Joey Lenderman Enchanted Gardens Interview

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning on a lovely Sunday morning. Glad to have
you with us this morning. As always, I am looking
forward this afternoon to having some time to putter around
the yard and do a few things. I hope you
are too. This is still great planting season and we're
going to talk about that a little bit. I'm about
to invite our guest for the hour, Joey Linderman, here

(00:22):
onto garden Line. Joey is the owner of Enchanted Gardens,
which is on the Katie Fullshire side of Richmond up
on FM three point fifty nine, and let's just go
out there. Hey, Joey, are you there, Good morning ship.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
How you doing.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Hey, thanks for taking
time to come on the show. I appreciate that this morning,
of course, thanks for having me. All right, well, I
wanted to get you on here to pick your brain
and talk about some things. And Folks, if you're listening
and you have a question that relates to maybe a
plant we're talking about, or if you wanted to, you know,

(00:57):
ask Joey something about plants or whatever, you're certainly welcome
to call in. Otherwise we're going to hold the rest
of the calls until we get back to nine o'clock
and then I'll go back to answering gardening questions in general.
So let's do it that way, Joey. I tell you,
every time I drive up to Jenny Gardens and get
out of the car and I look up and it's
just like from horizon to horizon, just it looks good.

(01:21):
It's full of plants, it's full of color. And my
first thought is always how on earth do you'll keep
this place stocked up and looking this good? And I
know that I live that all times. He's a challenge.
It's a challenge to you know, because you call somebody
that used to have plants and now yeah, we run out,
and you know, how on earth to just give us

(01:42):
a little peak behind being a garden center owner? Who's
that life like?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Uh, it's a lot of hard work, you know, not
only for me, but for all of our our great employees.
We've got lots of good folks here, and it's just
you know, everybody cares a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's where that's the main, main thing that makes us
the success.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
We want to look great all the time, whether it's
the middle of the winter, and you know, we just
had a hard freeze or the heat of the summer,
and you know, everybody's struggling to stay hydrated. We want
to look the best of cans year round.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
M Well, you guys do a great job, and you
do have a great team up there, you know, the
folks that greet you and are so friendly and helpful
and uh, and it's just fun. It's just a fun place,
a fun place to go, and it always looks good seasonally,
you know, every time I get a chance to be
there and wander around.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're right, it's fun for us too. You know. It's
it's a lot of work, but we do have fun
up here. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Joking goes on my term as there's always time for
a joke. Even if there's not there's still time. So
we have lots of fun up here, and I think
that's part of it all.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So that's that is good. That is good. Well, you
guys do a great job of it, you really do.
So I wanted to talk about some of you know,
we're hitting the summer season and this is where and
it's just a natural part of gardening. But people kind
of get a little less enthusiastic about plants because it's

(03:17):
hot outside and things. And I've been talking a lot
lately about that you can plant a plant any time
of the year, and even though it's getting hot, you
can still get a plant in the ground and do
it successfully. It's easier to do in the fall and spring,
of course. But you think about a plant that's sitting
in chanted gardens right now, and if someone were to
buy it and bring it home and plant it, versus

(03:39):
leaving it and enchanted gardens and planting it in the fall,
which is a good planting season. What's the difference. Why
would a plant die in your yard, but it's not
dying at the garden center. And it's because at the
garden center, you guys are watering them every day. You're
keeping them perky and going. So plants can survive just fine.
So when you bring them home, just shift the mindset
and think about, you know what, that root system. It's

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almost as if I planted the pot and the roots
are still all confined there water in there in the ground.
After you plant, it is like treating them like they're
sitting at the nursery still and gradually getting a wetter
area you know, further out and getting them established. So
with just a little attentive TLC you can you can
just keep going and planting. And a lot of times

(04:24):
I think people forget that. So anyway, I don't know
if you have any comments about that, but I know
we deal with that issue with customers in the summer.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And you know, I would not recommend taking a plane
home and wait until the fall to plant it. You know,
we are watering plants every day, so we know how
much each one takes, and you know how often sometimes
you know, in the heat of the summer, these plants
need to be watered twice a day.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
But the way I look.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
At it is if they can survive in this hot,
black plastic pot during the summer, they can survive in
your yard in the ground and actually better, often easier,
even better.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, that's right, even though you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You don't have the hot sun beating down on that
plastic pot. Yeah, you don't have the wind blowing through
the root systems drying it out.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So you know, they're they're able to get atablished this
time year.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, and day by day those roots are moving further
and further out into the soil all around them. So
that's a good thing. Well, let's let's talk about some
plants that do really well in the summer. And I
kind of I kind of want to ask this in
two ways, and we'll probably have to go to a
break and during your answer here. But one way is

(05:31):
what are some of the most popular summer plants that
you guys see and have? And then I want to
come back and follow up with a question about your
favorites and talking about that. So why don't we start
about start with what are the things that are popular
for summertime that you would recommend as a summer plant
for color.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, as far as annuals grow go, I would say
this time of year, binco or also known as periwinkle,
those are tapas nails. They're super heat tolerant, bloom NonStop
even during the hottest days.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Those are great. Pentos are great. Zenias.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
As far as the perennials, always lantana and salvias, those
are great. There's lots of real pretty ornamental grasses this
time of year that if you get planted now, they'll
have the really pretty plumes that.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Come out in the fall. So that h that takes a.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Little bit of planning to go ahead and get those
in the ground and get them established before they're real
time to shine in the fall.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
That's a that's a good point. And you know, ornamental
grasses I think are underutilized in our landscape. We have
a lot of really good ones. And when you get
a nice ornamental grass, it's got the seed heads in
the fall even going into winter. If you just kind
of wait to cut it back until later in the winter,
you get the frost on those seed heads, you get
the sunlight coming through in that tawny color. Is is

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something different out there in the landscape too, and I
just think we ought to be planting more of those.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
If you're looking at something for something for some shade
or part shade, we've got lots of pretty curtuma gingers
and lots of different colors. So those are a kind
of a unique one. Limelight hydranges they're about to put
on a show this time of years. The pinacle type
hydrangea that gets you know, up the five or six

(07:20):
feet tall, what's kind of a creamy white womb. Those
are great and those can actually take quite a bit
of sun compared to most high ranges.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So that's a kind of a unique option.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
The Limelight. Okay, and I think you guys send out
the newsletter which is very very helpful, by the way,
and people can subscribe to that. And you featured this
tat last time. I saw the kurcumas in there and
a little ginger I love called Dancing Lady, and then
you also had the Limelight hydranges in it. And so

(07:52):
how can people get that newsletter? What's what would you
tell them to do because they need to subscribe.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
You can go to our website. It's Enchanted Gardens Richmond
dot com and there's a little tab on there somewhere
to sign up for our newsletter. And yeah, you're right,
there's lots of good information in there, you know, seasonally
seasonally appropriate to you know, give you different tips or
what's what's new. Also on our Instagram and Facebook pages,

(08:20):
always lots of good information on there as well.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, those are great. Well, I got to go to
a break here, Joey. We'll come right back all right
here in just a moment, folks. If you do have
a question about some of these plans, just like, well,
what's that limelight hydrand or he was talking about what's
a curcuma? Give us a call. We'll talk about those things. Otherwise,
we're just going to keep going because I got a
lot of questions to pick his brain about. We'll be
right back, folks. We're visiting this hour with Joey Linderman

(08:46):
from Enchanted Gardens, which is in the Richmond Rosenberger. If
you're in Richmond Rosenberg you go north toward Katie out
on FM three fifty nine, you're going to find Enchanted Gardens.
Those of you who haven't been there, and I don't
care where you live in the Greater Houston area, it
is worth a trip out there. Grab the family and
friends and things, put the kids in the car, head

(09:07):
out there, and you got to see this place. It
is a really cool showplace. I promise you you're going
to enjoy it. Joey, let me see if we can
get it. Would help if I actually turn on your mic.
There there we go. Hey, Joey, are you there? Yep,
I'm here, okay. So I'd like you to talk a

(09:28):
little bit about some of the educational programs that you
have from time to time. I know we mentioned, you know,
get on the newsletter. That's where you find out about stuff.
It's also on your website, but tell us a little
about that, along with the food truck thing that's going on,
and even the kind of the farmer's market type additions
that you put in there. I think people need to
know about that.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah. So as far as the educational programs, we have
those during our slower time of year, which is kind
of different from most garden centers because it's so busy
in the spring that you know, we just we would
be we don't have enough parking for shoppers and all
the people that come to these educational things. You know,

(10:09):
there's you know, one hundred and fifty to two hundred
people that come to each of these seminars, so that's
a that's a whole lot of cars in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
So we do those.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
So we just wrapped up our last one for the
summer yesterday. It's just getting so hot. But we do
them in June and then I think we start them
again in September and October, and then we do them
in January through around mid February, depending on the you know,
how the calendar works out. But we do vegetable gardening,
fruit trees, arranging a custom succulent container, lots of different things, discovers,

(10:47):
you know, pretty much everybody's interests.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
But like I said, those can.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Be filmed on our website or we'll announce those on
all of our social media platforms as well.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I was out there the end of winter this
year and that was a great It was a rainy day,
but it was a good day. Enthusiastic folks, and that's
always that's always fun. Uh. So you mentioned the containers,
and uh, one of the things that it just I
just am so impressed with when I'm walking around out there,

(11:19):
or the containers that you guys put together and the
options for containers that you have. I know, Maria, I
don't know where you found that lady, but she is
a magician when it comes to putting together gorgeous things.
And whether someone comes out to buy one you guys
already have, or would that they come out to a
class to put something. You mentioned succulent container being one example. Uh,

(11:40):
it's just a it's a great way to go and
your you know, your folks can help people if they
don't know how to put plants together. You know, here's
a container, and here's some plants that we go, well,
it's gonna be in sun or shade or whatever. But
you guys do such a great job of that and
and things that I just go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Murray is like said, she's an artist. I couldn't even
do it. I've been doing this for however long, the
over thirty years, and boy, I can't put anything together
near like she does.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So yes, she does a great ye Joey.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I talk sometimes about landscape design, and a lot of us,
including my listeners, are plant people. We're not designers. So
when you turn a plant person loose with plants to design,
it looks like a bomb went off in a garden
center and everything rooted where it landed. Yes, roscape design.
I know I want that plant. Where am I going

(12:36):
to put it? I have no idea, but I'll find
a place. But Maria does such a good job. I
love the iron. Tell us a little bit about the iron,
both the hanging baskets and the freestanding iron containers and
how that works. I think that is just so cool.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So those iron baskets or iron paint scenes, we get those,
and we we have a special type of burlap that's
treated to where it holds up to the weather better.
We found that to work better than you know, like
the cocoa moths or cocoa fiber liners. Because there's so
many different shapes and sizes of these iron baskets that

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we get that they don't make one of the cocoa
liners for each of those, so that's something. If you've
got an odd ball shape or size, we do sell
them burlac liner alone, but that's what we use for
those iron baskets and it works out great for us.
So the water drains through we you know, it's stick

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enough to where the wind doesn't blow through and dry
out the soil and the roots. So we've been using
that for a number of years and it's worked out great.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think we need to have more containers, and I
know when it gets to summertime and you have to
water them, that's a challenge. I put some drip irrigation
at my place where it just comes on and it
waters all my containers, because otherwise I'd spend all my
day run around water and everything, and that's real nice.
But one of my favorites of the iron container basket
that hangs in the backyard and it's got a big

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giant macho fern in it, and it just looks so good.
And I think about that and containers in general. You know,
you picture a patio that's kind of beare, maybe it
does a plant or two on it, and then you
picture a patio with really attractive containers and plants suited
for the container and suited for the spot. And I've
got a patio that at one end is very sunny,

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uh and you know that there's plants for that, and
then one where you get kind of morning sun, and
then one where it's kind of shady all day. Of course,
the macho ferns and shady all day bright shade. But
the difference in walking outside and seeing that is just
it's it's amazing how much difference.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
So could Yeah, playing concrete patio can be just, you know,
kind of stark, but uh, yeah, you had some colorfold
blazed pots and some beautiful all are spilling out of them.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It makes it a whole different area.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
You guys have an outstanding selection of pottery out there too.
The i don't know what you call it, the shed
or whatever, where you have most of the pottery kind
of stored back up in there that this is gorgeous stuff.
I mean, these things are.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, we fell an aating amount of pots. I don't know,
I don't know where everybody's putting all these pots, but
boy there yeah, eating them.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Up, I tell you.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, Well that's good. That's good.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
And it's so it's so pretty and it just adds
I don't know, it just adds a lot to the landscape.
Now you we're talking about Maria and the containers and
building and all these things.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
You guys also, uh, the selection you have of good
Texas tough perennials is pretty amazing. Now, Salva is my
favorite genus of plants. It just you know, it's kind
of like picking your favorite kid. Uh, it's hard to
do that, right, But but so are just so versatile,
so many options. Would you talk about a little bit
some of maybe the salvia as you like, or some

(16:08):
you know, for different areas, or any anything about salvia
or related perennials that are a good Texas toft that
you guys carry.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, we grow tons of salvias. That's probably one of
the items that we grow the most varieties of We
grow I would say over ninety percent of our own
annuals and perennials. We have eleven acres right down the
road from our retail location with just a ton of
greenhouses on it, and so yeah, we're able to grow

(16:38):
what we want and have it ready you know, when
our customers want it. So that's a that's one of
the reasons why we never run out of things because
we have our own We are the grower also, so
if we run out of something down on Saturday morning,
we have it back and stop generally by Saturday evenings.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
So that that's been real health for us.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Otherwise, question fire yourself if you're your own grower.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But yeah, there's so many different types of salvia is nowadays.
Amistade salvia is one of my favorites. That's kind of
a medium grower that will get four feet tall or so,
but really pretty purple blooms. Of course, all the autumn
sage or salvia gray guye uh, all different colors red, pink, white, purple, raspberry,

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those are great autumn sage. The Salvia Latanta that's a
beautiful one also kind of a light lavender purple. But
there's always you know, new things coming out and also
older varieties that aren't really commonly grown nowadays. But uh,
you know, if we can get our hands on them
and get them into our production, we have those, you know,

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things like the Augusta Dulberg salvia, kind of a white,
free flowing salvia.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's a really good one.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, that is a good one. And Henry is a
good one too.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
You mentioned a'mostat. I think is that Salvio. I believe
that's Salvio Garnettica called a niche sage.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, I believe it is one of the guys.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Is it across? There's there's so many crosses now there
there the breeders are crossing salvia so much that's kind
of hard to tell what what all they are. But
boy do we have good ones. I think one of
my favorite salvia is is a Mystic spires. Uh. And
it's just because it's just a workhorse and it doesn't
flop around like its predecessors did so much. It has

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beautiful blue spikes.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know, I've got mine. I've got one in a
moderate amount of shade and it's doing okay. Of course
they like son but that that is one of my
favorite ones.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
But I love Yeah, that is really really versatile. Doesn't
get too big, not too small. It's really cold tall.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
We've had one in one of the beds up here
and it's come back after the last five you know,
hard winners, so it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, that's a good one. Hummingbirds bees love them, especially
those save garnitic as we were talking about. I've got
some of those. They put up with more with less
sun than I would have expected. You don't want to
put them in shade, but full shade, but they do
pretty well, and the hunting birds just go crazy. I've
got one around the side of my garage. Every time

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I walk around, a hummingbird flies out of it because
they've been there getting some honey or nectar.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, you got to be.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's careful walking around the Salvia area up here. At
certain times of the year you'll get a kama cozzie
hummingbird coming at you.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
There you go, there you go. Well, listen, I'm up
against a very hard break here for the half hour.
Can you stick with us? Come back on the.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, sir, thank you. We're gonna take a little break, folks.
And if you do have a question that you would
like to ask some of these plants we're talking about,
or any kind of thing like that you'd like to
ask while I got Joey here. Uh seven one three
two one two five eight seven four seven one three
two one two fifty eight seventy four. Stick around. We'll
be right back. We're visiting with Joey Linderman from Chendi

(20:14):
Gardens Garden Center, which is on the north of the
Rosenberg area up toward Katie direction. It's up on Highway
three point fifty nine. And uh, we're just kind of
paying his brain on a lot of things about plants
and stuff. So Joey want to bring you back in
here and kind of continue the discussion that we're having.
I would like to hear if you have any plants

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that over the last few years or stuff, have kind
of risen to the forefront with you, if you kind
of learned a lot about him or found out that
they perform really well. It doesn't have to be brand new,
but new or new to you. How about that? Any
any suggestions that you think people ought to take a
look at.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Something that's become really popular over the last several years,
which of course is not new because it's been around forever,
but all the different varieties of native milkweed for the
monarch butterflies, that's become real popular. You know a lot
of people are getting away from the tropical milkweed and
you know, getting back to what Mother Nature minut it

(21:15):
to be and you know, just the monarchs feeding off
of the natives that actually grow in any given area.
So that's a really popular one.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, that that is a good one. And that, boy,
is that ever popular. Are you guys growing your own
on those at your production facility?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
We do, yeah, yeah, this time of year, you know,
we're a little bit of a low point on those
that we do have several varieties this time of year.
You know, we do the the milkweed movement where we
any milk weed that we sell, we donate all of
the proceeds, not just part of it, all of it
to local nonprofits in our area, you know, specifically one

(22:00):
that support people and family with special needs. Okay, so
that's why we we carry milk weed, the appropriate milk
weed pretty much year round to you know, support that
that program.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
That's a great that's a great cause. I appreciate youall
doing that. Uh yeah, And milk weeds are are very popular.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
The used to be a movie, a baseball movie. I
can't remember what the name of it was now, but
the phrase in it was, if you build it, they
will come in. Other words, if you build the ballpark,
people will show up out here in the countryside to
go to baseball. Truly scapes, pardon field dream? Was that
Kevin Costner? I think that was Kevin Costner, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, you can give out of me out of that movie.
I'm not sure. Okay, good enough. It was just a
reference anyway. So my point is that the same is
true in our landscapes.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Uh. You know, we like we want to bring birds in,
and certainly bird feeders and houses and all the things
we can do. That's all good. But you can plan
a landscape also that brings birds in. And you know,
if you're a hummingbird and you're flying from north to
somewhere south across the Gulf of Mexico needing to fuel up,
would you rather stop at a place with one plant

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that you could get a little nectar out of, or
would you like a yard you can fly all over
the place getting good stuff to fuel you up. And
I think as we build landscapes like that, whether it's
birds or butterflies or benefit other beneficial insects and things,
if you build it, they will come.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
That's a fact. Just another one that, yep.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Another one that's relatively new that I really like is
the Anino desert rookid. It's in the family of the
or the desert willows in general, but they have a
larger leaf, larger bloom, and don't get as big. They'll
get maybe ten or twelve feet tall, but that one

(24:01):
will have to kind of lavender pink blooms throughout most
of the summer. But that's a really good one. You
can trim into a small, multi trunk tree. And there used.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
To be a plant we call chatalpa that was a
cross between desert willow and katalpa. Is that what we're
talking about here?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, that's well, this is an improved one that blooms
more and doesn't.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Get as big.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Okay, and tell us the name the specific name of
that again, the.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Variety el nino, desert orchid.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay desert okay, good, Yeah, those are beautiful, uh they
you know those are those plants are related. Everybody's familiar
with yellow bells. You know the yellow bells everywhere, Uh,
gold Star, those kinds of things. Uh, they have that
same kind of balloom shape and everything. That's a great plant.
I'm glad you brought that one up. I like that one.

(24:58):
Any other any other favorit or plants that you would
suggest people give a shot?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Uh, you know, lots of pretty things out here this
time of year. Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
There's the bell of India jasmine, which is a fragrant
bush type jasmine that will make a sprawling bush. It's
got a double bloom, not quite like the green Duke jasmine,
but this one is way more vigorous than the green
Duke jasmine. You know, blooms spring through fall, grows a
whole lot faster. So that's that's certainly a good one.

(25:29):
I think, very great grant to get me one of those.
I love fragrant plants.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I've got an area to the south of where we
sit outside on the patio, and typically in the summertime,
you got a little bit of a predominant southwest ty
breeze blowing through, and so I try to locate my
fragrance over there so I can sit there and enjoy
that stuff blowing through. That's a good idea. I like
that one. Uh. You you mentioned earlier vincas the Madagascar

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piwinkles on the name for him. Uh, any particular favorites.
I know it used to be we had a lot
of problems with the aerial if I topped or a
blight hitting them, and then we had the Nirvana and
the Korra series. It seems like I don't see much
Nirvana around, but I see a lot of Coras out there.
We have the trailing forms of it and any other
There's some other miniature types, and could you talk about

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that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, the miniature types are the sore vinka in particular
the Kwai series, but tiny blooms, but tons of them. U.
You know, the blooms are maybe half the size of
a railer Vinka bloom, but lots and lots of blooms.
I don't know that those are as resistant to all

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the diseases that the Vinka used to get, but we
hadn't had any problems with them, even with you know,
all the dead gum ring we got uh earlier in
the in the summer, so we hadn't had, you know,
much problems with those at all. But that's a great
one for containers especially they don't get as big. They
only will get maybe eight or ten inches tall, but

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very pretty cute little ballooms.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
But going going back to the cora of incas, going
back to the core of incas, the core xdr. When
those first came out, I can't remember how long ago,
it was maybe eight years ago. I didn't really believe it.
So I took a flat of the cora of inca
and put them in a tub of water, you know,
three quarters of the way up the pot, and let

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them sit there for a week and they were fine.
So that that really impressed me.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, that is impressive. Well, you were talking about the
the little miniature vincas. I think it's one reason we're
probably not going to have a disease problem with them
is because you know, and when we used to put
vinca what we still do in the flower beds, then
you get the disease in that bed and then future
venca plantings are having to deal with it. Well in
a container, you're you're talking about potting saw you in

(27:59):
put the fright punning soil lands start over and not
have to worry about that build up. But gosh, those
things are so nice and because they're small, it helps
you put a lot more things in a pot. And
whenever I can, I like to do mixed planters. You know,
we were talking about the things Maria creates and stuff there.
Those mixed planners are just so interesting and with a

(28:20):
kind of a smaller stature plant like that, you can
fill a lot more in and have a more beautiful
planner as a result of that. Joey out, I'm just
looking at my clock. I've got to take I got
to take one more break here. We'll come back to
you and I just be thinking about any other things,
the plants we may have skipped over that you might

(28:41):
want to add, and folks will be right back with
Joey in just a moment. From Enchanted Gardens just north
of Riche of Rosenberg, Katie Foolisher's side out on FM
three fifty nine. If you haven't been there, we'll crawl
out from under the rock you've been under, because I
don't know how you missed it, but you got to
get out there and check this place out. It's a
great independent garden center. Good advice. You has the advantage

(29:02):
of our garden centers. We got people that garden here,
that live here, that know what they're doing, that are
trained versus Yeah, I'm not so sure. I was selling
hammers last week and now I'm supposed to be selling plants,
so I'll make up some answer. Sorry, that was cruel,
but it is true. It is absolutely true. Uh, Joey. Uh,
I'm gonna not have to. I'm not not associate you

(29:24):
with asking questions about that that kind of thing, but
it does annoy me at least. Welcome back to Guarden Line.
Good to have you with us. So we're going to
continue to kind of pick your brain on some things.
You know, we used to have plants, Joey, that were
really relegated to let's say the shade plants like Colis
and impatience, but now it's and and oh gosh, what's

(29:48):
the just kalladiums almost one blank?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now we have kalladiums that can take full sun. We
have we have colis that can takeful son, We have
impatience and you don't talk.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
What about the sun patients. I think that may be
one of your favorite plants that we have.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
It is, Yeah, so sun patients are a type of
new guinea and patients that can handle a little bit
more sun. I've been planting them at my house for
the last couple of years, and I think that's what
I'm gonna stick with. Big blooms, bloom all NonStop, all
through the summer.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
They're great.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
You know, mine are just in morning sun till maybe
one o'clock or so, but they can take full sun
as long as you keep up with the watering. I'm
looking at some that are in our our custom pops
out here right now, and you know, they're beautiful and
full blooms. You know, they come in all different colors.
We've got red and white, lavender, and pink, some even

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some variegated, some patients with really pretty variegated foliage and
pink blooms.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
But those are those are really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah. And then the colors are there, I don't know
the term for them. They're they're bright, they're they're there,
they're hot colors. I mean, they're not just like a
dull yellow. It's a it's a bright yellow. It's not
just a dull.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ready perfect perfect color.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
They yeah, yeah, it's gorgeous. I love those plants. That's
a good one. Sun patients for sure. Uh so when
we're when we're looking at you know, success uh with
having some summer color. Can we can you talk a
little and we've kind of covered this in some ways,
but any you know a top few plants that if

(31:36):
someone comes in and go, look, I need my landscape
to not be a sea of green, you know, green grass,
green ground covers, green shrubs, green trees. I like green.
It's a pretty color, but there are other colors. What
would you suggest as just some of the top plants
to have color could be shaded or sun uh, when
it's blazing hot out there, when we don't want to
be inside. Plants that are outside laughing, having a good time.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
A couple of evergreen shrubs that are almost full of
color all summer.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Abelia.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
So Abelia's come in several varieties. Depending on the variety,
bill either have a white bloom or a pink bloom.
But those things, as far as an evergreen shrub, they
bloom more than any other evergreen shrub. They'll start blooming
in June and go all the way at least through
the end of October. Some of them have irrigated foliage,
some of them have green foliage. So that way you know,

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when they're not blooming, they still have some color, So
that would be a great one to add, you know,
as far as kind of some foundation shrubs, Tot'll give
you color pretty much year round. Texas age also they
have that kind of silvery foliage year round and then
purple blooms kind of off and on throughout the summer.

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They come in several varieties, so uh, you know, some
of them are more compact varieties, some of them.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Getting great big and would work for a good stream. Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Crape myrtles, of course at this time of year, this
is their time to shine, you know, just like you
were talking about the innovations that came along with sun
and shade colias and sun and shave pladiums. Crape myrtles.
You know, there's so many varieties nowadays that you know,
you really don't have to whack them back in the
winter time to keep them the size you want. The breeders,
you know, there's people that devote their lives to breeding

(33:19):
a crepe myrtle that will get you know, say six
feet tall and a specific color that they wanted with
a specific foliage color. Yes, so there's you know, all shape,
sizes and colors for crape myrtles that will fit anybody's needs.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
That is so true. That is really true. From three
feet to thirty five feet. I mean it's it's a
great range. We're about to run out of time and
get some music here, but I want to keep talking
as we go into the music and stuff. Something I
tell people for summer is remember you don't have to
have ballooms to have color. There's some beautiful foliage. You know.
We got the sunshine laugustrum. We have a number of

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plants that do have really a track get foliage, so
even without blooms on them, they do well. I think
about the oh gosh, what is the canna tropicana also
called fasion cannas? And do you have any other foliage
particular plants that you might want to add to the
list of things for keeping that sea of green a

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little bit more colorful.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, I'm standing right in front of some of the
copper plants right now. That's kind of an old passion
one that you don't see much nowadays. But the pretty
coppery colored, you know, tropical looking foliage. It's great for
around the pool, anything with you know, big colorful leaves,
is great for around the pool. Huban Gold Dearanta, Yeah
as well, that's another good one. There's barigated high biscuit

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that even when they're not blooming, they still have great
foliage color. Any of the Nadinas. There's so many nandinas
that have good color year round nowadays.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So those are some of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
So many plants, so many plans, so little airtime. Well, Joey,
you've been a wealth of information pleasure to have. You
just remind folks, this is talking to Joey Lenterman from
Enchanted Gardens out just north of Richmond Rosenberg Katie Foster
site on Highway three point fifty nine. You need to
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