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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Arry Show is.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air, and all the Michael Very presents are truly.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Carl, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I truly believe that Joe Biden is the biggest slave
trader in the history of the US. Why do you
say that, Well, because a lot of the people that come.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Over ostensibly the touchy feely thing, they're just here for
a better life. People have been horribly taken advantage of
by the cartels and people they come, any of them,
if they're not sold directly into like sex, slavery or
the kind of thing, are indentured servants that owe their

(01:17):
all their paycheck to the cartels or their employers.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
And very interesting point, Carl, Jeff the Builder, you're up?
Go what do you truly believe?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Supposed to be?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Who?

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Jeff the Builder or whatever your name is. If you
can hear me, go ahead, this is Jeff c Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
I truly believe that the current lectorate of our country
does not meet to prerequisites or a viable representative republic.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I don't know what that means, But Sam, you're up,
what do you truly believe?

Speaker 7 (01:57):
I true believe it, two or three times year. You
could replay that interview you did with former Senator Arlen Spector,
and we displays what an arrogant ass he was, and
it's a widespread attitude amongst career politicians.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
You know, it's funny. Sam Chad Knockinieshia, our executive producer,
loves that interview. And I think that interview goes back
to twenty twelve and there's only been I think two
times that I ever went into an interview with the
intention of getting the other person to hang up on me.
I mean, just being an absolute bastard. There may be

(02:38):
more than two, but two come to mind. One was
Arlen Spector and the other one was t Boone Pickens,
and I did manage to.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Get both both of them to hang up on me.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
Joe, let's see, Joe, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 9 (02:52):
I truly believe the pickles or any pickle product are
the worst things ever invented. Why they're disgusting? Think they touch?

Speaker 10 (03:00):
Taste pickles?

Speaker 9 (03:01):
Well?

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Three, hold on, I agree, they corrupt everything else around them,
But what about pickles themselves?

Speaker 9 (03:09):
Disgusting?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Pickles just a cucumber with some juice, Yeah, they're disgusting.
Are you aware, Joe? Are you aware? I'm going to
give you an opportunity in case you want to?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
We can't.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Are you aware of how much good comes to you
from eating pickle juice?

Speaker 9 (03:26):
And my wife tells me that all the time? No, sir, no,
thank you. No, I've been knowing to go through drive
through that. If I bite through the pickle or chicken
sandwich or a burger, throw it out the window. And
my wife will sit there and say, why do.

Speaker 11 (03:37):
You do that?

Speaker 9 (03:38):
Just take the pickles off? I said no, because everything
takes No, you're right.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I side with you on this. What's her name, Diane?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Diane needs to understand you are right about that putting
a pickle.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I am big, I am.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
I one hundred percent agree with you on how a
food like a pickle can corrupt other things. If you don't,
I don't like pickle on like my burgers or my
sandwiches or whatever, but I like a pickle by itself.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
The other thing that does that for me is olives
or anchovies if those things are on a sandwich or
It's why I ken't eight mufflottus.

Speaker 12 (04:18):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, can you just say pickles on sandwiches, because otherwise
I think you're drawing the iron of people who like
just a plain pickle, separate and aside from a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And I think you got a better round, Michael.

Speaker 9 (04:31):
I can't do that. I think pickle themselves in and
of themselves are gross too. Of it even makes me gag.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna respect your opinion. Hello, how
you doing? I miss the Shelley q Lichtor.

Speaker 13 (04:46):
Look here, I was in that Cadillac yesterday, moment of
trying to go down there at the Grocerest, I was
craving me a pickle. I had to have a pickle.
I could just I woke up tasting it. I dream
all night I was in Las Vegas and it was
all these women's that had the big turkey feathers hanging
out their head, and I was on stage with them
guns and we was up there doing a can can.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
And I woke up having a Charlie Horn's law.

Speaker 13 (05:11):
I must have kicked all the covers off my quilts
and everything was all over my bed room. Oh I
felt this a damn for I an't know what I
was supposed to do down that I bought it, but uh,
I don't know what had got into I think I
had that nasty pizza. They got that new one. I asked,
got all that stuff on turret law that'd give you
some nightmath. You better ask them when they called for

(05:32):
their piece of accent? Do this be the hallosiner turf varioty,
Because girl, I feel like I need to go back
to sleep. I ain't got a narrow waker red last night.
That can can that that that that's so ignorant?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Max? What do you truly believe?

Speaker 14 (05:48):
I truly believe that nine to eleven was an inside
job to go into the.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Middle East to get oil. Who do you think did it?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I think it was the US government.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I believe there was bombs.

Speaker 14 (06:01):
In the lobby, and I believe that the whole thing
was just a big scam.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But who do you think coordinate?

Speaker 12 (06:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You think the US government like the CIA?

Speaker 10 (06:09):
Yeah, that's the i CIA.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
What makes you think that?

Speaker 14 (06:13):
Because I found multiple videos of firefighters and people from
the lobby saying the bomb went off first and then
the plane hit the building.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Also, do you know how.

Speaker 14 (06:23):
They found the passport for the terrorists?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Tell me they.

Speaker 14 (06:28):
Said, the passport for the terrorists fell from the plane
perfectly fine and unscorched, and landed on the New York street,
where a police officer then found the passport and picked
it up and turned it into the CIA.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
And you're not buying that?

Speaker 10 (06:43):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
You're not buying that?

Speaker 9 (06:46):
I'm not buying that at all.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Now, Troy, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
I truly believe that this next national midterm election will
be decided by the independence.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Lever, go out and persuade an independent.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Devoke your wall. I think you're right. Alan. What do
you truly believe Skylike has been deported? Oh well, nobody's
supposed to know.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
David, what do you truly believe? I, Trudy believe Maxine
Waters has a lower IQ than are retarded Amiba and
nine to eleven. Inside job crazies are more irritating than
an eternal case of jockage?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Why why do they bother you?

Speaker 10 (07:26):
Because they just won't recognize reality. I worked with one
for years and he drove me crazy with that garbage.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And how did you end the relationship?

Speaker 10 (07:39):
Well, actually he ended up passing away.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Unfortunately he knew too much.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
See well, David, I was. You have to admit our
government makes it very easy to get wound up on
conspiracies because they do lie about so much. I mean,
COVID is one big criminal conspiracy lie on top of another.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I do believe that. I do believe.

Speaker 15 (08:09):
That, Michael.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
Do I have a story for you.

Speaker 16 (08:14):
My brother in law murdered too Native Americans to Michael
Verry show.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
Now you have my attention one thousand. It's an I
truly believe Jackwagon. What do you truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 10 (08:32):
I truly believe that if you play Mormon Fabernacle Choir
records backwards, you get cast role recipes.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Joe Ellen, what do you truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 12 (08:47):
I truly believe that right now our country and our
world is in the battle of good and evil. We
saw the good and Trump first time, we saw the
evil in Biden, and now the battle is on and
we just have to keep face. Even with the gas prices,
even with what's going on, I still have faith they

(09:07):
got it in control.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Oh sorry, Matt, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 10 (09:13):
I truly believe that mass is right.

Speaker 17 (09:15):
Nine to eleven was an inside job.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
All right, you know. Nine to eleven was an inside job.
Guys are a lot like the pot Guys. You open
that door, you will get a few. You're gonna get
a few, let's see. DH writs, I truly believe that
if you tell the server at your table one interesting
fact about yourself and ask him to tell you one

(09:39):
interesting fact in return, you will learn something. Your meal
will turn into an adventure, and your server will be smiling.
You know, my kids used to groan when we would
go to sit down at a restaurant or go somewhere
and somebody was wearing a name tag.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I knew their name.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
If they weren't, we're in a name tag, I'd ask
them their name, because you can often learn a lot
about the names. You could know that that's an Ethiopian name,
or that's an Eastern European name, or obviously it's a
Hispanic name, and oftentimes that may tell you it's a
French name. Often that may tell you something about where

(10:21):
they're from, or and.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Then you say, well where are you from?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
And my kids would grown because you know, we were
just there to make a purchase or whatever else, and
they would know that this was going to develop into
what they considered to be very awkward. It bothered Michael
much more than Crockett. But what's funny now is to
watch them in their own interactions do exactly the same
thing that Dad used to do that was so awkward,

(10:48):
and now they've incorporated it into their own regiment. Janis writes,
I truly believe that Cars for Kids has the worst
jingle ever. I don't know if that's true, but if so,
however you want to measure it, that makes it the
best jingle ever. It's one eight seven seven Cars for Kids,
and I know that, and that's the only jingle I know.

(11:11):
There is a strategy to being sometimes annoying. It makes
you memorable that Cars for Kids, as much as it
draws people crazy, is a very effective ad has shown
about their bottom line. But what just oh really, that's
what you're putting that all the bar with the okay?
Craig writes, If I truly believe that if it were

(11:33):
not for white women, we would not have silly recycling programs,
If it were not for liberal white women, we would
not have ninety percent of the problems we have in
this country. And I do believe that, I do believe
that liberal white women are the death of this country.
I think they're the death of education. I think they're
the death of professional sports. I think they're the death

(11:56):
of our political process. They're the death of our media.
They're the death of our conversations. They're the death of
our government. I truly believe that, I deeply truly believe
that they are absolutely awful and they are a menacing
but powerful force because they're fearless. You see them now,

(12:17):
they're fearless. You know, somebody is filming them being an
extreme Karen. They just they even go crazier and they're very,
very aggressive because they don't fear for their safety. They
don't fear that anyone's going to react to them. I
like to go back to about forty years ago. You
know the guys that walk around mouth and off to

(12:38):
everybody else. They just get punched in the face one
time and they'd stop that nonsense. Now you've the whole
Internet is just one big theatrical kabookie theater. Speaking of which,
Happy birthday, Sandy Peterson. Sandy Peterson's birthday today. She's the
one who loves the word kabooki theater, which when it

(12:59):
popped in my head, I thought, our sweet Sandy.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Of people filming each other while one.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Says, yeah, go ahead, hit me, hit me.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Nos no, no, you hit me, just one of you
hit Get.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
This over with.

Speaker 12 (13:13):
Well documented that words nowadays can actually break your bones.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Are you're not at the time the Michael Berry Show,
it's not why you're.

Speaker 17 (13:24):
Seven one.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Thousand? What do you truly believe?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
And now the Michael Berry Show presents are truly.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Rodney? What do you truly believe?

Speaker 15 (14:00):
I truly believe that one day and you and I
are going to get together and play a game of
pickle ball, and then after we're gone, it's going to
go have us a pist cigars.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Oh well, okay, I don't play singles. I'm too old
for singles. I only play doubles, So.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
We have to have two more people, Lance, What do
you truly believe?

Speaker 18 (14:19):
I truly believe that certain small fast food restaurants are
actually only able to remain open because they are money
laundering operations for the CIA and the cartels.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Justice CIA in the cartels.

Speaker 18 (14:35):
Well, those are the top two on the chain.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
My wife and I have this little thing where when
we're in a restaurant, we debate whether this is a
money laundering operation, because.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
There are businesses that are in.

Speaker 9 (14:59):
You.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
They'll have a big renovation, they have an expensive rent,
they have no customers, and you wonder how do they
do that?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And then you know, I gotta say, did you ever
watch Ozark?

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yes, a bit far fetched, but I have had friends
in law enforcement who have been involved in uncovering money
laundering and treasury guys that know a fair amount about
how it's typically conducted, and they said there were a
number of things that they nailed that nobody had done
in film before. The idea that you go in and

(15:39):
pay for a business, that there are certain businesses that
are perfect for money laundering because of the nature of
the business and how you can hide that money. But
when you think about that, it makes you wonder. So
you know, if ninety nine percent of businesses that are
quote unquote successful are money businesses, it means your chances

(16:02):
at running a legit business are very bad. If one
percent of businesses or money laundering, I mean, okay, there
is a chance.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't know what that number is.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Uh, but but I think you are right that there
are more businesses that are a front for money laundering
than people would expect, and I suspect and I don't
know this that it would blow people's mind.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
What makes you think that, Lance?

Speaker 18 (16:27):
There are a couple of specific ones near where I
live in Mississippi. Yeah, One in particular is a chain
that's called Bumpers. It's an absolute knockoff, ripoff of a sonic.
I mean they didn't even bother to change much about
it whenever they opened these except.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
What's called Bumpers.

Speaker 16 (16:48):
Bumpers, Yes, and there's never anybody there. The menu is
all just all over the place and the lights are on.
It's been open for decades, but nobody ever goes there
and the lights are always on.

Speaker 18 (17:04):
It never gets closed.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah. Are you a sonic guy?

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Oh yeah, I used to be a big sonic guy.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think it's the best.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Menu, followed closely by Dairy Queen in all of fast food.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But I get so excited my kids.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
We'd be coming out of downtown and we'd be headed
westbound on Washington and there's one right there on the
north side of the street, and we would go and
I'd be so excited, and we'd get there and we'd order,
and then I would realize, you know, that hole eating
in the car with the car full of people. I
don't enjoy it like I used to. Number one, but
I don't like to go in and deal with the Democrats.

(17:44):
But number two, the delivery on the items presented, it
just feels like it feels like all of fat. I
think this is just me getting old, So I recognize
that I'm the problem, but it feels like I don't.
I'm not getting the pleasure out of that food that
I used to. I don't know if they've gone down
or I've gone down, which is probably me.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I could be very likely, is Alan? What do you
truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 17 (18:11):
I truly believe that sitting outside the post office and
Lukenbat Texas is about as close as I'm going to
get to Heaven until the day I died.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Is that where you are right now?

Speaker 17 (18:23):
No, sir, I was there this weekend, and man it
was magical.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, there's so much history, so much history and how
that came about in the lore of the song particularly,
but how that movement built and then there was a
whole different generation with Corey and Pat and extended on
through a lot of those guys that kept it alive

(18:49):
for so much longer.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Paying tribute to it. Jay, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Oh, I truly believe that we are but cattle to
the government and the banks, and they want to get
as much milk out of us and give us as
little grass as possible. And I always feel that way
around tax time. That's it, I truly believe it.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
You know, the thing that frustrates me is that I'm
not picking on you. I'm saying generally, people will tell
me how we need to have a tax cut and
have a tax cut. We gotta cut this, and we
want to cut this, and we just had a you know,
we'll have a cut where you know, you don't pay
taxes because you're going back to classes, and then we'll
have a tax free weekend here and oh, isn't this

(19:37):
generous that they've done this. Okay, everybody wants a tax cut, right,
but it it's so simple. You collect money, you spend money,
and so everybody says, I want them to collect last money. Okay,
show me one thing you're willing to cut.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
That's it. It's not that complicated.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
But you don't hear politicians do that because guess what,
Offering a tax cut has one hundred percent support.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Nobody's against that.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Offering a spending cut has a constituency built in. Literally,
eradicate the entirety of Texas government and start over. Forget
the FEDS. Texas is bloated. That's what people don't realize.
Texas is blue state bloated. And you want to know
one of the biggest areas where we blow a lot

(20:28):
of money. And people don't want to hear this public education,
from facilities to transportation to retirement packages.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
But what happens every legislative session. We got to do
a teacher payer.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Every legislative session, there is a teacher pay race, and
every legislative session all I hear is these teachers.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
We're going to lose all the good teachers. They're just
not getting paid enough.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Do you know how many people are not getting paid
way less than them, who don't have a summer off,
who don't have Christmas breakof who don't have fac I'm
not mad at the teachers, but somebody needs to be
the damned adult in the room. Teachers aren't the only
ones quote underpaid. If you're so underpaid, go do something else?

(21:19):
What about everybody else that? What about the small business owner?
Got who gotta pay them more? We got to have
them raise their prices. No, they can't raise their prices.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Low can't last long, so hurry into cricket City.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I had a fun moment this last couple of weeks.
There is a uh.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Guy who does a video podcast on YouTube named Pope Pope,
and he does country music stuff and he's from a
small town in Alabama. In each episode, he starts with
you think you know about Mark Chestnut. Bet you didn't
know this, and then he tells you a little story

(22:03):
with some pictures in the back, and they're all deep
background stories. Well, I didn't realize a lot of these things.
He's spending time with the guys before he does you know,
you think he's just doing the thing about Oh, well,
this is how the Bellamy Brothers wrote the song. So
I had mentioned a couple of times that I really
liked this particular video, and he sent me an email said, Hey,

(22:27):
some friends here in Alabama. I heard you talking about me.
We do very well in Alabama. I think we have
seven or nine affiliates there. It's one of our best states.
And he said, I've been listening to your show.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I really like it.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Thank you for the kind words. So we've gotten to
be kind of friendly, and so he knew that Chestnut
and I were friends, and he was wanting to do
a sit down with Chestnut and asked if I would
put it together. And Mark is just kind of coming
back now. He's got his health back, mental and physical.
His voice sounds great, he looks great, and so I

(23:00):
was able to set them up, which was fun.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
And he just sent me.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
The first bit of the podcast, which I think will
hit in the next few days, and it's Chestnut telling
a story about the first time he met Whalen Jennings
and how intimidated he was. Whalen and Whalen and Willie
were together and Willie said, hey, Chestnut, how you doing,
and was real friendly to him, and he said Whalen

(23:24):
gave him the cold shoulder. And years later he got
to know Whalen and he told him that story, and
Whalen said, I had no idea it was probably I
was probably doped out of my head. I didn't I
know who you were, I didn't care, but I certainly
wasn't trying to be mean to you. And he says,
I was like, that's that's anyway. He's got these great
old stories and I'm happy if you get a chance
to see Mark Chestnut in concert do because he's back.

(23:46):
I'm very happy about that. He's one of my favorites.
So I'm proud of him because he's a because he's
a Golden Triangle boy Beaumont boy Mark.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
What do you truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 11 (23:55):
I truly believe in any true patriot, especially a military veteran,
deserves reparation from any administration or entity from about nineteen
sixty that lied to us, that stole everything from us,
including things like Sonic and Disney.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh my, Michael, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 10 (24:16):
I truly believe that those Lamaswamy is not the uh
I'm sor I'm trying to say, Oh breezy, he called me.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
It's not the savior of everyone in Ohio thinks he is.
I believe he's going to because he said it in
school choice and bring in more H one b's than
we have need for. I think we've got plenty of
out right here in Ohio in the US.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
And.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
He's better than the other person on the Democrat.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
But that's that's just my right, Gary. What do you
truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 18 (24:54):
I truly believe that every time Sean Hennedy or Ewett
or another talking head calls it's the Democratic Party, we
spot them ten points.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
It is a Democrat Party.

Speaker 10 (25:04):
Rush said, words have meaning and.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
It drives me crazy to hear it. Thank you for
you and Clay and Buck calling it what it is,
the Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Steve, what do you truly believe, Michael?

Speaker 10 (25:19):
I truly believe that not enough people know that Gringos
has a spicy sauce.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
You like the red or the green?

Speaker 9 (25:30):
I like the red.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
I think you can only get the green spicy here.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Jimmy Chenkins, I don't know about that.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I will say this, I'm a chips and Caeso guy,
and that may be the only restaurant, the only tex
mex restaurant. I don't do chips and kso because I
love their green sauce so much, and I don't know
what thickens it. I don't Sometimes I don't like It's
why I'm not a kind of collegist. Sometimes I don't
want to know what's in stuff. You know, you just

(25:59):
all right, let's just take it for you know, sometimes
behind the scenes is not always that good to know.
It kind of ruins the mystery of it all, but
kind of a whole is greater than some of his parts.
Sort of deal if you will. But I like their
green sauce a lot, and it is, for my money,

(26:20):
the best chip sauce in the Greater Houston area. As
just a sauce, I normally will order kso and I
usually have to tell the waiter not there, but wherever
I am I whether I need to or not, because
I'm mildly obsessive compulsive.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'll ask them five times to.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Make sure that it's super hot because I don't like
keso to come out and get cold within within a minute.
But there I don't have to do that. They're also
one of the only places that makes your own chips.
You know, a lot of people don't know this. Russell
grew up in his in his family's Text Mex restaurant,

(26:58):
which is very very popular on the east side Baytown
and in that area is.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
It El Toro El Toro, isn't it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:07):
And then he took over at about in his late
twenties early thirties, he took over the chip division chips
and tortillas, so that which is the same thing, and
so that was kind of his deal, and they still
buy their chips from the chip factory that he's I
think he's still involved in one way or another, because
when they get in new equipment, he gets very excited

(27:28):
and sends.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Me a picture of it. But I don't know very
many people that make their own chips. Eric, what do
you truly believe, sir?

Speaker 17 (27:36):
I truly believe Iran and the Democrats are working together
for the midterm?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, Ron, what do you truly believe? Michael?

Speaker 15 (27:46):
I truly believe that after we took Santa Ana, we
should have with Texas forces, US forces and other states
should have driven down to Mexico City taken it and
possibly driven all the way down to Panama and taking it.
He wouldn't have been in the situation where we are today.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
And what is that.

Speaker 17 (28:03):
With illegal border.

Speaker 15 (28:06):
Interactions? We would probably have seventy five states instead of fifty,
or we would have treated like Puerto Rico. But we
would have controlled it all the way down to Panama.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
But wouldn't we have the same problem headed northward from Panama?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, you would have to.

Speaker 15 (28:26):
That would be probably different down there. Instead of with
the Panama straight we would have set up like border
interactions down there kind of like a offshore.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, but you talk about a toll booth man, you
could you look at the map of what that that lock,
what goes through that lock?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
You think the people think the straight of horror moves
is important.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
The Panama Canal, there's a lot of little documentaries and
things out there about the Panama Canal. That is one
of the most amazing feats of human ingenuity.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
To ever be pulled off.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I'm just I'm I'm I'm amazed. I'm shocked that that
that could be done where there's so many people died
building that thing, so many a lot of more Chinese
laborers that.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Were brought in uh to do that. But that that

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Thing and and how that changed the world, especially America,
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