February 6, 2026 • 33 mins
With the phone lines wide open, The Michael Berry Show turns into a rolling conversation about life, work, faith, memory, and the people who make a day interesting. From a Cherokee hairstylist in Kingwood and her journey through small-town America, to updates from the ever-endearing Homeless Victor, to reflections sparked by Where the Red Fern Grows, listeners bring humor, nostalgia, and hard-won wisdom. Along the way, Michael riffs on haircuts, family, compensation versus paychecks, faith conferences, and the power of revisiting the things that once centered us. It’s unscripted, funny, meandering—and exactly why the open-line days resonate.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Who have a Day? Who have a Day?
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When Jesus war?
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Get out of the.
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Watch what happen?
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Have it?
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Oh?
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Have it d?
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When my Jesus wore?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
When you wore?
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You watched herself?
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Have d?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm scared? I scared. Well, we have an embarrassment of riches.
(02:20):
We have a woman uber driver.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
We've got Jeff who wants to discuss where the red
fern grows. We've got homeless Victor. We've got Richard with
the teach me the Bible. That's David Klingler's deal where
they actually teach you the Bible. And then we've got Jessica,
who grew up in Tahlequah. We spoke to her off air.
We looked her up on Facebook. She's smoking hot and
(02:46):
she's a hairdresser. That always meant when I was growing up,
they were real sexy and real crazy. That was always
like that. I don't know how that works out. They're like, Okay,
who here is real sexy? They raise her hand, all.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Right, which one of you is nutty?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Here are you're going to hairdresser school. That's what's going
to happen in Okay, the craziest of the crazy. They
do color. That's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Color. Color. You should do color? No, well, you color
your beard?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You could?
Speaker 8 (03:16):
You could?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hey, Victor, Hey, you ended up in a fascinating place, Victor.
This Taalaquah. This is that's the that's the capital of
the Cherokee Nations.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Hold on, we got crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Jessica the hairstylist from Kingwood on the line. Oh shoot,
I hung up on Jessica on Victor, Get Victor back?
What do you mean a monkey in football? Get Victor back?
I meant to add her, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Jessica. Why are you from Tahlequah? How'd that happen?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Well, that's just where I was born, Jessica. Both of
my parents went to high school in Talliquaw. Both sets
of my grandparents live in Tahlequah.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
What is uh?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What is the web?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Where is Let's see here? I've got too many things open.
It's called the color Parlor.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
The color parlor.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, and you own it?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I do, yes?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Where is it?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
We're located in Kingwood on North Park Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, that's got to be expensive rent.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
It's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How is Taalaquah.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was really awesome. It's a little town that's like
nestled in the foothills of the Ozarks. There's lots of
natural beauty, lots of rivers and lakes. We spent a
lot of time out at the river, camping and doing
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And why were you all living there?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
I don't know, just because that's where all of our
family lived.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, so your family's from there, yeah, and then why
did y'all move from there?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Let's see, we moved around quite a bit when I
was a kid. We moved to like Arkansas, and then
we eventually moved to Texas. I think my parents decided
that it was hard to make a decent living.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, that's that's at that time. Yeah, it's hard in
those little towns like that. I think it's easier now
with remote work, but it's hard. You know, when you
need to work for somebody else, it's a difficult. It's
a difficult thing to do. So you moved to Wauksahatchie.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, we moved to Wauksahatchie when I was in high school.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And does your dad did your dad work for the Superconductor?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
No, my dad he actually was a teacher at Waxahatchie
High School.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It was nice and then and then from there you
went to the AVEDA Institute.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yeah, well I moved around a little bit. I was
in Austin for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's where I lived in.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Your name was.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
It was, Yeah, I'm actually a Cherokee. I have a
little bit of Cherokee.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, with a name like Gord g O U. R. D.
Of of all the things you could be named Ramon,
you could have pineapple. I mean, you could have cherry,
you could have some cool They were like that family
over there, that's the Gord family. Yeah, well that's true.
Kumquat would have been worse. Quot Jessica Gord.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I think my dad told me that before like they
had to like shorten their last name. They were called
the rattling Goards, like the rattling Gords.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't know, Well, I'd like to know more about that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
I guess say to become more like like not white,
but more mainstream, they had to shorten their name.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeaeople don't.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, it says that gorge belonged to the cucuer Batatia family,
often referred to as the gourd, cucumber or melon family.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It could have been the melons.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, then people would think you were part of the
Carnegie Mellon family, and that sometimes sometimes the perception that
you have money could open doors.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I love cucumbers. You like cucumbers?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
That would have been nice I do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
When I was little, I didn't like to eat the outside.
I was sweat to spoil a little brat. My dad
loved me so much. I didn't like to eat the
outside of the cucumbers. So my dad would peel the cucumber,
you know the green hearder outside of it. He would
peel the cucumber and slice it and put salt to
the side, so I would dip it. And my mom
would say, you spoil that little brat so much. You
(07:46):
don't do that for anybody else, but I was his
baby boy.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Well, you know, the outside of the cucumber is what
makes you gassi, right?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No, are you related to Lisa Dukeman, my friend Stan
Dukman's wife, Lisa, Uh, We'll talk about bowel movements and
bodily issues no matter what we're talking about and I
say least. And she's smoking hot, right, So when you're
talking to a smoking hot woman, the last thing you
want to think about is gastiness. I think that's maybe
why she does that, and staying always loughs. He's like Michael,
(08:16):
that's her whole family. Everything's coming back to body function. Okay,
we got homeless Victor back, we got Rebecca the uber driver,
we got Jeff and the red fern grows, and we
got Richard would teach me the Bible.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Hold on, it's gonna be a good show, y'all. Y'all,
don't go anywhere. This is a great lineup, all star lineup.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Michael, goody, little Nap and a bird half sad take
a liver Drey of where we.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Don't come back?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What's sad?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
This sound kind of crazy, but he's got meaning beaten.
She can running through them. Don't feel bad that boy
has it coming to her body.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Many big girls down. Here's the plan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I know none about to start back with homeless Victor,
but I'm not sure we get to everybody that's on
the line. Homeless Victory. All right, so your health is good?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All all is well? Otherwise, Oh yeah, are you happy.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh yeah, definitely happy.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Are you you're not sleeping in a tent anymore?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Are you well?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
No, Joe dog got up over the wretch. I got
a uh a shabbin, oh correct for my body. The
rats waiting. He was a corn maids. Therese this corn
maids every year he grows punctions.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, are you keeping in touch with your sister? I
met her during all that?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Oh yeah, I uh, well, we am they're back in.
Well the snow's that now? When I I love Tulsa? Hell,
I love There was a little snow on the ground already,
and I left one grayhouse stations.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What's the line take me back to Tulsa. I'm too
young to marry. Well, good for you, Victor. I'm just
really happy to hear from you and hear that you're
doing well. It sounds like you're in a good place
physically and mentally. You're happy. Uh, you're you're in a
safe place. You're I'm delighted to hear from you. Don't
be a stranger.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Okay, you take shirt, don't do you? Boys that we're
a good guy.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You're so sweet. Thank you brother.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
She used to pull up to the intersection at the
Freeway where Victor would work. She'd say that she wouldn't
see him coming, and Victor would know it was her.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Hey, miss Berry, and it would scared the hell out
of her every time. But he's so sweet, and you
can't not love Victor, all right. Jessica from Tallaquah, the
owner of what's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The name of this place? Hold on, what's the name
of your shop?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
The color Parlor?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you all expensive?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
No, I try and keep my prices more affordable.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Are you mostly just making people blonde that aren't blonde?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I do a lot of different colors and cuts. I
do men's hair cuts and beard grooming, and then all
the fun vibrant colors, and then I do do lots
of blondes. There's lots of blondes here.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
In Kingwood, so yeah, oh yeah, of course. And do
you style or as we say, fixed the hair or
just color it?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I do?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I do I style too, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Do you have any other girls in there with you?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
There are a couple of other like sweets in the building,
and each one of those girls there's like a barber,
and then a couple of other hair style it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But they don't rent their chair for you.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
No, No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So it's just it's just you in one space like
a ten by ten or smaller. Yes, how much does
that cost per month?
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Eight sixty?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And then and then do you have a I guess
you got product and you've got what if you pay
electric and all that, so you've got a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Up before you ever start, right?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Yeah? Correct?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (11:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
How many days a week?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Do you work?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Four to five days a week?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And then looks like you've got kids?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I do?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I have two boys, and how old are they?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Twenty one and thirteen?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you cut their hair?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I kept the oldest one hair, but not the youngest one.
And he wants this new tapered fade look that all
the young boys have.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
And oh yeah, have the patience to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, So for my kids, the big look and they're
two years apart, two years of school apart, when you're
a life apart.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The big look is for the little white kids.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I don't know if this is a private school thing,
but I see a lot of this is a lot
of hair, and I don't know how you describe it,
but it's kind of combed over a little bit covers
the eyes. It feels like kind of a throwback to
maybe the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, we called out the Lama haircut. The lama had
down in their face, like the Lama haircut.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, but it's it's very it looks like it's it's disheveled,
but it's a very contrived look for that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It looks like a lot of work.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
It is it does, yep, a lot of product, a
lot of work.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
They it looks like they've blow dried it where it's
it's kind of it's got it like like it's a wave.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
The big thing. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yep, I'm forty one.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, you're too young to remember. But when I was
young in the mid to late seventies, the big thing
was wings. Leaf Garrett had wings. We all wanted wings,
and so you would you would you would split your
hair down the middle and you would comb it on
to make your pegasus wings. And then you would put
the trays of may uh if that's how you pronounce it,
hair spray on it. And you put enough hair spray
(13:18):
that that thing, and that thing was stuck like that
until you went to pe and you started sweating. And
now the sweat. You had these you had these sticks
where your hair was. It was so thick, and then
the sweat would start, and then it was awful. It
was just awful because then that stuff would kind of
start melting. So I remember Dannik and Nance Christy daleon
Tanya Durio Lee huff Power. I remember the girls of
(13:38):
my school. The big thing back then in the in
the early eighties and mid eighties when we were when
we were coming up, was the girls would have to
blow dry their hair straight up, was big hair, straight up,
and then they'd spray the hell out of it like that.
They get up underneath their and and spray the whold thing.
So they would come in and that hair was sticking
straight up like you see in all the movies of
that era, and by the end of the evening it
(14:00):
would start kind of kind of drooping down. Life is
easier now because they go a little more natural. How
much do you charge to put color in.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
A plane? All over color? I charge about one hundred
and ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh my goodness. Okay, all right, how much can you
do in a good day? What's what's the best day
you've ever done?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Probably close to a grand in one day.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Do you call your husband at the end of the
day like that, like, hey, honey, how'd you do today?
Because I've met a thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
You know, I used to, but he has better days
at work than I do.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What does he do?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He does paintless hell repair on vehicles, like the hell
dance on vehicles. Yeah, he fixes those without using paint works.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Does he work from home?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
He travels, So his busy season is like February March
all the way through like October.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's just chasing storms. He chases storms and is that
paid by insuranceers? The individual paid.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
The time?
Speaker 6 (15:00):
It's insurance.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Does he work for a company or by himself?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
He has his small business, but he does contract with
other dent companies.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So who builds the insurance because the back office is
the beast.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, well, you know he kind of takes care of
all of that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh wow, I bet that takes as much time as
as taking the dent set. I had a friend growing up,
went to Western Stark. He beat me up when we
were twelve. Of course I punched him first. And Rick
Deering and he has a business I forget the name
of it, but he basically goes out. He's a public adjuster,
and I see his post on Facebook. He'll be in
Rhode Island one day, he'll be in Florida, the next
(15:39):
he'll be.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
In col He travels, loves a little o' orange, and
travels the whole world. I'll get the name of this company.
I can't remember, Jessica, thank you for calling.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh, we lost our uber driver.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So long ago.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't remember when.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
That's when they said I lost my old friend.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
I said she.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Died easy of a broken heart disease.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So I listened to the ceminy trees.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
I seen the sun coming up at the funeral, roll
it down along, looking on the human hall, and I've
always seemed such a way.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
She had always had a braid of face.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
I wondered she hung around.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They arrested that a boy that's been dozy suspect, and
they're taking him off the plane, and presumably it's cold
where they've landed, and his teeth are chattering, and he's handcuffed,
and I can't help but enjoy that. And all I
was thinking, was you cold, boy, Well it's real warm
(17:20):
where you're going. Watching him sit there and chatter his
teeth with his lips blue, trying to be so sad
and pitif the way Weinstein did at his truck.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Remember Weinstein.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Weinstein went from raping women to a few weeks later
he's got the tennis balls on the walk or he
can barely make it into court.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Ain't no sense of sending me to prison.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
All broke down, like I am, well, that's odd, not
how you look real recent, Like hold, I'll say, We'll
go to Jeff.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And then I think Richard.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
After that, let's see here, Jeff, you're up, go ahead, Hey, Mike,
how you doing.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
I'm good, Yeah, I've never one of The Red Fern
Grows is one of my favorite all time favorite books.
When I was a kid, that was like I read
that book, the movie came out. The movie wasn't as
good as a book, of course, but what you know,
the author, Wilson Rawls came to my elementary school and
he talked all about Where the Red Fern Grows. And
(18:23):
he was crying when he was talking about it. It
was it was a for real story.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And this guy was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
To me.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
When I was a little kid, he was probably about seventy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was probably fifty.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, he looks like I do now, ye, But yeah,
And it was really kind of a good a powerful
book for me. I mean I grew up in Utah
and being in the mountains and talking about coon hunt
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Red bones, those dogs were red bones. I remember hearing
that because that's not what read our own meant in Orange,
but I remember the Koonhouse were redbone coons.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Yeah, so they know. And it was just one thing
that really touched me is the number one you even
mentioned it to this my favorite book. But when the
author came to the school and got the reality into
it for the students, I mean he talked to print
of the whole school, and it was really kind of
powerful in me, you know, growing up and separating myself
(19:19):
from like, you know, whatever I was thinking in my
head fantasy wise about hunting and all that to somebody
who actually really went through this experience. It kind of
stayed with me that and escaped from Warsaw with my
other favorite book. But it was it was just a
great book, and you mentioned it and it really hit
home with me. So I thought it called and said, hey, Mike,
you talked about my favorite book.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I'm glad you did have a brother named Mike. I'm Michael,
but that's okay.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Let me ask you a.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Question, Jeff, I'm okay. I just don't worry.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
So I was with.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I was at a Steve Toath campaign event last night
with Eddie Gallagher and I brought a friend of mine
because it was in the Woodlands at the Grace Church
there Steve Wriggles Church on North Freeway, and I brought
a friend of mine to join us because he lives.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
I reman.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
What's the guy's name that played for the Oilers.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Uh? No, not Giff Nielsen. He played for the Santa
Clara Broncos. He played for the Eagles. He played for
the Raiders. Uh he played for Uh, let's see, he
played played baseball for a while in the Alaska What
was his name anyway? So Dan Paserini, Yeah, So anyway,
we were talking last night and he and his longtime
(20:30):
girlfriend Pam. We were talking about the fact that I
was telling the story. There were group of people around.
I said, there's no reason to be in a bad
mood all the time if people would turn off news television,
right because people will get people didn't know who Nancy
Guthrie was and ten minutes later they're furious, it's the.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Sun in law.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why can't tell your rest the sun at law? And
it's all a dog and pony show up.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Why are you getting think about the fact that you're
investing emotions in something that does not matter to you
at all. And so I couldn't remember what he watched,
but I've got different people that I know that watched,
and he and Pam watched Perry Mason every night, and
he got mad because I said, you ought to do
what Pastorini does and watch Hogan's Hero episodes every night,
(21:16):
and he said, oh what Perry Mason. Okay, Well, whatever
the point is, if you want to recenter yourself, rebalance yourself,
go back and read. For you, that'll be where the
red fern grows.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
For me, it would be to kill a mawkingbird. But
that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I go back and read things and watch things that
make me happy from a time when they weren't miserable,
and then I don't waste a bunch of time going well,
I remember when things were great like that and they're
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Jeff, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I do pest controls.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
You got your own business.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
H No, sir, I worked for Apple termite pests. Is
there a great guy to work for?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You make good money?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
I do? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
How much you make the year?
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I think I'm told about forty thousand last year.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How many are work?
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Uh actually going in and killing the bugs? It probably
amounts to about, you know, thirty hours a week. But
then I do a lot of driving. I'm all over Houston.
I love my job. I get to talk to a
lot of different people. I got a lot of regular
people that have me come once a month.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That feels been really.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
A good experience for me, Jeff, that feels low.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Well, you know, it's it's there's other benefits. My boss
has really helped me through some a couple of tough periods,
and uh, he takes care of us. I don't have
to drive my own car, you know. I mean, it's
out and a prayer answer to be with this company.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, I'm not trying to peel you away. But but
there are there are other ways. We are compensated. So
you make more than forty I mean all when you
think about.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, time time got He pays for my
health care. You know, basic basic health care is okay.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So what what when when I asked someone what they make?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What you get in a deposited in your bank account
is not the complete amount of your compensation.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Your compensation far more making.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Yeah, it's it's it's been a really plus job for me.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yes, what were the tough times drugs?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Well, uh, yeah, it was my you know, my wife
left for like five months last year and man, I
really crashed on that one. It all came Oh yeah,
she came back, She went on and got some mental
health and some some you know, some of her issues
taken care of.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
And by the time she came.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Back home, our prayers were answered. We've been you know,
we've been uh cleaned up now for the whole entire year.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
We're going back.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
We're back in church, going to life group.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Jeff, I can hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I can hear in your voice that you have a
second life. A uh you you are reborn spiritually, mentally, physically.
It is so nice to see, you know, it's so
nice to hear. I can see your face in my
mind's eye.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I don't know what your eye color is or whatever,
but I can see it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I can see you smiling when you talk, and it
makes me so happy to see because you had to
go through some tough times.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You had to make some tough decisions.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
But you well, you can't be who you are without
some of those times.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Amen, Thank you for calling.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Jeff.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You've got cornpop was a bad dude the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
Such a wonderful community. Oh yeah, it's a city of
first it's Telequah and it's wonderful. Everyone who lives there's
nice and grid check out Northeastern State University.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Cool.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
It's in Tellqua. It's a wonderful city. Everyone who lives
there is nice.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Some great.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Tellquah is a fine community. They got great public schools.
Telequah is a fine community. Everybody who lives there it
is so nice.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So John maccallere, who a lot of the Macro guys
will know, he was a longtime owner of Buffalo Grill.
They've they've sold it now. Uh, but just just a
great guy, kind of like Kyle t' is it Eugenez.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It just there's just.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Certain dudes that everybody knows and everybody likes, and they
they should kind of own a place in town, but
not work too hard at it because that way you
can go and see him and say hello, and you
know a lot of people through them and you just
kind of see them. Ever so often, you know the
care ride, or you know some rodeo committee, or you know,
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there'll be someplace and you'll see that guy's hell fellow,
well met. You know, you might not send them for
ten years, but you always like them anyway. So Machelere
sends me a message.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's killing me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But there is a song I think it's r K
that has lyrics that say right outside of Talllequah. I
can hear it in my head, but for the life
of me, I can't put the song together. Please help me, Michael.
I'm walking into my aunt's funeral as this and this
is all I'm going to be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I might not should have read that last line.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, at least that keeps you from crying too much.
You know, you're thinking about the lyrics of the song
that was the Grave Dancer version of Every Kind of Dog,
which is subtitled the Taalaquah Song. Turns out, Talaquah comes
up a time or two.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Who knew?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And there's homeless Victor set an agenda for the show
for the day seven one three nine nine nine one
thousand seven one three nine nine nine one thousand Richard,
thank you for your patients, sir Europe.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
The AAR.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
It's that time of year again, time for the Teach
Me the Bible podcast annual Bible conference in person in
beautiful Brenham, Texas.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And I thought that was in December last year, was it?
It was it in the spring.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
It was in spring. And we had one scheduled for
the fall of last year and in Spring, Texas at
a church and they didn't promote it hard enough and
so it didn't happen. But the one in Brenham is
annually in spring.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And it costs like two dollars or something.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
It's now, yeah, it's thirty five dollars per person. That
includes lunch on Saturday, most likely Chick fil A. It's Friday.
It's one month from today, Friday evening March sixth, from
five to nine and Saturday all day and lunches included.
The topic is the Torah. The Torah is the first
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five books of the Bible, and we believe that that
is the foundation. Obviously, the foundation of the whole Bible
is the first five books of the Bible, So understanding
it is vital to understanding the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What is something that we're going to learn from the
study of the first five books the Torah that's going
to surprise us?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Sure, well you'll learn that the first Gospel. As David
Klingler when you had him on for like the whole
I love the whole show. I love that. Yeah, he's great,
he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But he was like Steve Wriggle that grace in the woodlands.
He doesn't need the money. He's made a fortune in
football and he's invested wisely in real estate, and so
his ministry is a true ministry.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I love that of George Foreman was the same way.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Sure, So the first Gospel was given in Genesis. So
we always go to the like, if you're a good Baptist,
right you always say, well John three sixteen, Well, if
you're a good Bible person, you could you could show
the very first gospels given in the Genesis three fifteen. Okay,
we call that the the first gospel given the proto Evangelium,
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the very first gospel given where God is saying to
after after Adam and Eve says to Eve, through you,
your seed, through you a seed will come the One,
the Anointed One. And that's that's what they believed in
prior to any law. That's what Abraham believed. He believed
what he believed in the One coming, the Anointed One,
(29:33):
as we know is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I'm just reading the verse as you talk. It's okay, Yeah,
there you go. Do you teach through your Yeah, well
yeah I do. I've taught Sunday school, uh and teach
I do not, So David Klingler will be the one
of the teachers.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And you like his hyphen Are you a boxing fan?
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah, I'm kind of his high adventure. But I was
his student for for three years at Dallas Theological Seminary,
even though I'm five years older than him. Yeah, so
I was his student. I've known him quite a bit
even prior to that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Back when you are such a nice fat bits.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, I really enjoyed our discussion on air. We got
so much feedback from that. You know, we're going to
put that into a file. Jim Mudd is going to
and replay that at Thanksgiving or Christmas and maybe make
that an annual.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Moment because it's another one do another one. Yeah, soon
with him, I'm encouraging him to call you. I did that.
I told him this morning and say hey, I'm gonna
call and promote the conference. But there will be seven
six to seven speakers there all are Dallas Theological Seminary,
either PhDs or going into the or in the PhD program.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So and when is the conference?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
It's it's one month from today, March sixth, Friday evening
from five to nine and Saturday all day from like
eight am to five pm. Lunch is provided. It's only
thirty five dollars per person. And if you in childcare
is provided more likely you'll be Chick fil a.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, long just focuses on the food. Where in Brnham
is it?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
So it's at Champion Fellowship Church. If you go on
the you can just look up Champion Fellowship Church. It's
off Market Street. Uh, that's where it'll be at. So
it's in you know, make it a weekend. That's what
we do. We run an airbnb.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Why would you not or go State to Aunt Street
in there you go, that's a great deal. Did you
thank you for reminding us of that?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
What's where? Where's what's the website?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Again?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
You just if you look up a Championfellowship dot Com
or teach me the Bible if you put it in
in your Google wish to teach me the Bible.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, And what I love about this is it's not
some pastor with a massive ego trying to get tied
tithes or or a pastor's appreciation so he can buy
himself a jet. It's David Klingler who made good money.
He's not a billion ereybody, made good money as an
NFL quarterback, and he invested wisely and doesn't need to
work again.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And he gave his life to his ministry. And this
is what he does.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And it's all Bible focused. For those of you who
heard his discussion on the air, it's all about reading
the Bible. And he doesn't try to outsmart you. He
doesn't try to impress you with the Aramaic or the
Greek or what he knows or how you didn't realize
this or how you were an idiot. It's it's about
learning together. I think it's cool. So some of you
would really enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Joe, I just got a note that you bought a
cabin in Tahlequah. Yes, sir, well, hold on just a
little too.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
About four years ago we bought it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, well hold on just a second, Yes, sir Joe,
what would what would take you to Tahlequah? Yeah, well
hold on, hold on, tell us, just hold on, just
tell us.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Are you from there?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
No, but one of my friends is, and he moved
back home and he brought us up. There is what
ended up happening.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Hm, where do you live? Full town? I live in
Clearly you drive the Tahlequah.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
I dropped out.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Holdalloldo,
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Who have a Day? Who have a Day?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
When Jesus war?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh? When you wall? Watch my sand we.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Get out of the.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Watch what happen?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Have it?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Have it d?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
When my Jesus wore?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
When you wore?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You watched herself?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Have d?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm scared? I scared. Well, we have an embarrassment of riches.
(02:20):
We have a woman uber driver.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
We've got Jeff who wants to discuss where the red
fern grows. We've got homeless Victor. We've got Richard with
the teach me the Bible. That's David Klingler's deal where
they actually teach you the Bible. And then we've got Jessica,
who grew up in Tahlequah. We spoke to her off air.
We looked her up on Facebook. She's smoking hot and
(02:46):
she's a hairdresser. That always meant when I was growing up,
they were real sexy and real crazy. That was always
like that. I don't know how that works out. They're like, Okay,
who here is real sexy? They raise her hand, all.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Right, which one of you is nutty?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Here are you're going to hairdresser school. That's what's going
to happen in Okay, the craziest of the crazy. They
do color. That's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Color. Color. You should do color? No, well, you color
your beard?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You could?
Speaker 8 (03:16):
You could?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hey, Victor, Hey, you ended up in a fascinating place, Victor.
This Taalaquah. This is that's the that's the capital of
the Cherokee Nations.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Hold on, we got crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Jessica the hairstylist from Kingwood on the line. Oh shoot,
I hung up on Jessica on Victor, Get Victor back?
What do you mean a monkey in football? Get Victor back?
I meant to add her, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Jessica. Why are you from Tahlequah? How'd that happen?
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Well, that's just where I was born, Jessica. Both of
my parents went to high school in Talliquaw. Both sets
of my grandparents live in Tahlequah.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
What is uh?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What is the web?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Where is Let's see here? I've got too many things open.
It's called the color Parlor.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
The color parlor.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, and you own it?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I do, yes?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Where is it?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
We're located in Kingwood on North Park Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, that's got to be expensive rent.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
It's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How is Taalaquah.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was really awesome. It's a little town that's like
nestled in the foothills of the Ozarks. There's lots of
natural beauty, lots of rivers and lakes. We spent a
lot of time out at the river, camping and doing
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
When I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And why were you all living there?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
I don't know, just because that's where all of our
family lived.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, so your family's from there, yeah, and then why
did y'all move from there?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Let's see, we moved around quite a bit when I
was a kid. We moved to like Arkansas, and then
we eventually moved to Texas. I think my parents decided
that it was hard to make a decent living.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, that's that's at that time. Yeah, it's hard in
those little towns like that. I think it's easier now
with remote work, but it's hard. You know, when you
need to work for somebody else, it's a difficult. It's
a difficult thing to do. So you moved to Wauksahatchie.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, we moved to Wauksahatchie when I was in high school.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And does your dad did your dad work for the Superconductor?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
No, my dad he actually was a teacher at Waxahatchie
High School.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It was nice and then and then from there you
went to the AVEDA Institute.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yeah, well I moved around a little bit. I was
in Austin for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's where I lived in.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Your name was.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
It was, Yeah, I'm actually a Cherokee. I have a
little bit of Cherokee.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, with a name like Gord g O U. R. D.
Of of all the things you could be named Ramon,
you could have pineapple. I mean, you could have cherry,
you could have some cool They were like that family
over there, that's the Gord family. Yeah, well that's true.
Kumquat would have been worse. Quot Jessica Gord.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I think my dad told me that before like they
had to like shorten their last name. They were called
the rattling Goards, like the rattling Gords.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't know, Well, I'd like to know more about that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
I guess say to become more like like not white,
but more mainstream, they had to shorten their name.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeaeople don't.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, it says that gorge belonged to the cucuer Batatia family,
often referred to as the gourd, cucumber or melon family.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It could have been the melons.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, then people would think you were part of the
Carnegie Mellon family, and that sometimes sometimes the perception that
you have money could open doors.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I love cucumbers. You like cucumbers?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
That would have been nice I do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
When I was little, I didn't like to eat the outside.
I was sweat to spoil a little brat. My dad
loved me so much. I didn't like to eat the
outside of the cucumbers. So my dad would peel the cucumber,
you know the green hearder outside of it. He would
peel the cucumber and slice it and put salt to
the side, so I would dip it. And my mom
would say, you spoil that little brat so much. You
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don't do that for anybody else, but I was his
baby boy.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Well, you know, the outside of the cucumber is what
makes you gassi, right?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No, are you related to Lisa Dukeman, my friend Stan
Dukman's wife, Lisa, Uh, We'll talk about bowel movements and
bodily issues no matter what we're talking about and I
say least. And she's smoking hot, right, So when you're
talking to a smoking hot woman, the last thing you
want to think about is gastiness. I think that's maybe
why she does that, and staying always loughs. He's like Michael,
(08:16):
that's her whole family. Everything's coming back to body function. Okay,
we got homeless Victor back, we got Rebecca the uber driver,
we got Jeff and the red fern grows, and we
got Richard would teach me the Bible.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Hold on, it's gonna be a good show, y'all. Y'all,
don't go anywhere. This is a great lineup, all star lineup.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
Michael, goody, little Nap and a bird half sad take
a liver Drey of where we.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Don't come back?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
What's sad?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
This sound kind of crazy, but he's got meaning beaten.
She can running through them. Don't feel bad that boy
has it coming to her body.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Many big girls down. Here's the plan.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I know none about to start back with homeless Victor,
but I'm not sure we get to everybody that's on
the line. Homeless Victory. All right, so your health is good?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All all is well? Otherwise, Oh yeah, are you happy.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Oh yeah, definitely happy.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Are you you're not sleeping in a tent anymore?
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Are you well?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
No, Joe dog got up over the wretch. I got
a uh a shabbin, oh correct for my body. The
rats waiting. He was a corn maids. Therese this corn
maids every year he grows punctions.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, are you keeping in touch with your sister? I
met her during all that?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Oh yeah, I uh, well, we am they're back in.
Well the snow's that now? When I I love Tulsa? Hell,
I love There was a little snow on the ground already,
and I left one grayhouse stations.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What's the line take me back to Tulsa. I'm too
young to marry. Well, good for you, Victor. I'm just
really happy to hear from you and hear that you're
doing well. It sounds like you're in a good place
physically and mentally. You're happy. Uh, you're you're in a
safe place. You're I'm delighted to hear from you. Don't
be a stranger.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Okay, you take shirt, don't do you? Boys that we're
a good guy.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You're so sweet. Thank you brother.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
She used to pull up to the intersection at the
Freeway where Victor would work. She'd say that she wouldn't
see him coming, and Victor would know it was her.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Hey, miss Berry, and it would scared the hell out
of her every time. But he's so sweet, and you
can't not love Victor, all right. Jessica from Tallaquah, the
owner of what's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The name of this place? Hold on, what's the name
of your shop?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
The color Parlor?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you all expensive?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
No, I try and keep my prices more affordable.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Are you mostly just making people blonde that aren't blonde?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I do a lot of different colors and cuts. I
do men's hair cuts and beard grooming, and then all
the fun vibrant colors, and then I do do lots
of blondes. There's lots of blondes here.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
In Kingwood, so yeah, oh yeah, of course. And do
you style or as we say, fixed the hair or
just color it?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I do?
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I do I style too, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Do you have any other girls in there with you?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
There are a couple of other like sweets in the building,
and each one of those girls there's like a barber,
and then a couple of other hair style it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But they don't rent their chair for you.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
No, No, they don't.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So it's just it's just you in one space like
a ten by ten or smaller. Yes, how much does
that cost per month?
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Eight sixty?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And then and then do you have a I guess
you got product and you've got what if you pay
electric and all that, so you've got a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Up before you ever start, right?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Yeah? Correct?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (11:42):
All right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
How many days a week?
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Do you work?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Four to five days a week?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And then looks like you've got kids?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I do?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I have two boys, and how old are they?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Twenty one and thirteen?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you cut their hair?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I kept the oldest one hair, but not the youngest one.
And he wants this new tapered fade look that all
the young boys have.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
And oh yeah, have the patience to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, So for my kids, the big look and they're
two years apart, two years of school apart, when you're
a life apart.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The big look is for the little white kids.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I don't know if this is a private school thing,
but I see a lot of this is a lot
of hair, and I don't know how you describe it,
but it's kind of combed over a little bit covers
the eyes. It feels like kind of a throwback to
maybe the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, we called out the Lama haircut. The lama had
down in their face, like the Lama haircut.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, but it's it's very it looks like it's it's disheveled,
but it's a very contrived look for that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It looks like a lot of work.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
It is it does, yep, a lot of product, a
lot of work.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
They it looks like they've blow dried it where it's
it's kind of it's got it like like it's a wave.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
The big thing. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yep, I'm forty one.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, you're too young to remember. But when I was
young in the mid to late seventies, the big thing
was wings. Leaf Garrett had wings. We all wanted wings,
and so you would you would you would split your
hair down the middle and you would comb it on
to make your pegasus wings. And then you would put
the trays of may uh if that's how you pronounce it,
hair spray on it. And you put enough hair spray
(13:18):
that that thing, and that thing was stuck like that
until you went to pe and you started sweating. And
now the sweat. You had these you had these sticks
where your hair was. It was so thick, and then
the sweat would start, and then it was awful. It
was just awful because then that stuff would kind of
start melting. So I remember Dannik and Nance Christy daleon
Tanya Durio Lee huff Power. I remember the girls of
(13:38):
my school. The big thing back then in the in
the early eighties and mid eighties when we were when
we were coming up, was the girls would have to
blow dry their hair straight up, was big hair, straight up,
and then they'd spray the hell out of it like that.
They get up underneath their and and spray the whold thing.
So they would come in and that hair was sticking
straight up like you see in all the movies of
that era, and by the end of the evening it
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would start kind of kind of drooping down. Life is
easier now because they go a little more natural. How
much do you charge to put color in.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
A plane? All over color? I charge about one hundred
and ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh my goodness. Okay, all right, how much can you
do in a good day? What's what's the best day
you've ever done?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Probably close to a grand in one day.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Do you call your husband at the end of the
day like that, like, hey, honey, how'd you do today?
Because I've met a thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
You know, I used to, but he has better days
at work than I do.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
What does he do?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He does paintless hell repair on vehicles, like the hell
dance on vehicles. Yeah, he fixes those without using paint works.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Does he work from home?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
He travels, So his busy season is like February March
all the way through like October.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's just chasing storms. He chases storms and is that
paid by insuranceers? The individual paid.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
The time?
Speaker 6 (15:00):
It's insurance.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Does he work for a company or by himself?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
He has his small business, but he does contract with
other dent companies.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So who builds the insurance because the back office is
the beast.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, well, you know he kind of takes care of
all of that.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh wow, I bet that takes as much time as
as taking the dent set. I had a friend growing up,
went to Western Stark. He beat me up when we
were twelve. Of course I punched him first. And Rick
Deering and he has a business I forget the name
of it, but he basically goes out. He's a public adjuster,
and I see his post on Facebook. He'll be in
Rhode Island one day, he'll be in Florida, the next
(15:39):
he'll be.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
In col He travels, loves a little o' orange, and
travels the whole world. I'll get the name of this company.
I can't remember, Jessica, thank you for calling.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh, we lost our uber driver.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So long ago.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't remember when.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
That's when they said I lost my old friend.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
I said she.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Died easy of a broken heart disease.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So I listened to the ceminy trees.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
I seen the sun coming up at the funeral, roll
it down along, looking on the human hall, and I've
always seemed such a way.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
She had always had a braid of face.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
I wondered she hung around.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They arrested that a boy that's been dozy suspect, and
they're taking him off the plane, and presumably it's cold
where they've landed, and his teeth are chattering, and he's handcuffed,
and I can't help but enjoy that. And all I
was thinking, was you cold, boy, Well it's real warm
(17:20):
where you're going. Watching him sit there and chatter his
teeth with his lips blue, trying to be so sad
and pitif the way Weinstein did at his truck.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Remember Weinstein.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Weinstein went from raping women to a few weeks later
he's got the tennis balls on the walk or he
can barely make it into court.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Ain't no sense of sending me to prison.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
All broke down, like I am, well, that's odd, not
how you look real recent, Like hold, I'll say, We'll
go to Jeff.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And then I think Richard.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
After that, let's see here, Jeff, you're up, go ahead, Hey, Mike,
how you doing.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
I'm good, Yeah, I've never one of The Red Fern
Grows is one of my favorite all time favorite books.
When I was a kid, that was like I read
that book, the movie came out. The movie wasn't as
good as a book, of course, but what you know,
the author, Wilson Rawls came to my elementary school and
he talked all about Where the Red Fern Grows. And
(18:23):
he was crying when he was talking about it. It
was it was a for real story.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And this guy was like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
To me.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
When I was a little kid, he was probably about seventy.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was probably fifty.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, he looks like I do now, ye, But yeah,
And it was really kind of a good a powerful
book for me. I mean I grew up in Utah
and being in the mountains and talking about coon hunt
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Red bones, those dogs were red bones. I remember hearing
that because that's not what read our own meant in Orange,
but I remember the Koonhouse were redbone coons.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
Yeah, so they know. And it was just one thing
that really touched me is the number one you even
mentioned it to this my favorite book. But when the
author came to the school and got the reality into
it for the students, I mean he talked to print
of the whole school, and it was really kind of
powerful in me, you know, growing up and separating myself
(19:19):
from like, you know, whatever I was thinking in my
head fantasy wise about hunting and all that to somebody
who actually really went through this experience. It kind of
stayed with me that and escaped from Warsaw with my
other favorite book. But it was it was just a
great book, and you mentioned it and it really hit
home with me. So I thought it called and said, hey, Mike,
you talked about my favorite book.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I'm glad you did have a brother named Mike. I'm Michael,
but that's okay.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Let me ask you a.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Question, Jeff, I'm okay. I just don't worry.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
So I was with.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I was at a Steve Toath campaign event last night
with Eddie Gallagher and I brought a friend of mine
because it was in the Woodlands at the Grace Church
there Steve Wriggles Church on North Freeway, and I brought
a friend of mine to join us because he lives.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
I reman.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
What's the guy's name that played for the Oilers.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Uh? No, not Giff Nielsen. He played for the Santa
Clara Broncos. He played for the Eagles. He played for
the Raiders. Uh he played for Uh, let's see, he
played played baseball for a while in the Alaska What
was his name anyway? So Dan Paserini, Yeah, So anyway,
we were talking last night and he and his longtime
(20:30):
girlfriend Pam. We were talking about the fact that I
was telling the story. There were group of people around.
I said, there's no reason to be in a bad
mood all the time if people would turn off news television,
right because people will get people didn't know who Nancy
Guthrie was and ten minutes later they're furious, it's the.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Sun in law.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why can't tell your rest the sun at law? And
it's all a dog and pony show up.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Why are you getting think about the fact that you're
investing emotions in something that does not matter to you
at all. And so I couldn't remember what he watched,
but I've got different people that I know that watched,
and he and Pam watched Perry Mason every night, and
he got mad because I said, you ought to do
what Pastorini does and watch Hogan's Hero episodes every night,
(21:16):
and he said, oh what Perry Mason. Okay, Well, whatever
the point is, if you want to recenter yourself, rebalance yourself,
go back and read. For you, that'll be where the
red fern grows.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
For me, it would be to kill a mawkingbird. But
that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I go back and read things and watch things that
make me happy from a time when they weren't miserable,
and then I don't waste a bunch of time going well,
I remember when things were great like that and they're
not anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Jeff, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
I do pest controls.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
You got your own business.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
H No, sir, I worked for Apple termite pests. Is
there a great guy to work for?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You make good money?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
I do? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
How much you make the year?
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I think I'm told about forty thousand last year.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
How many are work?
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Uh actually going in and killing the bugs? It probably
amounts to about, you know, thirty hours a week. But
then I do a lot of driving. I'm all over Houston.
I love my job. I get to talk to a
lot of different people. I got a lot of regular
people that have me come once a month.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That feels been really.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
A good experience for me, Jeff, that feels low.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
Well, you know, it's it's there's other benefits. My boss
has really helped me through some a couple of tough periods,
and uh, he takes care of us. I don't have
to drive my own car, you know. I mean, it's
out and a prayer answer to be with this company.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
No, I'm not trying to peel you away. But but
there are there are other ways. We are compensated. So
you make more than forty I mean all when you
think about.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, time time got He pays for my
health care. You know, basic basic health care is okay.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So what what when when I asked someone what they make?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
What you get in a deposited in your bank account
is not the complete amount of your compensation.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Your compensation far more making.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Yeah, it's it's it's been a really plus job for me.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yes, what were the tough times drugs?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Well, uh, yeah, it was my you know, my wife
left for like five months last year and man, I
really crashed on that one. It all came Oh yeah,
she came back, She went on and got some mental
health and some some you know, some of her issues
taken care of.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
And by the time she came.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Back home, our prayers were answered. We've been you know,
we've been uh cleaned up now for the whole entire year.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
We're going back.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
We're back in church, going to life group.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Jeff, I can hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I can hear in your voice that you have a
second life. A uh you you are reborn spiritually, mentally, physically.
It is so nice to see, you know, it's so
nice to hear. I can see your face in my
mind's eye.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I don't know what your eye color is or whatever,
but I can see it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I can see you smiling when you talk, and it
makes me so happy to see because you had to
go through some tough times.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You had to make some tough decisions.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
But you well, you can't be who you are without
some of those times.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Amen, Thank you for calling.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Jeff.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You've got cornpop was a bad dude the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
Such a wonderful community. Oh yeah, it's a city of
first it's Telequah and it's wonderful. Everyone who lives there's
nice and grid check out Northeastern State University.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Cool.
Speaker 10 (24:56):
It's in Tellqua. It's a wonderful city. Everyone who lives
there is nice.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Some great.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Tellquah is a fine community. They got great public schools.
Telequah is a fine community. Everybody who lives there it
is so nice.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So John maccallere, who a lot of the Macro guys
will know, he was a longtime owner of Buffalo Grill.
They've they've sold it now. Uh, but just just a
great guy, kind of like Kyle t' is it Eugenez.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It just there's just.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Certain dudes that everybody knows and everybody likes, and they
they should kind of own a place in town, but
not work too hard at it because that way you
can go and see him and say hello, and you
know a lot of people through them and you just
kind of see them. Ever so often, you know the
care ride, or you know some rodeo committee, or you know,
(26:03):
there'll be someplace and you'll see that guy's hell fellow,
well met. You know, you might not send them for
ten years, but you always like them anyway. So Machelere
sends me a message.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's killing me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But there is a song I think it's r K
that has lyrics that say right outside of Talllequah. I
can hear it in my head, but for the life
of me, I can't put the song together. Please help me, Michael.
I'm walking into my aunt's funeral as this and this
is all I'm going to be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I might not should have read that last line.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, at least that keeps you from crying too much.
You know, you're thinking about the lyrics of the song
that was the Grave Dancer version of Every Kind of Dog,
which is subtitled the Taalaquah Song. Turns out, Talaquah comes
up a time or two.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Who knew?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And there's homeless Victor set an agenda for the show
for the day seven one three nine nine nine one
thousand seven one three nine nine nine one thousand Richard,
thank you for your patients, sir Europe.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
The AAR.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
It's that time of year again, time for the Teach
Me the Bible podcast annual Bible conference in person in
beautiful Brenham, Texas.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And I thought that was in December last year, was it?
It was it in the spring.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
It was in spring. And we had one scheduled for
the fall of last year and in Spring, Texas at
a church and they didn't promote it hard enough and
so it didn't happen. But the one in Brenham is
annually in spring.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And it costs like two dollars or something.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
It's now, yeah, it's thirty five dollars per person. That
includes lunch on Saturday, most likely Chick fil A. It's Friday.
It's one month from today, Friday evening March sixth, from
five to nine and Saturday all day and lunches included.
The topic is the Torah. The Torah is the first
(28:03):
five books of the Bible, and we believe that that
is the foundation. Obviously, the foundation of the whole Bible
is the first five books of the Bible, So understanding
it is vital to understanding the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What is something that we're going to learn from the
study of the first five books the Torah that's going
to surprise us?
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Sure, well you'll learn that the first Gospel. As David
Klingler when you had him on for like the whole
I love the whole show. I love that. Yeah, he's great,
he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But he was like Steve Wriggle that grace in the woodlands.
He doesn't need the money. He's made a fortune in
football and he's invested wisely in real estate, and so
his ministry is a true ministry.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I love that of George Foreman was the same way.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Sure, So the first Gospel was given in Genesis. So
we always go to the like, if you're a good Baptist,
right you always say, well John three sixteen, Well, if
you're a good Bible person, you could you could show
the very first gospels given in the Genesis three fifteen. Okay,
we call that the the first gospel given the proto Evangelium,
(29:11):
the very first gospel given where God is saying to
after after Adam and Eve says to Eve, through you,
your seed, through you a seed will come the One,
the Anointed One. And that's that's what they believed in
prior to any law. That's what Abraham believed. He believed
what he believed in the One coming, the Anointed One,
(29:33):
as we know is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I'm just reading the verse as you talk. It's okay, Yeah,
there you go. Do you teach through your Yeah, well
yeah I do. I've taught Sunday school, uh and teach
I do not, So David Klingler will be the one
of the teachers.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And you like his hyphen Are you a boxing fan?
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah, I'm kind of his high adventure. But I was
his student for for three years at Dallas Theological Seminary,
even though I'm five years older than him. Yeah, so
I was his student. I've known him quite a bit
even prior to that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Back when you are such a nice fat bits.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, I really enjoyed our discussion on air. We got
so much feedback from that. You know, we're going to
put that into a file. Jim Mudd is going to
and replay that at Thanksgiving or Christmas and maybe make
that an annual.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Moment because it's another one do another one. Yeah, soon
with him, I'm encouraging him to call you. I did that.
I told him this morning and say hey, I'm gonna
call and promote the conference. But there will be seven
six to seven speakers there all are Dallas Theological Seminary,
either PhDs or going into the or in the PhD program.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So and when is the conference?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
It's it's one month from today, March sixth, Friday evening
from five to nine and Saturday all day from like
eight am to five pm. Lunch is provided. It's only
thirty five dollars per person. And if you in childcare
is provided more likely you'll be Chick fil a.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, long just focuses on the food. Where in Brnham
is it?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
So it's at Champion Fellowship Church. If you go on
the you can just look up Champion Fellowship Church. It's
off Market Street. Uh, that's where it'll be at. So
it's in you know, make it a weekend. That's what
we do. We run an airbnb.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Why would you not or go State to Aunt Street
in there you go, that's a great deal. Did you
thank you for reminding us of that?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
What's where? Where's what's the website?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Again?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
You just if you look up a Championfellowship dot Com
or teach me the Bible if you put it in
in your Google wish to teach me the Bible.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, And what I love about this is it's not
some pastor with a massive ego trying to get tied
tithes or or a pastor's appreciation so he can buy
himself a jet. It's David Klingler who made good money.
He's not a billion ereybody, made good money as an
NFL quarterback, and he invested wisely and doesn't need to
work again.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And he gave his life to his ministry. And this
is what he does.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And it's all Bible focused. For those of you who
heard his discussion on the air, it's all about reading
the Bible. And he doesn't try to outsmart you. He
doesn't try to impress you with the Aramaic or the
Greek or what he knows or how you didn't realize
this or how you were an idiot. It's it's about
learning together. I think it's cool. So some of you
would really enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Joe, I just got a note that you bought a
cabin in Tahlequah. Yes, sir, well, hold on just a
little too.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
About four years ago we bought it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, well hold on just a second, Yes, sir Joe,
what would what would take you to Tahlequah? Yeah, well
hold on, hold on, tell us, just hold on, just
tell us.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Are you from there?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
No, but one of my friends is, and he moved
back home and he brought us up. There is what
ended up happening.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Hm, where do you live? Full town? I live in
Clearly you drive the Tahlequah.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
I dropped out.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Holdalloldo,
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