AM Show Hr 2 | Houston Has A Meth Lab In It

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael's very show is on the air.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Texas has a horror house in it. Texas has a
horror house in it.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'll expose the facts, although.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It kills me with disgust.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Please excuse the filthy doc details and cornel lust.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The filthy doctor tails or listen dancing going on in sided.
Don't just see the gone come wild. I inquired, No
one denied it.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now I think I'm getting riled.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Buddy's close together of the legs are rearranged, and the
sheriff does not.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Close it down.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's very strange. Close it down.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's the stage men till step bringing Jean hunky on
cowboys mixing with green.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And thin left Hartis nails, crocksied lowns. Not to mention
some types that you'd never guess would venture me. I
can alder pray to loosen.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Water ninety bounds from here and now our old Melvin
peeth off sangers.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Jesus, I'll not let.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
This scandal fade us.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'll a brute now crusade. I can smell corruption, and
I'll fight it to the top. Lord the stipulation no, no,
and it must dip CONTs. Don't touch that. Don This

(02:13):
is Melvin P. Thope saying I'll be back with new
and revealing information about this and other cases. Watchdog Never Sleeps.
Here's one of Marvin Zeler's rat and roots reports Little
Nostalgia from back in nineteen eighty two. Faction thirteen's Marlin

(02:34):
Zendler is here to tell all.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Marvin Well Dave, Roaches, rodents, and filthy equipment were among
the reasons why health inspectors asked these places to voluntarily
close to shape up. Leo's popular coffee shop downtown on
Fannin was infested with mice and roaches. There were two
dead mice and mouse droppings in the storage area, and

(02:56):
roaches were crawling on the condiment cooler. There was also
slow and mold on the ice machine. Poor Charlie's on
Clay had roaches in the kitchen, hands sinking up on
the ceiling. There were mouse droppings in kitchen cabinets and
storerooms and.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Uncovered food in the cooler. Poor Old Charlie.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
There was Fishers near downtown on Austin that had mouse
and ret droppings on food and on the storage room
and kitchen floor. Fishers also had filthy equipment. These places
didn't have hot water, among other violations. The Quick Mini
Market on Capitol, the East King On foundering in Gavero's
on South Main, then the Chickadee on Dolling had an

(03:37):
infestation of mice, rats and roaches. These weekly restaurant reports
has certainly helped me on my diet, and if you
don't believe it, I've really taken off a few pounds.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But there is no reason why there should.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Be any filthy restaurant kitchens in town. The owners and
managers have the health and well being of the public
at stake and should take their responsibility, sir. And those
fours those Pyramits are concerned, they should be revoked and
remember more voluntary closings at ten. And believe me, some
of those restaurants are so bad you can't believe it.

(04:12):
Marvin Zendler, Eye Witness.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
News, Thank you, Iron. The amazing thing about that is
Dolchafino was doing investigative reports, and I think he told
me one time his contract was four major investigative reports
a year. There were two ratings seasons. I don't follow
the ratings process any longer. In radio ratings are done

(04:39):
year round, and they changed the system to where it
used to be what was called a diary. Some of
you may have been a diary responder at one point.
If you are, do not contact me. It's a big
no no for us to ever talk. So do not
ever contact me. I had someone try that a few
years ago, and I said.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
No, no, no, no, don't.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't need to. So the the the way the
rating system worked back then in television, before you could
put a monitor on a computer on a TV and
tell what they were watching, you would have a you

(05:18):
would you would measure viewing twice during the year, and
that was the best time to watch the local news
because that was when you'd get the big bust, the
big scandal, the big you know you name it. So
Delta Fino was keeping long hours, chasing people down, any
one of whom could shoot and kill you, doing background

(05:38):
investigations on things you know, snooping around and you know,
you get the wrong guy, you end up with a bullet.
Marvin was doing the rat and roads reports, not the
only thing he was doing, but literally all he had
to do the health inspectors the Health Department would give
him was publicly available still is the health inspection reports,

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and I'm sure he had somebody down there that really
liked him, so he didn't have to go through them all.
They would go all right, here's here's ones that have
rats and roaches, these rut here. They would send a
reporter out, I mean a photographer out, get some b
roll in front of that restaurant as Marvin read them
off the screen. It was absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant that

(06:25):
he would do this because his producers, a couple of
a producer could pull the health inspect report, assign the photographer.
I mean Florsheim gave gave Marvin Zendler run of the place.
And Don was it Don Cobos, remember Don Cobos. His

(06:46):
name was Don Cobos. He'd been a long time. I
think he was a I think he was with this
with the Sheriff's department. Don Cobos was a guy that
looked like he would be on dragnet. He was a big,
burly guy, and he blow dried his hair straight back,
his gray hair, and he had a big co If

(07:07):
you know, guys don't have hair like don't don't wear
their hair like that anymore. Well, I think Daryl Hall,
but with gray hair and a more conservative cut. I
never saw him. He wasn't in a suit, but it was.
It was again, it was like the the Old Hills
Treat Blues kind of look, you know. It was like

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he'd been working all night home on coffee and cigarettes.
Don co I think it was Don Cobos was his name. Anyway,
he ended up being kind of the director of operations
over there, and when I met him, when I went
on city Council, I would I would, I would meet up.
I would spend as much time as I could around
people who did that. And Don and I weren't best friends.

(07:50):
I don't mean say that, but I would ask him
about Marvin, and there were always great Marvin Zendler stories.
He was treated because he was so old by the
time he left there, he was everybody's kind of favorite grandpa.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I dragged people by to meet to see my dad
at his assistant living facility, and he's having a hell
of a victory lap, you know, because everybody's like, oh,
you know, mister Barry. Well, that's kind of how Marmon
Zeler was. He strode into the studio, everybody paid their
respects to Marmon Zemler. He come and join us. It'll

(08:24):
be like old times.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Michael Berry.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
To the real shining back in June.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Ernie fell into the Thomas in the Totten Venus young
because that's what's seems.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
He broke his neck because they've been on the bout
of Irish. He was eighty, His brain was just a
He died upon the honeymoon. When the news email from
a news aggregator, it said Americans are celebrating Saint Patty's
Day this weekend. Eighty five five percent of Americans aged

(09:02):
eighteen to fifty four plan to partake in Saint Patrick's
Day celebrations across this weekend. That was this past weekend.
That seems high. Eighty five. You can't get eighty five
percent of people to celebrate Christmas. That seems way high.
Half of them say they'll wear green, twenty eight percent

(09:22):
will visit a bar, restaurant or pub, twenty six percent
of them will eat corn beef sandwiches, and twenty three
percent will enjoy a boozy beverage. Wait a minute, you
got twenty eight percent of the people visiting a bar,
or restaurant or pub and twenty six percent of them
eating corn beef. There's no way there is absolutely no way.

(09:46):
You tell me, Almost as many people are going to
eat a corn beef sandwich as are going to visit
a bar. People go out for Saint Patrick's Day because
it's a good it's a social time. You don't typically
have to pay a cover, although now like Ale's and
some of the big places, they charged to even walk
in the door because they can, and I think that's

(10:08):
probably how they limit how many people were there. Richard
Flowers had owned Kenales, was a buddy of mine, and
he he made more the week of Saint Patrick's Day
than he did any given month and probably maybe two months.
It was incredible. He would shut the whole operation down.
You had to just figure out how you were going

(10:29):
to get to You had to park off of Shepherd
somewhere and so that he could have maximum space, and
he would, you know, he was kind of the king
of Saint Patrick's Day. He'd wear he'd wear the whole
get up and it was like a cross between Marty
Gras and Saint Patrick's Day. And everyone loved him in
that bar, and it was so popular on Saint Patrick's Day. Well,

(10:50):
what brought us to talking about Marvin Zendler was a story. Locally,
Friday night, fumes were emanating from the rather high end
downtown Houston apartment complex known as the Parkside Residences. And
this is extremely surprising. It's the eight hundred block of Crawford,

(11:14):
so that's pretty close to a minute made Well, I
guess's now going to be dkuma. I think it's still
minute made for now. It's incredible, a meth lab at
what is a rather high end apartment complex. I looked
at the site because I had friends who told me
that this is who lived downtown, who told me this

(11:34):
is a This is not a rundown apartment coms. This
is quite nice multi level lofts available f fob entry system,
under counter, wine coolers, quartz countertops, gas cook tops and ranges,
wash cooking appliances, refrigerators and dishwashers. Designer solid surface quartz backsplashes, Nobilia,

(11:55):
European cabinetry. Wood style flooring, would style floor does that
mean a manufactured flooring? This made to look like wood,
porcelain tile bathrooms, frameless walk in showers, tiles, shower benches,
free standing tub, ten foot ceilings, and spacious balconies. And

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then they have penthouses and the penthouse finish, adds thermidor
appliances in triple ovens. That's a lot of cooking, triple oat.
You don't even have a triple oven and you cook
every day. Eleven foot ceilings, electronic shades in lofts, captured
glass handrails, toto toilets, My goodness, a lot community privileges,

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twenty four to seven concierge valet parking, resident lounge with
luxurious catering kitchen, state of the art, large fitness center
with views, co working pods, work from home suites, conference rooms,
two guest suites, outdoor social terrace with gas grills, Gathering
room on forty third four with observation deck, rooftop pool deck. Man,

(13:04):
I'd like to move into this place. Covered pet oasis
and spa climate controlled bike storage, private and climate controlled
storage units, connection to downtown skybridge system, multifunctioned resident app
and a coffee bar. My goodness alive. This place is nice.

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And some dude down there cooking up meth and the
meth went bad, which reminds me of the great Waller
County meth lab explosion of nineteen ninety six. As told
by the dear friend of the show, Kenny Allen.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
This here's a great Waller County meth lab explosion of
nineteen ninety six. There was these two fellas of cooking
up drain on and all this dron They could get
their hands on the hand bottles of profanity, matteries and
long citer and then they were gone.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Meth will make people do stupid things. Remember the first
grade teacher who tried to have meth delivered to the school.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
The suspect did request that the drugs be delivered to
the elementary school which she worked. We did not deliver
the drugs to that school, but that brought us great concern.
It was a pretty nonchalant request, and the indication was
that it was no big deal to the suspect. Instead,
we waited until the teacher got off school for that day.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
She then met our.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
Undercover detective and she did exchange money for three and
a half grams of methamphetamy.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
How about the fellow who called the police because he
thought he heard noises.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
In his attic, Police say thirty seven year old Corey
Favreau reported he heard someone in his attic on Champlain
Street in Plattsburgh. Police arrived and looked for an intruder.
They didn't find anyone, but they did find the makings
of a meth lab.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I would say it's fairly common.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
The frequency fluctuates a little bit, but you know, we're
starting to see it a little bit more now. Isn't
the first time Favreau has had a runn with city police.
He was a race arrested in plant.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
He was.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
My favorite story, which we'll get in before the break,
was Daniel Rushing. He did not have myth, but the
popole thought he did.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Every other Wednesday, I get a glazed donut from Krispy Queen.
They found four little pieces of icing on the floorboard.
First they tried to say it was crack cocaine, and
then they said, no, it's not crack, it's methamphetamines. I went,
it's it's it's icing from a donut.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You're tasting.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
You know, we're willing to work with you, if you're
willing to work with us, because we've had a lot
of drug sales over there in that little area. And
I said, well, I don't know anything about anything. They said, okay,
well then you need to go ahead and put your
hands behind your back and.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Labit. Michael Berry Houston as a meth labit Did I
know the Cranberrys were irish? I guess I did. That
didn't come top of mind. I mean we could be
playing the Furies with every song here. Annie Reid writes,

(16:21):
zar heaven got a good one on Friday. My dad
Mac died of a heart attack Friday afternoon. An Air
Force retiree, he was a prominent family law attorney in
Fort Benn and Harris Counties, retiring a few years ago
due to three times a week dialysis, which he endured
with a smile, a man a few words. When he

(16:43):
did talk, we all quieted down or listened to his
wisdom and smart assery. He taught my sister and me
to be self reliant, saying, always be able to support
yourself because there is no prince charming. He was also
quick to say that we had married pretty close to
our own rents. We followed in his footsteps, becoming lawyers

(17:03):
in our own time, and along with our mother, the
four of us practiced together for fifteen years. Seeing him
daily as an adult gave me a new appreciation for
his intelligence and perspective. He loved Texas, America and his
four grandchildren. Dad was truly a treasure and he will
be missed. I wonder what the first joke he said
in heaven was, thanks for listening. Annie ps My mom

(17:28):
thinks donating his suits to Camp Hope would make dad happy.
I very much appreciate that sentiment, and I am delighted
that Camp Hope is the first place you thought of. Unfortunately,
what was our original goal? Five hundred suits? The original
goal shoot that's been six seven years ago, was to

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collect five hundred suits for Camp Hope because what I
kept hearing from David Maulsby when I would say, what
are the needs? What are the needs? Well, one of
the needs was if we could figure out a way
at the end of the when they graduate the program,
many of them are now starting they're all starting their
lives over. But many of them don't have a job

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to go to. So they start interviewing for jobs, and
most of them don't own a suit. Why would they.
They're warriors and a lot of them came out to
working class jobs. They never needed to have a suit
or now a suit that fits, and so I thought, well,
I bet we could raise I don't think I said
five hundred because I try not to set goals we
can't attain because it's kind of a bummer. Maybe I

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said two hundred and two hundred, we surpassed in a
matter of minutes, became five hundred, became a thousand. We
did an event at the RCC. We loaded eighteen wheelers
up and we ended up all in with over seven
thousand suits. Well, the guys that can't hope are so
kind as to not tell me that what I did

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was cause them a problem because now all these suits
have been donated, so they had to go out and
rent warehouse space. Hell, cash is king for Kemp Hope.
I don't want us to pay for anything because I
can always find somebody to donate. So no, no, no, no,
don't don't ever do that again. So eventually there was

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another charity that was in the business of, you know,
repurposing suits, and eventually I talked them into let's not
spend money on warehouse space. That was all donated away
and we moved on. There is still an inventory of
thousands of suits, so that our veterans will have suits
when they need them to apply for jobs. Last I checked.

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But many of you had a situation like that where
your husband or your dad passed and it's hard. You're
not about to take their suits out and just throw
them in the trash. And I remember the day at
the RCC when people were showing up and bringing their

(20:03):
suits tearful because for some of those folks, they had
said goodbye to their husband, father, father in law, uncle,
grandfather years ago, and they just couldn't bring themselves to
clear that suit out of the closet. And here was
a worthwhile cause that someone else, you know, you're living

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on in a way I am. I am not a
recycler to save the earth kind of guy, but I
am a huge repurposer. And I don't know why it
gives me such joy. I suspect because my parents were
very frugal. You didn't throw anything away. They weren't hoarders.

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But growing up, you didn't throw anything away. Everything had
another use. You know, your your jeans that were ripped
became cut off shorts. You know, the the shirts that
were ripped became a washcloth, but you know, to wash
the car or you know, washed to whatever, some sort
of a rag. And it gives me such a sense

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of I feel whole when something that I cannot use
is given to someone who finds joy in that. It
just makes me so happy. I remember I was. I
was applying at the at the at the beginning of

(21:27):
your second year of law school. So your grades for
your first year of the three year law school, uh
determine you know who you're going to get interviews with.
And I didn't have a suit. I mean I didn't
have a tie for whatever reason. And I'd come into
Houston to interview with Houston law firms, and I had

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my suit in my shirt. And there was a couple
that mentored us. And his name was Stephen Huber. He
was a law school professor at the time, and his
wife was Wendy Troctye, who I had My wife and
I had known from the University of Houston and they
had gotten married. And they had taken us to dinner
the night before these interviews, and I swear I wasn't fishing.

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I'm not above it. I swear I wasn't. My wife said,
you know, Michael has interviews starting tomorrow morning at eight.
Is there somewhere you know of he can go get
a tie. He packed to come in for these interviews,
and he didn't bring his tie, and so Steve Huber said, well,
let me think on this. We were having dinner at
their home twenty five five c. August of Potomac. I'll

(22:33):
never forget that we used to house set for him.
And at some point during the dinner he excused himself
to go to the restroom and he comes back down
with three ties, and I chose the sort of the
yellow one. Not the most conservative choice looking back, but
it was a beautiful tie. It was a yellow tie
with blue and red that I still own to this day.

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Air Mas it was, I mean it was. It wasn't
a throwaway tie. It was a really really nice tie.
And I think to myself, now we would house set
for them. And after that, I remember going to his closet,
which I wouldn't have done otherwise, to see, you know,

(23:17):
is does he only wear air Mason's ties or a
nice tie? And we go in there and he had
the most beautiful tie collection. And this appeals to another
side of me, which is organization. And the ties were
laid out like a Pantone color swath, you know, starting
over here at the dark reds and moving into the

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yellows and then the oranges, and then the greens went
to the blues. Went to the Oh it was glorious
and he had them laid out so perfectly and so organized.
But I think back to that, you know, one of
my goofy ideas, I'll never do it, So don't ask
me in a year if I did it, because then
it's just embarrassing. One of my goofy ideas for years

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has been somebody out there would donate a warehouse to us, okay,
and in the warehouse, we would make it a drop
off like camp Hope, like a thrift store. That way
people wouldn't have to throw things away, and then we'd
make it into an ice house.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Officer.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
I know it's dumb, but it's just kind of one
of the things that I go. I'd be fun left
Michael lifeless eyes, black eyes to get a dolls. We
were born sick. You heard them see my church off
is no absent. She tells me where she'd been in

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the dead room. Only Heaven I be seen soon, s
when I'm alone with me, I was born sick with
The eighteenth Congressional District. Senate eighteen Congressional District seat has
had its first major filing, and that is Harris County

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Attorney Christian Menafee. Christian Menafee is has been groomed by
Rodney Ellis for just such a role for quite some time.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
My sources had told me that Rodney was looking to
replace Sheila because he controls all this with Erica Lee.
Erica Lee Carter, who was Sheila's daughter, you'll remember they
put her in to serve the unexpired term before the
election where Sylvester Turner was installed. My sources had told

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me that Erica was going to be the long term replacement,
and for whatever reason, it now appears that is not
the case. Because Christian Menafee is Rodney's candidate, and I
think he can control Christian Menafee much better perhaps than

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he can control Erica. But I don't think he would
win a nasty race that he may not could win.
So the suggestion is that Erica that there is another
seat waiting for Erica, and time will tell what that
turns out to be. I have not received certainty as

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to what that looks like, but he has been a
steward of Christian Menife's career for a number of years.
They create these farm teams so they can they can
place these people. Christian Hollands or Chris Hollins is one
of their farm team, these young mostly black men and
women who they put into positions, so they basically get

(26:45):
to control that office. So we shall see there will
be some other candidates who will come out and run
for that. I would I would imagine Jarvis Johnson would
be a candidate there. I don't know that. I haven't
checked with him. I will, but there'll be some other
candidates come out unless there is someone with their own
name ID and a bank account or campaign account. Christian

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Menafee will win that seat because Rodney will be able
to open up the George Sorols funds and there will
be enough there to get him over the finish line.
And then of course there will be a replacement of
the Harris County Attorney after that. The Harris County Attorney,
of course, is different than the district attorney. The Harris
County Attorney is the attorney who handles sort of civil

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matters related to and on behalf of the county. He's
sort of the solicitor general, if you will, for the county.
It's mostly administrative style job. Vince Ryan had that job
for a number of years. Mike Stafford was in that job.
Michael Fleming was in that job. Stafford and Fleming were
friends of mine and great guys. Vince Ryan is a

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piece of trash, corrupt, awful human being who at a funeral. Once,
at a funeral, he was speaking at a funeral or
the owner of Liberty Cab and at the funeral chose
to trash me. And the problem with that is little

(28:16):
Vince has little bit of ears. And you're going to
think I'm crazy too. You look up a picture online
of Vince Ryan, and I once told him that the
problem was that I had tried to explain to him
that he shouldn't try to take me on, but that
he couldn't hear me because he had little bit of ears.
And boy did that set him off. Little Vince was

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so upset. He's speaking at the funeral of the now
deceased owner of Liberty Cab company. He had been Liberty
Cabs little step and fetch it for years. He'd been there,
their lawyer, lobbyist, coffee getter, or whatever else they needed.
And at the funeral he's in some odd ways suggested
that you know, I was the reason the owner of

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Liberty Cab had died, because I hadn't. I hadn't carried
their water on city council, and they needed a special
exception for their company to survive, and it wasn't my
job to create special laws for them. And so Vince
Ryan at the funeral said that I wasn't there. If

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I had been, he wouldn't have Dare said that. But
you know, maybe somebody else told him bad idea. Michael
bayzinc by the barrel, probably not the guy you ought
to take on. But again he couldn't hear it. Little
bit of ears, very very bad hearing. It's just the
way it goes. Robin. You're on the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Go ahead, sir, all right, Michael, I just wanted to
tell you Marvin Zendler sorry. I had the dealings with
Marvin about It's been about twenty five years ago, I guess.
But the thing is I was a teacher and I
had a young man come into my classroom who had
spinal diffidath and anyway, I thought, goodness, this is terrible

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because he was in a wheelchair could hardly move. So
I did some checking and checked with the Scottish Rifts
Hospital in Dallas if they could do anything about that,
and they said, sure we can, We've just got to
get him up there. Well, we were having struggling with
this and that and the other time. To find out
his sister refused to have him go because the young
man his parents had been killed in a car accident
and he was receiving Social Security benefits, and the sister

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was worried if he got fixed up then she wouldn't
get the benefits from Social Security anymore. And the thing is,
she was kind of a nutjob because she had married
a guy who was a child molester, a registered chom moluster.
You can't make this stuff up. I mean, you know,
it's it's something else. But anyway, so one of the
guys at my school where I teach at the time,

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it said, cal Marvin Zimler. He deals with that kind
of stuff all the time. So I called him up
and within about thirty seconds Marvin yells out to me.
He says, you know, it's just hell to be poor.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
That was just one of his big things.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
And anyway, he made a phone call and to Scottish
Rite Hospital, made a phone call to Southwest Airlines, made
a phone call to a carriage company who picked us
up at the airport.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And I made a phone call to.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
A lawyer who told his sister that either you get
this young man fixed up or you're going to be
in jail, because the thing is that is against the
law if he's got the opportunity to fix this kid
up and you're holding him back. So anyway, a lawyer
called him and made me a representative for the child
for a day. So we flew up to Dallas, and

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Marvin called the Southwest Airlines, made sure we had good
seats the very morning that we were leaving, which is
going to be early, and brought us on there. The
coach company picked us up, hauled us over there, picked
us up, and took us back and flew back this
after that afternoon, and Marvin called me to make sure
that that child had everything you needed. Well. Anyway, the

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young man is doing well now and has his own family.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So what a great things. Yeah, it's you know, what
is the point of having some degree of celebrity if
you don't use it for things like that? And I
think Marvin genuinely enjoyed the challenge of the deal of

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what he could talk people into doing. Is it's a
very rewarding thing. I think Marvin Zendler loved being Marvin Zemmler.
I think it was not a chore, It was not
a job. It was a ministry. I know it's Jewish,
do you just that ministry, Jamm. It was a ministry.

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It was something that he thoroughly just loved doing