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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time lucking load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Arry Show is on the air, looking into Mico.
We gotta feeding Beard.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't plan to shave, and it's a goof thing,
but I just gotta see I'm doing all right, Willin.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm big supports. I'm beating dude.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That the drug.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's neither drinking a drug. Snood.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, you probably know the news by now. Lindsey Graham
died over the weekends. Seventy one year old Republican senator
from South Carolina who loved war. President Trump was on
CNN yesterday and he said that he spoke to Lindsey
Graham just before Lindsey Graham unex effectedly died of what
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is believed to be a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Obviously quite a shock.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
The senator was a close ally of her, as he
referred to himself as your north star, the Trump guy
in the Senate. What are your thoughts about Lindsey Graham
this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, it's devastating. I thought he was fine. He called
me last night. He just got back from Ukraine and
he had a great trip. He was telling me about
the trip. He was pushing very very hard. You probably
know he wanted to just do the Save America Act
that he was talking about. That he was full of
them and vigor. He was tired, he said, I'm tired
because it's a long trip. But other than that, he
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was fine. And he called me, I guess just moments
before because he called me like a six point thirty
or something. And the medical people got there a little
bit later right after that. What a terrible loss it is.
He's a great politician. He was a natural the very
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few of them. He was a natural politician, got along
with everybody. When he didn't. He was very tough, you know,
he was tough cookie too, but he got along with everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, he had some harsh words about you ten years
ago when you were running against other Well.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
He ran against me, and he was, you know, formidable.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
He was tough cook.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He was tough and smart. And that's why I got
to know him in the campaign. I didn't know him
before then, and I spoke to him maybe once in
my life before then, but I got to know him.
He was one of the seventeen people that ran against me,
and he was, you know, a smart guy. And it
was a nasty campaign. He was tough and nasty, but
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I was nasty too, and it worked out fine, and
I got to know him by little drips and drabs,
and then we became friendly. And there was no better advocate.
He was a fantastic advocate in the Senate, and he
could do things that other people. He was able to.
If I had a really big problem with a certain Democrat,
he could work it out. Even know that's something most
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Republicans can do.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And so we bring ourselves to the issue of Lindsey Graham.
Let's put that off for a segment, shall we, because
that will require a full segment, and then some Sylvia Garcia,
the Houston congressman, Democrat illegal alien coddler, has watched too
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many movies, so she now after the illegal alien shooting
by Iyce, she has now decided that what officers should
do is, if you're running from the officer, they should
shoot out the tire.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
There is literally not a law enforcement agency in the
country and likely not in the world, who will tell
you that's a good idea, not one not one that
is first of all, extraordinarily difficult a moving car shooting
out the tire.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Number two, you're going to end up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
With stray bullets, ricocheting everywhere, and you're going to have
casualties of other people that are are passing by.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's going to be like a drive by shooting.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You're going to have people getting hit who were not
the intended It is the most ridiculous absurd. This is
the type of person that gets elected on the basis
of poor people, illegal aliens, electing knows and doesn't know
anything about anything, and then just running off her mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Listen to this, well, I.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Think my message is the same message that I that
I gave to the director that you know this is
this is a grieving family. It could happen to any
of us, especially if we have young you know, I'm
with of They may not stop meeting, but they're probably
might stop some of my friends.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
This is about making sure that the human civil rights
are protected. Human rights are protected, constitutional rights are protected
in this country as it is today here in our country,
in our city, but it could be any other city.
And we saw it happening in Minneapolis, we saw it
happen in Chicago, or see in terms of ICE presence,
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I'm sorry, So we have learned some lessons. Apparently ICE
has learned nothing. If they really think that a car
is going to hurt somebody. I mean even a kid
would tell you shoot the tires, you don't shoot the driver.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Actually, law enforcement is not undertaken by kids. Kids would
tell you a lot of really stupid things because kids
frontal vortex has not developed. It's why you send kids
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into war, because they are fearless. They are incapable of
assessing risk. They are seeking out forms of satisfaction that
as you get older, retreat to the back, as you
start thinking of self preservation and.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The likelihood that you could die.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The very idea that she is suggesting that you ask
kids over law enforcement how to deal with something for
which our law enforcement is trained. And that's what is
forgotten in all of this. If you want to criticize
the training for law enforcement, okay, criticize the training for
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law enforcement. It's the same law enforcement that protects you
every single day. And by the way, when were you
so worried about an over the top, all powerful law
enforcement apparatus When little old ladies stumbled through the Capitol
on January sixth, twenty twenty one, doing nothing wrong, nothing wrong,
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and they had their homes at four o'clock in the morning,
the door kicked in the FBI, their tanks out front
like they were some sort of a powerful figure, and
it was little old ladies that had been wearing their red,
white and blue because they had listened to the Trump
speech and they wanted to go over and see our
nation's capital. I didn't hear Silvia Garcia because you didn't
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hear her, because she didn't say it. This whole little
performative art, this is what we do every election season.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Right before the election. We find to George Floyd. Here
we go.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
They found their guy, and now the whole they're all
coming together. Oh, we are all him, he is all us.
Oh the law enforcement is bad. Vote for Democrats. Nobody
believes that this guy could have been driving beside them
and asking for a dollar and they wouldn't have looked twice.
They don't give one bit about him. He's a useful
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political football for them to try to score before November.
It's ridiculous and it's absurd. I think this one's going
to run out of gas. It hasn't been as good
as George Floyd for them, but maybe they'll find another one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Lake Lackaberry Shop.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Two days is July thirteenth, a day that should be
emblazoned upon our mind. Do you know what happened on
July thirteenth? A number of things if you were to
look at this day in history. In nineteen eighty five,
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the Live Aid concert took place in London and Philadelphia
and was an international raging success. It is Johnny Gilbert's birthday,
the voice of Jeopardy that introduces the contestants as they
come on. It's Bob Crane's birthday, who was the star
of Hogan's Heroes and then.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Met a little less positive end.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Al Rex, American musician, the bassist for Bill Haley and
the Comments, who was from South Texas. By the way,
Patrick Stewart was born on this day. Of a lot
of movies that you remember, including the X Men movie series.
Harrison Ford born on this day eighty four years ago,
an absolute legend of the big screen in his day.
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Cheech Marin of the Chiech and Chong franchise, which had
a pretty good little run there turns eighty today. Mark Mendoza,
the bassist for Twisted Sister, was born on this day.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But it was two years ago on.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
This day that the very credible attempt on President Trump's
life was carried out in Butler, penn Sylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Go ahead, Jim, and then the.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Worst president in the history of our country took over.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And look what happened to our country, probably.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Twenty million people.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And you know, that's a little bit old chart, that
charts a couple of months old.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And if you want to really see.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Something that said, take a look at what happened over
you know, I think there is zero chance that one
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individual planned and executed that act. There are some comparisons
to Charlie Kirk, sure, but Charlie Kirk received a whole
lot less protection than Donald Trump did. Charlie Kirk's protection
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tended to center around his person. So someone running up
on him, I think there was probably the expectation of
a much greater likelihood that someone would try to run
up and punch him, maybe stab him, maybe a close
quarters shooting, but more likely that someone would run up
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and try to punch him. Now, he had spoken to
quite a few people about his imminent fears of assassination.
I suspect that he had been advised by the White
House or the FBI that there were credible people we
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now know, and it wasn't hidden at the time that
there were public posts about him coming to town, and
this was the end of Charlie Kirk. But we also
know that that wasn't the first time that was done.
And so when people cry wolf enough times, you realize
what they're trying to do is instill terror, which is
what terrorism is. They're trying to instill fear. They're trying
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to prevent you from speaking. They're trying to get you
to prevent yourself from not speaking. The assassination attempt on
President Trump is barely even discussed or remembered because the
fellow missed by an inch.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If he doesn't miss, this is an.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Absolutely entirely different conversation and an entirely different country, so
many dramatic changes by the most minute movement of a barrel,
And sometimes I think about what would have happened, How
would the American people have reacted, How would the deep
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state have reacted? Would we have ever learned who was
actually involved?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The thing about that camera that we don't like in
the phone that everybody takes photos of all the time,
is it does enable us a lot more angles than
the Zabruder film. So you've got the guy crawling up
you have officers interacting with him, you have him being
taken out the minute he raises his head.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's odd.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's odd that they they made sure he was dead
real fast. We don't even know his name. I've not
bothered to remember it, but I try to make it
a general practice, not one hundred percent that I don't
mention the names of assassins, because that's part of why
they do what they do. But the response the poor
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Secret Service protection, and it was poor allowing the individual
to set up the way he did, allowing him a
sight line. I remember I was at the University of
Houston in late eighties technically early nineties, and they had
the G seven conference there on the UH campus, which
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was really cool, and I remember the campus was swarming,
swarming with Secret Service and prep teams, and there were
areas that were cordoned off like a murder scene. If
I recall correctly, and this is my memory, it's granted
it's been thirty five years ago, but I recall us
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talking about the fact that they had well did shut
the manhole covers.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I believe that was the case.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I've not read that or heard that that was what
was happening at the time, and we've had this conversation
with my wife and I since then.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But you're going to those extremes.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And then here is a situation where he's giving a
speech basically out in the field, and they're couple of buildings,
and you don't secure the top of that building, and
you give him a shot to lay down Chris Kyle's
style with the best sighting you could possibly get from
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far enough that a five year old couldn't make the shot,
but a very makeable shot, and had the President not
turned his head at that moment.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Clearly he would have made it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You can't tell me, I won't believe it that our services,
our intelligence services, our law enforcement services, and by the way,
the Butler Police, the Butler Police were the ones that
were sounding the call that there were problems here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Before holding that that was just two years ago. How
quickly we forget right.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The inthereo the butterflies with the Michael Berry they're.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
All Duncans, And you know Duncan means yo yo. There
are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Randy old man out there who've perpetrated the myth that
that song is written about them, because it's not such
a it's not such a bad Texas image after all,
and how cool to have William Whaling at their peak
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making a song about you. But I have been told
inside the music community and by others who know them well,
that it's kind of like Carly Simon's You're So Vain.
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It became kind of more interesting because you don't know
who it's about. And then they tried to make the
big who done it about Sweet Caroline, when I don't
think there was anybody who ever doubted it was Caroline
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Kennedy because it was.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
A few years after his shooting and those kids.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But anyway, he finally Neil Diamond came out and said
that that's who that was about. But I believe, based
on the credibility of the sources and the proximity to
the whole scene at the time, that that was Bob Mossbacker.
And I think it was Georgette was his wife at
the time, who was very close to Willie. Bob Mossbacker
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who would end up being kind of the.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Finance guy for George H. W.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Bush's political career and Commerce secretary under I guess it
was Reagan, wasn't later Bush. He was Commerce secretary under
either Reagan or Bush.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Or George W. Bush I can't recall at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And then of course his son Rob Mossbacker, who had
been running Mossbacker Energy, would run of Hustwell, he would
run for attorney, he would run for lieutenant governor in
nineteen ninety four against I can see his face, Bob.
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They have a museum to him in Austin. What was
his name, Gosh, I can't remember. I can't believe. I
can't remember that. He'd been around the Senate for.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
A long time.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
He was a long time Senate insider. And he beats
Mossbacker by a whisker in ninety four. An ad that
was I can see the guy's name out of Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Who made it?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Gosh, My memory is going, But anyway, it was an
ad that won a national award for best Political Ad
of the Year. And for those of you who were
around in nineteen ninety four, I wrote a paper for
my entire grade for a class with Richard Murray at
the University of Houston on that campaign and specifically that
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set of ads. And if you remember those ads in
ninety four, because Mossbacker was kind of an interesting odd
name and he's running and he's introducing himself in a
statewide campaign. They would have three people say it wrong,
and then he would say it right. So they'd say
who you're voting for, Boss Baker, Massmaker, Moosemocker, and then
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he'd say Mossbacher, and it just implanted that name in
your head. And so in the election that Bush won,
I believe it was in ninety four, he ran for
lieutenant governor and came up just short. Three years later,
after six years of Bob Lanier, Republicans thought there was
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a time there was a Republican who could win the
mayor's race, and at the time, if.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
There was, that's probably who it was.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And so Rob Mossbacker ran for mayor of the City
of Houston and came up I think twelve thousand votes
short against Lee Brown. And I remember as that was
going down when the returns were coming in out of
Missouri City. The Republicans who run for office in the
City of Houston elections don't realize that all of the
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City of Houston is not in Harris County. There's a
little section in the southwest of Houston that is Fort
ben County, and it's kind of like the California mayoral
and gubernatorial elections. They just hold back the boxes until
the end of the night and then they get the
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call from you know who and that many votes materialize
and that box comes rolling in and they drop it
down and they go, ugh, we had these votes.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Now this was before the.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Electronic voting began, but they had boxes of votes waiting,
and so Lee Brown became the mayor and the rest,
as they say, is history. Mossbacker would kind of go
quietly into the good night until two thousand and eight.
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He did do things I believe for George W. Bush
because it was very close to the Bush family. The
Bush family has had a lot of them have passed away,
but had a code rat a very smart, very driven,
very connected, very successful people, some of them self made,
some of them scions of wealthy families.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
James A.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Baker the third, who would run Gerald Ford's campaign in
seventy six, then in seventy eight would run for Attorney
General and lose to Mark White, who would after serving
a term as Attorney General, going to be governor eighty
two to eighty six.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
James A.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Becker the Third would end up he was very close
to George HW. Bush the father, and he would serve
in the Reagan administration, and much much like Trump picked
off some of Cruz's best people because Cruse had better
people than Trump did.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
George H. W. Bush had better people then.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well I don't know if that's true, but he had
some really good people, and Reagan had the good sense
to recognize that and bring him in.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
James A.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Becker the Third, you'll remember, would be Treasury Secretary under
President Reagan. He would go on to be associated with
the Bush presidency of eighty eighty nine to ninety three,
and then in two thousand he would be the lawyer
that would lead the recount in Florida. And you can
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go back and read the articles. It was like Moses
himself was walking in the seas parted, and there was
no doubt that George H. George W. Bush was going
to win that election because the votes were in his favor.
And you didn't need to know what a hanging Chad
was to know that George W. Bush was going to
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win because James A. Baker the Third was going to
make damn sure of it. And that's the guy you
want on your side. I have my criticisms of the
Bush family and their agenda and the and the way
that their group.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Will push anybody else out.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
That's, by the way, that's the whole basis of the
problems with Paxton. All the problems with Paxton are rooted
in the fact that he got in the way of
the political career of Jeb Bush's son, George P.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And there's a group of Bush Partisans who are out
to destroy him, and eventually they will. They will not
stop because he got in the way of the next
group of Bushes.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And this is the royal court to the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Guys have a tendency to interact, joke with each other
in a very different manner than women do. This is
what is sometimes referred to his locker room talk, and
it can refer to the endowment of the man without
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any knowledge of it, sexual exploits, height, weight, physical ability, intelligence,
mistakes made, arrests, professional success. It's what we do. It's
our love language. To use the therapist or psychologist's term.
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Women often don't get that. Now, some women do if
they were raised around boys, older brothers especially, or if
they're married to a guy you know, and they ride
motorcycles with them, or they're in an old car club,
or they hang around a lot of guys they get this,
but many women have the more mommy.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Approach to this of stop that it's mean.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And those types of women tend to not appreciate what
I consider to be my humor, which may or may
not always be funny to everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But one of my favorite things to do, because most
of my friends are Catholic, is to make Catholic jokes,
and anyone outside in my circle that doesn't have a
sense of humor doesn't get that it's a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's all in good fun. So that is mean. You
don't like Catholics.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You think I'd be so stupid even if I didn't
do you think I would be so stupid. It's all
in good fun. It's a joke. But whatever, you're never
going to be able to help those types of people.
I don't dislike Catholics. In fact, I love Catholics. That's
not meant to pander. That's because some people seem to
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still have this doubt about this, and I don't understand.
I make jokes about Dan Pastorini's age and he's one
of my closest friends because it's funny on the air.
The other day, I asked on Facebook for people to
tell who was the most famous person to come out
of their high school, and several people mentioned I guess
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knew Caney Sundan's head and even more people said Adam done.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And I said, rip Adam done. Sad that big Donkey died.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I didn't die, but we got to kick out of
the fact that a bunch of people were calling him
and asking him if he had died. He's like, isn't
this the Eventually I will die and my phone will
have a bunch of phone calls calling to see if
I'm dead. If I don't answer them, maybe yes I
did die. That may not be funny to everybody, but
it's fine to us in any case. I say all
that to turn to the issue of Catholics in America,
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and I read there's a fellow I follow named Ryan
Birge who writes about religious affiliations and attendance, engagement, baptisms,
self identification, and he posted this stat they're constantly doing
data research.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
In nineteen sixty five, one.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Point two four million babies were baptized Catholic in the
United States. Sixty years later, in twenty twenty two, only
four hundred thirty eight thousand. That's a sixty five percent
drop in infant baptisms in less than sixty years. First
Communions in nineteen ninety eight hundred and fifty thousand, in
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twenty twenty five, five hundred thirty seven thousand. However, and
I don't know what accounts for this. Confirmations Europe in
nineteen ninety it was four hundred ninety one thousand, in
twenty twenty five four hundred ninety eight thousand, so I
don't really know.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I know some of it. But the.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Catholic approach to baptism is different than the Southern Baptist
approach to baptism. For us, it's a decision that you
must make on your own and request to be baptized
as part of your process. For Catholics, of babies baptized
into the faith by the family, and Methodists kind of
have a sprinkling approach.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's sort of similar to this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
To us, it's very important that the child make their
own decision. I'm not trying to argue the promisey of
this or that. I'm just explaining the difference to people
who don't know. But in nineteen sixty five, one a
million and a quarter babies were baptized Catholic in the
United States, and that number three or four years ago
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drops to four hundred thirty eight thousand. However, confirmations in
nineteen ninety were four hundred ninety one thousand, and now
they're up to four hundred and.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Ninety eight thousand. I would be curious to know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
From Catholics who are listening, if you would shoot me
an email, how are baptisms down? First, communions are down,
but confirmations are up.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There has to be something that would account for that.
I have no idea what it would be. I do.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'd have to stop and process and really think through
to try to figure that out. And I couldn't talk
at the same time if I were to. If I
were to do that, I would like to. I would
like to figure that one out. But maybe a good
Catholic could explain what explained to me your suspicions on
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that There has to be a ra The direct answer
for that, the answer I couldn't think of earlier was
Bob Bullock, and it was not.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It was not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It was not the ninety four race where he beat Mossbacker.
It was the Nadee race. Where Ann Richards beat Clayton Williams.
That's to me one of the most fascinating races in
all of history, not just Texas history, because Clayton Williams
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was beating her by well over thirty percentage points.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
In fact, I think that race.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Don't get me to line, but I recall that race
being like thirty five percentage points separating them, you know,
sixty eight thirty two kind of deal. And there is
a moment where Clayton Williams, who hubrisk gets the best
of us, goes before a fall. He's coasting his way
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to the governor's race. He has vanquished you know, he's
a first time candidate. He's an aw woman out of Houston.
He has vanquished Jack rains.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
On.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think Phil Hansen was in that race. I think,
what's the fellow that was at Texas Tech. Gosh dog
it he was a chancellor of Texas Tech. Did a podcast. Anyway,
he beats, he beats the field. He's a breath of
fresh air. He's kind of a Trump like figure in
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that he's a Tellet like it is, shoot from the hips,
shoot from the hip kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Brings these reporters out.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
To his ranch. He's going to take them out on
the hunt. It starts raining. He says, you know, the
rain is kind of like getting raped. You gotta lay
back and enjoy it. It was an off the record moment.
They run and report that, and he's done, and that's it.
Bullet wins that Lieutenant governor of race against Mossbacker. But
he won it bigger than I thought. He did two
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million votes to one point, seventy fifty two to forty five,
and Anne.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Richards becomes governor. Of course, four years later, George George W.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Bush beats her, you know, slapping her in the face
after her comments at then President Bush at.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
The ninety two convention.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
If Mossbacker had run in ninety four instead of for
lieutenant governor instead of ninety he would have been elected.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And who was who did run
Speaker 1 (32:33):
In ninety four as Republican for lieutenant governor, Rick Perry
It's that time time time lucking load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Arry Show is on the air, looking into Mico.
We gotta feeding Beard.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I don't plan to shave, and it's a goof thing,
but I just gotta see I'm doing all right, Willin.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm big supports. I'm beating dude.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That the drug.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's neither drinking a drug. Snood.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, you probably know the news by now. Lindsey Graham
died over the weekends. Seventy one year old Republican senator
from South Carolina who loved war. President Trump was on
CNN yesterday and he said that he spoke to Lindsey
Graham just before Lindsey Graham unex effectedly died of what
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is believed to be a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Obviously quite a shock.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
The senator was a close ally of her, as he
referred to himself as your north star, the Trump guy
in the Senate. What are your thoughts about Lindsey Graham
this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, it's devastating. I thought he was fine. He called
me last night. He just got back from Ukraine and
he had a great trip. He was telling me about
the trip. He was pushing very very hard. You probably
know he wanted to just do the Save America Act
that he was talking about. That he was full of
them and vigor. He was tired, he said, I'm tired
because it's a long trip. But other than that, he
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was fine. And he called me, I guess just moments
before because he called me like a six point thirty
or something. And the medical people got there a little
bit later right after that. What a terrible loss it is.
He's a great politician. He was a natural the very
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few of them. He was a natural politician, got along
with everybody. When he didn't. He was very tough, you know,
he was tough cookie too, but he got along with everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, he had some harsh words about you ten years
ago when you were running against other Well.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
He ran against me, and he was, you know, formidable.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
He was tough cook.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He was tough and smart. And that's why I got
to know him in the campaign. I didn't know him
before then, and I spoke to him maybe once in
my life before then, but I got to know him.
He was one of the seventeen people that ran against me,
and he was, you know, a smart guy. And it
was a nasty campaign. He was tough and nasty, but
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I was nasty too, and it worked out fine, and
I got to know him by little drips and drabs,
and then we became friendly. And there was no better advocate.
He was a fantastic advocate in the Senate, and he
could do things that other people. He was able to.
If I had a really big problem with a certain Democrat,
he could work it out. Even know that's something most
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Republicans can do.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And so we bring ourselves to the issue of Lindsey Graham.
Let's put that off for a segment, shall we, because
that will require a full segment, and then some Sylvia Garcia,
the Houston congressman, Democrat illegal alien coddler, has watched too
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many movies, so she now after the illegal alien shooting
by Iyce, she has now decided that what officers should
do is, if you're running from the officer, they should
shoot out the tire.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
There is literally not a law enforcement agency in the
country and likely not in the world, who will tell
you that's a good idea, not one not one that
is first of all, extraordinarily difficult a moving car shooting
out the tire.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Number two, you're going to end up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
With stray bullets, ricocheting everywhere, and you're going to have
casualties of other people that are are passing by.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's going to be like a drive by shooting.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You're going to have people getting hit who were not
the intended It is the most ridiculous absurd. This is
the type of person that gets elected on the basis
of poor people, illegal aliens, electing knows and doesn't know
anything about anything, and then just running off her mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Listen to this, well, I.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Think my message is the same message that I that
I gave to the director that you know this is
this is a grieving family. It could happen to any
of us, especially if we have young you know, I'm
with of They may not stop meeting, but they're probably
might stop some of my friends.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
This is about making sure that the human civil rights
are protected. Human rights are protected, constitutional rights are protected
in this country as it is today here in our country,
in our city, but it could be any other city.
And we saw it happening in Minneapolis, we saw it
happen in Chicago, or see in terms of ICE presence,
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I'm sorry, So we have learned some lessons. Apparently ICE
has learned nothing. If they really think that a car
is going to hurt somebody. I mean even a kid
would tell you shoot the tires, you don't shoot the driver.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Actually, law enforcement is not undertaken by kids. Kids would
tell you a lot of really stupid things because kids
frontal vortex has not developed. It's why you send kids
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into war, because they are fearless. They are incapable of
assessing risk. They are seeking out forms of satisfaction that
as you get older, retreat to the back, as you
start thinking of self preservation and.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The likelihood that you could die.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The very idea that she is suggesting that you ask
kids over law enforcement how to deal with something for
which our law enforcement is trained. And that's what is
forgotten in all of this. If you want to criticize
the training for law enforcement, okay, criticize the training for
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law enforcement. It's the same law enforcement that protects you
every single day. And by the way, when were you
so worried about an over the top, all powerful law
enforcement apparatus When little old ladies stumbled through the Capitol
on January sixth, twenty twenty one, doing nothing wrong, nothing wrong,
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and they had their homes at four o'clock in the morning,
the door kicked in the FBI, their tanks out front
like they were some sort of a powerful figure, and
it was little old ladies that had been wearing their red,
white and blue because they had listened to the Trump
speech and they wanted to go over and see our
nation's capital. I didn't hear Silvia Garcia because you didn't
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hear her, because she didn't say it. This whole little
performative art, this is what we do every election season.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Right before the election. We find to George Floyd. Here
we go.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
They found their guy, and now the whole they're all
coming together. Oh, we are all him, he is all us.
Oh the law enforcement is bad. Vote for Democrats. Nobody
believes that this guy could have been driving beside them
and asking for a dollar and they wouldn't have looked twice.
They don't give one bit about him. He's a useful
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political football for them to try to score before November.
It's ridiculous and it's absurd. I think this one's going
to run out of gas. It hasn't been as good
as George Floyd for them, but maybe they'll find another one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Lake Lackaberry Shop.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Two days is July thirteenth, a day that should be
emblazoned upon our mind. Do you know what happened on
July thirteenth? A number of things if you were to
look at this day in history. In nineteen eighty five,
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the Live Aid concert took place in London and Philadelphia
and was an international raging success. It is Johnny Gilbert's birthday,
the voice of Jeopardy that introduces the contestants as they
come on. It's Bob Crane's birthday, who was the star
of Hogan's Heroes and then.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Met a little less positive end.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Al Rex, American musician, the bassist for Bill Haley and
the Comments, who was from South Texas. By the way,
Patrick Stewart was born on this day. Of a lot
of movies that you remember, including the X Men movie series.
Harrison Ford born on this day eighty four years ago,
an absolute legend of the big screen in his day.
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Cheech Marin of the Chiech and Chong franchise, which had
a pretty good little run there turns eighty today. Mark Mendoza,
the bassist for Twisted Sister, was born on this day.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But it was two years ago on.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
This day that the very credible attempt on President Trump's
life was carried out in Butler, penn Sylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Go ahead, Jim, and then the.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Worst president in the history of our country took over.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And look what happened to our country, probably.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Twenty million people.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And you know, that's a little bit old chart, that
charts a couple of months old.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And if you want to really see.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Something that said, take a look at what happened over
you know, I think there is zero chance that one
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individual planned and executed that act. There are some comparisons
to Charlie Kirk, sure, but Charlie Kirk received a whole
lot less protection than Donald Trump did. Charlie Kirk's protection
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tended to center around his person. So someone running up
on him, I think there was probably the expectation of
a much greater likelihood that someone would try to run
up and punch him, maybe stab him, maybe a close
quarters shooting, but more likely that someone would run up
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and try to punch him. Now, he had spoken to
quite a few people about his imminent fears of assassination.
I suspect that he had been advised by the White
House or the FBI that there were credible people we
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now know, and it wasn't hidden at the time that
there were public posts about him coming to town, and
this was the end of Charlie Kirk. But we also
know that that wasn't the first time that was done.
And so when people cry wolf enough times, you realize
what they're trying to do is instill terror, which is
what terrorism is. They're trying to instill fear. They're trying
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to prevent you from speaking. They're trying to get you
to prevent yourself from not speaking. The assassination attempt on
President Trump is barely even discussed or remembered because the
fellow missed by an inch.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If he doesn't miss, this is an.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Absolutely entirely different conversation and an entirely different country, so
many dramatic changes by the most minute movement of a barrel,
And sometimes I think about what would have happened, How
would the American people have reacted, How would the deep
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state have reacted? Would we have ever learned who was
actually involved?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
The thing about that camera that we don't like in
the phone that everybody takes photos of all the time,
is it does enable us a lot more angles than
the Zabruder film. So you've got the guy crawling up
you have officers interacting with him, you have him being
taken out the minute he raises his head.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That's odd.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's odd that they they made sure he was dead
real fast. We don't even know his name. I've not
bothered to remember it, but I try to make it
a general practice, not one hundred percent that I don't
mention the names of assassins, because that's part of why
they do what they do. But the response the poor
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Secret Service protection, and it was poor allowing the individual
to set up the way he did, allowing him a
sight line. I remember I was at the University of
Houston in late eighties technically early nineties, and they had
the G seven conference there on the UH campus, which
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was really cool, and I remember the campus was swarming,
swarming with Secret Service and prep teams, and there were
areas that were cordoned off like a murder scene. If
I recall correctly, and this is my memory, it's granted
it's been thirty five years ago, but I recall us
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talking about the fact that they had well did shut
the manhole covers.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I believe that was the case.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I've not read that or heard that that was what
was happening at the time, and we've had this conversation
with my wife and I since then.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But you're going to those extremes.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And then here is a situation where he's giving a
speech basically out in the field, and they're couple of buildings,
and you don't secure the top of that building, and
you give him a shot to lay down Chris Kyle's
style with the best sighting you could possibly get from
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far enough that a five year old couldn't make the shot,
but a very makeable shot, and had the President not
turned his head at that moment.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Clearly he would have made it.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You can't tell me, I won't believe it that our services,
our intelligence services, our law enforcement services, and by the way,
the Butler Police, the Butler Police were the ones that
were sounding the call that there were problems here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Before holding that that was just two years ago. How
quickly we forget right.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The inthereo the butterflies with the Michael Berry they're.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
All Duncans, And you know Duncan means yo yo. There
are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Randy old man out there who've perpetrated the myth that
that song is written about them, because it's not such
a it's not such a bad Texas image after all,
and how cool to have William Whaling at their peak
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making a song about you. But I have been told
inside the music community and by others who know them well,
that it's kind of like Carly Simon's You're So Vain.
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It became kind of more interesting because you don't know
who it's about. And then they tried to make the
big who done it about Sweet Caroline, when I don't
think there was anybody who ever doubted it was Caroline
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Kennedy because it was.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
A few years after his shooting and those kids.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But anyway, he finally Neil Diamond came out and said
that that's who that was about. But I believe, based
on the credibility of the sources and the proximity to
the whole scene at the time, that that was Bob Mossbacker.
And I think it was Georgette was his wife at
the time, who was very close to Willie. Bob Mossbacker
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who would end up being kind of the.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Finance guy for George H. W.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Bush's political career and Commerce secretary under I guess it
was Reagan, wasn't later Bush. He was Commerce secretary under
either Reagan or Bush.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Or George W. Bush I can't recall at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And then of course his son Rob Mossbacker, who had
been running Mossbacker Energy, would run of Hustwell, he would
run for attorney, he would run for lieutenant governor in
nineteen ninety four against I can see his face, Bob.
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They have a museum to him in Austin. What was
his name, Gosh, I can't remember. I can't believe. I
can't remember that. He'd been around the Senate for.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
A long time.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
He was a long time Senate insider. And he beats
Mossbacker by a whisker in ninety four. An ad that
was I can see the guy's name out of Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Who made it?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Gosh, My memory is going, But anyway, it was an
ad that won a national award for best Political Ad
of the Year. And for those of you who were
around in nineteen ninety four, I wrote a paper for
my entire grade for a class with Richard Murray at
the University of Houston on that campaign and specifically that
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set of ads. And if you remember those ads in
ninety four, because Mossbacker was kind of an interesting odd
name and he's running and he's introducing himself in a
statewide campaign. They would have three people say it wrong,
and then he would say it right. So they'd say
who you're voting for, Boss Baker, Massmaker, Moosemocker, and then
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he'd say Mossbacher, and it just implanted that name in
your head. And so in the election that Bush won,
I believe it was in ninety four, he ran for
lieutenant governor and came up just short. Three years later,
after six years of Bob Lanier, Republicans thought there was
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a time there was a Republican who could win the
mayor's race, and at the time, if.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
There was, that's probably who it was.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And so Rob Mossbacker ran for mayor of the City
of Houston and came up I think twelve thousand votes
short against Lee Brown. And I remember as that was
going down when the returns were coming in out of
Missouri City. The Republicans who run for office in the
City of Houston elections don't realize that all of the
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City of Houston is not in Harris County. There's a
little section in the southwest of Houston that is Fort
ben County, and it's kind of like the California mayoral
and gubernatorial elections. They just hold back the boxes until
the end of the night and then they get the
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call from you know who and that many votes materialize
and that box comes rolling in and they drop it
down and they go, ugh, we had these votes.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Now this was before the.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Electronic voting began, but they had boxes of votes waiting,
and so Lee Brown became the mayor and the rest,
as they say, is history. Mossbacker would kind of go
quietly into the good night until two thousand and eight.
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He did do things I believe for George W. Bush
because it was very close to the Bush family. The
Bush family has had a lot of them have passed away,
but had a code rat a very smart, very driven,
very connected, very successful people, some of them self made,
some of them scions of wealthy families.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
James A.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Baker the third, who would run Gerald Ford's campaign in
seventy six, then in seventy eight would run for Attorney
General and lose to Mark White, who would after serving
a term as Attorney General, going to be governor eighty
two to eighty six.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
James A.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Becker the Third would end up he was very close
to George HW. Bush the father, and he would serve
in the Reagan administration, and much much like Trump picked
off some of Cruz's best people because Cruse had better
people than Trump did.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
George H. W. Bush had better people then.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well I don't know if that's true, but he had
some really good people, and Reagan had the good sense
to recognize that and bring him in.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
James A.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Becker the Third, you'll remember, would be Treasury Secretary under
President Reagan. He would go on to be associated with
the Bush presidency of eighty eighty nine to ninety three,
and then in two thousand he would be the lawyer
that would lead the recount in Florida. And you can
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go back and read the articles. It was like Moses
himself was walking in the seas parted, and there was
no doubt that George H. George W. Bush was going
to win that election because the votes were in his favor.
And you didn't need to know what a hanging Chad
was to know that George W. Bush was going to
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win because James A. Baker the Third was going to
make damn sure of it. And that's the guy you
want on your side. I have my criticisms of the
Bush family and their agenda and the and the way
that their group.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Will push anybody else out.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
That's, by the way, that's the whole basis of the
problems with Paxton. All the problems with Paxton are rooted
in the fact that he got in the way of
the political career of Jeb Bush's son, George P.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And there's a group of Bush Partisans who are out
to destroy him, and eventually they will. They will not
stop because he got in the way of the next
group of Bushes.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And this is the royal court to the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Guys have a tendency to interact, joke with each other
in a very different manner than women do. This is
what is sometimes referred to his locker room talk, and
it can refer to the endowment of the man without
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any knowledge of it, sexual exploits, height, weight, physical ability, intelligence,
mistakes made, arrests, professional success. It's what we do. It's
our love language. To use the therapist or psychologist's term.
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Women often don't get that. Now, some women do if
they were raised around boys, older brothers especially, or if
they're married to a guy you know, and they ride
motorcycles with them, or they're in an old car club,
or they hang around a lot of guys they get this,
but many women have the more mommy.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Approach to this of stop that it's mean.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And those types of women tend to not appreciate what
I consider to be my humor, which may or may
not always be funny to everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And that's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But one of my favorite things to do, because most
of my friends are Catholic, is to make Catholic jokes,
and anyone outside in my circle that doesn't have a
sense of humor doesn't get that it's a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's all in good fun. So that is mean. You
don't like Catholics.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You think I'd be so stupid even if I didn't
do you think I would be so stupid. It's all
in good fun. It's a joke. But whatever, you're never
going to be able to help those types of people.
I don't dislike Catholics. In fact, I love Catholics. That's
not meant to pander. That's because some people seem to
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still have this doubt about this, and I don't understand.
I make jokes about Dan Pastorini's age and he's one
of my closest friends because it's funny on the air.
The other day, I asked on Facebook for people to
tell who was the most famous person to come out
of their high school, and several people mentioned I guess
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knew Caney Sundan's head and even more people said Adam done.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And I said, rip Adam done. Sad that big Donkey died.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I didn't die, but we got to kick out of
the fact that a bunch of people were calling him
and asking him if he had died. He's like, isn't
this the Eventually I will die and my phone will
have a bunch of phone calls calling to see if
I'm dead. If I don't answer them, maybe yes I
did die. That may not be funny to everybody, but
it's fine to us in any case. I say all
that to turn to the issue of Catholics in America,
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and I read there's a fellow I follow named Ryan
Birge who writes about religious affiliations and attendance, engagement, baptisms,
self identification, and he posted this stat they're constantly doing
data research.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
In nineteen sixty five, one.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Point two four million babies were baptized Catholic in the
United States. Sixty years later, in twenty twenty two, only
four hundred thirty eight thousand. That's a sixty five percent
drop in infant baptisms in less than sixty years. First
Communions in nineteen ninety eight hundred and fifty thousand, in
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twenty twenty five, five hundred thirty seven thousand. However, and
I don't know what accounts for this. Confirmations Europe in
nineteen ninety it was four hundred ninety one thousand, in
twenty twenty five four hundred ninety eight thousand, so I
don't really know.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I know some of it. But the.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Catholic approach to baptism is different than the Southern Baptist
approach to baptism. For us, it's a decision that you
must make on your own and request to be baptized
as part of your process. For Catholics, of babies baptized
into the faith by the family, and Methodists kind of
have a sprinkling approach.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's sort of similar to this.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
To us, it's very important that the child make their
own decision. I'm not trying to argue the promisey of
this or that. I'm just explaining the difference to people
who don't know. But in nineteen sixty five, one a
million and a quarter babies were baptized Catholic in the
United States, and that number three or four years ago
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drops to four hundred thirty eight thousand. However, confirmations in
nineteen ninety were four hundred ninety one thousand, and now
they're up to four hundred and.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Ninety eight thousand. I would be curious to know.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
From Catholics who are listening, if you would shoot me
an email, how are baptisms down? First, communions are down,
but confirmations are up.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There has to be something that would account for that.
I have no idea what it would be. I do.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'd have to stop and process and really think through
to try to figure that out. And I couldn't talk
at the same time if I were to. If I
were to do that, I would like to. I would
like to figure that one out. But maybe a good
Catholic could explain what explained to me your suspicions on
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that There has to be a ra The direct answer
for that, the answer I couldn't think of earlier was
Bob Bullock, and it was not.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It was not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It was not the ninety four race where he beat Mossbacker.
It was the Nadee race. Where Ann Richards beat Clayton Williams.
That's to me one of the most fascinating races in
all of history, not just Texas history, because Clayton Williams
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was beating her by well over thirty percentage points.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
In fact, I think that race.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Don't get me to line, but I recall that race
being like thirty five percentage points separating them, you know,
sixty eight thirty two kind of deal. And there is
a moment where Clayton Williams, who hubrisk gets the best
of us, goes before a fall. He's coasting his way
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to the governor's race. He has vanquished you know, he's
a first time candidate. He's an aw woman out of Houston.
He has vanquished Jack rains.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
On.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think Phil Hansen was in that race. I think,
what's the fellow that was at Texas Tech. Gosh dog
it he was a chancellor of Texas Tech. Did a podcast. Anyway,
he beats, he beats the field. He's a breath of
fresh air. He's kind of a Trump like figure in
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that he's a Tellet like it is, shoot from the hips,
shoot from the hip kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Brings these reporters out.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
To his ranch. He's going to take them out on
the hunt. It starts raining. He says, you know, the
rain is kind of like getting raped. You gotta lay
back and enjoy it. It was an off the record moment.
They run and report that, and he's done, and that's it.
Bullet wins that Lieutenant governor of race against Mossbacker. But
he won it bigger than I thought. He did two
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million votes to one point, seventy fifty two to forty five,
and Anne.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Richards becomes governor. Of course, four years later, George George W.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Bush beats her, you know, slapping her in the face
after her comments at then President Bush at.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
The ninety two convention.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
If Mossbacker had run in ninety four instead of for
lieutenant governor instead of ninety he would have been elected.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And who was who did run
Speaker 1 (32:33):
In ninety four as Republican for lieutenant governor, Rick Perry
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