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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi, Hi, wait you'll mother girl. Man, have we got nose?
But you get.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Rid o your long a girl and we knows a
brow that home warmer.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Guys, I'm just saying, hollo a sauce, sauce, snap the space,
the face, it's the.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's raining.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I've got to go out myself.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
That it's raining. N that gay Dave. That was the
gayest song we could think of because Trump took the
y and away from it. What oh, that's the gay
bat signal. Yeah, Ramona's So what percentage of gay couples

(01:54):
does one or both go off and do what they
want on their own tongue?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ooh?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I would saying it's probably a solid seventy five percent.
And I had to guess, wow, yeah, wow, yeah, you know,
And I would say out of that seventy five percent,
probably fifty percent are aware.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh I just meant who was aware? Okay? All right,
because we never up.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm guessing it's probably around fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
What about lesbians and it's okay?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Ooh, I would say that it's way lower lesbians.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Lesbians like to fight.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
They go through each other quick though.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, that's the joke is you go from can I
get your phone number? To the U Haul shows up
like that Apparently happens that that. Uh yeah, I was
I was told that they.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Move in quick together and then they move out quick. Dude.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah. I had a realtor in my real estate office
in the late nineties named Mark Eerie and he was
a hoot. He was a gay guy. He was about
six eight, three hundred pounds, and he was just a hoot.
Everybody in the office there were I think we had
I had fourteen realtors at that point, and everybody in
the office had questions for him. And so it was

(03:22):
always a funny he always had because he'dn't a lesbian
bar and it was called Boxers, And apparently they'd made
a lot of money back in the day. And so
one day I asked him, I said, Mark, it sounds
like you were making a lot of money. Why did
you get out of that business? You make a lot
of money. He said, Oh, Michael, you don't know. All
they want to do is fight, That's what do you mean?

(03:43):
He said, Every night I'm having to break up a fight,
and they did. I was like, Mark, big as you are.
He said, Man, when they fight, they fight. I mean
it's like two dudes at Gilly's. I mean they're throwing
it's they're going at it, and you just get tired
of getting in the middle of that every night. I said,
are you serious? I have run that story by far
more lesbians than probably wanted to hear it, and everybody

(04:04):
verifies it's it's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think that's true.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
So yeah, But having a having a gay guy that
doesn't take himself too seriously office is always a hut.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
You mean as your partner, yep, No, I mean in general,
the guys can be a lot of fun and just
funny and if mothery or not, the it was to
take themselves too seriously.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's like a black guy or an Asian guy, or
a redneck or a hillbilly or anything else. They if
they have a good sense of humor about it, than
than great. Otherwise, you know, having a gay guys some
pain in the ass.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, could it could be, But I'm from but I didn't.
You didn't even get a ding for that.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, he's he's doing something else in there. It was
too quick Yeah, he's so busy today. Yeah, he gets
to straight. He's on day thirty of his fast and
and his kids are out of school. I know we
were talking about that, and then his kids are out
of school.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I know one of those guys are like, oh, you're
doing all these those things.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
No, dude, what we can do for a day? He uh,
yesterday he admitted literally for the first time, he admitted.
He said, I'm a little lightheaded today. And I said, wow,
that's the first sign of weakness you've shown. And I
fully expected he was going to come in today and say, hey,
I didn't make thirty. But man, he's I mean, he's
You remember Mercury Morris that played for the Dolphins. No, well,

(05:33):
of course you were. Yeah, he was a running back.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
You have no idea.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, on the seventy two team that went seventeen and
they only had for you only played a season of
fourteen games back then, that was before sixteen and then
seventeen and the Yeah then I was two at the time.
The Don Shola Dolphins went fourteen and oh undefeated season
and then they remember that yet they stormed through the

(06:00):
playoffs only undefeated season and every year the Patriots would start,
you know, five and oh, six, you know, seven and oh,
and one year they got to like ten and oh
or eleven and oh. And I think the if I
recall correctly, the Colts might have had under Peyton might
have had a season like that. And every year the
guys once they got to about six or seven, the

(06:21):
players would get together whenever the team was playing that
was that was challenging their record, and they would get
together to celebrate the night you know that the team
that was trying to break their record would would do it.
And then eventually that team would and they'd celebrate. And
they would always call Mercury Morris and ask him, Hey,
what do you think the Patriots are ten and oh?
They might beat your record. And Mercury Morris had the

(06:44):
best line. He said, don't call me when you're in
my town, call me when you're on my block. In
other words, ten and o's nothing. You still had to
go sixteen and oh and go all the way through.
And remember, I think it was the Patriots that went
undefeated in the regular season and lost in like the
AFC Championship game. They had I guess the Giants, that's right,

(07:06):
that Eli Manning giants. That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you can you can you John, you
have one bad day? Did I find a job?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Weren't you with border patrols?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Really?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, it wasn't border, it was uh it was Ice Ice. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh. There are people that I've known my whole like
my whole time here. They are friends that were friends
of mine that are gay. I found out about that
and are not talking to me at all. I was
the subject a rumor like you and believe.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You think friends or joining Ice I lost.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Oh, I definitely lost more friends like being Ice. You know,
it's so much.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
We're going to catch it up. Dog it gay day.
We'll have talking to other day. I got this kid
I've been dying to have on the air. He's he's
an eight year old barbecue kid, and I've been excited
to do this coming up Captain something wong. Well, something
must be right. You're listening to Michael Berry. And I

(08:18):
never saw myself becoming this person, never, But I have
officially become the person who out in public. Like we
were at Carabo's the other day and there was this
Corabos has when you go to one on boss, when
you go into the restroom. There's a vestibule there, and

(08:41):
then there's a door into the men's to the left,
into the women's on the right, so there's a shared
sink and I walk in and there's a dad with
his two kids, one who's about five and one who's
about seven. And I had an outer body experience. I
heard a person say, and apparently the person was me,

(09:03):
man I miss that age. Enjoy when they're that age.
And he was like, okay, yeah, weirdo. So I go
to the restaurant, I saying, thinking, ah, you've done that
like five times in the last month, it might be
time to let that. I don't mean to do it.
I'm just like, man, I miss that. God, Oh I

(09:23):
miss that. So I posted night before last, we don't
talk enough about pork chops, which I believe to be true.
And I get it was on the Facebook. If you
don't follow me on Facebook, you can obviously it says
a fellow named Robert Ingle. He said, my eight year
old grandson competed at the Moco that's Montgomery County Remont

(09:47):
Kids cook Off, and his grilled pork chops placed fifth
of over twenty oh. He used a braggy bomb seasoning,
but you can't get it anymore. So I said, well,
let's talk to the boy. Is that Robert or Cooper
on the line?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Cooper?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
All right, Cooper, how are we doing today?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Good?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Are you out of school?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You say sir, thank you? You always say sir? Or
did Papa tell you to do that?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Sometimes?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
What do you call Papa?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
What you just said?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Which is what? Yeah? What do you call his wife?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Nanny?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Nanny? That's right? You know what. He told me that
on the email. He told me that did you have
a good school? Are you out of school for the summer? Summer?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You got any big plans? Yes, sir? What are what
are those? What do you do? You know the answer,
don't have to tell you you know the answer. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I went to the Frio River.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
What'd you do last week? And today I'm going to
the movies?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh? Which one?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Sonic?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Sonic? Isn't that an old one?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
They got a new one?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No?

Speaker 6 (11:20):
What the.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Theater is having like a program for like a read?

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh, you must be going to the Memorial City. When
they do they do a deal where during the day
it's almost nothing to get you in the door. I
saw that. Yeah, so I saw that you competed in
the barbecue contest. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Did you compete under your name or do you have
like a stage name like Cooper the Cooker or something.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I competed under my name, just Cooper.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes, sir, not Big C or anything like that. No,
good old fashioned Cooper. Do you have a middle name?
Some people don't have a middle name. Ramon doesn't have
a middle name.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Elliott Ellie.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
That's a good name, so you could be Ce. All right,
So tell me about your pork chop? What did so
you prepared it? Before you cooked it? How did you
prepare it?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So we're like and we started my grill and then
they said, come up and get your pork chops. So
I got them. We seeding them, let them sweat to
get all that juice while the girl was heating up,
and then we put them on and we we were
like one of the first ones done. And my friend

(12:36):
was beside me.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But what's your friend's name?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Bo?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Was Bo contributing, Yes, sir, Oh, good, okay, good friend.
How do you know when they're done?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
We normally, so we'll put them on for four minutes,
and then we'll flip them and then do them another
for minutes, and then we'll check the temperature. And that
started good, we'll pull them off okay, but like if
they're not good on one side, we'll do it for
like another man or two.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, do you let them rest before you want them tasted?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
When you said sweat them? What does that mean at
the beginning? You want to sweat?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
We let them like late salt gets all the moisturizing
them innute like gets all the juice like to juicy,
and so it's not like dry.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And yes, I don't like a dry pork chump, do you?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, sir?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Do you have a favorite side with your pork chump?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yes, sir, goodle mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh Cooper, my goodness, now I want some goodle mac
and cheese. What what a choice? I love that you say, yes, sir,
that that's that's a strong, strong trait, my son. You
know that right?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, do you have another side that you eat with
the good? Did you have a bread you eat with it?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
No? No, just.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, I'm sorry I interrupted you. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Last time we tried to just new we were in
my continue in. It tastes like do you know what
hamburger helper is?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I do.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I grew up on hamburger helper, my boy.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
As a matter of fact, so we almost tasted like
the was on your oh yeah, hamburger helper, but just
without the meat.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
And then what do you wash it down with? What
do you drink?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I don't like some milk or soda?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, all right? And when you cook that bork chop?
Was it on their grill or did you bring your own?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
They provided a grill.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
They provided a grill, okay, all right? And then they
taste tested. Were you surprised you came in at five
out of twenty, because that's kind of a big deal.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, sir, if I beside me came in first.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
What who's your friend.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
The both?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Bo?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I thought I thought Bo was helping you. Bo had
his own pork chop. Yeah, okay. Bo's dad wasn't the judge,
was he.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
There was a bunch of different the grills. So I
was in the youngest age that was in the pee
weed okay, and they had like junior and then they
had like okay, so.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
You were one of the top pee wee pork chops. Okay,
hold on second, Cooper, great Cooper, Yes, sure you're eight?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
When do you turn the.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
October eighth?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh, it's right around the corner. That's Ramon's dad's birthday.
He's also named Ramone. That's not as interesting to you
as I'd hoped it would be. Do you realize that
when you add from eight to nine, you are adding

(16:25):
twelve point three percent of your entire lifespan in just
that one day.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, it's a lot, I guess.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, see like I'm fifty five. When I add a year,
I'm adding, you know, not much? You cook anything else?
Any other?

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Metal cook pancakes?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I like pancakes a lot. And how do you do that?
You got a special recipe or anything?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, sir, but I do have a special topping, which
is sugar and half and half.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well that sounds really good, okay. And then do you
do eggs or bacon or sausage on the side?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Not a bacon or eggs.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're not a sausage guy. No, I don't like sausage
at all. Well. I had a follow up, which was,
did you are you a pan sausage or a linked
sausage guy, you know what animal or pork chop comes from.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Breaking?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yes? Do you do?

Speaker 6 (17:48):
You do?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
You do you cook any beef like tea bones or
surloin or ribbi or filet or anything?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, my dad does. We on a cook you yeah,
you own it.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
What's it called?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
My dad does?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
So my dad and his friend owned a cookoff team
called Two Sauce Cookers, and then my dad cooks for
a cookoff team called Drake Creek Cookers.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh that sounds good, now, is popall? Your dad's dad?
Are your mom's dad?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
My mom's dad, Mom's dad?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Okay, all right? And what does dad do for a living?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Elevators?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh? Elevator repair? Yes, sir, I've always thought that was
so interesting. Apparently that's the most powerful union in the
state of Texas. Like, if you're going to be like
of unions, it's the most powerful. Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yes, sir, So my uncle is too.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh okay, so this is like the Polish people in
the fire department. They're all they kind of got it dominated, yes, sir. Yeah.
What was your favorite subject at school this year?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Math?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Oh? Really, good for you? Okay, what do you like
about math?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I just.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Would you rather write letters down and write a bunch
of sentences?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Do you know what eight times nine is.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Seventy two?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Do you know that?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
If you want to know if a number is divisible
by nine, you just add up the letters in the number,
and if that number is divisible by nine, then the
whole number is divisible mine by nine. No, it's true,
it's true. No the note do I say letters the numbers?
So like three thirty three three plus three plus three
is nine. Nine is divisible by nine, So there you go.

(20:00):
Or eighty one eight plus one is nine, so yeah,
there you go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So who was your favorite teacher at school this year?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
My math teacher?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Which is who?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Missstrom?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Miss Ingstrom? You have a good teaching style, yes, sir.
Did you ever get sent to the principal for talking
too much in class? Because I used to get that
a lot.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
No?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
No, never.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Do you bring your lunch to school? Or do you
eat what they have there?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I bring my lunch and what do you like to bring?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's good? And then do you bring chips with that? Yes?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Do you bring the sandwich? Has one sandwich? Or do
you cut it in half before you bring it?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I cut it.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, and then you bring chips.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yes, sir, like what chang?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh yeah? Oh classic? Yeah, I had you picked for
a classic. Man, you're kind of an old soul, I sense.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Cooper, Yes, sir, I had a doctor pepper.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh nice, okay, all right, yeah, I used to drink
a doctor pepper. I used to drink a doctor pepper
in between second and third period. I don't know if
that interests you or not. But so what we would
do is you had a ten minute break back in
the day. This was oh about eighty five, if you're wondering,
and so we had a ten minute break in between
second and third period. And so what I would do

(21:37):
is I would rush down and I think it was
fifty cents, but it might have been thirty five, and
I would get a doctor Pepper and I would down
it as I ran down the hallway to my next class. Again,
I don't know if that's interesting to you or not.
I just thought i'd share it because I do like
a word association.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Yeah, when you're not drinking doctor pepper, do you
have another another one you like.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Flavor?

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, okay, all right, that's that's a good thing. Do
you have a favorite sport.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Football?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Who's your favorite player? T Oh? Yeah? Do you have
a country you would like to visit that you haven't
visited yet?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Florida?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay? Do you have a famous person that you've never
met that you'd like to meet?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Who's that?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
The same one? Okay? All right? Okay, uh, very interesting.
Do you have a bicycle? Do you ride it around
the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Every once in a while?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Over so often? Okay? All right? Is there anything you
wanted to ask me? Because you've you've answered a lot
of questions.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You gotta hook up for Brandy bud I.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Don't you know you got me interested in that? I
never heard of it. Cooper, I appreciate you spend some
time with us. Congratulations on your big win. That's cool,
my man. Say it again. That's why I had probably
out of tune.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
You might have to edit that.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
This is Mark Chestnut Enjoy Bizaar of Talk Radio. When
we started twenty years ago, I didn't want to be
another traditional show. Two thousand and five, Rush was dominating

(23:31):
the airwaves, I mean just dominating the airways, and everybody
wanted to be Rush, but nobody could, and so I
didn't start on KTRH. Well I did. I started on
the weekend, but then I moved to KPRC, which is

(23:51):
nine fifty, which is where Walton Johnson airs. Right now,
I think they're until is it ten? They're until till ten,
and of course they're on a bunch of stations across
the entire Gulf Coast. But their flagship, well, I don't
know if I mean they broadcast out of nine to fifty,

(24:12):
but I think their flagship like what people would consider
where they emanate from to be New Orleans slash Baton Rouge.
They're the number one in the market there, not just
the number one am, They're the number one show in
the entire market. It's a big, big deal. I'm going
they do well in Houston. I'm not saying they don't,
but they dominate in New Orleans and Baton Rouge, and

(24:34):
they're probably number one in some markets in Mississippi, Alabama,
all the way Florida, Georgia all the way up. But anyway,
so we started over there. I forgot what I was
talking about because I was looking at the map in
my head, Ramon, do you know what I saw about? Oh? Oh?
When we started twenty years ago, now, twenty one years ago.

(24:58):
I did not just want to be another Sean Hennity.
I have to be careful when I say that, because
I'm going to see Sean this weekend in Palm Beach
and people will send email we talk about it. I'm
not talking bad about anybody when I tell you there's

(25:18):
a difference between me and a person. That may be
how you insult people, but it's not how I insult people.
When I insult somebody, you'll know it. I'm not going
to passively aggressively throw shade, as the kids say. I'm
gonna say it in no uncertain terms. So anyway, I
didn't want to be just another show that was doing

(25:40):
what other people were already doing. We didn't need another
one of those. There were plenty of those shows. And
I wanted to be a variety show. And I wanted
to be a show that could have an eight year
old kid on but also talk to gay Dave and
you know, have Martha Golden call in at ninety three
years what. No, I don't yell at you, I yell

(26:03):
at JIBOUTI. But I always wanted to be I wanted
to be able to build an audience that we could move,
we could change elections, and I don't think it's bragging
we've changed some elections. I don't think that's I don't
think anybody's going to go who do you think he is?
Pretty much everybody in the business knows that we can
change elections, at least in the set of Texas. Not

(26:26):
every election, but I think everybody knows the ones we
have changed. Anyway, I wanted to be able to do that,
but I didn't want that to be all we ever
talked about, because there's so much more. I wanted it
to be kind of, you know, our stage, and I
wanted to be very interactive, where where people weren't listeners

(26:46):
being talked at, they were people engaging. And the RCC
was an extension of that because it gave people an
opportunity to be really, really interactive. And that can be
exhausting for me because there's more of you than there
are of me, but it was also very rewarding. It

(27:07):
was also important to me to be able to you know,
in the business, it's called a live read or a read.
It'll get shortened to a read, and without naming names,
you can hear somebody do a quote read and they'll
say they'll be going along and they'll say, oh, also,

(27:28):
and Mobile America is a good mobile home manufacturer. If
anyone could put you in a home, Mobile America can.
They have special introductory financing rates right now at nine
point nine percent if you act fast. But you must
act fast. This deal won't last. They'll just all of

(27:50):
a sudden stop selling trailers. So by the trailer today
before they all run out. I'm not sure if they're
going to run out. Why I need to tell you that,
because they're already going to run out. But you have
to buy it real fast, because if you don't buy
it real fast, they won't be there. They're in the business,
but they won't be in the business. Unless you act
real fast, you won't get a trailer. I didn't want

(28:10):
to do that. I wanted to build relationships. I wanted
to be part of companies, and I wanted that company
to perceive me as part of them. And I wanted
you to support them when they get sick, when they die,
or when they're in trouble, when they need something. That
was part of the deal. Well, I can remember back

(28:33):
in the day, Paul Ambert, who's now Eddie Martinez he's
now Eddie Martini because Eddie got elevated to some stupid regional,
dumb position where he has to travel all the time,
and he's an Olpaso today. I don't think that's where
he wanted to be, but that's where he is. So
Eddie's replacement is Paul, who was his number two. Paul
was my sales manaster time, and Robert Reese was our

(28:54):
number one sales and he's still the biggest salesman of
the show. And I can remember back in the day,
I was trying to build this model, like, all right,
here's the deal. I'm not going to speak for companies
I don't like. I'm not going to speak for companies
that don't take care of our customers. And I'm not
gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not
gonna do this. Well, nobody was doing that in the business.
The business had set up with certain industry norms, and
you know, you kind of followed the rules and did

(29:15):
what you were doing. And it was and I mean
I think they thought, who is this guy? Well, I
was mayor pro tem of the city, so it's pretty cocky.
I could meet with anybody I wanted because of that,
and I had a pretty good public profile, so I
thought I was to cast me out and I let
everybody know it. And twenty years later, it's kind of
turned out exactly how I wanted it. And so we've

(29:36):
got I think eighty five companies we speak for. You know,
I call them every day as I leave in the
middle of the afternoon to go run errands. I call
them house business, how are things going, and things like that,
and I take such incredible pride. And then of course
Camp Hope and what we've been able to do there
because of you. But so I got a message from

(29:58):
Michael Petro yesterday and and when I started, it was
Michael Petrew by himself. And now I think he's up
to thirteen trainers and now he needs another trainer. And
you know when he came to me, when I met him,
he started as my trainer. He's my trainer for six months.
I love what he does. You know, they come to
your house because you get to a certain age, you
don't want to drive to a gym. You don't want
to be around a bunch of gym rats. You don't

(30:19):
be around the guys grown in. You don't want to
have to deal with you know, all wait on, but
you know, and I said, man, forget training people like me.
Let's train old people that just had a stroke. And
that has morphed into the biggest portion of his business.
But anyway, he needs a trainer who is willing to drive.
I just remembered that that you you don't go to

(30:41):
a gym and sit there. But he's got a built
in set of people who want you to go to
their house. And I got to think it's rewarding. Michael
will tell me these stories. Petro will tell me these
stories of he calls. He says, Look, the reason you're
going to love this is we're going to be a
breath of fresh air. There's old widow women that ninety
years old. They go into their house and she's so
excited for her work. She got her stuff on and

(31:01):
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