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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air now.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I literally have never said anything to invoke violence, and
I challenge somebody to go and find a clip of
a democrat invoking violence.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all
of the country, and maybe there will be.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
People need to start taking through the streets. This is
a dictator.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You know. There needs to be unrest in the streets
for as long as there's unrest in our lives.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Enemies helped the State show me where it says that
protests are supposed to be polite and peaceable. I thought
he should have punished him in the face.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
They said, even if you lost, he insulted you.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Why he's on the escalator and called Mexican's rapist and murse.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He said, well, what do you think of today?
Speaker 6 (00:51):
So I think you should find some in the face
and then gotten none of the race.
Speaker 7 (00:53):
You would have been a hero.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I should have were in high school, taken behind the
gym and beat the hell out of them lunch some
people in the face.
Speaker 8 (01:00):
When was the last time an actor assassinator the president.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
They're still going to have to go out and put
a poet in dogar Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Let me ask you tonight, do you think Tom Trump
is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes, I do. The
former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milly said,
no one has ever been more dangerous to this country
than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist to his core.
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the
White House.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I will go and take Trump out from God like
if there rules. I mean, like this dude has to
be knocks over the.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Head like hard.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We are not only going to punch you back, but
we are gonna knock you out.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Mis're the party of criminals and convicts is now speaking
freely about their desires for violence, which should not be surprising.
It is a very low IQ response as conflict resolution,
to first use violence. You could see this level of
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savagery in any species. And what we're dealing with here
are people who are simply not very smart. And that
doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that people who
should know better will continue to vote for this nonsense
because they don't want to admit that they were wrong.
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At least to his credit. Bill Maher does so. At
least to his credit. John Fetterman does so, Joe Manchin
does so, because they recognize, they recognize exactly what's happening.
A man was arrested at Trump National Golf Course in California.
The President scheduled last night fly in a Republican National
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Committee fundraiser, and the fellow was walking around. He had
bullets in his pocket, he had an arsenal in his home.
He was studying the security measures on site. He claimed
to be an advanced man for the State Department, which
of course turned out not to be true. By all.
It would appear that he was preparing an assassination attempt,
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yet another one against this president. And this is what
their language leads to. The candidate who appears to have
won in Michigan last night, the voting is not done
just yet. In the Democrat primary. The most watched of
the five states that were holding primaries yesterday was a
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Democrat primary in Michigan, where you had Abdul l said
against the sort of Democrat establishment what they call moderate.
I wouldn't call her moderate, but for Democrats she is.
She was endorsed by Gretchen Whitmer, the governor. She was
endorsed by the Democrat establishment. She was funded by sixty
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six zero million dollars in special interest money, a lot
of it related to APAX, so sort of pro Jewish
interest in. Abdul L said, it looks like has pulled
out the victory and the anti Jew segment of the
Democrat Party is completely in control, leaving a lot of
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Jewish Americans who've made that their big issue, that being
Israel or the protection of Jews on American soil, are
now looking pretty stupid because now they have the decision
to make. Well do I continue to say that I'm
terribly afraid of Trump, who by all accounts has been
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if you talk about the most pro Israel president of
our lifetimes, he has. Whatever one thinks of that. It
would be interesting to see how many supposedly pro Israel
Democrats still run around screeching about this awful Donald Trump
while their own party has been taken over by the
Jew haters. And here we are but Van Jones on
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CNN as the news came in, abdul L said, appears
to have one. This guy's supported by Bernie Sanders, who
basically said during the campaign talking about Hassan Piker, a
guy who says that America deserved nine to eleven and
there should be more of them. Bertie Sanders would ask
you you're okay with that statement. He said, well, you
know it's not advisable, but we need to get socialism
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one way or another. Van Jones made the point that
the Democrat Socialist of America Muslim socialists are in charge
of the party and the Democrat Party is no more.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Listen to this, okay, Van Jones, What are the stakes
here for Democrats?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Look, this is the whole ball of wax.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
I'm from Jackson, Tennessee. There was a guy named gil
Scott Heron who had a great poem that was called,
the Revolution will not be televised, Gil Scott hearing is wrong.
The revolution is being televised and podcasts and streamed and
elected tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Why is that. It's because there.
Speaker 9 (05:58):
Is a credibility gap that's opened between the Democratic Party
establishment and this insurgency. People are looking at people and
they're saying, you've been telling us the same thing for
a long time, and our lives are not eating better.
We got Donald Trump twice. There's also an innovation gap.
Why can you spend sixty million dollars and get woo
like this, because the old model was you get the
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donors to get the consultants to buy a bunch of ads,
and you win. That's how you get attention. This movement says,
I don't need donors, ads, I don't need consultants. I'm
going right to the people with TikTok and grassroots. And
they disintermediated the entire donor classiated the entire consulting class.
And this is a revolution. And so this is going
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to happen again and again. The Democratic Party is now Blockbuster.
These kids are Netflix. We are selling CDs out the trunk.
This is Napster becoming Spotify, and Staff Live.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Last doing his gig on the Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
In light of the Democrats Socialists wins across the country,
let's look to Wisconsin. I have long considered Wisconsin a
very important state. Much like Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina. Wisconsin
is a state and probably more than any of them,
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that could go Democrat or Republican at any given time.
It's a true purple state. There was some fear a
few years ago that Ohio was becoming a purple state.
It has shown itself jd vance state to be a
Republican state. Pennsylvania, we have hoped Republicans could take but
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we've really struggled since Begala and Carvell one in ninety
in ninety and then I guess it was ninety ninety
and then helped Clinton win in ninety two. Pennsylvania has
turned more and more blue. Michigan has been an opportunity
for Republicans, but that state has moved more blue. And
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some of that is the growth of voter registration among
black voters in the Detroit area. Some of it is
voter fraud, and a lot of it is the massive
growth in the Muslim community that has been recruited Democrat
and we saw that recently. Wisconsin is still a true
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purple state. You've got Ron Johnson there, but you've had
Democrats with some big wins, and there is a real concern.
On the eleventh, Wisconsin will have their Democrat primary, and
the candidate who is most likely to win at this point,
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according to folks watching that closer than I do, is
a woman named Francesca Hulm. She's a Democrat. Of course,
she's in the state legislature. She's an elected official as
a state rep You're going to hear from her several
times today and everyone gets more and more shall we say, interesting, disturbing, horrifying,
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Let's start and build. She was speaking to a crowd
a couple of years ago, and when the energy on
the left was what you would call spirited, she had
twelve seconds of thoughts about then former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 10 (09:30):
In the restaurant industry, when we're out of something, we
say it's eighty six, and I'd say it's about time
we eighty six Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He represents the utter failure.
Speaker 10 (09:39):
Of our government to keep us safe from threats, both
viral and system.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
She said, it's time we eighty six Trump. Huh. Do
you remember what Komi spelled out in Seashells? Was it
forty five eighty six? You know that means to eighty
six is to kill, to all off, to finish them.
She's not the only one who used that term. It's
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too clever by half. It's real cute. Assassinate Trump, that's
what they're saying. Remember when Jim Comy did that. He
went on MS Now with Nicole Wallace. He had posted
an image of the shells arranged on the beach to
read eighty six forty seven, not forty five forty seven. Well,
Trump is forty five and forty seven, but Trump had
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won his reelection by that or his second election, and
eighty six means to eliminate. Comy looked into the camera
and said, it never occurred to him that the image
was controversial.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
You were back in the middle of a political firestorm. Yeah,
for walking on the beach with my wife. So I
don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred to
me that it was any kind of controversial thing. But
that's the time we live in.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So take me back to the walk on the beach.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
If we were walking on the beach. We went to
the beach to prepare for this week, which was the
launch of my book, to think about the book and
to prepare to ask answer questions about it. And we
were walking back towards the road and we saw in
the sand someone had arranged shells with numbers, and Patrice,
my wife, said, why would someone put an address in
the sand? And I said, I don't know. And we
stood over it and I said, you know, I think
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it's some kind of like political message, and she said,
you know eighty six. When I was a server, she
did a lot of working in restaurants meant to remove
an item from the menu when you ran out of ingredients.
And I said, well, to me, as a kid had
always meant to leave a place to ditch a place,
I said, that's really clever. So then she said you
should take a picture of that, and I did, and
I posted it on my Instagram account and thought nothing
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more of it until I heard through her that people
were saying it was some sort of a call for assassination.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Which is crazy, but I took it down.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Even if I think it's crazy, I don't want to
be associated with violence of any kind.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So let's go back to Francesca Hall. She's got opinions
about the police, specifically that their unions need to be
dismantled and the departments defunded. She doesn't want cops, which
is interesting because Democrats Socialists of America want to be
in government, but they don't and they want to pass laws,
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but they don't want the people who enforce those laws
to even exist. Well, if we're not going to enforce
laws and we're not going to have prisons for people
who break them, they also doesn't want that, then we
don't really need a government. But because without the ability
to enforce the laws that we elect people to write.
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We don't need a government to even write them. Right,
seems reasonable to me. This woman wins elections already in
Wisconsin and is in a position to win the primary.
Listen to this soase.
Speaker 11 (12:49):
Offers enforce the law with state sanction violence, and then
get excuse for violating people's rights because they aren't expected
to know the law and the other Police spent nearly
five million dollars implementing trainings, increasing diversity, repairing to strengthen
freight relationships between cops and communities.
Speaker 12 (13:04):
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We have to dismantle police.
Speaker 11 (13:07):
Unions and qualified immunity and start funding social services that
work with the music of domestic abuse cases, family services,
and public education. Our state needs to ensure resolutions and
accountability boards where the decision making power is in the
hands of representatives of those communities in each city should
have local control of how they dismantle their police systems
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to rebuild new community control systems rooted in preventive care
and reducing harm, Defund the police, protect black lives, and
build a care community.
Speaker 13 (13:36):
This is what we need.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So when Francesca Holng decided to run for higher office,
and CNN's Caitlin Collins got a crack at her. This
is a chance to ask her tough questions right. The
subject of the difficult subject of Thanksgiving came out, specifically
a twenty twenty one post where Hong told Americans to
cancel Thanksgiving. She didn't walk that back on CNN, she
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explained it, do you know why we should cancel Thanksgiving
as tradition thick an occasion as America has up there
with July fourth and Christmas because it's incredibly painful for
many people.
Speaker 13 (14:16):
I'm a chef, and one of the first meals that
I made that was for the community when I was
sixteen was a Thanksgiving meal. Now, I always think my
hospitality background in owning a restaurant for seven eight years,
that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and
build community is always a good thing. But Thanksgiving is
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also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in
our communities, and so I think there I wanted to
make sure that people understood that there are multiple views,
but views can evolve, and the position that I'm running
for right now, and I think my background as a
chef will actually help me become a better government that's
able to bring more people to the table.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And they looked at me, you know, and I just
looked at her, and I have to just get yourself
and get it out to Michael Barry's I reached over
and got a newspaper and I wrote it up.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
I slapped him on the nose that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
We continue with our theme of crazy Democrats. Josh Gotttheimer
is a Democrat congressman from New Jersey, A real one,
he'll tell you, and he went on Fox News. The
question was whether he has any overlap with the Democrat
Socialists of America and he doesn't. Min's words, DSA members
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are not Democrats. Well, they might like to have a
word with you, Josh.
Speaker 14 (15:38):
I want to ask you, do you think that there's
a lot of overlap between traditional Democrats such as yourself
and the Democrats socialists that are giving the establishment a
run for its money.
Speaker 15 (15:47):
Well, I'm a very proud common sense Democrat, and I
don't think the ESA members are Democrats. They're socialists, right,
And I'm all for them having their own party if
they want one, But if they're trying to take over
our party, that's unacceptable to me. And they're I use
their ideas and you know, are certainly not in line
with ours, and they don't support our leadership. They're trying
to use the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
As a vessel for their ideas. And as you heard
in some.
Speaker 15 (16:11):
Of these conventions, literally they're supporting the Communist Manifesto and
Trotsky the anti American, their anti cop. They don't believe
in borders, you know. And frankly, the good news is
there's only about one hundred and fifty thousand of them registered,
and they're forty five million Democrats, and so we should
make it very clear that they're not Democrats and they're
not welcome in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There's a fellow that the left loves. Think of him
as a Charlie Kirk of the left. Now, don't think
of anything about Charlie Kirk that you like, don't ascribe
that to this guy. He's a very influential guy who
gives speeches on the left. He's the opposite everything Charlie
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Kirk believed. This guy believes the other. And he has
the unfortunate name of Hassan Piker. He's a twitch stream,
that's how he's described. He speaks at Democrat rallies, And
at this one he's citing Michael Moore. Remember bowling for
Columbound Remember the big fat and bloated Michael Moore, Harvey Weinstein,
looking fellow. Michigan, Wisconsin not swing states anymore. The left
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is going to hold them, He's certain of it. A Republican,
he says, will never be elected in Michigan or Wisconsin again.
Speaker 12 (17:26):
The reason why I brought up Michigan is because I
think it was Michael Moore in twenty sixteen who said
Michigan's not a swing state, and neither is Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
These are not swing states.
Speaker 12 (17:38):
They've been turned into swing states because they've left you behind.
But we are going to bring back the working class
to booth Wisconsin and to Michigan. Oh, Republican will never
be elected in this state ever again.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Once our movement is done, well, let's clear our palette
with some good American thought, with some classical economic theory.
Milton Friedman a flashback the late Nobel Prize winning economists
walking through a public housing project in the Bronx. Three
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quarters of the families there are on welfare, and Friedman
explains what actually happens to people who get on it.
Not what the politicians promise, but what he saw and
what the data shows. Spoiler alert. Welfare hurts people, it
doesn't help them.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
In this public housing project in the Bronx, New York,
three quarters of the families are now receiving welfare payments.
The people who get on welfare lose their human independence
and feeling of dignity. They become subject to the dictates
and whims of their welfare supervisor, who can tell them
whether they can live here or there, whether they may
put in a telephone, what they may do with their lives.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
They're treated like children, not like.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Responsible in debts, and they're trapped in the system. Maybe
a job comes up that looks better than welfare, but
they're afraid to take it because if they lose it
after a few months, and maybe six months or nine
months before they can get back onto welfare. And as
a result, this becomes a self perpetuating psychone rather than
simply a temporary state of affair.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
A restaurant owner and forgive me, I don't know if
I'm going to pronounce this correctly, but I'm going to
do the best I can. I don't know that it's
that important. Named stratus Morphogan went on Fox News to
talk about what it's like to do business in New
York City under Mamdani. He had three leases ready to
sign for expansion of his restaurant concept Upper west Side,
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Upper east Side of Midtown to expand his restaurant growth
and development. But now he says he's not signing them,
and he explains why spoiler alert, because he doesn't want
to do business in a Mamdani socialist city.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Well leave entirely, but you're definitely not going to add
any more restaurants here under this new leadership. Why do
you take such issue with the new mayor.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Currently, we have three leases ready to sign in October
Upper west Side, Upper east Side and west Side Midtown
to expand Diner twenty four because we were the first
to bring back the diner, the twenty four hour diner
post COVID, because remember all of them closed and we
brought back the twenty four hour diner and think, really, really.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It was such a success.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
We wanted to open four altogether in the just in
the Manhattan area. But you know, when I start hearing uncertainty,
and I start hearing, you know, to defund the police
and a lot of uncertain in the small business areas
of what I'm hearing this upcoming mayor campaigning on. You know,
we like clarity, we don't like we don't like guessing.
I So right now we're just like a sit back
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and wait and see if he could pass some of
these things that he campaigned on, because we're not going
to open businesses in that climate.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So is not in New York City? Where else might
you open more business?
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Well, we have two diner leases ready to go in
Miami where I am right now, and you know, we're
just gonna We're just we have plenty of capital to
expand because the business is doing so well, and I
believe there's a need for a twenty four hour diner.
But when you get to that twenty dollars price point,
you know, people don't The politicians don't understand it because
they never ran a lemonade stand. But when you raise
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minimum wage to thirty dollars, you know at that point
that twelve dollars hamburger becomes twenty two dollars and it's
not going to work. When when you're in the fast
casual business where the average ticket is fifteen to twenty
four dollars, a person that's basically a knell on the coffin.
You're out of business. And all I say to the
mayor upcoming mayor, is you know and actually is quite
impressive for thirty three year old, But he's never run
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a business.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He's never run a small business.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
And to me, I think he needs to open the
doors for dialogue or debate with small business owners like
myself and other restaurant tours and other small business.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Owners to open dialogues.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
I think the best thing for all of us is
a better in New York City. And I just think
his policies is socialist Democrats. Socialisting policies do not work.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
All like you go more like women, Michael Gerry, I'm
not gay, no more. Seth Moulton is a Democrat congressman
from Massachusetts. He is running against the incumbent Senator Democrat
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Ed Markey in the in the Massachusetts Democrat primary. And
I want you to realize, so all of the Democrats,
who are as awful as they are, these people look
downright reasonable compared to the crazies on the left who
are now challenging them. They want the they want the
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Democrat Party to go even further to the left. So
here's Seth Moulton. He's a Democrat congress from from Massachusetts.
He actually ran for president before. At a debate, someone
asked him about his immigration plan. He we had a
three point plan. Point Number one was, shall we say,
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not secure the border. It was not reform the process.
It was prosecute ICE.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
Well, I want to be very clear, I have a
very clear three point immigration program. Number One, prosecute ICE.
Prosecute them for violating the law. They need to be
held accountable. Number two, create an immigration system that actually
incentivizes people to.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Come here legally, not illegally.
Speaker 14 (23:32):
My office has won five Democracy Yours Awards, one of
them for constituent services. Were regarded as one of the
best immigration offices in the entire entire country, in part
because we worked so hard to get our allies out
of Afghanistan. But it was harder for them to go
through the bureaucracy than it often is to come across
the border.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And three, we.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
Need a pathway a citizenship for everybody who's here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Okay, same debate, Seth Molton elaborates he was the first
candidate in the race to call for abolishing ICE. We're
not going to we're not going to have a department
that deals with illegal aliens. But then he doubled down.
The officers themselves, the men and women who show up
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for work every day to do a job, we have
to prosecute them.
Speaker 14 (24:19):
Look, the Washington Senate establishment, including the Democrats who have
been there for in some cases fifty years, have failed
to solve this problem. And that's why Trump is able
to weaponize the issue. And that's why I was the
first in this race to call for abolishing ICE. But
I went farther to say that they need to be
prosecuted as well. We need accountability, which this current Senate
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has not delivered to the Trump administry.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Seth Moulton back at a Democrat debate. This time he's
not talking about ICE. He's apologizing. You know why, because
at a prior debate, he's not apologizing for his ICE comments.
At a prior debate, he said something about out transgender
student athletes that upset people in the LGBT community. What
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he said was that he didn't want boys playing against
his daughters in sports. But that upset the Democrat party base,
so he apologized. Maybe he does want boys injuring his
girls or worse in youth sports. Really nice seth Iverson Wolton.
Speaker 16 (25:28):
In your last debate, you said, when you were asked
about student athletes who are a transgender, to anyone out
there listening tonight, anyone in the LGBTQ community or anyone else,
I stand with you, because I've always stood with you.
But after the last presidential election, you said, I have
two little girls. I don't want them getting run over
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on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete.
Congressman Wulton, which is it.
Speaker 14 (25:57):
To the trans community feeling the weight in the pain
of the Trump administration policies. I deeply recognize your trauma,
and I'm sorry if my comments hurt you.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Massachusetts, Wow, the mayor of Boston, How bad that one
is a little Francesca Hong wannabe Iona Presley part of
the squad, the crazy black bald woman that's just got
nutty ideas. She was on MS NOW taking a victory lap.
She was with Al Sharpton, Old Al, and she said, look,
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I'm the one you know. In twenty eighteen, I was
calling for abolishing ice and canceling student debt and medicare
for all, radical criminal justice reform, she's not embarrassed by it.
She's now saying, hey, I'm the godfather of this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
In twenty eighteen, when I was elected, I ran on
in a that that people tried to marginalize and radicalize.
In twenty eighteen, I was calling for the abolishing of ice.
I was calling to cancel student debt. I was calling
for Medicare for all. I was calling for radical criminal
legal reform and ending qualified immunity. And you know, those
attempts to marginalize me were an attempt to marginalize a movement,
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an attempt to silence the voices of the most disenfranchised.
But that movement has only multiplied. It is only multiplied.
Earlier today, I was joined by Congresswoman Summer Lee of
Pennsylvania and Congresswoman and Alilia Mahia from New Jersey. And
I was also joined by Yusef Jackson representing Rainbow Push,
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as well as Maurice Miller from the Working Families Party.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So there's an.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Incredible coalition on the ground, there's incredible momentum on the ground.
And what I've just been telling people is he can
win on this issue of electability. He can win if
you support him and he can one in win statewide
running on offering real, meaningful, transformative solution.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
To see how the Democrats have changed on issues in
one generation is mind blowing. Do you remember Harry Reid
talking about anchor babies and these women who would come
into the country and drop a baby and then all
of a sudden, oh, my baby's a citizen. You can't
kick me out. How bad it was for the country.
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That's because the Democrat Party used to try to present
itself as the party of the workingman, and the working
man was the person most hurt by illegal alien labor.
But the illegal alien labor in illegal alien constituency groups
and non government organizations, now they don't work. You look
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at Minneapolis or Bogoli issue. Now they just live off fraud.
Those groups got bigger than the working class Democrat voter base,
and so the Democrat voter base got pushed out for
the new illegal alien base. So that's why when you
hear Chuck Schumer back in the day talking about the
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fact that voter ID is important, and then in the
same clip you'll hear him say that it's Jim Crow
two point zero. This is the same senator talking about
the same rules for voting with very different opinions because
he got Maumo from the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Let's admit the truth. Everywhere people go they're asked for
a social Security card. In fact, one way to prove
you're a bona fide person who can have a job
is to ask for a driver's license and a social
security card. Well, this is an anti fraud amendment. All
over where we go, people say, well, why can't you
stop illegal immigrants or others from coming? And the number
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one answer we give our constituencies. When they come here,
they can get jobs, get benefits against the law because
of fraud. What they are proposing in this so called
say at is like Jim Crow two point zero