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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is.
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On the air.
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This aspect of what is now being investigated as a
as a second attempted assassination of former President Trump has
been identified. If I already say, his name is Ryan
Wesley Roath. He allegedly poked his muzzle of his AK
forty seven star rifle through a chainling fence as he
was hiding in the bushes of former President Trump's golf
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course in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's when an agent saw it. An open fire cooking
with a long history. You know, that's a little bit old.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
That chart, that charts a couple of months old.
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And if you want to really see.
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Something, that said, take a look at what happened.
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Show and there was the best shine fireway, come on
to come on, you don't fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's case.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
See about Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob
of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And
what did the president then at the time say, there
were fine people on each.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Side, but you also had people that were very fine
people on both sides.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And you had people and.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white nationalists,
because they should be condemned totally.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of
this election is not to his liking.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Those big monster car manufacturing plans that you build thing
in Mexico right now, and you think you're gonna get that,
you're gonna not hire Americans and you're gonna sell the cars. Now,
We're gonna put a one tower for every single car
that comes across the line, and you're not gonna be
able to sell those because if I get elected, Now,
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if I don't get elected, it's gonna be a blood
bath for the whole that's gonna be the least of it.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's gonna be a blood bath for the country that'll
be the least of it. The best shine, the best shine,
the best shined.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Shine.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Explosive interview coming up with Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher in
just a few moments. Eddie Gallagher was imprisoned, was jailed,
was accused of killing Isis. That's why he was sent
to Iraq. Was being you used in a terrible, terrible
political situation, President Trump, came out in favor of Eddie
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Gallagher and some folks well. President Trump came out in
favor of Eddie Gallagher and said he needs to be
released pending his trial. He deserves a fair trial or
actions conducted in war. He thought Dan Crenshaw would help him,
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he says. Dan Crenshaw worked behind the scenes. A number
of members of Congress, he says, told him that Crenshaw
tried to keep him in jail before the trial. He
later won't meet with Dan Crenshaw. Grenshaw admitted that as
a video of that as well, and he's mad about it.
He was he was in danger of going to prison
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for life for actions taken while he was in war.
And it turns out the prosecutor who prosecuted him was
stripped of all of his medals, which is the worst
punishment you can get as a military attorney in such
a case. And the whole case fell apart, and it
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turns out that Eddie Gallagher was caught up in something
that was far beyond him, forces, far beyond him. But
what Dan Crenshaw did to him, he says, is as
awful as you can possibly imagine, the sense of betrayal
of what he did. He's going to tell his story
coming up in just a few minutes. And what's interesting
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is it's part of a pattern. David Goggins one of
the very few black Navy seals I've ever heard of
who ends every YouTube video with stay hard, get out there,
Attack life. He was hired by the owner of the
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Atlanta Hawks come and live with him for a month
and toughing up his family, and the guy wrote a book.
Jesse Ittzler wrote a book about that experience and how
the strength of character and discipline of David Goggins was
something he had never witnessed in his life before. David Goggins,
who is a walking Navy Seal recruitment ad because of
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the things he's overcome and his attitude for life. You
can do anything if you have the grit and determination
to do it. David Goggins was insulted by Dan Crenshaw,
who said he's not really a seal. He doesn't do
seal stuff. He's just talking about running fifty miles and stuff.
Goggins shredded him. It's all online. You can see it
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for yourself. Okay, so there's your second Navy seal that
Crenshaw Cringeshaw feels some need to tear down so that
he can be the only Navy seal. I guess in
public life than there's Sean Ryan. One of the biggest
podcasts in the world. Sean Ryan was asking questions, Hey,
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is Dan Crenshaw insider trading? Is he trading stocks on
information that he gains as a member of Congress. He
asked the question. Crenshaw's lawyers did exactly what they did
to me. They sent him a cease and assist. We're
gonna sue you. We're gonna sue you. Don't talk about Dan.
We're going to sue you. Sean Ryan said, fine, sue me.
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There is your third Navy seal that Dan Crenshaw can't
get along with. Again, he fights with everyone, and it's
always some sense of betrayal, some sense of Weasley behavior.
Tucker Carlson asked questions about Dan Crenshaw a number of questions.
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He asked questions about Crenshaw in Mexico, and it has
been reported and alleged that Crenshaw was drunk there and
was told that he wouldn't be allowed on a diplomatic
mission for a month. We can't ever seem to get
an answer out of congressional leadership out of it. Not
surprising the Republicans are going to protect one of their
own as to was he crass and crewed and drunk
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and behaved in such a manner? Imagine this. If you're
a congressman, you already have a pretty wide latitude. Did
he behave so? I don't know, but there's videos about it.
There's a lot of people talking about it, and Sean
Ryan talked about a number of things, asking about whether
he conducted insider trading. That's what Martha Stewart went to
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prison for one time. There are allegations with regard to Crenshaw. Yeah,
I tightened up my language a little. Sure, I will
do that. I will do that. You're going to run
and get a bunch of lawyers. I know little thing
or two myself. Then Tucker Carlson asked questions about him,
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and he tells a reporter on a hot mic, I'm
gonna kill that if I ever see that man, I'm
gonna kill him. What in a wall? Anyway? Eddie Gallagher
will be our guest coming up.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Hey, this is Tracy Bird, and I tip my hand
to the keeper the stone.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And the salt.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I want you to imagine in your life. This isn't
a screenplay, this isn't a stage production, this isn't a
sporting performance. I want you to imagine in your life,
whether you are a veteran or not, that you are
doing the most selfless thing you've ever done in your life,
feeling righteous about it, and in that process you are
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betrayed and imprisoned. You're put in a jail cell nine
months until a trial where you will serve for life.
You don't need to be a Navy sealed to understand
the concept that these guys are supposed to have a
very deep bond. There is a member of the US
Congress who's just been elected that year, it's twenty nineteen,
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and you're hearing that he's going to help you, and
you come to find out that not only did he
not help your case, that when fifty members of Congress
signed a letter when the President supported your case, fifty
members of Congress five zero signed a letter for you
to be released so that you could prepare for trial.
You find out, as Eddie Gallagher did, that Dan Crenshaw
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was going to those members and telling them don't support him.
It's a fascinating video about all this online. You can
see all of this. Just look up Eddie gllaher Dan Crenshaw.
It's out there. There's a lot of people, especially in
the special ops communities, but not only in a lot
of people in the political community is talking about this.
And the video is I forget who the person is.
(10:02):
He asked Dan Crenshaw, Well, well, why don't you sit
down with Eddie Gallagher and talk this out? Man demand
and Crenshall says, what is there to say? Well, yeah,
it feels like you helped try to keep him in
prison for life and Crenshaw and the interviewer says, oop,
of all, I can't remember the guy's name. He says,
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the veteran community hates you. Crenshaw's response is not everyone
in the veteran community. Maybe the vet bros. Wow, So,
so you you fought with David Goggins because you don't
think he's Navy seal enough. You fought with John Ryan
because he asked a question about the stock trades You
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made fair game by the way, the Free press asked
you about it, and you dropped an F bomb and said, okay,
so what we just won't make any money? Man? We don't.
We don't make very much money. Whoa WHOA dude? Is
that when you went to Congress? Tucker Carlson questioned him,
and he tells a reporter when he thinks to Mike
is offifver to cutch him, I'll kill him. He goes
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to a town hall back in the district where a
little girl says, you referred to Jesus Christ as a
superman archetype, and he said, don't you question my faith
and the audience was blown away. There is Dan Crenshaw
that when people see they realize this guy is not
who I thought he was. This is not the guy
I campaigned very hard for, and I have a responsibility
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as to a lot of other people. And they felt
it to stand up and say he shouldn't go back
to Congress. We just happened to have the fortunate situation
that we're not trying to elect a Ham Sandwich. Steve
Toath will make a great congressman. This is a this
is a once in a generation opportunity to show a
member of Congress and every other member of Congress who's watching,
you can't behave that way and keep getting re elected
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just because you have all the money in the establishment.
Eddie Gallagher is that man who was imprisoned, who found
himself in that situation. I heard one special opscod doing
a podcast where he said, of Eddie Gagher, my only
disagreement with Eddie Gllagher is I can't imagine how he
doesn't take more drastic actions. He's a more controlled man
than I am. Welcome to the program at A Gagher. Hey,
(12:14):
thank you for having me, folks. I'm going to tell
you this story is so explosive it will blow your mind.
You won't be able to believe that this actually happened. Eddie.
Let's start from I'm going to work in a reverse
linear fashion because I want to get to your background
and I want to get to all the ways that
you ended up where you were. But let's assume, for
somebody that's about to walk in the office, you're in jail.
You've been accused of of killing a little girl and
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an old man on Father's Day. Isis perhaps did that?
And you're sitting in jail rotting, not able to prepare
for your trial, and you're thinking that Dan Crenshaw will
help you, and then what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, so you're correct on that I was, yeah, sitting
in prison facing those charges, and at that time, my
wife Andrea and my brother Shan were drastically taking measures
to get people to notice what was going on. They
were going to Congress, talking to every congressman that they could,
at least my brother was at the time. In One
of the congressmen names that kept coming up, obviously was
Dan Crenshaw because he was a newly minted congressman and
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he came from the same community as I did. So
when my brother went to him and asked if he
would support he got no answer the first couple of times,
and he kept going back and finally Dan told him, hey,
I'll let me look into it. I'll see what I
can do, which is a valid answer, right especially with
the charges that I was facing. Would if I was
a congressman, I want to do a little digging in myself,
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and obviously what you stated earlier, Yes, Eventually we ended
up getting fifty congressmen to sign a letter to release
me from prison so I could properly prepare for trial
because at the time, while I was locked up, I
was not afforded any of the rights a serviceman.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
My service numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Should be awarded, which is being able to talk to
my lawyers, getting medical visits, just simple stuff like that.
All that was taken from me. So these fifty congressmen
signed on to a letter to get me released from prison.
Dan Crenshaw would not sign that letter. Instead, he wrote
his own letter saying that I belonged in prison to
keep me in prison, but just to have afford me
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to write that I deserve, which is talk to my lawyers.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He didn't believe you would ever know about that letter.
Did he say that again? Did he believe that? You
know what? I'll ask you this question coming up in
just a moment. Edie allaghery is our guest the Michael
Berry Show. While in war, he got caught up in
some really, really nasty politics. We've seen this happen before,
and he would eventually go to trial and he would
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be acquitted. It was determined that he was not guilty,
but it put him through hell. That's not why we're
talking to him. We're talking to him because the last
thing you would expect is another guy from the teams,
another Navy seal would betray you. And he says, that's
exactly what happened. Eddie gallaghery fifty members of Congress wrote
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a letter asking that you'd be released so that you
could prepare for your trial where you were facing life
in prison. And Dan Krinsch did not. He wrote his
own letter. Did he know did he expect that you
would find out about that letter? Was it done in secrecy? No,
it was not done in secrecy.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
As a matter of fact, when we found out, when
my wife and brother found out he was writing that
second letter, they messaged him and said, please do not
do this letter. Do not send it in because it's
distracting from the other letter the other fifty congressman signed,
and Dan did not listen to them. He did it anyways,
submitted it and it ended up not working. The original
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letter of the fifty congressman signed worked. I was released
from prison, and at that point we decided to write
Dan Crenshaw off. We were like, we're no longer going
to ask him for help, and so we continued on,
and like you said, I went to trial, was acquitted
of all charges, and it wasn't until after I had retired.
We went to Congress to thank the fifty congressman for
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signing that letter, and while I was there, I was
pulled aside by numerous Congressman Matt Gates, Ralph Norman, Louis Gohmert,
and they all expressed concern. They said, hey, we want
to let you know that Dan Crenshaw was actively working
against you. That they told he was telling other congressmen
to butt out that it was not their community, it
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was his, and that he would handle it and that
I belonged in prison. And so when I heard that
from these congressmen, that's when my wife and I talked
about it, and I said, should we let people know
that this happened. And even then we didn't put anything
out about it. We're like, you know what, he's a politician.
We didn't expect anything less really, even though he comes
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from our community, and we'll just carry on with our lives.
And it wasn't until a couple of years later when
he started badmouthing me on two other seals, one being
David Goggins. He was messaging David Goggins and saying all
sorts of stuff about me, and David Goggins sent me
that message, and that's when my wife and I decided,
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you know what, we need to do a video and
just let people know what Dan's true character is.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's been alleged that he was messaging David Goggins positively
about liking him and thinking he's great, and then all
the while also went and trash gate David Goggins as well,
saying I don't see that he's a real seal. He
just talks about Ran the sense of betrayal. And then
there is the Sean Ryan issue where Sean Ryan asked
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questions which we should do of Dan Crenshaw's behavior, and
then he has his lawyers cease and assist. I also
got a cease and assist over the same issue, and
Sean Ryan said that either Sean Ryan or his lawyer
spoke with Grenshaw's lawyers and they said they said, Sean
Ryan or his lawyers said, what are you doing with
these lawsuits? This is ridiculous. They said, Oh, we don't
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actually sue anybody. We just try to intimidate them to
stop talking about Dan. This pattern continues again and again
and again. You know, your issue was twenty nineteen, he
was a new congressman, but this issue has continued throughout
the course of his time. Eddie Gallagher, I want to
go back to your case that was twenty nineteen. I
saw an interview that you did. It was a YouTube,
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some video you were talking about. You were at an
event and you're walking down the hallway and you spot
him coming down the hallway and he drops his head
and avoids averts your eye. He cannot make eye contact
with you, he cannot speak to you. Can you tell
that story? Sure?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah. It wasn't too long after I retired. And actually
this was after I had already found out that Dan
was working against me, when the accomplishman told me, and
I saw him at a Turning Point USA event in
the morning, and I honestly just wanted to go up
and talk to him and find out why he took
the actions that he did. Just team got a team guy.
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But as soon as he saw me, he put his
head down and scurried right past me as fast as
he could with his little entourage. And that was the
first time I tried to actually establish some kind of
communications with him to find out why he was doing
the things he did. I've over the past five years,
I've given ample opportunity to talk to him behind closed
doors publicly whatever he wanted to do, just to hash
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things out, and each and every time that it is offered,
he instead of actually talking to me, he goes and
bad mouths me and some other former fashion I have
a litany of text messages from other companies friends that
I have, or Dan reaches out to them telling them
that they're not allowed to talk to me, that they
should not be working with me or be friends with me.
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I mean, it gets that petty, and so we've never
I've never had the chance to sit down with him
and talk face to face. By what I do think
is kind of funny, Mike. Is that just the other day,
when Steve Toth announced that I would be coming out
to Dan's district to speak the truth about what his
you know, his character flaws. I received a letter in
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the mail two days before I flew out here, and
it was from Dan, the first time he's ever reached out.
And in that letter there is no accountability. It is
all that, oh, this has been a big miscommunication and
that you don't really understand what I was trying to do.
You know, Dan, I'll say this, out of all the
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allegations that have come across these past five years, when
you've brought it up with Sean Ryan Tuckercarls and all
these things.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, no man is perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Everybody makes mistakes, but the inability to hold yourself accountable
is a huge character flaw. And I can tell you know,
you can look at and look in the past any
man with power, if you see his fall, it's usually
due to one thing, and that's the inability to control
one's ego. And that's what we have with Dan Crenshaw.
Pride go with before a fall. There is a level
of hubris and pride and arrogance and anger that are
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the combustible mix of Cringshaw that make him such a
troubling He's also duplicitous.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He's two faces. I want to go back the idea.
You know, he could have chosen not to help you,
and that would have been dirty. But he didn't just
choose not to help you. You said you learned from
credible sources other members of Congress that he was working
to keep you in jail. This isn't whether you would
be punished for what you were accused of. We'll get
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to that. You you were acquitted that the trial, the
prosecutors were stripped of their medals. This was a very
political case, one of the Navy seals that was supposed
to be the witness breaks down on trial. All of
that aside, and he knew all that he had to
because as a member of Congress and a Navy seal,
he could have called the Department of Defense and gotten
a briefing on this. And yet he chose not only
to not get involved, but to actively get involved to
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try to ruin you. This is not being dramatic here.
This is literally trying to ruin you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, And you know, I think that's that's politics in
a nutshell right there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh, I know, I disagree, Eddie. I've known a lot
of politicians. I've known a lot of politicis. This is
dirty on a level. I really don't know how you
keep your cool. You are a much better man than
I ever could be.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I got I pray every day for patients and that's
what God gives me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's amazing. It's amazing. Eddie Gallagher and I will be
together tonight at a Steve Toath event. You can go
to Steve to Tth's campaign website to find out where
and the time more with our guest Eddie Gallagher, Navy
Seal Kmrene. He's the Michael Barry Show. Eddie Gallagher is
known as is what is known as a lifer, having
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spent not just one tour one term. He served in Iraq,
he served in Afghanistan. He has multiple trainings. He went
to the United States Marine Corps Scout Sniper School. He
became a seal after graduating. Buds where's the special warfare
insignia two bronze stars. This guy's a hero within the military.
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They don't like that term. And to find out that
you were betrayed, as he says he was, by Dan Crenshaw,
a guy parading around in Congress as a war or
a veteran who seems to fight with everybody, every other
Navy seal than anyone else. I can't imagine. And I
admire the fact that through prayer you've been able to
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retain this sense of of this sense of calm. It's
it's powerful. I read that your nickname is Blade. Is
that true?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, that's one of the nicknames.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Do you care to share the others? Eddie Gallagher, share
the story of how how I got that name? No,
you said that's one of the names. Do you have
other nicknames that we need to know about?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh fast, Eddie is the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Okay, all right, yeah, sure, tell the story about how
you came to be known as as Blade.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Actually that that story is probably better not told publicly,
but I'll just know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What Yeah, yeah, let's let's do that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
A long time ago.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I will be with Eddie Gallagher tonight at a Steve
Toaf campaign event. Both of us believe in this cause
and that's why we're there. You can go to the
Steve Toath campaign online find out where it is. It
may be sold out. This the only reason. I say
maybe at capacity, So that's the only reason I'm sending
you there. They get rather than giving the day. How
did you get involved with Steve Toath, who, by the way,
I've known for many years, long before he ran for Congress,
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and know him to be a good, decent, honorable, honest man.
And not only is he an alternative to Crenshaw, I
would support him if it was an open seat. I
think he's that type of man. But how did you
get involved with him? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So I through a mutual friend of ours, Chad Robershaw,
had told me that Steve Toath was running against Dan,
or deciding to run against Dan. So we had connected
over the phone, and I had invited him out to
come on my podcast in Florida because I really wanted
to get to know the man who was going to
be running against Dan. I was excited that someone was
running against him, but I wanted to know where Steve
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stood on his value and beliefs. And so I got
to spend time with him and his lovely wife for
a couple of days, and I share your same thoughts.
He's just a good human being. He's a man who
stands behind his values and beliefs and does not budge
on them. And so when I after the first couple
of days of hanging out with him, I couldn't have
been more excited that he was a man who was
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going to replace Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
When when you see Dan Crinshaw in public, parading around
as you know, war hero, warmonger, all of these things,
does that bother you or have you moved on? How
do you? How do you view that?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
No, anything Dan does does not really bother me. You know,
It's what bothers me is the fact that he is
representing not only the Seal community, but he's representing his
constituents in such a manner to where he does not
like we talked about earlier take accountability for his mistakes,
you know, and I think just you know, I think
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you admitted it, and I think a lot of other people.
You know, we had high expectations for Dan when he
came into office, because he came from the seal background,
because he sacrificed for this country. But you know, we
do not measure a leader by yesterday's valor while ignoring
his decisions today. So you know, we should judge him
by the direction he is taking us now, and by
the battles that he chooses now, and by whether his
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actions today still reflect the values he asked us to trust.
And I think, you know, if the past five years
has shown us anything that Dan does not embody the
values that he ran on. He's continually making mistakes and
continually not holding himself accountable for it. He's letting his
ego get the better of him. And the oath we
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owe to our country is not to a man's history,
but to our future. And when a man's leaders, when
a leader's present conduct no longer earns that trust, the
hole response is not loyalty, it's accountability.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
He said a lot. What made you want to serve?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I think it's a It's brought into me pretty much
every every male in my and my family has served,
and so you know, I grew up an omni brat.
I was around it. My dad was in the army
for twenty twenty four years, and I think it was
just something that in our family it looks at as
a thing of honor. You should serve your country. If
you want to live in this country, you should serve
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it in some manner so you can earn your spot here.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And you did just about everything, and you've been honored
with just about every merit. When you look back on
your service, obviously some awful things were done to you.
And I've seen this happen with guys who serve in
the politics behind it. Did that sour your sense of
service that you had to go through that living hell?
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Not one bit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I've been asked that question numerous times before. No, I
don't regret ever signing up to serve my country. As
a matter of fact, I have My oldest son is
in the Marine Corps right now. He's serving this country,
and my youngest is starting to think about it. You know,
what happened to me is not you know, due to
the military it's just due to bad leaders that were
put in place, and that's it. And you can get
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that in any organization.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've seen that happen with police officers who were wronged.
I've seen that happen in many, many capacities where good
men and women were wronged by bad people while doing
good work for the best of intentions. Dan Crenshaw got
involved to try to keep you in jail, you say,
and before your trial where you were at risk of
serving life in a case where others changed their testimony,
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broke down on trial on the stand and said no, no,
he didn't do anything wrong. The prosecutor was reprimanded after all.
That's awful what you went through. One of the things
that has been alleged out of all of this is
that President Trump joined with the fifty members of Congress
who were looking for your case. We're looking for you
to be released so you could prepare for the trial.
Who found your case to be one that deserved more attention,
(28:49):
and that Crenshaw perhaps his hatred of Trump was the
reason that he was involved. On the other side, do
you think there's anything to that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I can't say for certain that that's why he created
that second letter was his hatred for Trump. What I
truly believe is that Dan Crenshaw is an institutionalist and
he was going to do whatever the Institution of Naval
Special Warfare was doing at that time. And at that time,
the leadership of Naval SCHUS Special Warfare was targeting me
and wanting to put me away for life, and so Dan,
(29:22):
I believe, was talking to them and just doing their bidding.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's interesting, isn't it How institutions like this find people
like you expendable, necessary, critical until the moment that you're
expendable and useful for another end. And yet there's always
a guy like a Crenshaw willing to serve that interest
for his own. It's a bad movie plot. Let me
(29:46):
crap on this guy and ruin his life, because then
I'll win favor with the institution. Eddie Gallagher, I look
forward to spending some time with you this evening on
behalf of Steve Toth and shaking your hand and thanking
you for your service good sir, So thank you for
having me on
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This aspect of what is now being investigated as a
as a second attempted assassination of former President Trump has
been identified. If I already say, his name is Ryan
Wesley Roath. He allegedly poked his muzzle of his AK
forty seven star rifle through a chainling fence as he
was hiding in the bushes of former President Trump's golf
(00:35):
course in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's when an agent saw it. An open fire cooking
with a long history. You know, that's a little bit old.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
That chart, that charts a couple of months old.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And if you want to really see.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Something, that said, take a look at what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Show and there was the best shine fireway, come on
to come on, you don't fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's case.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
See about Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob
of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And
what did the president then at the time say, there
were fine people on each.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Side, but you also had people that were very fine
people on both sides.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And you had people and.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white nationalists,
because they should be condemned totally.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of
this election is not to his liking.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Those big monster car manufacturing plans that you build thing
in Mexico right now, and you think you're gonna get that,
you're gonna not hire Americans and you're gonna sell the cars. Now,
We're gonna put a one tower for every single car
that comes across the line, and you're not gonna be
able to sell those because if I get elected, Now,
(02:17):
if I don't get elected, it's gonna be a blood
bath for the whole that's gonna be the least of it.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's gonna be a blood bath for the country that'll
be the least of it. The best shine, the best shine,
the best shined.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Shine.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Explosive interview coming up with Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher in
just a few moments. Eddie Gallagher was imprisoned, was jailed,
was accused of killing Isis. That's why he was sent
to Iraq. Was being you used in a terrible, terrible
political situation, President Trump, came out in favor of Eddie
(03:08):
Gallagher and some folks well. President Trump came out in
favor of Eddie Gallagher and said he needs to be
released pending his trial. He deserves a fair trial or
actions conducted in war. He thought Dan Crenshaw would help him,
(03:29):
he says. Dan Crenshaw worked behind the scenes. A number
of members of Congress, he says, told him that Crenshaw
tried to keep him in jail before the trial. He
later won't meet with Dan Crenshaw. Grenshaw admitted that as
a video of that as well, and he's mad about it.
He was he was in danger of going to prison
(03:51):
for life for actions taken while he was in war.
And it turns out the prosecutor who prosecuted him was
stripped of all of his medals, which is the worst
punishment you can get as a military attorney in such
a case. And the whole case fell apart, and it
(04:14):
turns out that Eddie Gallagher was caught up in something
that was far beyond him, forces, far beyond him. But
what Dan Crenshaw did to him, he says, is as
awful as you can possibly imagine, the sense of betrayal
of what he did. He's going to tell his story
coming up in just a few minutes. And what's interesting
(04:38):
is it's part of a pattern. David Goggins one of
the very few black Navy seals I've ever heard of
who ends every YouTube video with stay hard, get out there,
Attack life. He was hired by the owner of the
(05:00):
Atlanta Hawks come and live with him for a month
and toughing up his family, and the guy wrote a book.
Jesse Ittzler wrote a book about that experience and how
the strength of character and discipline of David Goggins was
something he had never witnessed in his life before. David Goggins,
who is a walking Navy Seal recruitment ad because of
(05:24):
the things he's overcome and his attitude for life. You
can do anything if you have the grit and determination
to do it. David Goggins was insulted by Dan Crenshaw,
who said he's not really a seal. He doesn't do
seal stuff. He's just talking about running fifty miles and stuff.
Goggins shredded him. It's all online. You can see it
(05:46):
for yourself. Okay, so there's your second Navy seal that
Crenshaw Cringeshaw feels some need to tear down so that
he can be the only Navy seal. I guess in
public life than there's Sean Ryan. One of the biggest
podcasts in the world. Sean Ryan was asking questions, Hey,
(06:09):
is Dan Crenshaw insider trading? Is he trading stocks on
information that he gains as a member of Congress. He
asked the question. Crenshaw's lawyers did exactly what they did
to me. They sent him a cease and assist. We're
gonna sue you. We're gonna sue you. Don't talk about Dan.
We're going to sue you. Sean Ryan said, fine, sue me.
(06:36):
There is your third Navy seal that Dan Crenshaw can't
get along with. Again, he fights with everyone, and it's
always some sense of betrayal, some sense of Weasley behavior.
Tucker Carlson asked questions about Dan Crenshaw a number of questions.
(06:59):
He asked questions about Crenshaw in Mexico, and it has
been reported and alleged that Crenshaw was drunk there and
was told that he wouldn't be allowed on a diplomatic
mission for a month. We can't ever seem to get
an answer out of congressional leadership out of it. Not
surprising the Republicans are going to protect one of their
own as to was he crass and crewed and drunk
(07:21):
and behaved in such a manner? Imagine this. If you're
a congressman, you already have a pretty wide latitude. Did
he behave so? I don't know, but there's videos about it.
There's a lot of people talking about it, and Sean
Ryan talked about a number of things, asking about whether
he conducted insider trading. That's what Martha Stewart went to
(07:42):
prison for one time. There are allegations with regard to Crenshaw. Yeah,
I tightened up my language a little. Sure, I will
do that. I will do that. You're going to run
and get a bunch of lawyers. I know little thing
or two myself. Then Tucker Carlson asked questions about him,
(08:06):
and he tells a reporter on a hot mic, I'm
gonna kill that if I ever see that man, I'm
gonna kill him. What in a wall? Anyway? Eddie Gallagher
will be our guest coming up.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Hey, this is Tracy Bird, and I tip my hand
to the keeper the stone.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And the salt.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I want you to imagine in your life. This isn't
a screenplay, this isn't a stage production, this isn't a
sporting performance. I want you to imagine in your life,
whether you are a veteran or not, that you are
doing the most selfless thing you've ever done in your life,
feeling righteous about it, and in that process you are
(08:51):
betrayed and imprisoned. You're put in a jail cell nine
months until a trial where you will serve for life.
You don't need to be a Navy sealed to understand
the concept that these guys are supposed to have a
very deep bond. There is a member of the US
Congress who's just been elected that year, it's twenty nineteen,
(09:15):
and you're hearing that he's going to help you, and
you come to find out that not only did he
not help your case, that when fifty members of Congress
signed a letter when the President supported your case, fifty
members of Congress five zero signed a letter for you
to be released so that you could prepare for trial.
You find out, as Eddie Gallagher did, that Dan Crenshaw
(09:39):
was going to those members and telling them don't support him.
It's a fascinating video about all this online. You can
see all of this. Just look up Eddie gllaher Dan Crenshaw.
It's out there. There's a lot of people, especially in
the special ops communities, but not only in a lot
of people in the political community is talking about this.
And the video is I forget who the person is.
(10:02):
He asked Dan Crenshaw, Well, well, why don't you sit
down with Eddie Gallagher and talk this out? Man demand
and Crenshall says, what is there to say? Well, yeah,
it feels like you helped try to keep him in
prison for life and Crenshaw and the interviewer says, oop,
of all, I can't remember the guy's name. He says,
(10:25):
the veteran community hates you. Crenshaw's response is not everyone
in the veteran community. Maybe the vet bros. Wow, So,
so you you fought with David Goggins because you don't
think he's Navy seal enough. You fought with John Ryan
because he asked a question about the stock trades You
(10:45):
made fair game by the way, the Free press asked
you about it, and you dropped an F bomb and said, okay,
so what we just won't make any money? Man? We don't.
We don't make very much money. Whoa WHOA dude? Is
that when you went to Congress? Tucker Carlson questioned him,
and he tells a reporter when he thinks to Mike
is offifver to cutch him, I'll kill him. He goes
(11:08):
to a town hall back in the district where a
little girl says, you referred to Jesus Christ as a
superman archetype, and he said, don't you question my faith
and the audience was blown away. There is Dan Crenshaw
that when people see they realize this guy is not
who I thought he was. This is not the guy
I campaigned very hard for, and I have a responsibility
(11:31):
as to a lot of other people. And they felt
it to stand up and say he shouldn't go back
to Congress. We just happened to have the fortunate situation
that we're not trying to elect a Ham Sandwich. Steve
Toath will make a great congressman. This is a this
is a once in a generation opportunity to show a
member of Congress and every other member of Congress who's watching,
you can't behave that way and keep getting re elected
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just because you have all the money in the establishment.
Eddie Gallagher is that man who was imprisoned, who found
himself in that situation. I heard one special opscod doing
a podcast where he said, of Eddie Gagher, my only
disagreement with Eddie Gllagher is I can't imagine how he
doesn't take more drastic actions. He's a more controlled man
than I am. Welcome to the program at A Gagher. Hey,
(12:14):
thank you for having me, folks. I'm going to tell
you this story is so explosive it will blow your mind.
You won't be able to believe that this actually happened. Eddie.
Let's start from I'm going to work in a reverse
linear fashion because I want to get to your background
and I want to get to all the ways that
you ended up where you were. But let's assume, for
somebody that's about to walk in the office, you're in jail.
You've been accused of of killing a little girl and
(12:35):
an old man on Father's Day. Isis perhaps did that?
And you're sitting in jail rotting, not able to prepare
for your trial, and you're thinking that Dan Crenshaw will
help you, and then what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, so you're correct on that I was, yeah, sitting
in prison facing those charges, and at that time, my
wife Andrea and my brother Shan were drastically taking measures
to get people to notice what was going on. They
were going to Congress, talking to every congressman that they could,
at least my brother was at the time. In One
of the congressmen names that kept coming up, obviously was
Dan Crenshaw because he was a newly minted congressman and
(13:09):
he came from the same community as I did. So
when my brother went to him and asked if he
would support he got no answer the first couple of times,
and he kept going back and finally Dan told him, hey,
I'll let me look into it. I'll see what I
can do, which is a valid answer, right especially with
the charges that I was facing. Would if I was
a congressman, I want to do a little digging in myself,
(13:29):
and obviously what you stated earlier, Yes, Eventually we ended
up getting fifty congressmen to sign a letter to release
me from prison so I could properly prepare for trial
because at the time, while I was locked up, I
was not afforded any of the rights a serviceman.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
My service numbers.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Should be awarded, which is being able to talk to
my lawyers, getting medical visits, just simple stuff like that.
All that was taken from me. So these fifty congressmen
signed on to a letter to get me released from prison.
Dan Crenshaw would not sign that letter. Instead, he wrote
his own letter saying that I belonged in prison to
keep me in prison, but just to have afford me
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to write that I deserve, which is talk to my lawyers.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He didn't believe you would ever know about that letter.
Did he say that again? Did he believe that? You
know what? I'll ask you this question coming up in
just a moment. Edie allaghery is our guest the Michael
Berry Show. While in war, he got caught up in
some really, really nasty politics. We've seen this happen before,
and he would eventually go to trial and he would
(14:31):
be acquitted. It was determined that he was not guilty,
but it put him through hell. That's not why we're
talking to him. We're talking to him because the last
thing you would expect is another guy from the teams,
another Navy seal would betray you. And he says, that's
exactly what happened. Eddie gallaghery fifty members of Congress wrote
(14:52):
a letter asking that you'd be released so that you
could prepare for your trial where you were facing life
in prison. And Dan Krinsch did not. He wrote his
own letter. Did he know did he expect that you
would find out about that letter? Was it done in secrecy? No,
it was not done in secrecy.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
As a matter of fact, when we found out, when
my wife and brother found out he was writing that
second letter, they messaged him and said, please do not
do this letter. Do not send it in because it's
distracting from the other letter the other fifty congressman signed,
and Dan did not listen to them. He did it anyways,
submitted it and it ended up not working. The original
(15:32):
letter of the fifty congressman signed worked. I was released
from prison, and at that point we decided to write
Dan Crenshaw off. We were like, we're no longer going
to ask him for help, and so we continued on,
and like you said, I went to trial, was acquitted
of all charges, and it wasn't until after I had retired.
We went to Congress to thank the fifty congressman for
(15:53):
signing that letter, and while I was there, I was
pulled aside by numerous Congressman Matt Gates, Ralph Norman, Louis Gohmert,
and they all expressed concern. They said, hey, we want
to let you know that Dan Crenshaw was actively working
against you. That they told he was telling other congressmen
to butt out that it was not their community, it
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was his, and that he would handle it and that
I belonged in prison. And so when I heard that
from these congressmen, that's when my wife and I talked
about it, and I said, should we let people know
that this happened. And even then we didn't put anything
out about it. We're like, you know what, he's a politician.
We didn't expect anything less really, even though he comes
(16:34):
from our community, and we'll just carry on with our lives.
And it wasn't until a couple of years later when
he started badmouthing me on two other seals, one being
David Goggins. He was messaging David Goggins and saying all
sorts of stuff about me, and David Goggins sent me
that message, and that's when my wife and I decided,
(16:55):
you know what, we need to do a video and
just let people know what Dan's true character is.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's been alleged that he was messaging David Goggins positively
about liking him and thinking he's great, and then all
the while also went and trash gate David Goggins as well,
saying I don't see that he's a real seal. He
just talks about Ran the sense of betrayal. And then
there is the Sean Ryan issue where Sean Ryan asked
(17:23):
questions which we should do of Dan Crenshaw's behavior, and
then he has his lawyers cease and assist. I also
got a cease and assist over the same issue, and
Sean Ryan said that either Sean Ryan or his lawyer
spoke with Grenshaw's lawyers and they said they said, Sean
Ryan or his lawyers said, what are you doing with
these lawsuits? This is ridiculous. They said, Oh, we don't
(17:45):
actually sue anybody. We just try to intimidate them to
stop talking about Dan. This pattern continues again and again
and again. You know, your issue was twenty nineteen, he
was a new congressman, but this issue has continued throughout
the course of his time. Eddie Gallagher, I want to
go back to your case that was twenty nineteen. I
saw an interview that you did. It was a YouTube,
(18:06):
some video you were talking about. You were at an
event and you're walking down the hallway and you spot
him coming down the hallway and he drops his head
and avoids averts your eye. He cannot make eye contact
with you, he cannot speak to you. Can you tell
that story? Sure?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah. It wasn't too long after I retired. And actually
this was after I had already found out that Dan
was working against me, when the accomplishman told me, and
I saw him at a Turning Point USA event in
the morning, and I honestly just wanted to go up
and talk to him and find out why he took
the actions that he did. Just team got a team guy.
(18:43):
But as soon as he saw me, he put his
head down and scurried right past me as fast as
he could with his little entourage. And that was the
first time I tried to actually establish some kind of
communications with him to find out why he was doing
the things he did. I've over the past five years,
I've given ample opportunity to talk to him behind closed
doors publicly whatever he wanted to do, just to hash
(19:06):
things out, and each and every time that it is offered,
he instead of actually talking to me, he goes and
bad mouths me and some other former fashion I have
a litany of text messages from other companies friends that
I have, or Dan reaches out to them telling them
that they're not allowed to talk to me, that they
should not be working with me or be friends with me.
(19:28):
I mean, it gets that petty, and so we've never
I've never had the chance to sit down with him
and talk face to face. By what I do think
is kind of funny, Mike. Is that just the other day,
when Steve Toth announced that I would be coming out
to Dan's district to speak the truth about what his
you know, his character flaws. I received a letter in
(19:50):
the mail two days before I flew out here, and
it was from Dan, the first time he's ever reached out.
And in that letter there is no accountability. It is
all that, oh, this has been a big miscommunication and
that you don't really understand what I was trying to do.
You know, Dan, I'll say this, out of all the
(20:12):
allegations that have come across these past five years, when
you've brought it up with Sean Ryan Tuckercarls and all
these things.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, no man is perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Everybody makes mistakes, but the inability to hold yourself accountable
is a huge character flaw. And I can tell you know,
you can look at and look in the past any
man with power, if you see his fall, it's usually
due to one thing, and that's the inability to control
one's ego. And that's what we have with Dan Crenshaw.
Pride go with before a fall. There is a level
of hubris and pride and arrogance and anger that are
(20:45):
the combustible mix of Cringshaw that make him such a
troubling He's also duplicitous.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He's two faces. I want to go back the idea.
You know, he could have chosen not to help you,
and that would have been dirty. But he didn't just
choose not to help you. You said you learned from
credible sources other members of Congress that he was working
to keep you in jail. This isn't whether you would
be punished for what you were accused of. We'll get
(21:11):
to that. You you were acquitted that the trial, the
prosecutors were stripped of their medals. This was a very
political case, one of the Navy seals that was supposed
to be the witness breaks down on trial. All of
that aside, and he knew all that he had to
because as a member of Congress and a Navy seal,
he could have called the Department of Defense and gotten
a briefing on this. And yet he chose not only
to not get involved, but to actively get involved to
(21:34):
try to ruin you. This is not being dramatic here.
This is literally trying to ruin you.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, And you know, I think that's that's politics in
a nutshell right there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh, I know, I disagree, Eddie. I've known a lot
of politicians. I've known a lot of politicis. This is
dirty on a level. I really don't know how you
keep your cool. You are a much better man than
I ever could be.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I got I pray every day for patients and that's
what God gives me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's amazing. It's amazing. Eddie Gallagher and I will be
together tonight at a Steve Toath event. You can go
to Steve to Tth's campaign website to find out where
and the time more with our guest Eddie Gallagher, Navy
Seal Kmrene. He's the Michael Barry Show. Eddie Gallagher is
known as is what is known as a lifer, having
(22:27):
spent not just one tour one term. He served in Iraq,
he served in Afghanistan. He has multiple trainings. He went
to the United States Marine Corps Scout Sniper School. He
became a seal after graduating. Buds where's the special warfare
insignia two bronze stars. This guy's a hero within the military.
(22:49):
They don't like that term. And to find out that
you were betrayed, as he says he was, by Dan Crenshaw,
a guy parading around in Congress as a war or
a veteran who seems to fight with everybody, every other
Navy seal than anyone else. I can't imagine. And I
admire the fact that through prayer you've been able to
(23:10):
retain this sense of of this sense of calm. It's
it's powerful. I read that your nickname is Blade. Is
that true?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, that's one of the nicknames.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Do you care to share the others? Eddie Gallagher, share
the story of how how I got that name? No,
you said that's one of the names. Do you have
other nicknames that we need to know about?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh fast, Eddie is the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Okay, all right, yeah, sure, tell the story about how
you came to be known as as Blade.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Actually that that story is probably better not told publicly,
but I'll just know.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What Yeah, yeah, let's let's do that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
A long time ago.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I will be with Eddie Gallagher tonight at a Steve
Toaf campaign event. Both of us believe in this cause
and that's why we're there. You can go to the
Steve Toath campaign online find out where it is. It
may be sold out. This the only reason. I say
maybe at capacity, So that's the only reason I'm sending
you there. They get rather than giving the day. How
did you get involved with Steve Toath, who, by the way,
I've known for many years, long before he ran for Congress,
(24:13):
and know him to be a good, decent, honorable, honest man.
And not only is he an alternative to Crenshaw, I
would support him if it was an open seat. I
think he's that type of man. But how did you
get involved with him? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So I through a mutual friend of ours, Chad Robershaw,
had told me that Steve Toath was running against Dan,
or deciding to run against Dan. So we had connected
over the phone, and I had invited him out to
come on my podcast in Florida because I really wanted
to get to know the man who was going to
be running against Dan. I was excited that someone was
running against him, but I wanted to know where Steve
(24:49):
stood on his value and beliefs. And so I got
to spend time with him and his lovely wife for
a couple of days, and I share your same thoughts.
He's just a good human being. He's a man who
stands behind his values and beliefs and does not budge
on them. And so when I after the first couple
of days of hanging out with him, I couldn't have
been more excited that he was a man who was
(25:10):
going to replace Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
When when you see Dan Crinshaw in public, parading around
as you know, war hero, warmonger, all of these things,
does that bother you or have you moved on? How
do you? How do you view that?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
No, anything Dan does does not really bother me. You know,
It's what bothers me is the fact that he is
representing not only the Seal community, but he's representing his
constituents in such a manner to where he does not
like we talked about earlier take accountability for his mistakes,
you know, and I think just you know, I think
(25:49):
you admitted it, and I think a lot of other people.
You know, we had high expectations for Dan when he
came into office, because he came from the seal background,
because he sacrificed for this country. But you know, we
do not measure a leader by yesterday's valor while ignoring
his decisions today. So you know, we should judge him
by the direction he is taking us now, and by
the battles that he chooses now, and by whether his
(26:11):
actions today still reflect the values he asked us to trust.
And I think, you know, if the past five years
has shown us anything that Dan does not embody the
values that he ran on. He's continually making mistakes and
continually not holding himself accountable for it. He's letting his
ego get the better of him. And the oath we
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owe to our country is not to a man's history,
but to our future. And when a man's leaders, when
a leader's present conduct no longer earns that trust, the
hole response is not loyalty, it's accountability.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
He said a lot. What made you want to serve?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I think it's a It's brought into me pretty much
every every male in my and my family has served,
and so you know, I grew up an omni brat.
I was around it. My dad was in the army
for twenty twenty four years, and I think it was
just something that in our family it looks at as
a thing of honor. You should serve your country. If
you want to live in this country, you should serve
(27:10):
it in some manner so you can earn your spot here.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And you did just about everything, and you've been honored
with just about every merit. When you look back on
your service, obviously some awful things were done to you.
And I've seen this happen with guys who serve in
the politics behind it. Did that sour your sense of
service that you had to go through that living hell?
(27:37):
Not one bit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I've been asked that question numerous times before. No, I
don't regret ever signing up to serve my country. As
a matter of fact, I have My oldest son is
in the Marine Corps right now. He's serving this country,
and my youngest is starting to think about it. You know,
what happened to me is not you know, due to
the military it's just due to bad leaders that were
put in place, and that's it. And you can get
(28:00):
that in any organization.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've seen that happen with police officers who were wronged.
I've seen that happen in many, many capacities where good
men and women were wronged by bad people while doing
good work for the best of intentions. Dan Crenshaw got
involved to try to keep you in jail, you say,
and before your trial where you were at risk of
serving life in a case where others changed their testimony,
(28:25):
broke down on trial on the stand and said no, no,
he didn't do anything wrong. The prosecutor was reprimanded after all.
That's awful what you went through. One of the things
that has been alleged out of all of this is
that President Trump joined with the fifty members of Congress
who were looking for your case. We're looking for you
to be released so you could prepare for the trial.
Who found your case to be one that deserved more attention,
(28:49):
and that Crenshaw perhaps his hatred of Trump was the
reason that he was involved. On the other side, do
you think there's anything to that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I can't say for certain that that's why he created
that second letter was his hatred for Trump. What I
truly believe is that Dan Crenshaw is an institutionalist and
he was going to do whatever the Institution of Naval
Special Warfare was doing at that time. And at that time,
the leadership of Naval SCHUS Special Warfare was targeting me
and wanting to put me away for life, and so Dan,
(29:22):
I believe, was talking to them and just doing their bidding.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's interesting, isn't it How institutions like this find people
like you expendable, necessary, critical until the moment that you're
expendable and useful for another end. And yet there's always
a guy like a Crenshaw willing to serve that interest
for his own. It's a bad movie plot. Let me
(29:46):
crap on this guy and ruin his life, because then
I'll win favor with the institution. Eddie Gallagher, I look
forward to spending some time with you this evening on
behalf of Steve Toth and shaking your hand and thanking
you for your service good sir, So thank you for
having me on
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