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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Congressman Eric Swawell officially suspending his campaign for governor. He
wrote on X to my family, staff, friends.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
And supporters.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am deeply sorry for the mistakes and judgment I've
made in my past. I will fight the serious false
allegations that have been made, but that's my fight, not
a campaigns Again. It was Friday when CNN and the
San Francisco Chronicle both reported on these allegations.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
A lot has been said about me today through anonymous allegations.
I thought it was important that you see and hear
from me directly. These allegations of sexual assault are flat false.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
They are absolutely false.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
They did not happen, They have never happened, and I
will fight them with everything that I have.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
They also come on the eve of an.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Election where I've been the front runner candidate for governing California.
The truth's going to come out, and I hope everything
you've done so far is clean, because if it's not,
there's going to be a reckoning for that. As far
as public accountability that's going to come. What are the
chances that three or four women independently who never met
each other, would have similar experiences with one person. So

(01:24):
either Ari this person committed these horrific acts, or he
is the single unluckiest person in the world for these
people to conspire and.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Make up lies against him.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
But it's a very hard to taste to make the
more allegations that command you can.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
California used to be one of the greatest states in
the Union, an economic powerhouse, practically an entire state of resorts,
natural beauty unmatched, just glorious, high tech, wine, tourism. What

(02:00):
an amazing place and people. It birthed the political career
of Ronald Reagan. It was America's hub of intellectual conservatism.
And here we are, and here we are Gavin Newsom,

(02:24):
the governor running for president, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris,
Eric Swalwell, Eric Swallwell, And finally, after all the horrible

(02:46):
things he's done, it's a sex scandal. Having sex with
women who push back seemingly the only thing that can
take Democrats down. Remember there was Chinese fy Fang Bang.

(03:08):
I mean he was sleeping with the honeypot of the
Chinese Communist Party. She wasn't with him for his money.
She wasn't with him for his good looks. She was
with him to get information that our country didn't want

(03:29):
China to have, and in exchange, she had to let
him slabber all over her. But there were no demands
that he stepped down. There were no consequences for this treason. Nope,
and he continued on, and the scandals continued on. But

(03:52):
now now he's been accused of rape, and it's not
just one. So he's got nowhere else to go. He's
Richard gear In officer and a gentleman.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I nowhere else that go.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
You can't leave. All he's ever done is politics. All
he's ever done is politics. And apparently if destroys to
be to believe rape women, so here he is. He
has suspended his campaign.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
A lot has been said about me today through anonymous allegations,
and I thought it was important that you see and
hear from me directly. These allegations of sexual assault are
flat false. They're absolutely false. They did not happen, they
have never happened, and I will fight them with everything
that I have.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
They also come on the eve of an.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Election where I have been the front runner candidate for
governor in California.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Suggest to you in any way that I'm perfect or
that I'm a saint. I have certainly made mistakes and
judgment in my past, but those mistakes are between me
and my wife, and to her, I apologize deeply for
putting her in this position. I also apologize to you
if in any way you've doubted your support from me.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
But I think you know who I am.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
For over twenty years, I have served the public as
a city councilman, as a member of Congress, and as
a prosecutor who went to court on behalf of victims,
particularly on behalf of sexual assault victims. That's who I
am and have always been. This weekend, I'm going to
spend time with my family and friends, and I appreciate

(05:36):
those who have reached out to me to show support,
and I look forward to updating you very soon.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
So there is a wonderful I just discovered it yesterday,
was sent to me by a listener, which a lot
of our great show prep is we've got eyes in
the years out there trolling patrol, should I say, for
information and perspective. There's a phone name Scott Rouse r U.

(06:06):
Sc you can find him on YouTube if you just
put in that name. I have not researched him. I
have not looked at his body of work. But I
did watch about a fifteen minute piece that he did
on the body language of Eric Swalwell with the earlier
I think it was Friday Night video that Swalwell put up,

(06:28):
which was meant to be just a sort of hey,
these guys are terrible. This is horrible, this is they're
all out to get me. And he went through and
he broke down. He's a body language expert, and I've
never put a lot of faith in any of that stuff.
I'm not against it, I'm not for it. I just
I don't think that somebody called themselves a body language
expert means that whatever they you know, whatever they take

(06:52):
from someone's language, is supposed.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
To be, oh, this is a sign.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
But he does make some pretty compelling arguments for the cadence,
the fact that he's reading it when his gestures at
one point his eyes don't even blink in sync. And
he goes into too what he reads into all that,
and this guy supposedly trains law enforcement alsters who are
doing interrogations and things. I would encourage you when you
have a minute, just you might just find it interesting this.

(07:19):
He did this before Swalwell announced he was suspending his campaign.
And I suspect, because this pattern seems to be consistent.
I suspect we're going to get more of It's gonna
be like Bill Clinton, You're going to get more women
coming or Howard or Harvey Weinstein. I know you're going
to get more women coming forward. And I think the
Democrats are well aware of that.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Michael, very cute.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I recommend it, and you.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
This isn't the first time Eric Fartwell has pooped the bed.
He did it on National TV, Chris.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
So far, the evidence is uncontradicted that the President used
taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat
an election.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
That is not in any way edited. That was actual
National TV. Now you could say Czar or if you
prefer El Deolsino. It was on the Chris Matthews Show.
As nothing that carried away. There weren't that many people.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Who heard it.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
You're right, you're right, But for the sake of this argument,
he farted on National TV, Chris.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
So far, the evidence is uncontradicted that the President used
taxpayer dollars to ask the Ukrainians to help them cheat
in election.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Man talk about talking poop crap coming out of his mouth.
I could go on, but this is serious. The District
Attorney of Manhattan announces an investigation into Eric Fartwell after
a woman says she was raped. NBC News with a story.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Tonight the Manhattan District Attorney announcing an investigation involving Democratic
Congressman Eric swall Well after multiple women have come forward
alleging sexual misconduct by the California gubernatorial candidate, including one
allegation of rape in a New York hotel room. Swalwell
is denying the accusations, calling them absolutely false in this.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Video he posted late Friday night.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I do not suggest to you in any way that
I'm perfect or that I'm a saint. I've certainly made
mistakes and judgment in my past, but those mistakes are
between me.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
And my wife.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Swalwell is accused by several women of varying degrees of
sexual misconduct, detailed and reports in both the San Francisco
Chronicle and CNN. The outlets coroborating the allegations through interviews
with people the women confide it in and reviewing text
messages and medical records from the time. His former staffer
says her relationship with Swalwell consisted of sharing nude images

(09:47):
and photos on the messaging app Snapchat, a sexual encounter
in a car, and two instances where she says she
was sexually assaulted after a night of drinking with the congressman,
leaving her too intoxicated to consent. Her attorney to clim
to comment or issue any statement to NBC News.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
NBC News has confirmed she did work for Swallwell.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
The accusations have led to a swell of Democrats and
key labor unions to drop their endorsements of the forty
seven year old Andy, urging him to end his campaign
for governor, though notably not saying he should quit Congress.
But on the GEOP side, reb Anna Paulina Luna says
she plans to introduce emotion to expel Swawell.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
It is unacceptable for him to just index his campaign
for governor in California but still sit in the House
of Representatives.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Interestingly, the lead Democrat in the House, Hakeem Jeffries, says, yeah, yeah,
this is bad. He should step out of the governor's race.
Should he resign from Congress.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Nah.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Nah, we really have no standards here in Congress. You
mean raping his staffer. That's Tuesday in Congress. And isn't
it interesting how every time one of these guys gets
caught and you go back and look at the statements

(11:10):
they've made that don't age well. November of twenty twenty five,
just a few months ago, he was warning Donald Trump
that if Democrats win the House during the mid terms,
they are coming after him. This is a guy who
might have just raped a woman right before he says this,
he might have raped a woman right afterwards. Here he

(11:32):
is on MSNBC.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
What I want to project to the Department of Justice
and the President in particular, is a democratic majority is coming,
and when that majority comes, there's going to be accountability.
We will use the subpoena power. Get to know Jamie
Raskin and Robert Garcia, the chairs the future chairs of
the Judiciary and Oversight Committee, because I know they have
it in them to call you to account.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
And the truth's going to come out.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
And I hope everything you've done so far is clean,
because if it's not, there's going to be a reckoning
for that. As far as public accountability that's going.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
To come within the last year.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Farwell was on the Breakfast Club when he was asked
about Fang Bang, the spy that he had sex with
in exchange for secrets national secrets. He called those allegations
bs and said Republicans are only coming after him because
he's a white Christian man.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Did the Chinese spy scandal hurt your credibility?

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Are the Republicans just weaponied like a nothing burgers so
to speak? You know the fact that the FBI and
the House Ethics Committee said it was.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Like, I would hope.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That would be enough.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
But like in a disinformation society, like I recognize that
it's everyone on the rights favorite meme my wife tells
me all the time, you know what, the second they're
not going after you, you're not affected. And so I
wear it as a badge of honor that these guys
would want to lie about me all the time, because
I think it means that I'm landing.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Punches politically on them.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
That sting, and frankly, I think a lot of Republicans
look at me as like, oh, that's a straight, white
Christian male son of a cop, like everyone else like him,
looks like me, so when he comes at me, it's
more betrayal to them. Like I've heard that from them
on their side, that that's that's why they take. You

(13:30):
heard that, But like I'm a Christian and I don't
want to be defined by what Republicans think.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, like I don't wear it on my sleeve
in my politics.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
They do.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
You've heard that, so we're probably like, hey, Eric, come here, Look,
it's not your fault, but but you look like us.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know, white Anglo Saxon Protestant. Good luck and fella,
you work out a lot. You got to get the
blonde hair and everything. Son of a cop.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I mean, this is this is this from movies, man,
And so you being a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's really the only thing we have wrong with you.
I mean, you know what I mean. We like you,
We like you a lot. It is just you know,
we need you on our side cause.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
You look just like us.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
You will undoubtedly remember how the Democrats in their media
tried to ruin President Trump's nominee to the United States
Supreme Court Justice Bret Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearing. Well,
Eric Fartwell, you know this, I wish Rush was still around.
This was the sort of stuff he was so good at.

(14:38):
Whatever they accuse you of is what they are doing.
That's how you know what they're up to. They accuse
you of it. Big Tish accused Trump of mortgage fraud.
Turns out she was committee mortgage fraud. Here was Eric
Swalwell on MSNBC during the twenty eighteen hearing, where he

(15:00):
had this to say about the false allegations of sexual
assault against Brett Kavanaugh.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
What are the chances that three or four women independently
who never met each other would have similar experiences with
one person. So either ari this person committed these horrific acts,
or he is the single unluckiest person in the world
for these people to conspire and make up lies against him.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
But it's a very hard case to make.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
The more allegations that come in.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. With eric'swoll pausing
his campaign due to allegations, increasing numbers of allegations coming out,
none of him just having affairs. And when we know
about Fang Bang, the Chinese spy who was immediately recalled

(15:50):
to China when the whole indecent occasion was exposed, we
also know she was having se liaisons with other elected officials,
including the mayor of a city, in order to get
other information for the Chinese government. That's called a honeypot
when the government uses a woman to seduce an elected

(16:14):
official because his dumb ass will think, so, oh, she
wants me, and he'll tell her whatever she asks. You know,
her thick Chinese accent shouldn't in anyway, shouldn't in anyway
be a red flag for a guy who was serving
on the National Intelligence Committee.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, why would it.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
What are the chances she's a Chinese spy acting like
she wants him?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So this was from February of this year.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
It's Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff slobbering over each other.
These are California Democrats. Shiff praised Eric Swalwell's character and
said he was not quote fundamentally indecent end quote like Trump.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
That didn't age well like sour Milt.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
If you've just joined or you're came in late.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Senator Adam Schiff a friend a partner endorseing our campaign.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Well, first of all, let me say how proud I
am to support you, Eric, and you know, before you
go to the race. It was fully of my attention
to probably say out of the race. A lot of
friends are running, A lot of capable people are in
this field, who you know, I have great respect for.
But there are a couple of things that compelled me.
One is that when you got to the race here

(17:30):
with somebody that i'd worked with for over a decade,
who I had seen stand up to Donald Trump and
stand up to all his mega allies no matter what
they threw at you, Eric, and they're attacking you again
now because they fear that you'll be successful in this
race and they don't want a powerful person in the
governor's office once again to stand up to this president.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
We'll get through this.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
We're better than he has And you often like to
quote our colleague Elijah Cummings, the late Elijah Cummings, who
would say, we are better than this, and that's just
how I see our state and that's how I see
our country.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, I completely agree with you.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
During the first impeachment trial, and you did such a
magnificent job in the second one, I made an appeal
to my fellow senators that we could not leave a
man like this in power. First of all, we had
proven him guilty of what he was charged with. But
this was somebody who couldn't tell the truth. He was

(18:29):
just incapable of telling the truth. He did not know
right from wrong, and he was fundamentally indecent. And it
wasn't that the senator should remove him because he was
indecent and he couldn't tell right from wrong, and he
couldn't tell the truth, and those things didn't matter all
to him, But because they mattered to my colleagues, I

(18:50):
appealed to them that he is not who you are. Well, sadly,
there are plenty of them who I guess he is
who they are.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
That sounded so natural.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
So we have here my friend, mister Adam Schiff, a
good man and a good friend.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, Eric Swalwell.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
It is my honor to extend my blessing upon Eric Swalwell,
a good.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And decent man.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Unlike that terrible man over there who is orange named
Donald Trump. Eric Swalwell is a good man and a
reminder Donald Trump bad.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Eric Swalwell good.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yes, And this is the reason, as an esteemed United
States States Senator, that I called on my fellow senators
and I said, I said, I said, Donald Trump, he's
a bad man. And you are all good men. And therefore,

(20:04):
even though he was elected to be president of the
United States, we should kick him out of office. And
because he is not good like you, and he is
bad like him, we should do that. But they did
not do so. And that is why I think maybe
they are not also good men. But Eric Swalwell back

(20:26):
to the point of the subject here, he is a
good man. He is fundamentally a good man. He is
not fundamentally indecent like Donald Trump. You know things are
bad when CNN and mister Potato, heead Brian Stelter are
not even able to make excuses for a Democrat. This

(20:46):
is how bad things are.

Speaker 10 (20:48):
And those whispers about Swalwell, they have been circulating at
least for weeks, brought the proverbial receipts. You know, you
think about the stories published by The chronic and by
CNN on Friday afternoon, both with extensive details. I was
astonished as a reader of the CNN story, looking at
our colleagues on the investigative team, looking at how much corroboration,

(21:12):
how much evidence was presented in the story. And it
was the kind of damning evidence that ultimately Swawell could
not avoid or dodge forevery long his post on screens,
and he's suspending the campaign for governor, notably apologizing to
people for mistakes and judgment he's.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Made in the past.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
People are going to want to hear more about exactly
what he is admitting and what he is not admitting
because he strongly denied the sexual assault allegations. But as
the CNN team reported, there was an entire spectrum of
alleged behavior of wrongdoing from four different people, and as
I said, it was really about the corroboration, the level

(21:52):
of detail, the evidence from text messages, from photos, from
all of it that made this insurmountable for Swallwell, made
it impossible for him to continue to campaign. And of course, Jessica,
as you know you're out there, this is going to
completely reshape the California governor's race.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy was on ABC
this Week with Jonathan carl when he described trying to
get rid of Swalwell when he was caught banging a
Chinese spy. Kel McCarthy does not take does not like
Matt Gates, so he also takes a shot at Matt Gates.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Here we don't have much time left.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
But I wanted the allegations against Eric Swalwell, which have
not been independently confirmed by ABC. He's denied them all
but serious sexual misconduct allegations.

Speaker 12 (22:40):
And now you have.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
A you know, an army of Democrats abandoning his campaign
for governor. He was the leading candidate, a Democratic candidate
for governor, and now he's facing calls to drop out
from people like Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Listen, let me be very clear.

Speaker 13 (22:57):
I tried to get rid of Swalwell six eight years
ago when I got the brief ring when I became
leader with the FBI.

Speaker 12 (23:03):
Nancy Pelos, who was.

Speaker 13 (23:04):
In the room, I turned to her and said, how
can you keep her on Intel? Intel is a select
committee that only the leaders put on that you know
all the secrets that the members do not.

Speaker 12 (23:14):
But I made a mode.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
About sexual iness, contact allegations, or it.

Speaker 13 (23:17):
Was a combination with the Chinese spine led to all
that every member in Congress knows not to let any
young staffer get around Swallow or Matt Gates.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's not a secret there.

Speaker 13 (23:31):
There's a reason why you didn't want those two people around.
He was the leading candidate for governor. He probably could
have won the primary and gotten there, but this all came.

Speaker 12 (23:39):
Forward, and these young women deserve justice.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
You know, it's not right to push a woman past
her boundaries. Whatever you may think of the morality, it
is not right to do what he's done. I just
wish we could get as comfortable saying to a public
person and we won't support you, you're finished based on

(24:04):
their bad votes, rather than having to dredge up.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Sexual self Swalwell.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Swalwell should have been done long before the sexual scandals
came REI.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
What would you do with the brain if you head one?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Root it on because there is nothing here to Michael
very show.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
The extent to which Trump has broken the never Trump
was not just the Democrats. It's actually far worse for
the Republican establishment folks who simply can't bear not being
able to bring him down. George Conway George Conway was

(24:45):
a somewhat respected Republican donor. He really really wanted to
be Attorney general, and he and his wife, Kelly Anne
held an event for Ted Cruz. They were big supporters
to Ted Cruz. They were considered leaders among donors and

(25:05):
thinkers of the conservative movement. This is before Maga. This
goes back to twenty twelve. Well, people who were around
them started noticing, Kelly Ann is smarter than George. George
is a lawyer, but he's one of these types. If
you've ever been to a cocktail party in New York, Miami, LA, Chicago,

(25:32):
d C, Houston, Dallas, he's a blowheart. And you see
these guys at a cocktail party that are that are
dropping names, that are that are always the star of
their own story. Everybody wants their advice. And they told

(25:53):
Trump that you better do this throud, you know, and
he he, you know, he took my advice. And their
wife is embarrassed of them. And in the case, where
as sometimes happens, the wife is smarter and shrewder than
they are, it's even worse because she's got to listen

(26:13):
to this fat, blustering fool. And so you may or
may not know the story. But when Trump wins the
nomination in sixteen, the Conways switch over to supporting Trump.

(26:35):
George Conway was a fan of Trump so much so
that he thought Trump brought in a lot of Cruise's
people in sixteen because there were some really good people.
Some of them ended up in his cabinet. Some end
up top advisors. Cruise had a dream team. Cruise had
a better team than Trump did. It's just that Trump
was a one man juggernaut. Trump's people, by and large

(27:01):
turned out to be disloyal, some of them criminals, some
of the clowns, some of knaves, the Michael Cohens, the
Cory Lewandowskis, And he ended up recognizing that Cruz had
built a real dream team. A lot of those were
really good people. And so one of the ones he
plucked and brought into his first term was Kelly and Conway.

(27:25):
But he didn't want her husband. He thought her husband's
a blowhard. He's known that type over the years in
New York society. So George Conway, because his wife was
chosen to become a close advisor to the president and
not him, did something very disloyal forget Trump to his

(27:48):
own wife.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
He begins trashing Trump, which.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Made life very awkward for his wife, who was one
of Trump's closest advisors. Nobody ever suggested there was anything romantic.
Nobody ever suggested there was anything inappropriate. He wasn't the
cuckholded husband, and at least not physically, maybe intellectually. He
wasn't jealous of a sexual relationship, a romantic relationship between

(28:22):
Kelly Anne and the President.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
He was just jealous that.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
She was perceived to be of more value to Trump
than George was. And so his little ego was her.
And so he began he threw in his lot with
the National Review crowd. And what's the little fellow that
loves to tell you I'm a Christian, I'm a veteran.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
He's actually a lawyer. What's the guy's name?

Speaker 6 (28:51):
He just he's become an embarrassment. What, Oh, he's not
that little. He's actually tall, he's ball headed. Where's glasses?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
What's his name?

Speaker 6 (29:02):
He's there's always some story that he's written in The
New York Times loves to say, you know, and every
one of them was, like the first one. It's written
as a conservative Republican, I simply cannot agree with the
president on this matter. You wrote that last week. You
hate Trump. We know you hate Trump. You've hated Trump
all along. Oh, it's on the David French, that's his name.

(29:25):
And then and the liberal press loves to say Republicans
are now criticizing Trump, And there are Republicans criticizing Trump.
But these clowns have made it a cottage industry to
criticize Trump and get money from people who hate Trump
and call you know, because they're Republicans. Anyway, back to

(29:49):
George Conway. So this guy was so mad that Trump
brought his wife into the administration but not him. He
wanted to be attorney general. He didn't get that. It
went to Jeff Sessions. Then he wanted to be counselor
to the President, and Trump said, actually, I think your
wife has better political judgment than you. I'm bringing her in.
So George Conway embarrasses his wife, but just going on

(30:15):
the offensive against Trump, and everybody's looking like, hey, Kelly Anne,
what's going on with your husband. Well, now George Conway,
who has completely melted down. He talks about spending nearly
a million dollars of his own money on the Biden
twenty twenty four victory fund, and he breaks down into

(30:37):
tears as he does.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
So this is embarrassing.

Speaker 14 (30:42):
I was asked by a friend of mine who raises
money for Democrats, to speak at a big Democratic fundraiser
for was then the Biden victory Fund, and I remember
I was actually driving out to my friend John Gardner's
house out in Maryland, and I was thinking about, well,
how much money I give to the Biden campaign for

(31:02):
this thing where I'm going to be the headline spokesperson
and asking other people to give, you know, And I
thought I'd give, you know, a lot of money, but
a reasonable amount of money. And then I started thinking
about it, and it's like, you know, I mean, this
is supposed to it Gid's money that my kids would
otherwise inherit.

Speaker 12 (31:19):
And I started thinking about that, So what am I
going to give them?

Speaker 14 (31:23):
Then I just thought about it, Well, what do I
want my kids to herot And I literally was in tears.
I pull over to the side of the road and
I was in tears thinking about this. It's like, I
want my kids. It makes me miss the eye even today.
I want my kids to inherit a democracy. It's more
important than money. And and that society point out I'm
gonna I'm gonna give the legal maximum, which was like

(31:46):
nine hundred and twenty nine six hundred dollars, and.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
You know, I just it's just it's just more important.
It's just more important. And that's why I did that.
And that's why you know, I'm sixty two YEARSLF.

Speaker 14 (32:01):
I should be out in Park City skiing or something
like that, and I should be really, really retired, But
I you know, I mean, I could.

Speaker 12 (32:10):
Never live myself if I didn't do everything I could
to help.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Get rid of this. You know what you will find.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
There is a sense of self aggrandizement in the political
world unlike anything else I've ever seen. And it is
people who they have this martyr. You know, it's chaotic.
It's Don Quixote jousting at windmills. I at sixty two,

(32:44):
that's not that old to be retired by. I should
be on the slopes enjoying the snow, but instead here
I am battling to save the republic. No, you're making
a fool of yourself and you have no one to
go to the slopes with because your own family, your wife,
don't you, Your kids are a wreck.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You're a mess.
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