February 4, 2026 • 32 mins
From Bill Gates to pastors with coffee shops to concierge doctors—this is a blunt conversation about hypocrisy, values, and hard truths people don’t want to hear. If you say you “can’t afford” something, the real question is whether you just don’t value it enough to sacrifice for it.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It was reported that you continue to meet with him
over several years, and that, in other words, a number
of meetings.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What did you do when you found out about his backline?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners,
and there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
This has been the most looks like at least the
most significant of the releases of Epstein files. I want
to talk about Bill Gates first because emails from Jeffrey
Epstein himself claimed that the Microsoft founder contracted a sexually
transmitted disease even tried to secretly give his then wife
Melinda antibiotics.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
This morning, new questions are swirling around the state of
Bill and Melinda Gates's marriage leading up to last week's
divorce announcements Cratchcrat. Last week, the multi billionaires announced in
a joint statement they were ending their twenty five year
marriage because we no longer believe we can grow together
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as a couple. One source of concern for Melinda, a
global advocate for women and girls, was Bill's dealings with
convicted sex offender Jeffrey epsteinscrat.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Scratch scratch, dass scratched.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
According to documents obtained by the journal, Melinda and her
advisors held a number of calls with divorce lawyers in
October twenty nineteen. The same month, The New York Times
first reported that Bill met with Epstein on numerous occasions
starting in twenty eleven, after Epstein had served time for
soliciting prostitution.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gabs had
additional affairs, and that he tried to get medication to
treat a sexually transmitted infection.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
These news articles with these details.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Sad, just unbelievable sadness. I left my marriage. I had
to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The fact I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation.
So it's just sad. That's the truth, right.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
And and it's kind of like, at least for me,
I've been out of you vall in life.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
As Chacra.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Chads scratitude, Bill Gates is turning his focus from software
to hardware. The Microsoft founder is giving a one hundred
thousand dollars grant to whomever can build a better condom.
It's part of his Grand Challenges initiative.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The goal is to make a.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Condom that feels good enough for men around the world
to want to wear it, and to therefore, very importantly
to prevent disease. And un wanting to get.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Lecturing the country on what we should do.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
During COVID, how he would like to see government lock
us down and mask us forcefully and jab us forcefully.
And he's off giving his wife an STD from the
little underage girls. He's bonking with Jeffrey Epstein illegally. Beware
the false prophets. Beware I it's talk about James tall
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Rico yesterday Beto with the Bible. Somebody brilliantly called him.
I don't know who said that, but I can't take
it as my own. I wish I could. It was
very clever. A guy who walks around claiming that his
support of abortion is because he believed the virgin Mary
was given the choice as to whether or not to
have a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And he takes that to.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Me and she wasn't sure whether she'd go to the
abortion clinic or have the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's his, that's his logic.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, And somewhere there's probably a suburban mom who's never
read the Bible who said, you know, he might be right.
I had never thought about it, you know. I try
to keep an open mind on these things. That's the
most dangerous voter, the naive neighbor. She's real nice. She
doesn't believe anybody could do any ill. She's shocked to
know that Bill Gates is a demon. Tacka Timothy four
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three through four says for the time is coming when
people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears,
they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
and will turn away from listening to the truth and
wander off into myths. Do you think we might have
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witnessed the era of the televangelist, who is an example
of those who could not endure sound teaching, but having
itchy ears, have accumulated for themselves teachers to suit their
own passions. Why should I hear about the Word of
God and sacrifice and struggle and discipline and conviction, difficulty
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and strife when I can go over there where they
got a coffee shop in the church, and the pastor
will tell me that I'm meant to be rich, wealthy
that if I just pray a little harder and show
up every Sunday, all things will be given to me.
I really like this new prayer of job as we're
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doing at church. Yeah, it's an eight part series. I
have gives some blessings coming my way, I just didn't
know to claim them if I just keep going to church. Wow, okay,
sounds to me like a repackaged fraud scam.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
In the in the mask of a church. But you
do you.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
The verse before that first Timothy, sorry, first the verse
in the book before that one Timothy four one through
two says, Now the spirit expressly says that in later
times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves
to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity
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of liars whose consciences are seared. And then tewod Timothy
four to three through four says, for the time is
coming when people will not endure sound teaching.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Why will they not? Are you playing Star Wars? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Why will they not endure sound teaching? For the same
reason that children don't want to be disciplined, For the
same reason that people don't want limitations put on.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Their personal behaviors. It's easier to have a free for all.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
For the time is coming when people will not endure
sound teaching, but having itchy ears, they will accumulate for
themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn
away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Isn't it amazing how.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
You see that happening before your very eyes, Someone who
is uncertain about their own lives and their own decisions,
and so they go seeking someone of the cloth. If
I can find me somebody that'll tell me this, and
you can whatever you want to be told, then I'll
feel good about these decisions that I was already going
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to make.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
All right, I'll tell you I'm voting for coming up
just a moment.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Michael Berry Show, When You puts the Cat Nose.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Lots new pussy Cat. We added a new show sponsor.
A couple of months ago.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We were looking for a concierge doctor to add because
I get asked that question a lot, and we landed
on a doctor named John Cottingham. He's in Webster, But really,
if you have a if you have a conciers doctor,
really doesn't matter where they are, because you don't need
to go into the doctor all day.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Every day.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I talked to one or another doctor three or four
times a week. Actually, if it's completely social, four or
five times a week. Don't ever go to the doctor's office.
I don't want to go to the doctor's office. I
want to go part You know, if you go back
to maned state of nature, there was a time where
we lived in a tent and we didn't have mechanized
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transportation or communication or entertainment or all of this. And
eventually there was one person in the village who would
do some studying and learn the basics of healing powers.
And the women probably knew more than he did, but
eventually that'd send him off and he would learn kind
of the best practices of the era and come back
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and you know, these are the best foods for healing
and these sorts of things. And somewhere along the way
we went from the guy who was supposed to be
the healer to an entire construct that's a hassle. And
it became that that was what medicine was. You would
call to get an appointment, because the lord knows the
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doctor is so important we've got. It has to be
months from now that you can go see the doctor.
That's how important the doctor is. Well, what if I
got something that I'm worried about?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Here?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
What am I supposed to do for months on end?
And I find out that people just wait, Okay, it's
it's February fourth. You can't see me till mid June.
All right, this isn't cosmetic, this is real. It's important.
I need to know right now. What do I have
is most people are like me. They just want to
know that what they have is not going to kill them,
because you don't want to be just about to die
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and go Yes, Michael Berry died because he had a
little bitty pin prick cut and he let it get
gangrenous and now he has died and he feels so
stupid out at Just tell me I'm not going to die,
and that's fine. But for me, my relationship with my
doctors is a text message. It might be a picture, Hey,
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this is what's happened here. It might be how I'm feeling.
It's often an article I've read much to their sugar,
and I don't encourage you to do this, but hey,
you know they're saying that you know you can increase
particular mineral in your diet and makes a difference. Hey,
I'm reading that the virtues of getting direct sunlight in
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the increased vitamin D exposure outweigh the old dermatologist's fear
of sunlight and skin cancer.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And sometimes they haven't read on it lately, and they
will go read and we'll engage in a conversation as
a hobbyist in this subject.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But in any case, I added a.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Concierge doctor, which is kind of that type of relationship
that you pay for you pay. I forget what his
is up front. I think it's twenty five hundred. Some
of them charge more than that. I don't think any
of them charge less than that. But I know one
that charges seventy five hundred. And if you say to yourself, oh,
I don't pay that, not pay twenty five hundred urs
some munch, then you're not a You know, we have
a broad audience. Some people make twelve dollars an hour.
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Some people are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So
when I talk about things, everything is not suitable for everybody.
And it's okay if you can't afford something. That doesn't
mean I shouldn't talk about it, or I've lost a
common touch, or I forgot where I can't. No, no, no,
don't do that. Don't do that. That is beneath you,
and that won't be tolerated by me. There is kind
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of a sweet spot of arrange that people make. So
whether you can call up twenty five hundred up front
to have that kind of relationship with a doctor, I
guess you have to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But I will say this, and nobody this talks about
the tough teachings.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I'm not your preacher here, but I will tell you this,
and I will say this again. This is important and
this should convict a few of you. People will say
to me, oh, I don't have let's take this in.
I don't have twenty five hund dollars to pay doctor. Okay,
I understand, Yeah, I mean you got all this rich presents. Okay,
all right, I'm just looking at the other expenses that
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you laid out that you really didn't that were completely
by choice.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So it's not that you don't have twenty five hundred dollars.
For many people, this is the case.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's that you don't value that in life to put
twenty five hundred dollars on it. When people tell me
they don't want to eat it this way, they can't
afford to eat it this or that restaurant, and then
I go, well, you do do this. Yeah, So what
you mean is you don't value it that much, And
that's okay. There are a lot of things I don't
do because I don't value something as part of my
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overall mix of expenses to that level.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So if it cost me nothing, I do that. If
it cost me this amount, I'd never do it. If
it's somewhere along the sliding scale, I would do it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So for many people, twenty five hundred dollars you're upfront.
And this is true of a lot of stuff I
talk about. For many people that's nothing. They go, yeah,
I drop that at dinner with expensive wine, and I
do know people that do that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And then there are other people that go, Okay, that pinches,
but I'll do.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It, and the other people who say, look, I literally
don't have a penny left over at the end of
the month. Okay, that's fine, but it's important that we
understand a difference between I can't afford something and I
don't value it enough to make other sacrifices in my life.
I was shocked when Petru started as my trainer, and
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you pay.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Quarterly and up front. I wasn't sure.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I wanted to pay quarterly, but it wasn't sure I
want to pay for training like that. And my wife said,
how about if you're fifty to fifty? I push you
over the edge. I think you'll feel better if you train.
I said, huh, you care enough to give me that
advice to kind of needle me when I didn't want to. Yeah,
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I do. I think it's that important to you. Well,
now I don't question it. It was brilliant. It was
the best advice. My wife doesn't nag, she doesn't give
advice to every turn, but when she takes the time
to give me advice, I know that she knows that
she's risking that. I'm going to tell her. I don't
want to be a hand packed husband whose wife tells
them what to do. How dare you so for her
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to risk getting, you know, a SNA like that. She
has to believe it's important. There again, are you going
to pay good money for somebody to come to your
house and train you. And when I tell friends of mine,
they say, hey, I'm gonna train with Petro.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
And I say, well, here's here's what I believed the
cost to be, and here's what. And if someone says
I can't afford it, and they drove up in one
hundred and thirty thousand dollars car, I said, no, no, no, no,
I choose not to afford it. There's a lot of
things we can afford. We have to be honest with
what we value. And that's okay. We each have our
own value, but let's not say we can't afford.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
It till t me a second hand.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Got seven round.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The place, three little.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Exact in the Sarsky.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He's the one to God, He's the one, the big.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
He's the one to go.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Holiday cat does do Sunday but last three times sad.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
He's the one to go. He's the one. He's the one.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He's gonna be away.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So I'm gonna try to get the complete endorsement list
out tomorrow. I understand people want me to release it now,
but just a word of caution, let's be reasonable here.
Voting starts on the seventeenth. I understand people need some
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sense of certainty in their lives. If I rush in
print a list today versus tomorrow versus next week. But
I am trying to get it out, how is that
going to change anything. You're not going to vote until
the seventeenth at the earliest. I guess you could be
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absentee voting. I mean, I love that people are fired
up to vote, but there are there My challenge so
that you understand, it's not a question of being lazy.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My challenge is.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
There are races where I sense that one candidate might
be better than the other, but I'm not sure how
much better to weigh in. And there are a lot
of races where I'm not going to weigh in because
I just don't know enough or get enough of a
sense on a race. They give you an example of
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Galveston County District Attorney. I've got dear friends who are
with the district attorney. I've got other folks who are
against the district attorney. I have not been able to
come to a conclusion as to who is better, and
I try to do the best I can. When I
say I would or am, depending on if I'm able
in that district to vote for somebody to have some
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basis for saying that somebody that I really trust says,
here's the reason I'm supporting them. So much of politics,
at the primary level, especially comes down to I go
to Churchy. The woman yesterday who said, I'm supporting this
guy in Waller County. He's the best choice, he's great,
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he should win the election. Okay, who's he running against?
And she said, I have no idea, We just moved in. Well,
I don't know if that's how that works. I don't
know how your guy is better than someone you don't know. However,
is that the worst thing in politics? No, at least
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she knows the guy she's supporting. At least she has
some basis for thinking he's going to do a good job.
In most of the cases, we're never going to meet
these people. And almost everybody in politics i've met I
met from back when I was a candidate or an
office holder and going to events. I intentionally don't go
to events now because I find it hypocritical if I
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go to an event Lincoln Day dinner or whatever, and
the office holders are there. Office holders most of you know,
to survive in politics, you have to have a skill
set that the average person doesn't have and the average
most people hate politicians, and in some cases for good reason.
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But I would say this, if you ran far and
were elected to office, there are people who currently like
you who would not like you, and you would not
have changed.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That is a fact.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
You would still be the same person. Because I'll take
an easy question. Let's say you become the commissioner of
these four blocks, a homeowner association president, whatever it is,
and there is a question as to whether a speed
bump should be put on Smith Street, and the engineer
says the most effective place to put the speed bump
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is one third of the way each direction to slow them.
That'll keep the speed at a certain speed the whole
way down. And you've got the mommies on the street
whose kids are out playing in the yard all American
rock well painting, and you've got people using that as
a cut through because ways shows you can go there
instead of the main street. All right, So we need
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a speed bump because we've had some kids just about
get run over in this street and kids should be
able to play on their own street, and we can't
change ways, and we got cars coming through and they're
not aware that we got kids out there playing, right,
speed bump, no brainer.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So you put the speed bump out.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But as you're doing that, you got the people on
either side of where the speed bump is going to
be in front of their house who don't want it
there because they know, which is the case that you're
going to get an increase in noise. You're going to
get the sound of the compression of the breaks and
the screeching when people realize there's a speed bump there
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and all that goes with that, and they don't want it.
That is reducing their enjoyment of their property. So now
those people come out and you say, well, protecting lives
is more important than avoiding you being annoyed, all right, Okay,
so that's a reasonable thing to come to the conclusion of. Secondly,
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you say, look, I got more mommies on the street
and they're more active than the people complaining because they
don't want a speedbone from their house.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So now what do you do where they like it
or not. You demonize the.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
People who are pestered by the speedboat, so you make
it out because they're mad at you. You justify that
as you know what, I guess because their kids are
grown and moved off. They don't give a damn about kids,
But I do because I have kids and I love kids.
And those people go straight to hell. Right, that's how
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you justify it, because now you're under attack, and what
do we do when're under attack?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Fight or flight?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Most of us fight. So now you push back, and
in their frustration, because they knew you, they supported you
for this position, they're going, hey, uh, can't we fight?
Can't we put an officer on the street? There are alternatives,
because now that thing is going to be there, and
it keeps us up at night and I already have
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trouble sleeping, and it's a real health problem. Is there
something else we can do to slow the traffic down?
Then put these damn things. They're a huge hassle. Nobody
likes them once you put them in, which it turns
out to be true, and on and on and on.
So now you're mad at the people who don't want
it there, okay, And and so if you ask that
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person about the homeowners president or whatever, they'd tea you
what an awful person. They're not an awful person. So
it's not the case that every politician is a horrible person.
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's just that your own separate side of them on
an issue. When the sun goes.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Down on my side of town, that los sun feeling
comes to minor.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Overorld term.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Blue.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
There's a run.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Down bar across the railroad front. I got a table
for two win bass justin Vincent. I said, they are
losing you.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Life.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Spend most every night. He's the lights of a kneeon.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
Now if you one and.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Almost here on the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Watch your bro country stay sitting out of the bee
seventy on. I think the two young lovers are running
round and free horseman eyes and sometimes see you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
In the shadow.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But this smoke beer no telling how many it is
I've sat here.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
Cry me go to Donn and how many don You're
on the Michael ware Show. Go ahead, sir, good morning, Michael.
You said, I'm going back to the opening of the show.
Here you were talking about now Rushmore and that I've
visited that place in twenty fifteen going to Sturgis and
on Park Road two forty four, as you approached.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
The monument from the south and from the west, there's
a bronze plaque on the side of the road and
it's an inscription describing the project, the visionary behind it, Borglum,
and the time it took. But that plaque closes with
a quote from a reporter who asked Borglam why he
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selected that region for that monument, you know, as remote
as it was even more so back then, and his
answer was that he wanted to pick a place so high,
so remote and so difficult to reach that to tear
it down would basically be cost prohibitive. It would be
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more dangerous, more expensive, and not even worth the effort
to tear it down. And that's his reason behind it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
I think it's sold today, as you know, to bring
people to the area for tourism and that. But his
original vision was to put a monument to our founding
fathers in such a difficult place to reach that it
couldn't be tore down. And to see that in twenty fifteen,
it wasn't too long after that that, you know, they
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started tearing statue down and throwing them in rivers and
painting them and I don't know, I just wanted to
share that with you, and I think it's a fascinating
point of that.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's, first of all, I'm glad you held.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Obviously that moved you, and obviously it came to mind
today and you recognized that it was further to the
point of, you know, the tearing down of idols and
monuments and statues, as well as that I had made
a Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Comment.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But it obviously hit you, and it hits me. No,
obviously not as much because I wasn't there with you
when you did it. But in the telling, it's interesting
this concept of, you know, the artist being afraid, being
conscious that there was a real risk that his work
could be destroyed. You know, there was a movement a
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few years ago when the left was bullying and terrorizing
Middle America over tearing down the monuments of our history,
and most Americans, the nice neighbor of the naive neighbor,
don't want to stand up for anything. And they said
of the man who chiseled Mount Rushmore, which in and
of itself, aside from the symbolism and importance to you
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and me, don to every American is a piece of
art of the highest order, particularly the scale of the
damn thing, you know when we see it. I toured
a ranch in Liberty County week or so ago, a
few days ago, and they had every they had a
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lot of exotics out there, and it's just amazing. You
get up close to We were in a vehicle, so
you get up close to an elk and you realize
from a distance that thing didn't look so so big.
But they had lechwe or ex seek, a fallow axis,
white tail. And you don't realize how big some of
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these exotics are until you get right up on them,
and then all of a sudden, Wow, I only ever
see them from a distance. That beast is massive in person, right,
the size of Mount Rushmore is staggering. I mean when
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you actually look, when you look on the page at
the with you know what's interesting? Don you set our
founding fathers? But actually it's not our founding vice the
only founding father well too, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
But then, but then sort of a fifty years in between,
you've got Abraham Lincoln and then you've got Teddy Roosevelt.
And there's an argument to be made that Roosevelt does
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not belong in that conversation, A very strong argument, might
I say, And I know a lot of people whether
it's the Teddy Bear or whatever, but I would argue
that if you're going to keep Teddy Roosevelt in the conversation.
It is not because of his presidency, which in many
ways I disagree with.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It would be because and the sight of Mount rushmore
so I speaks of this.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
It was because of the idea of exploring and enjoying
and conserving the Great American West, and Teddy Roosevelt, to me,
that's his greatest legacy was his passion for the great
outdoors and particularly the lore of the Great American West,
and conservation through efforts that were not just don't hunt,
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don't fish, but quite the opposite, the strategic use of
our lands and our livestock. I do think he deserves
to be placed, but in that sense, he's like a
lot of other people, whether a Jane Goodall or Jacques Cousteau.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Or you know, other zoo keepers. So in any case,
don what do you ride? What's your bike?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Man? It was Arnie Davison Custom Superglide, and look I
got rid of that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I love living, you know.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
On that road trip to Sturgis, I talked to Jesus
more than I ever have in my life. It was fun,
glad I did it twelve days on a bike. I
was ready to get home and get off of it,
and I bought it. I was going to ride with
my dad. He's been riding for forty years, and then
he passed. We didn't have much time to do that.
So anyway, I got an aduro bike, a trail bike
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now that I get on occasionally.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And what'd you give for that superglide.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Sixty five hundred? I bought it used in twenty fourteen,
made the trip twenty fifteen. I think I sold in
twenty seventeen or so.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, my nephew, he married my niece. Kyle Hazelwood's his name.
He's a pH d in geology for occidental but he's
a redneck, redneck. He can fix anything. And he went
to mining school up there, not far from Mount Rushmore.
But he and his dad, and his dad lives in
Virginia where they're from, and his dad rides out and
they got big Harley's and they ride all over the country.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And he's got the map on the wall and all that.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
And he talks about the solitude and the free thinking
and the unencumbered you know, when in your face.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And your free thoughts and all alone. And I mean
it sounds envy. I'm not a bite guy, but it
does sound pretty awesome.
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
It was reported that you continue to meet with him
over several years, and that, in other words, a number
of meetings.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What did you do when you found out about his backline?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, you know, I've said I regretted having those dinners,
and there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
This has been the most looks like at least the
most significant of the releases of Epstein files. I want
to talk about Bill Gates first because emails from Jeffrey
Epstein himself claimed that the Microsoft founder contracted a sexually
transmitted disease even tried to secretly give his then wife
Melinda antibiotics.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
This morning, new questions are swirling around the state of
Bill and Melinda Gates's marriage leading up to last week's
divorce announcements Cratchcrat. Last week, the multi billionaires announced in
a joint statement they were ending their twenty five year
marriage because we no longer believe we can grow together
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as a couple. One source of concern for Melinda, a
global advocate for women and girls, was Bill's dealings with
convicted sex offender Jeffrey epsteinscrat.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Scratch scratch, dass scratched.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
According to documents obtained by the journal, Melinda and her
advisors held a number of calls with divorce lawyers in
October twenty nineteen. The same month, The New York Times
first reported that Bill met with Epstein on numerous occasions
starting in twenty eleven, after Epstein had served time for
soliciting prostitution.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gabs had
additional affairs, and that he tried to get medication to
treat a sexually transmitted infection.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
These news articles with these details.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Sad, just unbelievable sadness. I left my marriage. I had
to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The fact I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation.
So it's just sad. That's the truth, right.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
And and it's kind of like, at least for me,
I've been out of you vall in life.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
As Chacra.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Chads scratitude, Bill Gates is turning his focus from software
to hardware. The Microsoft founder is giving a one hundred
thousand dollars grant to whomever can build a better condom.
It's part of his Grand Challenges initiative.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The goal is to make a.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Condom that feels good enough for men around the world
to want to wear it, and to therefore, very importantly
to prevent disease. And un wanting to get.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Lecturing the country on what we should do.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
During COVID, how he would like to see government lock
us down and mask us forcefully and jab us forcefully.
And he's off giving his wife an STD from the
little underage girls. He's bonking with Jeffrey Epstein illegally. Beware
the false prophets. Beware I it's talk about James tall
(03:55):
Rico yesterday Beto with the Bible. Somebody brilliantly called him.
I don't know who said that, but I can't take
it as my own. I wish I could. It was
very clever. A guy who walks around claiming that his
support of abortion is because he believed the virgin Mary
was given the choice as to whether or not to
have a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And he takes that to.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Me and she wasn't sure whether she'd go to the
abortion clinic or have the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That's his, that's his logic.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, And somewhere there's probably a suburban mom who's never
read the Bible who said, you know, he might be right.
I had never thought about it, you know. I try
to keep an open mind on these things. That's the
most dangerous voter, the naive neighbor. She's real nice. She
doesn't believe anybody could do any ill. She's shocked to
know that Bill Gates is a demon. Tacka Timothy four
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three through four says for the time is coming when
people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears,
they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
and will turn away from listening to the truth and
wander off into myths. Do you think we might have
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witnessed the era of the televangelist, who is an example
of those who could not endure sound teaching, but having
itchy ears, have accumulated for themselves teachers to suit their
own passions. Why should I hear about the Word of
God and sacrifice and struggle and discipline and conviction, difficulty
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and strife when I can go over there where they
got a coffee shop in the church, and the pastor
will tell me that I'm meant to be rich, wealthy
that if I just pray a little harder and show
up every Sunday, all things will be given to me.
I really like this new prayer of job as we're
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doing at church. Yeah, it's an eight part series. I
have gives some blessings coming my way, I just didn't
know to claim them if I just keep going to church. Wow, okay,
sounds to me like a repackaged fraud scam.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
In the in the mask of a church. But you
do you.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
The verse before that first Timothy, sorry, first the verse
in the book before that one Timothy four one through
two says, Now the spirit expressly says that in later
times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves
to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity
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of liars whose consciences are seared. And then tewod Timothy
four to three through four says, for the time is
coming when people will not endure sound teaching.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Why will they not? Are you playing Star Wars? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Why will they not endure sound teaching? For the same
reason that children don't want to be disciplined, For the
same reason that people don't want limitations put on.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Their personal behaviors. It's easier to have a free for all.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
For the time is coming when people will not endure
sound teaching, but having itchy ears, they will accumulate for
themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn
away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Isn't it amazing how.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
You see that happening before your very eyes, Someone who
is uncertain about their own lives and their own decisions,
and so they go seeking someone of the cloth. If
I can find me somebody that'll tell me this, and
you can whatever you want to be told, then I'll
feel good about these decisions that I was already going
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to make.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
All right, I'll tell you I'm voting for coming up
just a moment.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Michael Berry Show, When You puts the Cat Nose.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Lots new pussy Cat. We added a new show sponsor.
A couple of months ago.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We were looking for a concierge doctor to add because
I get asked that question a lot, and we landed
on a doctor named John Cottingham. He's in Webster, But really,
if you have a if you have a conciers doctor,
really doesn't matter where they are, because you don't need
to go into the doctor all day.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Every day.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I talked to one or another doctor three or four
times a week. Actually, if it's completely social, four or
five times a week. Don't ever go to the doctor's office.
I don't want to go to the doctor's office. I
want to go part You know, if you go back
to maned state of nature, there was a time where
we lived in a tent and we didn't have mechanized
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transportation or communication or entertainment or all of this. And
eventually there was one person in the village who would
do some studying and learn the basics of healing powers.
And the women probably knew more than he did, but
eventually that'd send him off and he would learn kind
of the best practices of the era and come back
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and you know, these are the best foods for healing
and these sorts of things. And somewhere along the way
we went from the guy who was supposed to be
the healer to an entire construct that's a hassle. And
it became that that was what medicine was. You would
call to get an appointment, because the lord knows the
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doctor is so important we've got. It has to be
months from now that you can go see the doctor.
That's how important the doctor is. Well, what if I
got something that I'm worried about?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Here?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
What am I supposed to do for months on end?
And I find out that people just wait, Okay, it's
it's February fourth. You can't see me till mid June.
All right, this isn't cosmetic, this is real. It's important.
I need to know right now. What do I have
is most people are like me. They just want to
know that what they have is not going to kill them,
because you don't want to be just about to die
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and go Yes, Michael Berry died because he had a
little bitty pin prick cut and he let it get
gangrenous and now he has died and he feels so
stupid out at Just tell me I'm not going to die,
and that's fine. But for me, my relationship with my
doctors is a text message. It might be a picture, Hey,
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this is what's happened here. It might be how I'm feeling.
It's often an article I've read much to their sugar,
and I don't encourage you to do this, but hey,
you know they're saying that you know you can increase
particular mineral in your diet and makes a difference. Hey,
I'm reading that the virtues of getting direct sunlight in
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the increased vitamin D exposure outweigh the old dermatologist's fear
of sunlight and skin cancer.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And sometimes they haven't read on it lately, and they
will go read and we'll engage in a conversation as
a hobbyist in this subject.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But in any case, I added a.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Concierge doctor, which is kind of that type of relationship
that you pay for you pay. I forget what his
is up front. I think it's twenty five hundred. Some
of them charge more than that. I don't think any
of them charge less than that. But I know one
that charges seventy five hundred. And if you say to yourself, oh,
I don't pay that, not pay twenty five hundred urs
some munch, then you're not a You know, we have
a broad audience. Some people make twelve dollars an hour.
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Some people are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So
when I talk about things, everything is not suitable for everybody.
And it's okay if you can't afford something. That doesn't
mean I shouldn't talk about it, or I've lost a
common touch, or I forgot where I can't. No, no, no,
don't do that. Don't do that. That is beneath you,
and that won't be tolerated by me. There is kind
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of a sweet spot of arrange that people make. So
whether you can call up twenty five hundred up front
to have that kind of relationship with a doctor, I
guess you have to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
But I will say this, and nobody this talks about
the tough teachings.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I'm not your preacher here, but I will tell you this,
and I will say this again. This is important and
this should convict a few of you. People will say
to me, oh, I don't have let's take this in.
I don't have twenty five hund dollars to pay doctor. Okay,
I understand, Yeah, I mean you got all this rich presents. Okay,
all right, I'm just looking at the other expenses that
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you laid out that you really didn't that were completely
by choice.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So it's not that you don't have twenty five hundred dollars.
For many people, this is the case.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's that you don't value that in life to put
twenty five hundred dollars on it. When people tell me
they don't want to eat it this way, they can't
afford to eat it this or that restaurant, and then
I go, well, you do do this. Yeah, So what
you mean is you don't value it that much, And
that's okay. There are a lot of things I don't
do because I don't value something as part of my
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overall mix of expenses to that level.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So if it cost me nothing, I do that. If
it cost me this amount, I'd never do it. If
it's somewhere along the sliding scale, I would do it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So for many people, twenty five hundred dollars you're upfront.
And this is true of a lot of stuff I
talk about. For many people that's nothing. They go, yeah,
I drop that at dinner with expensive wine, and I
do know people that do that.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And then there are other people that go, Okay, that pinches,
but I'll do.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
It, and the other people who say, look, I literally
don't have a penny left over at the end of
the month. Okay, that's fine, but it's important that we
understand a difference between I can't afford something and I
don't value it enough to make other sacrifices in my life.
I was shocked when Petru started as my trainer, and
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you pay.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Quarterly and up front. I wasn't sure.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I wanted to pay quarterly, but it wasn't sure I
want to pay for training like that. And my wife said,
how about if you're fifty to fifty? I push you
over the edge. I think you'll feel better if you train.
I said, huh, you care enough to give me that
advice to kind of needle me when I didn't want to. Yeah,
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I do. I think it's that important to you. Well,
now I don't question it. It was brilliant. It was
the best advice. My wife doesn't nag, she doesn't give
advice to every turn, but when she takes the time
to give me advice, I know that she knows that
she's risking that. I'm going to tell her. I don't
want to be a hand packed husband whose wife tells
them what to do. How dare you so for her
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to risk getting, you know, a SNA like that. She
has to believe it's important. There again, are you going
to pay good money for somebody to come to your
house and train you. And when I tell friends of mine,
they say, hey, I'm gonna train with Petro.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
And I say, well, here's here's what I believed the
cost to be, and here's what. And if someone says
I can't afford it, and they drove up in one
hundred and thirty thousand dollars car, I said, no, no, no, no,
I choose not to afford it. There's a lot of
things we can afford. We have to be honest with
what we value. And that's okay. We each have our
own value, but let's not say we can't afford.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
It till t me a second hand.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Got seven round.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The place, three little.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Exact in the Sarsky.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He's the one to God, He's the one, the big.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
He's the one to go.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Holiday cat does do Sunday but last three times sad.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
He's the one to go. He's the one. He's the one.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
He's gonna be away.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
So I'm gonna try to get the complete endorsement list
out tomorrow. I understand people want me to release it now,
but just a word of caution, let's be reasonable here.
Voting starts on the seventeenth. I understand people need some
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sense of certainty in their lives. If I rush in
print a list today versus tomorrow versus next week. But
I am trying to get it out, how is that
going to change anything. You're not going to vote until
the seventeenth at the earliest. I guess you could be
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absentee voting. I mean, I love that people are fired
up to vote, but there are there My challenge so
that you understand, it's not a question of being lazy.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
My challenge is.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
There are races where I sense that one candidate might
be better than the other, but I'm not sure how
much better to weigh in. And there are a lot
of races where I'm not going to weigh in because
I just don't know enough or get enough of a
sense on a race. They give you an example of
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Galveston County District Attorney. I've got dear friends who are
with the district attorney. I've got other folks who are
against the district attorney. I have not been able to
come to a conclusion as to who is better, and
I try to do the best I can. When I
say I would or am, depending on if I'm able
in that district to vote for somebody to have some
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basis for saying that somebody that I really trust says,
here's the reason I'm supporting them. So much of politics,
at the primary level, especially comes down to I go
to Churchy. The woman yesterday who said, I'm supporting this
guy in Waller County. He's the best choice, he's great,
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he should win the election. Okay, who's he running against?
And she said, I have no idea, We just moved in. Well,
I don't know if that's how that works. I don't
know how your guy is better than someone you don't know. However,
is that the worst thing in politics? No, at least
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she knows the guy she's supporting. At least she has
some basis for thinking he's going to do a good job.
In most of the cases, we're never going to meet
these people. And almost everybody in politics i've met I
met from back when I was a candidate or an
office holder and going to events. I intentionally don't go
to events now because I find it hypocritical if I
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go to an event Lincoln Day dinner or whatever, and
the office holders are there. Office holders most of you know,
to survive in politics, you have to have a skill
set that the average person doesn't have and the average
most people hate politicians, and in some cases for good reason.
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But I would say this, if you ran far and
were elected to office, there are people who currently like
you who would not like you, and you would not
have changed.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That is a fact.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
You would still be the same person. Because I'll take
an easy question. Let's say you become the commissioner of
these four blocks, a homeowner association president, whatever it is,
and there is a question as to whether a speed
bump should be put on Smith Street, and the engineer
says the most effective place to put the speed bump
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is one third of the way each direction to slow them.
That'll keep the speed at a certain speed the whole
way down. And you've got the mommies on the street
whose kids are out playing in the yard all American
rock well painting, and you've got people using that as
a cut through because ways shows you can go there
instead of the main street. All right, So we need
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a speed bump because we've had some kids just about
get run over in this street and kids should be
able to play on their own street, and we can't
change ways, and we got cars coming through and they're
not aware that we got kids out there playing, right,
speed bump, no brainer.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So you put the speed bump out.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But as you're doing that, you got the people on
either side of where the speed bump is going to
be in front of their house who don't want it
there because they know, which is the case that you're
going to get an increase in noise. You're going to
get the sound of the compression of the breaks and
the screeching when people realize there's a speed bump there
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and all that goes with that, and they don't want it.
That is reducing their enjoyment of their property. So now
those people come out and you say, well, protecting lives
is more important than avoiding you being annoyed, all right, Okay,
so that's a reasonable thing to come to the conclusion of. Secondly,
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you say, look, I got more mommies on the street
and they're more active than the people complaining because they
don't want a speedbone from their house.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So now what do you do where they like it
or not. You demonize the.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
People who are pestered by the speedboat, so you make
it out because they're mad at you. You justify that
as you know what, I guess because their kids are
grown and moved off. They don't give a damn about kids,
But I do because I have kids and I love kids.
And those people go straight to hell. Right, that's how
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you justify it, because now you're under attack, and what
do we do when're under attack?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Fight or flight?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Most of us fight. So now you push back, and
in their frustration, because they knew you, they supported you
for this position, they're going, hey, uh, can't we fight?
Can't we put an officer on the street? There are alternatives,
because now that thing is going to be there, and
it keeps us up at night and I already have
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trouble sleeping, and it's a real health problem. Is there
something else we can do to slow the traffic down?
Then put these damn things. They're a huge hassle. Nobody
likes them once you put them in, which it turns
out to be true, and on and on and on.
So now you're mad at the people who don't want
it there, okay, And and so if you ask that
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person about the homeowners president or whatever, they'd tea you
what an awful person. They're not an awful person. So
it's not the case that every politician is a horrible person.
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's just that your own separate side of them on
an issue. When the sun goes.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Down on my side of town, that los sun feeling
comes to minor.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Overorld term.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Blue.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
There's a run.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Down bar across the railroad front. I got a table
for two win bass justin Vincent. I said, they are
losing you.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Life.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Spend most every night. He's the lights of a kneeon.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
Now if you one and.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Almost here on the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Watch your bro country stay sitting out of the bee
seventy on. I think the two young lovers are running
round and free horseman eyes and sometimes see you.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
In the shadow.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But this smoke beer no telling how many it is
I've sat here.
Speaker 9 (25:47):
Cry me go to Donn and how many don You're
on the Michael ware Show. Go ahead, sir, good morning, Michael.
You said, I'm going back to the opening of the show.
Here you were talking about now Rushmore and that I've
visited that place in twenty fifteen going to Sturgis and
on Park Road two forty four, as you approached.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
The monument from the south and from the west, there's
a bronze plaque on the side of the road and
it's an inscription describing the project, the visionary behind it, Borglum,
and the time it took. But that plaque closes with
a quote from a reporter who asked Borglam why he
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selected that region for that monument, you know, as remote
as it was even more so back then, and his
answer was that he wanted to pick a place so high,
so remote and so difficult to reach that to tear
it down would basically be cost prohibitive. It would be
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more dangerous, more expensive, and not even worth the effort
to tear it down. And that's his reason behind it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
I think it's sold today, as you know, to bring
people to the area for tourism and that. But his
original vision was to put a monument to our founding
fathers in such a difficult place to reach that it
couldn't be tore down. And to see that in twenty fifteen,
it wasn't too long after that that, you know, they
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started tearing statue down and throwing them in rivers and
painting them and I don't know, I just wanted to
share that with you, and I think it's a fascinating
point of that.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's, first of all, I'm glad you held.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Obviously that moved you, and obviously it came to mind
today and you recognized that it was further to the
point of, you know, the tearing down of idols and
monuments and statues, as well as that I had made
a Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Comment.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But it obviously hit you, and it hits me. No,
obviously not as much because I wasn't there with you
when you did it. But in the telling, it's interesting
this concept of, you know, the artist being afraid, being
conscious that there was a real risk that his work
could be destroyed. You know, there was a movement a
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few years ago when the left was bullying and terrorizing
Middle America over tearing down the monuments of our history,
and most Americans, the nice neighbor of the naive neighbor,
don't want to stand up for anything. And they said
of the man who chiseled Mount Rushmore, which in and
of itself, aside from the symbolism and importance to you
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and me, don to every American is a piece of
art of the highest order, particularly the scale of the
damn thing, you know when we see it. I toured
a ranch in Liberty County week or so ago, a
few days ago, and they had every they had a
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lot of exotics out there, and it's just amazing. You
get up close to We were in a vehicle, so
you get up close to an elk and you realize
from a distance that thing didn't look so so big.
But they had lechwe or ex seek, a fallow axis,
white tail. And you don't realize how big some of
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these exotics are until you get right up on them,
and then all of a sudden, Wow, I only ever
see them from a distance. That beast is massive in person, right,
the size of Mount Rushmore is staggering. I mean when
(29:43):
you actually look, when you look on the page at
the with you know what's interesting? Don you set our
founding fathers? But actually it's not our founding vice the
only founding father well too, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
But then, but then sort of a fifty years in between,
you've got Abraham Lincoln and then you've got Teddy Roosevelt.
And there's an argument to be made that Roosevelt does
(30:04):
not belong in that conversation, A very strong argument, might
I say, And I know a lot of people whether
it's the Teddy Bear or whatever, but I would argue
that if you're going to keep Teddy Roosevelt in the conversation.
It is not because of his presidency, which in many
ways I disagree with.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It would be because and the sight of Mount rushmore
so I speaks of this.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
It was because of the idea of exploring and enjoying
and conserving the Great American West, and Teddy Roosevelt, to me,
that's his greatest legacy was his passion for the great
outdoors and particularly the lore of the Great American West,
and conservation through efforts that were not just don't hunt,
(30:50):
don't fish, but quite the opposite, the strategic use of
our lands and our livestock. I do think he deserves
to be placed, but in that sense, he's like a
lot of other people, whether a Jane Goodall or Jacques Cousteau.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Or you know, other zoo keepers. So in any case,
don what do you ride? What's your bike?
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Man? It was Arnie Davison Custom Superglide, and look I
got rid of that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I love living, you know.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
On that road trip to Sturgis, I talked to Jesus
more than I ever have in my life. It was fun,
glad I did it twelve days on a bike. I
was ready to get home and get off of it,
and I bought it. I was going to ride with
my dad. He's been riding for forty years, and then
he passed. We didn't have much time to do that.
So anyway, I got an aduro bike, a trail bike
(31:41):
now that I get on occasionally.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And what'd you give for that superglide.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Sixty five hundred? I bought it used in twenty fourteen,
made the trip twenty fifteen. I think I sold in
twenty seventeen or so.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, my nephew, he married my niece. Kyle Hazelwood's his name.
He's a pH d in geology for occidental but he's
a redneck, redneck. He can fix anything. And he went
to mining school up there, not far from Mount Rushmore.
But he and his dad, and his dad lives in
Virginia where they're from, and his dad rides out and
they got big Harley's and they ride all over the country.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And he's got the map on the wall and all that.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
And he talks about the solitude and the free thinking
and the unencumbered you know, when in your face.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And your free thoughts and all alone. And I mean
it sounds envy. I'm not a bite guy, but it
does sound pretty awesome.
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