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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, We've seen plenty of anarchy in our nation cities. Mercifully,
we've not seen it in Houston. And how refreshing was it,
by the way, to hear Mayor Whitmeyer say, yeah, we're
cooperating with ICE. Knubs said, we're cooperating. Clearly they're cooperating.
There have been thousands of ICE arrest here in the
city of Houston. You don't don't hear about any huge
protests going on or demonstrations with massed individuals riding in
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the streets. Says a lot about who we are. I
think doctor Greg Freeman, HPD Captain retired joins us. Let's
start with the cooperation thing. How refreshing is that to
hear that we have a Democrat mayor who's cooperating with ICE.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I think it's amazing, Jimmy, and thank you for having
me on. And what you just said strikes at the
point of who we are as Houstonians. We have never
had anything like this happen in our city. While other
cities burn historically for the last four or fifty years
with social and civil unrest, Houston has remained relatively cammon.
That has a lot to do with the leadership and
the history of our police department here.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
No, you're right. Also, we have this new rule that
the federal government evidently is ready to go ahead and enforce.
It wasn't supposed to go into effect until January, but
I guess it's going into effect immediately. If you're an
anti ICE agitator, if you're there protesting, if you are
wearing a mask, you'll be arrested for no other purpose
than the fact that you're wearing a mask attempting to
conceal your identity.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I think it's an amazing piece of federal legislation and
one thing that we've known to be true about these protesters,
and I've seen this firsthand. You have a very small
percentage of people that truly are protesting or First Amendment
right to come out to these venues, and they really are.
But embedded within these groups you have a large contingency
of criminals. You have agitators from ICE, you've got anarchists,
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you've got people that just simply hate the police, and
you have criminals. And there's a lot of anonymity when
you put a mask on, and there's a lot of
psychology Jimmy behind this that emboldens them to do things
that they wouldn't normally do. So being able to unmask
them immediately and unseal who they really are is going
to strike fear in their hearts immediately, and I think
you'll see a large reduction in these protests that, especially
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at these ice facilities.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, I think too that what people will find, assuming
that the protesting continues, that we're arrestling the same people
over and over and over again. It's not like we've
got thousands of people who are participating in these protests.
We've got the same people protesting over and over again.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Now that's exactly right, and our intelligence has clearly shown
these people are paid protesters, being funded by Sorrows and
other left wing radical organizations, and they're traveling from city
to city to city. They have a vast network, they
communicate effectively, and it's an organization that's suing you, there's
no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So is part of the solution here, doctor Freeman, to
not just out the protesters, but to out the money
source of these protesters, to make sure everybody understands where
this money is coming from, and can we prosecute groups
that are willing to spend money to pay protesters to
agitate into cause violence.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Absolutely, and the fact that the federal government and this
administration just declared Antifa a terrorist organization. Once you start
finding out sources of money that's coming into that, they
are co conspirators on that federal level as well, and
you will see a large reduction in the people that
are doing this because once you do expose who they
are and they realize that they're looking at federal jail time,
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which we know that they're going to serve ninety percent
of the sentences and wait to these people that have
just been recently arrested over the last several months for
interfering and assaulting federal officers. When their cases go to
court and their sentences become known, it's going to send
shockwaves through that community because they're going to realize that
the government means business.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
All right, Doctor Freeman, always good to talk to you, Sarah.
Thank you. That is HPD Captain retired doctor Greg Freeman.
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