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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So Michael darry Show is on the air. That arkes
a couple of months old. And if you want to
really see.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Something that said, take a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
A long two thief.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Part of why I admire and support Joe Biden is
that his tone has been geared towards trying to bring
us together.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
The Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by
Donald Trump and the Maggie Republicans, and that is a
threat to this country.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Others are directly pointing the finger at President Biden, with
of course no evidence that he incited this.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We told ourselves at American democracy is guaranteed, but it's not.
We have to defend it, protect it, stand up for it,
each and every one of us. We're all called by
duty and conscience to confront extreamists will put their own
pursuit of power above all else. I'd like to take
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it behind the gym if.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I were in high school. We're in high school.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I take you behind the gym and beat the hell
out of them.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
A lot of people have tried to draw similarities between
Mussolini and Hitler and the use of the terminology like
Vermin and the drive that those men had towards autocracy
and dictatorship. All he cares about is selfish self promotion.
That's the only philosophy he has, which makes it even
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more dangerous.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
A vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election
that you ever get to vote in. And again, I
don't say that lightly, and I think is heartbreaking that
that's where we are. But people have to recognize that
the vote for Donald Trump is a vote against the Constitution.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
And then the biggest threat that officials are telling me
tonight is in the form of retaliatory violencing.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
I just sit back on the sidelines and say, oh, well,
don't worry, this will all work itself out.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
They're still going to have to go out and put
a bullet in Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
And it is frankly unpatriotic at this moment to be
soaking the flames when we know that we are setting
on a cauldron attentions.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The permission structure for violence. You've got polls about political violence.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Democrats don't think is a good idea, only.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
A public bless.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
When was the last time an actor assassinators of president?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the winehouse.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
You have relieved the world when and you will pay
a pride.
Speaker 11 (03:39):
This is just a warning to you trumpets, be careful,
walk lightly, and for those of you who are soldiers,
make them pay.
Speaker 10 (03:50):
I will go and take Trump out to night.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Will kind of you want it. I'd be ready to
throw a punch. We had to be able to throw
a punch for.
Speaker 12 (04:05):
Showing you this video on repeat, because these events just happened.
But we want to make clear that this is something
we are reporting to you as a historic event as
it unfolds. But we are very mindful that this kind
of event can inspire violence, it can inspire retaliation, and
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we want no part.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Of that, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So I had commented on the data point that Catholic
baptisms in nineteen sixty five, we're in the millions, and
through the years they have dropped precipitously and yet confirmations.
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So we go from sixty five to ninety and then
from ninety to twenty twenty five. Now the drop might
have occurred from sixty five to ninety, that's a twenty
five year period.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But what I was curious about because this speaks to
faith institutions. Generally, we have seen self defined, self described
answering questions to pollsters basically, and church role memberships. We
have seen traditional organized Christian churches have shrunk in membership,
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and so that this sort of parallels that. But what
cuts against that is Catholic confirmations are up versus nineteen ninety.
So Dell Busk, our friend and show sponsor, says, Catholic
confirmations are completed by your group. However by church that year.
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Group can be accelerated by a year or slowed down
by year. So in any year they may double up
on the number of confirmations because the forward confirmation group
may be pulled into an earlier year. But that depends
upon the diocese and the local churches. And the overall
numbers are so small that if eighty nine moved up
to ninety and twenty twenty six was brought back in
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twenty twenty five, that could skew the.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Numbers into the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Maybe, But I don't get the sense that that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's not my read.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
My read is there is an overall rising of the tides.
Our MDVIP concierge doctor says the increased. John Cottingham says
the increased confirmations may be due to adults coming back
to the Catholic Church through RCIA for confirmation.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think this is it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A number of you emailed in on our email at
Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com or through the website
Michael Berryshow dot com. RCIA is the right of Christian
initiation for adults, and that is the come into the
Catholic Church from outside the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I think that is far more likely the reasoning
for it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In fact, that's what That was the thing that more
folks emailed in about than anything else.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I'll just grab a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Corey says, I think the reason for the increasing confirmation
is because of people like me. I was christened as
a baby in the Catholic Church, made my first communion,
but never made my confirmation. Oh the three steps, yeah,
were baptism and they went with sixty communion, first communion
they went with the nineteen ninety numbers and then first
communion twenty twenty five and confirmation. First communions are down,
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but confirmation is up. I don't actually understand the whole process.
I have a basic understanding. He says, when I was
forty two, I decided I needed to make my confirmation.
So I went to the Sacramento Prep class and a
number of people said they were confirmed when they married
into the Catholic Church. And I think a lot of
adults are coming into the Catholic Church that hadn't ever
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been there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think that accounts for some of it too.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It is two years ago today that President Trump was
shot in the head, fortunately survived.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is Stacy Trumble's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Birthday, the other half, the better half of Matt and Stacy,
who we love and adore, some of our favorite members
from the RCC. Was somebody else's birthday? Trying to remember
who it is, somebody I know, I can't think of it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Somebody I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
July thirteenth is somebody's birthday, and I cannot, for the
life of me remember.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But anyway, Muriel, and you're old of Michael Berry, show, go.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Ahead, Yes, good morning, Michael. You were asking about why
confirmation was up. Well, most Catholics have received their baptism
and communion, and for so many years it's been so
difficult to get married in the church because you have
to go through that annulmen process. Well, Pope Francis changed
all that. He's either made it easier someone could tell
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you a little better, or he's made them obsolete. So
all of the people who were getting married outside the
Catholic Church are now coming back because I myself had
to go through an annulmen and it's a you know,
a very long process and it can be denied by
the tribunal here in our archdiocese. So confirmation even in
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my church at Saint Mary's in Leak City was up
from like thirty to seventy two people, which is quite
a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh yeah, more than double two and a half? Was
your let me ask you, Mary, you was your divorce?
Was your marriage an old or did they agree?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yes, it wasn't old. But it took a two year process,
and you had to get people to write letters and
say why they thought that the marriage. You know, if
you didn't think it was going to be forever faithful
and fruitful, then that's part of a reason why a marriage.
You know, if you go in with if you're too young.
Sometimes people shouldn't get married until they're untill they're really
ready for that full commitment. And it just seems you know,
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I'm in my sixties. It seems like in our generation,
it's like, you know, every other months, soone was getting
married in your twenties, you know, just mine.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, so I heard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, this is a subject that comes up over
the years, especially with famous people. It's always fascinating and
right over the years. Let's say it was rock Huts
and I don't know famous people who would get married
in the Catholic Church, say movie stars in the sixties
or something, and he would be gay, and her argument
for her, her petition for annulment would be on a
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lack of consummation and what that was, Hint, hint, he's gay.
And so apparently that the man would always say no, no, no, no,
I'll give you more money. Our basis for annulment has
to be irreconcilable differences. Nobody can believe that I didn't
have sex with this, you know, with this starlet, and
so that she'd kind of have that leverage over him.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
Well, there's there's many reasons for an annulment. And actually
my husband did the annulments. He did a lot of
work with that, and you know, there's a lot of
different grievances for it, but basically Pope Francis has made
it easier. So there's so many people going now for
their third sacrament. They receive the two the baptism and
their communion, and now they're coming and going through the
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confirmation because now they know they can get married in
the Catholic Church, and there's so much joy about that.
To make it, you know, you shouldn't have to. You know,
God loves you, and he forgives you, and he wants
you to be part of his church family. So I
think it's beautiful what's happening. And my last thought is
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that my I do want to give my love and
prayers to the Grand Family. I know we're all feeling
that today.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, did you get remarried Mary Ellen?
Speaker 9 (12:32):
I did? I did? And did you do it any Yes?
What happened is is we first had my husband did
not He was not a Catholic, he was raised, he
had religion, but he would ask me why are you
He finally came to my mask with me and he's like,
why are you getting up and down? I'm Michael, I
don't know. I've been doing it my whole life. So
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he started coming to church with me. Mark and he learned.
He went through the RCIA, and I actually learned my
whole religion, and he became a stronger Catholic than I.
And actually he worked for the archdiocese under Donardo doing
annulments for the Catholic Church. But we first got married.
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We got married in Vegas as first, and then two
years later we got married by Father Cargo at Saint
Mary's Church after we went through the whole annulment process.
That took us two years for both of us to
get our marriage in ULLs. And I could see why
a lot of people are frustrated because you're not guaranteed
that you're going to get your the annulment, and then
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here you want to get married in your church and
you're not allowed. So well, just so you know, very joyful.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't practice law any longer, but I have two
law degrees and I do stay up on the law.
It's important to me, just so you know, for the
purposes of your estate planning your marriage to Mark in Vegas.
When y'all rushed there and did that wedding, that does
not legally counts, not unless it was an Elvis impersonator
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who was okay, well, okay, then it's it's a good marriage.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
It has been blessed by the Catholic Church. We did
get married again in the church. Yes, so we have
two marriages too, wedding days.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, you know, it's funny people think that it's an
attack on them. I have so many issues with, you know,
the power given to the church and my historical understanding
of the church. But that doesn't mean that I lack
respect or love for people for whom that is important.
I cannot tell you how many emails I am sitting
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here staring at on my screen of people who left
the church. In fact, people that I didn't know, friends
of mine, multiple friends of mine, who I had no
idea their child couldn't be baptized in the church because
they weren't married yet. And these are people who are
still married to this day, who I would hold up
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as as happy a marriage as and family as you
could get.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I mean, these would be in my top twenty fives.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And then they couldn't be god parents because the husband
was on his second marriage. And so you know, I
think it's thank you for the call, Maryland. I think
it's a question of it's a great debate in that
the church and I'll take the Catholic Church, which calls
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itself the One True Church, which I disagree with, but
I must admit it's a very trump thing. I like
the bombastic, braggadocious, overly confident I've always had. That's part
of why I jab with Catholics is I love the
Catholic Church's egoism.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It appeals to me.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But I think that you know, as a church, you
do want to implement rules, right as a society, you
want to say, hey, guys, don't do this, or you'll
be a bad person, and that keeps a lot of
people from doing it. Then when the person does do it,
you know, we talk about this with criminal justice, but
over this issue of marriage.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think they lost a lot of people, and it
sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Pope Francis is bringing a lot of those people back,
which is good for the church. I saw a chart
on how people voted by a denominational affiliation, and you
could look at the different groups as to who was
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more likely to vote Republican or Democrat. But what I
noticed as a trend was that in every group, even
if fewer than fifty percent of the membership of that group,
according to these polls, voted for Republicans. The number who
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voted for Republicans had gone up dramatically in every group
since two thousand and eight. We had John McCain. In
two thousand and eight, of course, we had Trump three
point zero in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'll give you an example for the United Methodists.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They had gone from fifty five percent Republican voting Republican
to in two thousand and eight. Just know that I'm
going from two thousand and eight, which was John McCain.
Remember we had McCain in O eight Romney and twelve
Trump and sixteen Trump and twenty Trump and twenty four.
So two thousand and eight McCain against Obama, fifty five
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percent of United Methodists voted Republican. In twenty twenty four,
that was sixty one percent for a Presbyterian Church USA.
And obviously I'm aware that the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians
and Baptists have had a split away. So you have
a group calling themselves Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Baptist, the American Baptists
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who are not the people you're going to meet in Houston,
who call themselves members of that religion.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Because those groups are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The liberal breakoff, and the two things that are most
common in the liberal breakoff is women pastors and a
very pro gay approach. So that's a lot of times
that those are the two kind of hot button issues
that caused them to either split off and make their
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own group but hold on to the denominational tag, and
some people would think they're still that denomination or what
caused the stalwarts of that denomination to break off and
create their own group. So when you hear Presbyterian Episcopal Baptists,
you're not necessarily hearing from the people who would be
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the more conservative portion of that religion, or who might
hold to the more traditional positions of that faith, of
that denomination of Presbyterians forty eight Presbyterian Church USA forty
eight percent Republican in eight fifty three percent Republican in
twenty twenty four. It says Episcopal Church, I don't know
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which part of the Episcopal Church this is thirty five
percent Republican in eight thirty six percent in twenty twenty four.
Disciples of Christ in two thousand and eight, forty six
percent in twenty twenty four, fifty three percent Evangelical Lutheran
Church of America fifty percent in eight fifty two percent
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in twenty twenty four, American Baptists that's not Southern Baptists
thirty four percent in eight fifty percent in twenty twenty four,
and United Church of Christ thirty four percent in eight
and thirty nine percent in twenty twenty four. If you
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were to give the Democrats credit, and this really preceded
the Democrat Party, if you were to look at the
person the group of people intent on destroying this country,
you would look at the success they have had, and
they have had incredible success. You would look at their
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inroads in public education, where they have almost complete hegemony.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
At the university level. They just absolutely dominate the university level.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Why is that important because the universities are where the
funding comes in for the studies. So if you want
to do studies that then the average person, even a
plant worker, a construction worker, a small business owner that
never went to college, will repeat something they hear in
the news. You know, a new study says that if
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you don't want your kid transitioning, then you hitler. That's
a new study said that. I can't believe that people
will A study says, well, those studies are coming out
of the universities. So the Democrats in Congress are funding
the studies at the university, so then they have something
to hand to the media. This is just like what
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the Hillary Clinton campaign did with Clinton with Fusion GPS,
where you do all the research, you hand it to
an objective source who hands it to the media, and
then they report on it. Trump is owned by the Russians.
Well no, as it turns out, that was all a lie,
but it's too late by that time. If you look
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at where the left has made the most massive inroads
in changing our culture, university education, public education K through twelve,
where they've not been quite as successful, but in the
urban school districts they certainly have. You could look at
the institutional church. There is no doubt in my mind,
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after the university, this is the place where they have
had the greatest influence, and in fact even greater than
with movies and television. And I'll tell you why. When
people say, oh, well, that's odd, why are you having
Moses played by a black, lesbian, disabled a man who
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was born as a woman in the new movie about Moses, Well,
most people see that as weird and historically inaccurate, and
not in any way empowering blacks or accomplishing anything of
what anybody thought anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
But when you can make an inroad into the.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Church, you are basically seeding a traitor into the ranks
of the opposition army to discontent, you are weakening his
greatest force. So whereas the church was a wall against
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liberalism in all of its nonsense, to their credit, the
Cloward Piven folks, the Sorrows folks, and Sorrows gets all
the credit. There are a lot of these people funding
these evil candidates. John Arnold in Houston, great example. You
look at who's pouring money into Tall Rico says, the
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same people that were pouring money into Beto, says, same
people who were pouring money into Kamala Harris. It's the
same group of people. And what they really are is
people who seek to destabilize America's institutions. They have made
such inroads into the military. I'm told I'm not a veteran, obviously,
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but I have had people tell me that even within
the ranks of the Marines, the things that have been
pushed on them. And you've seen videos coming out of
of of Navy sailors and marines and our army soldiers transitioning,
making videos pushing it out. I mean, the left never sleeps,
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and they don't try to just embolden their non government
organizations and their various charities.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They're coming after our institutions.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I get excited about young people starting in a new career.
You get so much bad news out there. But a
friend of mine I went to school with and have
remained friends with all these years, been warning. He told
me very proud of his sons. And he told me
a few months ago he said, my son is applying
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to be a ship pilot with Kirby Marine. I said, oh,
you're kidding, I said, friend of mine is the president
and coo over there, Christian O'Neil good Kunas from New Orleans.
His dad had a law firm there. He practiced at
his dad's law firm. But he really really wanted to
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get into running maritime operations. And he's a real smart guy,
real savvy, real strategic, real social. He's kind of got
the skills for that industry to rise to the top. Right,
and Kirby Marine, to my knowledge, is as big and
powerful as it gets.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So anyway, we got the news a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That Kenneth Warnick, who's name for his grandfather, Kenneth Wernick,
who was one of my teachers growing up in my
school drive school bus driver because the Wearntings, like Robert Reese,
they had about twenty five kids, so the mom and
dad would take every extra job.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
He was this he was a Shakespearean scholar. This was
pre internet.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I can remember being in second grade and Ben was
in my class. But Ben didn't want to do it,
and they we had to ask mister Wernick a question
about a Shakespeare quote. Because before you had the Internet,
knowledge was power. So would you would ask a knowledgeable
person because they would know such a thing. Everybody didn't
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know everything then because you couldn't just google it. Of course,
the problem with Google is context and understanding a lot
of things like that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But if you wanted to know how many home runs Hank.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Aaron broke the record with and in what year and
who made the call and in what stadium, there was
a sports fan out there, you know, Vin's Gully type
person who would tell you that detail. And it was
really really impressive. But anyway, I called Christian to tell him,
we're really excited about Kenneth starting to work at Kirby
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Marine and his career as a ship pilot, and he
said that if I could have your prayers for someone
told me the story and I took my notes and
I said, would you mind if I asked a lot
of people to pray for him? And he said, I
would be delighted for you to do that. And it's
a badass, he says. It's a badass marine named Jim Gidrey.
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He grew up on COWBAYU that's in Bridge City. His
dad ran a toboat company out of their house. He's
my right hand man. He's going in for surgery this
Wednesday to install a port for dialysis, and he's on
the donor list for a kidney. He's the toughest dude
I know, a marine's marine. But obviously we're all worried
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because we want the best for him. And all I
ask you to do is pray for a quick recovery
for him. He's one of the best human beings I've
ever met in my lifetime journey in a great man
of faith. So if those of you who are praying folks,
could hit your knees tonight and add one more person
to it, and I know you got a long list.
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That is the That is Jim Gidrey, the executive vice
president of Vessel Operations United States Marine, who grew up
on Kelbayou and Britsy. That makes seem good people already
Dad ran a toboat company out of the house. How
about that? And now he's gone into the maritime industry himself.
Do you have Mike Shine on Jim Okay? I read
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an article in Chad's prepp this morning about the economic
boom from the World Cup for Houston restaurants just didn't happen.
And Mike Shine is the executive director of the Texas
Restaurant Association's Greater Houston chapter and basically a guy that
is very, very well respected within the restaurant industry. I
don't know if I was introduced to him by Russell
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Lebarro or Tilman Fertita or Chris Pappus or what was
the name of my neighbor who was such a hoot
I think used to be a business partner of his
back in the day, Crypto, Frank Crypto.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think that's probably the first.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Maybe the first person who mentioned his name to me.
But anyway, Mike welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Thank you, Mark. How are you today? Were you and
Corpto business partners?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
We were not.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I bought I bought Frank's Chop House from f Corpedo
and so I turned it. I converted to front my
son and I turned it to Franks Samericana shortly after that.
So here we're friends. Long time from borders. When I
was the president of the Houston Chapter, that kind of fame.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So how are you today?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I'm are you still the executive director of the of
the association?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I am. I stepped off the board. I've been a
twenty five year board member and the president of the
Houston Chapter multiple times on the state board as well.
And the tra basically conned me when I when I
closed Franks aar Khana in the summer of twenty three
that they called and said, would you be willing to
come in as an executive director through the entire Southeast region.
So I thought it was a great opportunity to to
continue to give back. I'm not going to com buy
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any more restaurants since twenty twenty and so I've done
that as great. I've spent a little over a year
now and so I have five community sub cities boards
of directors that kind of under my purview and we're
responsible to support them and help them and kind of
guide them all the way from Gallas and all the
way to Lufkin Ma Gary Care all throughout Houston obviously,
and so it's been a whirlwind year. So but Networks,
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I am still involved. I just don't all needy more restaurants,
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I want to get to the World Cup and the
effect on restaurants, yes a moment, And I also want
to ask you about closing your restaurant in twenty three,
because nobody wants to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I want to ask you coming up how much.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
The COVID shutdown had to do with that, because I
have talked to more restaurant tours and small business owners
by that retail, all sorts of things who had to
close a business because of the overreaction to COVID, and
those businesses never come back home with me for just
a moment. Mike Shine as the executive record Texas Restaurant
Associations Greater Houston Chapter and beyond.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We'll continue our conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And it raises the question, folks, we keep getting told
that we have to host these events and this has
been a fun of it. There's no doubt everybody's enjoyed this,
But at what costs and at what benefit
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So Michael darry Show is on the air. That arkes
a couple of months old. And if you want to
really see.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Something that said, take a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
A long two thief.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Part of why I admire and support Joe Biden is
that his tone has been geared towards trying to bring
us together.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
The Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by
Donald Trump and the Maggie Republicans, and that is a
threat to this country.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Others are directly pointing the finger at President Biden, with
of course no evidence that he incited this.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
We told ourselves at American democracy is guaranteed, but it's not.
We have to defend it, protect it, stand up for it,
each and every one of us. We're all called by
duty and conscience to confront extreamists will put their own
pursuit of power above all else. I'd like to take
(01:21):
it behind the gym if.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I were in high school. We're in high school.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I take you behind the gym and beat the hell
out of them.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
A lot of people have tried to draw similarities between
Mussolini and Hitler and the use of the terminology like
Vermin and the drive that those men had towards autocracy
and dictatorship. All he cares about is selfish self promotion.
That's the only philosophy he has, which makes it even
(01:58):
more dangerous.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
A vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election
that you ever get to vote in. And again, I
don't say that lightly, and I think is heartbreaking that
that's where we are. But people have to recognize that
the vote for Donald Trump is a vote against the Constitution.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
And then the biggest threat that officials are telling me
tonight is in the form of retaliatory violencing.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
I just sit back on the sidelines and say, oh, well,
don't worry, this will all work itself out.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
They're still going to have to go out and put
a bullet in Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
And it is frankly unpatriotic at this moment to be
soaking the flames when we know that we are setting
on a cauldron attentions.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The permission structure for violence. You've got polls about political violence.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Democrats don't think is a good idea, only.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
A public bless.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
When was the last time an actor assassinators of president?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the winehouse.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
You have relieved the world when and you will pay
a pride.
Speaker 11 (03:39):
This is just a warning to you trumpets, be careful,
walk lightly, and for those of you who are soldiers,
make them pay.
Speaker 10 (03:50):
I will go and take Trump out to night.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Will kind of you want it. I'd be ready to
throw a punch. We had to be able to throw
a punch for.
Speaker 12 (04:05):
Showing you this video on repeat, because these events just happened.
But we want to make clear that this is something
we are reporting to you as a historic event as
it unfolds. But we are very mindful that this kind
of event can inspire violence, it can inspire retaliation, and
(04:26):
we want no part.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Of that, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So I had commented on the data point that Catholic
baptisms in nineteen sixty five, we're in the millions, and
through the years they have dropped precipitously and yet confirmations.
(05:04):
So we go from sixty five to ninety and then
from ninety to twenty twenty five. Now the drop might
have occurred from sixty five to ninety, that's a twenty
five year period.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But what I was curious about because this speaks to
faith institutions. Generally, we have seen self defined, self described
answering questions to pollsters basically, and church role memberships. We
have seen traditional organized Christian churches have shrunk in membership,
(05:45):
and so that this sort of parallels that. But what
cuts against that is Catholic confirmations are up versus nineteen ninety.
So Dell Busk, our friend and show sponsor, says, Catholic
confirmations are completed by your group. However by church that year.
(06:06):
Group can be accelerated by a year or slowed down
by year. So in any year they may double up
on the number of confirmations because the forward confirmation group
may be pulled into an earlier year. But that depends
upon the diocese and the local churches. And the overall
numbers are so small that if eighty nine moved up
to ninety and twenty twenty six was brought back in
(06:27):
twenty twenty five, that could skew the.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Numbers into the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Maybe, But I don't get the sense that that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's not my read.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
My read is there is an overall rising of the tides.
Our MDVIP concierge doctor says the increased. John Cottingham says
the increased confirmations may be due to adults coming back
to the Catholic Church through RCIA for confirmation.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think this is it.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A number of you emailed in on our email at
Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com or through the website
Michael Berryshow dot com. RCIA is the right of Christian
initiation for adults, and that is the come into the
Catholic Church from outside the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I think that is far more likely the reasoning
for it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
In fact, that's what That was the thing that more
folks emailed in about than anything else.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I'll just grab a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Corey says, I think the reason for the increasing confirmation
is because of people like me. I was christened as
a baby in the Catholic Church, made my first communion,
but never made my confirmation. Oh the three steps, yeah,
were baptism and they went with sixty communion, first communion
they went with the nineteen ninety numbers and then first
communion twenty twenty five and confirmation. First communions are down,
(08:05):
but confirmation is up. I don't actually understand the whole process.
I have a basic understanding. He says, when I was
forty two, I decided I needed to make my confirmation.
So I went to the Sacramento Prep class and a
number of people said they were confirmed when they married
into the Catholic Church. And I think a lot of
adults are coming into the Catholic Church that hadn't ever
(08:27):
been there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think that accounts for some of it too.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It is two years ago today that President Trump was
shot in the head, fortunately survived.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is Stacy Trumble's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Birthday, the other half, the better half of Matt and Stacy,
who we love and adore, some of our favorite members
from the RCC. Was somebody else's birthday? Trying to remember
who it is, somebody I know, I can't think of it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Somebody I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
July thirteenth is somebody's birthday, and I cannot, for the
life of me remember.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But anyway, Muriel, and you're old of Michael Berry, show, go.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Ahead, Yes, good morning, Michael. You were asking about why
confirmation was up. Well, most Catholics have received their baptism
and communion, and for so many years it's been so
difficult to get married in the church because you have
to go through that annulmen process. Well, Pope Francis changed
all that. He's either made it easier someone could tell
(09:38):
you a little better, or he's made them obsolete. So
all of the people who were getting married outside the
Catholic Church are now coming back because I myself had
to go through an annulmen and it's a you know,
a very long process and it can be denied by
the tribunal here in our archdiocese. So confirmation even in
(10:00):
my church at Saint Mary's in Leak City was up
from like thirty to seventy two people, which is quite
a bit.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh yeah, more than double two and a half? Was
your let me ask you, Mary, you was your divorce?
Was your marriage an old or did they agree?
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yes, it wasn't old. But it took a two year process,
and you had to get people to write letters and
say why they thought that the marriage. You know, if
you didn't think it was going to be forever faithful
and fruitful, then that's part of a reason why a marriage.
You know, if you go in with if you're too young.
Sometimes people shouldn't get married until they're untill they're really
ready for that full commitment. And it just seems you know,
(10:40):
I'm in my sixties. It seems like in our generation,
it's like, you know, every other months, soone was getting
married in your twenties, you know, just mine.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, so I heard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, this is a subject that comes up over
the years, especially with famous people. It's always fascinating and
right over the years. Let's say it was rock Huts
and I don't know famous people who would get married
in the Catholic Church, say movie stars in the sixties
or something, and he would be gay, and her argument
for her, her petition for annulment would be on a
(11:16):
lack of consummation and what that was, Hint, hint, he's gay.
And so apparently that the man would always say no, no, no, no,
I'll give you more money. Our basis for annulment has
to be irreconcilable differences. Nobody can believe that I didn't
have sex with this, you know, with this starlet, and
so that she'd kind of have that leverage over him.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
Well, there's there's many reasons for an annulment. And actually
my husband did the annulments. He did a lot of
work with that, and you know, there's a lot of
different grievances for it, but basically Pope Francis has made
it easier. So there's so many people going now for
their third sacrament. They receive the two the baptism and
their communion, and now they're coming and going through the
(12:02):
confirmation because now they know they can get married in
the Catholic Church, and there's so much joy about that.
To make it, you know, you shouldn't have to. You know,
God loves you, and he forgives you, and he wants
you to be part of his church family. So I
think it's beautiful what's happening. And my last thought is
(12:22):
that my I do want to give my love and
prayers to the Grand Family. I know we're all feeling
that today.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, did you get remarried Mary Ellen?
Speaker 9 (12:32):
I did? I did? And did you do it any Yes?
What happened is is we first had my husband did
not He was not a Catholic, he was raised, he
had religion, but he would ask me why are you
He finally came to my mask with me and he's like,
why are you getting up and down? I'm Michael, I
don't know. I've been doing it my whole life. So
(12:53):
he started coming to church with me. Mark and he learned.
He went through the RCIA, and I actually learned my
whole religion, and he became a stronger Catholic than I.
And actually he worked for the archdiocese under Donardo doing
annulments for the Catholic Church. But we first got married.
(13:14):
We got married in Vegas as first, and then two
years later we got married by Father Cargo at Saint
Mary's Church after we went through the whole annulment process.
That took us two years for both of us to
get our marriage in ULLs. And I could see why
a lot of people are frustrated because you're not guaranteed
that you're going to get your the annulment, and then
(13:35):
here you want to get married in your church and
you're not allowed. So well, just so you know, very joyful.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't practice law any longer, but I have two
law degrees and I do stay up on the law.
It's important to me, just so you know, for the
purposes of your estate planning your marriage to Mark in Vegas.
When y'all rushed there and did that wedding, that does
not legally counts, not unless it was an Elvis impersonator
(14:02):
who was okay, well, okay, then it's it's a good marriage.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
It has been blessed by the Catholic Church. We did
get married again in the church. Yes, so we have
two marriages too, wedding days.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, you know, it's funny people think that it's an
attack on them. I have so many issues with, you know,
the power given to the church and my historical understanding
of the church. But that doesn't mean that I lack
respect or love for people for whom that is important.
I cannot tell you how many emails I am sitting
(14:42):
here staring at on my screen of people who left
the church. In fact, people that I didn't know, friends
of mine, multiple friends of mine, who I had no
idea their child couldn't be baptized in the church because
they weren't married yet. And these are people who are
still married to this day, who I would hold up
(15:04):
as as happy a marriage as and family as you
could get.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I mean, these would be in my top twenty fives.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And then they couldn't be god parents because the husband
was on his second marriage. And so you know, I
think it's thank you for the call, Maryland. I think
it's a question of it's a great debate in that
the church and I'll take the Catholic Church, which calls
(15:32):
itself the One True Church, which I disagree with, but
I must admit it's a very trump thing. I like
the bombastic, braggadocious, overly confident I've always had. That's part
of why I jab with Catholics is I love the
Catholic Church's egoism.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It appeals to me.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But I think that you know, as a church, you
do want to implement rules, right as a society, you
want to say, hey, guys, don't do this, or you'll
be a bad person, and that keeps a lot of
people from doing it. Then when the person does do it,
you know, we talk about this with criminal justice, but
over this issue of marriage.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think they lost a lot of people, and it
sounds like.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Pope Francis is bringing a lot of those people back,
which is good for the church. I saw a chart
on how people voted by a denominational affiliation, and you
could look at the different groups as to who was
(16:36):
more likely to vote Republican or Democrat. But what I
noticed as a trend was that in every group, even
if fewer than fifty percent of the membership of that group,
according to these polls, voted for Republicans. The number who
(17:00):
voted for Republicans had gone up dramatically in every group
since two thousand and eight. We had John McCain. In
two thousand and eight, of course, we had Trump three
point zero in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'll give you an example for the United Methodists.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They had gone from fifty five percent Republican voting Republican
to in two thousand and eight. Just know that I'm
going from two thousand and eight, which was John McCain.
Remember we had McCain in O eight Romney and twelve
Trump and sixteen Trump and twenty Trump and twenty four.
So two thousand and eight McCain against Obama, fifty five
(17:40):
percent of United Methodists voted Republican. In twenty twenty four,
that was sixty one percent for a Presbyterian Church USA.
And obviously I'm aware that the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians
and Baptists have had a split away. So you have
a group calling themselves Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Baptist, the American Baptists
(18:01):
who are not the people you're going to meet in Houston,
who call themselves members of that religion.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Because those groups are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The liberal breakoff, and the two things that are most
common in the liberal breakoff is women pastors and a
very pro gay approach. So that's a lot of times
that those are the two kind of hot button issues
that caused them to either split off and make their
(18:31):
own group but hold on to the denominational tag, and
some people would think they're still that denomination or what
caused the stalwarts of that denomination to break off and
create their own group. So when you hear Presbyterian Episcopal Baptists,
you're not necessarily hearing from the people who would be
(18:54):
the more conservative portion of that religion, or who might
hold to the more traditional positions of that faith, of
that denomination of Presbyterians forty eight Presbyterian Church USA forty
eight percent Republican in eight fifty three percent Republican in
twenty twenty four. It says Episcopal Church, I don't know
(19:15):
which part of the Episcopal Church this is thirty five
percent Republican in eight thirty six percent in twenty twenty four.
Disciples of Christ in two thousand and eight, forty six
percent in twenty twenty four, fifty three percent Evangelical Lutheran
Church of America fifty percent in eight fifty two percent
(19:40):
in twenty twenty four, American Baptists that's not Southern Baptists
thirty four percent in eight fifty percent in twenty twenty four,
and United Church of Christ thirty four percent in eight
and thirty nine percent in twenty twenty four. If you
(20:01):
were to give the Democrats credit, and this really preceded
the Democrat Party, if you were to look at the
person the group of people intent on destroying this country,
you would look at the success they have had, and
they have had incredible success. You would look at their
(20:25):
inroads in public education, where they have almost complete hegemony.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
At the university level. They just absolutely dominate the university level.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Why is that important because the universities are where the
funding comes in for the studies. So if you want
to do studies that then the average person, even a
plant worker, a construction worker, a small business owner that
never went to college, will repeat something they hear in
the news. You know, a new study says that if
(20:57):
you don't want your kid transitioning, then you hitler. That's
a new study said that. I can't believe that people
will A study says, well, those studies are coming out
of the universities. So the Democrats in Congress are funding
the studies at the university, so then they have something
to hand to the media. This is just like what
(21:18):
the Hillary Clinton campaign did with Clinton with Fusion GPS,
where you do all the research, you hand it to
an objective source who hands it to the media, and
then they report on it. Trump is owned by the Russians.
Well no, as it turns out, that was all a lie,
but it's too late by that time. If you look
(21:40):
at where the left has made the most massive inroads
in changing our culture, university education, public education K through twelve,
where they've not been quite as successful, but in the
urban school districts they certainly have. You could look at
the institutional church. There is no doubt in my mind,
(22:03):
after the university, this is the place where they have
had the greatest influence, and in fact even greater than
with movies and television. And I'll tell you why. When
people say, oh, well, that's odd, why are you having
Moses played by a black, lesbian, disabled a man who
(22:27):
was born as a woman in the new movie about Moses, Well,
most people see that as weird and historically inaccurate, and
not in any way empowering blacks or accomplishing anything of
what anybody thought anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
But when you can make an inroad into the.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Church, you are basically seeding a traitor into the ranks
of the opposition army to discontent, you are weakening his
greatest force. So whereas the church was a wall against
(23:09):
liberalism in all of its nonsense, to their credit, the
Cloward Piven folks, the Sorrows folks, and Sorrows gets all
the credit. There are a lot of these people funding
these evil candidates. John Arnold in Houston, great example. You
look at who's pouring money into Tall Rico says, the
(23:30):
same people that were pouring money into Beto, says, same
people who were pouring money into Kamala Harris. It's the
same group of people. And what they really are is
people who seek to destabilize America's institutions. They have made
such inroads into the military. I'm told I'm not a veteran, obviously,
(23:52):
but I have had people tell me that even within
the ranks of the Marines, the things that have been
pushed on them. And you've seen videos coming out of
of of Navy sailors and marines and our army soldiers transitioning,
making videos pushing it out. I mean, the left never sleeps,
(24:17):
and they don't try to just embolden their non government
organizations and their various charities.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
They're coming after our institutions.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I get excited about young people starting in a new career.
You get so much bad news out there. But a
friend of mine I went to school with and have
remained friends with all these years, been warning. He told
me very proud of his sons. And he told me
a few months ago he said, my son is applying
(24:53):
to be a ship pilot with Kirby Marine. I said, oh,
you're kidding, I said, friend of mine is the president
and coo over there, Christian O'Neil good Kunas from New Orleans.
His dad had a law firm there. He practiced at
his dad's law firm. But he really really wanted to
(25:14):
get into running maritime operations. And he's a real smart guy,
real savvy, real strategic, real social. He's kind of got
the skills for that industry to rise to the top. Right,
and Kirby Marine, to my knowledge, is as big and
powerful as it gets.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So anyway, we got the news a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That Kenneth Warnick, who's name for his grandfather, Kenneth Wernick,
who was one of my teachers growing up in my
school drive school bus driver because the Wearntings, like Robert Reese,
they had about twenty five kids, so the mom and
dad would take every extra job.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
He was this he was a Shakespearean scholar. This was
pre internet.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I can remember being in second grade and Ben was
in my class. But Ben didn't want to do it,
and they we had to ask mister Wernick a question
about a Shakespeare quote. Because before you had the Internet,
knowledge was power. So would you would ask a knowledgeable
person because they would know such a thing. Everybody didn't
(26:16):
know everything then because you couldn't just google it. Of course,
the problem with Google is context and understanding a lot
of things like that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But if you wanted to know how many home runs Hank.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Aaron broke the record with and in what year and
who made the call and in what stadium, there was
a sports fan out there, you know, Vin's Gully type
person who would tell you that detail. And it was
really really impressive. But anyway, I called Christian to tell him,
we're really excited about Kenneth starting to work at Kirby
(26:50):
Marine and his career as a ship pilot, and he
said that if I could have your prayers for someone
told me the story and I took my notes and
I said, would you mind if I asked a lot
of people to pray for him? And he said, I
would be delighted for you to do that. And it's
a badass, he says. It's a badass marine named Jim Gidrey.
(27:13):
He grew up on COWBAYU that's in Bridge City. His
dad ran a toboat company out of their house. He's
my right hand man. He's going in for surgery this
Wednesday to install a port for dialysis, and he's on
the donor list for a kidney. He's the toughest dude
I know, a marine's marine. But obviously we're all worried
(27:34):
because we want the best for him. And all I
ask you to do is pray for a quick recovery
for him. He's one of the best human beings I've
ever met in my lifetime journey in a great man
of faith. So if those of you who are praying folks,
could hit your knees tonight and add one more person
to it, and I know you got a long list.
(27:56):
That is the That is Jim Gidrey, the executive vice
president of Vessel Operations United States Marine, who grew up
on Kelbayou and Britsy. That makes seem good people already
Dad ran a toboat company out of the house. How
about that? And now he's gone into the maritime industry himself.
Do you have Mike Shine on Jim Okay? I read
(28:18):
an article in Chad's prepp this morning about the economic
boom from the World Cup for Houston restaurants just didn't happen.
And Mike Shine is the executive director of the Texas
Restaurant Association's Greater Houston chapter and basically a guy that
is very, very well respected within the restaurant industry. I
don't know if I was introduced to him by Russell
(28:42):
Lebarro or Tilman Fertita or Chris Pappus or what was
the name of my neighbor who was such a hoot
I think used to be a business partner of his
back in the day, Crypto, Frank Crypto.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think that's probably the first.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Maybe the first person who mentioned his name to me.
But anyway, Mike welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Thank you, Mark. How are you today? Were you and
Corpto business partners?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
We were not.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I bought I bought Frank's Chop House from f Corpedo
and so I turned it. I converted to front my
son and I turned it to Franks Samericana shortly after that.
So here we're friends. Long time from borders. When I
was the president of the Houston Chapter, that kind of fame.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So how are you today?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I'm are you still the executive director of the of
the association?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I am. I stepped off the board. I've been a
twenty five year board member and the president of the
Houston Chapter multiple times on the state board as well.
And the tra basically conned me when I when I
closed Franks aar Khana in the summer of twenty three
that they called and said, would you be willing to
come in as an executive director through the entire Southeast region.
So I thought it was a great opportunity to to
continue to give back. I'm not going to com buy
(29:48):
any more restaurants since twenty twenty and so I've done
that as great. I've spent a little over a year
now and so I have five community sub cities boards
of directors that kind of under my purview and we're
responsible to support them and help them and kind of
guide them all the way from Gallas and all the
way to Lufkin Ma Gary Care all throughout Houston obviously,
and so it's been a whirlwind year. So but Networks,
(30:10):
I am still involved. I just don't all needy more restaurants,
all right.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I want to get to the World Cup and the
effect on restaurants, yes a moment, And I also want
to ask you about closing your restaurant in twenty three,
because nobody wants to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I want to ask you coming up how much.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
The COVID shutdown had to do with that, because I
have talked to more restaurant tours and small business owners
by that retail, all sorts of things who had to
close a business because of the overreaction to COVID, and
those businesses never come back home with me for just
a moment. Mike Shine as the executive record Texas Restaurant
Associations Greater Houston Chapter and beyond.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
We'll continue our conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And it raises the question, folks, we keep getting told
that we have to host these events and this has
been a fun of it. There's no doubt everybody's enjoyed this,
But at what costs and at what benefit
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.