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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. Unlock this door
with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension,
a dimension of sound. Holly fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Way for.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
My passengers, set sail that day or three hour two,
about three hour two.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I have said it many times and I will say
it again. I love Galveston. It is from my childhood
to the present. I have passed many, many happy mornings,
evenings meals, much enjoyment as a father, much enjoyment as
a kid, going with my own parents. It's such a
treasure to me. Now I understand there are plenty of
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people who, for whatever reason, they don't like what's near them,
comment on the color of the water. Somewhere else is
more beautiful. Okay, fine, you're free. I've had people tell
me how much prettier the beaches in Florida are. I say,
all right, long, how often do you go? I try
to go once a year. I've gone down to Galveston
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as many as ten times in one summer. So and
by the way, I'm not even a beach guy. I'm
not even really a big water guy. To enjoy the water,
I enjoy the Bay more than I do the Gulf.
I like the architecture, I like to feel, like the vibe.
I like the people, like the history. There's some fun stuff.
The Bolionnase Room, oh man. The architecture, you can't beat it.
The restaurants, the feel, the vibe, the culture. It's kind
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of a mix between sort of a New Orleans Old South.
I just love it anyway. So there is a book
out called Secret Galveston, A Guy to the Weird, Wonderful
and Obscure. There are two authors, Heidi Lutz and Christine
Ruiz Hopkins. I think Heidi is our guest, right, how
do you welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Me, Yes, ma'am. All right, So tell me why I
write this book. What interested you about this?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, we have written with Christine and I teamed up
in twenty twenty to write one hundred Things to Do
in Galveston Before You Die for the same published in House,
and they do these series of books, and they had
the Secret City book series. Then when we wanted to
do a second we were just intrigued by the idea
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of looking for all those things that make Galveston Galveston
all the things you mentioned that people can either love
or hate about the island. But we did the bucket
list all the things to do, and that's cool and
wonderful and we love that book. But this book explores
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what makes Galveston the personality and destination that it is.
It's everything that builds that vibe you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, it's I think anybody who hates Galvestons MA doesn't
actually go down there. But what I enjoy, I mean,
I've developed a lot of friendships down there. It feels
like most all the places I like to go or
owner owner operated, there's still a lot of that. There's
still there's there's people who've been there there third or
fourth generation. You hear somebody's last name, whether it's Moody
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or Tremante or uh, you know, all sorts of last
names of families that have been there forever and and
the family is now the Guidos or whatever. The family
is selling real estate and running the small business and
doing this and serving on city council.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It it feels like a city full of lore. Let's
talk about a god to the weird, wonderful and obscure.
Talk a little bit about the weird.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I think anyone who has visited Galveston knows we
definitely have our share of weird. But that's what makes
it wonderful, you know. So some of the things that
might be considered weird, I find them weird and wonderful.
One of my favorite shops on the Strand, for example,
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Henley Market. They are one of the original Strand shops
from when the Strand was revitalized in the late seventies
early eighties. They've been there the entire time, Henley Market.
And it's down in the two thousand block of the Strand.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, so what would it be next to? I know
the Strand pretty well, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
At twenty first and Strand, there's that park, a green park,
the Henley Green. It's the building adjacent to it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, all right, And what are they do?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It is down at the end of the Strand across
from there's a Burger place across the street. I think
the Pirate Shop is across the street.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, so it has been there. It's typically open Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday. I think it keeps unique hours, maybe more
frequently in the summer you just have to keep up
with it. But it's the kind of shop that you
go in and you have no idea what you will find.
They are known for a collection of beautiful, beautiful nativities
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from around the world and the owners actually shop go
to these destinations, many from Mexico and South America. They
have little trinkets and icons, but then in the back
they have the cabinet of curiosity. You will find yourself
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a two headed duck that or two headed chick. I
think it's a duck chick that is not for sale,
but it is there on display. You can purchase glass eyes,
antique glass eyes, antique medical equipment, books, beautiful collection of
antique books. It's just you never know. There is one
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of the Fiji mermaids in.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
There that I'm looking at the sign when you come
in that you're talking about begging your pardon. Bare feet
and dogs are well received. Cigarettes, food and drinks are
advised against bare feet and dogs. Actually not perfect. That
sounds like right on the beach.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And when the owner is in, her dog is often
with her behind the counter.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, there's something nice about. My wife used to go
to these shops over on Bisonette in Houston, and they'd
be these old antique shops and we couldn't afford to
buy anything, but we'd go through them and you'd go
in and they'd be it was usually some old gay
guy or or an older woman, and you never you
wondered if they ever actually sold anything out of these shops.
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But they'd be sick in there, and they'd be reading
or working on something, and they didn't bother when you
came in, because they've been at this game long enough
that they're not going to, you know, pounce on you
when you come in. And my wife loves dogs, so
you know, you'd walk around and there'd be the dog,
and the dog wouldn't even get up the fact that
you had come into kind of maybe look at that,
lift their eyes a little and study you and go back.
I always kind of like that. I always thought that
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was kind of a it feels like you're walking into
somebody's living room exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And that's that's the kind of shots we have in Galveston,
and I absolutely love them. And you can find you
can find everything from the weird and obscure and just that.
She also has an Hanley Market lovely soaps and toys.
For kids, so you just it's this assortment. But then
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a couple of blocks down the strand you can find
the shops where you find beautiful Christmas ornaments year round
at Strand Grass and Christmas on the Strand. Down the street,
you've got local standbys that we've had.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Pro wild going hold there. I want to get to
some of those. Heidi Lutz and Christine Ruiz Hopkins have
written Secret Galveson, A Guide to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure.
Coming up, Yonking Locking, Look, can you You've got to
make a very show. The book is called Secret Galveson,
a Guide to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure. Heidi Lutz
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is our guest. Our co author is Christine Ruiz Hopkins.
Is the second book they've written for the same publisher
on the subject of visiting Galveston. Where to go, What
to do?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
What I find fun is that a lot of these
shops that you're talking about, if you didn't know the history,
you'd walk by and look like just a little shop
and you keep on going. You wouldn't know it. It's
sort of like when you go to London and if
you don't know that this is where you know some
famous person. If you don't know, if someone didn't tell you,
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you wouldn't know. That's Winston Churchill's bunker right there. That's
where they planned out World War two. You would have
just walked past some some little space. But when you
tell these stories, it gives people a purpose and they
go in and they stop and they go, I'm about
to be wowed over something I might not have even
noticed before exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And some of that that's what this book is about,
being able to identify these places that you might drive
by or walk by on a daily basis if you
live in Galveston, or when you're visiting, and you might
be staying at Airbnb in the neighborhood or a hotel
close by, and you wouldn't even know. Like Christine, one
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of the things she talks about, she's lived here her
entire life, and she did not realize the significance of
the bell in front of Holy Parish Catholic School. There's
this beautiful, old historic church bell just mounted outside the school. Well,
that's the bell that the Ursuline nuns rang the night
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of the nineteen hundred hurricane to from their convent. Because
it was a large place, and they are credited with
saving fifteen hundred people that night who heard the bell
and knew which direction to go, because if you can
imagine in nineteen hundred, there's this tremendous storm blowing across
the island. It's hitch black, you can't see anything, and
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you're in water that you're either swimming or if you
were early enough to start that way before the water
got that deep. But they were ringing this bell and
pulling people in to their convent. And so that bell
and at the site of that convent was where Holy
Family Parish School is now on Ursuline Avenue and twenty
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fifth Street, and so but if you drive by that bell,
you'd never know what the significance of it was. But
that bell alone helped save fifteen hundred people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And it's one of those things. Heck, if you didn't know,
if you didn't have signs everywhere to tell you where
the Alamo was and what it was and why it's important,
and labels and all that, you might not even notice that.
I remember the first time I went to the Old
Course and in Edinburgh, in St Andrews, and I remember,
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as an American pulling up on this course. I'm not
a golfer, but I appreciated the history of it all,
and I remember thinking there ought to be neon lights
and signs, a billboards saying here it is, but there wasn't.
You could literally just walk out on it. And Galveston
has a lot of that. They downplay a lot of
the really neat historical elements more than you might expect
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for an American sort of tourist attraction.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So one of those there is a sign. There is
a sign in the East End. You're going along and
it says Purity ice Cream. But if you're just walking
your by, you're thinking, okay, there must have been an
ice cream store, ice cream factory there, but unless you
look it up, you don't know the significance. So Purity
ice Cream was made in Galveston, it was shipped around
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the area. They took it out in early delivery methods.
But the owner had earned a reputation for helping teachers
by changing the hours that he sold ice cream so
that he could sell it in the evenings when teachers
were off day job. He could hire teachers to come
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in those evenings and work as families walked in, grabbed
some ice cream after dinner. But the teachers could also
work in grade papers and earn a little extra money
because even back then they knew teachers didn't make the
greatest salaries. And the whole reason he justified it there
was a valve in the factory that normally would be
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turned off automatically at the end of the night, but
it broke and so it had to be manually controlled
and turned off, and so he used that he didn't
fix it, and he used that as an excuse to
open late and hire teachers. Someone would be there to
turn off that valve. I love, and that's what makes
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Galveston the city that it is. You know, we do
have the beautiful architecture, we have this tremendous history, the
birthplace of Juneteenth. We have so many firsts in the country.
Some of the Mayco clubs were the first in the
country to have air conditioning. Can you imagine going to
a nightclub without air conditioning. So we have all these
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beautiful first in Galveston. But it's the people behind those
stories that just make this city what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I saw the reference online to one of your chapters
and Nicky Johnson koons the Shrimp Diva you're talking about
the fleet of shrimping boats that come up there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yes, yes, the history of shrimping in this region and
there are families, her family being one of them. They
have long had the family shrimps. They have a shrimping license.
Oh yeah, and that's just that's the family business. It's
not an easy business by any structure of the imagination
that it's what they do. And I forget what year
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it was now, but there was danger of developing and
moving those shrimp boats out of the Port of Galveston,
and they fought to declare the mosquito fleet at Peer
nineteen is a registered historic landmark and they have a
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place in the Port of Galveston supposedly in perpetuity. But
I imagine all of that can change, but for now
they are protected. And so that's still when you go
to Peer nineteen, those shrimp boats aren't there just for show.
That is still Galveston's family fishing and shrimping fleets, and
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that's where you can go into Kd's Seafood House and
Galveston Shrimp Company and get fresh fish literally right off
the boat. I have been in Kati's on Sundays where
the boat's pulled up to the back of the shop.
The doors are open. They're pulling fish off, and there's
people up front and the occasional stray pelicans trying to
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get out front.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, I've seen it. I see there's nothing fresher nice.
That's a pretty neat thing. Heidi, thanks for being our guest.
I look forward to reading your book. I have not
read it yet. It is called Secret Galveston, A Guide
to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure. And you know we're
not sponsored by the Galveston Chamber of Commerce. I just
happened to love Galveston. Sure, you can go on your
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vacation to Paris or London or Prague or New York
or wherever you want to go. All of those things
are great, and plan your international vacation, or go visit
the French Rivierra, go visit wherever you want to visit.
But for a weekend, to just go down and take
off without any planning in advance. It is so much fun,
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so convenient, and so worthwhile. You'll be surprised how much
fun you have. I always am, and it never Michael Barry,
known as the Czar, also known as El Taso, it's
not been over five years since Rush passed city. It
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was February seventeenth of twenty twenty one. Our career highlight
was doing the Christmas Eve show that year. As you know,
that was his He didn't have children, and he looked
forward to that show and it was a huge honor
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his team gave us to let us do that. It
also kept Claying Buck from being set up for failure
because you know, they didn't ask to replace Rush, and
they tried to be very delicate about it and very
respectful about it. And it's not an easy thing to do.
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That's a tough you know, it's always tough to come
in after a legend like that, whoever that is. But
there's a story that I don't know if I've ever
told before. I thought today would be a good day
to tell. Thirty three years ago a little town in
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Colorado was absolutely swarmed. Now, if you're a Rush Limbaugh fan,
you already know what I'm going to say. If you're not,
it's part of the legend that I think deserves to
be told. So play along if you know already, and
if you don't, you're going to learn something about Rush.
I think remembering is honoring. About thirty five thousand people
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poured into Fort Collins, Colorado for what came to be
known as rush Stock ninety three, all because of a
bake sale. You heard that right, a bake sale. The
man behind it was named Dan Kay. He was twenty
four years old. He'd been working at a flea market,
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and his problem was he wanted a subscription to Rush
Limbaugh's newsletter, but at twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents,
his wife was not having it. So he did what
any resourceful fan would do. He called into Russia's show
and complained, and Rush, never wanted to miss a moment,
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jokingly told him to do what what do we always say?
Hold a bake sale, raise the money yourself. So Dan
took it literally and he actually did it, resourceful fellow.
Somehow what started as a gag turned into a man
yes if gathering that drew tens of thousands of Limball
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loyalists to northern Colorado. The crowd was full of fans
of our fearless leader, el Rushbow. Nobody could have predicted
that a twenty nine dollars ninety five cent newsletter subscription
and a wife saying you can't, and of course a
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call into Rush limbough show would turn into one of
the biggest moments of nineteen ninety three. Let's listen to
Rush Limbaugh from his television show talking about that event.
It's an all bake sale show tonight, folks.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We got some footage from the bake sale. We have
some footage the way the media has covered the event
and some comments, but it really was a great time.
There's a lot of national curiosity about it, and I
want to say right up front, by the way, the
press did a very good and fair job covering this.
We got three minutes on CNN, two and a half
minutes on NBC and CBS well, and they're on their
late news, so we're twenty two minutes show to get
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two and a half or three minutes of it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Most packages are ninety seconds. And the only thing that
was I think not properly reported was the size of
the crowd, and we'll talk about that as the program goes.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Here's just some shots to show you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
This is the old Town Square in Fort Collins, Colorado.
These two little dots you see here are the stage.
We have a shot coming up tonight of me speaking,
and you'll see people after people after people, and just
it's nothing but walla wall people for as far as
you can see. And it's only this section.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'll point it out to you.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is this right here? None of it?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's just it's an awesome, awesome shot. You'll see the
perspective of the crowd very well. This is Dan of
Dan's bake Sale, the guy I'm pointing to, and we
have a little bit of him. These are mounted cops.
These guys got me to that stage.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Can we go back to this monitor?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
He Let me show you something if you can get
a close up here. Let me grab my rain forest pointer.
I don't often use this, but I want to show
you something.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I used to use this pointer a lot and people said, hey,
you're distracting us with the pointer. You're the show, not
the pointer. You as your finger and just a little
change of pace. Now, can we get a close up here? Chet,
come on in these two things here are the stage.
I was hidden out in this building here. This is
where I was, ladies and gentlemen, so as to protect
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me from the throng, from the mob.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And I had to get from.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Here to here and still be alive.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So I could make a speech, and we did it.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
With these guys on horseback, these guys. This is not
a shot of that, but I was sandwiched in between
them with a wall of cops, and everybody is very cooperative,
and that's how we got it done.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, his flair for showmanship, the tongue firmly planted
in cheek as he would say. You know, Trump does this.
If you love Rush, you take what he's saying literally.
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If you hate Rush, everything he says simply affirms what
you already knew. He's a blow hard, blustering, self important,
narcissistic fool. So he's really serving everyone in the process. Everyone.
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He's doing everyone a favor. He's doing his enemies a favor.
He's giving them a focus to be angry about, and
that becomes in and of itself, that becomes an activity,
that becomes a thing that they do that fills their time.
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You've seen this with You saw it with Donald Trump,
You've seen it. I've seen it with anyone who becomes
a focal point for MAGA or the Tea Party or
Christians or Americana. You see how the more people love
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you for what the left hates the more they have
to hate you. And the incredible thing about Rush, I mean,
I'm trying to think. You know, we've had people who
now we have a term for this now trolling, right,
which is where you do things for the sole purpose
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of upsetting the other side. And we had people who
did that to some extent. But long before Trump, Rush
was doing this, and he was reveling in it. He
was enjoying it so much. And there's something fantastic about that.
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And today it's it's not as noteworthy, but nobody was
doing that back then, nobody was. Nobody's was engaging in
what we would now call trolling in a way that
your your supporters could cheer for it. And you're making
your in it. You're just giving them more to be
angry about it than Rush did. There's more to this,
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there's much more to this. My first I've been destroying
the black community is to dismantle the black family. To
Michael Berry Show, why don't.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris cares about
black families?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, if you're just tuned in another exciting hour of
our tribute to Rush Limbaugh. Every day, we'd like to
think it's a tribute to Rush Limba. Our show is
a tribute to Rush Lamba. We wouldn't be here if
Rush Lambo hadn't saved the AM dial. So everything we
do who is a tribute to him. Thirty three years ago,
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a small town in Colorado, Fort Collins, Colorado, became known
as rush Stock ninety three when thirty five thousand people
poured in for a bake sale. A twenty four year
old by the name of Dan k who was working
in a flea market, called into Rush as show. He
wanted a subscription to Rush Limbaugh's newsletter, but his wife
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told him, we don't have twenty nine dollars and ninety
five cents per month to pay for it. And I
guess that was the per month? Was that was it
per month?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Was that it for a year?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Maybe that was for a year, okay? And his wife said, no,
we don't have that kind of money. That's real money,
and we don't make that. So I think he probably
thought Rush would say, well, here, I'll send it to
you free, and he said have a bake sale. So
the guy dead and Rush showed up. Rush then showed
a video package. This is on his TV show of
that day when rush shows up.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Let's just put this whole thing in perspective. We've got
a package an overviews. It'll start out with lines of
traffic trying to get into Fort Collins, aerial shots of
the crowd, some stuff from the bake sale, randomly put together.
This is a good two minute overview.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So let's get started with this. Take a look standing
down Russey musvan. You acquisition the mus edition. We'll make
some money. Enrages, Honey, we're vacant parties. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Hey the IV one I'm pulling in.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Forgo, I prevent for you.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Run your mom, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I see crowd American.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
These people who have probably been here for a while, met.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
A lot of people.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know, you've met a lot of new friends.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And you're happy today, right, Good.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And gentlemen, Why I love you all from the bottom
of my heart.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I want you to I appreciate this more than you
can possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I really do you have.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It does like a change around.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
In my life, and I want to encourage you to
continue to be yourselves and to be happy at above hole.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't get down.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I know the dominant media culture makes it look like
what you and I believe it is a minority, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We are the majority of.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Feeders in the art. It's hard to estimate crowd sizes.
They say thirty five thousand people, and of course that
became a big deal in first in Trump's first remember
the pea hat, the female anatomy hat. I'm not going
to say the word. I don't use that word. I
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also don't use the sea word. I don't like the word.
If I'm being completely honest, I will refer to the
P word if somebody is being a sissy, a baby,
like come on, like you get your films hurt over
that you're such a But I'll usually just say woosy
with a W instead. But anyway, that became a big issue.
I've always thought crowd sizes were overrated. But anyway, Rush
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talked about how they came up with an unofficial number
for how many people were there. It's a lot. How
about this, It's a whole lot. Chip love me or chet,
I do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
We've got Our director's name is Check. One day I
called him Chip, and so we all call him Chip
or Check.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now Check put an aerial view up here.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Anyone will do as I As I talk about the
crowd size, the official estimate that was reported first from
the Associated Press was twenty thousand or more. So it
was at least twenty thousand. Then the figure was up
to thirty five thousand. On Saturday night said twenty five thousand,
thirty five thousand, forty five thousand or more. And today
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on Monday, we got our official estimate from police officers
and sheriffs departments on the scene. They're saying anywhere from
thirty five to seventy five thousand.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Here's why it's tough to count.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
In the first place, nobody really knows what the capacity of.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That old town square is.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
This is the first time anything like this has ever happened.
But we've got some good indications. In the first place,
they have a football stadium there. The seats about fifty
to sixty thousand people's Colorado state maybe more than that.
The parking lot there it can handle thirty thousand cars.
That parking lot was full, and you know that more
than one person came in each car. We also had
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twenty five thousand copies.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of a Limball letter that we gave away.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
We did not give anybody more than one and we
didn't give everybody one, so they're at least twenty five
thousand there. We figured that at least three times that
many came by that didn't get We figured we gave
one away to one of every three people there an
eight hour event, and at any one time it may
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very well be that in that square area, twenty to
thirty thousand people is the max you can get in there.
But this was an eight hour event, and people were
coming and going all day long. They came by bus,
they came by train, they came by car, they came
by camel caravan.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
They take the Hoof Express.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
They walked in. They came from the United Kingdom, they
came from Guam, they came from Angola. Both snerdly ran
into some people from Angola.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
They were, I mean, from all over the world.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And there was a twenty five mile traffic jam on
n I twenty five trying to get in, which we
have footage will show you. There was a seven mile
bus caravan to get in. Now that doesn't happen with
a crowd of twenty thousand people. Now, I'm not quibbling
about the crowd. I'm not trying to make a big
deal about numbers, but I am interested in the truth.
We are in relentless pursuit of the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Here, to no one's surprise, the crowd, unlike those at
Democrat events, was very well behaved.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Now this is another thing too. Most events, like a
three hour rock concert, a baseball game or something in
the crowd comes, they expect a thirty minute or three
hour show, and they get what they want or not
get they want, but they.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Leave eight hours. And there was no show here. It
was just a bunch of great.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
People, happy content, prosperous people, people on their way to prosperity,
people who have the same values, the same goals, the
same objectives, and they just wanted to get together with
one another and they did and that was what sustained them.
It was just a giant neighborhood that was generated.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
By my radio and television shows. It was just a
sight to behold.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And so the crowd, I think was significantly larger than
what has been reported, and it was the most well
behaved crowd of its size. It was an amazing thing,
cops All said. Cops all said that they've never seen
a more peaceful group than this. Everybody in the city
was with surprise, because normally what they get in there
is crowds that cause trouble and make a mess out
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of things. In this group didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Now, that is an important point. It's qualitative, not quantitative.
The size of the crowd is irrelevant in my opinion.
It's the type of people who were there. You get
a lot of people to show up for an Antifa
event or a p HAT event or Black Lives Matter.
(32:24):
If you were a business, you wouldn't want to miss customers.
That is why talk radio as a format has become
the most profitable, most coveted format. Is not because of
me or Clay and Buck or Sean or Glenn or
Jesse Kelly or any of these other folks. It is
(32:45):
because you are the customer that every business wants. You're
a pleasure to do business with. This is the basis
of the economic mode of talk radio. That's why talk
radio stations are booming, not because of us, but because
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of you. That's the truth. There is a business to
most everything, and you are the coveted customer of every
person who is sponsoring my show and everyone else on
this network.
It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. Unlock this door
with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension,
a dimension of sound. Holly fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Way for.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
My passengers, set sail that day or three hour two,
about three hour two.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I have said it many times and I will say
it again. I love Galveston. It is from my childhood
to the present. I have passed many, many happy mornings,
evenings meals, much enjoyment as a father, much enjoyment as
a kid, going with my own parents. It's such a
treasure to me. Now I understand there are plenty of
(01:03):
people who, for whatever reason, they don't like what's near them,
comment on the color of the water. Somewhere else is
more beautiful. Okay, fine, you're free. I've had people tell
me how much prettier the beaches in Florida are. I say,
all right, long, how often do you go? I try
to go once a year. I've gone down to Galveston
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as many as ten times in one summer. So and
by the way, I'm not even a beach guy. I'm
not even really a big water guy. To enjoy the water,
I enjoy the Bay more than I do the Gulf.
I like the architecture, I like to feel, like the vibe.
I like the people, like the history. There's some fun stuff.
The Bolionnase Room, oh man. The architecture, you can't beat it.
The restaurants, the feel, the vibe, the culture. It's kind
(01:49):
of a mix between sort of a New Orleans Old South.
I just love it anyway. So there is a book
out called Secret Galveston, A Guy to the Weird, Wonderful
and Obscure. There are two authors, Heidi Lutz and Christine
Ruiz Hopkins. I think Heidi is our guest, right, how
do you welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Me, Yes, ma'am. All right, So tell me why I
write this book. What interested you about this?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, we have written with Christine and I teamed up
in twenty twenty to write one hundred Things to Do
in Galveston Before You Die for the same published in House,
and they do these series of books, and they had
the Secret City book series. Then when we wanted to
do a second we were just intrigued by the idea
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of looking for all those things that make Galveston Galveston
all the things you mentioned that people can either love
or hate about the island. But we did the bucket
list all the things to do, and that's cool and
wonderful and we love that book. But this book explores
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what makes Galveston the personality and destination that it is.
It's everything that builds that vibe you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, it's I think anybody who hates Galvestons MA doesn't
actually go down there. But what I enjoy, I mean,
I've developed a lot of friendships down there. It feels
like most all the places I like to go or
owner owner operated, there's still a lot of that. There's
still there's there's people who've been there there third or
fourth generation. You hear somebody's last name, whether it's Moody
(03:34):
or Tremante or uh, you know, all sorts of last
names of families that have been there forever and and
the family is now the Guidos or whatever. The family
is selling real estate and running the small business and
doing this and serving on city council.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It it feels like a city full of lore. Let's
talk about a god to the weird, wonderful and obscure.
Talk a little bit about the weird.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I think anyone who has visited Galveston knows we
definitely have our share of weird. But that's what makes
it wonderful, you know. So some of the things that
might be considered weird, I find them weird and wonderful.
One of my favorite shops on the Strand, for example,
(04:22):
Henley Market. They are one of the original Strand shops
from when the Strand was revitalized in the late seventies
early eighties. They've been there the entire time, Henley Market.
And it's down in the two thousand block of the Strand.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, so what would it be next to? I know
the Strand pretty well, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
At twenty first and Strand, there's that park, a green park,
the Henley Green. It's the building adjacent to it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, all right, And what are they do?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It is down at the end of the Strand across
from there's a Burger place across the street. I think
the Pirate Shop is across the street.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, so it has been there. It's typically open Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday. I think it keeps unique hours, maybe more
frequently in the summer you just have to keep up
with it. But it's the kind of shop that you
go in and you have no idea what you will find.
They are known for a collection of beautiful, beautiful nativities
(05:30):
from around the world and the owners actually shop go
to these destinations, many from Mexico and South America. They
have little trinkets and icons, but then in the back
they have the cabinet of curiosity. You will find yourself
(05:51):
a two headed duck that or two headed chick. I
think it's a duck chick that is not for sale,
but it is there on display. You can purchase glass eyes,
antique glass eyes, antique medical equipment, books, beautiful collection of
antique books. It's just you never know. There is one
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of the Fiji mermaids in.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
There that I'm looking at the sign when you come
in that you're talking about begging your pardon. Bare feet
and dogs are well received. Cigarettes, food and drinks are
advised against bare feet and dogs. Actually not perfect. That
sounds like right on the beach.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And when the owner is in, her dog is often
with her behind the counter.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, there's something nice about. My wife used to go
to these shops over on Bisonette in Houston, and they'd
be these old antique shops and we couldn't afford to
buy anything, but we'd go through them and you'd go
in and they'd be it was usually some old gay
guy or or an older woman, and you never you
wondered if they ever actually sold anything out of these shops.
(06:59):
But they'd be sick in there, and they'd be reading
or working on something, and they didn't bother when you
came in, because they've been at this game long enough
that they're not going to, you know, pounce on you
when you come in. And my wife loves dogs, so
you know, you'd walk around and there'd be the dog,
and the dog wouldn't even get up the fact that
you had come into kind of maybe look at that,
lift their eyes a little and study you and go back.
I always kind of like that. I always thought that
(07:19):
was kind of a it feels like you're walking into
somebody's living room exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And that's that's the kind of shots we have in Galveston,
and I absolutely love them. And you can find you
can find everything from the weird and obscure and just that.
She also has an Hanley Market lovely soaps and toys.
For kids, so you just it's this assortment. But then
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a couple of blocks down the strand you can find
the shops where you find beautiful Christmas ornaments year round
at Strand Grass and Christmas on the Strand. Down the street,
you've got local standbys that we've had.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Pro wild going hold there. I want to get to
some of those. Heidi Lutz and Christine Ruiz Hopkins have
written Secret Galveson, A Guide to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure.
Coming up, Yonking Locking, Look, can you You've got to
make a very show. The book is called Secret Galveson,
a Guide to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure. Heidi Lutz
(08:25):
is our guest. Our co author is Christine Ruiz Hopkins.
Is the second book they've written for the same publisher
on the subject of visiting Galveston. Where to go, What
to do?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
What I find fun is that a lot of these
shops that you're talking about, if you didn't know the history,
you'd walk by and look like just a little shop
and you keep on going. You wouldn't know it. It's
sort of like when you go to London and if
you don't know that this is where you know some
famous person. If you don't know, if someone didn't tell you,
(08:56):
you wouldn't know. That's Winston Churchill's bunker right there. That's
where they planned out World War two. You would have
just walked past some some little space. But when you
tell these stories, it gives people a purpose and they
go in and they stop and they go, I'm about
to be wowed over something I might not have even
noticed before exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And some of that that's what this book is about,
being able to identify these places that you might drive
by or walk by on a daily basis if you
live in Galveston, or when you're visiting, and you might
be staying at Airbnb in the neighborhood or a hotel
close by, and you wouldn't even know. Like Christine, one
(09:35):
of the things she talks about, she's lived here her
entire life, and she did not realize the significance of
the bell in front of Holy Parish Catholic School. There's
this beautiful, old historic church bell just mounted outside the school. Well,
that's the bell that the Ursuline nuns rang the night
(09:56):
of the nineteen hundred hurricane to from their convent. Because
it was a large place, and they are credited with
saving fifteen hundred people that night who heard the bell
and knew which direction to go, because if you can
imagine in nineteen hundred, there's this tremendous storm blowing across
the island. It's hitch black, you can't see anything, and
(10:21):
you're in water that you're either swimming or if you
were early enough to start that way before the water
got that deep. But they were ringing this bell and
pulling people in to their convent. And so that bell
and at the site of that convent was where Holy
Family Parish School is now on Ursuline Avenue and twenty
(10:43):
fifth Street, and so but if you drive by that bell,
you'd never know what the significance of it was. But
that bell alone helped save fifteen hundred people.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And it's one of those things. Heck, if you didn't know,
if you didn't have signs everywhere to tell you where
the Alamo was and what it was and why it's important,
and labels and all that, you might not even notice that.
I remember the first time I went to the Old
Course and in Edinburgh, in St Andrews, and I remember,
(11:13):
as an American pulling up on this course. I'm not
a golfer, but I appreciated the history of it all,
and I remember thinking there ought to be neon lights
and signs, a billboards saying here it is, but there wasn't.
You could literally just walk out on it. And Galveston
has a lot of that. They downplay a lot of
the really neat historical elements more than you might expect
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for an American sort of tourist attraction.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So one of those there is a sign. There is
a sign in the East End. You're going along and
it says Purity ice Cream. But if you're just walking
your by, you're thinking, okay, there must have been an
ice cream store, ice cream factory there, but unless you
look it up, you don't know the significance. So Purity
ice Cream was made in Galveston, it was shipped around
(12:02):
the area. They took it out in early delivery methods.
But the owner had earned a reputation for helping teachers
by changing the hours that he sold ice cream so
that he could sell it in the evenings when teachers
were off day job. He could hire teachers to come
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in those evenings and work as families walked in, grabbed
some ice cream after dinner. But the teachers could also
work in grade papers and earn a little extra money
because even back then they knew teachers didn't make the
greatest salaries. And the whole reason he justified it there
was a valve in the factory that normally would be
(12:43):
turned off automatically at the end of the night, but
it broke and so it had to be manually controlled
and turned off, and so he used that he didn't
fix it, and he used that as an excuse to
open late and hire teachers. Someone would be there to
turn off that valve. I love, and that's what makes
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Galveston the city that it is. You know, we do
have the beautiful architecture, we have this tremendous history, the
birthplace of Juneteenth. We have so many firsts in the country.
Some of the Mayco clubs were the first in the
country to have air conditioning. Can you imagine going to
a nightclub without air conditioning. So we have all these
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beautiful first in Galveston. But it's the people behind those
stories that just make this city what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I saw the reference online to one of your chapters
and Nicky Johnson koons the Shrimp Diva you're talking about
the fleet of shrimping boats that come up there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yes, yes, the history of shrimping in this region and
there are families, her family being one of them. They
have long had the family shrimps. They have a shrimping license.
Oh yeah, and that's just that's the family business. It's
not an easy business by any structure of the imagination
that it's what they do. And I forget what year
(14:08):
it was now, but there was danger of developing and
moving those shrimp boats out of the Port of Galveston,
and they fought to declare the mosquito fleet at Peer
nineteen is a registered historic landmark and they have a
(14:30):
place in the Port of Galveston supposedly in perpetuity. But
I imagine all of that can change, but for now
they are protected. And so that's still when you go
to Peer nineteen, those shrimp boats aren't there just for show.
That is still Galveston's family fishing and shrimping fleets, and
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that's where you can go into Kd's Seafood House and
Galveston Shrimp Company and get fresh fish literally right off
the boat. I have been in Kati's on Sundays where
the boat's pulled up to the back of the shop.
The doors are open. They're pulling fish off, and there's
people up front and the occasional stray pelicans trying to
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get out front.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, I've seen it. I see there's nothing fresher nice.
That's a pretty neat thing. Heidi, thanks for being our guest.
I look forward to reading your book. I have not
read it yet. It is called Secret Galveston, A Guide
to the Weird, Wonderful and Obscure. And you know we're
not sponsored by the Galveston Chamber of Commerce. I just
happened to love Galveston. Sure, you can go on your
(15:37):
vacation to Paris or London or Prague or New York
or wherever you want to go. All of those things
are great, and plan your international vacation, or go visit
the French Rivierra, go visit wherever you want to visit.
But for a weekend, to just go down and take
off without any planning in advance. It is so much fun,
(16:01):
so convenient, and so worthwhile. You'll be surprised how much
fun you have. I always am, and it never Michael Barry,
known as the Czar, also known as El Taso, it's
not been over five years since Rush passed city. It
(16:27):
was February seventeenth of twenty twenty one. Our career highlight
was doing the Christmas Eve show that year. As you know,
that was his He didn't have children, and he looked
forward to that show and it was a huge honor
(16:47):
his team gave us to let us do that. It
also kept Claying Buck from being set up for failure
because you know, they didn't ask to replace Rush, and
they tried to be very delicate about it and very
respectful about it. And it's not an easy thing to do.
(17:07):
That's a tough you know, it's always tough to come
in after a legend like that, whoever that is. But
there's a story that I don't know if I've ever
told before. I thought today would be a good day
to tell. Thirty three years ago a little town in
(17:28):
Colorado was absolutely swarmed. Now, if you're a Rush Limbaugh fan,
you already know what I'm going to say. If you're not,
it's part of the legend that I think deserves to
be told. So play along if you know already, and
if you don't, you're going to learn something about Rush.
I think remembering is honoring. About thirty five thousand people
(17:51):
poured into Fort Collins, Colorado for what came to be
known as rush Stock ninety three, all because of a
bake sale. You heard that right, a bake sale. The
man behind it was named Dan Kay. He was twenty
four years old. He'd been working at a flea market,
(18:14):
and his problem was he wanted a subscription to Rush
Limbaugh's newsletter, but at twenty nine dollars and ninety five cents,
his wife was not having it. So he did what
any resourceful fan would do. He called into Russia's show
and complained, and Rush, never wanted to miss a moment,
(18:40):
jokingly told him to do what what do we always say?
Hold a bake sale, raise the money yourself. So Dan
took it literally and he actually did it, resourceful fellow.
Somehow what started as a gag turned into a man
yes if gathering that drew tens of thousands of Limball
(19:04):
loyalists to northern Colorado. The crowd was full of fans
of our fearless leader, el Rushbow. Nobody could have predicted
that a twenty nine dollars ninety five cent newsletter subscription
and a wife saying you can't, and of course a
(19:24):
call into Rush limbough show would turn into one of
the biggest moments of nineteen ninety three. Let's listen to
Rush Limbaugh from his television show talking about that event.
It's an all bake sale show tonight, folks.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We got some footage from the bake sale. We have
some footage the way the media has covered the event
and some comments, but it really was a great time.
There's a lot of national curiosity about it, and I
want to say right up front, by the way, the
press did a very good and fair job covering this.
We got three minutes on CNN, two and a half
minutes on NBC and CBS well, and they're on their
late news, so we're twenty two minutes show to get
(20:02):
two and a half or three minutes of it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Most packages are ninety seconds. And the only thing that
was I think not properly reported was the size of
the crowd, and we'll talk about that as the program goes.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Here's just some shots to show you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
This is the old Town Square in Fort Collins, Colorado.
These two little dots you see here are the stage.
We have a shot coming up tonight of me speaking,
and you'll see people after people after people, and just
it's nothing but walla wall people for as far as
you can see. And it's only this section.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'll point it out to you.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is this right here? None of it?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's just it's an awesome, awesome shot. You'll see the
perspective of the crowd very well. This is Dan of
Dan's bake Sale, the guy I'm pointing to, and we
have a little bit of him. These are mounted cops.
These guys got me to that stage.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Can we go back to this monitor?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
He Let me show you something if you can get
a close up here. Let me grab my rain forest pointer.
I don't often use this, but I want to show
you something.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I used to use this pointer a lot and people said, hey,
you're distracting us with the pointer. You're the show, not
the pointer. You as your finger and just a little
change of pace. Now, can we get a close up here? Chet,
come on in these two things here are the stage.
I was hidden out in this building here. This is
where I was, ladies and gentlemen, so as to protect
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me from the throng, from the mob.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And I had to get from.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Here to here and still be alive.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So I could make a speech, and we did it.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
With these guys on horseback, these guys. This is not
a shot of that, but I was sandwiched in between
them with a wall of cops, and everybody is very cooperative,
and that's how we got it done.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You know, his flair for showmanship, the tongue firmly planted
in cheek as he would say. You know, Trump does this.
If you love Rush, you take what he's saying literally.
(22:09):
If you hate Rush, everything he says simply affirms what
you already knew. He's a blow hard, blustering, self important,
narcissistic fool. So he's really serving everyone in the process. Everyone.
(22:31):
He's doing everyone a favor. He's doing his enemies a favor.
He's giving them a focus to be angry about, and
that becomes in and of itself, that becomes an activity,
that becomes a thing that they do that fills their time.
(22:54):
You've seen this with You saw it with Donald Trump,
You've seen it. I've seen it with anyone who becomes
a focal point for MAGA or the Tea Party or
Christians or Americana. You see how the more people love
(23:19):
you for what the left hates the more they have
to hate you. And the incredible thing about Rush, I mean,
I'm trying to think. You know, we've had people who
now we have a term for this now trolling, right,
which is where you do things for the sole purpose
(23:40):
of upsetting the other side. And we had people who
did that to some extent. But long before Trump, Rush
was doing this, and he was reveling in it. He
was enjoying it so much. And there's something fantastic about that.
(24:03):
And today it's it's not as noteworthy, but nobody was
doing that back then, nobody was. Nobody's was engaging in
what we would now call trolling in a way that
your your supporters could cheer for it. And you're making
your in it. You're just giving them more to be
angry about it than Rush did. There's more to this,
(24:29):
there's much more to this. My first I've been destroying
the black community is to dismantle the black family. To
Michael Berry Show, why don't.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris cares about
black families?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, if you're just tuned in another exciting hour of
our tribute to Rush Limbaugh. Every day, we'd like to
think it's a tribute to Rush Limba. Our show is
a tribute to Rush Lamba. We wouldn't be here if
Rush Lambo hadn't saved the AM dial. So everything we
do who is a tribute to him. Thirty three years ago,
(25:02):
a small town in Colorado, Fort Collins, Colorado, became known
as rush Stock ninety three when thirty five thousand people
poured in for a bake sale. A twenty four year
old by the name of Dan k who was working
in a flea market, called into Rush as show. He
wanted a subscription to Rush Limbaugh's newsletter, but his wife
(25:24):
told him, we don't have twenty nine dollars and ninety
five cents per month to pay for it. And I
guess that was the per month? Was that was it
per month?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Was that it for a year?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Maybe that was for a year, okay? And his wife said, no,
we don't have that kind of money. That's real money,
and we don't make that. So I think he probably
thought Rush would say, well, here, I'll send it to
you free, and he said have a bake sale. So
the guy dead and Rush showed up. Rush then showed
a video package. This is on his TV show of
that day when rush shows up.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Let's just put this whole thing in perspective. We've got
a package an overviews. It'll start out with lines of
traffic trying to get into Fort Collins, aerial shots of
the crowd, some stuff from the bake sale, randomly put together.
This is a good two minute overview.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So let's get started with this. Take a look standing
down Russey musvan. You acquisition the mus edition. We'll make
some money. Enrages, Honey, we're vacant parties. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Hey the IV one I'm pulling in.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Forgo, I prevent for you.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Run your mom, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I see crowd American.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
These people who have probably been here for a while, met.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
A lot of people.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know, you've met a lot of new friends.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
And you're happy today, right, Good.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And gentlemen, Why I love you all from the bottom
of my heart.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I want you to I appreciate this more than you
can possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I really do you have.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It does like a change around.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
In my life, and I want to encourage you to
continue to be yourselves and to be happy at above hole.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't get down.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I know the dominant media culture makes it look like
what you and I believe it is a minority, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We are the majority of.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Feeders in the art. It's hard to estimate crowd sizes.
They say thirty five thousand people, and of course that
became a big deal in first in Trump's first remember
the pea hat, the female anatomy hat. I'm not going
to say the word. I don't use that word. I
(28:02):
also don't use the sea word. I don't like the word.
If I'm being completely honest, I will refer to the
P word if somebody is being a sissy, a baby,
like come on, like you get your films hurt over
that you're such a But I'll usually just say woosy
with a W instead. But anyway, that became a big issue.
I've always thought crowd sizes were overrated. But anyway, Rush
(28:26):
talked about how they came up with an unofficial number
for how many people were there. It's a lot. How
about this, It's a whole lot. Chip love me or chet,
I do that all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
We've got Our director's name is Check. One day I
called him Chip, and so we all call him Chip
or Check.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now Check put an aerial view up here.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Anyone will do as I As I talk about the
crowd size, the official estimate that was reported first from
the Associated Press was twenty thousand or more. So it
was at least twenty thousand. Then the figure was up
to thirty five thousand. On Saturday night said twenty five thousand,
thirty five thousand, forty five thousand or more. And today
(29:06):
on Monday, we got our official estimate from police officers
and sheriffs departments on the scene. They're saying anywhere from
thirty five to seventy five thousand.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Here's why it's tough to count.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
In the first place, nobody really knows what the capacity of.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That old town square is.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
This is the first time anything like this has ever happened.
But we've got some good indications. In the first place,
they have a football stadium there. The seats about fifty
to sixty thousand people's Colorado state maybe more than that.
The parking lot there it can handle thirty thousand cars.
That parking lot was full, and you know that more
than one person came in each car. We also had
(29:42):
twenty five thousand copies.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of a Limball letter that we gave away.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
We did not give anybody more than one and we
didn't give everybody one, so they're at least twenty five
thousand there. We figured that at least three times that
many came by that didn't get We figured we gave
one away to one of every three people there an
eight hour event, and at any one time it may
(30:06):
very well be that in that square area, twenty to
thirty thousand people is the max you can get in there.
But this was an eight hour event, and people were
coming and going all day long. They came by bus,
they came by train, they came by car, they came
by camel caravan.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
They take the Hoof Express.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
They walked in. They came from the United Kingdom, they
came from Guam, they came from Angola. Both snerdly ran
into some people from Angola.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
They were, I mean, from all over the world.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And there was a twenty five mile traffic jam on
n I twenty five trying to get in, which we
have footage will show you. There was a seven mile
bus caravan to get in. Now that doesn't happen with
a crowd of twenty thousand people. Now, I'm not quibbling
about the crowd. I'm not trying to make a big
deal about numbers, but I am interested in the truth.
We are in relentless pursuit of the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Here, to no one's surprise, the crowd, unlike those at
Democrat events, was very well behaved.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Now this is another thing too. Most events, like a
three hour rock concert, a baseball game or something in
the crowd comes, they expect a thirty minute or three
hour show, and they get what they want or not
get they want, but they.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Leave eight hours. And there was no show here. It
was just a bunch of great.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
People, happy content, prosperous people, people on their way to prosperity,
people who have the same values, the same goals, the
same objectives, and they just wanted to get together with
one another and they did and that was what sustained them.
It was just a giant neighborhood that was generated.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
By my radio and television shows. It was just a
sight to behold.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And so the crowd, I think was significantly larger than
what has been reported, and it was the most well
behaved crowd of its size. It was an amazing thing,
cops All said. Cops all said that they've never seen
a more peaceful group than this. Everybody in the city
was with surprise, because normally what they get in there
is crowds that cause trouble and make a mess out
(32:01):
of things. In this group didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Now, that is an important point. It's qualitative, not quantitative.
The size of the crowd is irrelevant in my opinion.
It's the type of people who were there. You get
a lot of people to show up for an Antifa
event or a p HAT event or Black Lives Matter.
(32:24):
If you were a business, you wouldn't want to miss customers.
That is why talk radio as a format has become
the most profitable, most coveted format. Is not because of
me or Clay and Buck or Sean or Glenn or
Jesse Kelly or any of these other folks. It is
(32:45):
because you are the customer that every business wants. You're
a pleasure to do business with. This is the basis
of the economic mode of talk radio. That's why talk
radio stations are booming, not because of us, but because
(33:07):
of you. That's the truth. There is a business to
most everything, and you are the coveted customer of every
person who is sponsoring my show and everyone else on
this network.
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