Carolina in the acc SEC Men's Challenge, a game
being played obviously at Rupp Arena. You'll hear it right
here on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Wildcats six and a
half point favorites in that game over North Carolina. Before
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them in the acc SEC Men's Challenge is number four
Duke hosting number fifteen Florida at Cameron Indoors Stadium. That's
a seven thirty pm tip off and Duke favored by
eight and a half in that game. There's also a
top twenty five matchup between Yukon and Kansas Number five
Yukon at number twenty one Kansas Connecticut one and a
(33:53):
half point favorites on the road at Allen field Hall
at Fieldhouse. The number one team in the country, per
Due is in act. They are at Rutgers number twenty four.
Usc is at Oregon number thirteen Tennessee at Syracuse, Iowa
is at number seven. Michigan State as well. Those are
your top twenty five matchups in college basketball tonight. NKU
(34:16):
back in action tomorrow night in the beginning of Horizon
League play for the Norse KU, by the way, first
place in the Horizon League right now. They get started
tomorrow night at Truest Arena with Cleveland State coming to town.
NKU six and two on the season, tied for first
in the Horizon League with Cleveland State coming to town
(34:40):
tomorrow seven pm in Highland Heights. So if you're not
watching that, you know what else comes back on tonight
for the first time in a long time. It's been
way too long as far as I'm concerned. Let's see
if I have the music here ready to go. That's right.
Hard Knocks in season comes back on tonight as well.
(35:04):
You remember this was a big deal last year when
the Bengals were on it. It was the AFC North.
This year it's the NFC East. He might be thinking,
oh gosh, the Eagles and Cowboys. I don't know that
there's been a division in football with more drama or
more compelling storylines than the NFC East. Obviously, think about
(35:26):
the Giants. You got Jackson Dart and Camp Scataboo and
Russell Wilson and Brian da Ball gets fired and he's
going into the blue medical tent. You've got the Eagles
and their nonsense with their offense and Kevin Petulo's house,
their offensive coordinator was just egged the other night by
Eagles fans. The aj brown saga going on. You've got
Washington who had these major high expectations but haven't been
(35:47):
able to get off the ground. Jaden Daniels playing in
a game when he shouldn't have and got injured, Terry
mclaurin's injury all season long. They're also trying to get
a stadium built in DC. And then the Cowboys are
a soap opera every day. They obviously have the tragedy
of Marshawn Neeland passing away earlier this year, the trade
deadline and going after Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson and
(36:10):
all the different stuff that happened. I'm very excited to
check out Hard Knocks tonight in the NFC easton for
that season as well. We'll take a break, we'll come
back when we do, we'll talk to Moegar. He's at
Oakley Greens. This is ESPN fifteen.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Thirty WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I heard radio from the Brown Heating Temp Star Weather Center.
Here's your forecast. This report is sponsored by Mel's Auto Glass.
Mel's Auto Glasses they wear.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
It's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Fifteenth There looking for more. Yes, indeed, it is time
for quick hits. And this is typically when we are
joined by our friend Moegar. Mo, of course, on Tuesdays,
does his show live from Oakley Greens. And I'm not mistaken.
I believe we have Mo. Now, Moe are you there?
Moe not quite ready to go? That's all right? And uh,
(37:09):
Moe's show coming up this afternoon. I'm starting to see
levels now. I don't know if Mo's there. Moe are
you there now?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
I am very much here?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Hi man, how are you?
Speaker 8 (37:21):
I'm good man? How about yourself?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm wonderful the beauties of live radio when you produce
your own show. Uh, you got a show coming up
this afternoon? What's going to be on it?
Speaker 8 (37:29):
We're at Oakley Greens. Yes, we're at Oakley Greens. It's exciting.
It's warm in here. By the way, come to Oakley
Greens because the roads are fine. The roads are some
of the drivers aren't. The roads completely and totally fine.
So we're here at Oakley Greens. Paul Danner Junior is
gonna join us. I like that the Bengals. The Bengals
(37:50):
are back. I'm hearing some are saying the Bengals are back.
Paul has a couple of good pieces that we're going
to talk about. We wrote about Joe Burrow in the
aftermath of the game on Thursday night. He also wrote
about the continued weirdness of the Trey Hendrickson situation, which
we're gonna spend some time on. There's lots of different
Bengals issues to discuss with our guy, Paul Danner Junior.
(38:10):
Sean sayed Stats and Scheme Newsletter. Our guy who kind
of dives into x's and o's with us, is going
to talk about the improved Bengals defense. We'll get to
the Bills as well, since the Bengals play them. Jeff
Pokoro will be on the show. Kentucky has a new
football coach. Pick is going to join us to talk
about him. I got a few things We're gonna do
an early take on the skyline Chile Crosstown shootout. We
(38:32):
have multiple UC football truths, and I am looking for
the non financial reason why the Red should not sign
Kyle Schwarber. And I will compare Kyle Schwarber to a
ticket I bought to a game not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
My biggest You were talking about drivers in the roads
and everything. Do you think Cincinnati has good drivers? I
think drivers are the same everywhere. I disagree with that.
I think Cincinna has excellent drivers. I'm a good driver,
Yeah you know. I mean I was in Columbus the
other weekend. It was miserable, awful.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Really Yeah, see, you drive enough, you find bad drivers.
But like, this is what annoys me. We get a
moderate amount of snow, right Usually it's like we get
like two big snow days and that's it. I don't
know if today qualifies, but every time you do, you're
gonna hear from somebody who's like from upstate New York like, yeah,
you folks don't know how to drive in the snow.
And invariably I'll go to like Syracuse dot com and
(39:28):
they will be on the front page twenty five car
pile up. Yeah, well, clearly you guys in the snow
don't know how to drive either, So I think that's
one of the most overrated tropes. People here don't know
how to drive in the snow. Now, if we were
in Biloxi, Mississippi, and suddenly it snowed right in this
place where they never get snow, I'm guessing people would
have no idea what they're doing behind the wheel. I
think as a general rule, we have good drivers. I
(39:50):
will tell you this though, that in this era of
like everybody shooting each other, the one thing that I
hate that has gone away is like a real good
give someone the bird on the interstate who drives poorly.
There used to be a great amount of satisfaction that
one would get when someone committed a highway faux pas,
(40:12):
and you would just let him know how you felt
by just sticking on the gun, sticking on the bird. Right,
I've been on the receiver. Now you don't know right
now you have you have no idea. You throw someone
the bird, they may pull out a clock. That is
among the many things I don't like about this era
where our national pastime is shooting everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You're not you can't really throw someone you like.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Double barrel.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You can't do it anymore. And I got scared. I
was like, I probably shouldn't have done that, even though
I laid on the horn. But yeah, no, it's you're
exactly right. Well, can I tell you something that happened
to me at this station? So this was just over
the weekend. Is it the Kroger on Harrison? Sure?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Because I use my Kroger points to get cheaper, cheaper
gas smart And I'm filling my tank and as I do,
I'm cleaning some stuff out of my car. This woman
pulls up. The first thing that happens is she nearly
hits me more my sort of negligence than hers. She
pulls up at the pump right in front of me,
and I just noticed, like she never gets out of
(41:15):
the car, Like she pulls up to the pump and
never gets out of the car. Now, I remember what
it was like back in the day. My dad would
drive you pull up, guy would walk to the window.
Can I fill your tank? Can I clean your windshield?
That sort of We don't do that anymore. This woman
just pulls up and So I was kind of finishing
up my gas all that sort of stuff, and I'd
(41:37):
like pull up like next to her to pull out
of the gas station, and I see she has her
window rolled down in an obvious attempt to communicate with somebody.
And I thought, because she nearly hit me, she wanted
to say something to me. So I rolled down my
passenger window and I go, hey, everything all right, and
she's like, yes, I was hoping there would be a
gentleman here who would pump my.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Gas for me, did you.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
Yes, nice woman, We're not talking about a ninety two
year old lady.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Right.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Woman was probably a little bit older than me. I
really appreciated that. Right. She thought chivalry was not dead.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, she and you proved it.
Speaker 8 (42:13):
It was clinging to this like age when like men
probably did that for women. And I'm like, yeah, man,
I'll do that for you, No problem. Got out pumped
the gas. Kind of thought she tipped me or something
that didn't happen. That happened on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Okay, Well, you've got some good karma out there that
hopefully will come back your way. Thanks, no problem. Moegger
is next for the Moegger Radio Show at Oakley Greens.
Thanks Mo. He's a I love what he tells a story,
and I have no idea where it's going. It's my
absolute favorite. Tony is back tomorrow high noon for Tony
(42:51):
Pikes since e three sixty. Thanks so much for listening.
Moegger is next on the Home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's
ESPN fifteen thirty
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