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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And evidently he's interested also added to the list, of
course what he did for the government, and it was
much appreciated, you know, with Doge. But he is sorely
disappointed with the Big Beautiful Bill and evidently is threatening
a third party. Jacob Blaine joins US GOP strategist at Newsmacks.
Clearly he's not having any impact on Republicans in Washington,
(00:24):
d C. Because the Big Beautiful Bill seems to be
poised to pass maybe by the end of the day today.
Certainly I would think through the House by some time
this morning. So should we take Elon's threat seriously? And
is that a potential problem for Republicans going forward?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, first off, thanks for having me on happy pre
Independence Day. It is a threat the Republicans should take seriously,
but it's a lot easier said than done. If we
know about third parties in this country, we have some
right now, and they are not very successful. I think
the last what they considered successful campaign was Gary Johnson
(01:03):
in twenty sixteen, and he came in with a whopping
three percent of the vote. So what I would tell
Elon is that sure he's got the money, and I'm
sure he can find the folks that would be willing
to join him on this venture. But what he's got
to deal with is fifty different state laws, fifty different
state board of elections, and fifty different bureaucracies. And like
(01:26):
I said, it is a lot easier said than done
forming a new party. He would actually be a lot
smarter using an existing party to put up primary challengers.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, and I think that's the other thing he's threatening.
He claims he is willing to spend money to primary
any Republican that votes for the big, beautiful bill. That's
a lot of candidates.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And again I say good luck, because sure, we are
a year and a half out from the midterms, and
that sounds like an eternity, but in politics, that's going
to come really quickly. So that would mean he would
have to find over four hundred and thirty five candidates
for the House. He would have to find about thirty
three or thirty four for the Senate, almost thirty five governors.
(02:08):
I just don't see him being able to do this.
And again, the thing with Elon is is that he
appeals to the right, but he also appeals to the
left as well, So which party is he actually hurting
more by starting a third party. Good point, good question,
good point.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right, let me ask you about the Big Beautiful Bill,
which I'm not going to call it big beautiful anymore.
I think I'm gonna call it pretty. It's it's, it's, it's.
It doesn't quite make it, certainly doesn't make all of
President Trump's campaign promises come true. I wonder, of course,
people aren't really paying a lot of attention yet to
the finer details. But there's a lot of things in
(02:45):
there that were watered down in the Senate. You don't
get you don't get your no taxes on tips and overtime.
You get reduced taxes on tips and overtime, but you're
still paying some taxes on that. There's there's a bigger
senior tax deduction, but you know, you sell pay taxes
on your Social Security earnings, at least at the federal level.
So how long do you think before people become disappointed
(03:10):
with the Big Beautiful Bill for not turning out to
be what they thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, look, I mean, look at any type of legislation,
there's going to be disappointments. Right. There is no way
that this bill was going to make one hundred percent
of people, especially conservatives and the GOP happy. But I'd
say eighty five percent of this bill is good. And
what I would say is that this bill is a
starting point. It's a starting point for House Republicans, for
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Senate Republicans, and for President Trump's agenda to get going.
Let's pass this first. Then we can go back through
legislation and change some of the things that's wrong with
this bill. But look, I mean, we're all you know,
it's almost July fourth, right, so we've had this Congress
has been in session for over six months. What have
they done? Right? We've got to get some of his
(03:56):
agenda done, especially while they hold the House and Senate
because the House is going to be extremely difficult to
hold in twenty twenty six. And we've got to show
something for the fact that you know, we've had that,
we've had Congress this long. We've got to do something.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Agreed with that. All right, Good to talk to you, Sarah,
Thank you. Happy for Jacob Blaine, GOP strategist and Newsmaxican
tributor