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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Varry Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Nearly a twenty point margin for Toke over Crenshaw. Remember
Crenshaw the only Republican without Trump's endorsement, incumbent in the
House side in Texas and starting to look like he
needed it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Sure, yeah, why not? Don't let us trade stocks? About
how about we'll just keep whipping ourselves. Let how about
we don't make any money either, how about like just
cut our paychecks. Haven't got a pay raise since two
thousand and eight, even a colon increase. So yeah, actually, no, yeah,
this is a great idea. Let's make Congress a place
where only the millionaires can execute it forward.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And do the job as wonderful. There's no reason to
kick somebody when they're down on the Democrat side. Very
interesting developments. I desperately, desperately, desperately hoped that Jasmine Crockett
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would win that primary, and it did not happen. She
did far better than perhaps she should have, given what
an idiot she is. But that's a representation of where
the Democrat Party is. A black woman who intentionally acts
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far more stupid than she actually is, and by the way,
that aunt esther impersonation. That's not who she is. I'm
not saying she's going to light the world on fire
on an IQ test. She's not mensa, but she's not
the dumb bitch she pretends to be. She's not. If
you saw last night, she did some interviews where she
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dropped the whole on esther persona, and then I saw
it at one point ten minutes later go right back
into it where she can't conjugate her be verb. It's
It's a very cynical thing to watch, and it tells
you a lot about where the Democrat Party is when
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you see it. Uh oh, I'm sorry. I said i'd
go to this call first. All right, we'll come back.
I I want to talk about the Democrats and what
they learned last night, including a niece porker not making
the runoff or not not winning outright, which was a surprise.
Marty Earl Michael Berry show, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Oh God bless you, mister Barry. I would just laughing.
I'm you're comments about miss Crockett. I've been busting my
butt up here. I'm seventy three years old on this
metcalf mouth beeast guy and I just watch. You know something, Well,
first of all, the first time I ever heard about
that corruption in the House was on your program. How
they detracted from the Republicans and go over to the Democrats.
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And that got me involved in all this stuff. Yep,
I just watched you know. I'm my wife and I've
been working is from my first rodeo in the parking lots,
sweating to death, ready to die. And I'm going to
tell you something. We had a big win last night.
And the reason we have and I appreciate your mentioning
mister Bouchet, we fought hard for him. Listen, it was
not a loss. We only have fifteen points. He jumped
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in the race late. We had a victory because we
had precinct chairs that censored mister Metcalf and Caesar Bell.
A million dollars came into this campaign and Caesar Bell
has been not elected. Kristin Plissance is going to be
the new state representative. Thank god. Now we don't have
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mister Metcalf is done in this county.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Now, when we were out there doing the campaign and
I had one of these folks come up there and
tell me we're just going to spit on you now
that I found out later, I didn't know who this
girl was. She was actually a family member of the
Metcalf people out there. It was a dirty race, and
I'm going to tell you this is just the beginning
of the campaign here in Montgomery County.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It ain't she.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, noan the crout. We tried to get away from
this woman. Wow, she's crazy, but you know, suffice it
to say, we Gwen win throw. There was big money
coming in here and Gwen Withrow won against this guy
that h Scott Baker, who was part of the Metcalf
mouth piece machine. Those people had millions of bucks being spent.
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John was always the underdog, and he jumped in the
race late. The fact that he got as much as
he did is unbelievable. It's only motivated the troops. All
of the people in the parking lots are not paid.
I had there were convicted sellings agitators that were hired
by the Metcalf folks, people getting paid twenty two dollars
an hour. The people on the grass roots level that
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are going to continue I call them the quiet warriors,
all right, and I God bless every one of them.
You're going to see these trips grow like you ain't
ever seen before. And and I got a word from
mister Metcalf Pinocchio. Okay, you're going to see that word
on signs all over this county and you're gonna find
his campaign was let's make line wrong again. We always
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knew line was wrong. Mister Metcalf's the guy that didn't.
So let me just say, you know, you tell them
a little bit excited, But I'm only excited to be
on Michael Berry Show because he's the guy that let
me know about how this all corruption was going on
up there to begin with.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's very kind of you to say, Marty, I'm I'm
glad guys like you get involved because we cannot leave
the process to the insiders. We need people like you
to get a little fire in the belly and get
stoked and get involved, and that scares the process terribly.
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Y'all are the radicals that John Cornyn was talking about
yesterday that if the radicals show up then he wouldn't win. Well,
I'd like him to tell tell us who the radicals are,
because when he's campaigning, a lot of what he claims
he is is the agenda of the radicals, but he
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showed he thought he was going to lose without a runoff.
That's what the inside fear was. They thought they were
going to get that Paxton was going to get fifty
point one percent, and that when they wounded Wesley Hunt
the way they did, throwing all that money just trying
to destroy that man, that those votes would go over
to Paxton. What ended up happening is a lot of
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those folks stayed home. We did have Now I got
to verify this. The problem is some of these things
I read at three or four o'clock in the morning.
But we did have I believe, greater turnout last night
in the Republican primary than we had in twenty two,
which is the last midterm, and twenty four, which is
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a presidential election. If in fact that's true, this was
a pretty amazing election result. Now it's not being talked
about that way because what people are comparing it to
is the Democrat turnout, which was also astoundingly high. But
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that's for a different reason. Democrats were not excited. They
did not have races that thrilled them. Democrats showed up
because they're mad at Trump. And remember in twenty ten,
we showed up because we were mad at Obama. That's
how these things work. The party that's out of power,
their people are energized and they show up and vote.
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The party that is in power has a tendency to
stay home. So if our people turned out in those
record numbers, that is a very good sign. It also
tells you that people are tired of the swamp. People
are tired that Cornyin and some others represented the swamp,
and that people showed up up to defeat that. As
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for so Cecil Bell did lose, that's a big deal.
I mean that is a big deal beating and incumbent,
and I'm happy to see it. And I think every
state rep. Look after what happened to drunk Dave, those
people need to realize you need to stop letting TLR
these other organizations tell you what to do, because it's
going to get your ass beat. Michael Berry show to
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the Punel line. We go, Gay Dave, You're up, Go.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Ahead, Hey, Michael's just calling a gloat.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
My Congressman Dan Crenshaw has lost his race. And even
though I got redistricted and I get to vote for
uh Meeler again, I'm really.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Happy this morning. So congrats to Steve to.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Us right on, okay, thank you. Further to that point,
somebody asked me why I was not dancing on the
political grave of Dan Crenshaw, and I, look, I don't
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want to get all sappy, but I considered Dan Crenshaw
of a good friend. It was a transactional friendship in
that we met during a campaign. I was asked to
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support him by some people did I care deeply about
and that I like, And I did support him, and
I believed he could be not only a very good congressman,
I believed that he could be a leader on a
national level of some note. I believed that his war
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wound was a constant reminder of the kind of things
we deal with a Camp Hope, or the kind of
things that sort the kind of things that Camp Hope
deals with on a daily basis, and that is that
when you go to war, it's more than just shock
and awe. There are people who will pay for this
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for the rest of their lives. And I felt that
was a very powerful reminder, a visual reminder. That's why
I have never been in favor of the pirate jokes
or the ipatch McCain or any other joke. I don't
think it's funny that he lost an eye. I never
have and I never will any more than I would
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think it was funny that someone lost an arm or
a leg or anything else. I understand we make jokes
about things that make us uncomfortable, but I that always
bothered me, and it always will. He almost lost his
other eye a few years ago. Wasn't widely reported. It
was reported a little bit, and he could be completely blind,
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and I can't imagine that. But in any case, that aside,
I worked very hard, and with your support, we got
him over the finish line, just barely. We were in
third place, and there was a lot of money being
spent by Kathleen wall Pew. She lost. She rans for
State Rep last night and lost again. That poor woman.
She just wants to be elected to something. Anyway. I
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have regrets because I think Kevin Roberts would have been
a very good congressman. But I believed in Crenshaw, and
when I believe in someone, I will work my tail
off to get there. And you did as well, and
a lot of people worked very hard to get him
into Congress in very short order. After that, it was
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clear that it was too much, and it was too
much in the way. I don't know if kids do this.
You know, when Michael t went off to UT i'd
been preparing him for college for years and I had
told him stories and I had introduced him to friends
of mine who had gone off to college and blew
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up that first year. They never went to class, they
got kicked out. I don't see young people do that anymore,
and I don't know why, but that is something we
had been talking about since he was probably ten years old.
Crocketton second half of a senior year, and we talk
about this daily. All Right, here are going to be
the temptations that are going to come your way. Here
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are going to be the distractions. Here are going to
be the paths that good people take and fail that
I don't want. You need to know that's coming before
it arrives, so you go up. That's what Dad told
me about. I think he got to Washington, d C.
The Pete Davidson thing happened very early, and it really
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caused him to get an overnight sensation popularity. We were
talking constantly during that time and I was happy for it.
I was not angry Pete Davidson said what he said
because that was an opportunity for Crenshaw to really really
show off, and it's hard to get any oxygen in
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DC as a newcomer. He was not the kind of
guy to be a backbencher and put in the time
and grind and get to the top. And then I
just started getting reports of things he was saying and
things he was doing, and I told him that, and
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I told him that to the point that I finally
wrote a very long message and said, I need you
to understand I am no longer your supporter. I am
disappointed in what you've done, and you've crossed a line
that I don't think you can get back, and you
really need to look in the mirror and check your
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ego and change course, because you have lost focus of
what got you to Congress and your mission and the
views of your constituents, to which he responded, are you drunk?
And I thought, well, I read this again last night.
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I went back to review every text we've ever had,
and at the time I was getting ready, I was
going to do a half marathon. My wife was pushing
me to do a half marathon. This was in twenty
twenty September twenty fifth, twenty twenty, and she wanted me
to do the half marathon in January. And you know,
your wife gets this sort of you know, wouldn't it
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be cute thing? You don't want to say no, I'm lazy.
But I had said I would and she's a marathoner,
so we were running every day. And so that's incompatible
with drinking or in that matter. What's worse. I can
stop drinking. I do for long periods of time. What's
very hard for me to stop is smoking. I love
my cigars. I don't need a lecture. Please don't email me.
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And so he said, are you drunk? And I said no,
As a matter of fact, I'm preparing for And I
saw my text last night I said I'm preparing for
a marathon. And I read through every message that we
had had during that period of time, and the whole time,
I'm thinking he has the same thread because he posted.
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He knows that we had all these conversations. So for
him to say I don't know why Michael Berry doesn't
support me, it's because I didn't spend money, it's very odd.
I know that he looks at that knowing that he's
lying and knowing that he knows he's lying, and I'm
reading through that. But there was one thing I said
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to him that I regret, and not the that you
wasted that money. You should have spent it on iHeart.
I believe that. By the way, I do believe he
should have been spending it on iHeart. I don't make
a penny off that. That's not how I get paid.
I've told you this, but I do think you should
have been spending on iHeart. If you don't think that
our listeners affect the elections, look at last night, he
should look what he does now. He should have been
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spending on iHeart. But the only thing that I said
in that exchange it made me uncomfortable, the only thing,
and it bothered me. It still bothers me this moment.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I know what's your name to say, Michael Buddy.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
To finish the statement, I reviewed my text exchanges with
Dan Crenshaw last night. There hasn't been one since I
think twenty twenty one, and I did not reveal these
at the time, as I said, because I think it's
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a bitch move among friends to go posting text exchanges.
For almost every friend I have, there is something I've
said or they've said that if you were to post it,
you'd say, y'all are monsters. Or we make every kind
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of joke you can imagine, and we have fun with it.
And I will tell you the worst are my black friends,
because they have no barriers and they will say things
that if you ever saw, you'd go, oh my god.
That's what friends do. There's trust. Humor is especially because
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my style of humor is absurdism. My wife doesn't get it,
but you know some of it. The person who's the
worst or best or most active at it is Chance MacLean.
And you say things that are so ridiculous and so
absurd that they're un thinkable. And that's the humor, and
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that's hard for people to understand. It's kind of a
cross between kind of a money python and Tony Hinchcliffe
and maybe Richard Pryor. But it's not for everybody. And
so I don't think those. I think there's a trust
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when you text, and even if the friendship goes sour
or the political transactional relationship goes sour, you don't expose
those and that's why I did not in my defense,
I also did not in my defense because I'm not
on the ballot, and I think that unfortunately for him,
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his people, who I know very well, one of whom
worked on my campaigns going back twenty five years ago,
and I know all their people, most of their people,
and they they had internal numbers that were showing that
the things we were saying were hurting him badly. Among
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his voters, most of him knew him, most of whom
knew him when we introduced him to them. He's not
a person that had name id or deep relationships that
was not his. He came out of nowhere, so it
was kind of an overnight sensation that was not deep.
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He did not nurture those relationships, quite the opposite, and
it kept going down and there was a slow burn
on the on the blowback on him. You can go
back whether it was two years or four years ago
and look at the challenger who had over I think
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it was a Jamison that had over forty percent of
the vote and didn't spend any money. That's that's your
sign that you're in trouble. That's you. You can spend
all the money in the world calling your opponent nasty name,
that's a bad sign. So in any case, of those
text exchanges, there was one thing I did that I'm
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a little I'm looking in the mirror and saying is
a little bit sketchy. I wrote. The problem is I
do voice to text, and I have a tendency where
you listen, I have a tendency to repeat myself. So
rather than make a point and move on, which I
would do if I'm writing, I can be a very
succinct and direct writer, but when I talk, I have
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a tendency to get into this flow and kind of
a Jesse Jackson repetition pattern, John F. Kennedy repetition pattern.
And it doesn't come off well when you look at
it a day or two later, and it and because
so many words get misspelled, because it's voice detect and
I don't go back and look at it. Yeah, it
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can look a little funny, but everybody who knows me
knows that I do this.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
And so.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
The one thing I say that I'm not sure of
that that can't hold up is that he said I
wrote him a long message, and I basically said, I
hear from precinct chairman, I hear from activists, I hear
from lobbyists, I hear from your colleagues. I literally hear
from everyone, and the number one thing they bring up
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is that you've gone, You've wandered off the reservation, that
you are out of control, you are arrogant and obnoxious,
and that somebody needs to talk to you about it.
And I guess I'm the only one who cares enough
about you to do so. So now I've done it,
I'm walking away. We're never talking again, and use this
as a learning list. That's what I said, and in
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so many words plus ten. But that's what I said.
But one thing I said, which was sketchy. He responded
to that, and I said it about three or four
different ways when he would ask questions and give me
the name of someone who said that, I'm not going
to do that. If they wanted you to know their name,
they would have said it to you. Do you think
I'm making it up? What do I have to gain?
And as I said, I thought you might be president
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one day. I was willing to work to help you
get there, not now. But none of this matters. The
sketchy part. I'm gonna be full confession here is he said,
after about the third time of this, Are you drunk?
Why are you saying this to me, Why are you
criticizing me like this? Are you drunk? And I said,
I am not. I am not drinking right now because
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my words exactly, I am preparing to run a marathon. Okay,
I was never preparing to run a marathon. I was
at most preparing to run a half marathon, right. I
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read that about five times and I said, well, maybe
the half didn't make it. Its void to text. Mm hmm.
I don't believe that. Maybe sometimes I'm distracted while I'm
talking doing voice to text. I don't know. I think
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full disclosure, I think I might have exaggerated. I think
that in my mind at that point, I was trying
to make my point that you have got to change
your ways. You've got to fix this problem. You've I
got to shake you out of this this ego maniacal
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trance you're in. And to prove the point if you
think I'm saying this because I've been drinking, by the way,
the second time we've had this round of conversations. The
other one was in the afternoon. But as a matter,
if you think I have had no I haven't, and
let me prove it. I'm preparing for a marathon. I
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was preparing for a half marathon which I didn't run,
and I feel like that's a bit of a bestive.
You know what I'm saying, there's you know what I mean?
It's uh when I don't look at you. When Marcus
Latrell was finishing his forty day fast and he lost
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fifty pounds, somebody asked me, you think he's ever Actually
a no, that's just it. If Marcus had had had
a moment of weakness on day twenty two and eaten something,
he would tell you that that's just that is it
is that important to him that when he says I
did a forty day fast, he's not exaggerating. You can
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take that to the bank. And I feel like I
might have been fudging a little bit for effect there.
Other than that, I have no regrets. Am I happy? No,
I'm not happy. That's you know. I think Steve top
would do a great job. I'm happy for Steve. I
think the district will be better off all of those same. No,
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I'm not happy for for Data. I hope, I hope.
I hope he fixes what all went wrong in his
life and goes on to happen. I genuinely do. The
funny thing is, Jeffrey Lynn wrote this. It's not a cover.
This is ELO's version. Everybody John versions, everybody knows and
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that's them. Scene back every el O song. The vocals
all sound kind of the same. And I'm okay with that.
All right, to the phone lines, we go seven one,
one thousand, trouble You're up, Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Yes, sir, I just like to say, let's go Brandon
Brandon Herrera, Texas District twenty three. I noticed something that
they they don't want to say his name in the
mainstream media. They referred to him as the opposition candidate
or the opponent. I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, they don't want to Herrera with an R after it.
Where do you live.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
So I'm not in his district?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
No, no, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
It doesn't still like him anyhow, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, no, I think that's that's a His race was Gonzales, right.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Right, Tony Gonzalez the incumbent. A little bit of controversy,
but a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know what's the craziest thing about that, that's an
understatement of the year. Gonzales. Tony Gonzalez has had has
had some real problems but the the woman that he
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was having an affair with in his office set herself,
set herself on fire to kill herself. Now, whatever someone
does in their personal life, you can choose, you know,
how much that bothers you, whatever else. But it is
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the point at which a person commits suicide takes us
to a whole different level. Because but what's really odd
about that is when you study the means by which
people commit suicide, and there is a whole study of
this by criminologists. Women for instance, don't typically quote unquote
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blow their brains that the don't shoot themselves in the
head because they're more vain. They don't want, they don't want,
they've worked so hard their entire lives on this on
a face. Because your beauty is more important to women
than men. In how you present yourself. It's more important
to us too, by the way. That's not that they're
being shallow. But to light yourself on fire as a
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means self immolation is such a powerful statement. You know,
in the Vietnamese Buddhist monks doing that, that really makes
such a powerful statement. You cannot be unmoved by that.
When someone does that as a political statement, you know,
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we had this guy a couple of years ago. He
was serving active duty in the military, and he filmed
himself setting himself on fire, and he went absolutely cuckoo.
And I didn't agree with his politics or his case
or whatever else, but one cannot be unmoved watching it
and seeing this guy dows himself. You remember this remark,
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he doused himself and then he lit it, And I
remember somebody talked to his father, and I just thought,
that's the cruelest fate of all to know. So it's
one thing that you're going to miss the companionship the
affection of your son for the rest of his life,
but to know that he suffered, and to know that
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he chose to suffer, which means how much pain he
was in suicide. Like everybody else, I have had a
relative who committed suicide. Most people know someone who has,
and then there's people that I knew but not so well.
My uncle took his own life, and it has I
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don't know if that gave me some different perspective, but
I'll tell you my perspective on it, and that is
I get angry when people talk about suicide as being cowardice.
It is not cowardice. Could you do it? I couldn't.
It's a hard thing to do. It's not a noble
thing to do. It's a hard thing to do, and
we're not wired to do it. We are wired to
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preserve and perpetuate the species. We're not wired to kill ourselves.
I think about the links Marcus Latreull went to stay alive.
It would have been easier to roll over and die.
He's just watched all his buddies die. The likelyhood he's
going to get out of there is less than one percent.
His polymarket's odds are not good. What drove him He
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wasn't married at the time, He hadn't even met his
wife at the time. He had no children. His father
died when he was young. It was only his mom.
He had friends back home and there was like a
watch party hoping he would make it. But he didn't
know all that what drove him. I don't know. I
don't know. I've asked the question. But it's a drive
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to survive. We have an instinctive natural We didn't choose it.
A drive to survive, and so for someone to overcome that,
it's not because they're an awful, weak, terrible person. It's
because the pain is so great, and so I think
there's there's room for some sympathy andathy and compassion to
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know how bad they were hurting, and to just call
it cowardice or weakness or whatever we call it, even
making it illegal. How stupid well Bob killed himself. I
guess we'll oh. I guess we won't be able to
punish him, but we would have. It's the dumbest thing
that laws against suicide. To be hurting so damn bad, lee,
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to be hurting so bad that the only way you
see out is to take your own life. I think
the only reaction any of us should ever have is
compassion for the pain that person was going through. And
our job, our responsibility, our challenge, is to show people
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it can get better, It will get better, will will
help you get it better. This was the worst, it's
going to get better. And here's how we're going to
have a plan to get better. That's what they do
at Camptol. They teach. They teach veterans almost all of
them have committed, have attempted to commit suicide already, sometimes
multiple times, is to teach them that no matter how
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dark the day gets, here's how you get through that
day to the next day. And here is the remembrance
of all the people around you who love you. Let's
not hurt them, Let's survive and thrive. So anyway, the
Gonzales thing, it's not the having the affair that I
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would expect to bring him down. It is that she
took her life in that manner. In that manner, especially
a young beautiful woman, is a sense that he wronged
her to such a degree. I am surprised that has
not caused him more problems. But Gonzales is a pretty
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good he's a pretty glib fella. He's a pretty good
uh politician. I don't know, it's gonna it's gonna be
a interesting race. I think her wins that race, but
it's gonna be interesting. Eve Yeah, oh hold on, we're
up against the break hold out there. I'm gonna go
eve R c Andy, Tomas and Ricardo coming up.