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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven twenty two is our time here on Houston's Morning News.
We are joined by Robert Gahalley's a pollster and the
founder of the Trafalger Group. Welcome to the show. I'm
kind of looking at the polling information. Maybe Wisconsin is
a great example about how difficult this thing was. I know,
I think the last poll that you folks did and
Wisconsin you showed Kamala Harris with an ever so itty
(00:22):
bitty lead. Of course she ended up losing that Donald
Trump and Wisconsin, but it was all within the margin
of error. I mean, Trump ended up with about forty
nine point seven percent to Kamala Harris's forty eight point
eight percent. When you're split numbers like that, that's pretty
tough to come up with the winner sometimes, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's real tough. That was one that we were off
by one point seven and me, you know, the goal
is trying to be within your margining of era and
me under two percent is really good. So Georgia we
were off by one titam point North Cana two tents
point six tenths of points. I mean, I think Michigan
(01:03):
was one point six. I mean, it was our err
rate so far, it's just phenomenally low in this election.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, but you made so much sense to me when
we talked to you the last time, talking about how
you asked different questions and you go to different targets
than the traditional and what has been the mainstay of
pulling has been because the whole world has changed.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
There's no question. I mean, that's why we kind of
push back on some of the polling orthodoxy. Again. They're
focused on and they are all they have to use
only the live call. The live call is only okay,
that sounds great, you know, but he is how many
people do you know under fifty that you call on
(01:51):
the phone and that they're just going to answer the
phone or a number they don't know and talk murpley
like that doesn't happen. And that group you've got to
send a text message. And that group is also many
of them are very savvy and they're not going to
just click on a random link that somebody sends. The
moves do they say it's a pole? I mean, at best,
(02:15):
it's a fundraising it to you, and at worst, it's
some kind of a you know something, some kind of
virus is going to affect your phone We don't do
it that way. We send you a poll and all
we ask you to fund to is whatever letter of
corresponds to your answer, and then we send you the
next question. You don't risk anything. I mean, nobody's ever
(02:36):
gotten infected by taking me back in aarb.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Have you found though? That I know? And I can
only use myself as an example. I am that everybody
wants me to take a survey. Everybody and their brother,
every business out there that I do business with, every
restaurant I go to, everybody wants a survey. The last thing.
I've just taken the policy. In my mind, I'm not
responding to any of them. You can go survey somebody else.
Have you found that certain age groups in particular are
(03:02):
resistant no matter what you do to answering questions.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, that is the case for a lot of things.
And certainly when we're trying to pull uh you know,
lower race. Uh you know, somebody trying to.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Pull a house race or a local race. But with
the president's race is a little different. They we get
a better participation rate when there's a question. I mean,
that's to be Donald Trump. Like him, I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
People kind of share their opinions about us and this
president race. It just it is. People have an opinion.
It's not a person. They go, oh, I think of
that guy. Nobody says that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Can I ask you quickly because we're going to run
out of time? What are you pulling now now that
the election is over? I mean, are you pulling anything
political now moving forward?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hope?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Hopefully nothing for a little while. Yeah, we do have,
I believe it or not. Politics has already started. There's
just some municipal elections in some major places coming up
next spring. So uh, you know, we've got a couple
of projects right now, but we have to do between
(04:20):
now and the now on Christmas that We've got to
get some answers on because as soon as the Christmas
season starts, it's just miserable. Uh and it won't let
up till after the first year. So yeah, well, and
these are more like just kind of name recognition stuff.
And again, this is gonna be hard to get connect people.
(04:40):
And one thing, you don't try anything and anything that
was a swing space because you know, God for me,
those poor people has just been in sure I'm going
to answer their phone. I mean I can I can
just say this if you live in Georgia, don't call
them all they can handle North kind of all they
can add.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
How long before you do your first presidentialpproval? Paul for Trump?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know he's the one guy that you that you
could probably do something. You give me an idea. Now
you give me an idea, get an approval ready on
how he's been at me as president elect. That's that
propy that probably gets well.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Let me.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Love to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
If you do that, we'd like to see the results,
that's for sure. Thanks for joining us as always, sir,
we appreciate it. That's Robert Gahley, pollster and founder of
the Trafalgar Group.
Seven twenty two is our time here on Houston's Morning News.
We are joined by Robert Gahalley's a pollster and the
founder of the Trafalger Group. Welcome to the show. I'm
kind of looking at the polling information. Maybe Wisconsin is
a great example about how difficult this thing was. I know,
I think the last poll that you folks did and
Wisconsin you showed Kamala Harris with an ever so itty
(00:22):
bitty lead. Of course she ended up losing that Donald
Trump and Wisconsin, but it was all within the margin
of error. I mean, Trump ended up with about forty
nine point seven percent to Kamala Harris's forty eight point
eight percent. When you're split numbers like that, that's pretty
tough to come up with the winner sometimes, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's real tough. That was one that we were off
by one point seven and me, you know, the goal
is trying to be within your margining of era and
me under two percent is really good. So Georgia we
were off by one titam point North Cana two tents
point six tenths of points. I mean, I think Michigan
(01:03):
was one point six. I mean, it was our err
rate so far, it's just phenomenally low in this election.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, but you made so much sense to me when
we talked to you the last time, talking about how
you asked different questions and you go to different targets
than the traditional and what has been the mainstay of
pulling has been because the whole world has changed.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
There's no question. I mean, that's why we kind of
push back on some of the polling orthodoxy. Again. They're
focused on and they are all they have to use
only the live call. The live call is only okay,
that sounds great, you know, but he is how many
people do you know under fifty that you call on
(01:51):
the phone and that they're just going to answer the
phone or a number they don't know and talk murpley
like that doesn't happen. And that group you've got to
send a text message. And that group is also many
of them are very savvy and they're not going to
just click on a random link that somebody sends. The
moves do they say it's a pole? I mean, at best,
(02:15):
it's a fundraising it to you, and at worst, it's
some kind of a you know something, some kind of
virus is going to affect your phone We don't do
it that way. We send you a poll and all
we ask you to fund to is whatever letter of
corresponds to your answer, and then we send you the
next question. You don't risk anything. I mean, nobody's ever
(02:36):
gotten infected by taking me back in aarb.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Have you found though? That I know? And I can
only use myself as an example. I am that everybody
wants me to take a survey. Everybody and their brother,
every business out there that I do business with, every
restaurant I go to, everybody wants a survey. The last thing.
I've just taken the policy. In my mind, I'm not
responding to any of them. You can go survey somebody else.
Have you found that certain age groups in particular are
(03:02):
resistant no matter what you do to answering questions.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh, that is the case for a lot of things.
And certainly when we're trying to pull uh you know,
lower race. Uh you know, somebody trying to.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Pull a house race or a local race. But with
the president's race is a little different. They we get
a better participation rate when there's a question. I mean,
that's to be Donald Trump. Like him, I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
People kind of share their opinions about us and this
president race. It just it is. People have an opinion.
It's not a person. They go, oh, I think of
that guy. Nobody says that.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Can I ask you quickly because we're going to run
out of time? What are you pulling now now that
the election is over? I mean, are you pulling anything
political now moving forward?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hope?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Hopefully nothing for a little while. Yeah, we do have,
I believe it or not. Politics has already started. There's
just some municipal elections in some major places coming up
next spring. So uh, you know, we've got a couple
of projects right now, but we have to do between
(04:20):
now and the now on Christmas that We've got to
get some answers on because as soon as the Christmas
season starts, it's just miserable. Uh and it won't let
up till after the first year. So yeah, well, and
these are more like just kind of name recognition stuff.
And again, this is gonna be hard to get connect people.
(04:40):
And one thing, you don't try anything and anything that
was a swing space because you know, God for me,
those poor people has just been in sure I'm going
to answer their phone. I mean I can I can
just say this if you live in Georgia, don't call
them all they can handle North kind of all they
can add.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
How long before you do your first presidentialpproval? Paul for Trump?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know he's the one guy that you that you
could probably do something. You give me an idea. Now
you give me an idea, get an approval ready on
how he's been at me as president elect. That's that
propy that probably gets well.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Let me.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Love to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
If you do that, we'd like to see the results,
that's for sure. Thanks for joining us as always, sir,
we appreciate it. That's Robert Gahley, pollster and founder of
the Trafalgar Group.
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