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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, lock and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Tremendous fraud is tremendous fraud, and it's hard to believe
that you can have that kind of fraud. Billions and
billions of dollars being thrown away illegally, and there's no chance,
I mean, I say it in front of our our
Attorney general. There's no chance that there's not kickbacks or
something going.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
One fraud cost taxpairs hundreds of millions of dollars every
year in California is ground zero. So basically, people steal
medicare numbers, they enroll them in hospices and then bill
for tens, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. A lot
of these companies are just fronts. So over seven hundred
of the roughly eighteen hundred hospices in La County triggered
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multiple red flags for possible fraud. So we went door
to door and what we found was empty office spaces,
piled up mail, and not a single healthcare worker.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We believe that the Somali fraud operation in Minnesota is
the single greatest theft of taxpayer dollars through welfare fraud.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In American history.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
We believe that we have only scratched the very top
of the surface of how deep this goes. And you're
familiar with all the scams, with pretending that children have
autism who are not in fact autistic, with pretending to
enroll people in food programs when in fact nobody would.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Ever enrolled all of us, of course, just passed tax Day.
None of us like paying our taxes, but we do it.
And why don't we do it? Because we know that
it goes to give a bite to a low income
family that can't afford food. We know that it goes
to pay the military who keep us safe. We know
that it goes to some essential services. But that trust,
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that trust in our government, that trust in our institution.
It depends on us taking that trust seriously. How long
are people to pay into programs if they know that
that money doesn't go to a low income kid who
needs health care, but that money goes into a fraudster
getting rich. This doesn't work and this doesn't make sense
(02:16):
unless we take God seriously.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
JD.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Vance spoke in was It Maine Today where he was
speaking the middle of the day, and he spoke about
this issue and what we're seeing right now really surprises
no one. It's just a scale and scope of it.
It's just more doge all over again. Is it a
governmental problem? Is it? Well, it's a little bit of everything,
(02:44):
but the painful reality that no one speaks of, so
I will is it when you bring people to this country,
or allow people to come to this country from cultures
where fraud is commonplace, it is accepted, it's almost expected.
(03:10):
That is not to paint with too broad a brush
at every person who comes here from let's say, Somalia
is a fraud, a scammer, a hustler, a charlatan. Not
to say that wouldn't be fair, not to be politically correct.
It wouldn't be fair because it's not true. But you
should expect, and we have seen that you are going
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to get a certain amount of that when people have lived,
including through their adult lives, in a culture where this
is a professional skill. It's a secret to survival. You
don't show up in Somalia and live an honest life
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and survive is catch as catch can. If we went
to the streets of let's say San Francisco, and we
embedded in a homeless community there, you would start noticing
pretty quickly that this is quite a different culture than
that to which you are accustomed. It's going to turn
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out that you're going to see widespread drug use. Okay,
to the point of the incapability of interacting with other
human beings in any functional way, Okay, we can talk
about that. It was not until you're in it that
you go, wow, this is an alternate reality, all right.
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You would expect it in that culture. If you leave
something of any real value in your tent, other people
are going to steal it. You would expect that you're
going to experience random acts of violence. Someone will welcome
and punch you, stab you, pull your hair, kick you.
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You wouldn't be surprised, right, You would expect people that
live in a different environment behave in a different way.
If you took one of those people and you put
them in the White House, or you put them in
charge of a business, you would expect that the culture
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to which they had become accustomed they would bring with them.
We're not surprised when people come to this country from
cultures that they bring their food with them. We're not
surprised that they bring their religious practices with them. We're
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not surprised when they bring their language or their customs
with them. There's fraud in every culture. But Somalia is
a country built on piracy. It always has been. It's
one of the most broken civilizations in the history of mankind,
modern history. Anyway, They've been able to accomplish almost nothing.
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It's not even in the real sense, a nation. It's
a place on a map. We're varying. Pirates hold space
and neighborhoods and blocks like gang warfare. But they're not builders,
they're not creators, they're not systems people, they're not organizational people.
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This is also true in Afghanistan, by the way, and
there comes a painful moment when the English, the Russians,
the Americans realized, oh, we're not fighting a national war,
a war with a nation. We're fighting little tribal groups.
None of what we're seeing with the Somali fraud should
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even surprise us. This is the Michael Berry Show. If
you have traveled broadly, you'll understand what I'm about to say.
If you travel to Mexico and you walk the streets
of Mexico, depends on what part of Mexico. Mexico is
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a very diverse country in terms of the citizenry and
the culture, depending on where you travel. If you travel
to as they say, defa the district, oh, federal there Washington,
d C. Their capital city, big city, one biggest city's
in the world, maybe the biggest. I don't know if
it is. It's it's it's a massive city just sprawls forever.
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And if you go there, it is much like New York.
It's very harsh. It's it's heavily populated, densely populated. There's
a great deal of pollution which you would expect, which
you would would see in in in a in a
big city. And and it's the people are moving fast.
(08:11):
They're not they're not taking time and you know, interacting
in the manner that if you like to go to
Originally it was Vera Cruz and Acapulco. Now it's it's uh,
maybe Plia del Carmen. Well, if you go to those places,
the tourist places, you're gonna you're gonna notice a different atmosphere.
(08:32):
And then if you go to to one of the
uh interior communities, it's this, it's it's it's like the
scene and the Godfather, uh, the early scenes when when
he goes to meet a wife, to take a wife,
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and it's it's it's just beautiful, beautiful, idyllic Bucolic communities,
very slow pace, and before the cartels these were beautiful places.
Americans would lose themselves down there. Just go down there
and kind of blend in and live out your final years,
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and your dollar went a long way, and it's a
slow pace of life. And then of course the cartels
moved in and there wasn't really anything to ever stop them,
and they bought off the government. But you expect a
different culture in Mexico. It's not so dramatically different than
the United States. But when you go to certain countries,
(09:36):
when you go to Japan, you notice when you get
on the train, there is an attitude about public Transportation's
an attitude by the employees who worked there. I read
you that the story the guy talked about the train
was three minutes late, and it was like it was,
you know, act of Congress. I mean, this was a
big deal. This was a riot act occasionist. You know,
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everyone was upset it was three minutes late, and three
and ites matters, because being on time matters, doing your
job well matters. Then you go to other cultures, other countries,
and nothing works and nobody cares. I've spent a lot
of time in India and the average person is not
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treated with dignity and respect in India. As it relates
to say, doing business with the government, you don't expect
the government to perform well, you don't expect things to
be on time. It's laughable. But those are coping techniques
because you grow accustomed to that. When you travel in Africa,
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you will notice I've not been to South Africa. I
think mindtioning is at least it used to be very different.
But with a lot of these subtropical climate countries, there
is not the dignity of man that we've grown to expect.
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There is not the idea that you must be treated
with respect. It is a much more casual view with
regard to structure, and you'll see it in the streets.
You see it in how the traffic moves, You'll see
it in how commerce is conducted. Somalia has been for
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literally hundreds of years, a pirate state. It's not even
a real state, not in the sense that we would
know a state to be. It's broken in the worst
possible way. The government shares power with potent tastes. And
by the way, sadly, because Mexico was once a wonderful country,
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Sadly this is going on in Mexico as well. The
cartels are at least at a minimum, like governors of
a state. There is a power sharing arrangement in Mexico
that is more informal. It's not obviously documented in a
treaty or a constitution or articles of confederation. But these
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are things that are alien to the American mind. And
back to Somalia, I'll pick on Somalia for a moment.
When the people who've learned to survive in those environments
come to the United States, we should expect that at
least some of them are going to bring those traits
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with them. We should we should expect that, we should
not be surprised. We should not expect that they're going
to share our values. My wife grew up in India,
finish college in India. I don't expect that she if
I make a reference to an etches sketch, that she
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will go, oh, yeah, I remember, and I remember doing
doing this because they didn't have an ECHI sketch in India.
I don't expect when I say, hey, what's the part
of speech again? I can't remember conjunction, junction? What's your funk?
What was the next line? I don't expect her to
know that. Why would she? Right, So, I wouldn't expect
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that people who come here from other countries share our
culture in ways that their cultures are different. If you
ever went to Somalia, no bed does. But if you
ever went there, nothing works, nothing, There is no rule
of law, there is no order, there is nothing that
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we would consider the hallmarks the fundamental foundation of society.
So in order to survive in a culture like that,
through no choice of your you didn't choose to be
born in Somalia, you didn't choose. That not your fault.
But it is also the case that you almost inherit
certainly learn survival skills in that culture that are antithetical
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to the American mindset and to the proper functioning of
a democrat republic. Right, So when you come here, we
either teach you our culture we used to call that
a melting pot, or we don't teach you our culture
because that would be horrible and terrible and suggest that
somehow we're better than you and then our culture is
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better than you. But it's not. Our culture is no
better than yours. Really, well, then why don't we go
there and live there? Why do they only come here
and love here, live here? That's odd. Our culture is
no better than their culture. But they all come here,
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and literally every one of them could if they would,
would if they could, and none of us go there.
Maybe our culture is better. Maybe we should teach them
our culture they we should share our culture so they
would follow our culture. Maybe we think that Chuck Norris
is the only person who can slam a revolving door
with them, Michael Berry, Chuck Norris can eat just one
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lazy potato chip.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Hello Michael, just checking in with the Tzar. Of course,
I'm not in mar Lago, home of the biggest beautiful
golf courses in pools you will ever see. Instead, I'm
in China, as you well know, Michael. They have a
big beautiful wall here, big beautiful wall.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
This would be.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Perfect for the Canadian border. It would be like Game
of Thrones. Now, I know you're the Tzar of talk, Michael,
and you know they love the history of the old
dynasties here, So we could call the King of Dean,
the King of Ming. He could man the wall all
by himself. Ramon's lost a lot of weight. He looks great.
He could take the stairs. Well, anyway, I have to run.
(15:53):
I'm touring a plastic toy plant today. You know they
love their plastic toy crap. Here, Michael, you later.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So then the question becomes, how do we deal with
wides spread fraud. We understand that when in some cases
you've got you just take mog of the issue. Minneapolis,
for example, you've got the vast majority of your daycare centers,
hospice center. This's going on in California, it's going on
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in Minnesota. It's happening everywhere. And by the way, it's
not limited to immigrants. I want to be clear on that.
But you have to look at recent immigrants as a
marginal problem that could have been stopped. Just stop all
immigration for a while till we sort things out. You know,
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when when a when a when a country, or when
a company is bleeding cash and you you bring in
a turnaround. God, a lot of times what you'll do
is you'll go in and shut everything off. That's costing money.
Let's get this thing sorted out before we right the ship.
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We got to stop the bleeding. That's got to happen.
So that's number one. Number two, we've got to address
from a private sector, non governmental national culture. Do we
want America to still be the America that we and
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the world knew and loved, Because I'm going to tell
you there are two things that cannot exist exist at
the same time. One is we are a great country
that provides wonderful benefits and opportunities and wealth creation and
the rule of law and freedom. Number two, that you're
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going to allow people to come in or homegrown who
are going to flout the laws and you're not going
to enforce them or punish anyone who does that. The
latter will collapse the former. And it's happening. It's happening.
This is why your debt is out of control. Nobody
stops to think about this. We're approaching forty trillion dollars
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in debt as a nation. It's unsustainable. How do we
get there? Forever Wars contribute, bailing out Ukraine contributes. But
guess what, we've got real internal domestic problems. We've got
a government writing checks to states who are then administering
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checks to agencies who are administering checks to third party
providers of hospice care, daycare, home care, you name it.
So people land in this country on Monday, and by
Tuesday they're applying for Well, I'm retarded, so I want
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to check, but I take care of my sister because
she's retired to I want to check. And then we
don't have any foods, or I want to check and
then oh, by the way, we got eighty five kids,
or I want to check. And you cannot sustain this. Now,
there was a moment years ago when these things started
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happening that it wasn't even detectable. It was it was
a pimple on this country, and you would have been
bringing people into this country, whether they want to call
them immigrants, illegals, refugees, assyles. There are all sorts of
different categories in which people came in. But the wealth
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of the country relative to the size of the fraud
was a good ratio, and over a period of time,
the size of the fraud grew exponentially because people who
are committing fraud are not idiots. Some of them are
very beat smart, very savvy, and they get better at
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doing this and they're shameless, the scale and scope of
what they're doing grows. This becomes their business. And for
many people who come here, let's say, from Somalia, for
some of those people, it was their business back there,
scamming the un scamming relief agencies. Can you blame them?
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Not like there was an opportunity, there was an engineering
firm that was hiring. Of course, you scavenge when you
live in a country like that. So when you pick
up a scavenger and you drop them in another country,
what do you expect them to do? So if we're
going to allow people to come to this country from
foreign countries, then we need to teach them our culture. Hey,
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this is how we do things. But we don't do that.
We don't because everyone is scared of upsetting someone. And
then you have these people who say it's not right
that you do that. Look at you. You're arrogant. You're
an arrogant American. You're an arrogant American. And this is
a white liberal thing to say, you're an arrogant American
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trying to tell other people what they should do. They're
on American soil. Yeah, feel comfortable doing that. When I
go to Japan, I expect them to show me when
to bow. I expect them to teach me how to
respond when someone bows, when someone hands me a business card,
when someone ushers me into a room, when I go
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to check into a hotel, I expect them to teach
me their culture, and I would respect their culture. I'm
in their country. I expect the same thing here. I'm
not angered by that. When I go to the UK,
I expect to drive on their side of the road,
wrong side of the road. But they're side of the
road because that's what they do. I am a visitor
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in their country. I don't show up and tell them
that they need to drive on my side of the road.
We have people showing up in this country telling us
that we need to accommodate the culture they can from,
and I'm saying, go back to that culture if that's
what you want. You left that culture because it's broken,
it's bankrupt, there's no opportunity, it's stressful. I don't want
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to live in a country where might makes right. My
mother was fond of the phrase, ain't a cowboy that
ain't never been throwed in a bull, They never been rowed.
I don't care how tough a world of Somali warlord
or whatever kind of warlord you are, there will always
be someone tougher. So no matter how much wealth you accumulate,
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there will always be someone who can strike you down
and steal what you've built. How about the Haitian culture?
The Haitian culture has been broken for hundreds of years.
What would we expect of people who've had to scavenge,
I mean brutal. Your heart has to go out to
these people. What would we expect of people who come
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from that culture and come to this country that they
would all of a sudden share the exact same values
that you share. Why would they? They weren't ever taught
those values. You don't take somebody who's never played American
football and put them in at quarterback and expect them
to make the right calls, expect them to throw a
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tight spiral, expect them to lead the receiver, and know what,
you wouldn't expect that they've never been taught. Culture is taught.
Culture is important. Culture that is not taught dies. I
want to pivot. We did an interview. I want to
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share with you a lot of folks in this country
are on Ozempic's up and bound will go be GLP
one doctor drugs, and it's it's very interesting. We're going
to talk to a doctor that I know well about
that subject. I don't know when I first heard reference
to ozempic. We'll start with ozempic, and I'm going to
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speak very generally on the subject. Ozembic really started as
a diabetes drug, and the relatively positive effects it was
having for managing diabetes were dramatic. I am interested in
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diabetes because my father is a severe diabetic and it's
been a subject in our home since as early as
I can remember. There was is a product called med Foreman,
and a number of people. There's somebody you know who
is on med Foreman, which is kind of a pre diabetes,
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rather aggressive and from my understanding, successful drug in managing
is it a one C it's called and so you
don't want that number to creep up. Diabetes is a
terrible problem. You don't want diabetes. Med Foreman keeps a
lot of people who were sort of at the cusp
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of this problem able to prevent full blown diabetes. Now,
that usually has to accompany some weight loss, at a minimum,
some weight loss. That is one of the factors that
triggers this problem. But when those empics started, I noted
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people that I knew who had been carrying some extra
weight started losing weight, and rather dramatically, and it was
weight that came off and made them. They didn't look sickly.
You ever see somebody you know that's lost weight and
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you can tell this wasn't intentional. They don't look healthy well.
O Zempic then became a drug that was being used,
as you could argue, a vanity drug, and not for
people who were morbidly obese. This was for suburban white
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moms who were carrying an extra twenty to forty pounds,
who didn't feel pretty anymore, couldn't wear the clothes they
wanted to wear, didn't Part of their identity was being
an attractive woman, and they didn't feel attractive anymore. And
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I think a lot of women feel fat, whether they
need to or not. But there is a legitimate you know,
you put on a pound of year and by the
time your kids are in high school, you're twenty pounds
overweight or twenty pounds above where you were. We could
argue over what is an ideal body weight, but you know,
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I don't think it's crazy are a bad thing that
women want to feel sexy, and in our culture today,
being thin is considered by many people, especially the women themselves, sexy.
They can wear different outfits, they can a different look,
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and it is true men will look an extra time.
So much like the erectile dysfunction drugs of the mid
to late nineties, Now, all of a sudden, you saw
these women who were losing weight, and it was changing
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their perspective, it was changing how they were looked at.
All sorts of things happen. Their husbands became sexually interested
on a higher level, and that may have been something
that hadn't happened in a very long time, So that
changes that dynamic. Read you an article a month or
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two ago of how many people that are on GLP
ones and losing weight are then getting divorces because all
of a sudden they feel sexy, they feel sexy, and
they're not happy in their marriage, and all of a
sudden they realize, oh, guys are paying attention to me,
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whether we like it or not. There is still a
part of each and every one of us that we
don't have absolute control over, and that is the sort
of more animal portion of us. The cravings, the fight
or flight, the sexual urges, these sorts of things, and
as a civilized society we say, well, you can't do this,
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and you can't do this, and it's not good. We'll
refrain from those. But there is most men who are
honest will admit if a really pretty girl goes by,
you notice you didn't choose to notice, You weren't in
the well, it's Thursday, I'll notice you notice. And there's
all sorts of funny memes. You know, you're watching a
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sporting event with pretty women in your wives posiety and
you take a photo and she turns it. What the
hell are you doing? These are very natural things, and
a lot of men have been browbeaten by women that
you know, you're not supposed to notice that there's another
woman and she's attracted. It's just stupid. This is a
feminized society that we have become, with dominant women and
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weak men who absolutely deny the most natural aspects of
who we are. But as this GLP one became more
widely known, you moved out. In fact, there was a
momentary crisis because diabetics had grown, had grown to need
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this ocempic and you couldn't buy ozempic because the vanity
crowd that wanted to lose weight was using it. So
they split the drug and they made a diabetes directed
drug and then a drug that took out a lot
of what was the benefit for the pancreatic benefit, the
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diabetes benefits, and it was just purely a weight loss drug.
And then that just blew up and ozmpic sort of
muddled along steady as she goes diabetes drug, but that
wasn't going to make anybody a billionaire. It was the
weight loss drug. And you saw them as they came out,
will Go v zeb Bound. One of my missing ramon
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that early round, I think was wigov and zeb bound,
and there might have been some others. And then all
of a sudden you probably noticed people you knew were
losing weight. And these were people who had carried that
amount of weight rather consistently for ten years or more.
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It had just kind of become who they were, and
you started seeing dramatic weight loss twenty pounds in a woman.
A woman goes from one sixty to one forty or
one forty one twenty, it's a dramatic difference in men.
I remember the first dad of a kid on Michael's
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football team who lost weight. And there is no person
that you or I know that would say to this
person if he walked into a party. We'd have a
party after every Friday night football game that, oh, this
guy needs to lose weight. Nobody would say that. But
he was carrying more weight than he would like to,
and he took that and we all looked over at
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him like, my goodness, what are you have you gone
into modeling? It just transformed who he was zero
It's that time time, time, time, lock and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Tremendous fraud is tremendous fraud, and it's hard to believe
that you can have that kind of fraud. Billions and
billions of dollars being thrown away illegally, and there's no chance,
I mean, I say it in front of our our
Attorney general. There's no chance that there's not kickbacks or
something going.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
One fraud cost taxpairs hundreds of millions of dollars every
year in California is ground zero. So basically, people steal
medicare numbers, they enroll them in hospices and then bill
for tens, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. A lot
of these companies are just fronts. So over seven hundred
of the roughly eighteen hundred hospices in La County triggered
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multiple red flags for possible fraud. So we went door
to door and what we found was empty office spaces,
piled up mail, and not a single healthcare worker.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
We believe that the Somali fraud operation in Minnesota is
the single greatest theft of taxpayer dollars through welfare fraud.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
In American history.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
We believe that we have only scratched the very top
of the surface of how deep this goes. And you're
familiar with all the scams, with pretending that children have
autism who are not in fact autistic, with pretending to
enroll people in food programs when in fact nobody would.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Ever enrolled all of us, of course, just passed tax Day.
None of us like paying our taxes, but we do it.
And why don't we do it? Because we know that
it goes to give a bite to a low income
family that can't afford food. We know that it goes
to pay the military who keep us safe. We know
that it goes to some essential services. But that trust,
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that trust in our government, that trust in our institution.
It depends on us taking that trust seriously. How long
are people to pay into programs if they know that
that money doesn't go to a low income kid who
needs health care, but that money goes into a fraudster
getting rich. This doesn't work and this doesn't make sense
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unless we take God seriously.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
JD.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Vance spoke in was It Maine Today where he was
speaking the middle of the day, and he spoke about
this issue and what we're seeing right now really surprises
no one. It's just a scale and scope of it.
It's just more doge all over again. Is it a
governmental problem? Is it? Well, it's a little bit of everything,
(02:44):
but the painful reality that no one speaks of, so
I will is it when you bring people to this country,
or allow people to come to this country from cultures
where fraud is commonplace, it is accepted, it's almost expected.
(03:10):
That is not to paint with too broad a brush
at every person who comes here from let's say, Somalia
is a fraud, a scammer, a hustler, a charlatan. Not
to say that wouldn't be fair, not to be politically correct.
It wouldn't be fair because it's not true. But you
should expect, and we have seen that you are going
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to get a certain amount of that when people have lived,
including through their adult lives, in a culture where this
is a professional skill. It's a secret to survival. You
don't show up in Somalia and live an honest life
(03:54):
and survive is catch as catch can. If we went
to the streets of let's say San Francisco, and we
embedded in a homeless community there, you would start noticing
pretty quickly that this is quite a different culture than
that to which you are accustomed. It's going to turn
(04:18):
out that you're going to see widespread drug use. Okay,
to the point of the incapability of interacting with other
human beings in any functional way, Okay, we can talk
about that. It was not until you're in it that
you go, wow, this is an alternate reality, all right.
(04:39):
You would expect it in that culture. If you leave
something of any real value in your tent, other people
are going to steal it. You would expect that you're
going to experience random acts of violence. Someone will welcome
and punch you, stab you, pull your hair, kick you.
(05:03):
You wouldn't be surprised, right, You would expect people that
live in a different environment behave in a different way.
If you took one of those people and you put
them in the White House, or you put them in
charge of a business, you would expect that the culture
(05:23):
to which they had become accustomed they would bring with them.
We're not surprised when people come to this country from
cultures that they bring their food with them. We're not
surprised that they bring their religious practices with them. We're
(05:44):
not surprised when they bring their language or their customs
with them. There's fraud in every culture. But Somalia is
a country built on piracy. It always has been. It's
one of the most broken civilizations in the history of mankind,
modern history. Anyway, They've been able to accomplish almost nothing.
(06:10):
It's not even in the real sense, a nation. It's
a place on a map. We're varying. Pirates hold space
and neighborhoods and blocks like gang warfare. But they're not builders,
they're not creators, they're not systems people, they're not organizational people.
(06:35):
This is also true in Afghanistan, by the way, and
there comes a painful moment when the English, the Russians,
the Americans realized, oh, we're not fighting a national war,
a war with a nation. We're fighting little tribal groups.
None of what we're seeing with the Somali fraud should
(06:58):
even surprise us. This is the Michael Berry Show. If
you have traveled broadly, you'll understand what I'm about to say.
If you travel to Mexico and you walk the streets
of Mexico, depends on what part of Mexico. Mexico is
(07:20):
a very diverse country in terms of the citizenry and
the culture, depending on where you travel. If you travel
to as they say, defa the district, oh, federal there Washington,
d C. Their capital city, big city, one biggest city's
in the world, maybe the biggest. I don't know if
it is. It's it's it's a massive city just sprawls forever.
(07:45):
And if you go there, it is much like New York.
It's very harsh. It's it's heavily populated, densely populated. There's
a great deal of pollution which you would expect, which
you would would see in in in a in a
big city. And and it's the people are moving fast.
(08:11):
They're not they're not taking time and you know, interacting
in the manner that if you like to go to
Originally it was Vera Cruz and Acapulco. Now it's it's uh,
maybe Plia del Carmen. Well, if you go to those places,
the tourist places, you're gonna you're gonna notice a different atmosphere.
(08:32):
And then if you go to to one of the
uh interior communities, it's this, it's it's it's like the
scene and the Godfather, uh, the early scenes when when
he goes to meet a wife, to take a wife,
(08:53):
and it's it's it's just beautiful, beautiful, idyllic Bucolic communities,
very slow pace, and before the cartels these were beautiful places.
Americans would lose themselves down there. Just go down there
and kind of blend in and live out your final years,
(09:14):
and your dollar went a long way, and it's a
slow pace of life. And then of course the cartels
moved in and there wasn't really anything to ever stop them,
and they bought off the government. But you expect a
different culture in Mexico. It's not so dramatically different than
the United States. But when you go to certain countries,
(09:36):
when you go to Japan, you notice when you get
on the train, there is an attitude about public Transportation's
an attitude by the employees who worked there. I read
you that the story the guy talked about the train
was three minutes late, and it was like it was,
you know, act of Congress. I mean, this was a
big deal. This was a riot act occasionist. You know,
(09:57):
everyone was upset it was three minutes late, and three
and ites matters, because being on time matters, doing your
job well matters. Then you go to other cultures, other countries,
and nothing works and nobody cares. I've spent a lot
of time in India and the average person is not
(10:18):
treated with dignity and respect in India. As it relates
to say, doing business with the government, you don't expect
the government to perform well, you don't expect things to
be on time. It's laughable. But those are coping techniques
because you grow accustomed to that. When you travel in Africa,
(10:40):
you will notice I've not been to South Africa. I
think mindtioning is at least it used to be very different.
But with a lot of these subtropical climate countries, there
is not the dignity of man that we've grown to expect.
(11:00):
There is not the idea that you must be treated
with respect. It is a much more casual view with
regard to structure, and you'll see it in the streets.
You see it in how the traffic moves, You'll see
it in how commerce is conducted. Somalia has been for
(11:23):
literally hundreds of years, a pirate state. It's not even
a real state, not in the sense that we would
know a state to be. It's broken in the worst
possible way. The government shares power with potent tastes. And
by the way, sadly, because Mexico was once a wonderful country,
(11:46):
Sadly this is going on in Mexico as well. The
cartels are at least at a minimum, like governors of
a state. There is a power sharing arrangement in Mexico
that is more informal. It's not obviously documented in a
treaty or a constitution or articles of confederation. But these
(12:08):
are things that are alien to the American mind. And
back to Somalia, I'll pick on Somalia for a moment.
When the people who've learned to survive in those environments
come to the United States, we should expect that at
least some of them are going to bring those traits
(12:31):
with them. We should we should expect that, we should
not be surprised. We should not expect that they're going
to share our values. My wife grew up in India,
finish college in India. I don't expect that she if
I make a reference to an etches sketch, that she
(12:51):
will go, oh, yeah, I remember, and I remember doing
doing this because they didn't have an ECHI sketch in India.
I don't expect when I say, hey, what's the part
of speech again? I can't remember conjunction, junction? What's your funk?
What was the next line? I don't expect her to
know that. Why would she? Right, So, I wouldn't expect
(13:18):
that people who come here from other countries share our
culture in ways that their cultures are different. If you
ever went to Somalia, no bed does. But if you
ever went there, nothing works, nothing, There is no rule
of law, there is no order, there is nothing that
(13:41):
we would consider the hallmarks the fundamental foundation of society.
So in order to survive in a culture like that,
through no choice of your you didn't choose to be
born in Somalia, you didn't choose. That not your fault.
But it is also the case that you almost inherit
certainly learn survival skills in that culture that are antithetical
(14:09):
to the American mindset and to the proper functioning of
a democrat republic. Right, So when you come here, we
either teach you our culture we used to call that
a melting pot, or we don't teach you our culture
because that would be horrible and terrible and suggest that
somehow we're better than you and then our culture is
(14:32):
better than you. But it's not. Our culture is no
better than yours. Really, well, then why don't we go
there and live there? Why do they only come here
and love here, live here? That's odd. Our culture is
no better than their culture. But they all come here,
(14:53):
and literally every one of them could if they would,
would if they could, and none of us go there.
Maybe our culture is better. Maybe we should teach them
our culture they we should share our culture so they
would follow our culture. Maybe we think that Chuck Norris
is the only person who can slam a revolving door
with them, Michael Berry, Chuck Norris can eat just one
(15:13):
lazy potato chip.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Hello Michael, just checking in with the Tzar. Of course,
I'm not in mar Lago, home of the biggest beautiful
golf courses in pools you will ever see. Instead, I'm
in China, as you well know, Michael. They have a
big beautiful wall here, big beautiful wall.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
This would be.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Perfect for the Canadian border. It would be like Game
of Thrones. Now, I know you're the Tzar of talk, Michael,
and you know they love the history of the old
dynasties here, So we could call the King of Dean,
the King of Ming. He could man the wall all
by himself. Ramon's lost a lot of weight. He looks great.
He could take the stairs. Well, anyway, I have to run.
(15:53):
I'm touring a plastic toy plant today. You know they
love their plastic toy crap. Here, Michael, you later.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So then the question becomes, how do we deal with
wides spread fraud. We understand that when in some cases
you've got you just take mog of the issue. Minneapolis,
for example, you've got the vast majority of your daycare centers,
hospice center. This's going on in California, it's going on
(16:24):
in Minnesota. It's happening everywhere. And by the way, it's
not limited to immigrants. I want to be clear on that.
But you have to look at recent immigrants as a
marginal problem that could have been stopped. Just stop all
immigration for a while till we sort things out. You know,
(16:47):
when when a when a when a country, or when
a company is bleeding cash and you you bring in
a turnaround. God, a lot of times what you'll do
is you'll go in and shut everything off. That's costing money.
Let's get this thing sorted out before we right the ship.
(17:10):
We got to stop the bleeding. That's got to happen.
So that's number one. Number two, we've got to address
from a private sector, non governmental national culture. Do we
want America to still be the America that we and
(17:32):
the world knew and loved, Because I'm going to tell
you there are two things that cannot exist exist at
the same time. One is we are a great country
that provides wonderful benefits and opportunities and wealth creation and
the rule of law and freedom. Number two, that you're
(17:55):
going to allow people to come in or homegrown who
are going to flout the laws and you're not going
to enforce them or punish anyone who does that. The
latter will collapse the former. And it's happening. It's happening.
This is why your debt is out of control. Nobody
stops to think about this. We're approaching forty trillion dollars
(18:17):
in debt as a nation. It's unsustainable. How do we
get there? Forever Wars contribute, bailing out Ukraine contributes. But
guess what, we've got real internal domestic problems. We've got
a government writing checks to states who are then administering
(18:39):
checks to agencies who are administering checks to third party
providers of hospice care, daycare, home care, you name it.
So people land in this country on Monday, and by
Tuesday they're applying for Well, I'm retarded, so I want
(18:59):
to check, but I take care of my sister because
she's retired to I want to check. And then we
don't have any foods, or I want to check and
then oh, by the way, we got eighty five kids,
or I want to check. And you cannot sustain this. Now,
there was a moment years ago when these things started
(19:19):
happening that it wasn't even detectable. It was it was
a pimple on this country, and you would have been
bringing people into this country, whether they want to call
them immigrants, illegals, refugees, assyles. There are all sorts of
different categories in which people came in. But the wealth
(19:41):
of the country relative to the size of the fraud
was a good ratio, and over a period of time,
the size of the fraud grew exponentially because people who
are committing fraud are not idiots. Some of them are
very beat smart, very savvy, and they get better at
(20:02):
doing this and they're shameless, the scale and scope of
what they're doing grows. This becomes their business. And for
many people who come here, let's say, from Somalia, for
some of those people, it was their business back there,
scamming the un scamming relief agencies. Can you blame them?
(20:25):
Not like there was an opportunity, there was an engineering
firm that was hiring. Of course, you scavenge when you
live in a country like that. So when you pick
up a scavenger and you drop them in another country,
what do you expect them to do? So if we're
going to allow people to come to this country from
foreign countries, then we need to teach them our culture. Hey,
(20:47):
this is how we do things. But we don't do that.
We don't because everyone is scared of upsetting someone. And
then you have these people who say it's not right
that you do that. Look at you. You're arrogant. You're
an arrogant American. You're an arrogant American. And this is
a white liberal thing to say, you're an arrogant American
(21:09):
trying to tell other people what they should do. They're
on American soil. Yeah, feel comfortable doing that. When I
go to Japan, I expect them to show me when
to bow. I expect them to teach me how to
respond when someone bows, when someone hands me a business card,
when someone ushers me into a room, when I go
(21:29):
to check into a hotel, I expect them to teach
me their culture, and I would respect their culture. I'm
in their country. I expect the same thing here. I'm
not angered by that. When I go to the UK,
I expect to drive on their side of the road,
wrong side of the road. But they're side of the
road because that's what they do. I am a visitor
(21:50):
in their country. I don't show up and tell them
that they need to drive on my side of the road.
We have people showing up in this country telling us
that we need to accommodate the culture they can from,
and I'm saying, go back to that culture if that's
what you want. You left that culture because it's broken,
it's bankrupt, there's no opportunity, it's stressful. I don't want
(22:10):
to live in a country where might makes right. My
mother was fond of the phrase, ain't a cowboy that
ain't never been throwed in a bull, They never been rowed.
I don't care how tough a world of Somali warlord
or whatever kind of warlord you are, there will always
be someone tougher. So no matter how much wealth you accumulate,
(22:31):
there will always be someone who can strike you down
and steal what you've built. How about the Haitian culture?
The Haitian culture has been broken for hundreds of years.
What would we expect of people who've had to scavenge,
I mean brutal. Your heart has to go out to
these people. What would we expect of people who come
(22:53):
from that culture and come to this country that they
would all of a sudden share the exact same values
that you share. Why would they? They weren't ever taught
those values. You don't take somebody who's never played American
football and put them in at quarterback and expect them
to make the right calls, expect them to throw a
(23:15):
tight spiral, expect them to lead the receiver, and know what,
you wouldn't expect that they've never been taught. Culture is taught.
Culture is important. Culture that is not taught dies. I
want to pivot. We did an interview. I want to
(23:36):
share with you a lot of folks in this country
are on Ozempic's up and bound will go be GLP
one doctor drugs, and it's it's very interesting. We're going
to talk to a doctor that I know well about
that subject. I don't know when I first heard reference
to ozempic. We'll start with ozempic, and I'm going to
(24:01):
speak very generally on the subject. Ozembic really started as
a diabetes drug, and the relatively positive effects it was
having for managing diabetes were dramatic. I am interested in
(24:26):
diabetes because my father is a severe diabetic and it's
been a subject in our home since as early as
I can remember. There was is a product called med Foreman,
and a number of people. There's somebody you know who
is on med Foreman, which is kind of a pre diabetes,
(24:48):
rather aggressive and from my understanding, successful drug in managing
is it a one C it's called and so you
don't want that number to creep up. Diabetes is a
terrible problem. You don't want diabetes. Med Foreman keeps a
lot of people who were sort of at the cusp
(25:11):
of this problem able to prevent full blown diabetes. Now,
that usually has to accompany some weight loss, at a minimum,
some weight loss. That is one of the factors that
triggers this problem. But when those empics started, I noted
(25:34):
people that I knew who had been carrying some extra
weight started losing weight, and rather dramatically, and it was
weight that came off and made them. They didn't look sickly.
You ever see somebody you know that's lost weight and
(25:56):
you can tell this wasn't intentional. They don't look healthy well.
O Zempic then became a drug that was being used,
as you could argue, a vanity drug, and not for
people who were morbidly obese. This was for suburban white
(26:22):
moms who were carrying an extra twenty to forty pounds,
who didn't feel pretty anymore, couldn't wear the clothes they
wanted to wear, didn't Part of their identity was being
an attractive woman, and they didn't feel attractive anymore. And
(26:46):
I think a lot of women feel fat, whether they
need to or not. But there is a legitimate you know,
you put on a pound of year and by the
time your kids are in high school, you're twenty pounds
overweight or twenty pounds above where you were. We could
argue over what is an ideal body weight, but you know,
(27:07):
I don't think it's crazy are a bad thing that
women want to feel sexy, and in our culture today,
being thin is considered by many people, especially the women themselves, sexy.
They can wear different outfits, they can a different look,
(27:29):
and it is true men will look an extra time.
So much like the erectile dysfunction drugs of the mid
to late nineties, Now, all of a sudden, you saw
these women who were losing weight, and it was changing
(27:51):
their perspective, it was changing how they were looked at.
All sorts of things happen. Their husbands became sexually interested
on a higher level, and that may have been something
that hadn't happened in a very long time, So that
changes that dynamic. Read you an article a month or
(28:11):
two ago of how many people that are on GLP
ones and losing weight are then getting divorces because all
of a sudden they feel sexy, they feel sexy, and
they're not happy in their marriage, and all of a
sudden they realize, oh, guys are paying attention to me,
(28:33):
whether we like it or not. There is still a
part of each and every one of us that we
don't have absolute control over, and that is the sort
of more animal portion of us. The cravings, the fight
or flight, the sexual urges, these sorts of things, and
as a civilized society we say, well, you can't do this,
(28:54):
and you can't do this, and it's not good. We'll
refrain from those. But there is most men who are
honest will admit if a really pretty girl goes by,
you notice you didn't choose to notice, You weren't in
the well, it's Thursday, I'll notice you notice. And there's
all sorts of funny memes. You know, you're watching a
(29:17):
sporting event with pretty women in your wives posiety and
you take a photo and she turns it. What the
hell are you doing? These are very natural things, and
a lot of men have been browbeaten by women that
you know, you're not supposed to notice that there's another
woman and she's attracted. It's just stupid. This is a
feminized society that we have become, with dominant women and
(29:40):
weak men who absolutely deny the most natural aspects of
who we are. But as this GLP one became more
widely known, you moved out. In fact, there was a
momentary crisis because diabetics had grown, had grown to need
(30:02):
this ocempic and you couldn't buy ozempic because the vanity
crowd that wanted to lose weight was using it. So
they split the drug and they made a diabetes directed
drug and then a drug that took out a lot
of what was the benefit for the pancreatic benefit, the
(30:24):
diabetes benefits, and it was just purely a weight loss drug.
And then that just blew up and ozmpic sort of
muddled along steady as she goes diabetes drug, but that
wasn't going to make anybody a billionaire. It was the
weight loss drug. And you saw them as they came out,
will Go v zeb Bound. One of my missing ramon
(30:47):
that early round, I think was wigov and zeb bound,
and there might have been some others. And then all
of a sudden you probably noticed people you knew were
losing weight. And these were people who had carried that
amount of weight rather consistently for ten years or more.
(31:07):
It had just kind of become who they were, and
you started seeing dramatic weight loss twenty pounds in a woman.
A woman goes from one sixty to one forty or
one forty one twenty, it's a dramatic difference in men.
I remember the first dad of a kid on Michael's
(31:28):
football team who lost weight. And there is no person
that you or I know that would say to this
person if he walked into a party. We'd have a
party after every Friday night football game that, oh, this
guy needs to lose weight. Nobody would say that. But
he was carrying more weight than he would like to,
and he took that and we all looked over at
(31:49):
him like, my goodness, what are you have you gone
into modeling? It just transformed who he was zero
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