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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh yes, yes, indeed it is Friday, and we are
all here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm here and you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm glad you're here. I look forward to Fridays, my
favorite show of the week.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
IY Heavy Day, heavy day.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Waity War, Lindy, she the way he loved. Habit or
happy day.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Or happy day when those walls.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
At Winny War.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Woult you those war?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
She's the way he loved.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
It's a habit day, a happy day or a happy
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day happy.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Winter of war?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oh whinny wars, Winter of wars.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Three years away? He al happy day day heavy d
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God have you de?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Happy day? God habit when those wall o waity war,
when those wars three years away?
Speaker 9 (04:50):
He is love.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
The happy day? Oh long?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Something about that song I don't remember, Ramon, Do you
remember why we first used that? You know, our Friday
drive home song by BlackBerry Smoke good one coming on.
I retell these stories and you'll have to forgive me.
(05:39):
I used to have a next door neighbor. He was
across the street named Peter Roussel. A lot of people
called him Pete. I called him Peter. But Peter Roussel
was the assistant Press secretary in the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And he was brought up by James A.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Baker the third and he worked for a guy named
Larry Speaks, and who would famously answer the phone when speaks,
And so the idea was.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He was telling you to talk, but he was really
answering his last name.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And Peter used to laugh because Peter had a PR firm,
and he had all these great stories of serving with
Jim Baker and George H. W. Bush and Reagan and
you know when Reagan was shot, or when he was
in the back seat with Sander Day O'Connor taking her
to d C. She was gonna be the first woman
to serve on the US Supreme Court. And it came
over the radio and he said she was a Superior
(06:30):
Court justice at the time in Arizona, and said, can
I give you a hug?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Would that be appropriate? And she said, of course.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He said, I want to be the first part to
give you a hug after it's been announcedent. He used
to say that he only had ten or twenty good stories,
and you could just push the button and he'd tell you.
You know that story would play, and then he wouldn't
have to tell it again. But our evening show story
was that my brother Chris told me he had heard
this song. It was by a band called BlackBerry Smoke.
(06:57):
I'd never heard of him. The song was called good
One Coming On.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I ever heard of it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And he said, it'd be a great Friday drive home
for you, great Friday drive home show a song.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I said, Chris, you handled being a police officer. I'll
handle the show.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'll cheer for you and you keep us safe, and
you listen to the show and you enjoy it. But
I don't want your ideas. I don't need any more ideas.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And I didn't listen to the show because I'm a hardhead.
I admit it. I know that doesn't make me look good,
but I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Six months later, some amount of time later, I hear
the song and I don't realize that's the song that
he's told me to listen to, and it's perfect. And
I called him and I said I hate you, And
he said, what else is new? And I said, well,
you don't even know why this time. Why don't you
(07:48):
tell me? Because I heard BlackBerry Smoke Good One Coming On?
Oh really, And it's our new Friday drive home song.
So that's the Friday drive Home song. I don't know
how we came up about Oh Happy Day, but I
can't imagine beginning our Friday morning show without listening, without us.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Listening to that song out there. It's just it's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And I hear people people get mad at me if
I talk over it and don't let the whole thing play.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think to myself, are you serious? You heard
that song from me? And if you've ever heard the Elvis,
he's just he's just banging around. He never actually recorded
that on Oh It's glorious. All right, So the phone
lines we go.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Let's go to Bonnie and then Charlie after that. Bonnie
seven one thousand year on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Go ahead, sweetheart, Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
How are you today?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Fantastic.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
I've enjoyed.
Speaker 10 (08:42):
I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to all of my peers I have.
It's I spent my earth. Celebrated my eighty fifth birthday
a week ago.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh wow, okay, and I had I live.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
I live in Spring and I have five children and
seven grandchildren and soon to be seven great grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh my.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
And we moved to Texas in nineteen seventy three when
Houston was very small, and have watched it evolve over
these fifty three years. And as you probably can hear,
I am not a born and born Texan. Everybody keeps
telling me I still have my Chicago accent.
Speaker 11 (09:30):
What you do you do.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
That?
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Well? I don't think so, but I can't after all
these years. Obviously it's not going to go away.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So what brought out of Texas? Bonnie?
Speaker 9 (09:43):
My husband worked for Procter and Gamble and got transferred here.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, is he still alive?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
No, I'm sorry to say. He passed away just about
a year ago and we had been married just shy
of sixty six years.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh wow, Wow, that's hard.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, well, it's been incredibly difficult. Not that I wouldn't
wish it on anybody.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
I started dating him when I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Oh wow. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And what's the hardest thing about about him not being
there every day? That you never even considered? Because a
lot of times there's layers to these things. What's one
of those that you go, I never thought about this.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
Somebody to listen to you now, not that he's not
that he tell you a funny story I have. This
may sound gruesome, but anyway, he was cremated and I
have his ashes right here. Okay. And so one day
my son was here and I was telling him that
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I was talking to his father because I was mad
about something, and so I was just like I would
if he was sitting right here, and I but I said,
he never says anything back to me. And my son
looks at me, he says, mother, he never did. He
never listened to you anyway, So what's the difference, you know?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But anyway that you pardon me, he's still there listening
to you.
Speaker 9 (11:17):
He's listening to me, and sometimes he gets an earful
But no I talk. I talk to him every day.
I say good night to him, I say good morning
to him. I just I mean, when you've talked to
somebody for all those years, why would I not talk
to him, you know? And but you know what else
is the other thing is a hug. And I don't
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do Facebook.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I don't do that other than I read.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
I read it because I find it interesting. But there's
several widows support groups that I read, and that is
one of the major things that widows think or really
is the hug and you just.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't ever think about it.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
And I get my kids, me and my grandchather everything,
but it's not the same. But no, you just get
too used to being with you know, good all the
good times in the bad times. But uh no, it's
a it was very quick and not anticipated. And uh no,
we had we had a lot of good times together
and uh uh he he was a very special person.
(12:23):
But uh no, I've got my I've got my five kids,
three of them live here in Houston, one lives in
Ohio and one lives in Virginia. Four girls and my
son who is your age. Actually you're just a couple
of months apart. And so when I listened to you,
it reminds me your your your stories of growing up
(12:44):
reminds me of his two although he was only three
years old when we moved here. But uh anyway, uh no,
enjoy listening to you. Uh I was, and I again,
and I was. It is national or not Nashville. It
is white Wine Day. So that lady that called, I
thought crumb, I wonder if she realizes that it is
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National white wine Day.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There you go, she's got to switch over.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Yeah, And I find it interesting that lady complaining about
the ingredients in Bluebell ice cream? Well, that's how much
ice cream are you going to eat? To kill you
if you're gonna worry about what the ingredients in Bluebell
or buyers or whomever you're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I find that a lot of folks when they
get a little older, it's a natural tendency, they worry
a lot. And my mother used to worry and I
try to make her not worry. And I realized, you know,
that's just it just goes with the territory.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It just does.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
I have found worrying gets me absolutely nowhere right, and
it wears me down. And I mean, I've been like
this most of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And my husband was.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
He was a worrier, so I guess I was. I thought,
why would I be?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Said good, Ditary?
Speaker 9 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, but Nonnie, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Have been wonderful. You had me for Clint there for
a minute, but but you made me laugh and we
came back out of it. I'm so glad you called.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Charlie. You're on the Michael Berry Show. What say you?
Speaker 12 (14:18):
Well, you were a Clint?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I was?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I was.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
I was too.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I'm that one was born in that one had me.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
I was born on December twenty fourth, nineteen forty four,
in Norfolk, Virginia, and I lived in Houston from sixty
nine to eighty. Oh, well, and lived and I was
single in Houston in the seventies, which I considered the
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heyday of Houston and had a great time. I'm going
to be eighty two in December, and I say it's
good cigars and quality single malt Scotch, quality bourbon.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh wow, that's good there every day.
Speaker 12 (15:09):
Well, yeah, I'm living in the grange, living a drink.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, that's beautiful out there. I really I really like
Fayette County. I really like that part of the state
and that part of the country. It is, of course
a lot of people have figured that out, but it's
it's good clean living.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I like the people.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I like the old Czech communities and the old German communities,
and I like a lot of the retirees that have
left Houston for a little slower pace. And and that generation,
your generation of people that work hard and they're honest
and honorable, and they wave when you pass them on
a country road, and they open.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
The doors for the ladies and and they're.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Good customers and good friends and good neighbors.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's that's, that's just a life. Well, Charlie, thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm glad to hear from you, and I'm glad to
know you and a lot of folks out they're like
you our listening.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
That's a good reminder for me. Who was next for
holiday sugar?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Being downroad? Of Don?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Welcome hottie, oh Don?
And how old are you?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sir? Ninety one? My birthday is always eighteen, so I'll
be ninety two in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, you got one coming up? Do you have anything
special plan?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Well on my birthday? My usual holidays with relatives and
frankly if we had a big blast for my wife's
ninetieth birthday and Breckinridge, Colorado on July the fourth, so
we're not going to have a birthday get together. We'll
be sitting with my daughter's horses and donkeys and dogs
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and cats and so forth over near bash Drop when
my birthday happened, So it'll be a quiet birthday. But
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So you were born in thirty five, thirty four, thirty
four ocase you'll be ninety two.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, right on, yeah, right right, that's fantastic. Are you
a lifelong Texan?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, yeah, I and all four of my kids were
born in Texas and my wife that we've lived, man,
we've lived in Texas and Washington State, Oklahoma, Toronto, or
Crystal Lake, Illinois. And now we're in Cyprus and and
coast crossing Hla and Cyprus. Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, which is wonderful, happy place.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's a happy place to live, I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, No, it's beautiful. I've been out there. A friend
of mine, Doub Miller, used to live out there. It's
a wonderful, wonderful community. Although that area has really blown up.
The rooftops brought the retail, brought the rooftops brought the retail.
There's a lot of people and businesses that have moved
out there. You said your wife is ninety How long
have y'all been married?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Seveny years?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know you just don't hear that anymore because you
had to start early and live long to get to
do it.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And that is that is what we did.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Both, yes, you did, and what took you on all
these travels?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Well, my professional pursuits. I attended after high school in
little town called Bancady down in South Texas. I attended
Texas A and m got a BS degree in agriculture,
range and forestry technically and anticipate going into the business
of being involved in forestry management or range management. And
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later I loved what I was doing, but I just
didn't make enough money to coming by then we had
two or three kids, and more and more apparent that
we need more money. So civil service at that time
was not a high paid job. So I began looking
and I moved out of the saw conformation service in Claude, Texas,
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and moved to Southeastern Oklahoma near Antler's, Oklahoma, and managed
the thirty thousand acre range for hopewhile that didn't work
because of some external factors that I couldn't control. And
then we moved to Washington State managed the racehorse situation
up there. And then I came back to Texas and
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I had a next door neighbor who worked for Motorola,
and when I started telling him I was looking for
a job, he said, oh, my goodness, I can't believe
you're available. He introduced me to the right people in
Monroolla and the next day I got a phone call
and went on the playroll that day and that's I
worked for Montola for like thirty years, mainly in the
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commun unications. A big part of it was international management
salesforce to the patroying industry around the world. Wonderful job.
I had an incredible career and Monolla was at its
zenith and it went well. And when I was going
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to retire in nineteen ninety nine, the Motrolla was executing
what they call a VSP, which a volunteer service program,
and they made some cash offers to people who would
retire early. And I was like sixty four, and I
took it and walked away and moved, well, not immediately,
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but ended up in Cyprus, Texas. So it's been a whirlwind.
We've lived in a lot of different houses, lot of
different places. The kids got exposure to cultures of West
Texas and eastern Oklahoma, which are dramatically different, and then
everywhere we live, the kids seem to thrive and our
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family's colwell, I'm very very far s to I have
four kids and all of them are so some of
them retiring. Now you know, you're getting old, when your
kids start retiring, right, they're so involved with us and
we're involved with them.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Done.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm always I'm always interested when someone gets up into
their nineties and higher and even their own kids are old, right,
you know, I've known people that they'll be mid nineties
and their kids are our high seventies, and you think, man,
even their own kids are old.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's a blessing to get to give, to get to
live that long.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But sometimes it can be tough because I've known of
people to lose their kids to what is not a
young age, and the parent just keeps on living. And
you know, these are these are the realities of longevity.
It's not all butterflies and rainbows.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Absolutely truly, like what I think you need to live
for today, I think you need to stay involved, you
need to stay active. My cliches are stay in motion,
which I mean physically, emotionally, intellectually. And I volunteer for
the landscape operations for our subdivision, and I've done that
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for over twenty years now, and I take a lot
of pride in the fact that our community has a
great reputation and people that live there seem to enjoy
what they're or they're living. So yeah, so you're right
when the kids start retiring. And I've got my eldest
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daughters married to a fellow who worked for Tnaco Phillips
for a long number of years and they've retired and
they live in Fort College to Colorado and then sand
Begue to Land in Mexico. And then I've got a
daughter who lives bast droves for bpay and remediation. Three
(23:04):
of our four kids have college degrees, and frankfully, I'm
kind of proud the fact that nobody resided or nobody
completed their education with a debt. We paid what they
could pay by their old efforts, and we paid the rest,
and when they got a degree, they walked out debt free.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So pretty pleasure that, you know, don you just said
and did something that is a generational thing that you
don't see much of anymore. When I talk to folks
that are your age into their nineties, they talk about
they have pride in their children and education and career
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and military service and parenting of their kids, and that
their kids who their kids are married to. That's an
old fashioned notion, and I think somewhere along the way
parent has decided that that was none of their business
who their kid married and what their kid did.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I think that we've seen the result of it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We have not talked enough about Zora Mumdani, the Muslim
immigrant socialist mayor of New York. Let's go back to
twenty nineteen. Here he is describing his experience growing up
Muslim in New York. On September eleventh, before he even
knew what had happened, his teacher pulled him and a
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Muslim classmate out of class to warn them that they
might be bullied. Here is Zora Mumdani talking about how
awful it's been for him growing up Muslim in New York,
and the subtle implication is you Christians and Jews and
white people, you're going to pay for this.
Speaker 14 (24:49):
There's still, you know, this illusion, and it's partially a
result of settler colonialism, that all of us can become
New Yorkers, that all of us can can settle into
the city. And yet there would be these moments where
I be reminded by someone whose intent was to tell
me that you do not belong. And one of those
first moments was on nine to eleven, when before I
knew what had happened. My teacher had pulled me and
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a Muslim classmate of mine out of the class and
told us that something has happened and you may be bullied,
and I want you to tell me if that happens.
And frankly, I was lucky because most Muslim students in
the city were not given that kind of care from
their teachers. And yet in that moment, I realized that
I was not simply another classmate in a middle school.
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I was distinct and there was a marker of that
distinction on me. And it was something that I would
be reminded of again and again. Is something when we
came back from a trip abroad, being pulled aside a
JFK by immigration agents in a double marrid room, sitting
me down on my own while my family was outside,
and asking me if I had just attended a terrorist
training camp and if I had intentions of attacking this country.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And if so, what were those plans.
Speaker 14 (25:57):
And it's something that has continued in the time since,
where a few months ago I went with a client
of mine to a bankruptcy court and as we're going
into the court, the security guard takes me aside and
pass me down with additional care and asks me multiple
times if I have any weapons of mass destruction on me.
And in these moments, the sense of not knowing where
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home is, you know, they're amplified by what I would
see around me.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know this hearkens back to a Norm MacDonald joke,
but late great Norm MacDonald. Norm McDonald had a joke
where he has a liberal comedian on and he tells
the joke as he would often do, that you don't
realize that you're the butt of the joke because you're
also the recipient of the joke. And he says that
if a bunch of Muslims, I mean, if Muslims were
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to bomb America and kill thousands or millions of Americans,
he's really worried that people will be mad at Muslims.
And she goes, yeah, that's right, and he proves the
absurdity this point without ever needing to say, see, I
told you so.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Listen to this joke. Well, I can't say, I.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Can't say my friend's name, but he said his biggest
fear is that Isis or some terrorist group like that
will get a hold of a dirty bomb and exploited
over a major city within the United States and kill
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tens of millions of people, because then the blowback against
innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yes, that's true, that's true. Let's do some joke.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Then we've got this crazy woman, and she is certifiably crazy.
She's been locked up before, she's been in a nuthhouse.
Her name is Francesca Holm. She's a Democrat, Socialist of
America sympathizer. She's running for governor of Wisconsin. Coming out
of nowhere. She ran a restaurant that she ran into
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the ground. Her parents had to pay off the thirty
thousand dollars debt. But all of a sudden she's going
to be governor. And a bunch of people who've been
convinced by their public school teachers that socialism is great
or going.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, socialism, check it out.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
In Venezuela, tell a Cuban that a reporter, she says
that she wants the endorsement or she loves.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Illin Omar, that's her inspiration.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And a reporter asks why she wants the endorsement of
someone who's not from Wisconsin. Ilhan Omar is from Minnesota,
and she says, ilhan Omar shows what it looks like
to lead with moral conviction and courage. Two strong women
of color fighting for everyone. But they're not fighting for everyone.
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They're fighting for non white people against white people, and
wi white people better wake up.
Speaker 15 (29:02):
Talk about why it's important for you to have the
backing of such a polarizing figure, even though she's not
from your state. Why does this matter to you to
have her there and why is she important to your race?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
The congresswoman has done a phenomenal job of showing what
it looks like to lead with moral conviction and courage.
I'm deeply inspired by the fact that the issues that
she's championing for human rights, for childcare, for ensuring paid lead.
These are things that Americans cared about all across the country,
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and when people are polarizing not the issues, but manufacturing
lives about her, I think that it's important that our
women and girls and kids all across the country see
two strong women of color come together fighting for everyone's rights.
Doesn't matter what your background, your zip code, or what
your faith may be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And then Dana Perino asks Francesca Holme why people should
take caret her word when she says defund the police, Like,
do you really mean it, She says, as a Democrat socialist,
what that means is putting working class people first. Francesca Home,
(30:16):
Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate says, no money for the cops, which
means no police force.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Do you mean that, yeah, putting working people first. They
just give her phrases. This is exactly what they did
with AOC. They just give them phrases and they spout
it out.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Why shouldn't people take you at your word when you
say that you want to defund the police and go
towards abolishing it.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Danna, First of all, I have to say thank you
so much for featuring my home state in your novel,
and I don't need that as a As a democratic socialist,
what that means is that I would like to put
working class people first over.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now defunding a police, working class people first.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Chris rab is a Democrat state rap from Pennsylvania. At
a Democrat Socialist of America conference in Chicago, the weekend
agenda was mass action to build a general strike, organizing
to abolish ice, working to free Palestine, and the word
comrade throughout.
Speaker 16 (31:18):
I noted that in Chicago this weekend, the program includes
the following using mass action to build a general strike,
organizing to abolish ice, working to free Palestine and oppose Israel.
I also read use of the word comrade in the
agenda and wonder to myself, aren't you writing isn't DSA
essentially writing the GOP's scripts for commercials that we're going
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to see in the fall.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I don't really care what the GOP has in mind.
That is not my focus.
Speaker 15 (31:48):
My focus is to be accountable to the folks who
voted for me, and to earn the support of folks
in the general election.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
And I do have a challenger.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's an independent like you, and I take nothing for granted.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh yes, yes, indeed it is Friday, and we are
all here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm here and you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm glad you're here. I look forward to Fridays, my
favorite show of the week.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
IY Heavy Day, heavy day.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Waity War, Lindy, she the way he loved. Habit or
happy day.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Or happy day when those walls.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
At Winny War.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Woult you those war?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
She's the way he loved.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
It's a habit day, a happy day or a happy
(02:15):
day happy.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Winter of war?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oh whinny wars, Winter of wars.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Three years away? He al happy day day heavy d
(03:17):
God have you de?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Happy day? God habit when those wall o waity war,
when those wars three years away?
Speaker 9 (04:50):
He is love.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
The happy day? Oh long?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Something about that song I don't remember, Ramon, Do you
remember why we first used that? You know, our Friday
drive home song by BlackBerry Smoke good one coming on.
I retell these stories and you'll have to forgive me.
(05:39):
I used to have a next door neighbor. He was
across the street named Peter Roussel. A lot of people
called him Pete. I called him Peter. But Peter Roussel
was the assistant Press secretary in the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And he was brought up by James A.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Baker the third and he worked for a guy named
Larry Speaks, and who would famously answer the phone when speaks,
And so the idea was.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He was telling you to talk, but he was really
answering his last name.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And Peter used to laugh because Peter had a PR firm,
and he had all these great stories of serving with
Jim Baker and George H. W. Bush and Reagan and
you know when Reagan was shot, or when he was
in the back seat with Sander Day O'Connor taking her
to d C. She was gonna be the first woman
to serve on the US Supreme Court. And it came
over the radio and he said she was a Superior
(06:30):
Court justice at the time in Arizona, and said, can
I give you a hug?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Would that be appropriate? And she said, of course.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He said, I want to be the first part to
give you a hug after it's been announcedent. He used
to say that he only had ten or twenty good stories,
and you could just push the button and he'd tell you.
You know that story would play, and then he wouldn't
have to tell it again. But our evening show story
was that my brother Chris told me he had heard
this song. It was by a band called BlackBerry Smoke.
(06:57):
I'd never heard of him. The song was called good
One Coming On.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I ever heard of it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And he said, it'd be a great Friday drive home
for you, great Friday drive home show a song.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I said, Chris, you handled being a police officer. I'll
handle the show.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'll cheer for you and you keep us safe, and
you listen to the show and you enjoy it. But
I don't want your ideas. I don't need any more ideas.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And I didn't listen to the show because I'm a hardhead.
I admit it. I know that doesn't make me look good,
but I'm being honest.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Six months later, some amount of time later, I hear
the song and I don't realize that's the song that
he's told me to listen to, and it's perfect. And
I called him and I said I hate you, And
he said, what else is new? And I said, well,
you don't even know why this time. Why don't you
(07:48):
tell me? Because I heard BlackBerry Smoke Good One Coming On?
Oh really, And it's our new Friday drive home song.
So that's the Friday drive Home song. I don't know
how we came up about Oh Happy Day, but I
can't imagine beginning our Friday morning show without listening, without us.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Listening to that song out there. It's just it's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And I hear people people get mad at me if
I talk over it and don't let the whole thing play.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And I think to myself, are you serious? You heard
that song from me? And if you've ever heard the Elvis,
he's just he's just banging around. He never actually recorded
that on Oh It's glorious. All right, So the phone
lines we go.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Let's go to Bonnie and then Charlie after that. Bonnie
seven one thousand year on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Go ahead, sweetheart, Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
How are you today?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Fantastic.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
I've enjoyed.
Speaker 10 (08:42):
I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to all of my peers I have.
It's I spent my earth. Celebrated my eighty fifth birthday
a week ago.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh wow, okay, and I had I live.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
I live in Spring and I have five children and
seven grandchildren and soon to be seven great grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh my.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
And we moved to Texas in nineteen seventy three when
Houston was very small, and have watched it evolve over
these fifty three years. And as you probably can hear,
I am not a born and born Texan. Everybody keeps
telling me I still have my Chicago accent.
Speaker 11 (09:30):
What you do you do.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
That?
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Well? I don't think so, but I can't after all
these years. Obviously it's not going to go away.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So what brought out of Texas? Bonnie?
Speaker 9 (09:43):
My husband worked for Procter and Gamble and got transferred here.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, is he still alive?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
No, I'm sorry to say. He passed away just about
a year ago and we had been married just shy
of sixty six years.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh wow, Wow, that's hard.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Yeah, well, it's been incredibly difficult. Not that I wouldn't
wish it on anybody.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
I started dating him when I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Oh wow. Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And what's the hardest thing about about him not being
there every day? That you never even considered? Because a
lot of times there's layers to these things. What's one
of those that you go, I never thought about this.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
Somebody to listen to you now, not that he's not
that he tell you a funny story I have. This
may sound gruesome, but anyway, he was cremated and I
have his ashes right here. Okay. And so one day
my son was here and I was telling him that
(10:51):
I was talking to his father because I was mad
about something, and so I was just like I would
if he was sitting right here, and I but I said,
he never says anything back to me. And my son
looks at me, he says, mother, he never did. He
never listened to you anyway, So what's the difference, you know?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But anyway that you pardon me, he's still there listening
to you.
Speaker 9 (11:17):
He's listening to me, and sometimes he gets an earful
But no I talk. I talk to him every day.
I say good night to him, I say good morning
to him. I just I mean, when you've talked to
somebody for all those years, why would I not talk
to him, you know? And but you know what else
is the other thing is a hug. And I don't
(11:38):
do Facebook.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I don't do that other than I read.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
I read it because I find it interesting. But there's
several widows support groups that I read, and that is
one of the major things that widows think or really
is the hug and you just.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't ever think about it.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
And I get my kids, me and my grandchather everything,
but it's not the same. But no, you just get
too used to being with you know, good all the
good times in the bad times. But uh no, it's
a it was very quick and not anticipated. And uh no,
we had we had a lot of good times together
and uh uh he he was a very special person.
(12:23):
But uh no, I've got my I've got my five kids,
three of them live here in Houston, one lives in
Ohio and one lives in Virginia. Four girls and my
son who is your age. Actually you're just a couple
of months apart. And so when I listened to you,
it reminds me your your your stories of growing up
(12:44):
reminds me of his two although he was only three
years old when we moved here. But uh anyway, uh no,
enjoy listening to you. Uh I was, and I again,
and I was. It is national or not Nashville. It
is white Wine Day. So that lady that called, I
thought crumb, I wonder if she realizes that it is
(13:04):
National white wine Day.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
There you go, she's got to switch over.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Yeah, And I find it interesting that lady complaining about
the ingredients in Bluebell ice cream? Well, that's how much
ice cream are you going to eat? To kill you
if you're gonna worry about what the ingredients in Bluebell
or buyers or whomever you're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I find that a lot of folks when they
get a little older, it's a natural tendency, they worry
a lot. And my mother used to worry and I
try to make her not worry. And I realized, you know,
that's just it just goes with the territory.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It just does.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Well.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
I have found worrying gets me absolutely nowhere right, and
it wears me down. And I mean, I've been like
this most of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And my husband was.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
He was a worrier, so I guess I was. I thought,
why would I be?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Said good, Ditary?
Speaker 9 (14:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, but Nonnie, you.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Have been wonderful. You had me for Clint there for
a minute, but but you made me laugh and we
came back out of it. I'm so glad you called.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Charlie. You're on the Michael Berry Show. What say you?
Speaker 12 (14:18):
Well, you were a Clint?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I was?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I was.
Speaker 13 (14:23):
I was too.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I'm that one was born in that one had me.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
I was born on December twenty fourth, nineteen forty four,
in Norfolk, Virginia, and I lived in Houston from sixty
nine to eighty. Oh, well, and lived and I was
single in Houston in the seventies, which I considered the
(14:48):
heyday of Houston and had a great time. I'm going
to be eighty two in December, and I say it's
good cigars and quality single malt Scotch, quality bourbon.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Oh wow, that's good there every day.
Speaker 12 (15:09):
Well, yeah, I'm living in the grange, living a drink.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, that's beautiful out there. I really I really like
Fayette County. I really like that part of the state
and that part of the country. It is, of course
a lot of people have figured that out, but it's
it's good clean living.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I like the people.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I like the old Czech communities and the old German communities,
and I like a lot of the retirees that have
left Houston for a little slower pace. And and that generation,
your generation of people that work hard and they're honest
and honorable, and they wave when you pass them on
a country road, and they open.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
The doors for the ladies and and they're.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Good customers and good friends and good neighbors.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's that's, that's just a life. Well, Charlie, thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm glad to hear from you, and I'm glad to
know you and a lot of folks out they're like
you our listening.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
That's a good reminder for me. Who was next for
holiday sugar?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Being downroad? Of Don?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Welcome hottie, oh Don?
And how old are you?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Sir? Ninety one? My birthday is always eighteen, so I'll
be ninety two in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh, you got one coming up? Do you have anything
special plan?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Well on my birthday? My usual holidays with relatives and
frankly if we had a big blast for my wife's
ninetieth birthday and Breckinridge, Colorado on July the fourth, so
we're not going to have a birthday get together. We'll
be sitting with my daughter's horses and donkeys and dogs
(16:54):
and cats and so forth over near bash Drop when
my birthday happened, So it'll be a quiet birthday. But
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So you were born in thirty five, thirty four, thirty
four ocase you'll be ninety two.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, right on, yeah, right right, that's fantastic. Are you
a lifelong Texan?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, yeah, I and all four of my kids were
born in Texas and my wife that we've lived, man,
we've lived in Texas and Washington State, Oklahoma, Toronto, or
Crystal Lake, Illinois. And now we're in Cyprus and and
coast crossing Hla and Cyprus. Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh, which is wonderful, happy place.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's a happy place to live, I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, No, it's beautiful. I've been out there. A friend
of mine, Doub Miller, used to live out there. It's
a wonderful, wonderful community. Although that area has really blown up.
The rooftops brought the retail, brought the rooftops brought the retail.
There's a lot of people and businesses that have moved
out there. You said your wife is ninety How long
have y'all been married?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Seveny years?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know you just don't hear that anymore because you
had to start early and live long to get to
do it.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And that is that is what we did.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Both, yes, you did, and what took you on all
these travels?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Well, my professional pursuits. I attended after high school in
little town called Bancady down in South Texas. I attended
Texas A and m got a BS degree in agriculture,
range and forestry technically and anticipate going into the business
of being involved in forestry management or range management. And
(18:51):
later I loved what I was doing, but I just
didn't make enough money to coming by then we had
two or three kids, and more and more apparent that
we need more money. So civil service at that time
was not a high paid job. So I began looking
and I moved out of the saw conformation service in Claude, Texas,
(19:12):
and moved to Southeastern Oklahoma near Antler's, Oklahoma, and managed
the thirty thousand acre range for hopewhile that didn't work
because of some external factors that I couldn't control. And
then we moved to Washington State managed the racehorse situation
up there. And then I came back to Texas and
(19:36):
I had a next door neighbor who worked for Motorola,
and when I started telling him I was looking for
a job, he said, oh, my goodness, I can't believe
you're available. He introduced me to the right people in
Monroolla and the next day I got a phone call
and went on the playroll that day and that's I
worked for Montola for like thirty years, mainly in the
(19:59):
commun unications. A big part of it was international management
salesforce to the patroying industry around the world. Wonderful job.
I had an incredible career and Monolla was at its
zenith and it went well. And when I was going
(20:19):
to retire in nineteen ninety nine, the Motrolla was executing
what they call a VSP, which a volunteer service program,
and they made some cash offers to people who would
retire early. And I was like sixty four, and I
took it and walked away and moved, well, not immediately,
(20:41):
but ended up in Cyprus, Texas. So it's been a whirlwind.
We've lived in a lot of different houses, lot of
different places. The kids got exposure to cultures of West
Texas and eastern Oklahoma, which are dramatically different, and then
everywhere we live, the kids seem to thrive and our
(21:04):
family's colwell, I'm very very far s to I have
four kids and all of them are so some of
them retiring. Now you know, you're getting old, when your
kids start retiring, right, they're so involved with us and
we're involved with them.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Done.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm always I'm always interested when someone gets up into
their nineties and higher and even their own kids are old, right,
you know, I've known people that they'll be mid nineties
and their kids are our high seventies, and you think, man,
even their own kids are old.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's a blessing to get to give, to get to
live that long.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But sometimes it can be tough because I've known of
people to lose their kids to what is not a
young age, and the parent just keeps on living. And
you know, these are these are the realities of longevity.
It's not all butterflies and rainbows.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Absolutely truly, like what I think you need to live
for today, I think you need to stay involved, you
need to stay active. My cliches are stay in motion,
which I mean physically, emotionally, intellectually. And I volunteer for
the landscape operations for our subdivision, and I've done that
(22:20):
for over twenty years now, and I take a lot
of pride in the fact that our community has a
great reputation and people that live there seem to enjoy
what they're or they're living. So yeah, so you're right
when the kids start retiring. And I've got my eldest
(22:41):
daughters married to a fellow who worked for Tnaco Phillips
for a long number of years and they've retired and
they live in Fort College to Colorado and then sand
Begue to Land in Mexico. And then I've got a
daughter who lives bast droves for bpay and remediation. Three
(23:04):
of our four kids have college degrees, and frankfully, I'm
kind of proud the fact that nobody resided or nobody
completed their education with a debt. We paid what they
could pay by their old efforts, and we paid the rest,
and when they got a degree, they walked out debt free.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So pretty pleasure that, you know, don you just said
and did something that is a generational thing that you
don't see much of anymore. When I talk to folks
that are your age into their nineties, they talk about
they have pride in their children and education and career
(23:48):
and military service and parenting of their kids, and that
their kids who their kids are married to. That's an
old fashioned notion, and I think somewhere along the way
parent has decided that that was none of their business
who their kid married and what their kid did.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I think that we've seen the result of it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We have not talked enough about Zora Mumdani, the Muslim
immigrant socialist mayor of New York. Let's go back to
twenty nineteen. Here he is describing his experience growing up
Muslim in New York. On September eleventh, before he even
knew what had happened, his teacher pulled him and a
(24:31):
Muslim classmate out of class to warn them that they
might be bullied. Here is Zora Mumdani talking about how
awful it's been for him growing up Muslim in New York,
and the subtle implication is you Christians and Jews and
white people, you're going to pay for this.
Speaker 14 (24:49):
There's still, you know, this illusion, and it's partially a
result of settler colonialism, that all of us can become
New Yorkers, that all of us can can settle into
the city. And yet there would be these moments where
I be reminded by someone whose intent was to tell
me that you do not belong. And one of those
first moments was on nine to eleven, when before I
knew what had happened. My teacher had pulled me and
(25:12):
a Muslim classmate of mine out of the class and
told us that something has happened and you may be bullied,
and I want you to tell me if that happens.
And frankly, I was lucky because most Muslim students in
the city were not given that kind of care from
their teachers. And yet in that moment, I realized that
I was not simply another classmate in a middle school.
(25:32):
I was distinct and there was a marker of that
distinction on me. And it was something that I would
be reminded of again and again. Is something when we
came back from a trip abroad, being pulled aside a
JFK by immigration agents in a double marrid room, sitting
me down on my own while my family was outside,
and asking me if I had just attended a terrorist
training camp and if I had intentions of attacking this country.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And if so, what were those plans.
Speaker 14 (25:57):
And it's something that has continued in the time since,
where a few months ago I went with a client
of mine to a bankruptcy court and as we're going
into the court, the security guard takes me aside and
pass me down with additional care and asks me multiple
times if I have any weapons of mass destruction on me.
And in these moments, the sense of not knowing where
(26:17):
home is, you know, they're amplified by what I would
see around me.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know this hearkens back to a Norm MacDonald joke,
but late great Norm MacDonald. Norm McDonald had a joke
where he has a liberal comedian on and he tells
the joke as he would often do, that you don't
realize that you're the butt of the joke because you're
also the recipient of the joke. And he says that
if a bunch of Muslims, I mean, if Muslims were
(26:46):
to bomb America and kill thousands or millions of Americans,
he's really worried that people will be mad at Muslims.
And she goes, yeah, that's right, and he proves the
absurdity this point without ever needing to say, see, I
told you so.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Listen to this joke. Well, I can't say, I.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
Can't say my friend's name, but he said his biggest
fear is that Isis or some terrorist group like that
will get a hold of a dirty bomb and exploited
over a major city within the United States and kill
(27:29):
tens of millions of people, because then the blowback against
innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yes, that's true, that's true. Let's do some joke.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Then we've got this crazy woman, and she is certifiably crazy.
She's been locked up before, she's been in a nuthhouse.
Her name is Francesca Holm. She's a Democrat, Socialist of
America sympathizer. She's running for governor of Wisconsin. Coming out
of nowhere. She ran a restaurant that she ran into
(28:07):
the ground. Her parents had to pay off the thirty
thousand dollars debt. But all of a sudden she's going
to be governor. And a bunch of people who've been
convinced by their public school teachers that socialism is great
or going.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, socialism, check it out.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
In Venezuela, tell a Cuban that a reporter, she says
that she wants the endorsement or she loves.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Illin Omar, that's her inspiration.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And a reporter asks why she wants the endorsement of
someone who's not from Wisconsin. Ilhan Omar is from Minnesota,
and she says, ilhan Omar shows what it looks like
to lead with moral conviction and courage. Two strong women
of color fighting for everyone. But they're not fighting for everyone.
(28:56):
They're fighting for non white people against white people, and
wi white people better wake up.
Speaker 15 (29:02):
Talk about why it's important for you to have the
backing of such a polarizing figure, even though she's not
from your state. Why does this matter to you to
have her there and why is she important to your race?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
The congresswoman has done a phenomenal job of showing what
it looks like to lead with moral conviction and courage.
I'm deeply inspired by the fact that the issues that
she's championing for human rights, for childcare, for ensuring paid lead.
These are things that Americans cared about all across the country,
(29:35):
and when people are polarizing not the issues, but manufacturing
lives about her, I think that it's important that our
women and girls and kids all across the country see
two strong women of color come together fighting for everyone's rights.
Doesn't matter what your background, your zip code, or what
your faith may be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And then Dana Perino asks Francesca Holme why people should
take caret her word when she says defund the police, Like,
do you really mean it, She says, as a Democrat socialist,
what that means is putting working class people first. Francesca Home,
(30:16):
Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate says, no money for the cops, which
means no police force.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Do you mean that, yeah, putting working people first. They
just give her phrases. This is exactly what they did
with AOC. They just give them phrases and they spout
it out.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Why shouldn't people take you at your word when you
say that you want to defund the police and go
towards abolishing it.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Danna, First of all, I have to say thank you
so much for featuring my home state in your novel,
and I don't need that as a As a democratic socialist,
what that means is that I would like to put
working class people first over.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now defunding a police, working class people first.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Chris rab is a Democrat state rap from Pennsylvania. At
a Democrat Socialist of America conference in Chicago, the weekend
agenda was mass action to build a general strike, organizing
to abolish ice, working to free Palestine, and the word
comrade throughout.
Speaker 16 (31:18):
I noted that in Chicago this weekend, the program includes
the following using mass action to build a general strike,
organizing to abolish ice, working to free Palestine and oppose Israel.
I also read use of the word comrade in the
agenda and wonder to myself, aren't you writing isn't DSA
essentially writing the GOP's scripts for commercials that we're going
(31:42):
to see in the fall.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I don't really care what the GOP has in mind.
That is not my focus.
Speaker 15 (31:48):
My focus is to be accountable to the folks who
voted for me, and to earn the support of folks
in the general election.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
And I do have a challenger.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He's an independent like you, and I take nothing for granted.
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Betrayal Weekly
Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.
Dateline NBC
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