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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load load.
So Michael Verie Show is on the air. I had
never been to love Texas Odd right much as I
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love Mike Davis. I'd never been to a Texas Tech
home game. I was at the famous Tech versus University
of Texas game where where Crabtree snatched that pass out
of the air and scored and brought Texas Tech up
to number two in the country. I was, like many people,
with the biggest fan of my own mind of the
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pirate there ever was. I've always watched Texas Tech from
a distance. We got an email years after we started
on the air from BJS. The Great Quarterback just went
in there in their Hall of Fame this past November.
And I've had a lot of friends from Tech over
the years. Grant Patterson, who's one of our top sellers,
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is a very proud Tech alum. I've told the story
that the two thousand election, there was a group of
us that were on the strike force and we got
tickets to everything at the Bush inauguration in two thousand
and one, and I remember it was a snowy, icy
night and my wife and I were driving along at
ten miles an hour, just scared to death. We were
going to skid off the road. And when you walked
into this big facility, the Texas Room was the most
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exclusive group, and that that was the campaign's kind of
inner circle. That's where I told you I met Daryl
Royal and Troy Aikman and Tony Dorsay. It was amazing
Rogers Talbott. But as you entered the premier group that
had bought out the kind of the lobby of the
place was Texas Tech, and they were guns up in it.
And I realized, these guys from Tech, they're serious. And
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I have watched systematically the image of Texas Tech improve
year after year after year, and they're hungry for it.
We saw it on the football field this past year
when John Seller's, Cody Campbell, and my dear friend Gary Peterson,
the three of them combined to create the largest nil
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account in the country. They went and got good talent,
they got a great coach. This guy's fantastic, and the
team was just wonderful. They've got a beautiful new stadium.
The student experience is amazing. They've done it with basketball,
they've done it with girls softball. Gary Peterson and I
watched last year the girl Softball Championship, and they would
have won it saving it except for the fact that
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their star pitcher had pitched too many innings. She was
just wore out. But Texas Tech has been on an
upward trajectory, I think, faster than any university that I
can think of. They have also during that time made
very public statements about their political positions with regard to education.
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We are not going to be a left wing institution.
We're going to be an academic institution, and we're not
going to teach the nonsense political correctness. We're going to
teach history and science and mathematics the way it always
has been. I would argue Texas Tech is on an incredible,
incredible run. They're raising a lot of money, insane amounts
of money, and not just for their sporting programs. They
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have the Mark Lanier, who will be our guest next
week law school, the fellow that won this massive lawsuit
against Facebook and Google saying you bastards, what you're doing
is hooking kids on social media in a way you
lied about that is very unhealthy and they're left unprotected
and look at the results. Mark Lanier is not the
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first big judgment he's ever made. But he's a very
proud Texas Tack alumnus. I think they named the law
school after him, Ramona, is that right? Yeah? Anyway, So
a lot of momentum, amazing things, and they brought in
Brandon Creighton, who has been a friend of the show
for a number of years. He is their new chancellor,
and the momentum continue because this guy's a doer. Keep
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your eye on Creighton. He's going to be even bigger
in the future. Welcome to the program, Chancellor.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's good to be with you, Michael. How's it going.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's fantastic. The bigger question is how it's going for you.
Let's start with, for instance, the kind of things that
we love to see. A partnership. I was reading about
a partnership with Nvidia that what did I see the
only non military organization to have the most advanced chip
in the nation. How does Texas Tech land that deal?
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My understanding from an inside sources, you were a big
part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, you know. I'd love to give a technical answer there,
but it sometimes it just comes down to knocking on
the door and laying out a presentation that's a fit
for you know, a collaborative effort with the private sector.
And part of my first hundred day agenda was doing
exactly that. I went to the number one market cap
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value company in the world and talk to their the
co founders. I had heard that they had a heart
for higher education, but they were frustrated with their experiences
and approaching the sort of Northeastern academic elite ivs with
opportunities to collaborate, and I wanted to make sure that
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they understood Texas Tech was ready to work with them,
and we did exactly that, and we now have their
GB three hundred new generation chips that scale forward to
soon to be the Vera Reuben release for their full
agentic AI. And as you mentioned, we have the fastest
higher performance chips of any university in the world other
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than the United States Naval Academy Postgraduate School at Monterey
with their defense contracts.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And so, what does that look like? Will y'all have
the opportunity to monetize that. Are you purely the academic
research side of that, and Nvidia takes that and monetizes that.
What does that look like from here? How does it
manifest itself?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's a great question. So we have the choice to
do both. In video. Normally, with their new generation chips.
You know there's you know, A and M and UT
in Florida as examples, they have the one hundred and
two hundred series chips that do not scale forward into
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the future. But what we have with the three hundred
chips and this new generation, and VIDIA normally keeps those
close to the vest and they sell time for the
use of those fast modeling you know, hyper performance computation
chips and that hardware to other companies for efficiencies, you know,
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six years worth of modeling on cancer research or dementia research,
or efficiencies for the Texas Electric grid at six years
worth of modeling could be done in twenty five days.
And to be first to market on those accomplishments and
to be working directly with Texas Tech, we can do both.
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We can hold a percentage of that capacity internal for
our own research, and we can generate revenue by bringing
in companies that we choose to do business with that
would like to purchase time for the use of those
fast hardware.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Let's go back to your original answer, and this is
the takeaway for universities across the country. Stop being creepy.
The private sector does not want to be dragged into
left wing, highly political, goofy, weird, perverted causes. They want
universities to be universities centers for research and innovation, places
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where people learn, places where information and analysis is developed,
and young people are growing to get their degrees and
graduate students are changing the world. And isn't it amazing
you just got back to basics and look at the
results you get. Texas Tech Chancellor Brandon Creighton is our guest.
More with him coming up. I want to go back
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to one of these women, are chief Michael Berry. I
think that there might.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Be because I've got nothing going on down there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Probably it's a nice town. I have no idea. I
had to get away, very livable town, nice size of town.
You know a lot of people who will will say
professional now a professional football team, give him into a
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tech game. But I mean people who need a professional
sports team. Okay, they're going to go live in a
in a New York, LA, Houston Vine. But if you
want a town to raise your kids in but have
everything you could ever want, that's love it I mean
it is. It is not You've got plenty of restaurants.
You got plenty of neat things. You've got air travel,
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You've got a great university there, you've got a solid economy.
Former Senator now Chancellor of Texas Tech University Brendan Creighton
with a lot of momentum, a lot of wind in
their sales is our guests. You released a policy memo
to guide a phase out of academic programs that are
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centered on sexual orientation and gender identity. According to the
memo quote, the Texas Tech University system will no longer
offer academic credentials in these fields. Anyone who's currently enrolled
can complete their degree, but we are not entering new
students matriculating new students to study sexual orientation and gender identity.
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Why do this and what has been the response?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, Michael, the response has been outstanding, you know, and
you and I have been talking a long time. Through
the years my time in the Senate and in the
legislature as a whole, I spent so much of my
time there on education and education reform. And when I
left in November after nineteen years in Capital, I had
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spent the better part of a decade on higher education
reforms and funding reforms, and part of that was a
culmination of the Senate Bill seventeen removing DEI and heavy
enforcement provisions. But the next generation of that was Senate
Built thirty seven that I'm now founding myself enforcing on
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the front lines from one of the most conservative universities
in the country. And what an opportunity to be able
to do that. Where Senate Built thirty seven deals with curriculum,
Senate Bill seventeen before it dealt with hiring this curriculum reform,
and we planned to offer what we think will be
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guidance sent a model for the nation's universities, not just
Texas universities. It's about ensuring that every course we offer
is rigorous, it's relevant, it's directly tied to preparing students
for twenty first century workforce. And you and I both
know and you've talked about it. I mean, what is
higher education going to look like in sixty months? Texas
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Tech plans to be tip of the spear in directing
that outcome, not waiting to be on the menu.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
What are other ways that returning to normalcy effect? Well,
let's talk about fundraising. I mean, you've got the three
big donations from Gary Peterson, who it should be noticed,
I think and noted. I think in his career has
given over fifty million to Texas Tech. Cody Campbell obviously
has has given an insane amount of money and his
partner John Sellers. But what are you seeing from donors
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from the past, obviously Mark Lanier, but donors from the
past who are now waking up and going, Hey, I
love my school again, or hey, I want to show
I love my school again.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, there's synergy and overlap tied to everything we're
talking about with you know, those donors that have the
affluence and the ability to give at those levels. But
when we're working on reinforcing the integrity of our curriculum
that was already best in class, and we're strengthening trust
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from the public, our families that are looking for a
higher education opportunity. We're maintaining the competitiveness we've always had.
But top rankings in law school and agriculture, the business school,
engineering or research initiatives, those donors, those alums, and really
I would say outside of the Red Raider family, what
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we're seeing in support in academics and in athletics is
record setting, and I believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
For people who would say, and I think a lot
of people do, and perhaps reasonably, that there's too much
emphasis on sports. And let's say that the Tech run
this year the greatest Hardy'll be the greatest Tech team
of all time. And I've never seen the public so
fired up, even outside Tech Nation, for this team and
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how far they could go. How does that benefit the
university beyond just the sports program.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, it's an incredible opportunity because it benefits student athletes.
And when we talk about the evolution of sports, you know,
it was controversial in the nineteen fifties when full ride
scholarships were given for athletics. It was said at that
time that it would destroy the locker room, it would
destroy the integrity of the sport, and it was just
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inconceivable to allow that to happen. Fast forward to the
last several years. I was the author in the Senate
in twenty one, in twenty twenty three, and in twenty
twenty five of the NIL legislation, as well as bringing
the academic reforms that we brought forward through the committee
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I was chairing in centered Education, and I would say
that I approached that issue with a heavy heart. You know,
I wanted to control the issue because I wanted Texas
to be an outlier in what I saw coming from
Alabama and other states that I thought was reckless on
behalf of student athletes. But back to your question, how
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is it, you know, affecting the landscape? I think, first
and foremost, since the Supreme Court ruled years ago that
student athletes should be compensated from the billions of dollars
that these institutions earned, and quite certainly the networks and
the money that they are and it's changing their lives
that these students that weren't able to stay in sports,
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which you and I both know is life saving for
many of these students and in different ways that poured
their hearts into it for so many years, all the
way to our most elite athletes at the Olympic level
that have had to sell their gold medals just to
pay expenses. And how could we as Americans even allow
that to happen. So I'm very big on college athletics
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across the board, men and women's sports, and I think
it's affected our applications. On the academic side, I think
the notoriety has been incredible, But if anything, It's just
shown what we've always known, which is Texas Tech is
where families want to send their kids for the values
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and the work ethic and the integrity that we have
what we produce and a degree of value, and we're
going to continue to advance that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What I love is that Texas Tech stands for something.
You get the sense that this university knows who and
what it is and it's unashamed of that. Can you
hang with us for just a moment?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Coming up, we will ask Brandon Creighton, who's a big
guy and a pretty healthy guy, if he were to
play one game for the Texas Tech Raiders Fred Raiders
this year, what position would it be. We have all
your formal where needs from morning suits to coordinating accessories.
Conroe native, he's a former senator. Brandon Creighton is now
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the chancellor of Texas Tech University. A really cool position
in a really cool time. There's a lot of momentum
at that school right now. Mark Lanier gave a lot
of money to the law school. The football team is
it's a top five team at any given time. They've
got the money and the alumni who care about it.
Cody Campbell, John sellers, Gary Peterson and others. They're attracting
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great talent at a time where if you're willing to
go out and do that, in the end, approve that
you're willing to go out and get talent, then you
can compete. And in the old days you just couldn't
do that. Mike Leach used to say that when he
played A and M Texas in Oklahoma, he was playing
with twenty two players on each side, eleven players on
each side of the ball, twenty two players, not one
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of whom had a scholarship offer from the school they
were playing, and often he would beat them, and that's
just a tribute to the pirate. Now they have the
opportunity to compete head to head with those teams dollar
for dollar. To me, that creates a better parody in
the sport and more fun in the sport. I realize
not everybody agrees with me. Brandon Creighton, I'm going to
ask you to give me the pitch. I took a
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tour of your great institution. I saw you the day
of the game with Gary Peterson, who is as big
a fan and tour guide as you could get. He
is a homer, as they would say, for the local team.
But tell folks and me a little bit about your
veterinary school, your law school, your medical school. The place
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is on fire and a lot of people won't know
about that. Your business school.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity to do that. Michael O. Yah.
The veterinary school that you made in first it is
not just one of the newer veteran veterinary schools in
the nation, but just over the past few years since
it launched, it now has the distinction of having the
number one passage rates in the state of Texas and
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number two passage rates in the nation, only to the
state of Washington. So what our School of Veterinary Medicine
has done in a very short period of time to
reach national acclaim has just been so exciting for the
students that it started out there.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You know this already, But in the past I would
always ask veterinarians when they really went to school, and
it was either Texas, A and M or Auburn, which
is fine, but we had a shortage of veterinarians driving
the cost of I think this is going to put
veterinarians in smaller communities. It's going to create more veterinarian
specialties into different breeds and horses and bovine and all
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of that. I think it's good for I think good
for our state's good for the country.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We absolutely needed it in Texas. We were way behind
on it. A and M had opposed the you know,
approval of it through the legislature for many years. And
you know, for larger animal care and just the broad
care that you're talking about was so needed across the state.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I know that you were a rancher. Do you still
do any ranching?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yes? Yeah, I have a place in Madisonville. I grew
up in you know, I say Conroe, but's it's cutting
shoot right outside of Conroe. Most people haven't heard of it.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But what do you have on your ranch?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
On my place? I have great Brahmin cattle. And we
grew up in a family ranching right outside of Conroe
and in southern New Mexico back and forth, my brothers
and I running horses, and we also crossbred Santa Gratudas
and Hereford cattle on our New Mexico place. So long
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line of producers in my family. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So we got the veterinary school that's doing great. The
law school.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The law school has out of four out of the
last six years won the national championship at the ABA
American Bar Association national competitions across the board. Incredible. The
bar passage rates were just released for twenty twenty five
last week, and I believe the top of the list
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for the top performance in passage rates for the country
was Stanford and Duke. I believe Harvard was number four.
Texas Tech was number thirteen in the nation. So just
an exceptional law school. You mentioned Mark Lanier. What a
great example. I mean, the attorneys that I've practiced across
the table from and on the same side of the
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equation over the years from Texas Tech always superior in
app location and street smart and just common sense and
their ability to have the highest level of confidence in
the courtroom. Many law schools, as you know, teach law
students how to be future law professors, but very few
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of them teach how to apply what they're learning. Texas
Tech at the top of the list.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And I will say my wife went to University of
Houston Law Center and South Texas College of Law long
under the leadership of the late great Gerald Trees were
also very good at that and now Tech has that reputation.
Do I know you went to ut undergrad and then
you went to Oklahoma for law school? Do they actually
give a law degree there? Is it more kind of
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a certificate?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They give a degree there? Yes? It was Oklahoma City University.
There's it's Oklahoma's SMU, their private Methodist schools. Okay, and
yes they were.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So you can still go to court. You're still an
officer of the courtinate like, you could still act like
a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I can still act like a lawyer. That's right. And
there's no sooner tied to it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So I did not realize that, Okay, I did not.
I had you down as Oklahoma. You've got nursing, You've
got medical What else is going on in Texas?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Tech?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tell me about those.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Top ten nursing program in the nation. We have two
different health sciences centers, both in Lubbock and ol Paso,
just leading in rural health care and access to care
across the state. What we offer in medicine is unmatched.
And I would just encourage every student out there that
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is has aspirations to be in the medical field to
look at our nursing school, to look at our health
Sciences Center and our cancer research and the Fox Cancer
Center that's being constructed now in al Paso. We got
the John Wayne Family Foundation away from Stanford because the
Wayne family was so tired of the typical politicians and
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the typical academic underperformance of Stanford and just California as
a whole and out of the entire nation. They chose
Texas Tech to work with for the for the rest
of their time.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That does not surprise me. His daughter lives in Nashville.
She's a lawyer. You probably know her, and sends me
emails about what I've talked about that day, and I
run around the house saying, I just got an email
fro John Wayne's daughter, which is which is pretty cool.
I have to double back on something. Brandon Creighton is
the chancellor of Texas Tech University, which has a lot
of momentum right now. It's a great institution. If your
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kids haven't thought about it, or if you're listening and
I got to tell you check out what they're doing,
you're going to be very, very impressed. Did you have
you be honest? Have you called Mark Lanier since he
won the big case against Facebook, Because let's be honest,
he needs to write another check.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know, I haven't yet, but it has come up.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And you know, he knows he's a tither, he's a pastor,
he's a tither. He knows he needs to write a check.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's a wonderful guy and he's been incredibly supportive and
yes we're going to hit him up. So without a doubt,
happy for him on this. You know, recent victory in court,
many of those under his belt and Lanaire has been
uh an incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Well, you don't want to ask for too little though,
you know, because that's the problem with ask you know
what I meant him come.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We want to come in heavy with Mark.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He needs to come correct. We all saw it. You're
all over National TV. You know, save some back for
the church. You know that's all good. You got the
big party every year, but you need to you need
to give to the Martin lan Nearer Law School. More
coming up with Brandon Creighton, including what position he'd like
to play.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You are listening to the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm not trying to put Brandon Creyton on the spot
because he's just getting his legs under him. A chancellor
at the University at Texas Tech university. But I have
to tell you a quick story. A friend of mine,
his son, wanted to work with him in his plumbing business.
His son was beginning his junior year, and he said, Dad,
I burned through my whole day. I know. I want
to come and work and run and work at your
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plumbing company and take it over the way you did
with Dad. You didn't go to college. I don't want
to go to college a smart kid. But he's just
it's not he doesn't. He doesn't see college as offering him.
He's already, you know, doing everything he needs to do
to be a licensed plumber and everything that goes with that.
So he said, how about I just do my online
education and get my high school diploma. And so my
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friend Aggie, Plumber's family, he and his wife, they start
looking at ways to do that, and the best program
they found was through Texas Tech. Where Texas Tech actually
you go through this some sort of portal and you do.
It's a self self guided high school curriculum. And if
you take out all the nonsense of high school lunch,
class changes, hair pull in, being called to the principal
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because you're fidgeting, you take everything else out and it
turns out that you can get your actual education portion done,
the real transmission of information, engaging in perspective and analysis
in a couple hours a day. And so that's where
he started doing. And he had told me at the time.
They looked around and the best program in the state
was Texas Tech University. I don't know how much you
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know about your online education this early. I'm sure you do,
but I got to tell you. I thought, you know,
as you know, uniformer state center universities are funded. I
used to be three quarters from the taxpayer and only
one quarter from tuition, so they have a responsibility to
the people paying the taxes, not just the students. And
I thought, man, that's really giving something back. That is
something to be very proud of.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
The Texas Tech Online program is best in class. I
call him, and you're right. When I was chairing Education
in the Senate, I was working with thirty four to
four year institutions and fifty community colleges, and over and
over again, from a peer category review and just from
feedback from students in the public, the Texas Tech Online
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opportunities were always top of the list. So we're going
to continue that. We're going to continue to advance it
and grow it forward. It's obviously, as you mentioned, incredibly
important for those that are developing a trade and a
skill as I did. I was a pipe fitter and
a chemical plant when I left my family ranch because
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I wanted to do something different, and I did that
for a year before I went to college. But we
want all of our you know, all of our students
and adult learners that are in developing new trades and skills.
So also understand that they, you know, their aspirations to
own own a company one day and to have many
employees and to grow the economy, that that could be
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enhanced with credentials from a university like Texas Tech, and
whether it's online or it's on campus, that those those
strengths that you would develop with what works and the
technical skills, the data literacy, the collaborative efforts, the adaptability,
all of that is included in those services.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, my view has always been that the university should
not stop at the gates of the buildings. They should
sort of bleed into the communities. And I think over
the years, Texas A and M had a great reputation
for that. Their role in the county extension agencies and
their role with the Texas Transportation Institute, their role in
agricultural research and contributing to our economy. But Texas Tech
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has been very much and I learned of this in
the last year at the front of agricultural sciences, not
just for degrees and educations as an incubator for kids,
but contributing to the state. Would you speak to that,
I know that's your background.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, So, I mean, our School of Agriculture is not
just a top program in the state or the country,
it's a top program in the world. I mean, it's
revered by the leaders in agriculture, you know, across any
different discipline and highly claimed because of that. So we're
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very proud of our College of Agriculture. It continues to grow.
As you mentioned earlier, our applications and our enrollment continue
to climb. There's a lot of notoriety with that because
of our excellence in athletics, but really as an example
for our School of Agriculture, it is a top tier
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program that is being sought by the best students in
the country and it's showing in the results for the
research that's involved there, for the producers and the businesses
that are launched out of it. And we you know,
as an example, the Balmot family that developed the milk
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and dairy across the country that are now in all
the hubs in America, and they partner with Coca Cola
and they own Core Milk and all of these different products.
I mean, that was an example of now a family
office that's valued in the billions that launched right out
of just being students at Texas Tech College of Agriculture.
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So thank you for asking about it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Well, let's double back Texas Tech Chancellor Brandon Creighton, former
State Center originally from Conroe Cutting Shoot, now leading an
institution with a lot of wind behind its sales. So
you get to play or have to play, however you
want to look at it. One game at what position
for your Red Raiders next year?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
What would that be? Oh man, that's a great question.
In football, I would say defensive back, you know, safety,
just because I try to be a nice guy every
day even though I'm determined and accomplish, but I'd love
to hit somebody on the field. Yeah, even though I'm
fifty five. And you could ask me the team that
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i'd like to play against if it was in basketball,
it'd be the number two position, the shooting guard. Shooting
guard well that at Well on our basketball team was
so accomplished at it. He's graduating and leaving us. But
defensive back and football or a number two position shooting
guard in basketball. I'd love either opportunity for a second,
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that the coaches might let me out there before they
yanked me from the game.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Well, you know, I think that you are uniquely suited
to be the chancellor of that school UH and you
are at a time where they have such momentum, and
it is so exciting to see UH tech alumni.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
When I mentioned the good things that are going on
at Texas Tech, tech alumni will will reach out to me.
And there's so many people who are Tech alumni that
I did not realize and very proudly so and been
involved for for a long time. It's exciting to see.
You know, I think Texas Tech, I mean, I think
Texas A and M is at a moment of reckoning
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where they're trying to decide do they still want to
be the earl rudder kind of Texas A and M
that George Patten bragged on, or do they want to
be Berkeley in College Station, and I think they have
to decide that. I think under their new leadership, University
of Texas has restored some degree of sanity, and I
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know the alumni are happy to see that. But Texas
Tech deserves a mention. And for every parent out there
looking at universities, make sure this is a university you
look at, because whatever you've thought of Tech in the past,
it is. These are exciting times for this institution. Brandon Creyton,
thanks for making an hour for us, buddy.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And thank you Michael. It's always great to be on
with you. And we'll get back together soon for updates.
God bless you brothers.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Thank you from one. Would you like to make a
donation to the university. You got two kids coming up,
you know, it's never too early to start thinking about that.
July and Oliver. They're going to have to get in
somewhere that's a good school. And you know you can
fly direct now to Lubbook.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
They got it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You can fly to love Book faster than you can
drive to Austin. This kind of things you gotta think about,
you know what I'm saying. Lubbook's a nice place.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load load.
So Michael Verie Show is on the air. I had
never been to love Texas Odd right much as I
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love Mike Davis. I'd never been to a Texas Tech
home game. I was at the famous Tech versus University
of Texas game where where Crabtree snatched that pass out
of the air and scored and brought Texas Tech up
to number two in the country. I was, like many people,
with the biggest fan of my own mind of the
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pirate there ever was. I've always watched Texas Tech from
a distance. We got an email years after we started
on the air from BJS. The Great Quarterback just went
in there in their Hall of Fame this past November.
And I've had a lot of friends from Tech over
the years. Grant Patterson, who's one of our top sellers,
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is a very proud Tech alum. I've told the story
that the two thousand election, there was a group of
us that were on the strike force and we got
tickets to everything at the Bush inauguration in two thousand
and one, and I remember it was a snowy, icy
night and my wife and I were driving along at
ten miles an hour, just scared to death. We were
going to skid off the road. And when you walked
into this big facility, the Texas Room was the most
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exclusive group, and that that was the campaign's kind of
inner circle. That's where I told you I met Daryl
Royal and Troy Aikman and Tony Dorsay. It was amazing
Rogers Talbott. But as you entered the premier group that
had bought out the kind of the lobby of the
place was Texas Tech, and they were guns up in it.
And I realized, these guys from Tech, they're serious. And
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I have watched systematically the image of Texas Tech improve
year after year after year, and they're hungry for it.
We saw it on the football field this past year
when John Seller's, Cody Campbell, and my dear friend Gary Peterson,
the three of them combined to create the largest nil
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account in the country. They went and got good talent,
they got a great coach. This guy's fantastic, and the
team was just wonderful. They've got a beautiful new stadium.
The student experience is amazing. They've done it with basketball,
they've done it with girls softball. Gary Peterson and I
watched last year the girl Softball Championship, and they would
have won it saving it except for the fact that
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their star pitcher had pitched too many innings. She was
just wore out. But Texas Tech has been on an
upward trajectory, I think, faster than any university that I
can think of. They have also during that time made
very public statements about their political positions with regard to education.
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We are not going to be a left wing institution.
We're going to be an academic institution, and we're not
going to teach the nonsense political correctness. We're going to
teach history and science and mathematics the way it always
has been. I would argue Texas Tech is on an incredible,
incredible run. They're raising a lot of money, insane amounts
of money, and not just for their sporting programs. They
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have the Mark Lanier, who will be our guest next
week law school, the fellow that won this massive lawsuit
against Facebook and Google saying you bastards, what you're doing
is hooking kids on social media in a way you
lied about that is very unhealthy and they're left unprotected
and look at the results. Mark Lanier is not the
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first big judgment he's ever made. But he's a very
proud Texas Tack alumnus. I think they named the law
school after him, Ramona, is that right? Yeah? Anyway, So
a lot of momentum, amazing things, and they brought in
Brandon Creighton, who has been a friend of the show
for a number of years. He is their new chancellor,
and the momentum continue because this guy's a doer. Keep
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your eye on Creighton. He's going to be even bigger
in the future. Welcome to the program, Chancellor.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's good to be with you, Michael. How's it going.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's fantastic. The bigger question is how it's going for you.
Let's start with, for instance, the kind of things that
we love to see. A partnership. I was reading about
a partnership with Nvidia that what did I see the
only non military organization to have the most advanced chip
in the nation. How does Texas Tech land that deal?
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My understanding from an inside sources, you were a big
part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, you know. I'd love to give a technical answer there,
but it sometimes it just comes down to knocking on
the door and laying out a presentation that's a fit
for you know, a collaborative effort with the private sector.
And part of my first hundred day agenda was doing
exactly that. I went to the number one market cap
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value company in the world and talk to their the
co founders. I had heard that they had a heart
for higher education, but they were frustrated with their experiences
and approaching the sort of Northeastern academic elite ivs with
opportunities to collaborate, and I wanted to make sure that
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they understood Texas Tech was ready to work with them,
and we did exactly that, and we now have their
GB three hundred new generation chips that scale forward to
soon to be the Vera Reuben release for their full
agentic AI. And as you mentioned, we have the fastest
higher performance chips of any university in the world other
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than the United States Naval Academy Postgraduate School at Monterey
with their defense contracts.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And so, what does that look like? Will y'all have
the opportunity to monetize that. Are you purely the academic
research side of that, and Nvidia takes that and monetizes that.
What does that look like from here? How does it
manifest itself?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's a great question. So we have the choice to
do both. In video. Normally, with their new generation chips.
You know there's you know, A and M and UT
in Florida as examples, they have the one hundred and
two hundred series chips that do not scale forward into
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the future. But what we have with the three hundred
chips and this new generation, and VIDIA normally keeps those
close to the vest and they sell time for the
use of those fast modeling you know, hyper performance computation
chips and that hardware to other companies for efficiencies, you know,
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six years worth of modeling on cancer research or dementia research,
or efficiencies for the Texas Electric grid at six years
worth of modeling could be done in twenty five days.
And to be first to market on those accomplishments and
to be working directly with Texas Tech, we can do both.
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We can hold a percentage of that capacity internal for
our own research, and we can generate revenue by bringing
in companies that we choose to do business with that
would like to purchase time for the use of those
fast hardware.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Let's go back to your original answer, and this is
the takeaway for universities across the country. Stop being creepy.
The private sector does not want to be dragged into
left wing, highly political, goofy, weird, perverted causes. They want
universities to be universities centers for research and innovation, places
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where people learn, places where information and analysis is developed,
and young people are growing to get their degrees and
graduate students are changing the world. And isn't it amazing
you just got back to basics and look at the
results you get. Texas Tech Chancellor Brandon Creighton is our guest.
More with him coming up. I want to go back
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to one of these women, are chief Michael Berry. I
think that there might.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Be because I've got nothing going on down there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Probably it's a nice town. I have no idea. I
had to get away, very livable town, nice size of town.
You know a lot of people who will will say
professional now a professional football team, give him into a
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tech game. But I mean people who need a professional
sports team. Okay, they're going to go live in a
in a New York, LA, Houston Vine. But if you
want a town to raise your kids in but have
everything you could ever want, that's love it I mean
it is. It is not You've got plenty of restaurants.
You got plenty of neat things. You've got air travel,
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You've got a great university there, you've got a solid economy.
Former Senator now Chancellor of Texas Tech University Brendan Creighton
with a lot of momentum, a lot of wind in
their sales is our guests. You released a policy memo
to guide a phase out of academic programs that are
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centered on sexual orientation and gender identity. According to the
memo quote, the Texas Tech University system will no longer
offer academic credentials in these fields. Anyone who's currently enrolled
can complete their degree, but we are not entering new
students matriculating new students to study sexual orientation and gender identity.
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Why do this and what has been the response?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, Michael, the response has been outstanding, you know, and
you and I have been talking a long time. Through
the years my time in the Senate and in the
legislature as a whole, I spent so much of my
time there on education and education reform. And when I
left in November after nineteen years in Capital, I had
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spent the better part of a decade on higher education
reforms and funding reforms, and part of that was a
culmination of the Senate Bill seventeen removing DEI and heavy
enforcement provisions. But the next generation of that was Senate
Built thirty seven that I'm now founding myself enforcing on
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the front lines from one of the most conservative universities
in the country. And what an opportunity to be able
to do that. Where Senate Built thirty seven deals with curriculum,
Senate Bill seventeen before it dealt with hiring this curriculum reform,
and we planned to offer what we think will be
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guidance sent a model for the nation's universities, not just
Texas universities. It's about ensuring that every course we offer
is rigorous, it's relevant, it's directly tied to preparing students
for twenty first century workforce. And you and I both
know and you've talked about it. I mean, what is
higher education going to look like in sixty months? Texas
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Tech plans to be tip of the spear in directing
that outcome, not waiting to be on the menu.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
What are other ways that returning to normalcy effect? Well,
let's talk about fundraising. I mean, you've got the three
big donations from Gary Peterson, who it should be noticed,
I think and noted. I think in his career has
given over fifty million to Texas Tech. Cody Campbell obviously
has has given an insane amount of money and his
partner John Sellers. But what are you seeing from donors
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from the past, obviously Mark Lanier, but donors from the
past who are now waking up and going, Hey, I
love my school again, or hey, I want to show
I love my school again.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, there's synergy and overlap tied to everything we're
talking about with you know, those donors that have the
affluence and the ability to give at those levels. But
when we're working on reinforcing the integrity of our curriculum
that was already best in class, and we're strengthening trust
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from the public, our families that are looking for a
higher education opportunity. We're maintaining the competitiveness we've always had.
But top rankings in law school and agriculture, the business school,
engineering or research initiatives, those donors, those alums, and really
I would say outside of the Red Raider family, what
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we're seeing in support in academics and in athletics is
record setting, and I believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
For people who would say, and I think a lot
of people do, and perhaps reasonably, that there's too much
emphasis on sports. And let's say that the Tech run
this year the greatest Hardy'll be the greatest Tech team
of all time. And I've never seen the public so
fired up, even outside Tech Nation, for this team and
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how far they could go. How does that benefit the
university beyond just the sports program.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, it's an incredible opportunity because it benefits student athletes.
And when we talk about the evolution of sports, you know,
it was controversial in the nineteen fifties when full ride
scholarships were given for athletics. It was said at that
time that it would destroy the locker room, it would
destroy the integrity of the sport, and it was just
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inconceivable to allow that to happen. Fast forward to the
last several years. I was the author in the Senate
in twenty one, in twenty twenty three, and in twenty
twenty five of the NIL legislation, as well as bringing
the academic reforms that we brought forward through the committee
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I was chairing in centered Education, and I would say
that I approached that issue with a heavy heart. You know,
I wanted to control the issue because I wanted Texas
to be an outlier in what I saw coming from
Alabama and other states that I thought was reckless on
behalf of student athletes. But back to your question, how
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is it, you know, affecting the landscape? I think, first
and foremost, since the Supreme Court ruled years ago that
student athletes should be compensated from the billions of dollars
that these institutions earned, and quite certainly the networks and
the money that they are and it's changing their lives
that these students that weren't able to stay in sports,
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which you and I both know is life saving for
many of these students and in different ways that poured
their hearts into it for so many years, all the
way to our most elite athletes at the Olympic level
that have had to sell their gold medals just to
pay expenses. And how could we as Americans even allow
that to happen. So I'm very big on college athletics
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across the board, men and women's sports, and I think
it's affected our applications. On the academic side, I think
the notoriety has been incredible, But if anything, It's just
shown what we've always known, which is Texas Tech is
where families want to send their kids for the values
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and the work ethic and the integrity that we have
what we produce and a degree of value, and we're
going to continue to advance that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What I love is that Texas Tech stands for something.
You get the sense that this university knows who and
what it is and it's unashamed of that. Can you
hang with us for just a moment?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Coming up, we will ask Brandon Creighton, who's a big
guy and a pretty healthy guy, if he were to
play one game for the Texas Tech Raiders Fred Raiders
this year, what position would it be. We have all
your formal where needs from morning suits to coordinating accessories.
Conroe native, he's a former senator. Brandon Creighton is now
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the chancellor of Texas Tech University. A really cool position
in a really cool time. There's a lot of momentum
at that school right now. Mark Lanier gave a lot
of money to the law school. The football team is
it's a top five team at any given time. They've
got the money and the alumni who care about it.
Cody Campbell, John sellers, Gary Peterson and others. They're attracting
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great talent at a time where if you're willing to
go out and do that, in the end, approve that
you're willing to go out and get talent, then you
can compete. And in the old days you just couldn't
do that. Mike Leach used to say that when he
played A and M Texas in Oklahoma, he was playing
with twenty two players on each side, eleven players on
each side of the ball, twenty two players, not one
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of whom had a scholarship offer from the school they
were playing, and often he would beat them, and that's
just a tribute to the pirate. Now they have the
opportunity to compete head to head with those teams dollar
for dollar. To me, that creates a better parody in
the sport and more fun in the sport. I realize
not everybody agrees with me. Brandon Creighton, I'm going to
ask you to give me the pitch. I took a
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tour of your great institution. I saw you the day
of the game with Gary Peterson, who is as big
a fan and tour guide as you could get. He
is a homer, as they would say, for the local team.
But tell folks and me a little bit about your
veterinary school, your law school, your medical school. The place
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is on fire and a lot of people won't know
about that. Your business school.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I appreciate the opportunity to do that. Michael O. Yah.
The veterinary school that you made in first it is
not just one of the newer veteran veterinary schools in
the nation, but just over the past few years since
it launched, it now has the distinction of having the
number one passage rates in the state of Texas and
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number two passage rates in the nation, only to the
state of Washington. So what our School of Veterinary Medicine
has done in a very short period of time to
reach national acclaim has just been so exciting for the
students that it started out there.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You know this already, But in the past I would
always ask veterinarians when they really went to school, and
it was either Texas, A and M or Auburn, which
is fine, but we had a shortage of veterinarians driving
the cost of I think this is going to put
veterinarians in smaller communities. It's going to create more veterinarian
specialties into different breeds and horses and bovine and all
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of that. I think it's good for I think good
for our state's good for the country.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We absolutely needed it in Texas. We were way behind
on it. A and M had opposed the you know,
approval of it through the legislature for many years. And
you know, for larger animal care and just the broad
care that you're talking about was so needed across the state.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I know that you were a rancher. Do you still
do any ranching?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yes? Yeah, I have a place in Madisonville. I grew
up in you know, I say Conroe, but's it's cutting
shoot right outside of Conroe. Most people haven't heard of it.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But what do you have on your ranch?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
On my place? I have great Brahmin cattle. And we
grew up in a family ranching right outside of Conroe
and in southern New Mexico back and forth, my brothers
and I running horses, and we also crossbred Santa Gratudas
and Hereford cattle on our New Mexico place. So long
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line of producers in my family. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So we got the veterinary school that's doing great. The
law school.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The law school has out of four out of the
last six years won the national championship at the ABA
American Bar Association national competitions across the board. Incredible. The
bar passage rates were just released for twenty twenty five
last week, and I believe the top of the list
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for the top performance in passage rates for the country
was Stanford and Duke. I believe Harvard was number four.
Texas Tech was number thirteen in the nation. So just
an exceptional law school. You mentioned Mark Lanier. What a
great example. I mean, the attorneys that I've practiced across
the table from and on the same side of the
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equation over the years from Texas Tech always superior in
app location and street smart and just common sense and
their ability to have the highest level of confidence in
the courtroom. Many law schools, as you know, teach law
students how to be future law professors, but very few
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of them teach how to apply what they're learning. Texas
Tech at the top of the list.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And I will say my wife went to University of
Houston Law Center and South Texas College of Law long
under the leadership of the late great Gerald Trees were
also very good at that and now Tech has that reputation.
Do I know you went to ut undergrad and then
you went to Oklahoma for law school? Do they actually
give a law degree there? Is it more kind of
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a certificate?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They give a degree there? Yes? It was Oklahoma City University.
There's it's Oklahoma's SMU, their private Methodist schools. Okay, and
yes they were.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So you can still go to court. You're still an
officer of the courtinate like, you could still act like
a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I can still act like a lawyer. That's right. And
there's no sooner tied to it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So I did not realize that, Okay, I did not.
I had you down as Oklahoma. You've got nursing, You've
got medical What else is going on in Texas?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Tech?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Tell me about those.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Top ten nursing program in the nation. We have two
different health sciences centers, both in Lubbock and ol Paso,
just leading in rural health care and access to care
across the state. What we offer in medicine is unmatched.
And I would just encourage every student out there that
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is has aspirations to be in the medical field to
look at our nursing school, to look at our health
Sciences Center and our cancer research and the Fox Cancer
Center that's being constructed now in al Paso. We got
the John Wayne Family Foundation away from Stanford because the
Wayne family was so tired of the typical politicians and
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the typical academic underperformance of Stanford and just California as
a whole and out of the entire nation. They chose
Texas Tech to work with for the for the rest
of their time.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That does not surprise me. His daughter lives in Nashville.
She's a lawyer. You probably know her, and sends me
emails about what I've talked about that day, and I
run around the house saying, I just got an email
fro John Wayne's daughter, which is which is pretty cool.
I have to double back on something. Brandon Creighton is
the chancellor of Texas Tech University, which has a lot
of momentum right now. It's a great institution. If your
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kids haven't thought about it, or if you're listening and
I got to tell you check out what they're doing,
you're going to be very, very impressed. Did you have
you be honest? Have you called Mark Lanier since he
won the big case against Facebook, Because let's be honest,
he needs to write another check.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know, I haven't yet, but it has come up.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And you know, he knows he's a tither, he's a pastor,
he's a tither. He knows he needs to write a check.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's a wonderful guy and he's been incredibly supportive and
yes we're going to hit him up. So without a doubt,
happy for him on this. You know, recent victory in court,
many of those under his belt and Lanaire has been
uh an incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Well, you don't want to ask for too little though,
you know, because that's the problem with ask you know
what I meant him come.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We want to come in heavy with Mark.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He needs to come correct. We all saw it. You're
all over National TV. You know, save some back for
the church. You know that's all good. You got the
big party every year, but you need to you need
to give to the Martin lan Nearer Law School. More
coming up with Brandon Creighton, including what position he'd like
to play.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You are listening to the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm not trying to put Brandon Creyton on the spot
because he's just getting his legs under him. A chancellor
at the University at Texas Tech university. But I have
to tell you a quick story. A friend of mine,
his son, wanted to work with him in his plumbing business.
His son was beginning his junior year, and he said, Dad,
I burned through my whole day. I know. I want
to come and work and run and work at your
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plumbing company and take it over the way you did
with Dad. You didn't go to college. I don't want
to go to college a smart kid. But he's just
it's not he doesn't. He doesn't see college as offering him.
He's already, you know, doing everything he needs to do
to be a licensed plumber and everything that goes with that.
So he said, how about I just do my online
education and get my high school diploma. And so my
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friend Aggie, Plumber's family, he and his wife, they start
looking at ways to do that, and the best program
they found was through Texas Tech. Where Texas Tech actually
you go through this some sort of portal and you do.
It's a self self guided high school curriculum. And if
you take out all the nonsense of high school lunch,
class changes, hair pull in, being called to the principal
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because you're fidgeting, you take everything else out and it
turns out that you can get your actual education portion done,
the real transmission of information, engaging in perspective and analysis
in a couple hours a day. And so that's where
he started doing. And he had told me at the time.
They looked around and the best program in the state
was Texas Tech University. I don't know how much you
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know about your online education this early. I'm sure you do,
but I got to tell you. I thought, you know,
as you know, uniformer state center universities are funded. I
used to be three quarters from the taxpayer and only
one quarter from tuition, so they have a responsibility to
the people paying the taxes, not just the students. And
I thought, man, that's really giving something back. That is
something to be very proud of.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
The Texas Tech Online program is best in class. I
call him, and you're right. When I was chairing Education
in the Senate, I was working with thirty four to
four year institutions and fifty community colleges, and over and
over again, from a peer category review and just from
feedback from students in the public, the Texas Tech Online
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opportunities were always top of the list. So we're going
to continue that. We're going to continue to advance it
and grow it forward. It's obviously, as you mentioned, incredibly
important for those that are developing a trade and a
skill as I did. I was a pipe fitter and
a chemical plant when I left my family ranch because
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I wanted to do something different, and I did that
for a year before I went to college. But we
want all of our you know, all of our students
and adult learners that are in developing new trades and skills.
So also understand that they, you know, their aspirations to
own own a company one day and to have many
employees and to grow the economy, that that could be
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enhanced with credentials from a university like Texas Tech, and
whether it's online or it's on campus, that those those
strengths that you would develop with what works and the
technical skills, the data literacy, the collaborative efforts, the adaptability,
all of that is included in those services.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, my view has always been that the university should
not stop at the gates of the buildings. They should
sort of bleed into the communities. And I think over
the years, Texas A and M had a great reputation
for that. Their role in the county extension agencies and
their role with the Texas Transportation Institute, their role in
agricultural research and contributing to our economy. But Texas Tech
(28:35):
has been very much and I learned of this in
the last year at the front of agricultural sciences, not
just for degrees and educations as an incubator for kids,
but contributing to the state. Would you speak to that,
I know that's your background.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, So, I mean, our School of Agriculture is not
just a top program in the state or the country,
it's a top program in the world. I mean, it's
revered by the leaders in agriculture, you know, across any
different discipline and highly claimed because of that. So we're
(29:13):
very proud of our College of Agriculture. It continues to grow.
As you mentioned earlier, our applications and our enrollment continue
to climb. There's a lot of notoriety with that because
of our excellence in athletics, but really as an example
for our School of Agriculture, it is a top tier
(29:36):
program that is being sought by the best students in
the country and it's showing in the results for the
research that's involved there, for the producers and the businesses
that are launched out of it. And we you know,
as an example, the Balmot family that developed the milk
(29:58):
and dairy across the country that are now in all
the hubs in America, and they partner with Coca Cola
and they own Core Milk and all of these different products.
I mean, that was an example of now a family
office that's valued in the billions that launched right out
of just being students at Texas Tech College of Agriculture.
(30:21):
So thank you for asking about it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Well, let's double back Texas Tech Chancellor Brandon Creighton, former
State Center originally from Conroe Cutting Shoot, now leading an
institution with a lot of wind behind its sales. So
you get to play or have to play, however you
want to look at it. One game at what position
for your Red Raiders next year?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
What would that be? Oh man, that's a great question.
In football, I would say defensive back, you know, safety,
just because I try to be a nice guy every
day even though I'm determined and accomplish, but I'd love
to hit somebody on the field. Yeah, even though I'm
fifty five. And you could ask me the team that
(30:59):
i'd like to play against if it was in basketball,
it'd be the number two position, the shooting guard. Shooting
guard well that at Well on our basketball team was
so accomplished at it. He's graduating and leaving us. But
defensive back and football or a number two position shooting
guard in basketball. I'd love either opportunity for a second,
(31:20):
that the coaches might let me out there before they
yanked me from the game.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Well, you know, I think that you are uniquely suited
to be the chancellor of that school UH and you
are at a time where they have such momentum, and
it is so exciting to see UH tech alumni.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
When I mentioned the good things that are going on
at Texas Tech, tech alumni will will reach out to me.
And there's so many people who are Tech alumni that
I did not realize and very proudly so and been
involved for for a long time. It's exciting to see.
You know, I think Texas Tech, I mean, I think
Texas A and M is at a moment of reckoning
(32:02):
where they're trying to decide do they still want to
be the earl rudder kind of Texas A and M
that George Patten bragged on, or do they want to
be Berkeley in College Station, and I think they have
to decide that. I think under their new leadership, University
of Texas has restored some degree of sanity, and I
(32:24):
know the alumni are happy to see that. But Texas
Tech deserves a mention. And for every parent out there
looking at universities, make sure this is a university you
look at, because whatever you've thought of Tech in the past,
it is. These are exciting times for this institution. Brandon Creyton,
thanks for making an hour for us, buddy.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And thank you Michael. It's always great to be on
with you. And we'll get back together soon for updates.
God bless you brothers.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Thank you from one. Would you like to make a
donation to the university. You got two kids coming up,
you know, it's never too early to start thinking about that.
July and Oliver. They're going to have to get in
somewhere that's a good school. And you know you can
fly direct now to Lubbook.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
They got it.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You can fly to love Book faster than you can
drive to Austin. This kind of things you gotta think about,
you know what I'm saying. Lubbook's a nice place.
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