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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The phone lines are open seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand.
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To get in early before they fill up. Seven one
three nine nine one thousand. Has your weeklone or blown?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Was there a subject on the show you wanted to discuss?
Might it be Iran, might it be the midterms? Or
it could be personal nature? Whatever that is?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Seven one three nine nine nine one.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thousand, You can always email me through the website Michael
Berryshow dot com Michael Berryshow dot com. We're gonna start
a little earlier than usually, Chris to mix it up,
get us started. Curtasy of the Greatest executive Producer in
all the Land, Chatt of Coney n an issue old
Week in Review.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well Borgary suspect had to be rescued from insight at
chimney home. Wonder believes that the suspects climbed the fence,
got onto the roof, got onto the chimney, took the
top off, and then climbed down beat first. But that's
where his plans went up in smoke. All of a sudden,
I started hearing ooh, ooh.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Inside the fireplace, and this guy is speaking Spanish and
he was pricking. You walk from the southern tip of
Mexico to get to Texas. You stand around all day
at the home depot, and you decide, I'm going to
break into that house right there, But how will I
get in? They made a door for man, but I
shan't do that. I will make like a turtle dove
(01:46):
and enter the chimney and hope the flu is open.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Digital Age has one Los Angeles man very upset
with a Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
He says the team refuses to print his ticket this year.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
To notice that no longer will I be able to
get printed tickets.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He says, the team told him they've gone fully digital
and printing tickets is no longer an option.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a problem for Errol. He doesn't use a computer.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Fifteen years, five generations.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I've had these tickets fifty years and they threw me
under the buck.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Pull it up on your phone. I don't use a phone.
It's a flip phone. I don't have a computer. I
can't do that. I want to go to the game.
I'm willing to pay you for it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
There's so many ways that people lose their soul over technology.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
This is sixteen hundred am kgt our range textions and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I say, baby, RS, could you play Snaky's name for Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Out Michliz ash youre can Michael? You just hang on
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But in my mind it was going to sound like
a great warrior had called in, you know, clauw you come,
we make baby we ain't climb mounted.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But instead it was RC could.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You gt now leaves the air to return tomorrow morning
six oul'clock.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The son of a new lonky.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Michael?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Said?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The boy asked his mom, Mama can trees poop? Mom said,
where do you think number two pencils come from? Fella
asked his wife what she wanted for her birthday? She
said a divorce. He said, I wasn't planning on spending
(04:04):
that much. What did the Dalmatians say? After he ate
his breakfast? That really hit the spot? Loo, you are
the first caller of the week. Welcome to the program,
(04:24):
Open Line Friday, Take it away.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Thank you, mister Barry. First, I'd like to thank you
for being such a staunch supporter, a staunch, on wavering
supporter of local area businesses in general and restaurants in particular.
And I also like to say thank you. I was
one of the goukabs of individuals that showed up and
answered the call when Mighty Berger called in to you
three years ago. Oh yeah, went out there and had
(04:49):
a great burger and had a great time and it
was all good. I supported local area business and I
felt good about that. Are they sorry?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Are they still open, Michael?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay, yeah, are they still open?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Well, according to the web, they are. I didn't actually
go by and take a look.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well I'm calling you today, Michael. I'm on location at
Plumb Coffee Shop in Cypress, Texas. And that's okay. That
one one six eight eight Barker Cypress Roads. I'm standing
out here at Barker Cypress holding up a sign as
I am talking to you right now, sir, and I
ain't kidding neither. Do you want to know what that
sign says?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Michael? I do it says Houston to the Rescue.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Once I wrapped up my podcast, they let me do
a podcast here every other week. Once I wrapped up
my podcast, Yes, sir, I tried the black line, but
it didn't go through.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, that's what I was going to tell you. Okay,
because you can move to the front of the line.
I just happened to get to you first, but you
could have been left waiting. Okay, all right, Houston to
the rescue. What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
A podcast is called the plumb Chair Podcast. But it's
in a vault right now. It's not available to the pub.
And I've interviewed quite a few local area professionals and
business owners and.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How coming to me to the public.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Well, I want to get it on YouTube. And there's
music in the background of some of them, and be cautious.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I got you, I got you. Yeah, No, that makes sense,
good call.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
All right, go ahead, okay, but I'm standing. I'm holding
up this sign as people are driving by. And here's
the deal. Michael Linz and Jerry have been serving up
love and coffee for now I'm fifteen years and fifteen
years ago they weren't poinked on both sides by Starbucks.
And now you got this new Horton deal that popped up.
And when I wrapped up my podcast Tuesday, Liz just
(06:36):
told me off handedly, we're going to throw in the time.
We can't handle this, and I said negative ghost writer.
I'm calling Michael Berry. I'm calling this are off talk radio,
and we'll just see about that. So I called on Tuesday,
towards the end of the show on Ramon, A real
nice fellow by the way. He took my call. He said,
you had a long interview. Maybe he can get your own.
Maybe not. And I went head and held on And
(06:57):
then at the end of the show, I kept line
open as I drove back to the office and the
moon came on. Man after the show was over, he
came on, called me by name and said, Hey, couldn't
get you on lunch. You call back Friday. I said, yes,
I will do that, So I did that. Now I'm
out here at Plumb, like I say, holding up this
sign here. They've been doing their thing for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's what'd you say? One one six eight.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Eight one one eight eight.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know what I don't understand, bo. This irritates me.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
When you get outside the loop, You've got streets that
don't run that far, and it's not like they're you know,
like with Maine, I can see needing five numbers. Five
numbers is so much harder than four numbers, right.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I agree, But Texas is just loaded with the five.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So yeah, it's it's harder. It's a whole lot harder
for me to remember five numbers than four. It's do
they have a whip? Let me see if I can
look it up. It's the Plum Coffee Shop.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yes, sir, Plumb Coffee Shop.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, I said, okay, we got a website all right.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
There in the streets there. Ramon took a look at
their establishment. He liked what he saw. That's why he
asked me to call back.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well, you're giving Ramon a lot more credit than I
think he probably deserves from being honest.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Let's see here. It's a nice website, got coffee beans everywhere. Yeah,
let's see. Okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Now here's the thing, Michael, here's a common factor. On
Barker Cypress Road at this time of day. You see
cars as far as you see, bumper the bumper, two
by two, all of them voying for the opportunity to
be five wide, bumper to bumper as far as I
can see on two ninety in bound. I'll bet a
bunch of those people listen to the Michael Barry Show
(08:40):
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, that's a high density area for us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And I'm also willing to bet that a bunch of
those people went knocked a cup of coffee off of
some shelf somewhere. And all I'm saying today is, if
you want to keep a local area business with a
soul around, just one day a week, hit the brake,
go to the drive through. They have a drive through
for your convenience, and grab a cup of coffee from
from Jerry and Liz, And two really good things will
(09:07):
happen by virtue of that. Number One, you're gonna support
a local area business, which you'll feel good about, and
then number two, you're gonna get a fabulous cup of
coffee because they are deans of the bean.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But let me ask you a couple of questions. What
is your last name?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, Scrooge s c R O g E.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Literally, yeah, that's your that's your podcast name. What is
your real name?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Oh, I'm not a livery to give.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh do you really go about bot Scrooge?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Absolutely yeah, you can find me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
All right, So you do a podcast called what.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
The podcast is called the Plumb Chair Podcast. Okay, okay, Michael,
I'm gonna have to walk inside the plum because the
traffic is too loud, and I don't want you to
have to keep repeating yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Okay, because I hear you. Just fine, You've got you've
got a good voice. You're very clear. You must have
an iPhone because it's it's uh, it's uh, it's blocking
out everything else.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
No, actually it's a droid. It's a droid.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh well, okay, what do you do for LYVMBO?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I am a menu proct consultant and I served small
independent restaurants, mom and pop restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I talked to you once before.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You have a phenomenal memory.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I didn't remember the name, and honestly, sadly, I didn't
remember the voice, but I remember you telling me that story,
and I believe it was a third Ward restaurant that's
been years ago, that you that we were talking about
you helping them with the menu, But I don't remember
third Ward or Midtown or might have been Upper Kirby. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:41):
I definitely remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah, that's very good. It's actually more Midtown is and
I'm not sure if there's still around. And I almost
don't even remember the name, it's been so long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, but you are a.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Good friend to Jerry and Liz at the Plum Creek
Coffee shop there on its Barker Cypress and what.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Barker Cypress just to the east of two ninety. You
can't miss it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
All right, We're gonna send you some people by right now.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Well, I appreciate it, Michael.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
With you master, you can collect lots of program reels
on cards in and gift sets.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like Surf the Michael Verry Show. He sold separately to the.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Phone lines and we go, John, You're on the Michael
Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Go ahead, sir, Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
How you doing, Michael?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Look here I heard you say a while night before
I get into what we were talking about the other day.
And if they get to it about Pat Green, remember
that song. You have some listeners calling in and say, well,
we can't find the song Friday's coming. Yeah, And well
I looked up and got it. I forgot that I
(11:49):
had recorded it because you used to play the whole song.
And I got that recording, and then I downloaded it
off of YouTube out after that flood. YouTube took it out,
and and I just looked up about two weeks ago
and found the song. I was looking for a movie
(12:11):
on my Google photo, uh Bill, and I found the
song just like that. It's got the little wine bobble
or whiskey ball or something. And so I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Sorry I lost where You're able you were able to
find it where.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Off of YouTube, But this was before the flood. This
was before the flood. After the flood, then YouTube took
it off. I don't know if somebody took it off.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It wasn't on there. And Kerr County, yes, sir, okay,
you know Pat lost his brother in that flood, right.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Oh yeah, But that was the first time that I've
heard of Pat Green. I heard of Jack green I
don't know whether whether or not they were king or not.
But Jack Greene had a song called all the Time,
and I would hear that on the station that you
might not want me to call the station s chn
(13:13):
and Liberty Day. You might know the guy build the can.
I mean, he's the one that owned that station.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And I do and I don't know that station. But
that's not to speak ill of it. It's just there
are some stations. There are some sort of community radio stations,
which I think is a neat deal that I just
for whatever reason, I don't know him. A lot of
those sticks have set back there their licenses over the
last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The business is very, very very hard.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Our station had the best year it's ever had, and
to my knowledge, the best year a station in Texas
has ever had last year. But I will tell you
most of community radio is suffering. It's it's a and
and that comes not at the expense of us because
it's not the same demographic.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Advertiser that comes at the expense of digital. So you know,
like that Plum coffee shop that was sawing my folks
like that, instead of investing in in let's say, their
local radio if there was one there, they will tend
to do Google keywords. And that has and that's not
(14:25):
to say that that's more effective, but that has killed
the little radio stations that you used to have dot
in the landscape.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's right. They I think that station started because I
caught it just as it was going off. It started
like in the late sixties, and then I caught it
in the mid seventies. But they were playing you know,
older songs, yeah, from the fifteen sixties. Yeah, and that's
why I went out. He was struggling in the you know,
(14:56):
about the two thousands, and so he was kind of
forced to get out.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You're right, you know, it's been my experience in the
little bit of study i've done of kind of i'll
call that a community radio station and smaller stations in
smaller markets that I have, because we've got some of those.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The thing that falls through the crack and the deal
like that is, first of all, the only way a
station like that, almost only way a station like that
can work is if the company that owns it has
an interest in promoting a core business. So you know,
Smith Insurance Company buys it and then they can use
all their unsold inventory to promote Smith Insurance or Jones
(15:40):
Insurance or Thomas Insurance.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That always helps.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It has to start with somebody that already has a
fair amount of money that can if it bleeds a little,
that can feed it, and that's okay, and they can
put their kid in there who wants to be on
the radio, or their wife who wants to be on
the radio.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But the thing that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Falls through the crack, and I see this with a
lot of businesses like that, is they don't actually have
a sales team, and so they assume that sales will
just take care of itself because everybody likes, oh, you know,
crazy Bob who's on in the morning. And it doesn't
work like that. You've got to have a team of people,
or you have to have an a minimum, a person
(16:18):
who is managing the relationships, setting up a schedule, collecting
the cash and bringing it back. It's one of many
things that people who I think run businesses underestimate is
the importance of the financial transaction itself. They think, well,
if we just you know, when things happen in the community,
(16:38):
we talk about it, everybody will love us, and they do,
but how do you give them an opportunity to help
you pay your bills? And in most cases they don't,
so they just kind of catches catch can. There's no
one handling the financial side of the house. And that's
just long term. That's not a winner.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, Michael, one of the main one of his key
people kick the bucket. I don't like to say, the
d worry and after that, right after that that guy
I kicked the bucket. That's when they start going down
because they have these little auctions on the weekend and
stuff like that, and he was all over the commercials
(17:18):
and I forget the guy's name. I got to documented.
I didn't know I was going to get this started
off on Friday's coming, and then I started thinks about
the that station because the but I'll have to go
back and get it, because I do have a lot
of snippets of this guy that would do the little
(17:42):
auctions on the weekend and I love that, right, and
and and one more and then I'll get into do
you remember Ken or Row and Conroe? That could have
been before he was boring man.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Probably my friend Josh Buller's on uh.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I think it's KSE Star, which is also a community station,
and they have an interesting thing. They have not one,
but two people who've been on the radio for one
hundred years of war. They have a woman who I
think she's the longest serving radio talent in the country, which,
by the way, we're probably not far behind in Beaumont
with an iHeart station with Al Callaway.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's been on a number of years.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Oh yeah, man, I remember here. But look what I
really need you're helping is my eyes now now, Doctor
Jeff Wie. I've talked to his office I even tried.
I'm with United health Care and that's one of the
(18:46):
worst insurances you can get, and they had me with
his I mean with that, I was with that insurance coming.
I'm still with them. Uh and they claimed that uh.
Uh Jeff is in the in their network. Uh and
(19:10):
uh but he does a traditional medicare. Now I have
some out of pocket money. This is how bad I
want that operation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
All right, hold on, just I know you don't want
because I'd like you to be a regular on the show.
I know you don't want to be surprisingly black john
And that's fine, and you could be surprisingly blind Johnny.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And all hang out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Going against the grain is what we do on the
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Joe, You're on the Michael Berry Show. What's say you, sir?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Hey, Good mornings our Hey. Yes, I tried to call him.
But yesterday morning you were talking about the astros and
the Astrodome. And I'm sixty eight years old and I
grew up over in the fifth Ward over of cal
A and ten that area until I was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Long story short, Hey, Joe, can you speak right into
the phone, don't.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I don't know if you're in the bottom of a
well or what? But I can barely hear you, Joe,
can you hear me? How much better? What were you?
Were you on speaker or what was going on there?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I have a headset on.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh that never works.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Okay, go ahead, anyway, I can remember uh. In the
yellow seats they had decals on the back of the
seat where Jimmy win which is the toy cannon. Sure
hit a home run in the yellow seats as well
(20:57):
as Terry. But the red rooster Rushy stopped hit a
home running up and have a rooster dedka all on
the yellow stage. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'm yeah, for the sake of this conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes, Holly, you're up? What you got?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Hello. So I heard you on the radio, of course,
on the radio maybe earlier this week or last week,
talking about women with bad filler. And I'm a registered
nurse injector, and that's what I do except natural looking results.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What do you mean naturally.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Natural looking results?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
So the waves?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yes, So there are certain structures that age, you know,
and certain fat pads that are supportive that need to
be replaced if you want to restore a natural looking,
useful appearance. But you know, it's like killers, like paint.
It's only as good as the hands that are.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know what's interesting about that, Holly, is that a
lot of people will comment when someone looks very unnatural.
They'll say that the that the plastic surgeon wasn't good
at what they did, and in fact as if they
had failed the surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
In fact, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What happened is they took that person's face or a
part of the face back to thirty years ago. The
problem is that looks unnatural compared to a neck that
has aged. And so as you say, I think that
the ones that are very good at what they do
are the ones who seem to take some years off
(22:48):
the face, but do so in a more natural way.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You should it shouldn't be obvious that that's what.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I clearly agree.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, where do you apply your trade?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So I work at BCR and Aesthetics on Washington Avenue
right now. I've been in nurse for fifteen years and
got into esthetics about five years ago now, and I
just love it. It's a it was the best career move.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I guess you do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Ramones.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He's asking because Ramone has disturbingly paper thin lips.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's like he doesn't have lips.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So men can get lip filler, but of course it's
a different technique.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are thing that's the one thing about wrong we're
trying to add to oh likeness? How many how many ccs?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Just would you look online and just tell me how
many ccs you think you'd have to put in his
lips for them to be noticeable?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well for men definitely, we're not looking at even an
entire syringe, which is one miller leader one cc. It
does hurt, It does hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Is it? What's not a botosh?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What is the element you're putting in there?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So filler is made from hyaluronic acid. It's something that
you know is naturally occurring in our bodies. And in
those you know, sterile single use syringes, there's light became
in there as well. So it does get more comfortable
as we go. And we also have comfort measures like
(24:25):
topical anesthetics, and you know, sometimes people have a hard
time and there's a product called pronocs we use, so
of course, as long as they're healthy enough to use those.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Do you ever have that are getting do you ever
have people coming in that you you have to tell them, hey, look,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That's what you want. But you're reaching the point that I.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Think it's it's becoming a distraction and does not actually
look good.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, so education is paramount setting expectations and definitely boundaries
because a lot of people you know that don't do
what I do, they don't understand if they get more
cheek fillar because that tends to be a favorite and
it definitely has a place, but cheek filler every year
(25:14):
is not a good idea. That's the way faces end
up getting distorted. And it's definitely like a customized approach.
Not everybody needs cheek filler, and not everybody needs cheek
filler in the same place.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But yeah, I don't they don't seem to realize what
they're doing. But by puffing the cheeks out to make this,
you know, mountain on their cheeks, I don't know if
they're going for the Loretta Limb look or what, but
what they end up doing is making their eyes look
like they've been pushed backward.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And so it gives a fairy together.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It looks like a cadaver look because the disparity between
the cheek and the eye that distance is increasing, and
so the eye is not actually moving, You're just adding
to the cheek. And I see people and I think,
don't you realize how creepy that looks?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So as we age, we do tend to lose volume
in our temples, most of us, and so augmenting collateral
or like outside, you know, closer to the hairline part
of the cheek can definitely like accentuate that and create
more of like a hill and valley, which some people
do age like that. They have very high cheek bones
(26:27):
in their temples. Hollow. But the way you see a
lot of people walking around and you know that they
have color, it's because it's not it's not good.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, can you hold on?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You like her voice, it's growing on them. She's smunky.
But then again that last fell I couldn't hear so that.
I mean, she's already kind of good lead in
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The phone lines are open seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
To get in early before they fill up. Seven one
three nine nine one thousand. Has your weeklone or blown?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Was there a subject on the show you wanted to discuss?
Might it be Iran, might it be the midterms? Or
it could be personal nature? Whatever that is?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Seven one three nine nine nine one.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Thousand, You can always email me through the website Michael
Berryshow dot com Michael Berryshow dot com. We're gonna start
a little earlier than usually, Chris to mix it up,
get us started. Curtasy of the Greatest executive Producer in
all the Land, Chatt of Coney n an issue old
Week in Review.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well Borgary suspect had to be rescued from insight at
chimney home. Wonder believes that the suspects climbed the fence,
got onto the roof, got onto the chimney, took the
top off, and then climbed down beat first. But that's
where his plans went up in smoke. All of a sudden,
I started hearing ooh, ooh.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Inside the fireplace, and this guy is speaking Spanish and
he was pricking. You walk from the southern tip of
Mexico to get to Texas. You stand around all day
at the home depot, and you decide, I'm going to
break into that house right there, But how will I
get in? They made a door for man, but I
shan't do that. I will make like a turtle dove
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and enter the chimney and hope the flu is open.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Digital Age has one Los Angeles man very upset
with a Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
He says the team refuses to print his ticket this year.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
To notice that no longer will I be able to
get printed tickets.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He says, the team told him they've gone fully digital
and printing tickets is no longer an option.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a problem for Errol. He doesn't use a computer.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Fifteen years, five generations.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I've had these tickets fifty years and they threw me
under the buck.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Pull it up on your phone. I don't use a phone.
It's a flip phone. I don't have a computer. I
can't do that. I want to go to the game.
I'm willing to pay you for it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
There's so many ways that people lose their soul over technology.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
This is sixteen hundred am kgt our range textions and.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I say, baby, RS, could you play Snaky's name for Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Out Michliz ash youre can Michael? You just hang on
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But in my mind it was going to sound like
a great warrior had called in, you know, clauw you come,
we make baby we ain't climb mounted.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
But instead it was RC could.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You gt now leaves the air to return tomorrow morning
six oul'clock.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The son of a new lonky.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Michael?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Said?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The boy asked his mom, Mama can trees poop? Mom said,
where do you think number two pencils come from? Fella
asked his wife what she wanted for her birthday? She
said a divorce. He said, I wasn't planning on spending
(04:04):
that much. What did the Dalmatians say? After he ate
his breakfast? That really hit the spot? Loo, you are
the first caller of the week. Welcome to the program,
(04:24):
Open Line Friday, Take it away.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Thank you, mister Barry. First, I'd like to thank you
for being such a staunch supporter, a staunch, on wavering
supporter of local area businesses in general and restaurants in particular.
And I also like to say thank you. I was
one of the goukabs of individuals that showed up and
answered the call when Mighty Berger called in to you
three years ago. Oh yeah, went out there and had
(04:49):
a great burger and had a great time and it
was all good. I supported local area business and I
felt good about that. Are they sorry?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Are they still open, Michael?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Okay, yeah, are they still open?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Well, according to the web, they are. I didn't actually
go by and take a look.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Well I'm calling you today, Michael. I'm on location at
Plumb Coffee Shop in Cypress, Texas. And that's okay. That
one one six eight eight Barker Cypress Roads. I'm standing
out here at Barker Cypress holding up a sign as
I am talking to you right now, sir, and I
ain't kidding neither. Do you want to know what that
sign says?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Michael? I do it says Houston to the Rescue.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Once I wrapped up my podcast, they let me do
a podcast here every other week. Once I wrapped up
my podcast, Yes, sir, I tried the black line, but
it didn't go through.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, that's what I was going to tell you. Okay,
because you can move to the front of the line.
I just happened to get to you first, but you
could have been left waiting. Okay, all right, Houston to
the rescue. What's the name of your podcast?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
A podcast is called the plumb Chair Podcast. But it's
in a vault right now. It's not available to the pub.
And I've interviewed quite a few local area professionals and
business owners and.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
How coming to me to the public.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Well, I want to get it on YouTube. And there's
music in the background of some of them, and be cautious.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I got you, I got you. Yeah, No, that makes sense,
good call.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
All right, go ahead, okay, but I'm standing. I'm holding
up this sign as people are driving by. And here's
the deal. Michael Linz and Jerry have been serving up
love and coffee for now I'm fifteen years and fifteen
years ago they weren't poinked on both sides by Starbucks.
And now you got this new Horton deal that popped up.
And when I wrapped up my podcast Tuesday, Liz just
(06:36):
told me off handedly, we're going to throw in the time.
We can't handle this, and I said negative ghost writer.
I'm calling Michael Berry. I'm calling this are off talk radio,
and we'll just see about that. So I called on Tuesday,
towards the end of the show on Ramon, A real
nice fellow by the way. He took my call. He said,
you had a long interview. Maybe he can get your own.
Maybe not. And I went head and held on And
(06:57):
then at the end of the show, I kept line
open as I drove back to the office and the
moon came on. Man after the show was over, he
came on, called me by name and said, Hey, couldn't
get you on lunch. You call back Friday. I said, yes,
I will do that, So I did that. Now I'm
out here at Plumb, like I say, holding up this
sign here. They've been doing their thing for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's what'd you say? One one six eight.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Eight one one eight eight.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know what I don't understand, bo. This irritates me.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
When you get outside the loop, You've got streets that
don't run that far, and it's not like they're you know,
like with Maine, I can see needing five numbers. Five
numbers is so much harder than four numbers, right.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I agree, But Texas is just loaded with the five.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So yeah, it's it's harder. It's a whole lot harder
for me to remember five numbers than four. It's do
they have a whip? Let me see if I can
look it up. It's the Plum Coffee Shop.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yes, sir, Plumb Coffee Shop.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, I said, okay, we got a website all right.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
There in the streets there. Ramon took a look at
their establishment. He liked what he saw. That's why he
asked me to call back.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well, you're giving Ramon a lot more credit than I
think he probably deserves from being honest.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Let's see here. It's a nice website, got coffee beans everywhere. Yeah,
let's see. Okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Now here's the thing, Michael, here's a common factor. On
Barker Cypress Road at this time of day. You see
cars as far as you see, bumper the bumper, two
by two, all of them voying for the opportunity to
be five wide, bumper to bumper as far as I
can see on two ninety in bound. I'll bet a
bunch of those people listen to the Michael Barry Show
(08:40):
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, that's a high density area for us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And I'm also willing to bet that a bunch of
those people went knocked a cup of coffee off of
some shelf somewhere. And all I'm saying today is, if
you want to keep a local area business with a
soul around, just one day a week, hit the brake,
go to the drive through. They have a drive through
for your convenience, and grab a cup of coffee from
from Jerry and Liz, And two really good things will
(09:07):
happen by virtue of that. Number One, you're gonna support
a local area business, which you'll feel good about, and
then number two, you're gonna get a fabulous cup of
coffee because they are deans of the bean.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But let me ask you a couple of questions. What
is your last name?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, Scrooge s c R O g E.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Literally, yeah, that's your that's your podcast name. What is
your real name?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Oh, I'm not a livery to give.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh do you really go about bot Scrooge?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Absolutely yeah, you can find me.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
All right, So you do a podcast called what.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
The podcast is called the Plumb Chair Podcast. Okay, okay, Michael,
I'm gonna have to walk inside the plum because the
traffic is too loud, and I don't want you to
have to keep repeating yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Okay, because I hear you. Just fine, You've got you've
got a good voice. You're very clear. You must have
an iPhone because it's it's uh, it's uh, it's blocking
out everything else.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
No, actually it's a droid. It's a droid.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh well, okay, what do you do for LYVMBO?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I am a menu proct consultant and I served small
independent restaurants, mom and pop restaurant.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I talked to you once before.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You have a phenomenal memory.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I didn't remember the name, and honestly, sadly, I didn't
remember the voice, but I remember you telling me that story,
and I believe it was a third Ward restaurant that's
been years ago, that you that we were talking about
you helping them with the menu, But I don't remember
third Ward or Midtown or might have been Upper Kirby. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(10:41):
I definitely remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah, that's very good. It's actually more Midtown is and
I'm not sure if there's still around. And I almost
don't even remember the name, it's been so long ago.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, but you are a.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Good friend to Jerry and Liz at the Plum Creek
Coffee shop there on its Barker Cypress and what.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Barker Cypress just to the east of two ninety. You
can't miss it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
All right, We're gonna send you some people by right now.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Well, I appreciate it, Michael.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
With you master, you can collect lots of program reels
on cards in and gift sets.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like Surf the Michael Verry Show. He sold separately to the.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Phone lines and we go, John, You're on the Michael
Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Go ahead, sir, Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
How you doing, Michael?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Look here I heard you say a while night before
I get into what we were talking about the other day.
And if they get to it about Pat Green, remember
that song. You have some listeners calling in and say, well,
we can't find the song Friday's coming. Yeah, And well
I looked up and got it. I forgot that I
(11:49):
had recorded it because you used to play the whole song.
And I got that recording, and then I downloaded it
off of YouTube out after that flood. YouTube took it out,
and and I just looked up about two weeks ago
and found the song. I was looking for a movie
(12:11):
on my Google photo, uh Bill, and I found the
song just like that. It's got the little wine bobble
or whiskey ball or something. And so I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Sorry I lost where You're able you were able to
find it where.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Off of YouTube, But this was before the flood. This
was before the flood. After the flood, then YouTube took
it off. I don't know if somebody took it off.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It wasn't on there. And Kerr County, yes, sir, okay,
you know Pat lost his brother in that flood, right.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Oh yeah, But that was the first time that I've
heard of Pat Green. I heard of Jack green I
don't know whether whether or not they were king or not.
But Jack Greene had a song called all the Time,
and I would hear that on the station that you
might not want me to call the station s chn
(13:13):
and Liberty Day. You might know the guy build the can.
I mean, he's the one that owned that station.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And I do and I don't know that station. But
that's not to speak ill of it. It's just there
are some stations. There are some sort of community radio stations,
which I think is a neat deal that I just
for whatever reason, I don't know him. A lot of
those sticks have set back there their licenses over the
last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The business is very, very very hard.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Our station had the best year it's ever had, and
to my knowledge, the best year a station in Texas
has ever had last year. But I will tell you
most of community radio is suffering. It's it's a and
and that comes not at the expense of us because
it's not the same demographic.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Advertiser that comes at the expense of digital. So you know,
like that Plum coffee shop that was sawing my folks
like that, instead of investing in in let's say, their
local radio if there was one there, they will tend
to do Google keywords. And that has and that's not
(14:25):
to say that that's more effective, but that has killed
the little radio stations that you used to have dot
in the landscape.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's right. They I think that station started because I
caught it just as it was going off. It started
like in the late sixties, and then I caught it
in the mid seventies. But they were playing you know,
older songs, yeah, from the fifteen sixties. Yeah, and that's
why I went out. He was struggling in the you know,
(14:56):
about the two thousands, and so he was kind of
forced to get out.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You're right, you know, it's been my experience in the
little bit of study i've done of kind of i'll
call that a community radio station and smaller stations in
smaller markets that I have, because we've got some of those.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The thing that falls through the crack and the deal
like that is, first of all, the only way a
station like that, almost only way a station like that
can work is if the company that owns it has
an interest in promoting a core business. So you know,
Smith Insurance Company buys it and then they can use
all their unsold inventory to promote Smith Insurance or Jones
(15:40):
Insurance or Thomas Insurance.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That always helps.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It has to start with somebody that already has a
fair amount of money that can if it bleeds a little,
that can feed it, and that's okay, and they can
put their kid in there who wants to be on
the radio, or their wife who wants to be on
the radio.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But the thing that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Falls through the crack, and I see this with a
lot of businesses like that, is they don't actually have
a sales team, and so they assume that sales will
just take care of itself because everybody likes, oh, you know,
crazy Bob who's on in the morning. And it doesn't
work like that. You've got to have a team of people,
or you have to have an a minimum, a person
(16:18):
who is managing the relationships, setting up a schedule, collecting
the cash and bringing it back. It's one of many
things that people who I think run businesses underestimate is
the importance of the financial transaction itself. They think, well,
if we just you know, when things happen in the community,
(16:38):
we talk about it, everybody will love us, and they do,
but how do you give them an opportunity to help
you pay your bills? And in most cases they don't,
so they just kind of catches catch can. There's no
one handling the financial side of the house. And that's
just long term. That's not a winner.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, Michael, one of the main one of his key
people kick the bucket. I don't like to say, the
d worry and after that, right after that that guy
I kicked the bucket. That's when they start going down
because they have these little auctions on the weekend and
stuff like that, and he was all over the commercials
(17:18):
and I forget the guy's name. I got to documented.
I didn't know I was going to get this started
off on Friday's coming, and then I started thinks about
the that station because the but I'll have to go
back and get it, because I do have a lot
of snippets of this guy that would do the little
(17:42):
auctions on the weekend and I love that, right, and
and and one more and then I'll get into do
you remember Ken or Row and Conroe? That could have
been before he was boring man.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Probably my friend Josh Buller's on uh.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I think it's KSE Star, which is also a community station,
and they have an interesting thing. They have not one,
but two people who've been on the radio for one
hundred years of war. They have a woman who I
think she's the longest serving radio talent in the country, which,
by the way, we're probably not far behind in Beaumont
with an iHeart station with Al Callaway.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's been on a number of years.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Oh yeah, man, I remember here. But look what I
really need you're helping is my eyes now now, Doctor
Jeff Wie. I've talked to his office I even tried.
I'm with United health Care and that's one of the
(18:46):
worst insurances you can get, and they had me with
his I mean with that, I was with that insurance coming.
I'm still with them. Uh and they claimed that uh.
Uh Jeff is in the in their network. Uh and
(19:10):
uh but he does a traditional medicare. Now I have
some out of pocket money. This is how bad I
want that operation.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
All right, hold on, just I know you don't want
because I'd like you to be a regular on the show.
I know you don't want to be surprisingly black john
And that's fine, and you could be surprisingly blind Johnny.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And all hang out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Going against the grain is what we do on the
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Joe, You're on the Michael Berry Show. What's say you, sir?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Hey, Good mornings our Hey. Yes, I tried to call him.
But yesterday morning you were talking about the astros and
the Astrodome. And I'm sixty eight years old and I
grew up over in the fifth Ward over of cal
A and ten that area until I was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Long story short, Hey, Joe, can you speak right into
the phone, don't.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I don't know if you're in the bottom of a
well or what? But I can barely hear you, Joe,
can you hear me? How much better? What were you?
Were you on speaker or what was going on there?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I have a headset on.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh that never works.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Okay, go ahead, anyway, I can remember uh. In the
yellow seats they had decals on the back of the
seat where Jimmy win which is the toy cannon. Sure
hit a home run in the yellow seats as well
(20:57):
as Terry. But the red rooster Rushy stopped hit a
home running up and have a rooster dedka all on
the yellow stage. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'm yeah, for the sake of this conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes, Holly, you're up? What you got?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Hello. So I heard you on the radio, of course,
on the radio maybe earlier this week or last week,
talking about women with bad filler. And I'm a registered
nurse injector, and that's what I do except natural looking results.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What do you mean naturally.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Natural looking results?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
So the waves?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yes, So there are certain structures that age, you know,
and certain fat pads that are supportive that need to
be replaced if you want to restore a natural looking,
useful appearance. But you know, it's like killers, like paint.
It's only as good as the hands that are.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know what's interesting about that, Holly, is that a
lot of people will comment when someone looks very unnatural.
They'll say that the that the plastic surgeon wasn't good
at what they did, and in fact as if they
had failed the surgery.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
In fact, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What happened is they took that person's face or a
part of the face back to thirty years ago. The
problem is that looks unnatural compared to a neck that
has aged. And so as you say, I think that
the ones that are very good at what they do
are the ones who seem to take some years off
(22:48):
the face, but do so in a more natural way.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You should it shouldn't be obvious that that's what.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I clearly agree.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, where do you apply your trade?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So I work at BCR and Aesthetics on Washington Avenue
right now. I've been in nurse for fifteen years and
got into esthetics about five years ago now, and I
just love it. It's a it was the best career move.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I guess you do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Ramones.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He's asking because Ramone has disturbingly paper thin lips.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's like he doesn't have lips.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So men can get lip filler, but of course it's
a different technique.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are thing that's the one thing about wrong we're
trying to add to oh likeness? How many how many ccs?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Just would you look online and just tell me how
many ccs you think you'd have to put in his
lips for them to be noticeable?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well for men definitely, we're not looking at even an
entire syringe, which is one miller leader one cc. It
does hurt, It does hurt.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Is it? What's not a botosh?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What is the element you're putting in there?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So filler is made from hyaluronic acid. It's something that
you know is naturally occurring in our bodies. And in
those you know, sterile single use syringes, there's light became
in there as well. So it does get more comfortable
as we go. And we also have comfort measures like
(24:25):
topical anesthetics, and you know, sometimes people have a hard
time and there's a product called pronocs we use, so
of course, as long as they're healthy enough to use those.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Do you ever have that are getting do you ever
have people coming in that you you have to tell them, hey, look,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That's what you want. But you're reaching the point that I.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Think it's it's becoming a distraction and does not actually
look good.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, so education is paramount setting expectations and definitely boundaries
because a lot of people you know that don't do
what I do, they don't understand if they get more
cheek fillar because that tends to be a favorite and
it definitely has a place, but cheek filler every year
(25:14):
is not a good idea. That's the way faces end
up getting distorted. And it's definitely like a customized approach.
Not everybody needs cheek filler, and not everybody needs cheek
filler in the same place.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But yeah, I don't they don't seem to realize what
they're doing. But by puffing the cheeks out to make this,
you know, mountain on their cheeks, I don't know if
they're going for the Loretta Limb look or what, but
what they end up doing is making their eyes look
like they've been pushed backward.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And so it gives a fairy together.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It looks like a cadaver look because the disparity between
the cheek and the eye that distance is increasing, and
so the eye is not actually moving, You're just adding
to the cheek. And I see people and I think,
don't you realize how creepy that looks?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So as we age, we do tend to lose volume
in our temples, most of us, and so augmenting collateral
or like outside, you know, closer to the hairline part
of the cheek can definitely like accentuate that and create
more of like a hill and valley, which some people
do age like that. They have very high cheek bones
(26:27):
in their temples. Hollow. But the way you see a
lot of people walking around and you know that they
have color, it's because it's not it's not good.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, can you hold on?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You like her voice, it's growing on them. She's smunky.
But then again that last fell I couldn't hear so that.
I mean, she's already kind of good lead in
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