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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Verie Show is on the air. So that story about
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the flight instructor jumping out of the plane, Hey girl,
you got this, you know what to do? Whoop. I'm
out that dB Cooper level stuff. I don't know why
dB Cooper interests us so much, or it interests me
a lot. There's multiple movies made about it. It's one
of the those things that not just all the true
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crime all of them. It's they just keep recycling this
content because it's so good. And you got that one
picture of him with the glasses. So Chad Nakanishi reminded
us of a story from twenty thirteen. A sixty one
year old California man on a thirty minute helicopter site
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seeing tour of the southern California coast opened the chopper
door near Newport Beach and jumped out, plunging five hundred feet.
Authorities have been investigating the jump as a suicide. Quote
a Huntingdon Beach Huntington Beach Police Department helicopter initiated a
search for the passenger, which helped direct Newport Beach lifeguards
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and Orange County Sheriff's dep Department Harbor Patrol personnel to
his location in the ocean, The spokesman said. Authorities said
that lifeguards brought the man, Gregory mcm of West Covina
to shore and initiated life saving measures. He was in
critical condition when they found him, but he's succumbed to
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the injuries sustained as a result of his fall. Can
you imagine how awful that would have been if he'd
lived and had to answer for that for the rest
of his life. My goodness, that's just terrible. Oh oh.
His issue was a rare medical condition which caused him
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severe reflux, kept him from sleeping every night. He was
trying to get some kind of medical financial aid to
cover for a surgery that would take care of the problem,
but he couldn't. Must have been a result of years
of physical impediment and pain and severe lack of sleep
that might have contributed to this extreme situation. He was
a smart man, a good man, a very honest man
who cared for people and loved animals. He will be cremated.
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Oh man, Wow, that's a horrible way to suffer. I mean,
there's worst ways I would imagine, but that's you ever
had acid reflux. Jim, that's a terrible thing. It's terrible.
I had to stop eating late at night. I had
to stop eating red sauce. I'm not going to tell
you all about my my acid reflux because that's not
a pleasant thing to hear about. The explosive diarrhea story earlier,
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it wasn't mine, somebody else's. That was a good story.
But acid reflux at t has a nasty taste right there. Anyway,
Bill Burr had a bit about this, and we think
Chad has cut out all the cusswords because Bill Burr
loves to cuss. But he actually told a story about
this exact incident.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I saw this story down in Orange County right then,
in Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This guy gave helicopter.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Touris for thirty years, thirty years without incident, hands the
business off to his son, the American drink.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I built it up for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Here you go, son, make the family and the family
game proud, all right down, I love you right This
poor kid, five days in he's supposed to give a
tour to a couple.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Only the dude shows up. The kid thought it was weird.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
He's like, I need the money, I gotta give him
a tour, right, So he takes this guy up. Ten
minutes into the tour.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The dude jumped out.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, five days in, five days in from the balloons
and the cake without his son. Here's the family tree
going the traditional line.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Five days later.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
This kid, he probably barely had the speech down, just
sitting there flying the helicopter. All right, if you look
out the left side of the aircraft, that's Orange County.
He's over twenty seven miles of beaches. Put your seatfelt
back on. Twenty seven miles of beaches was established as
a county in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Sir, Please don't open the door.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Stir.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No dump? What the oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, what the what?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Air traffic control?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know who's on this frequency, but you really
need five dation.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So I wring further into the story.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Turns out the guy who jumped out he was sixty
one years old, terminally ill. He was in pain every day.
They couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, and
he had had enough at that point. That guy immediately
became a hero in my world.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right, you know what I love about him.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not only did he make the decision, he didn't go
out like some right a handful of pills, watching a
romantic comedy wrapped in an Afghan and Nani mae that
this guy went out like a man. Take me up
in a chopper. I'm looking at the land I love,
and then I'm jumping out like a superhero.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This guy, this guy should have been wearing a cake.
I can't imagine how elated he must have been on
that helicopter ride up after finally, you know, just taking
back control of his life like a huge disease, I decide,
you know, ripping tubes out, gets a burger, shotguns of beer.
Take me up in the chop. He probably had his
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foot on the dashboard. You know, he's not even listening
to this guy giving the tour right over over twenty
seven miles of beach.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Just put your seatbelt.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Back on, establishes a County in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So put no fine up out, don't.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But here's a thing I left out, one small thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There is one small thing the guy lifted. Yeah dah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They were out over the ocean, five hundred feet up.
You think that would be enough. So I'm thinking he
must have gone in like Greg Lugaine. It's like no slashes,
but witnesses said it looked like a dummy.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Was falling out of the air, so.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That sounds like a hell of an impact. I think
he accidentally did the most epic five hundred foot belly
flop in the history of jumping out of a helicopter,
you know, But that didn't change what he was trying
to do where his heart was.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I still love this guy. I just feel pack for him.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just on the way down, He's gotta be thinking three
more seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
To pay two more circonds? Wow, who.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
This just words, it might words.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It has a happy ending though he later died at
the hospital. That's like so handam my class him. I
hope I have the ball some day.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know. We were talking about whether or not to
use the Bill Burr clip because it is funny and
Chad now used to really like Bill Burr. But something
went real wrong with him. Supposedly, the story is that
he married a black woman who's an extreme leftist liberal
America hater. I don't know what it is, but I
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used to think he was just witty and clever. He
has lost his way. So I got a bunch of
people piddling with me over Jose Altuve. I don't understand
people the stuff they choose to. It's why I couldn't
do sports radio. People get crazy around the discussion of sports.
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They just they get otherwise, rational people get irrational. I
had one guy tell me he only eyes two hern
and fifty square home runs. Okay, do you have any
idea where that ranks him? I let me go check,
but I know he's on the leader board, and it
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turns out he's got to sixty five. Another guy said,
we just played a long time. Okay, let's look at
those numbers. Sixteen seasons. His productivity has dropped off, So
you don't you know you're gonna other than Albert Poohle's.
Most players don't keep their productivity up, you know, far
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into the years they start to drop off. So you
pretty much got a baseline of you know, seven to
ten years. But let's see here, there's players around him
that have more years than him. Brooks Robinson, who was
three home runs more than him, has played seven more
years than him, and Brooks Robinson's Hall of Famer. That's who.
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Eddie Martinez's third basic career and Archbishop Rummel was based
on That's what he says. Anyway, I don't If you
know him, you can ask him. But he says that
he was like the reincarnation of Brooks Robinson at third
at Archbishop Rumwell, I have no idea if that's true.
Somebody else said you'd even mention Mickey Mantle. It wasn't
an exhausted like are you literally sitting there listening to
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everything I say? And if I say, oh, this guy's
a great home running or I mean you think about
you know, of course he's not Hank Aaron or Mike
Schmidt or Mark McGuire or Sammy Sosien. Oh you didn't
mention Mickey Mantle, Like what how does that work? Jim?
Somebody is sitting at home listening going, oh, he didn't
mention you, and he's one player. Mickey Mannle was number
eighteen on the list. He not even in the top fifteen.
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You know who is. Surprisingly, there's some names on here
that surprise me. Since you asked, I'll give you the
where they rank and then how many years they played.
Barry Bonds twenty two, Hank Aaron twenty three, Babe Ruth
twenty two, Albert Poohol's twenty two, A Rod twenty two,
Willie Mays twenty three, Ken Griffy Junior twenty two, Jim
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Tomey twenty two, Sammy Sosa eighteen. Boy he looks freakish,
now did he die? Frank Robinson twenty one, Mark McGuire sixteen,
Harmon Killerbrew you've forgot the old Minnesota twin Harmon Killerbrew
twenty two, Raphael Palmero twenty, Reggie Jackson twenty one, Manny
Ramirez nineteen, Mike Schmidt eighteen, David Ortiz twenty, A Ross
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Big Poppy Played twenty years, Mickey Mantle eighteen, Jimmy Fox twenty,
Willie McCovey twenty two, Frank Thomas nineteen, Ted Williams nineteen.
Of course he got interrupted by the war, Ernie Banks nineteen,
Eddie Matthews seventeen. There's nobody on this list who has
fewer than eighteen years. If you're in the top and
the drop off is dramatic, you've only got four guys
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that hit seven hundred home runs, Bonds, Aaron, Ruth and Pooholz.
But that series of emails, it's why I shouldn't read
my emails. That's on me. That's just stupid that I
do it, But for some weird reason I enjoy it anyway.
So back to the point I was making taller Ico
now is losing in the polls. He knows it. He's
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in trouble. So what does he do to gain votes? Well,
the area where he's struggling them, he's going to lose
most of the Republican voters right after a primary, like
we just had a bruising primary. There are a lot
of country club bow tie wearing soft the in squishy
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middle Republicans, the Bush Republicans who were very angry at Paxton,
and they wanted corning. You know what I did, what
a dorky, nerdy thing I did. Last week. I went
back and watched a cross examination by Tony Busby and
Dan Cogdell of the people who had presented the cases,
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who were the star witnesses in the House Republican races
in the House Republican case the impeachment of Paxton. And
there's an interesting moment. It was a Busby moment, and
he nailed it. So it's September thirtieth and there's a
guy named Jeff Matteir and Mattiir was the one it
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appears that is being used by TLR to oust Paxton.
Now you've got to remember they had spent a lot
of money trying to defeat Paxton as a state senator,
and then as Attorney General, Paxton had just defeated George P. Bush,
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So he was already George P. Bush was already that's
their guy, right. There is a Bush holdover group that
wants to put the jebs in in, George Bush in
and they have this just this fetish for the bushes.
They worship the bushes. The bushes are great. This is
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our kind of Republican. So on September thirtieth, they go
to the FBI and say, oh, Paxton, he accepted work.
Turns out it wasn't true. But they go to the
FBI and say't he didn't pay for this work that
was done by this guy? Well they never asked him.
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Oh sorry. The part that they go to the FBI
about is that there was an independent attorney who was
hired to do an investigation of a nonprofit that everybody
in the office was for. And so they had hired
this guy, Chemick, young guy, and he had issued a
subpoena on a bank. He was doing what he was
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supposed to do. He had been given a second indictment
and the ability to issue more subpoenas, but nobody else
in the office knew it. So they go to the
FBI and say, this guy's acting outside the scope of
his work. This is criminal. They never asked Ken Paxton.
That all happens on September thirty. They go to the
FBI on October first. Guess what happens in the midst
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of all this. George P. Bush didn't have his law
license active for ten years, and he activated his law license.
And on October second, Jeff Mattier, the highest ranking guy
in the office other than Ken Paxton, resigns in a
whole cabal of him. This is the palace coup. They're
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gonna get Paxton impeached and George P. Bush installed as
the attorney general. They went from the FBI to the
Governor's office. The fix was in. So this whole thing
that has hung over Paxton. You don't have to like him,
you're not like his marriage, like any of that. But
the whole thing was drummed up by this Republican corning
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Bush Coali Sherry, and those are the people bitching now
that they don't want Paxton. I love this song. I
requested that Jim play it, but I don't think I
was conscious. I mean, I'm sure my brain would have
heard it and processed it how much it sounds like
a steely Dan song, and it does has a very
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steely Dan vibe. Supposedly the song this woman that walks
into the room and the man is just smitten by her.
Supposedly it was the drummer of Atlanta Rhythm Section, Robert Nicks,
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who was smitten with one of the background singers or
backup singers for Leonard Skinner, a woman named Leslie Hawkins.
She was one of what they call the honk Ets.
But I have read that that's the case, and I've
read that that is rumored to be the case and
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is not the case. So I don't know. So we're
going to have the most watched you probably know by now.
Plattner dropped out of the race in Maine. The candidate
who was chosen by three duebs, a Chinese woman and
two goobers, and they literally sifted through people to choose. Oh,
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this is the guy who runs an oyster farm. He'll
appeal to white males. That's where the Democrat Party is
struggling with. We're not going to change our policies and
the thing we talk most about, which is transitioning children
from boys to girls. We're instead just going to go
find somebody who looks like and talks like the voter
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we can't seem to win, and maybe maybe the voters
will gravitate to him. Because we don't want to change
our policies, because our overlords want those policies. Those policies
are designed to destroy the country. We can't change the policy,
but we can't enact the policies unless we can get
people in office. So enter James Talerico. James Tallerco's district
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is white liberals in the Austin area. I am told
I don't know this. I am told my friends in
Austin who run these numbers, crunch these numbers all the time,
that he represents the most liberal district in the state.
It would make sense. Now, You've got to be careful
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how you use the word liberal, because many people will
refer to a black district as being liberal. That is
not liberal, that is not what is traditionally white liberalism.
It's a very different set of politics. Now, what they
do is they realize you can't have the black agenda
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or the white liberal agenda independently. You've got to marry those.
So you have a very strange bedfellows you end up
with with, you know, a Maxine Waters and a Joe Biden,
who forgetting his president presidential years. Joe Biden was a
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relatively conservative Democrat for much of his career. He was
very different than the guy you saw as president and
the thing at that point, and you see this with
a lot of white men in the Democrat Party, especially later.
You also see this with corporate CEOs. They know they're
at the tail end of their career, they know the
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demographics have changed, they know that they're very out of step.
So they basically just say, what do I need to do?
Do you do I need to wear a day shiki? Nah, Joe,
that might be too much. Okay, so you're taller, Rico.
You know, they had him eat at a soul food
restaurant this past weekend and he had a black state
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rep with him. Okay, so there he is. He's he's
sampling the food of the natives and what did the
Chronicle choose to do profile the story and manage to
check two boxes that were important to them. Number one,
look at James Talerico. He's eating black people food as
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if black people just you know, they don't eat any
other they just go to soul food restaurants. It's just
it's it's Chitling's and hogs Mall every day. That's that's it, man,
that's it. They're they're they're still eating the celebrated food
of the slave years. And here's James Tallerico eating that
food and really enjoying it. Look at that. See, you
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should vote for him. He likes your food. And this
is distinctly exclusively your food. So James Tallerco could have
eaten at the kind of place that he would normally
eat at, which is a granola restaurant, a vegan granola
restaurant in Austin, but he has come to Houston and
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he is eating the black people foods with a black
elected official. So look what if y'all don't understand, these
are the signals you're being sent that this is your
dog whistle. He's your candidate, Black people, vote for him.
He ate your food one time and sat at your restaurant.
He didn't even lock his doors. Boys driver, but they
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didn't even lock their doors. They weren't worried at all,
no worries at all. They just acted like it was
as normal as and he was so comfortably, so comfortable
with you look at him. So, no, we didn't get
Jasmine Crockett. We're getting the most lily white guy you
could ever imagine, zero testosterone transitioning kids. Which, by the way,
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this is one of the big distinctions. This is why
they are strange. Bedfellows leave aside what black elected officials do,
because they do what they have to do for the
Democrat Party and the big donors. Black voters, who will
often end up voting Democrat, do not abide the social
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weird stuff of the Democrat Party. Now, some of their
pastors have begun gravitating the message in order to get
the contract for to get out the vote campaign, in
order to get the appointments to the Metro board or
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the Sports Authority Board or the various plumb assignments. So
you've seen a number of pastors now who they have
the day job of the church, but they also have
a side hustle. We're gonna build some affordable homes. We're
gonna run a residential treatment facility. We're gonna have a
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private school, We're gonna we're gonna do We're gonna do
these things that get us paid by the City of
Houston or Harris County. It's rarely the state. It's usually
we're gonna sit on the the important sports board. This
is don't underestimate that there's a lot of money that flows.
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And if you're on that board, you get invited to
the right places and you get to take the right trips.
And there's even been allegations there might be some hands,
some some cash that changes hands over the years. It's
what sent ben Rees prison. But that's what's happening with
the Taller ECO campaign. They are panicked that they're not
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getting black support. Now you've got black elected officials coming
out and saying you need to spend some money over here.
One of the things I enjoy, and I don't know
how many people who do what I do at the
level that I do it engage as much with listeners
as I do, and I talk about it a lot,
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first of all, because I'm overly proud of myself. Secondly,
because it's unique in the industry to the extent that
we do it. And third, because by constantly setting guardrails,
I can manage to have a massive number of people
communicate with me on my terms with minimal friction for
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me to do it, and it makes the show better.
I enjoy it. I think people appreciate the opportunity to
not just be talked at, but be talked with. Every
single day there will be someone who will say, Hey,
you were talking about why fancy restaurants don't seem to
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serve cake, And I'm a baker and I bring cakes
to these restaurants and here's why, you know, here's a
reason why they don't. How they dry out and whether
they sell, and how much spoilage there is and how
fast they go dry and da da da da. So
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that I find to be very interesting, because I suppose
I could go look that up in what someone wrote
would be what I would learn. But to hear from
someone who's a listener who hopefully enjoys the show, or
they wouldn't be listening, and for them to share what
they're knowledgeable about, and me to be able to ask questions, well,
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is there a way to make a cake that lasts longer.
What if you don't use milk, you use water. What
if you don't use eggs you do this? What kind
of flour would if you were trying to stretch the
life of a cake in the glass case, sing at
the cafe off I ten in Columbus or wherever, what
would be the things you would do that you would
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hopefully affect the flavor of the least and stretch it
the longest. Okay, So every day there are conversations I'm
having when I'm off air. But if someone says I'm
not voting for Pakistan, I'm voting for Tall Rico and
I'm a Republican. If they just say that, I just
assume it's a plant and don't read it. But if
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they say, I voted for this person, this person, this person,
This is what I do for a living. These are
the things that matter most to me, and this is
why I'm not voting for Pakistan. I'm voting. Okay, Now
I can engage. I say all that to say this.
So I get an email from a listener in Lovebook
and he says, I think you're giving the bushes too
much credit. And that's it. That's the whole thing. All right,
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So I have no basis upon which to consider what
he's saying. Just hey, oh here, my opinion is I
disagree with you? Okay? Why to me? The conversation is fun,
it's engaging, it's entertaining, it's enlightening. But if all you
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ever stated is a conclusion, I have no use for
you and you wasted your time. We're not taking a
poll how many people think the bushes have too much influence?
And how many people think I'm wrong their partisans don't
have too much influence. Okay, well it was fifty eight
to forty two. That's not what's happening. A person is
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expressing an opinion that I'm giving the credibility to without
knowing you that I might learn something from your opinion.
I might be wrong about something. I might not have
considered something that you can point out. I might not
be aware of a fact that you know that you've lived,
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that you've learned, But none of that's being shared. The
only thing a person is saying in that situation is
I disagree with you. Don't waste my time over yours
because I don't think about it another second. I just
move on. But if you take a moment I don't
want to. I want you to write a book. But
if you take a moment and say I think that
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your position on the influence that the Bush Partisans still
have on the Republican Party is wrong, because and then
you state your opinion, that helps me develop better opinions,
because otherwise I'm just one guy offering opinions, which is
what I've said all alone. I am, and I don't
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expect anybody to agree. It's always interesting to me that
people will come up to being public saying I love
your show. Now I don't agree with everything. Okay, what
do you not agree with it? Well, just you got
some opinions I don't agree with Okay, Well, would did
it be weird? Honestly, it wouldn't be weird for me.
It'd be weird about you if we agreed with everything.
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I don't even agree with everything I say. I might
bring up some food, did I don't even actually care.
I did it the other day I posted on Facebook
I love the Facebook conversation, and I said, do you
like Keish? I don't like Gish. I don't really even
know if I like Kesh. It doesn't it looks funny
to me? I said, do you like keish, and who
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makes a good keish? So I start getting all these emails,
and people will then assume things that are not submitted
into evidence. I can't believe you like kesh. Keish's for girls,
Keisha's for sissy's. I never figured you for liking k
I didn't say I like Kesh. I just said, do
you like keish? I'm genuinely curious to hear people talk
about keish. I want to learn more about keish. So
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Russell Lebara sends me a message and he says, I
know you don't like keish. You said to me you
don't like keish. I don't think you've had a really
good keish. Humhm, he said. I can't remember who he
said makes a good Kish, but he said, if it's
done right. You love eggs. I do love eggs. I
love eggs in any form. You love eggs, and you
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love the stuff that goes into omelets, and you like
the consistency of kish. You just don't think of breakfast
in that form. And he told me somebody that does
a good keys. You can't remember who it was and
why I would like it. Okay, now I'm willing to
consider that the point is, I really enjoy this conversation,
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but it only works when you understand how it works
and why it works, so that before you take the
time to send me a message, you consider I'm scanning
through a lot of emails. If you say something out
of context, I agree, Please don't do that. I just
block you because you can't seem to understand. I'm sitting
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in the middle of the Panopticon and everything's coming at
me from every direction, and I'm trying to read things.
I'm trying to construct opinions. I'm trying to remember what
audio we were hoping to play. I'm trying to remember
when we're going to break. So you got to kind
of spoon and fiend be your opinion if you want
your opinion to influence what I'm If I've asked for
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who makes a good keish and you want me to
say what you said on the air and give that
business some credit, then you got to help me do that. Jim,
you could slug that segment Michael trying to set guardrails
because that's really not great content for the show. But
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occasionally I have to do that to reset how this
whole process works, because when it works, our model, you, me,
the show, us here together, You emailing me, me, emailing
you back, you, following on Facebook. It's a pretty cool deal,
and for some of you it's a big part of
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your life. It doesn't replace your marriage or your kids,
but you're following what we're doing. You're engaging with what
we're talking about. For me, other than my wife and kids,
it is my whole life, and when it works, it's
pretty magical.
It's that time time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Verie Show is on the air. So that story about
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the flight instructor jumping out of the plane, Hey girl,
you got this, you know what to do? Whoop. I'm
out that dB Cooper level stuff. I don't know why
dB Cooper interests us so much, or it interests me
a lot. There's multiple movies made about it. It's one
of the those things that not just all the true
(01:02):
crime all of them. It's they just keep recycling this
content because it's so good. And you got that one
picture of him with the glasses. So Chad Nakanishi reminded
us of a story from twenty thirteen. A sixty one
year old California man on a thirty minute helicopter site
(01:24):
seeing tour of the southern California coast opened the chopper
door near Newport Beach and jumped out, plunging five hundred feet.
Authorities have been investigating the jump as a suicide. Quote
a Huntingdon Beach Huntington Beach Police Department helicopter initiated a
search for the passenger, which helped direct Newport Beach lifeguards
(01:48):
and Orange County Sheriff's dep Department Harbor Patrol personnel to
his location in the ocean, The spokesman said. Authorities said
that lifeguards brought the man, Gregory mcm of West Covina
to shore and initiated life saving measures. He was in
critical condition when they found him, but he's succumbed to
(02:11):
the injuries sustained as a result of his fall. Can
you imagine how awful that would have been if he'd
lived and had to answer for that for the rest
of his life. My goodness, that's just terrible. Oh oh.
His issue was a rare medical condition which caused him
(02:32):
severe reflux, kept him from sleeping every night. He was
trying to get some kind of medical financial aid to
cover for a surgery that would take care of the problem,
but he couldn't. Must have been a result of years
of physical impediment and pain and severe lack of sleep
that might have contributed to this extreme situation. He was
a smart man, a good man, a very honest man
who cared for people and loved animals. He will be cremated.
(02:57):
Oh man, Wow, that's a horrible way to suffer. I mean,
there's worst ways I would imagine, but that's you ever
had acid reflux. Jim, that's a terrible thing. It's terrible.
I had to stop eating late at night. I had
to stop eating red sauce. I'm not going to tell
you all about my my acid reflux because that's not
a pleasant thing to hear about. The explosive diarrhea story earlier,
(03:19):
it wasn't mine, somebody else's. That was a good story.
But acid reflux at t has a nasty taste right there. Anyway,
Bill Burr had a bit about this, and we think
Chad has cut out all the cusswords because Bill Burr
loves to cuss. But he actually told a story about
this exact incident.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I saw this story down in Orange County right then,
in Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This guy gave helicopter.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Touris for thirty years, thirty years without incident, hands the
business off to his son, the American drink.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I built it up for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Here you go, son, make the family and the family
game proud, all right down, I love you right This
poor kid, five days in he's supposed to give a
tour to a couple.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Only the dude shows up. The kid thought it was weird.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
He's like, I need the money, I gotta give him
a tour, right, So he takes this guy up. Ten
minutes into the tour.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The dude jumped out.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, five days in, five days in from the balloons
and the cake without his son. Here's the family tree
going the traditional line.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Five days later.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
This kid, he probably barely had the speech down, just
sitting there flying the helicopter. All right, if you look
out the left side of the aircraft, that's Orange County.
He's over twenty seven miles of beaches. Put your seatfelt
back on. Twenty seven miles of beaches was established as
a county in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Sir, Please don't open the door.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Stir.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No dump? What the oh my god, oh my god,
oh my god, what the what?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Air traffic control?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know who's on this frequency, but you really
need five dation.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So I wring further into the story.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Turns out the guy who jumped out he was sixty
one years old, terminally ill. He was in pain every day.
They couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, and
he had had enough at that point. That guy immediately
became a hero in my world.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right, you know what I love about him.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Not only did he make the decision, he didn't go
out like some right a handful of pills, watching a
romantic comedy wrapped in an Afghan and Nani mae that
this guy went out like a man. Take me up
in a chopper. I'm looking at the land I love,
and then I'm jumping out like a superhero.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
This guy, this guy should have been wearing a cake.
I can't imagine how elated he must have been on
that helicopter ride up after finally, you know, just taking
back control of his life like a huge disease, I decide,
you know, ripping tubes out, gets a burger, shotguns of beer.
Take me up in the chop. He probably had his
(06:15):
foot on the dashboard. You know, he's not even listening
to this guy giving the tour right over over twenty
seven miles of beach.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Just put your seatbelt.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Back on, establishes a County in nineteen oh three.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So put no fine up out, don't.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But here's a thing I left out, one small thing.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There is one small thing the guy lifted. Yeah dah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They were out over the ocean, five hundred feet up.
You think that would be enough. So I'm thinking he
must have gone in like Greg Lugaine. It's like no slashes,
but witnesses said it looked like a dummy.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Was falling out of the air, so.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That sounds like a hell of an impact. I think
he accidentally did the most epic five hundred foot belly
flop in the history of jumping out of a helicopter,
you know, But that didn't change what he was trying
to do where his heart was.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I still love this guy. I just feel pack for him.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just on the way down, He's gotta be thinking three
more seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
To pay two more circonds? Wow, who.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
This just words, it might words.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It has a happy ending though he later died at
the hospital. That's like so handam my class him. I
hope I have the ball some day.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know. We were talking about whether or not to
use the Bill Burr clip because it is funny and
Chad now used to really like Bill Burr. But something
went real wrong with him. Supposedly, the story is that
he married a black woman who's an extreme leftist liberal
America hater. I don't know what it is, but I
(08:24):
used to think he was just witty and clever. He
has lost his way. So I got a bunch of
people piddling with me over Jose Altuve. I don't understand
people the stuff they choose to. It's why I couldn't
do sports radio. People get crazy around the discussion of sports.
(08:50):
They just they get otherwise, rational people get irrational. I
had one guy tell me he only eyes two hern
and fifty square home runs. Okay, do you have any
idea where that ranks him? I let me go check,
but I know he's on the leader board, and it
(09:14):
turns out he's got to sixty five. Another guy said,
we just played a long time. Okay, let's look at
those numbers. Sixteen seasons. His productivity has dropped off, So
you don't you know you're gonna other than Albert Poohle's.
Most players don't keep their productivity up, you know, far
(09:34):
into the years they start to drop off. So you
pretty much got a baseline of you know, seven to
ten years. But let's see here, there's players around him
that have more years than him. Brooks Robinson, who was
three home runs more than him, has played seven more
years than him, and Brooks Robinson's Hall of Famer. That's who.
(09:57):
Eddie Martinez's third basic career and Archbishop Rummel was based
on That's what he says. Anyway, I don't If you
know him, you can ask him. But he says that
he was like the reincarnation of Brooks Robinson at third
at Archbishop Rumwell, I have no idea if that's true.
Somebody else said you'd even mention Mickey Mantle. It wasn't
an exhausted like are you literally sitting there listening to
(10:19):
everything I say? And if I say, oh, this guy's
a great home running or I mean you think about
you know, of course he's not Hank Aaron or Mike
Schmidt or Mark McGuire or Sammy Sosien. Oh you didn't
mention Mickey Mantle, Like what how does that work? Jim?
Somebody is sitting at home listening going, oh, he didn't
mention you, and he's one player. Mickey Mannle was number
eighteen on the list. He not even in the top fifteen.
(10:43):
You know who is. Surprisingly, there's some names on here
that surprise me. Since you asked, I'll give you the
where they rank and then how many years they played.
Barry Bonds twenty two, Hank Aaron twenty three, Babe Ruth
twenty two, Albert Poohol's twenty two, A Rod twenty two,
Willie Mays twenty three, Ken Griffy Junior twenty two, Jim
(11:06):
Tomey twenty two, Sammy Sosa eighteen. Boy he looks freakish,
now did he die? Frank Robinson twenty one, Mark McGuire sixteen,
Harmon Killerbrew you've forgot the old Minnesota twin Harmon Killerbrew
twenty two, Raphael Palmero twenty, Reggie Jackson twenty one, Manny
Ramirez nineteen, Mike Schmidt eighteen, David Ortiz twenty, A Ross
(11:32):
Big Poppy Played twenty years, Mickey Mantle eighteen, Jimmy Fox twenty,
Willie McCovey twenty two, Frank Thomas nineteen, Ted Williams nineteen.
Of course he got interrupted by the war, Ernie Banks nineteen,
Eddie Matthews seventeen. There's nobody on this list who has
fewer than eighteen years. If you're in the top and
the drop off is dramatic, you've only got four guys
(11:55):
that hit seven hundred home runs, Bonds, Aaron, Ruth and Pooholz.
But that series of emails, it's why I shouldn't read
my emails. That's on me. That's just stupid that I
do it, But for some weird reason I enjoy it anyway.
So back to the point I was making taller Ico
now is losing in the polls. He knows it. He's
(12:18):
in trouble. So what does he do to gain votes? Well,
the area where he's struggling them, he's going to lose
most of the Republican voters right after a primary, like
we just had a bruising primary. There are a lot
of country club bow tie wearing soft the in squishy
(12:41):
middle Republicans, the Bush Republicans who were very angry at Paxton,
and they wanted corning. You know what I did, what
a dorky, nerdy thing I did. Last week. I went
back and watched a cross examination by Tony Busby and
Dan Cogdell of the people who had presented the cases,
(13:03):
who were the star witnesses in the House Republican races
in the House Republican case the impeachment of Paxton. And
there's an interesting moment. It was a Busby moment, and
he nailed it. So it's September thirtieth and there's a
guy named Jeff Matteir and Mattiir was the one it
(13:25):
appears that is being used by TLR to oust Paxton.
Now you've got to remember they had spent a lot
of money trying to defeat Paxton as a state senator,
and then as Attorney General, Paxton had just defeated George P. Bush,
(13:47):
So he was already George P. Bush was already that's
their guy, right. There is a Bush holdover group that
wants to put the jebs in in, George Bush in
and they have this just this fetish for the bushes.
They worship the bushes. The bushes are great. This is
(14:07):
our kind of Republican. So on September thirtieth, they go
to the FBI and say, oh, Paxton, he accepted work.
Turns out it wasn't true. But they go to the
FBI and say't he didn't pay for this work that
was done by this guy? Well they never asked him.
(14:28):
Oh sorry. The part that they go to the FBI
about is that there was an independent attorney who was
hired to do an investigation of a nonprofit that everybody
in the office was for. And so they had hired
this guy, Chemick, young guy, and he had issued a
subpoena on a bank. He was doing what he was
(14:49):
supposed to do. He had been given a second indictment
and the ability to issue more subpoenas, but nobody else
in the office knew it. So they go to the
FBI and say, this guy's acting outside the scope of
his work. This is criminal. They never asked Ken Paxton.
That all happens on September thirty. They go to the
FBI on October first. Guess what happens in the midst
(15:17):
of all this. George P. Bush didn't have his law
license active for ten years, and he activated his law license.
And on October second, Jeff Mattier, the highest ranking guy
in the office other than Ken Paxton, resigns in a
whole cabal of him. This is the palace coup. They're
(15:38):
gonna get Paxton impeached and George P. Bush installed as
the attorney general. They went from the FBI to the
Governor's office. The fix was in. So this whole thing
that has hung over Paxton. You don't have to like him,
you're not like his marriage, like any of that. But
the whole thing was drummed up by this Republican corning
(16:00):
Bush Coali Sherry, and those are the people bitching now
that they don't want Paxton. I love this song. I
requested that Jim play it, but I don't think I
was conscious. I mean, I'm sure my brain would have
heard it and processed it how much it sounds like
a steely Dan song, and it does has a very
(16:25):
steely Dan vibe. Supposedly the song this woman that walks
into the room and the man is just smitten by her.
Supposedly it was the drummer of Atlanta Rhythm Section, Robert Nicks,
(16:46):
who was smitten with one of the background singers or
backup singers for Leonard Skinner, a woman named Leslie Hawkins.
She was one of what they call the honk Ets.
But I have read that that's the case, and I've
read that that is rumored to be the case and
(17:06):
is not the case. So I don't know. So we're
going to have the most watched you probably know by now.
Plattner dropped out of the race in Maine. The candidate
who was chosen by three duebs, a Chinese woman and
two goobers, and they literally sifted through people to choose. Oh,
(17:30):
this is the guy who runs an oyster farm. He'll
appeal to white males. That's where the Democrat Party is
struggling with. We're not going to change our policies and
the thing we talk most about, which is transitioning children
from boys to girls. We're instead just going to go
find somebody who looks like and talks like the voter
(17:52):
we can't seem to win, and maybe maybe the voters
will gravitate to him. Because we don't want to change
our policies, because our overlords want those policies. Those policies
are designed to destroy the country. We can't change the policy,
but we can't enact the policies unless we can get
people in office. So enter James Talerico. James Tallerco's district
(18:21):
is white liberals in the Austin area. I am told
I don't know this. I am told my friends in
Austin who run these numbers, crunch these numbers all the time,
that he represents the most liberal district in the state.
It would make sense. Now, You've got to be careful
(18:44):
how you use the word liberal, because many people will
refer to a black district as being liberal. That is
not liberal, that is not what is traditionally white liberalism.
It's a very different set of politics. Now, what they
do is they realize you can't have the black agenda
(19:05):
or the white liberal agenda independently. You've got to marry those.
So you have a very strange bedfellows you end up
with with, you know, a Maxine Waters and a Joe Biden,
who forgetting his president presidential years. Joe Biden was a
(19:27):
relatively conservative Democrat for much of his career. He was
very different than the guy you saw as president and
the thing at that point, and you see this with
a lot of white men in the Democrat Party, especially later.
You also see this with corporate CEOs. They know they're
at the tail end of their career, they know the
(19:49):
demographics have changed, they know that they're very out of step.
So they basically just say, what do I need to do?
Do you do I need to wear a day shiki? Nah, Joe,
that might be too much. Okay, so you're taller, Rico.
You know, they had him eat at a soul food
restaurant this past weekend and he had a black state
(20:10):
rep with him. Okay, so there he is. He's he's
sampling the food of the natives and what did the
Chronicle choose to do profile the story and manage to
check two boxes that were important to them. Number one,
look at James Talerico. He's eating black people food as
(20:31):
if black people just you know, they don't eat any
other they just go to soul food restaurants. It's just
it's it's Chitling's and hogs Mall every day. That's that's it, man,
that's it. They're they're they're still eating the celebrated food
of the slave years. And here's James Tallerico eating that
food and really enjoying it. Look at that. See, you
(20:54):
should vote for him. He likes your food. And this
is distinctly exclusively your food. So James Tallerco could have
eaten at the kind of place that he would normally
eat at, which is a granola restaurant, a vegan granola
restaurant in Austin, but he has come to Houston and
(21:15):
he is eating the black people foods with a black
elected official. So look what if y'all don't understand, these
are the signals you're being sent that this is your
dog whistle. He's your candidate, Black people, vote for him.
He ate your food one time and sat at your restaurant.
He didn't even lock his doors. Boys driver, but they
(21:37):
didn't even lock their doors. They weren't worried at all,
no worries at all. They just acted like it was
as normal as and he was so comfortably, so comfortable
with you look at him. So, no, we didn't get
Jasmine Crockett. We're getting the most lily white guy you
could ever imagine, zero testosterone transitioning kids. Which, by the way,
(22:01):
this is one of the big distinctions. This is why
they are strange. Bedfellows leave aside what black elected officials do,
because they do what they have to do for the
Democrat Party and the big donors. Black voters, who will
often end up voting Democrat, do not abide the social
(22:24):
weird stuff of the Democrat Party. Now, some of their
pastors have begun gravitating the message in order to get
the contract for to get out the vote campaign, in
order to get the appointments to the Metro board or
(22:44):
the Sports Authority Board or the various plumb assignments. So
you've seen a number of pastors now who they have
the day job of the church, but they also have
a side hustle. We're gonna build some affordable homes. We're
gonna run a residential treatment facility. We're gonna have a
(23:07):
private school, We're gonna we're gonna do We're gonna do
these things that get us paid by the City of
Houston or Harris County. It's rarely the state. It's usually
we're gonna sit on the the important sports board. This
is don't underestimate that there's a lot of money that flows.
(23:29):
And if you're on that board, you get invited to
the right places and you get to take the right trips.
And there's even been allegations there might be some hands,
some some cash that changes hands over the years. It's
what sent ben Rees prison. But that's what's happening with
the Taller ECO campaign. They are panicked that they're not
(23:51):
getting black support. Now you've got black elected officials coming
out and saying you need to spend some money over here.
One of the things I enjoy, and I don't know
how many people who do what I do at the
level that I do it engage as much with listeners
as I do, and I talk about it a lot,
(24:13):
first of all, because I'm overly proud of myself. Secondly,
because it's unique in the industry to the extent that
we do it. And third, because by constantly setting guardrails,
I can manage to have a massive number of people
communicate with me on my terms with minimal friction for
(24:39):
me to do it, and it makes the show better.
I enjoy it. I think people appreciate the opportunity to
not just be talked at, but be talked with. Every
single day there will be someone who will say, Hey,
you were talking about why fancy restaurants don't seem to
(25:05):
serve cake, And I'm a baker and I bring cakes
to these restaurants and here's why, you know, here's a
reason why they don't. How they dry out and whether
they sell, and how much spoilage there is and how
fast they go dry and da da da da. So
(25:26):
that I find to be very interesting, because I suppose
I could go look that up in what someone wrote
would be what I would learn. But to hear from
someone who's a listener who hopefully enjoys the show, or
they wouldn't be listening, and for them to share what
they're knowledgeable about, and me to be able to ask questions, well,
(25:47):
is there a way to make a cake that lasts longer.
What if you don't use milk, you use water. What
if you don't use eggs you do this? What kind
of flour would if you were trying to stretch the
life of a cake in the glass case, sing at
the cafe off I ten in Columbus or wherever, what
would be the things you would do that you would
(26:07):
hopefully affect the flavor of the least and stretch it
the longest. Okay, So every day there are conversations I'm
having when I'm off air. But if someone says I'm
not voting for Pakistan, I'm voting for Tall Rico and
I'm a Republican. If they just say that, I just
assume it's a plant and don't read it. But if
(26:29):
they say, I voted for this person, this person, this person,
This is what I do for a living. These are
the things that matter most to me, and this is
why I'm not voting for Pakistan. I'm voting. Okay, Now
I can engage. I say all that to say this.
So I get an email from a listener in Lovebook
and he says, I think you're giving the bushes too
much credit. And that's it. That's the whole thing. All right,
(26:50):
So I have no basis upon which to consider what
he's saying. Just hey, oh here, my opinion is I
disagree with you? Okay? Why to me? The conversation is fun,
it's engaging, it's entertaining, it's enlightening. But if all you
(27:14):
ever stated is a conclusion, I have no use for
you and you wasted your time. We're not taking a
poll how many people think the bushes have too much influence?
And how many people think I'm wrong their partisans don't
have too much influence. Okay, well it was fifty eight
to forty two. That's not what's happening. A person is
(27:37):
expressing an opinion that I'm giving the credibility to without
knowing you that I might learn something from your opinion.
I might be wrong about something. I might not have
considered something that you can point out. I might not
be aware of a fact that you know that you've lived,
(27:57):
that you've learned, But none of that's being shared. The
only thing a person is saying in that situation is
I disagree with you. Don't waste my time over yours
because I don't think about it another second. I just
move on. But if you take a moment I don't
want to. I want you to write a book. But
if you take a moment and say I think that
(28:18):
your position on the influence that the Bush Partisans still
have on the Republican Party is wrong, because and then
you state your opinion, that helps me develop better opinions,
because otherwise I'm just one guy offering opinions, which is
what I've said all alone. I am, and I don't
(28:41):
expect anybody to agree. It's always interesting to me that
people will come up to being public saying I love
your show. Now I don't agree with everything. Okay, what
do you not agree with it? Well, just you got
some opinions I don't agree with Okay, Well, would did
it be weird? Honestly, it wouldn't be weird for me.
It'd be weird about you if we agreed with everything.
(29:01):
I don't even agree with everything I say. I might
bring up some food, did I don't even actually care.
I did it the other day I posted on Facebook
I love the Facebook conversation, and I said, do you
like Keish? I don't like Gish. I don't really even
know if I like Kesh. It doesn't it looks funny
to me? I said, do you like keish, and who
(29:22):
makes a good keish? So I start getting all these emails,
and people will then assume things that are not submitted
into evidence. I can't believe you like kesh. Keish's for girls,
Keisha's for sissy's. I never figured you for liking k
I didn't say I like Kesh. I just said, do
you like keish? I'm genuinely curious to hear people talk
about keish. I want to learn more about keish. So
(29:45):
Russell Lebara sends me a message and he says, I
know you don't like keish. You said to me you
don't like keish. I don't think you've had a really
good keish. Humhm, he said. I can't remember who he
said makes a good Kish, but he said, if it's
done right. You love eggs. I do love eggs. I
love eggs in any form. You love eggs, and you
(30:08):
love the stuff that goes into omelets, and you like
the consistency of kish. You just don't think of breakfast
in that form. And he told me somebody that does
a good keys. You can't remember who it was and
why I would like it. Okay, now I'm willing to
consider that the point is, I really enjoy this conversation,
(30:29):
but it only works when you understand how it works
and why it works, so that before you take the
time to send me a message, you consider I'm scanning
through a lot of emails. If you say something out
of context, I agree, Please don't do that. I just
block you because you can't seem to understand. I'm sitting
(30:50):
in the middle of the Panopticon and everything's coming at
me from every direction, and I'm trying to read things.
I'm trying to construct opinions. I'm trying to remember what
audio we were hoping to play. I'm trying to remember
when we're going to break. So you got to kind
of spoon and fiend be your opinion if you want
your opinion to influence what I'm If I've asked for
(31:10):
who makes a good keish and you want me to
say what you said on the air and give that
business some credit, then you got to help me do that. Jim,
you could slug that segment Michael trying to set guardrails
because that's really not great content for the show. But
(31:31):
occasionally I have to do that to reset how this
whole process works, because when it works, our model, you, me,
the show, us here together, You emailing me, me, emailing
you back, you, following on Facebook. It's a pretty cool deal,
and for some of you it's a big part of
(31:53):
your life. It doesn't replace your marriage or your kids,
but you're following what we're doing. You're engaging with what
we're talking about. For me, other than my wife and kids,
it is my whole life, and when it works, it's
pretty magical.
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.