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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm sure the cartel's got all kinds of pretty colored pills,
many of which will kill you because they contain fentanol.
So much sore that we've declared war on drugs and
we've been willing to take out narco terrorists in order
to be able to make this happen. But this does
not make the President of Mexico happy. Not that I
care that we're not making the president of Mexico happy.
(00:21):
But what is Claudia Scheinbaum's problem? Is the problem because
she thinks that somehow we're taking away the rights of
these drug runners? Or is the problem really that her
government is still in bed with the cartels and therefore
trying to protect them for financial gain. Ildefonso or teases
with us with bright Bard News. Which is it, Ildefonso?
(00:41):
What is her problem with us taking out the drug cartels?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, you see, she's in a tight spot right now
because these cardtails. If you look at the Mexican elections
going back seven years, her predecessor, who's founded the party
in Mexico under the Manuelope, got to power by basically
protecting cartels. He basically started the approach of hugs not bullets.
(01:09):
We're going to have the Mexican military stand down, the
federal police stand down, and we're going to the way
he said it, they were going to push social programs
to get people out of the organized crime life. That
was his approach, and that's how he claimed it out
in publicly, but privately he was getting his campaigns funded
by these drug cartels, and he was actually having the
(01:31):
cartels have people go out and vote for them. So
then comes Claudia, you know, she says she came after him,
and she's trying to appease the cartels because they're you know,
they pretty much got her in power and got a
lot of people in her party in power. However, right
now she has a pressure from the Trump administration, so
(01:51):
she's between the rock and a hard place. So privately
she may be helping the US in some ways, but
publicly she actually has to denounced the Warren drugs claims
that you know, they're violating cartel members' rights by just
targeting them and killing them, that, you know, and so forth.
So that's sort of what's been going on in Mexico.
(02:12):
But yes, there is a direct connection between a lot
of these politicians having their campaigns funded with money from
drug cartels.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And there she is trying to thread the needle between
trying to appease the cartels and trying to appease the
Trump administration. That seems like a no win situation.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You're right, and you know, and Trump has said it
several times before that you know, she's afraid of her
own shadow. That Mexico is in fact controlled by drug cartels,
and that is very true. There are several parts of
Mexico where these cartels have more power than Mexico's government,
to the point where if you want to, you know,
say you buy some items in the US, like a
(02:49):
used car and so forth, you have to pay your
taxes to the cartel to be able to bring that
vehicle into Mexico. That's how much power these guys have.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, you know, we heard the stories about Los Convos
that that was no longer a safe place for American tourists.
Is that indeed the case? And what other areas are
places that if you're an American you probably should not
consider going there on vacation.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, I mean, first of all, like most of the
border towns are actually not safe. You will likely be
stopped by organized crime and you will have to pay
a fee just to travel through there or to bring
any type of goods. Plus the danger of risk is
very high. Most of the border cities are labeled as
Level four territories by the US Department of State. Level
(03:34):
four is the same level that's used for active war zones,
So that kind of gives you an idea of how
bad the border cities are. Of course, politicians will tell
you things are great, our crime stats are so low
and so forth. That's just you know, them trying to
to kind of pretend that you know, this war that
I love to use, no Pasanada, nothing's happening. And that's
(03:55):
the rhetoric that Mexico loves to push. But in reality,
the highest, the most prevalent crime for American citizens, it's
the risk of kidnapping and extortion.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well again, you know, just at the risk of sounding
like a broken record that you talk about rock and
a hard place here in Mexico has relied on traditional
and tourism for much of its income. If people are
afraid to travel to Mexico, that income goes away, and
then you're dependent on the drug cartel income.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, and you know, and but the drug cartels are
actually encroaching other areas that are you know, were deemed
safe in the past. For example, everybody likes going to
Concon for sprim break and summer vacations and so forth. However,
Cancoon has actually eight different cartels fighting for control of
that region, so you see, you know, they're trying to
fight for the local drug trade, the local sex trade
(04:44):
and so forth, and the control even the control of
alcohol because most of the resorts and most of the
bars and so forth will have to buy from a
designated cartel vendor. So that is why there's a lot
of violent is going on in the Concorn area as well,
and tourists have been caught in the middle in the past,
(05:05):
so that's sort of the risk, and it's spreading to
pretty much all parts of Mexico.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, no safe place to go in Mexico. You'll, Defonso,
thank you, appreciate your time very much. You'll de Fonso
Ortiz with bright Bart News