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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So the FBI started by saying that the
attack in New Orleans was not a terrorist attack. They
soon reverse course on that one. Now they're saying that
there's no relationship. They don't believe there's any relationship between
the attack in Las Vegas and what happened in New Orleans.
And they think that the New Orleans attacker was a
lone wolf, that he didn't get any help or influence
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from anybody else. James Conway joins, this former FBI special
agent will get into the method these terroist are using
in just second, James. But I'm just kind of wondering.
I don't know what years you served with the FBI,
but it certainly seems like in recent years there's been
a lot of flipping back and forth in the FBI
when it comes to sharing information and being transparent.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, Hi, good morning, Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, this situation with the youngerly who was the assistant
Special Agent in charge saying it's not a terrorist event.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know, it was early on things that just happened
a couple hours earlier, and I think that they wanted
to make sure that they it could be a criminal act,
it could be a terrorist act. And I think that
they felt as though they didn't have enough variables to
declare it as a terrorist event.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, but she specifically said it wasn't a terrorist attack,
which is you know, that's telling you that they believe
it is something incompletely different when they obviously weren't quite
sure yet what was going on.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, what happened in Las Vegas was obviously a criminal event,
and what happened in New Orleans it was a terrorist event.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So you know, I know it sounds like splitting hairs,
but in retrospect, everybody with an ISIS flag and.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
All the variables it took place in New Orleans, clearly
it was a terrorist event. But the thing is is,
you know, what you have to have in order for
something to be cleared a terrorist event or a terrorist
incident is obviously there's three components. By definition under the
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law as well as the FBI's definition of NAG.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It has to be violence against innocence, and clearly you
had that, But there also has to be an ideology behind.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
It, whether it's political.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Or religious, economic, whatever that ideology is. And I think
that they wanted to make sure that that was there
before it could be declared a terrorist event, But you
know it was I think pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, you got a nicest flag in the back.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We didn't matter of Yeah an hour or two that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You got the nicest flag in the back of the
truck and the last names Jabbar's probably a pretty good
chance that that's what you're dealing with, James, I what
at I talk to about? What New Orleans? You know,
obviously No Orleans had some issues in dealing with this.
They didn't have the right equipment of it. They were
getting ready for the Super Bowl. We're told this seems
to be the attack at least right now. Choice when
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it comes to terrorism, I don't know how long this
is going to be attacked. They seem terrorist organizations seem
to be very good at moving on to the next
thing before we figure out what to do with what
they're already doing.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, the use of vehicles, the vehicle borne devices as
they're called, have been used. It's part of the modus
operandi of terrorist organizations around the world. We saw it
in Nice, we saw it in Bustles, we saw it
in London, we saw it at the Christmas Market a
few weeks ago in Germany. So yes, it's part of
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their modus operandi as part of what they do. You know,
a vehicle really has two different components. It could be
used purely as a missile, as a device to run
people over and kill them, as we saw in Nice,
as we saw in the London Bridge, but also terrorists
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utilize explosives combined with vehicles, use those vehicles to detonate
explosive devices and move explosives into specific areas.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We saw that with the.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
US embassy bombings in Africa all the way back in
the nineteen nineties. So yeah, vehicles are a methodology that
and a motus operandi of terrorist organizations, and you see
that on their chat rooms, you see that in their
propaganda and so forth. Jimmy, it's a hard target today,
and you know, obviously these bad guys collect intelligence.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
This guy, the police did.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Have the street barricaded, not a real hard barricade system,
but he knew that and he was able to drive
up on the sidewalk and obviate the physical security and
of course run over a number of people, killing fifteen
of them. So it's a horrific act, but it is
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what it is. Terrorist organization are hell bent on doing this,
and this is really an anomaly. This guy is a
former military guy. He doesn't really meet the profile. He's
in his forties. But I think the thing that we
learn from this, it's frightening.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Is we learn that terrorist organizations today are really utilizing
cyberspace not just for propaganda and fundraising and so forth,
but also for training.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, well they're they're clearly training, clearly very good at recruiting,
there's no doubt about that. James. I have to run,
but thank you for your Time's more.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Good at training, good at passing information, good at raising funds,
and it all takes place on those cell phones that
are in our hands in cyberspace.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's a hard target, it is, James coming. Thank you
so much, sir, appreciate Farmer ABI Special Agent James Conway
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