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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show is.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
On the air.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
We won't take a lot of hate. We're gonna be
sued every day and numerous times. I think you will
see the left try to control the media. They're going
to show their first crying female, first crying child, and
say how inhumane we are.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I just wouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm so sorry. Only people who are getting attacted the children.
They don't understand. They're so sorry. I wish I could
do something that they can't. I don't know what to do.

(00:52):
I'll try and be there.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
But they won't talk about three hundred and forty and
children that they failed to take care of.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
They're not going to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
The young women who have been murdered in this country,
the hands the criminal cartels. They're not going to talk
about the hundreds of angel moms and dads who bury
their children. Want to talk about family separation, they bury
their children. The children were killed by a member of
a member of a criminal cartewer where someone's not supposed
to be here. They'll tell one side of the story. They'll
try to vilifies, but they're not going to stop.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
It's where you lets the Martina fights through her pained
and tears after she says her father Andres Martina, was
arrested from his wake Gan home early Sunday morning by
Immigration and Customs enforcement agents. She says, the forty four
year old grandfather team to the US from Mexico nearly
thirty years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
They will open the door because the date that maybe
one of us where in Chi or something habits was.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Been nice, and we go to.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Find that priority tiger, which is a criminal alien. If
he's with the others in the United States illegally, we're
going to take enforcement. Actually, I guess we're going on
fourth immigrasive.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
I opened the curtain and saw that it said police.
When I saw the agents get out, they had the
buildings surrounded, so they entered. They went up and started
knocking on the doors really loudly.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
My children started crying. Almost five years.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Ago, there was a show that debuted on new Amazon
Prime called The White Lotus, and it won all sorts
of awards, and some people got upset because there was
a bunch of gay stuff on it, and some people
got upset because it was all sorts of stuff and
it was kind of one of these edgy shows that

(02:36):
got a lot of attention from critics. And I understand
that nuance does not sell well in today's market, but
let me try a little. There's a lot that is
outside the norm of normal television that they broach on
that subject. It's clear they have a desire to do that.

(03:00):
But there is one thing that I think is worthy
of note. Sidney Sweeney, who has become this big sex
symbol for based Americans non liberals, is a young girl
that in that show season one. Now, if you're wondering, Michael,

(03:22):
why are you talking about something is five years old. Well,
a year ago, my wife and I watched season three
and I never watched one and two, but she was
watching season three and she was two episodes in and
she said, will you watch this with me? And so
we try to find things to do together related to
movies because we have very different tastes. She's not a

(03:42):
big movie watcher anyway, and I like some blood and gore.
So it's hard for us to find stuff that we
like together. But I do it because you should do
those things. You should spend time together, you should make
you should share memories, have things to talk about. So
we watched it episode three, and she says to me
this past weekend, Hey, you never watched what episodes one

(04:04):
and two? Why don't I'll rewatch them so we can
watch them together. Okay, So we started episode one and
Sidney Sweeney's character is it's a family mother, father's son,
daughter who go on vacation to Maui from I don't
know where they're from, it doesn't matter. And the daughter,

(04:25):
Sidney Sweeney, gets to bring along her friend, as often happens,
and she and her friend. Her friend is indeterminate origin, Hispanic,
probably part Hispanic, part black, could be Puerto Rican, I
don't know, but she's obviously grown up, brought up here.
Her name is Paula, and Paula has a real hang

(04:47):
up that you know. We're on Stolen Lane and she's
Billie Eilish kind of thing. She is Stolen Layan and
she's real caught up and all that, and she and
Sidney Sweeney's.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Character are too cool for school.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
They sit at the pool and criticize everyone else. Everyone
else is old and white and stupid and not phonny
and not cool and all this, and they get hung
up in very twisted relationships. They make very bad personal
life decisions for themselves through it all, they're very judgmental

(05:22):
towards Sidney Sweeney's parents, who've taken them, who brought them
on this vacation, and they have this quite self righteous
view that the parents, because they're white, and everybody else
at the venue that is white, that.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
These people are not very smart.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
They're all very privileged, very stupid and evil and they
deserve bad things to come of them because they've been
handed everything in their life, and Sidney Sweeney particularly, but
and her friend. They ridicule her mom because she is
a CFO of a of an internet company and she's

(06:03):
having to work while they're there, returning emails, you zoom calls,
you know, that's what corporations do, a bunch of stupid
meetings in unnecessary meetings. So she's always having to do
that and they make fun of her as if her
work is not meaningful. Well, I don't know if it's
changing in the world, but it's paying their bills because
she's the primary breadwinner in the house, not the dad.

(06:25):
But these smug, glib teenage girls who think they are
so much better than their parents. There's an interesting trend
in there, an interesting issue that they're vicious. They're constantly
under their breath saying horrible things as the family is

(06:46):
on a vacation, and then occasionally they will so much
as smile, and the parents are so happy this little
monster that they've raised has smiled. Maybe we've done something right.
And it is the best portrayal I've ever seen of that.
And I say that because we never allowed my kids
to do that. That's not me as superman. That is,

(07:10):
you can control certain things, and wine parents are continuing
to raise these little activists in waiting who they send
off to college and they end up in the streets
and try to kill the cops.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's on us.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
These people are coming from good poems because people are
not raising their kids, because they're raising people who they worship.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
They're your damn kids. Bring them to heel.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Michael Irvin was a superstar wide receiver for Dallas Cowboys
and before that, the Miami Hurricanes when they were at
the height of their phenomenal seasons. Incredible talent in every position,
wild lifestyle, drugs, partying, thuggery, and then of course he

(08:03):
was part of the Dallas Cowboys when they restored the
franchise to greatness. Under Jimmy Johnson, and then the team
that Jimmy Johnson built it, Barry Switzer was forceunate enough
to coach, and then of course Jerry Jones had to
blow the whole thing up. But Michael Irvin has a
Netflix video podcast called The White House with Michael Irvin.

(08:27):
The reason it's called the White House has nothing to
do with where the president lives. The White House, as
in the Jerry Jones documentary, was the house the players
bought so they could bring girls there and have sex
with them. It's a two story house near the Cowboys
Valley Ranch headquarters. It's actually very close to spring training,

(08:49):
like a few blocks and they called it a safe
place for camaraderie. Nice way to say a stab in cabin,
you know. On a recent episode, Michael Irvin said that
blacks need to stop thinking about their pain and focus

(09:11):
on their gain. It's Michael Irvin. I'm not saying it's
Tom of Soul, but just give it a listen.

Speaker 8 (09:20):
As if being pro black means you gotta be anti
white and they do not have to always commingle.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
I can be pro black without being anti white.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
And this is the problem.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
We gotta figure and we gotta get and this is
what holds us out of board rooms all the time,
because we can't come in and have a deep dive
session trying to understand what's better for the company to
move ahead. Because when you disagree with me, now I'm
holding it personally against you, and I see you at
the water find me that we were just in a

(09:52):
think tank. It wasn't anything personally against you, but we
hold everything so personally. We gotta grow up, man, and
stop messing around so we can get our brains in
our knowledge and our intelligence in those board rooms.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Because what good if you have knowledge if ain't.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Nobody gonna open an ear to it, you see, But
our pain.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
And our emotions must come out first. We don't care
who turn us down and who stopped listening.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
And we gotta stop thinking about our pain and think
about our gain of what we're trying to give.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
That's the reality right there.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
That's why we are sometimes stuck.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Sometimes stuck.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Every time somebody have a different opinion of you or
a different point than you, it doesn't mean they didn't
see you grew up in the ghetto and they ain't
watch what you're gonna went through it and you ain't.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Gonna have it. I ain't gonna have it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's just a think ting trying to come up with solutions. Now,
let's stop playing a round.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You ever noticed.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
The Democrats have no ideas, their ideas or to be
against Trump. There's an intellectual laziness to black leadership of
the last twenty years. Black intellectual influencers Columness, ESPN sportscasters

(11:19):
who really want to be thinkers and writers instead of
reading sports course. There's an intellectual laziness that simply says
white people are the devil.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And there's a market for it. That's just it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
You know, you wonder why products don't improve and then
something comes in and shoots past it when the iPhone
land launches in seven eight, and then you look at
you know, what were the rest of you doing. You know,
BlackBerry was the best we had and that was innovation
at the time. Nobody could imagine a phone that would

(12:00):
have all these That's where we are with what passes
for black intellectualism today.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Not very smart people.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Who are not able to structure a thoughtful sentence, much
less paragrapher idea talking about whites being demons and you
end up opening a space for Michael Irvin, a guy
best known as a really good football player, and he was.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
He was a game changer.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
He was a.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Playmaker for football fans.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You know, throw the stat book out, throw the career, this,
highest this. There are guys that you want on the
field when everybody else is gnawing their nails and shrinking away.
There there are guys who you want with the ball

(13:03):
in their hand. And I don't want to read too
much into this, but I think there is something to
be said for that. I think there is something very
important about that type of person, the type of person
who says, give me the ball when literally everyone else
in the stadium is saying, tell me what I have

(13:24):
to look away, tell me when it's over. Michael Irvin
has reinvented himself a few different times. Has he had problems? Yeah,
he's had a lot of problems. They're well documented. I
don't need to repeat him. But do we simply dismiss
him because of that? I'll tell you. He got on

(13:46):
my last damn nerve during the Miami playoff run, my
last nerve. I don't know if he was coked up
or not. But he was trying to steal the show
from those boys. Well men till them we're twenty five,
But he was trying to steal the show from them.

(14:06):
He was interjecting himself into the sideline celebrations. If there
was a big play coming up, we'd have to see
a tight shot of Michael Irvin. And he's really nervous,
and oh my god, he's nervous, and I'm nervous. I
don't need to see the play. I just need to

(14:27):
know if Michael Irvin is nervous. And I found it tedious.
But his words in this case sometimes out of the
babes and mouth out of the mouths of babes. Sometimes,
sometimes really important things can be uttered by people who
are not thought, not regarded, extolled, exalted as being brilliant sometimes,

(14:58):
And Michael Irvin hasn't audience that I don't have. That
Trump doesn't have that, Thomas Ould doesn't have. The sports bro,
the sports fan, the guy who listens to sports radio,
the person who kind of, you know, Trumps a.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Bad guy, Obama's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know that, the tropes become kind of what they know,
and it's a Dunning Krueger effect. They think they know
more about politics than they do, and then a Michael
Urvin comes out and drops a truth bomb like that
that would underestimate how important things like that are. And
Bongino has entered into the influencers sphere with some stories

(15:43):
to tell about his time as deputy director of the FBI,
including this moment with the Epstein files. In the news
the latest round of releases, he addressed the situation. He
says that the FBI doesn't have the many thought they did,
including him.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Let's hear his remarks and then we'll get to what
he says.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
I know a lot of you are concerned also about Epstein.
Let me just say in advance, leadership involves frequently being
misunderstood and having mad to make decisions that it's going
to piss someone off.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
That's just the way it is. This case had been
handled poorly for a long time.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
And if you go and look at the search warrants
and a lot of matter of fact, almost all of
it's public now thanks to President Trump and the team
getting it all out there. There's an answer and answer
and disagreements in DC about how to handle level ten problems.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I love how people in.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
The media acted like this was like new, as if
the Biden team had done anything to get this stuff out,
they'd done. The person I thought at the time who
nailed what the issues were with this was our good
friend Mike Davis. There were a ton of problems with this.
Anyone who rapes kids deserves the death penalty. Amen, here's
a problem with the s the invest The FBI doesn't
have the evidence many thought it did. I want to

(17:03):
see the files. Folks said, don't let it go. I
meant it. We got elected, We looked at it. The
file was in There was not what we thought would
be in there. There are not tapes with powerful men
raping kids. There is not a list. Epstein's rolodex was
already public. The file is largely unreleasable for many reasons,
including grand jury material, court records under CEO, child pornography

(17:23):
that was downloaded from the internet. It is a deadly
serious case. There is zero doubt about it. Everyone and
the administration treated it as such.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
But it was not.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
It was a level ten problem. I can prove it
to you. No one else had solved it in the past.
Those are just a fact.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I'm on the outside looking in. So I.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Will make my statement with that in mind. First of all,
I don't know Dan Bongino. He's neither a friend nor
an enemy. I don't like him or dislike him. I've
always thought he was an important voice that we need.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
In the national conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I find this, I find it to be silly, the
fights between the various personalities over Israel or Hamas or
Palestinians or really, they're all measuring contests of who's bigger. Really,
it's all jealousy and patty high school bs, which is

(18:27):
why I don't engage in it. So I will say this,
I don't I don't think done. I don't think Dan
Bongino views himself as lying. I think he is an honorable,
decent man. I do, however, believe and I believe this

(18:51):
before he was there, and I believe it even more now.
I do believe that there are secrets that are kept
by extraordinarily powerful people, and that there are enforcers who
prevent those secrets from being exposed, and that good people

(19:12):
are forced to make a decision not because of a bribe,
not because of any gain to themselves, but for reasons
unknown to me, possible reasons fear, of reprisal. There are

(19:33):
an unusually high number of people who come up dead
when they start talking about these sorts of things. There
are a lot of people who just miraculously die around
the Clintons, around Epstein, around national security secrets.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There are, and it is.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
More than then can be explained away by dumb luck
or natural circumstances. So first, I think, I think. I
think there are very bad people inside and outside of
our government with the ability and willingness to kill you

(20:20):
or your family or people that matter to you. And
I think those threats are conveyed. I don't did that
happen damn much.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I'm not trying to make news. I'm not trying to
break news. I'm not trying to get clickbait. I'm I'm
asked my opinion on this subject, and I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
What I believe. When I say what I believe, I
don't know this to be the case.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
If you need me to tell you what I know
to be the case, then I have nothing to say
on the matter. I have a hunch, as we have hunches.
Sometimes I don't have an inside voice who has told
me this. I do talk to people within the government,
and there are a lot of people who wonder. But

(21:07):
let's step back from Dan Bongino. And by the way,
I'm glad he's back podcasting. I think he's a great podcaster.
I think he was very helpful to President Trump, and
I think he's very helpful to our movement. Overall. I
don't have to agree with somebody one hundred percent of
the things. And I'm grateful for his service. I'm grateful
he was willing to serve. Now I don't believe, well,

(21:32):
let's take the Epstein case. Let me take Dan out
of this. Let's take the Epstein case. First of all,
they told us we were going to see the files.
We still haven't seen the files. We finally, after all
this time, get little tidbits of files with stuff heavily redacted,

(21:54):
and everybody takes from it what they want. If you
like Elon Musk, you don't talk about Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
If you like.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Peter Atia, you don't talk about Peter Ortia. If you
like Bill Gates, you don't talk about Bill Gates or
the Clintons or whatever else you ever think about. With Epstein,
how many people gravitated to this man who had no
real basis. He couldn't put him in a movie. He

(22:23):
wasn't the single largest donor at any political campaign. He
wasn't an investor in their businesses. Some of these people
are so rich they don't need his money anyway. What
did he have that they gravitated them. If it was
a novel, you wouldn't believe it. If it was a screenplay,
you wouldn't watch it. The urge to have forbidden sex,

(22:49):
that is, sex with children and teens is so raw
and so powerful that if it can be provided and
you don't go to prison for life, that urge is
so great that people are willing to risk everything, and

(23:13):
they did because he was able to give the assurance
and the sense. And when it goes on long enough,
it must be okay. Look at all these other people
who are here when I go visit. Look at all
the other people who are on Lolita Express. Look at
all the people who know him and say nice things
about him. What was he offering them?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Michael Barry's show. The real question is, then no.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
One ever asks nobody was paying Epstein. There's been no
allegation that anyone was paying Epstein. Really nice guy, huh,
he buys Epstein Island. He creates an environment with security,

(24:12):
with a plane to get you there, although some came
on their own. He bought the marina at the nearby
island so you could fly into there. He bought a
boat to bring you to ferry you over. He never
charged a dime. He covers all these expenses with what

(24:37):
He never made an honest dime in his life. It
wasn't an investor, It wasn't a trader, wasn't a hedge
fund guy. He wasn't an investor who cashed out. His
burn rate was higher than any human being I've ever seen.
He's going through money faster than anybody. He is running

(24:59):
an elaborate operation, a massive resort in Colorado, New Mexico,
New York, Epstein Island, Paris. What in the hell why
is he doing this? It's not for him or him
in Galline, it's literally set up in bulk.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
We have one of my kids sports teams over and
it sets us back. You host your kid's birthday party
because you got to pay for everything, and at the
enterview like whoo, that took a hit. This guy's doing that.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
All the time. He's bringing.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
All of these people to an environment where they are engaged.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
In the most.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Immoral, illegal crimes imaginable, and he gets nothing back for it.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, he's a really really good friend. He was doing
this for people he barely knew. Why is he doing this?
He returns to American soil. If they could hook him
into that and try him, he'd already been I mean,
he was a club fedward. He'd already been a jail

(26:29):
for you, he was already a convicted felon. He pled out.
Why is he risking it all to do solids for people?
And by the way, movie stars he never asked to
be in their movies, rock stars, he never asked to
go on stage with them.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Why is he doing this? Nobody's asking that.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why is he doing these nice things for these people
at great personal expense and risk to himself. I don't
know if anyone who's done more for more people that
brought more risk to themselves outside of war than this guy.
He's either the he's either the nicest guy in the

(27:12):
world to feed these fetishes for so many people for
so long, or he's getting something in return. He not
having sex with him. Lots of people he's bringing on
the trip. He's not really getting money from him. Gates

(27:33):
gave him some money, but that's that's all part of
washing it and the impression that he's in the business.
He doesn't have a license to trade. He's gonna run
of fund. Show me his investments. Nobody can do that.
Show me where he made the money. You can't just

(27:53):
make that many billion dollars without anybody noticing. He was
burning through cash like there was a limitless supply, because
maybe there was. Do you know what it costs to
run a plane like he was running. I think I
saw it. Let me not lie the number of people
he could put on that plane. It was the size

(28:14):
of a commercial airliner. Do you know what that costs
to just burn fuel for that maintenance, hangar, fees, pilots, staffing.
What about all these homes all over the country, all
over the world. Nobody's asking that question. So then Jeffrey

(28:36):
Epstein ends up dead. Okay, we were told we'd get
the list. Do you believe we got the list if
you did good for you? Okay, I don't. We're getting
little drips and drives. But how did he die and why?
Here's what's been entered into evidence. Number one, not one,

(29:00):
but two separate security guards given the task of keeping
him from killing himself. Both supposedly fell asleep at exactly
the moment he died. Wow, what are the chances? Number two,
the camera that was working earlier all of a sudden,

(29:23):
all of a sudden, wasn't. I don't have cameras that
just go out at exactly the moment they're needed, do you.
We were told there was only one camera.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
We were told there were two cameras. There were eleven cameras,
now some of them you have to look at the
background of it. Eleven we're told there were only two,
and there's only one that we get any footage from. Now,
they would have given us no footage, but that looks sketchy.

(29:55):
So we give you one. And we're told that in
that one camera, the footage you see nobody enters or
exits his cell, but there's a dead spot. And the
dead spot just happens to be if you triangulate against

(30:16):
the other cameras a staircase up. They told us that
nobody was coming and going in and out of the
pod where his cell was, but that's not true because
there's footage in another scene where an inmate is bringing

(30:37):
laundry up to his cell. This is the kind of
operation we're running. This guy's public enemy number one, and
you got two goobers protecting him who both not one,
both fall asleep, and fall asleep at the very.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Time he dies. You believe that? Really?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Do you really believe that? You think that coincidence could happen?
How about the fact that the other way we'd know
how he died the camera the camera was oh, they
went out, We don't know. Why do you believe that?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Honestly?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Really? How are we just now finding out about all
these new round of names that's.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Been known forever.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
They hunted down the January sixth protesters. They tracked people
that they had granular footage in the back behind this,
and they tracked them down and hunted them down. They
did surveillance, They dug through their emails and phone calls
and whereabouts. They used cell phone data to find out

(31:58):
where they were at every minute. And you think that
we don't know anything about how this guy died. I
think this thing is bigger than any human being alive,
and I think none of them want to expose it.
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