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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time. Time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael darry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I only wanted y'all entire eighteen my my mama head
of the man's world, so I had to wait till
I was twenty people.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
This is a man's.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The man world.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let us a man's.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, the man world. But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Without a woman a good the man world.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You see, Mad me the cars.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
To take us over the room the means world.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Mad made the tree in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
To carry the heaven Lord.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Mad made the electoral hate in the main world. You
take us out of the dog. Mad made the bottom
the wall like nor made the ark the means world.
As a man's a man man's live, mean world.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It mightn't be mad as a lot of women are there
the mean world.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man thinks about a little bit of baby girls.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Had a baby boys.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man make them happy I mean world.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Because men made them times.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The main world.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And how the man make everything everything?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You can't the main world? Do you know that man
makes money?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Goodbye the other man?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The man the mean world was not a thing about
a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
All that I mean world.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You find some really really strong characters. He laughs, who
grew up at a different time when life was extra hard.
Women who grew up had children at a young age,
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struggle through that. They didn't have the resources they have.
Now husband dies, leaves them, and she's got to figure
out a way to make a living and take care
of those kids, because the kids were always left with her.
Maybe there's a bunch of them, maybe it's a small town,
they're out in the country, she no transportation. All of
a sudden, you gottaigure out how to keep these kids
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from starving. Those women who made it through that them
strong women, strong women black and white. Did you get
some of those old black women from that era, that time,
that life living like that, surviving raising those kids, some
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of them going to be phenomenally professionally successful, going to
stable lives, going to be contrue.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's amazing. It's a different time.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's hard to believe in a generation or two or three,
how life would have been different for that person. And
the things they have said. I don't know ADDIE's story,
but when her mother said it's a man's world, I
get to sense it that's kind of what her mother
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was talking about. My grandmother used to tell me the
story of her mother, who we call big Mama.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No we did.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I know that's not a white people thing to call,
but that's what we call my great grandmother, my mother's
my sorry said so, my mother's mother's mother. I never
met my mother's mother's Yeah, I never met my mother's
mother's father. They were the Williams family in the Tyler
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True era. But he did that, He made a bunch
of babies and then scooted town, dirty dog. But my
mother's mother's mother, who I call big Mama, my great grandmother,
My grandmother would tell the story that when she was little,
her father would beat Big Mo and he'd get a
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little violent, not little, he'd get violent with the kids.
So she'd take the kids and go out in the
woods and be at night and he'd be drunk, probably
on the cheap stuff that's hard, and they'd go out
in the woods and hide that way he couldn't come
out and get them and have to sleep till the
next morning when they could come back in, and he
gets over it up.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's a different time.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You do that today and somebody is calling the cops
and somebody's going to jail. But I think that happened.
I think that happened more often than we would expect
back in the day. Could work on that Ramon, by
the way, you work well on nine days down twenty
two pounds. I think that extra weight was holding you back. Pat,
you're on, Michael Berry, shall go.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Ahead, Michael, Pat Bradley and Corpus CHRISTI text Us veteran
Marine Corps veteran in eighty sixty to nineties. I hope
I can hold us together. But I just came from
the debaky DA Hospital and I just got to give
those people a huge shout out for serving the veterans.
I've never been in a place that's tastes such good
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care of me in these other veterans. I just hope.
I hope Senator Cruz, is Morgan the Trail and my
Congressman Michael Cloud are listening because they need to know.
I know they don't always hear it, but the DA
Hospital in Houston is incredible.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
What are you getting treatment for? Let us catch it
back up. I'm not positive it's a violation, but it's
I'll get in trouble if we don't, so just hang
hang tight. I get it, you're emotional. You should be
hold on just a moment. Nah, it was an ssh word. No,
we can't, No, you can't give a second. Tell me
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when it's caught up. All right, here we are, so
pat Tell me what you're tell me what you're getting
treatment for. You said you're sixty two, right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'm sixty two. I was just diagnosed with P sixteen
human papaloma virus, squamous cell cancer.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Of my tonsil, of your tonsils?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Okay, yes, And I also want to give a shout
out to Governor Rick Perry. He's been an advocate. Okay,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, Ramon says, we don't do shout outs, but you
can give a point of personal recognize.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Ohay, he I know he just did that. I be
game deal and that came from him and he helped
get that done. Also, I remember when he tried to
get this human type of omavirus vaccine going and there
was too much sexual uh st stigmatizing about it, like
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he was gonna it was allowing teenagers to have sex.
I'll tell you what, it can protect a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
The last twenty four hours, and he has said as
of this morning that he will endorse today in the
Senate race Paxton versus Cornet. The media has assigned the
time twelve thirty to one. I don't know that that
will't necessarily be the time. When he does it. We
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will speak on the matter of this evening on the
Evening Show. If in fact he has done so. I
will say it'll be interesting to see, first of all,
be interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Who he endorses. I hope he endorses Paxton. I do.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I don't know that it's going to affect the race
that much either way. That's not to say that people
don't love the president, respect the president, trust the president.
I think that the people who are voting for Cornin
are largely never Trumpers or people who will always support
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the water down Republican because they think that's the only
person who can win in November. These are the people
that would have voted for would have supported Jeb Bush
in twenty sixteen. These are the people who voted These
are people who supported Nicki Haley, and let's not forget
there were a lot of them in twenty twenty four.
I think those people will still vote for Cornyn to
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the extent they vote. I think Paxton supporters are going
to support Paxton even if Trump were to support Cornyn.
If that happens, I'm just modeling it out the different
options of what could happen. I think a Paxton supporter
is going to support Paxson, and if Trump supports Paxton,
they're excited.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It doesn't change their vote.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I think people that aren't voting for Paxton are voting
for Cornyn, and Trump's not going to change that. If
you're voting for corn there's a reason you're voting for Cornyn,
and you don't respect Donald Trump's opinion anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
If you're voting for.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Paxton and Trump endorses Cornyn, I think most people understand
that that's a deal that's cut. That's not who he
would like to see. He doesn't like corn and Corny
doesn't like him. By the way, Paxton has been loyal
to his agenda and a guy that he has commended
many times for the work he's done. So whatever that
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endorsement is, I think, coming this late, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I don't know how much influence it has.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I hope it's for Paxton, but I think the race
is still winnable for Paxton. If it's not for Paxton,
and if it is for Paxton, I feel like it's
almost more of a relief that it's not for Cornin.
I think that Paxton's going to win either way. When
you look at the numbers of a Republican Party primary,
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which is what we had back in March, and then
a runoff, you will notice a precipitous drop in the
number of people who vote. And I'll give you a
great example twenty twelve, when Ted Cruz started that race,
he started with two percent name Ida, not two percent
support per name id. He was running against David Deohurst.
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It's hard to put into perspective what an uphill battle
that was. I was very, very involved in that race,
and I didn't know that we could win the race,
but it was a race worth running. That's why when
people will say to me, when I'll say I'm voting
for this race.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
He's got to win.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
My three heroes in life are Robert E. Lee, Davy Crockett,
and Jesus Christ. I don't mind a guy making the
ultimate sacrifice for a cause. When you say, as your
argument for why I shouldn't do what I'm doing that
my guy might not win, that doesn't mean anything to me.
I don't wear the jersey of the team that won
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the Super Bowl of the year before. So people will
think that I got it right. That's not who in
what I do. I take pride in doing what I
consider to be the most principal thing, even if and
especially if it's an uphill battle. And then when you win,
oh man, there's a real glory to that. You don't
have to win everyone because you did what was right.
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And the people who do win because they put their
finger to the win and figure out what they think
is going to make a difference. There's no real ever
joy and pride in having taken on the battle for
people like that. But when you study the numbers, go
back to Dewhurst versus Cruise. Cruise campaign was gaining, gaining, gaining,
gaining the whole time. Newhurst was the sitting lieutenant governor.
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He had never lost an election. He was fabulously rich,
and he was willing to pour a bunch of his
own money, and as the sitting lieutenant governor, he got he.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Raised a bunch of money.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So the Cruise campaign had to win, starting with no
name idea a lot less money against an incumbent, even
though it was a US Senate seed, an already elected
senator who had been giving money to women's groups all
over the state going into the runoff. When Cruz made
the runoff against Dewhurst. Newhurst led going into the runoff,
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but everyone knew the race was over, including Newhurst, and
the reason was the people who show up in a
primary runoff is far fewer than show up in November.
Even among Republics. A Republican primary voter who votes in
the primary shows up and votes, They get their sticker,
they go back to the office. You know old Bob,
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he's the CFO. He he always votes. Bob must have
voted today, Yes, yes, I voted. Uh huh, I voted.
Bob is your country club Republican. He's a good, loyal voter.
He thought Rodney would make a swell president. And he
thinks Pence is a good fellow. And he shows up
and votes, and he understands that the Democrats are bad,
but it's not talk bad about him. Must be nice
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about the whole thing. And he votes, and he votes
in the primary, and he goes on his own way,
and he worries. He worries about this populism, He worries
about this this maga and these Trump trends and his
packs and he worries about how uncivilized it's all become.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He'd really like it to be civil We all just.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Get a long and he'd really like a return to
civility and and and you know, everyone get along.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And things be nice.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
And this is very establishment because he wants the stock
He wants no stock market volatility, he wants no political volatility.
He wants nothing to be upended. He wants everything. He's
okay to lose a race, He's okay to lose an issue.
He's okay to make a sacrifice. He's okay for a
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bad person to be put in a position of power.
Let's just not make us think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
We don't make issues about things. We don't fight these
things out. Those people don't show up in runoffs. That's
the point. There'll be a big drop off. The Paxton
supporter shows back up and runoff the corn And supporter doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
This is the Michael Mary Show.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yes, of course, that is Houston's own Kenney Rogers. I
pushed him singing a song that hit in nineteen sixty
eight before he even entered the country. But today we
celebrate the eighty sixth birthday of the late Great Mickey
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Newberry born Milton Simms Newberry Junior. Mickey Newberry tried to
make it as a singer, joined the Air Force, spent
four years, came out again, tried to make it as
a front man, couldn't do it. And then starting in
nineteen sixty four, he's releasing songs. He's writing songs. The
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guy is an incredible talent. He's a modern day poet
of incredible skill.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Nineteen sixty six, country star.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Don Gibson had a top ten hit with Mickey Newberry's
Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings, a song that you probably don't
remember from Don Gibson, but you do remember from Tom Jones,
who made it a massive hit. It would be two
years later that at one time Mickey Newberry had four
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top five songs across four different charts. It's the only
time that has ever been done before or since the
late great Mickey Newberry.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
From Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Birthday today, To my knowledge, there is not one thing
named for him. One of the greats of music, which
is art from right here in our little community. But
no reason we would name anything for him. We're too
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busy falling all over ourselves to name yet something else
for Sheila Jackson, Lie or Sylvester Turner or Lee Brown
or Lewis Kutrez former mayor. There's a terminal name for him,
Bush Airport. Oh, we do love our politicians, don't we?
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We do so very much love our politicians. One of
the greatest bands of all time, cult following MTV legends
decades of touring and making music and bringing joy and
advancing the arts. A three man band with a sound
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as big as an orchestra zz Top. Is there one
thing named for them? Not to my knowledge. Johnny Nash,
the man who discovered Bob Marley, the man who got
him his recording contract with Island, the man who got
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him movies in Sweden. Johnny Nash raised poor in the
Houston communities. Follow there was a limo driver for hire,
livery man who made it onto national TV and then
international music, bringing a reggae vibe and feel to the
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United States that opened the door for Bob Marley.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Is there anything name for him? Why would we bother?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
We must teach young black kids that the path to
success is through Rodney Ellis's grooming, worked for Christian Minifree,
worked for Lena Hidalgo. Hell It's worked for a lot
of people. Then you get on Houston City Council and
torment John Whitmyer under the promise that you'll be the
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mayor withhold funding for this, criticize him on that so
that Rodney Ellis can control the mayor as well as
he did with Sylvester Turner. These are warped values, man
warped values. Indeed, they are not the bedrock of a
great society, a successful, accomplished society. Those people you name
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things after. You don't want your kid to grow up
to be that. You don't want a society full of those.
What are you gonna do? What are you gonna make?
What are you gonna create? What are you going to export?
What are you gonna say of these people? They were a.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Proud defender of all the people? Were they?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Were they? What kind of things did these people say?
What are they actually known for? How did they spend
their day? Did they actually make lives better? Did they
improve upon anything? Steve Jobs created a little piece of
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technology that more people than at any time in history,
carry in their back pocket, front pocket, or hand at
all times. They simply cannot be separated from it. It
is so powerful, it is more powerful this device than
the technology that was available to NASA scientists when they
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sent a man to the moon. You carry it in
your pocket, every bit of music you could ever want
to listen to, communication with anybody anywhere in the world
at any time, a better quality photo than you can
buy in most camera stores, and an invitation to all
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the great creative sorts to add what we came to
know as an app so that you can alter a
photo or do any number of other things.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You have none of the rest.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
You don't have ride sharing, you don't have recipes sharing,
you don't have photo enhancing, you don't have access to
the internet in your pocket without the iPhone.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, Michael Weed have been better off. We didn't have
all them.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Thanks, Please don't speak in bumpy please please don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Steve Jobs obviously wasn't from Houston. Elon Musk obviously not
from Houston. But who do we celebrate? That which you celebrate,
you will get more copycats off. That's why you see
inner city kids all want to be rappers and professional
athletes and singers because that's all they know, that's all
that is heralded.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or drug dealers.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Because that's who they see, kids replicate, They imitate that
which they see, that which other people respect. They want
to be a person for whom respect is doled out,
for whom the seas are parted. When they walk down
the hallway or down the street, or into the church
or into a home.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
They want to be.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like that that which you honor.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's what people are going to want to be like.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
The creation of new statues and the destruction of old
ones is very important to the liberal mindset. That's why
so many Confederate heroes had to be destroyed. That's why
you had to remove in what happened we said it would. Oh,
they'll start with a legend, a hero and honorable man
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who served in the Confederate War on the Confederate side.
But they'll end up with Gandhi.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And they did.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
They tore down Gandhi statues, they tore down Lincoln statues.
It's all about this is exactly what isis did, by
the way, with Christian statues in Syria. It's the same
mindset Michael.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Berry taken from us far too soon. Dusty Hill, born
on this.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Day seventy seven years ago, played bass, keyboard, vocals. Born
Joseph Michael Hill in course, Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's incredible.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
The longevity of that band, absolutely amazing when you think
about how different the world was when they hit the scene.
There's that photo of them that will get posted. I'll
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see it at least once a year of them performing
at the Little Cypress Marysville High School and I don't know,
sixty nine seventy seventy one, whatever it was. And they
don't have their beards, which is just odd to see
them without their beards. The beards are just one of
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many things that are quirky about them. And then of
course Frank Beard, the drummer, the guy without a beard,
the guy named Beard doesn't have a beard.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But the sheer longevity. I got to see them play Red.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Rocks this summer and to see the audience of people
who clearly were not born when the band began having one.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Heck of a good time. It made me happy. Cynthia,
you're on Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Go ahead, sweetheart, Michael, nice to talk to you. I
wanted to tell you I went to junior high and
high school with Mickey Newberry.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh well, and I will.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Plead innocent, I will no, I will plead guilty. I
did not realize because I got married and started a
family and all the stuff that you do when you're
out of high school. And I did not realize that
he was famous until I heard you on the radio
and I thought, well, surely that's not the Mickey Newberry
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I knew, but it is up and looked his pictures
up and all of that. But he was really a
nice kid, and we just screw up on the North side.
And I imagine he was like maybe most of us
that in that era. I went to Burbank Junior High
and Sam Houston High School when it was a brand
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new school, and we didn't realize that we actually had
grown up on the wrong side of town. We were grown.
But I thank you for let me find out about it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Isn't that crazy, I know it is.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know, he's he's considered in music circles one of
the all time greats, and here you were alongside him.
By the way, there's probably some other people in your
life that went on to be the CEO of a
major company, or you know, have fourteen kids, or you know,
win an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You just don't know, You just don't I know what Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh Sam Houston High School. We started in that school
when it was brand new, and we were the first
class to graduate three years and uh and my husband
and I went to several of the class reunions over
the years and uh uh you know, saw people and
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of course I'm eighty five, so there's not a whole
lot of them left anymore. But it was, you know,
we had a great time in high school. And uh,
I was, you know, I just had an ordinary family upbringing,
my you know, Moum and dad, and uh, I didn't
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have a lot of trauma in my life and or
anything in that young age, you know. And uh, I
was talking to some children, some kids, and they were
talking about how how long people had been married. And
at the time I had been married about fifty nine years.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And they were asking, well, how long have you been married?
How long have you been married? And I said fifty
nine years. And this little girl looked at me with
his eyes squinched, and you could see your little fields turning.
And she said to the same man, and I thought, oh,
poor little kids, they don't understand nowadays people have so
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many marriages. But I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well, and she also doesn't understand that at some point,
once you've got him good and broken in, you don't
want to start over with another one.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, that's true. That's true. And my husband and I
were married sixty two years when he.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Passed sixty two years about five years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Uh huh wow, yeap.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And what was his name?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
He was a lot of people, if there's any of
them still alive with if they grew up on the
North Side, they probably knew Jack Rokie and uh uh
he was. He was. He did a lot of things.
He was very smart. He was very gifted in certain areas, uh,
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mechanically and all. And he had wound up with three patents.
And uh, we had an interesting life. We didn't make
a lot of money, but we we did a lot
of unusual things.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
He was a pilot.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
He did all kinds of neat things. He was. He
was very smart.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What do you do for a living?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, what was our last business that we had? Uh
we manufactured a gardening product, and he in in our
process of learning how to garden. He was unhappy with
there were no good tomato cages that support your tomato plants.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And he came up with.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
An idea For one, it was cylindrical the rings, and
it was large because if you've got tomato plants in Texas,
they get very large. And it folded up a unique
way so it was easy to store it. You didn't
have all these and it was called the Texas Tomato Cage.
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And we had that business for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Did it make any more?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And uh yeah, we made some a little. It wasn't
a great but we made a good living it during
that time and we sold it when he finally got
he had he was sick, and I kept it going
as long as I could and help, you know, taking
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care of him.
It's that time. Time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael darry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I only wanted y'all entire eighteen my my mama head
of the man's world, so I had to wait till
I was twenty people.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
This is a man's.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The man world.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let us a man's.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, the man world. But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Without a woman a good the man world.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You see, Mad me the cars.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
To take us over the room the means world.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Mad made the tree in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
To carry the heaven Lord.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Mad made the electoral hate in the main world. You
take us out of the dog. Mad made the bottom
the wall like nor made the ark the means world.
As a man's a man man's live, mean world.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It mightn't be mad as a lot of women are there
the mean world.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man thinks about a little bit of baby girls.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Had a baby boys.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man make them happy I mean world.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Because men made them times.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The main world.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And how the man make everything everything?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You can't the main world? Do you know that man
makes money?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Goodbye the other man?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
The man the mean world was not a thing about
a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
All that I mean world.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
You find some really really strong characters. He laughs, who
grew up at a different time when life was extra hard.
Women who grew up had children at a young age,
(02:58):
struggle through that. They didn't have the resources they have.
Now husband dies, leaves them, and she's got to figure
out a way to make a living and take care
of those kids, because the kids were always left with her.
Maybe there's a bunch of them, maybe it's a small town,
they're out in the country, she no transportation. All of
a sudden, you gottaigure out how to keep these kids
(03:18):
from starving. Those women who made it through that them
strong women, strong women black and white. Did you get
some of those old black women from that era, that time,
that life living like that, surviving raising those kids, some
(03:41):
of them going to be phenomenally professionally successful, going to
stable lives, going to be contrue.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's amazing. It's a different time.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's hard to believe in a generation or two or three,
how life would have been different for that person. And
the things they have said. I don't know ADDIE's story,
but when her mother said it's a man's world, I
get to sense it that's kind of what her mother
(04:13):
was talking about. My grandmother used to tell me the
story of her mother, who we call big Mama.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
No we did.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I know that's not a white people thing to call,
but that's what we call my great grandmother, my mother's
my sorry said so, my mother's mother's mother. I never
met my mother's mother's Yeah, I never met my mother's
mother's father. They were the Williams family in the Tyler
(04:41):
True era. But he did that, He made a bunch
of babies and then scooted town, dirty dog. But my
mother's mother's mother, who I call big Mama, my great grandmother,
My grandmother would tell the story that when she was little,
her father would beat Big Mo and he'd get a
(05:02):
little violent, not little, he'd get violent with the kids.
So she'd take the kids and go out in the
woods and be at night and he'd be drunk, probably
on the cheap stuff that's hard, and they'd go out
in the woods and hide that way he couldn't come
out and get them and have to sleep till the
next morning when they could come back in, and he
gets over it up.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's a different time.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You do that today and somebody is calling the cops
and somebody's going to jail. But I think that happened.
I think that happened more often than we would expect
back in the day. Could work on that Ramon, by
the way, you work well on nine days down twenty
two pounds. I think that extra weight was holding you back. Pat,
you're on, Michael Berry, shall go.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Ahead, Michael, Pat Bradley and Corpus CHRISTI text Us veteran
Marine Corps veteran in eighty sixty to nineties. I hope
I can hold us together. But I just came from
the debaky DA Hospital and I just got to give
those people a huge shout out for serving the veterans.
I've never been in a place that's tastes such good
(06:06):
care of me in these other veterans. I just hope.
I hope Senator Cruz, is Morgan the Trail and my
Congressman Michael Cloud are listening because they need to know.
I know they don't always hear it, but the DA
Hospital in Houston is incredible.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
What are you getting treatment for? Let us catch it
back up. I'm not positive it's a violation, but it's
I'll get in trouble if we don't, so just hang
hang tight. I get it, you're emotional. You should be
hold on just a moment. Nah, it was an ssh word. No,
we can't, No, you can't give a second. Tell me
(06:43):
when it's caught up. All right, here we are, so
pat Tell me what you're tell me what you're getting
treatment for. You said you're sixty two, right.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'm sixty two. I was just diagnosed with P sixteen
human papaloma virus, squamous cell cancer.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Of my tonsil, of your tonsils?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Okay, yes, And I also want to give a shout
out to Governor Rick Perry. He's been an advocate. Okay,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No, Ramon says, we don't do shout outs, but you
can give a point of personal recognize.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Ohay, he I know he just did that. I be
game deal and that came from him and he helped
get that done. Also, I remember when he tried to
get this human type of omavirus vaccine going and there
was too much sexual uh st stigmatizing about it, like
(07:35):
he was gonna it was allowing teenagers to have sex.
I'll tell you what, it can protect a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
The last twenty four hours, and he has said as
of this morning that he will endorse today in the
Senate race Paxton versus Cornet. The media has assigned the
time twelve thirty to one. I don't know that that
will't necessarily be the time. When he does it. We
(08:11):
will speak on the matter of this evening on the
Evening Show. If in fact he has done so. I
will say it'll be interesting to see, first of all,
be interesting to see.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Who he endorses. I hope he endorses Paxton. I do.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I don't know that it's going to affect the race
that much either way. That's not to say that people
don't love the president, respect the president, trust the president.
I think that the people who are voting for Cornin
are largely never Trumpers or people who will always support
(08:54):
the water down Republican because they think that's the only
person who can win in November. These are the people
that would have voted for would have supported Jeb Bush
in twenty sixteen. These are the people who voted These
are people who supported Nicki Haley, and let's not forget
there were a lot of them in twenty twenty four.
I think those people will still vote for Cornyn to
(09:18):
the extent they vote. I think Paxton supporters are going
to support Paxton even if Trump were to support Cornyn.
If that happens, I'm just modeling it out the different
options of what could happen. I think a Paxton supporter
is going to support Paxson, and if Trump supports Paxton,
they're excited.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It doesn't change their vote.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I think people that aren't voting for Paxton are voting
for Cornyn, and Trump's not going to change that. If
you're voting for corn there's a reason you're voting for Cornyn,
and you don't respect Donald Trump's opinion anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
If you're voting for.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Paxton and Trump endorses Cornyn, I think most people understand
that that's a deal that's cut. That's not who he
would like to see. He doesn't like corn and Corny
doesn't like him. By the way, Paxton has been loyal
to his agenda and a guy that he has commended
many times for the work he's done. So whatever that
(10:18):
endorsement is, I think, coming this late, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I don't know how much influence it has.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I hope it's for Paxton, but I think the race
is still winnable for Paxton. If it's not for Paxton,
and if it is for Paxton, I feel like it's
almost more of a relief that it's not for Cornin.
I think that Paxton's going to win either way. When
you look at the numbers of a Republican Party primary,
(10:43):
which is what we had back in March, and then
a runoff, you will notice a precipitous drop in the
number of people who vote. And I'll give you a
great example twenty twelve, when Ted Cruz started that race,
he started with two percent name Ida, not two percent
support per name id. He was running against David Deohurst.
(11:04):
It's hard to put into perspective what an uphill battle
that was. I was very, very involved in that race,
and I didn't know that we could win the race,
but it was a race worth running. That's why when
people will say to me, when I'll say I'm voting
for this race.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
He's got to win.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
My three heroes in life are Robert E. Lee, Davy Crockett,
and Jesus Christ. I don't mind a guy making the
ultimate sacrifice for a cause. When you say, as your
argument for why I shouldn't do what I'm doing that
my guy might not win, that doesn't mean anything to me.
I don't wear the jersey of the team that won
(11:42):
the Super Bowl of the year before. So people will
think that I got it right. That's not who in
what I do. I take pride in doing what I
consider to be the most principal thing, even if and
especially if it's an uphill battle. And then when you win,
oh man, there's a real glory to that. You don't
have to win everyone because you did what was right.
(12:04):
And the people who do win because they put their
finger to the win and figure out what they think
is going to make a difference. There's no real ever
joy and pride in having taken on the battle for
people like that. But when you study the numbers, go
back to Dewhurst versus Cruise. Cruise campaign was gaining, gaining, gaining,
gaining the whole time. Newhurst was the sitting lieutenant governor.
(12:28):
He had never lost an election. He was fabulously rich,
and he was willing to pour a bunch of his
own money, and as the sitting lieutenant governor, he got he.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Raised a bunch of money.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So the Cruise campaign had to win, starting with no
name idea a lot less money against an incumbent, even
though it was a US Senate seed, an already elected
senator who had been giving money to women's groups all
over the state going into the runoff. When Cruz made
the runoff against Dewhurst. Newhurst led going into the runoff,
(13:03):
but everyone knew the race was over, including Newhurst, and
the reason was the people who show up in a
primary runoff is far fewer than show up in November.
Even among Republics. A Republican primary voter who votes in
the primary shows up and votes, They get their sticker,
they go back to the office. You know old Bob,
(13:24):
he's the CFO. He he always votes. Bob must have
voted today, Yes, yes, I voted. Uh huh, I voted.
Bob is your country club Republican. He's a good, loyal voter.
He thought Rodney would make a swell president. And he
thinks Pence is a good fellow. And he shows up
and votes, and he understands that the Democrats are bad,
but it's not talk bad about him. Must be nice
(13:44):
about the whole thing. And he votes, and he votes
in the primary, and he goes on his own way,
and he worries. He worries about this populism, He worries
about this this maga and these Trump trends and his
packs and he worries about how uncivilized it's all become.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He'd really like it to be civil We all just.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Get a long and he'd really like a return to
civility and and and you know, everyone get along.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And things be nice.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
And this is very establishment because he wants the stock
He wants no stock market volatility, he wants no political volatility.
He wants nothing to be upended. He wants everything. He's
okay to lose a race, He's okay to lose an issue.
He's okay to make a sacrifice. He's okay for a
(14:27):
bad person to be put in a position of power.
Let's just not make us think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
We don't make issues about things. We don't fight these
things out. Those people don't show up in runoffs. That's
the point. There'll be a big drop off. The Paxton
supporter shows back up and runoff the corn And supporter doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
This is the Michael Mary Show.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yes, of course, that is Houston's own Kenney Rogers. I
pushed him singing a song that hit in nineteen sixty
eight before he even entered the country. But today we
celebrate the eighty sixth birthday of the late Great Mickey
(15:15):
Newberry born Milton Simms Newberry Junior. Mickey Newberry tried to
make it as a singer, joined the Air Force, spent
four years, came out again, tried to make it as
a front man, couldn't do it. And then starting in
nineteen sixty four, he's releasing songs. He's writing songs. The
(15:36):
guy is an incredible talent. He's a modern day poet
of incredible skill.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Nineteen sixty six, country star.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Don Gibson had a top ten hit with Mickey Newberry's
Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings, a song that you probably don't
remember from Don Gibson, but you do remember from Tom Jones,
who made it a massive hit. It would be two
years later that at one time Mickey Newberry had four
(16:08):
top five songs across four different charts. It's the only
time that has ever been done before or since the
late great Mickey Newberry.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
From Houston.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Birthday today, To my knowledge, there is not one thing
named for him. One of the greats of music, which
is art from right here in our little community. But
no reason we would name anything for him. We're too
(16:46):
busy falling all over ourselves to name yet something else
for Sheila Jackson, Lie or Sylvester Turner or Lee Brown
or Lewis Kutrez former mayor. There's a terminal name for him,
Bush Airport. Oh, we do love our politicians, don't we?
(17:09):
We do so very much love our politicians. One of
the greatest bands of all time, cult following MTV legends
decades of touring and making music and bringing joy and
advancing the arts. A three man band with a sound
(17:30):
as big as an orchestra zz Top. Is there one
thing named for them? Not to my knowledge. Johnny Nash,
the man who discovered Bob Marley, the man who got
him his recording contract with Island, the man who got
(17:52):
him movies in Sweden. Johnny Nash raised poor in the
Houston communities. Follow there was a limo driver for hire,
livery man who made it onto national TV and then
international music, bringing a reggae vibe and feel to the
(18:13):
United States that opened the door for Bob Marley.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Is there anything name for him? Why would we bother?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
We must teach young black kids that the path to
success is through Rodney Ellis's grooming, worked for Christian Minifree,
worked for Lena Hidalgo. Hell It's worked for a lot
of people. Then you get on Houston City Council and
torment John Whitmyer under the promise that you'll be the
(18:42):
mayor withhold funding for this, criticize him on that so
that Rodney Ellis can control the mayor as well as
he did with Sylvester Turner. These are warped values, man
warped values. Indeed, they are not the bedrock of a
great society, a successful, accomplished society. Those people you name
(19:06):
things after. You don't want your kid to grow up
to be that. You don't want a society full of those.
What are you gonna do? What are you gonna make?
What are you gonna create? What are you going to export?
What are you gonna say of these people? They were a.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Proud defender of all the people? Were they?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Were they? What kind of things did these people say?
What are they actually known for? How did they spend
their day? Did they actually make lives better? Did they
improve upon anything? Steve Jobs created a little piece of
(19:44):
technology that more people than at any time in history,
carry in their back pocket, front pocket, or hand at
all times. They simply cannot be separated from it. It
is so powerful, it is more powerful this device than
the technology that was available to NASA scientists when they
(20:06):
sent a man to the moon. You carry it in
your pocket, every bit of music you could ever want
to listen to, communication with anybody anywhere in the world
at any time, a better quality photo than you can
buy in most camera stores, and an invitation to all
(20:28):
the great creative sorts to add what we came to
know as an app so that you can alter a
photo or do any number of other things.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You have none of the rest.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
You don't have ride sharing, you don't have recipes sharing,
you don't have photo enhancing, you don't have access to
the internet in your pocket without the iPhone.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, Michael Weed have been better off. We didn't have
all them.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Thanks, Please don't speak in bumpy please please don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Steve Jobs obviously wasn't from Houston. Elon Musk obviously not
from Houston. But who do we celebrate? That which you celebrate,
you will get more copycats off. That's why you see
inner city kids all want to be rappers and professional
athletes and singers because that's all they know, that's all
that is heralded.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or drug dealers.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Because that's who they see, kids replicate, They imitate that
which they see, that which other people respect. They want
to be a person for whom respect is doled out,
for whom the seas are parted. When they walk down
the hallway or down the street, or into the church
or into a home.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
They want to be.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like that that which you honor.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's what people are going to want to be like.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
The creation of new statues and the destruction of old
ones is very important to the liberal mindset. That's why
so many Confederate heroes had to be destroyed. That's why
you had to remove in what happened we said it would. Oh,
they'll start with a legend, a hero and honorable man
(22:22):
who served in the Confederate War on the Confederate side.
But they'll end up with Gandhi.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And they did.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
They tore down Gandhi statues, they tore down Lincoln statues.
It's all about this is exactly what isis did, by
the way, with Christian statues in Syria. It's the same
mindset Michael.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Berry taken from us far too soon. Dusty Hill, born
on this.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Day seventy seven years ago, played bass, keyboard, vocals. Born
Joseph Michael Hill in course, Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's incredible.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
The longevity of that band, absolutely amazing when you think
about how different the world was when they hit the scene.
There's that photo of them that will get posted. I'll
(23:34):
see it at least once a year of them performing
at the Little Cypress Marysville High School and I don't know,
sixty nine seventy seventy one, whatever it was. And they
don't have their beards, which is just odd to see
them without their beards. The beards are just one of
(23:56):
many things that are quirky about them. And then of
course Frank Beard, the drummer, the guy without a beard,
the guy named Beard doesn't have a beard.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But the sheer longevity. I got to see them play Red.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Rocks this summer and to see the audience of people
who clearly were not born when the band began having one.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Heck of a good time. It made me happy. Cynthia,
you're on Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Go ahead, sweetheart, Michael, nice to talk to you. I
wanted to tell you I went to junior high and
high school with Mickey Newberry.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh well, and I will.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Plead innocent, I will no, I will plead guilty. I
did not realize because I got married and started a
family and all the stuff that you do when you're
out of high school. And I did not realize that
he was famous until I heard you on the radio
and I thought, well, surely that's not the Mickey Newberry
(24:57):
I knew, but it is up and looked his pictures
up and all of that. But he was really a
nice kid, and we just screw up on the North side.
And I imagine he was like maybe most of us
that in that era. I went to Burbank Junior High
and Sam Houston High School when it was a brand
(25:18):
new school, and we didn't realize that we actually had
grown up on the wrong side of town. We were grown.
But I thank you for let me find out about it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Isn't that crazy, I know it is.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know, he's he's considered in music circles one of
the all time greats, and here you were alongside him.
By the way, there's probably some other people in your
life that went on to be the CEO of a
major company, or you know, have fourteen kids, or you know,
win an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You just don't know, You just don't I know what Cynthia.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh Sam Houston High School. We started in that school
when it was brand new, and we were the first
class to graduate three years and uh and my husband
and I went to several of the class reunions over
the years and uh uh you know, saw people and
(26:23):
of course I'm eighty five, so there's not a whole
lot of them left anymore. But it was, you know,
we had a great time in high school. And uh,
I was, you know, I just had an ordinary family upbringing,
my you know, Moum and dad, and uh, I didn't
(26:46):
have a lot of trauma in my life and or
anything in that young age, you know. And uh, I
was talking to some children, some kids, and they were
talking about how how long people had been married. And
at the time I had been married about fifty nine years.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And they were asking, well, how long have you been married?
How long have you been married? And I said fifty
nine years. And this little girl looked at me with
his eyes squinched, and you could see your little fields turning.
And she said to the same man, and I thought, oh,
poor little kids, they don't understand nowadays people have so
(27:31):
many marriages. But I thought that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well, and she also doesn't understand that at some point,
once you've got him good and broken in, you don't
want to start over with another one.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, that's true. That's true. And my husband and I
were married sixty two years when he.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Passed sixty two years about five years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Uh huh wow, yeap.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
And what was his name?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
He was a lot of people, if there's any of
them still alive with if they grew up on the
North Side, they probably knew Jack Rokie and uh uh
he was. He was. He did a lot of things.
He was very smart. He was very gifted in certain areas, uh,
(28:22):
mechanically and all. And he had wound up with three patents.
And uh, we had an interesting life. We didn't make
a lot of money, but we we did a lot
of unusual things.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
He was a pilot.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
He did all kinds of neat things. He was. He
was very smart.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What do you do for a living?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, what was our last business that we had? Uh
we manufactured a gardening product, and he in in our
process of learning how to garden. He was unhappy with
there were no good tomato cages that support your tomato plants.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And he came up with.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
An idea For one, it was cylindrical the rings, and
it was large because if you've got tomato plants in Texas,
they get very large. And it folded up a unique
way so it was easy to store it. You didn't
have all these and it was called the Texas Tomato Cage.
(29:37):
And we had that business for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Did it make any more?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And uh yeah, we made some a little. It wasn't
a great but we made a good living it during
that time and we sold it when he finally got
he had he was sick, and I kept it going
as long as I could and help, you know, taking
(30:02):
care of him.
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