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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time lucking Lord, the Michael Verde
Show is on the air. You'll get into Mica. We
gotta beat every beard.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I don't plan to shave, and it's you the thing,
but I just.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Gotta see I'm doing it all right, will.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm big Spot's beating Verdictude and that's the.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
True Gotta go to the doctor and says doctor, I
can't get that song She's a Lady out of my mind.
It keeps repeating and repeating, and it just won't go away.
The doctor says, hmm, sounds like a case of Tom
Jones syndrome. The guy says, I never heard of that?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Is it rare?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And the doctor says, good week. Ramal me too.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They say that having fish tanks can help soothe mental
and physical pain.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's probably because of all the indoor fins.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, we lost two greats this past week, the great
Phil Garner scrap Iron from the heyday Astros period. For me,
the time when I when I worship those Astros. You know,
when you're a Little League ballplayer and you're Houston Astros
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in the Astra Dome, you'd be fascinating. If it was
possible to go back and look on a chart of
how many home runs some of those guys had that
would have been a home run in minute made slash sorry,
in in run slash minute made slash diken. It would
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have been really interesting to see the difference, especially right
handed pull hitters to that left field Crawford box golee.
That would have been something else, wouldn't it? Talk about
that in the moment. We also lost the patriarch of
Tilman Fritita's family, his father Vic, who was a legend
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on the island. We were down in Galveston all weekend
and it was really nice to see at Danny Heart's.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did Danny Heart? Yeah, Danny Hart's place.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The uh this happens at a certain age Gumbo Diner
used to be the old.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Wow, I'm only fifty four, used to be the old Kettle,
Dutch Kettle. Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We would wear that place out. My wife would always
ask me what I liked so much about it. We
would go down to the Uh San Louis a lot.
The kids were younger, we'd never leave that pool. They
loved that pool and the water slide and all that.
And then our tradition on Sunday morning was we did
it at I'm sorry. On Saturday morning was would eat
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at the Dutch Kettle, and that place was treat My
wife and kids couldn't understand why I liked it so much,
because there'd be people smoking in there, and to me,
a proper breakfast diner should be exactly what that was, which.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Is the acrid smell of smoke.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The waitresses should all look like they've done at least
a little time in if not prison jail for shoplifting
and maybe stabbing an X, you know, but it was justified,
so they lessened the sentence. And the guys in there
should all look like any one of them could be
an ex con, but you're not sure which one.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They got the old you know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They got the old Pope by of the sailor tattoo
on their forearm, you know, a cigarette dangling, dropping ash
on the floor, raspy voice coughing up along every every
ever so often drinking their black coffee and cigarettes, and
every one of them should look like he's either just
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come from an AA meeting, or he's going to an
AA meeting, or he had so much to drink last
night that he needs an AA meeting. That's that's what
an old diner should be. So when when he opened
uh Gumbo Diner, I thought, well, that's just it's not
any good. But it turned out fantastic. And then they
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got another one over off of off of the strand
one street over was that ship's mechanics row.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then we went to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We strolled along there, said hello to Johnny Smeccha. That's
I guess his business partner in Tequilo's.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You ever been there? Had a fantastic dinner at Now I'll.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Forget everywhere we went with our Our final dinner was
at the Steakhouse at San Louis, which, for my money,
the San Luis is Galveston to me. We have so
many great experiences, and we know all the staff there
because we used to go almost every weekend, and we
knew all of those folks from Paul show Wols to Uh.
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You know, I'm at a phase in my life from
where I can see somebody's face and I can't recall
their name as fast as I would like to go Lee.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's the craziest thing in the world. But we had
a time, My goodness alive, we had a time.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We We lost Phil Garner, we lost Vic for Tita
And who else did I see? Trying to remember somebody
else that that just passed. They come in threes, and
I'll tell you the third. The third one is somebody
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I didn't know personally who just passed, and I cannot,
for the life of me remember it. Uh, Simon Randolph.
Simon Randolph's name. I couldn't. He didn't pass, but he's Uh.
He's our contact at the San Luis. Oh where else
did we eat? We always eat on Sunday morning on
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the way out at the original Mexican.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm not saying, you know. Everybody want to tell me
it's not the best. I don't hear.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's our tradition. I don't know why you got to
crap on somebody else's parade, but whatever. And John McLear
came and joined us. He used to own the Buffalo Grill.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
He's a hoot.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Then we ate at.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I ate three meals a day two days, which I
never do. But my wife loves it because normally I
only eat dinner. Where else did we eat? I like
to eat my way through Galveston. There's just so many
fun places to eat there. And now they're not coming
to mind. Oh we ate at Waterman's out at Pirates.
That's so we'd actually eat there. We just had a
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drink there, and I did have some oysters. There was
the fattest oysters I've ever seen. Somebody said their farm
raising them now has to be There's no way these
are natural.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's no way these are now.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They're so fat. It was so fat it was hanging,
it was spilling out over the cracker. That's a big
oyster right there where else?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Did we e uh mind you?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Eh girlfriend? Oh my goodness, what was her name?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Esther?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Esther the oyster? What flavor monk? And I met Michael
Berry's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tom Jones is such a fascinating career.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Because he's a sex symbol on a serious level, and
then he's still doing.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That same thing kind of with the tie around his neck.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And he's getting a little old for it, and they're like,
oh so then he's kind of a punchline. But then
he's at it long enough and you're out on a
cruise and your mom's like, there's Tyn Jowes in her mind.
He's still as sexy as ever.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So I said. A guy goes to the.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Doctor and says, Doc, I can't get that song She's
a Lady out of my head.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It keeps repeating and repeating, and it just won't go away.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Doc says, hmmm, sounds like a case of Tom Jones syndrome.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Guy says, I never heard of that? Is it rare?
And the doctor says, it's not unusual. It's a good
assed song out here, it really is. You laugh, it's
not unuse. You want to beat it up by anyone,
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It's not unused. You want to have fun butt anyone.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's the one that perfected that dance move. That the
guy that the Carleton. That's all he did. That's his
one trick.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
He done it. He's still alive. He did it for
eighty years or something. Oh. The restaurants, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
On Saturday, we had breakfast at a place called Sugar
and Rye.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Have you ever been there? That place is good. It's
really good. It's uh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They got a they've got a they've got the same
wallpaper as the colony in uh Palm Beach. I don't
think that's accidental. They got that big green leafy uh
uh look on the wallpaper. And they got a they
got a bar in there. That had TV's on. We
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were watching the UFL team, the Houston team, and I
got excited because their quarterback was Takovloa and I thought,
oh my goodness, it's Tua trying to make a comeback here.
But it wasn't to it. It's his little brother, Toa
or something. I don't know what his name is. It's something.
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It's a Chad will know. But anyway, Sugar and Rye
was the other one and we had dinner.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I guess it was.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Friday or Saturday, and I forget one of the two
at Vargas, which is Rudy and Poco restaurant right across
from Rudy and Paco, and.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We eat at the bar there. I like, a little
low slung bar, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The restaurant is the big, you know, traditional restaurant, cool,
a little more contemporary, probably the most very elegant, you know,
the right colors and all this and airy. But then
they've got the bar that's like you're on the deck
of a ship, you know what I mean, that low
slum bar. And they got a bartender there named Peter,
who is fantastic. He talks when you want him to talk.
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He doesn't talk when you don't want him to talk,
and that is that's a hard thing to know, because
you'll get one that doesn't talk at all that you're
trying to get some information out of and you wish
he knew how to speak your language. And then you'll
get one that won't stop talking because he thinks he's
a star of the show. And it's a hard thing.
It's a hard thing to know the difference. But that's
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a fantastic restaurant as well. And then did I mention
we ate the steakhouse that remains our favorite restaurant. We
ate there same thing. They got the high ceiling in
the main dining room.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I like to go into that old.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Bar because you know that bar has been there since
George Mitchell built it. And it's a bar on a circle,
so you feel like you're on a ship, and you
got everybody sitting around the corner of that bar. We
ate at a booth just to the side, to the
left when you walk in, and at a certain time,
I don't remember when they've got the.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Music that comes in.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I like that a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I like a little you feel like you're on a
cruise ship, even though I've never been on a cruise ship.
I used to watch The Love Boat and you feel
like you're on a cruise ship. You're out there, you
got your guy on the keyboards, and you have people
getting up to dance that would never get up to dance,
but since they're on a cruise they're having a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So it was a good weekend in Galveston. Oh we did,
I mention We drove out to Waterman's out in Pirates. Yeah,
that's also a nice place. So I talked about Vic
Furtida and the loss of Vic Furtida. Who was You
talk about the Ballona's Room, You talk about the history
and Vic Fritida was part of a breakfast group. He
kept trying to get me to come down. I was like, big,
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I gotta do a show. But it was sort of
the old guard of Galveston that would have breakfast every morning.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You gotta come Michael. He had the perfect voice, kind
of slightly rasp me. Michael, you gotta come down. You'd
be such a hit, Michael. They're all your.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Biggest fans used to tell Vicky could be a hand model.
He had the most handsome hands you've ever seen, very long, sinewy,
strong hands. You could just tell this was the guy
that had done some things in his life. I also
wanted to say we lost Phil Garner scrap Iron. Both
of those were listeners of our show, So we lose
two fans that stoked my ego constantly and made me.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Feel just wonderful. What a what a great player, what
a great man, Jim.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Crane said, Phil Garner's contributions to Houston Astro City of
Houston a game of baseball will not be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This was a J Hint a J.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Hinch postgame presser dedicating the Tigers win to former Tiger
Phil Garner.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let me start without a question. I wanna I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Dedicate this win to the Garner family and especially Carol
and the family left behind with Phil.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Passing away.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You know, he wore our uniform for a short period
of time and then personally for me, wore two uniforms
that I've worn in the same position and became a
really close friend. Cared a lot about Detroit and I
had two conversations to share one when I got back
into managing and Houston. He was the first person that
I met in Houston and has introduced me to so
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many of my close friends. And number two, when I
got the job in Detroit, reached out and talking about
the city of Detroit and the fan base, and even
though his time here didn't go great, was a big
advocate for Detroit. And so to Carol and the family,
We're with you and I'm glad we could. We could
have a scrappy win today for a true gentleman in
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the game.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Scrappy win. What a perfect way to say it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
A little mad at him, though, because he lied to me,
because on March third, I said, how is my friend doing?
And he said, just plugging along, taking things a day
at a time. And I think he knew that his
time was short, and I think he didn't want to
be fussed over, and I think he didn't want Tom
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didn't want any attention. I was just scrolling through our
text messages. And on July seventh of last year, he said, Michael,
what's a good charity for me to send money for
flood victims.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's kind of guy he was.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
He heard me talk about Read Ryan and he said,
I've Knoweden Read since he was a pup. This was
last year, a smart young man. Look forward to seeing
what a great guy. We will miss you, Vic Fertita
and Phil Garner, two of the legends gone the Michael
Verie Show, How to be a Fight and Breathe and
then uh Well. The Republican establishment has finally seen the
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writing on the wall. People of Texas don't want John Cornyn.
The Senate Leadership Fund Pack announced last week that it
was committing three hundred and forty two million dollars to
support a slate of candidates across eight states, and John
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Cornyan was not one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
After twenty four years in the Senate, they are cutting
bait Thune.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The Senate Majority leaders Other Pack has not spent any
money on Corning since up nearly eleven million dollars last year.
Their play was dump money into this race early and
squeeze out any challengers. I will argue this till I'm
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blue in the face, but there are a lot of
people who believe that if Wesley Hunt doesn't get in
that race, it doesn't go to a runoff.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I will tell you, having.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Talked to plenty of experts and studied the numbers myself,
if Wesley Hunt doesn't get in that race in a
primary as it was, there's a decent chance.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Corn And wins.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
If you're going to beat an incumbent who has the
power of incumbency, and in his case, a massive power.
He's very close to the Senate leadership. He's very much
an inside he's very much a Beltway swamp creature.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
This is a guy who stabbed Trump in the back
multiple times.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This is a guy who sees Trump as a passing fancy.
Once he's out of there, we can get back to
running things and we won't have to hear from the base.
We can demoralize them, and ever so often we can
say the Democrats are bad, and then we can go
back to partying with them. And what happened was what
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happens in situations like this. It's just like Dewhurst versus Cruise.
In twenty twelve. You had Dewhurst, who was the lieutenant governor,
very wealthy, had never lost an election, been land commissioner
before that, had spent a lot of money across the
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state with Republican women's groups, donating to every one of
their events, had built up a very high popularity, but
never really been challenged, and then Cruz comes out of nowhere.
Twenty ten was the first year of what we came
to call the Tea Party, and the big win that
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year was Marco Rubio in Florida. And then in twenty twelve,
an unknown former state solicitor general lawyer named Ted Cruz
challenges Viz for that Senate seat and manages to take
Dewhurst to a runoff and was trailing going in. But
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everybody knew the incumbent tends to cap out at whatever
they get in the first round. So if they get
what did what did Cornyn get? Forty three, forty four,
forty two percent, low forties. Anyway, that's kind of his
high water mark. Paxton is the uncorn. So you figure
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in a race like that, a twenty four year incumbent
who's just spent one hundred million dollars, I mean, he
has drowned.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Out any opposition With the cash he spent.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
He had the major newspapers feverishly writing what a great
senator he was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, there was a time when that would have mattered.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now, Republican primary voters say, wait a second, when the
Houston Chronicle and the San Antone paper, and the Austin
paper and the Dallas paper, when they're all telling us
how Cornyn is great and we ought to vote for him,
when they're the guys that endorsed Kamala Harris w Well,
that's how we know who not to vote for the
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fact that Cornan is the best of the worst in
their opinion, that's our sign.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's how we know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So Cornyn was at low forties, Paxton also at low forties,
and then Hunt at whatever it was ten or so,
maybe a little more than ten, maybe it's fifteen. But
that meant that three out of five voters had voted
against the incumbent, who had been there for twenty four years,
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who had spent one hundred million dollars, who has universal
name idea, and yet he lost three fitsts of the vote.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That was the sign.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And what is more, when you go to a runoff
in a race like this, and this was the Crew's
Dehurst race in twelve, there are a lot of people
who dutifully vote in a Republican primary. They're older, they're episcopalian,
they're very proper.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They don't like you to rock the boat. These are
Jeb Bush voters.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
In twenty sixteen. These are Bush family voters. They believe
in a proper Republican party. They like Mike penc He's
a proper his shoes are always shine it looks like
he just got a haircut. Nails are nice, nicely polished,
as tie's always done. This is the proper This is
the proper Republican Party of the proper Christians who live
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in the proper neighborhood and do things properly.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They have a lot of guilt. They have two kids who.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Are off at college talking about how their parents are evil,
and they're very supportive because it's their kids. And their
kids are in some sort of communist organization or socialist
organization and they hate American want to destroy it, and
went to the best private schools. This is a very
very common deal. That is that those parents, or at
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least a dad, maybe the mom to or are loyal
traditional Republican Bush voters. And that's the Republican Bush voters.
Gave you the Mitt Romney's, they gave you the George
hw Bush, they gave you they give you the Greg
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Abbott And as long as you got all the money
and nobody can raise any money against you, you just
you get more of the same. But there has become
since twenty ten, a massive outcropping of voters who say
I'm not settling for the fact that you're not a Democrat.
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I want you to do the things we've asked you
to do. I don't just want a Republican party that
claims to be conservative ever so often mentions Christian principles
and keeps us at war all the time, which is
what the Republican Party had become under the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I don't need that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I don't need you to play tough guy with your
saber rattling or how we're going to war when you,
George W.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Bush didn't yourself. We all know the story. So you know, yeah,
the queen seat brings you bias, or Michael Berry brings
your bias. And here's a little wrong through history.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's been thirty years ago today, he sorry, twenty nine
years ago today.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It was nineteen ninety seven. There was a young phenom.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Not only racing his way toward a master's victory, the
youngest ever, but transforming the game of golf as we
know it. I don't know the numbers, but I'll bet
you Steve l Ilkington or Jim Nance or two uh
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boys right there. I'm going to let that be noted,
or some folks with the greater knowledge than me could
than I have could put it into perspective, but a
transformation happened to golf that almost thirty years later is
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the reason you can't get a tea time, and almost
thirty years later is the reason you watched the Masters
when for many people you would not have. And that
was when Tiger Woods became the youngest golfer to win
the Masters tournament, finishing eighteen under par.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Put that into perspective.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Tom Kite at the top of his game place second
with six under par, twelve stroke lead at the Masters.
I'm not a golf expert, but I can tell you
that doesn't happen very often. This was that historic moment.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
So you're not right. That's not where I wanted to
go with this. Do you just not right there? It
is a vent for the ages.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Here's his mom and dad, his father with that bypass
operation six weeks ago, unable to be out on the
course today, but he was there vicariously, step for step
with his son.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
They should be very proud, Jimmy, their only child.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Tiger Woods in a moment like no one has ever
seen at the Masters, shattering record after record after record.
The green jacket will be on his shoulders in just
a moment.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Was he twenty twenty or twenty one? Can't remember. I know,
I know he was in his twenties, and he wasn't
up to twenty two, like he just turned twenty. I
remember at the time thinking I was.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
A year and a half into being a lawyer, and
I thought I was somebody. This dude just won the Masters.
I'm over here schlepping public offerings and K one statements
thinking I'm somebody at seventy eight thousand dollars a year,
he's just won the Masters. What have I done with
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my life? So Tiger Woods should first and foremost be
remembered as a man who took golf to the masses,
as the greatest of his era. I cannot compare him
to prior eras, but I have spoken to some some
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pretty big luminaries in the golf world, and I won't
say who said what. Steve Elkington, who's a good friend
of mine, claims that that that my historical standards, Tiger
Woods holds up to anybody. And the reason for that
is this, when when you compare historical eras, you got
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to consider, you know, Havlicek was a great player, in
his time. Bob Coosey was a great player in his time,
but they didn't play against the they didn't play in
the glory days of the Lakers Celtics seventy six ers,
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when you had, in my opinion, kind of the heyday
of sports.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know. I don't know how Tiger would have
compared to Palmer and Nicholas.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It'd be interesting to know. I don't know to what
extent the course has changed. I don't know what extent
the club's changed. I do think it's more competitive because
there's a lot more money involved, and when the Saudi's
and the Middle Easterners got involved, and when the TV
contracts came along, I think it became incredibly more competitive.
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I look at tennis. I'm a McEnroe nutt. I love Connors,
I love Sammy Giammalva.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I love that era.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't love Yvonne Lindall, but I appreciate him. I
loved the Swedes. I love Pat Cash, the Australian. I
loved the Swedes, Stefan Edinburgh and Yonder's a red Yall Reid,
who was the one that won the French at seventeen,
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MAT's Vlander.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I'll pretend that you told me that. Thank you, Ramone.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yes MAT's Vlander Rod Flavor was Australian, but yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Stan Smith, Kenny Rosewall. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
My point to say this is this will make a
lot of people mad, and I don't care. Tiger's quote
unquote crime is driving. His crime is not his painkiller addiction.
Obviously he has one, but that's not a crime. That
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is something that you could argue he chooses, and sure
he does. But I think the guy is in a
great deal of chronic pain all the time. You know,
he should have lost his foot in the last accident.
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I don't think the golf swing is natural to the
human body. You just look at it and you think
about how the human body is built, and you think
about striking the ball with the torque of the twist
of your body, considering I've had the tiniest of back
problems and they have laid me out.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So you think about if you've ever suffered from back problems.
Doesn't just take his back problems alone.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
If you've ever suffered from back problems, you understand what
chronic back pain does to you. It's debilitating, A non
sufferer cannot understand it. Now you add to that all
the other things. You add the pressure of being his
dad was tough on him, and it's why he was
a great golf player. I think he missed a childhood.
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You know, I don't make excuses for Michael Jackson's what
I think was pedophilia, But I think Michael Jackson had
some of the saying. You know, when a child does
not have a normal upbringing, and when a child is
the breadwinner as a young child, and when a child
has adults kissing their ass from a childhood, from childhood,
I think that can create dysfunction for you. Following traffic
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laws for instance, I wish they'd get him a driver.
Obviously he doesn't want that, and he's got his own reasons,
and Lord knows what those are. But his crimes are
related to driving, not murdering Anybody's not raping anybody. He's
self medicating or medicating to some extent, and.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Then he's driving. He just stopped driving. We could stop
dealing with this. And I feel bad for the guy
It's that time time time lucking Lord, the Michael Verde
Show is on the air. You'll get into Mica. We
gotta beat every beard.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I don't plan to shave, and it's you the thing,
but I just.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Gotta see I'm doing it all right, will.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm big Spot's beating Verdictude and that's the.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
True Gotta go to the doctor and says doctor, I
can't get that song She's a Lady out of my mind.
It keeps repeating and repeating, and it just won't go away.
The doctor says, hmm, sounds like a case of Tom
Jones syndrome. The guy says, I never heard of that?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Is it rare?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And the doctor says, good week. Ramal me too.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
They say that having fish tanks can help soothe mental
and physical pain.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's probably because of all the indoor fins.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, we lost two greats this past week, the great
Phil Garner scrap Iron from the heyday Astros period. For me,
the time when I when I worship those Astros. You know,
when you're a Little League ballplayer and you're Houston Astros
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in the Astra Dome, you'd be fascinating. If it was
possible to go back and look on a chart of
how many home runs some of those guys had that
would have been a home run in minute made slash sorry,
in in run slash minute made slash diken. It would
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have been really interesting to see the difference, especially right
handed pull hitters to that left field Crawford box golee.
That would have been something else, wouldn't it? Talk about
that in the moment. We also lost the patriarch of
Tilman Fritita's family, his father Vic, who was a legend
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on the island. We were down in Galveston all weekend
and it was really nice to see at Danny Heart's.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did Danny Heart? Yeah, Danny Hart's place.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The uh this happens at a certain age Gumbo Diner
used to be the old.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Wow, I'm only fifty four, used to be the old Kettle,
Dutch Kettle. Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We would wear that place out. My wife would always
ask me what I liked so much about it. We
would go down to the Uh San Louis a lot.
The kids were younger, we'd never leave that pool. They
loved that pool and the water slide and all that.
And then our tradition on Sunday morning was we did
it at I'm sorry. On Saturday morning was would eat
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at the Dutch Kettle, and that place was treat My
wife and kids couldn't understand why I liked it so much,
because there'd be people smoking in there, and to me,
a proper breakfast diner should be exactly what that was, which.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Is the acrid smell of smoke.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The waitresses should all look like they've done at least
a little time in if not prison jail for shoplifting
and maybe stabbing an X, you know, but it was justified,
so they lessened the sentence. And the guys in there
should all look like any one of them could be
an ex con, but you're not sure which one.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They got the old you know.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They got the old Pope by of the sailor tattoo
on their forearm, you know, a cigarette dangling, dropping ash
on the floor, raspy voice coughing up along every every
ever so often drinking their black coffee and cigarettes, and
every one of them should look like he's either just
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come from an AA meeting, or he's going to an
AA meeting, or he had so much to drink last
night that he needs an AA meeting. That's that's what
an old diner should be. So when when he opened
uh Gumbo Diner, I thought, well, that's just it's not
any good. But it turned out fantastic. And then they
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got another one over off of off of the strand
one street over was that ship's mechanics row.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then we went to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We strolled along there, said hello to Johnny Smeccha. That's
I guess his business partner in Tequilo's.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You ever been there? Had a fantastic dinner at Now I'll.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Forget everywhere we went with our Our final dinner was
at the Steakhouse at San Louis, which, for my money,
the San Luis is Galveston to me. We have so
many great experiences, and we know all the staff there
because we used to go almost every weekend, and we
knew all of those folks from Paul show Wols to Uh.
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You know, I'm at a phase in my life from
where I can see somebody's face and I can't recall
their name as fast as I would like to go Lee.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's the craziest thing in the world. But we had
a time, My goodness alive, we had a time.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We We lost Phil Garner, we lost Vic for Tita
And who else did I see? Trying to remember somebody
else that that just passed. They come in threes, and
I'll tell you the third. The third one is somebody
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I didn't know personally who just passed, and I cannot,
for the life of me remember it. Uh, Simon Randolph.
Simon Randolph's name. I couldn't. He didn't pass, but he's Uh.
He's our contact at the San Luis. Oh where else
did we eat? We always eat on Sunday morning on
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the way out at the original Mexican.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm not saying, you know. Everybody want to tell me
it's not the best. I don't hear.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's our tradition. I don't know why you got to
crap on somebody else's parade, but whatever. And John McLear
came and joined us. He used to own the Buffalo Grill.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
He's a hoot.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Then we ate at.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I ate three meals a day two days, which I
never do. But my wife loves it because normally I
only eat dinner. Where else did we eat? I like
to eat my way through Galveston. There's just so many
fun places to eat there. And now they're not coming
to mind. Oh we ate at Waterman's out at Pirates.
That's so we'd actually eat there. We just had a
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drink there, and I did have some oysters. There was
the fattest oysters I've ever seen. Somebody said their farm
raising them now has to be There's no way these
are natural.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's no way these are now.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They're so fat. It was so fat it was hanging,
it was spilling out over the cracker. That's a big
oyster right there where else?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Did we e uh mind you?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Eh girlfriend? Oh my goodness, what was her name?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Esther?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Esther the oyster? What flavor monk? And I met Michael
Berry's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Tom Jones is such a fascinating career.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Because he's a sex symbol on a serious level, and
then he's still doing.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
That same thing kind of with the tie around his neck.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And he's getting a little old for it, and they're like,
oh so then he's kind of a punchline. But then
he's at it long enough and you're out on a
cruise and your mom's like, there's Tyn Jowes in her mind.
He's still as sexy as ever.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So I said. A guy goes to the.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Doctor and says, Doc, I can't get that song She's
a Lady out of my head.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It keeps repeating and repeating, and it just won't go away.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Doc says, hmmm, sounds like a case of Tom Jones syndrome.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Guy says, I never heard of that? Is it rare?
And the doctor says, it's not unusual. It's a good
assed song out here, it really is. You laugh, it's
not unuse. You want to beat it up by anyone,
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It's not unused. You want to have fun butt anyone.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's the one that perfected that dance move. That the
guy that the Carleton. That's all he did. That's his
one trick.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
He done it. He's still alive. He did it for
eighty years or something. Oh. The restaurants, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
On Saturday, we had breakfast at a place called Sugar
and Rye.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Have you ever been there? That place is good. It's
really good. It's uh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They got a they've got a they've got the same
wallpaper as the colony in uh Palm Beach. I don't
think that's accidental. They got that big green leafy uh
uh look on the wallpaper. And they got a they
got a bar in there. That had TV's on. We
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were watching the UFL team, the Houston team, and I
got excited because their quarterback was Takovloa and I thought,
oh my goodness, it's Tua trying to make a comeback here.
But it wasn't to it. It's his little brother, Toa
or something. I don't know what his name is. It's something.
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It's a Chad will know. But anyway, Sugar and Rye
was the other one and we had dinner.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I guess it was.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Friday or Saturday, and I forget one of the two
at Vargas, which is Rudy and Poco restaurant right across
from Rudy and Paco, and.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We eat at the bar there. I like, a little
low slung bar, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The restaurant is the big, you know, traditional restaurant, cool,
a little more contemporary, probably the most very elegant, you know,
the right colors and all this and airy. But then
they've got the bar that's like you're on the deck
of a ship, you know what I mean, that low
slum bar. And they got a bartender there named Peter,
who is fantastic. He talks when you want him to talk.
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He doesn't talk when you don't want him to talk,
and that is that's a hard thing to know, because
you'll get one that doesn't talk at all that you're
trying to get some information out of and you wish
he knew how to speak your language. And then you'll
get one that won't stop talking because he thinks he's
a star of the show. And it's a hard thing.
It's a hard thing to know the difference. But that's
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a fantastic restaurant as well. And then did I mention
we ate the steakhouse that remains our favorite restaurant. We
ate there same thing. They got the high ceiling in
the main dining room.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But I like to go into that old.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Bar because you know that bar has been there since
George Mitchell built it. And it's a bar on a circle,
so you feel like you're on a ship, and you
got everybody sitting around the corner of that bar. We
ate at a booth just to the side, to the
left when you walk in, and at a certain time,
I don't remember when they've got the.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Music that comes in.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I like that a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I like a little you feel like you're on a
cruise ship, even though I've never been on a cruise ship.
I used to watch The Love Boat and you feel
like you're on a cruise ship. You're out there, you
got your guy on the keyboards, and you have people
getting up to dance that would never get up to dance,
but since they're on a cruise they're having a good time.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So it was a good weekend in Galveston. Oh we did,
I mention We drove out to Waterman's out in Pirates. Yeah,
that's also a nice place. So I talked about Vic
Furtida and the loss of Vic Furtida. Who was You
talk about the Ballona's Room, You talk about the history
and Vic Fritida was part of a breakfast group. He
kept trying to get me to come down. I was like, big,
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I gotta do a show. But it was sort of
the old guard of Galveston that would have breakfast every morning.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You gotta come Michael. He had the perfect voice, kind
of slightly rasp me. Michael, you gotta come down. You'd
be such a hit, Michael. They're all your.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Biggest fans used to tell Vicky could be a hand model.
He had the most handsome hands you've ever seen, very long, sinewy,
strong hands. You could just tell this was the guy
that had done some things in his life. I also
wanted to say we lost Phil Garner scrap Iron. Both
of those were listeners of our show, So we lose
two fans that stoked my ego constantly and made me.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Feel just wonderful. What a what a great player, what
a great man, Jim.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Crane said, Phil Garner's contributions to Houston Astro City of
Houston a game of baseball will not be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This was a J Hint a J.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Hinch postgame presser dedicating the Tigers win to former Tiger
Phil Garner.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let me start without a question. I wanna I want to.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Dedicate this win to the Garner family and especially Carol
and the family left behind with Phil.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Passing away.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You know, he wore our uniform for a short period
of time and then personally for me, wore two uniforms
that I've worn in the same position and became a
really close friend. Cared a lot about Detroit and I
had two conversations to share one when I got back
into managing and Houston. He was the first person that
I met in Houston and has introduced me to so
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many of my close friends. And number two, when I
got the job in Detroit, reached out and talking about
the city of Detroit and the fan base, and even
though his time here didn't go great, was a big
advocate for Detroit. And so to Carol and the family,
We're with you and I'm glad we could. We could
have a scrappy win today for a true gentleman in
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the game.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Scrappy win. What a perfect way to say it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
A little mad at him, though, because he lied to me,
because on March third, I said, how is my friend doing?
And he said, just plugging along, taking things a day
at a time. And I think he knew that his
time was short, and I think he didn't want to
be fussed over, and I think he didn't want Tom
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didn't want any attention. I was just scrolling through our
text messages. And on July seventh of last year, he said, Michael,
what's a good charity for me to send money for
flood victims.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's kind of guy he was.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
He heard me talk about Read Ryan and he said,
I've Knoweden Read since he was a pup. This was
last year, a smart young man. Look forward to seeing
what a great guy. We will miss you, Vic Fertita
and Phil Garner, two of the legends gone the Michael
Verie Show, How to be a Fight and Breathe and
then uh Well. The Republican establishment has finally seen the
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writing on the wall. People of Texas don't want John Cornyn.
The Senate Leadership Fund Pack announced last week that it
was committing three hundred and forty two million dollars to
support a slate of candidates across eight states, and John
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Cornyan was not one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
After twenty four years in the Senate, they are cutting
bait Thune.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The Senate Majority leaders Other Pack has not spent any
money on Corning since up nearly eleven million dollars last year.
Their play was dump money into this race early and
squeeze out any challengers. I will argue this till I'm
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blue in the face, but there are a lot of
people who believe that if Wesley Hunt doesn't get in
that race, it doesn't go to a runoff.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I will tell you, having.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Talked to plenty of experts and studied the numbers myself,
if Wesley Hunt doesn't get in that race in a
primary as it was, there's a decent chance.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Corn And wins.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
If you're going to beat an incumbent who has the
power of incumbency, and in his case, a massive power.
He's very close to the Senate leadership. He's very much
an inside he's very much a Beltway swamp creature.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
This is a guy who stabbed Trump in the back
multiple times.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This is a guy who sees Trump as a passing fancy.
Once he's out of there, we can get back to
running things and we won't have to hear from the base.
We can demoralize them, and ever so often we can
say the Democrats are bad, and then we can go
back to partying with them. And what happened was what
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happens in situations like this. It's just like Dewhurst versus Cruise.
In twenty twelve. You had Dewhurst, who was the lieutenant governor,
very wealthy, had never lost an election, been land commissioner
before that, had spent a lot of money across the
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state with Republican women's groups, donating to every one of
their events, had built up a very high popularity, but
never really been challenged, and then Cruz comes out of nowhere.
Twenty ten was the first year of what we came
to call the Tea Party, and the big win that
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year was Marco Rubio in Florida. And then in twenty twelve,
an unknown former state solicitor general lawyer named Ted Cruz
challenges Viz for that Senate seat and manages to take
Dewhurst to a runoff and was trailing going in. But
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everybody knew the incumbent tends to cap out at whatever
they get in the first round. So if they get
what did what did Cornyn get? Forty three, forty four,
forty two percent, low forties. Anyway, that's kind of his
high water mark. Paxton is the uncorn. So you figure
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in a race like that, a twenty four year incumbent
who's just spent one hundred million dollars, I mean, he
has drowned.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Out any opposition With the cash he spent.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
He had the major newspapers feverishly writing what a great
senator he was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, there was a time when that would have mattered.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now, Republican primary voters say, wait a second, when the
Houston Chronicle and the San Antone paper, and the Austin
paper and the Dallas paper, when they're all telling us
how Cornyn is great and we ought to vote for him,
when they're the guys that endorsed Kamala Harris w Well,
that's how we know who not to vote for the
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fact that Cornan is the best of the worst in
their opinion, that's our sign.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's how we know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So Cornyn was at low forties, Paxton also at low forties,
and then Hunt at whatever it was ten or so,
maybe a little more than ten, maybe it's fifteen. But
that meant that three out of five voters had voted
against the incumbent, who had been there for twenty four years,
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who had spent one hundred million dollars, who has universal
name idea, and yet he lost three fitsts of the vote.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That was the sign.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And what is more, when you go to a runoff
in a race like this, and this was the Crew's
Dehurst race in twelve, there are a lot of people
who dutifully vote in a Republican primary. They're older, they're episcopalian,
they're very proper.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They don't like you to rock the boat. These are
Jeb Bush voters.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
In twenty sixteen. These are Bush family voters. They believe
in a proper Republican party. They like Mike penc He's
a proper his shoes are always shine it looks like
he just got a haircut. Nails are nice, nicely polished,
as tie's always done. This is the proper This is
the proper Republican Party of the proper Christians who live
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in the proper neighborhood and do things properly.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They have a lot of guilt. They have two kids who.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Are off at college talking about how their parents are evil,
and they're very supportive because it's their kids. And their
kids are in some sort of communist organization or socialist
organization and they hate American want to destroy it, and
went to the best private schools. This is a very
very common deal. That is that those parents, or at
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least a dad, maybe the mom to or are loyal
traditional Republican Bush voters. And that's the Republican Bush voters.
Gave you the Mitt Romney's, they gave you the George
hw Bush, they gave you they give you the Greg
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Abbott And as long as you got all the money
and nobody can raise any money against you, you just
you get more of the same. But there has become
since twenty ten, a massive outcropping of voters who say
I'm not settling for the fact that you're not a Democrat.
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I want you to do the things we've asked you
to do. I don't just want a Republican party that
claims to be conservative ever so often mentions Christian principles
and keeps us at war all the time, which is
what the Republican Party had become under the Bushes.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I don't need that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I don't need you to play tough guy with your
saber rattling or how we're going to war when you,
George W.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Bush didn't yourself. We all know the story. So you know, yeah,
the queen seat brings you bias, or Michael Berry brings
your bias. And here's a little wrong through history.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's been thirty years ago today, he sorry, twenty nine
years ago today.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It was nineteen ninety seven. There was a young phenom.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Not only racing his way toward a master's victory, the
youngest ever, but transforming the game of golf as we
know it. I don't know the numbers, but I'll bet
you Steve l Ilkington or Jim Nance or two uh
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boys right there. I'm going to let that be noted,
or some folks with the greater knowledge than me could
than I have could put it into perspective, but a
transformation happened to golf that almost thirty years later is
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the reason you can't get a tea time, and almost
thirty years later is the reason you watched the Masters
when for many people you would not have. And that
was when Tiger Woods became the youngest golfer to win
the Masters tournament, finishing eighteen under par.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Put that into perspective.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Tom Kite at the top of his game place second
with six under par, twelve stroke lead at the Masters.
I'm not a golf expert, but I can tell you
that doesn't happen very often. This was that historic moment.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
So you're not right. That's not where I wanted to
go with this. Do you just not right there? It
is a vent for the ages.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Here's his mom and dad, his father with that bypass
operation six weeks ago, unable to be out on the
course today, but he was there vicariously, step for step
with his son.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
They should be very proud, Jimmy, their only child.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Tiger Woods in a moment like no one has ever
seen at the Masters, shattering record after record after record.
The green jacket will be on his shoulders in just
a moment.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Was he twenty twenty or twenty one? Can't remember. I know,
I know he was in his twenties, and he wasn't
up to twenty two, like he just turned twenty. I
remember at the time thinking I was.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
A year and a half into being a lawyer, and
I thought I was somebody. This dude just won the Masters.
I'm over here schlepping public offerings and K one statements
thinking I'm somebody at seventy eight thousand dollars a year,
he's just won the Masters. What have I done with
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my life? So Tiger Woods should first and foremost be
remembered as a man who took golf to the masses,
as the greatest of his era. I cannot compare him
to prior eras, but I have spoken to some some
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pretty big luminaries in the golf world, and I won't
say who said what. Steve Elkington, who's a good friend
of mine, claims that that that my historical standards, Tiger
Woods holds up to anybody. And the reason for that
is this, when when you compare historical eras, you got
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to consider, you know, Havlicek was a great player, in
his time. Bob Coosey was a great player in his time,
but they didn't play against the they didn't play in
the glory days of the Lakers Celtics seventy six ers,
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when you had, in my opinion, kind of the heyday
of sports.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know. I don't know how Tiger would have
compared to Palmer and Nicholas.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It'd be interesting to know. I don't know to what
extent the course has changed. I don't know what extent
the club's changed. I do think it's more competitive because
there's a lot more money involved, and when the Saudi's
and the Middle Easterners got involved, and when the TV
contracts came along, I think it became incredibly more competitive.
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I look at tennis. I'm a McEnroe nutt. I love Connors,
I love Sammy Giammalva.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I love that era.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't love Yvonne Lindall, but I appreciate him. I
loved the Swedes. I love Pat Cash, the Australian. I
loved the Swedes, Stefan Edinburgh and Yonder's a red Yall Reid,
who was the one that won the French at seventeen,
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MAT's Vlander.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I'll pretend that you told me that. Thank you, Ramone.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yes MAT's Vlander Rod Flavor was Australian, but yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Stan Smith, Kenny Rosewall. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
My point to say this is this will make a
lot of people mad, and I don't care. Tiger's quote
unquote crime is driving. His crime is not his painkiller addiction.
Obviously he has one, but that's not a crime. That
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is something that you could argue he chooses, and sure
he does. But I think the guy is in a
great deal of chronic pain all the time. You know,
he should have lost his foot in the last accident.
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I don't think the golf swing is natural to the
human body. You just look at it and you think
about how the human body is built, and you think
about striking the ball with the torque of the twist
of your body, considering I've had the tiniest of back
problems and they have laid me out.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So you think about if you've ever suffered from back problems.
Doesn't just take his back problems alone.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
If you've ever suffered from back problems, you understand what
chronic back pain does to you. It's debilitating, A non
sufferer cannot understand it. Now you add to that all
the other things. You add the pressure of being his
dad was tough on him, and it's why he was
a great golf player. I think he missed a childhood.
(31:48):
You know, I don't make excuses for Michael Jackson's what
I think was pedophilia, But I think Michael Jackson had
some of the saying. You know, when a child does
not have a normal upbringing, and when a child is
the breadwinner as a young child, and when a child
has adults kissing their ass from a childhood, from childhood,
I think that can create dysfunction for you. Following traffic
(32:09):
laws for instance, I wish they'd get him a driver.
Obviously he doesn't want that, and he's got his own reasons,
and Lord knows what those are. But his crimes are
related to driving, not murdering Anybody's not raping anybody. He's
self medicating or medicating to some extent, and.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Then he's driving. He just stopped driving. We could stop
dealing with this. And I feel bad for the guy
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