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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This aspect of what is now being investigated as a
as a second attempted assassination of former President Trump has
been identified. If I already say, his name is Ryan
Wesley Roath. He allegedly poked his muzzle of his AK
forty seven star rifle through a Chanling fence as he
was hiding in the bushes of former President Trump's golf
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course at West Palm Beach, Florida. That's when an agent
saw it and opened fire.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
With a long history, you know, that's a little bit old.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
That that archs a couple of months old.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And if you want to really see.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Something that said, take a look at what.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Happened over.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people
carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did
the president then at the time say, there were fine
people on each side, but.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You also had people that were very fine people on
both sides.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And you had people and.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white
nationalist because they should be condemned totally.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election. There
will be a blood bath if this and the outcome
of this election is not to his liking.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Those big monster car manufacturing plans that you're building in
Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that,
you're going to not hire Americans and you're going to
sell the cars. Now, We're going to put a one
hundred percent tower for in every single car that comes
across the line, and you're not going to be able
to sell those cards if I get elected. Now, if
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I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath
for the whole that's going to be the least of it.
It's going to be a blood bed for the country
that'll be.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
The least want to be Trump assassin sentenced to life
in prison plus seven years or his twenty twenty four
attempt on then presidential candidate then former president Donald Trump
at his West Palm Beach golf club.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The story from CBS News.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Ryan Routh had the opportunity to speak on his own
behalf in court today, and this is often an opportunity
for a defendant to show remorse and maybe hope for
some mercy from a judge. But that's one thing that
Ryan Routh did not say. He did not express any remorse.
What he did do is he had a twenty page
essay I'm told read, and he read from it. The
judge allowed for about fifteen minutes. In it, he talked
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about wanting to be exchanged with a political prisoner around
the world. He mentioned Gaza and Hong Kong. He said
that he hoped that he could alleviate someone else's suffering.
Something that he has said throughout this process says is
that he is someone who is all about peace. During
the trial, he talked about being non violent and about gentleness.
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The prosecution says otherwise, though. They say this was a
premeditated crime, that he tried to assassinate a major presidential candidate,
now our President Trump, and this was only stopped because
of a Secret Service agent who spotted Ryan Routh in
the fence line at Trump's golf course. Trump was just
one hole away when this happened. Judge Eileen Cannon today
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she called that agent a hero reached. She also had
some very harsh words for Ryan Routh. She told him,
your criminal actions speak for themselves and go against your
claims of benevolence. The evil is in you, sir, she said,
And she also told him, you've feigned peacefulness throughout this
whole trial, but you are not a good man.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You think he is evil.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Charlie was assassinated speaking at a university trying to encourage
people to talk out their differences.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Rather than.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Take to violence, and they killed him for that. President
Trump was shot in the head. By all accounts, he
should have been dead. Think about that. He was a
candidate at the time. What would that have done to
the presidential race? What would have done to the country.
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I don't know if these people want civil war or not,
but I know if they wanted civil war, they're doing
everything possible to ensure it. Look what they're doing. Steve Calise,
Steve Scalise should, by all accounts, be dead.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He did die out on softball field.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Just Manister survive some way, somehow they shot They riddled
him with bullets. Another crazy Democrat shooting a Republican Rand
Paul out mowing the grass his own grass in Kentucky.
His crazy liberal neighbor comes up behind him, hits him
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in the ribs enough times to puncture his ribs sucker punch.
Rand Paul barely survived. That could have died, on and
on and on. We are under attacked by these bastards,
nothing short of it. Think about that. That's what's happening.
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It's not our people. Oh, January sixth was a terrorist attack.
We were told that, you see, it was very important
to muddy the waters. Well, there's just too much violence everywhere.
January six was not a violent attack. There weren't any weapons.
There weren't any guns. Nobody would at risk. The worst
crime committed was somebody put their boots on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Please.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
We were told they feared for their lives, but did
they The only shot that was fired was by Michael Byrd,
Capitol police officer, into an unarmed, tiny little woman who
posed no threat, who was also a veteran, and they
didn't want to release her information. They're attacking ICE agents,
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they're blockading the streets, they're burning buildings. The left is
out of control, absolutely out of control. President Trump was
on MS was on US our NBC with Tony Lamas.
He was asked about the shooting deaths in Minnesota, and
he had this to say.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
After the shooting of Vernade Good, you said ICE made
some mistakes. What were the mistakes. Well, look, I'm not
happy with the two incidents. It's not you know, it's
both of them got to one or the other. He
was not an angel and she was not an angel.
You know, you look at some tapes from back, but sal,
I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
With what happened there.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
You know what, this is important. Hold that I just russed.
We're up against the clock. I want to play that.
I think it's an important answer. I think I think
the president's thoughts on what's going on in this situation
is important.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But I want to be very clear.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't want to suggest that any death is not important,
because they are especially to the people around them.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But the one death of.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
This person, there are a lot of people getting killed
in this country by the League of Aliens. They got
no parade and no remember their name. Yeah, he's got
it all. I want you to imagine your life. This
isn't a screenplay, this isn't a stage production, this isn't
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a sporting performance. I want you to imagine in your life,
whether you are a veteran or not, that you are
doing the most selfless thing you've ever done in your life,
feeling righteous about it, and in that process you are
betrayed and imprisoned. You're put in a jail cell nine
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months until a trial where you will serve for life.
You don't need to be a Navy sealed to understand
the concept that these guys are supposed to have a
very deep bond. There is a member of the US
Congress who's just been elected that year, it's twenty nineteen,
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and you're hearing that he's going to help you, and
you come to find out that not only did he
not help your case, that when fifty members of Congress
signed a letter when the President supported your case, fifty
members of Congress five zero signed a letter for you
to be released so that you could prepare for trial.
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You find out, as Eddie Gallagher did, that Dan Crenshaw
was going to those members and telling them don't support him.
There's a fascinating video about all this online. You can
see all of this. Just look up Eddie Gallagher, Dan
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Crenshaw's it's out there. There are a lot of people,
especially in the special ops communities, but not only in
this but a lot of people in the political community
talking about this.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And the video is I forget who the person is.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
He asked Dan Crenshaw, Well, well, why don't you sit
down with Eddie Gallagher and talk this out?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Man demand.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And Crenshaw says, what is there to say? Well, yeah,
it feels like you helped try to keep him in
prison for life. And Crenshaw and the reviewer says, oop
of ball. I can't remember the guy's name. He says,
the veteran community hates you. Crenshaw's response is not everyone
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in the veteran community. Maybe the vet bros. Wow, So
so you you fought with David Goggins because you don't
think he's Navy seal enough. You fought with Sean Ryan
because he asked a question about the stock trades you
made fair game, by the way, the Free Press asked
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you about it, and you dropped an F bomb and said, okay,
so what we.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Just won't make any money? Then what we don't? We
don't make very much money? Whoa WHOA dude?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Is that when you went to Congress? Tucker Carlson questioned him,
and he tells a reporter when he thinks to Mike,
is off I ever cutch him, I'll kill him. He
goes to a town hall back in the district. Well,
a little girl says, you referred to Jesus Christ as
a superman archetype, and he said, don't you question my faith?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And the audience was blown away.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
There is Dan Crenshaw that when people see they realize
this guy is not who I thought he was. This
is not the guy I campaigned very hard for, and
I have a responsibility as to a lot of other people.
And they felt it to stand up and say he
shouldn't go back to Congress. We just happened to have
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the fortunate situation that we're not trying to elect a
Ham Sandwich. Steve Toath will make a great congressman. This
is a this is a once in a generation opportunity
to show a member of Congress and every other member
of Congress who's watching, you can't behave that way and
keep getting re elected just because you have all the
money in the establishment. Eddie Gallagher is that man who
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was imprisoned, who found himself in that situation. I heard
one special OPSCA doing a podcast where he said, of
Eddie Gllagher, my only disagreement with Eddie Gallagher is I
can't imagine how he doesn't take more drastic actions. He's
a more controlled man than I am. Welcome to the program.
Eddie Galagher.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Hey, thank you for having me. Folks.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I'm going to tell you this story is so explosive
it will blow your mind.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You won't be able to believe that this actually happened. Eddie.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Let's start from I'm going to work in a reverse
linear fashion because I want to get to your background
and I want to get to all the ways that
you ended up where you were. But let's assume, for
somebody that's about to walk in the office, you're in jail.
You've been accused of killing a little girl and an
old man on Father's Day. Isis perhaps did that? And
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you're sitting in jail, rotting, not able to prepare for
your trial, and you're thinking that Dan Crenshaw will help you,
and then what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, so you're correct on that. I was sitting in
pre facing those charges, and at that time, my wife
Andrea and my brother Sean were drastically taking measures to
get people to notice what was going on. They were
going to Congress, talking to every Congressman that they could.
At least my brother was at the time in one
of the congressmen. Names that kept coming up. Obviously, was
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Dan Crenshaw because he was a newly meant to congressman
and he came from the same community as I did.
So when my brother went to him and asked if
he would support he got no answer the first couple
of times, and he kept going back and finally Dan
told him, hey.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'll let me look into it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'll see what I can do, which is a valid answer, right,
especially with the charges that I was facing. I would
if I was a congressman. I want to do a
little digging in myself. And obviously what you stated earlier, yes,
they Eventually we ended up getting fifty congressmen to sign
a letter to release me from prison so I could
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properly prepare for trial, because at the time, while I
was locked up, I was not afforded any of the
rights a servicemen my service numbers should be awarded, which
is being able to talk to my lawyers, getting medical visits,
just simple stuff like that. All that was taken from me.
So the fifty congressman signed on to a letter to
get me released from prison, Dan Crenshaw would not sign
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that letter. Instead, he wrote his own letter saying that
I belonged in prison to keep me in prison but dead,
just to have afforded me the rights that I deserved,
which is talked to my.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Lawyers, Eddie. He didn't believe you would ever know about
that letter? Did he.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Say that again?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did he believe that? You know what?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I'll ask you this question coming up in just a moment,
Eddie Gallagher is are yes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Eddie Gallagher served his country as a Navy seal.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
He expected bad guys to take shots at him while
in war. He got caught up in some really really
nasty politics. We've seen this happen before, and he would
eventually go to trial and he would be acquitted. It
was determined that he was not guilty, but it put
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him through hell. That's not why we're talking to him.
We're talking to him because the last thing you would
expect is another guy from the teams, another Navy seal,
would betray you. And he says, that's exactly what happened,
Eddie GALLAGHERY fifty members of Congress wrote a letter asking
that you'd be released so that you could prepare for
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your trial where you were facing life in prison, and
Dan Crenshaw did not.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He wrote his own letter. Did he know?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Did he expect that you would find out about that letter.
Was it done in secrecy?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
No, it was not done in secrecy. As a matter
of fact, when we found out, when my wife and
brother found out he was writing that second letter, they
messaged him and said, please do not do this letter.
Do not send it in because it's distracting from the
other letter the other fifty congressman time, and Dan did
not listen to them. He did it anyways, submitted it
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and it ended up not working. The original letter the
fifty congressman signed worked. I was released from prison, and
at that point we decided to write Dan Crenshaw off.
Were like, we're no longer going to ask him for help.
And so we continued on, and like you said, I
went to trial was acquitted of all charges. And it
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wasn't until after I had retired. We went to Congress
to thank the fifty congressman for signing that letter, and
while I was there, I was pulled aside by numerous congressmen,
Matt Gates, Ralph Norman, Louis Gohmer, and they all expressed concern.
They said, hey, we want to let you know that
Dan Crenshaw was actively working against you. That they told
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he was telling other congressmen to butt out that it
was not their community, it was his, and that he
would handle it and that I belonged in prison. And
so when I heard that from these congressman, that's when
my wife and I talked about it, and I said,
should we let people know that this happened. And even
then we didn't put anything out about it. We're like,
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you know what, he's a politician. We didn't expect anything
less really, even though he comes from our community, and
we'll just carry on with our lives. And it wasn't
until a couple of years later when he started bad
mouthing me on two other seals, one being David Goggins.
He was messaging David Goggins and saying all sorts of
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stuff about me, and David Goggins sent me that message,
and that's when my wife and I decided, you know what,
we need to do a video and just let people
know what Dan's true character is.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It's been alleged that he was messaging David Goggins positively
about liking him and thinking he's great, and then all
the while also went and trash gate David Goggins as well,
saying I don't see that he's a real seal. He
just talks about right the sense of betrayal. And then
there is the Sean Ryan issue where Sean Ryan asked
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questions which we should do of Dan Crenshaw's behavior, and
then he has his lawyers send a cease and assist.
I also got a cease and assist over the same issue.
And Sean Ryan said that either Sean Ryan or his
lawyer spoke with Crenshaw's lawyers and they said, they said,
what Sean Ryan or his lawyers said, what are you
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doing with these lawsuits? This is ridiculous. They said, Oh,
we don't actually sue anybody. We just try to intimidate
them to stop talking about Dan. This pattern continues again
and again and again. You know, your issue was twenty nineteen,
he was a new congressman, but this issue has continued
throughout the course of his time. Eddie Gallagher. I want
to go back to your case that was twenty nineteen.
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I saw an interview that you did. It was a YouTube,
some video you were talking about. You were at an
event and you're walking down the hall and you spot
him coming down the hallway and he drops his head
and avoids averts your eye. He cannot make eye contact
with you, he cannot speak to you.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Can you tell that story?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Sure? Yeah. It wasn't too long after I retired. And
actually this was after I had already found out that
Dan was working against Mari when the congressman told me,
and I saw him at a Turning Point USA event
in the morning, and I honestly just wanted to go
up and talk to him and find out why he
took the actions that he did, just team got a
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team guy. But as soon as he saw me, he
put his head down and scurried right past me as
fast as he could with his little entourage. And that
was the first time I tried to actually establish some
kind of communications with him to find out, you know,
why he was doing the things he did. I've over
the past five years, I've given ample opportunity to talk
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to him behind closed doors publicly, whatever he wanted to do,
just to hash things out, and each and every time
that it is offered, he instead of actually talking to me,
he goes and bad mouths me and some other former
fashion I have a litany of text messages from other
companies friends that I have or Dan reaches out to
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them telling them that they're not allowed to talk to me,
that they should not be working with me or be
friends with me.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I mean, it gets that petty.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And so we've never I've never had the chance to
sit down with him and talk face to face.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But what I do think is kind.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Of funny, Mike, is that just the other day, when
Steve Toth announced that I would be coming out to
Dan's district to speak the truth about what his you know,
his character flaws, I received a letter in the mail
two days before I flew out here, and it was
from Dan, the first time he's ever reached out. And
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in that letter there is no accountability. It is all that, oh,
this has been a big communication, and that you don't
really understand what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know, Dan, I'll say this, out of all the.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Allegations that have come across these past five years, when
you've brought it up with Sean, Ryan, Tuckercarls and all
these things, you know, no man is perfect. Everybody makes mistakes,
but the inability to hold yourself accountable is a huge
character flaw. And I can tell you you know, if
you look at the book in the past, any man
with power, if.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You see his fall.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's usually due to one thing, and that's the inability
to control one's ego. And that's what we have with
Dan Crenshaw. Pride go with before a fall. There is
a level of.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Hubris and pride and arrogance and anger that are the
combustible mix of Cringeshaw that make him such a troubling
He's also duplicitous. He's two faces. I want to go
back the idea. You know, he could have chosen not
to help you, and that would have been dirty. But
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he didn't just choose not to help you. You said
you learned from credible sources other members of Congress that
he was working to keep you in jail. This isn't
whether you would be punished for what you were accused of.
We'll get to that. You were acquitted. The prosecutors were
stripped of their medals. This was a very political case.
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One of the Navy seals that was supposed to be
the witness breaks down on trial. All of that aside,
and he knew all that he had to because as
a member of Congress and a Navy seal, he could
have called the Department of Defense and gotten a briefing
on this, and yet he chose not only to not
get involved, but to actively get involved to try to
ruin you. This is not being dramatic here, this is
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literally trying to ruin you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yes, and you know, I think that's politics and a
nutshell right there.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh, I know, I disagree, Eddie. I've known a lot
of politicians. I've known a lot of politicis. This is
dirty on a level. I really don't know how you
keep your cool. You are a much better man than
I ever could be.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Uh uh. I pray every.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Day for patients and that's what God gives me.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Eddie Gallagher and I will be together tonight at a
Steve Toathe event. You can go Steve to t o
t h's campaign website to find out where and the
time more with our guest Eddie Gallagher Navy Seal Community.
It's the Michael Barry Show. Eddie Gallagher is known as
is what is known as a lifer, having spent not
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just one tour one term. He served in Iraq, he
served in Afghanistan. He as multiple trainees. He went to
the United States Marine Corps Scout Sniper School. He became
a seal after graduating buds he where's the special warfare
insignia two bronze stars. This guy's a hero within the military.
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They don't like that term. And to find out that
you were betrayed, as he says he was by Dan Crenshaw,
a guy parading around in Congress as a war veteran
who seems to fight with everybody, every other Navy seal
than anyone else, I can't imagine. And I admire the
fact that through prayer you've been able to retain this
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sense of this sense of calm. It's powerful. I read
that your nickname is Blade.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah? That's one of the nicknames?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Correct? Do you care to share the others? Eddie Gallagher?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Share the story of how I got that name?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
No, you said that's one of the names. Do you
have other nicknames that we.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Need to know about? Fast?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Eddie is the other one?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Sure tell the story about how you came to be
known as Blade.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Actually that that story is probably better not told publicly,
but I'll.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Just you know what, Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
A long time ago.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I will be with Eddie Gallagher tonight at a Steve
TOAF campaign event. Both of us believe in this cause
and that's.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Why we're there.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
You can go to the Steve Toath campaign online and
find out where it is. It may be sold out
a similar reason, I say, maybe at capacity. So that's
the only reason I'm sending you there rather than giving
the date. How did you get involved with Steve Toath, who,
by the way, I've known for many years, long before
he ran for Congress, and know him to be a good, decent, honorable,
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honest man. And not only is he an alternative to Crenshaw,
I would support him if it was an open seat.
I think he's that type of man. But how did
you get involved with him?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So, I, through a mutual friend of ours, Chad Robershaw,
had told me that Steve Toath was running against Dan,
or deciding to run against Dan. So we had connected
over the phone and I had invited him out to
come on podcast in Florida because I really wanted to
get to know the man who was going to be
running against Dan. I was excited that someone was running
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against him, but I wanted to know where Steve stood
on his values and beliefs, and so I got to
spend time with him and his lovely life in for
a couple of days, and I share your same thoughts.
He's just a good human being. He's a man who
stands behind his values and belief and does not budge
on them. And so when I after the first couple
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of days of hanging out with him, I couldn't have
been more excited that he was a man who was
going to replace Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When when you see Dan Crinshaw in public, parading around
as you know, war hero, warmonger, all of.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
These things, does that bother you? Or have you moved on?
How do you how do you view that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
No, anything Dan does does not really bother me. You know.
It's what bothers me is a fact that he is
representing not only the Seal community, but he's representing his
constituents in such a manner to where he does, not,
like we talked about earlier, take accountability for his mistakes,
you know, and I think just you know, I think
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you admitted it, and I think a lot of other people.
You know, we had high expectations for Dan when he
came into office, because he came from the Seal background,
because he sacrificed for this country. But you know, we
do not measure a leader by yesterday's valor or while
ignoring his decisions today. So you know, we should judge
him by the direction he is taking us now, and
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by the battles that he chooses now, and by whether
his actions today still reflect the values he asked us
to trust. And I think, you know, if the past
five years has shown us anything that Dan does not
embody the values that he ran on. He's continually making
mistakes and continually not holding himself account before it. He's
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letting his ego get the better of him. And the
oath we owe to our country is not to a
man's history, but to our future. And when a man's leaders,
when a leader's present conduct no longer earns that trust,
the honorable response is not loyalty, it's accountability.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You said a lot, what made you want to serve?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I think it's a It's brought into me pretty much
every every male in my and my family has served.
And so you know, I grew up in Omni Bratt,
I was around it, my dad was in the army
for twenty twenty four years, and I think it was
just something that in our family. It's it's a it
looks at as a thing of honor. You should serve
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your country. If you want to live in this country,
you should serve it in some manner so you can
earn your spot here.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
And you you did just about everything, and you've been
honored with just about every every merit. When you look
back on your service, obviously, some awful things were done
to you. And I've seen this happen with guys who
serve in the politics behind it. Did that sour your
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sense of service that you had to go through that
living hell?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Not one that I've been asked that question numerous times before. No,
I don't regret ever signing up to serve my country.
As a matter of fact, I have My oldest son
is in the Marine Corps right now. He's serving this country,
and my youngest is starting to think about it. You know,
what happened to me is not due to the military.
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It's just due to bad leaders that were put in place.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you can get that in any organization.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I've seen that happen with police officers who were wronged.
I've seen that happen in many, many capacities where good
men and women were wronged by bad people while doing
good work for the best of intentions. Dan Crenshaw got
involved to try to keep you in jail, you say,
and before your trial where you were at risk of
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serving life in a case where others changed their testimony,
broke down on trial on the stand and said no, no,
he didn't do anything wrong. The prosecutor was reprimanded after all.
That's awful what you went through. One of the things
that has been alleged out of all of this is
that President Trump joined with the fifty members of Congress
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who were looking for your case, looking for you to
be released so that you could prepare for the trial,
who found your case to be one that deserved more attention,
and that Crenshaw perhaps his hatred of Trump was the
reason that he was involved. On the other side, do
you think there's anything to that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I can't say for certain that that's why he created
that second letter, was his hatred for Trump. What I
truly believe is that Dan Crenshall is an institutionalist and
he was going to do whatever the Institution of Naval
Special Warfare was doing at that time. And at that
time the leadership of navals Bush Special Warfare was targeting
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me and wanting to put me away for life, and
so Dan I believe, was talking to them and just
doing their bidding.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
It's interesting, isn't it How institutions like this find people
like you expendable, necessary, critical until the moment that you're
expendable and useful for another end. And yet there's always
a guy like a Crenshaw willing to serve that interest
for his own.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's a bad movie plot.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Let me crap on this guy and ruin his life,
because then I'll win favor with the institution. Eddie Gallagher,
I look forward to spending some time with you this
evening on behalf of Steve Toth and shaking your hand
and thanking you for your service good sir, same both,
So thank you for having me on
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
This aspect of what is now being investigated as a
as a second attempted assassination of former President Trump has
been identified. If I already say, his name is Ryan
Wesley Roath. He allegedly poked his muzzle of his AK
forty seven star rifle through a Chanling fence as he
was hiding in the bushes of former President Trump's golf
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course at West Palm Beach, Florida. That's when an agent
saw it and opened fire.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
With a long history, you know, that's a little bit old.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
That that archs a couple of months old.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And if you want to really see.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Something that said, take a look at what.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Happened over.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people
carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did
the president then at the time say, there were fine
people on each side, but.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You also had people that were very fine people on
both sides.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And you had people and.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white
nationalist because they should be condemned totally.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election. There
will be a blood bath if this and the outcome
of this election is not to his liking.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Those big monster car manufacturing plans that you're building in
Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that,
you're going to not hire Americans and you're going to
sell the cars. Now, We're going to put a one
hundred percent tower for in every single car that comes
across the line, and you're not going to be able
to sell those cards if I get elected. Now, if
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I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath
for the whole that's going to be the least of it.
It's going to be a blood bed for the country
that'll be.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
The least want to be Trump assassin sentenced to life
in prison plus seven years or his twenty twenty four
attempt on then presidential candidate then former president Donald Trump
at his West Palm Beach golf club.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The story from CBS News.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Ryan Routh had the opportunity to speak on his own
behalf in court today, and this is often an opportunity
for a defendant to show remorse and maybe hope for
some mercy from a judge. But that's one thing that
Ryan Routh did not say. He did not express any remorse.
What he did do is he had a twenty page
essay I'm told read, and he read from it. The
judge allowed for about fifteen minutes. In it, he talked
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about wanting to be exchanged with a political prisoner around
the world. He mentioned Gaza and Hong Kong. He said
that he hoped that he could alleviate someone else's suffering.
Something that he has said throughout this process says is
that he is someone who is all about peace. During
the trial, he talked about being non violent and about gentleness.
(03:07):
The prosecution says otherwise, though. They say this was a
premeditated crime, that he tried to assassinate a major presidential candidate,
now our President Trump, and this was only stopped because
of a Secret Service agent who spotted Ryan Routh in
the fence line at Trump's golf course. Trump was just
one hole away when this happened. Judge Eileen Cannon today
(03:29):
she called that agent a hero reached. She also had
some very harsh words for Ryan Routh. She told him,
your criminal actions speak for themselves and go against your
claims of benevolence. The evil is in you, sir, she said,
And she also told him, you've feigned peacefulness throughout this
whole trial, but you are not a good man.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You think he is evil.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Charlie was assassinated speaking at a university trying to encourage
people to talk out their differences.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Rather than.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Take to violence, and they killed him for that. President
Trump was shot in the head. By all accounts, he
should have been dead. Think about that. He was a
candidate at the time. What would that have done to
the presidential race? What would have done to the country.
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I don't know if these people want civil war or not,
but I know if they wanted civil war, they're doing
everything possible to ensure it. Look what they're doing. Steve Calise,
Steve Scalise should, by all accounts, be dead.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He did die out on softball field.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Just Manister survive some way, somehow they shot They riddled
him with bullets. Another crazy Democrat shooting a Republican Rand
Paul out mowing the grass his own grass in Kentucky.
His crazy liberal neighbor comes up behind him, hits him
(05:16):
in the ribs enough times to puncture his ribs sucker punch.
Rand Paul barely survived. That could have died, on and
on and on. We are under attacked by these bastards,
nothing short of it. Think about that. That's what's happening.
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It's not our people. Oh, January sixth was a terrorist attack.
We were told that, you see, it was very important
to muddy the waters. Well, there's just too much violence everywhere.
January six was not a violent attack. There weren't any weapons.
There weren't any guns. Nobody would at risk. The worst
crime committed was somebody put their boots on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Please.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
We were told they feared for their lives, but did
they The only shot that was fired was by Michael Byrd,
Capitol police officer, into an unarmed, tiny little woman who
posed no threat, who was also a veteran, and they
didn't want to release her information. They're attacking ICE agents,
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they're blockading the streets, they're burning buildings. The left is
out of control, absolutely out of control. President Trump was
on MS was on US our NBC with Tony Lamas.
He was asked about the shooting deaths in Minnesota, and
he had this to say.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
After the shooting of Vernade Good, you said ICE made
some mistakes. What were the mistakes. Well, look, I'm not
happy with the two incidents. It's not you know, it's
both of them got to one or the other. He
was not an angel and she was not an angel.
You know, you look at some tapes from back, but sal,
I'm not happy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
With what happened there.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
You know what, this is important. Hold that I just russed.
We're up against the clock. I want to play that.
I think it's an important answer. I think I think
the president's thoughts on what's going on in this situation
is important.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But I want to be very clear.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't want to suggest that any death is not important,
because they are especially to the people around them.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But the one death of.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
This person, there are a lot of people getting killed
in this country by the League of Aliens. They got
no parade and no remember their name. Yeah, he's got
it all. I want you to imagine your life. This
isn't a screenplay, this isn't a stage production, this isn't
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a sporting performance. I want you to imagine in your life,
whether you are a veteran or not, that you are
doing the most selfless thing you've ever done in your life,
feeling righteous about it, and in that process you are
betrayed and imprisoned. You're put in a jail cell nine
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months until a trial where you will serve for life.
You don't need to be a Navy sealed to understand
the concept that these guys are supposed to have a
very deep bond. There is a member of the US
Congress who's just been elected that year, it's twenty nineteen,
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and you're hearing that he's going to help you, and
you come to find out that not only did he
not help your case, that when fifty members of Congress
signed a letter when the President supported your case, fifty
members of Congress five zero signed a letter for you
to be released so that you could prepare for trial.
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You find out, as Eddie Gallagher did, that Dan Crenshaw
was going to those members and telling them don't support him.
There's a fascinating video about all this online. You can
see all of this. Just look up Eddie Gallagher, Dan
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Crenshaw's it's out there. There are a lot of people,
especially in the special ops communities, but not only in
this but a lot of people in the political community
talking about this.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And the video is I forget who the person is.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
He asked Dan Crenshaw, Well, well, why don't you sit
down with Eddie Gallagher and talk this out?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Man demand.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
And Crenshaw says, what is there to say? Well, yeah,
it feels like you helped try to keep him in
prison for life. And Crenshaw and the reviewer says, oop
of ball. I can't remember the guy's name. He says,
the veteran community hates you. Crenshaw's response is not everyone
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in the veteran community. Maybe the vet bros. Wow, So
so you you fought with David Goggins because you don't
think he's Navy seal enough. You fought with Sean Ryan
because he asked a question about the stock trades you
made fair game, by the way, the Free Press asked
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you about it, and you dropped an F bomb and said, okay,
so what we.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Just won't make any money? Then what we don't? We
don't make very much money? Whoa WHOA dude?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Is that when you went to Congress? Tucker Carlson questioned him,
and he tells a reporter when he thinks to Mike,
is off I ever cutch him, I'll kill him. He
goes to a town hall back in the district. Well,
a little girl says, you referred to Jesus Christ as
a superman archetype, and he said, don't you question my faith?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And the audience was blown away.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
There is Dan Crenshaw that when people see they realize
this guy is not who I thought he was. This
is not the guy I campaigned very hard for, and
I have a responsibility as to a lot of other people.
And they felt it to stand up and say he
shouldn't go back to Congress. We just happened to have
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the fortunate situation that we're not trying to elect a
Ham Sandwich. Steve Toath will make a great congressman. This
is a this is a once in a generation opportunity
to show a member of Congress and every other member
of Congress who's watching, you can't behave that way and
keep getting re elected just because you have all the
money in the establishment. Eddie Gallagher is that man who
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was imprisoned, who found himself in that situation. I heard
one special OPSCA doing a podcast where he said, of
Eddie Gllagher, my only disagreement with Eddie Gallagher is I
can't imagine how he doesn't take more drastic actions. He's
a more controlled man than I am. Welcome to the program.
Eddie Galagher.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Hey, thank you for having me. Folks.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I'm going to tell you this story is so explosive
it will blow your mind.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You won't be able to believe that this actually happened. Eddie.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Let's start from I'm going to work in a reverse
linear fashion because I want to get to your background
and I want to get to all the ways that
you ended up where you were. But let's assume, for
somebody that's about to walk in the office, you're in jail.
You've been accused of killing a little girl and an
old man on Father's Day. Isis perhaps did that? And
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you're sitting in jail, rotting, not able to prepare for
your trial, and you're thinking that Dan Crenshaw will help you,
and then what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, so you're correct on that. I was sitting in
pre facing those charges, and at that time, my wife
Andrea and my brother Sean were drastically taking measures to
get people to notice what was going on. They were
going to Congress, talking to every Congressman that they could.
At least my brother was at the time in one
of the congressmen. Names that kept coming up. Obviously, was
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Dan Crenshaw because he was a newly meant to congressman
and he came from the same community as I did.
So when my brother went to him and asked if
he would support he got no answer the first couple
of times, and he kept going back and finally Dan
told him, hey.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'll let me look into it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I'll see what I can do, which is a valid answer, right,
especially with the charges that I was facing. I would
if I was a congressman. I want to do a
little digging in myself. And obviously what you stated earlier, yes,
they Eventually we ended up getting fifty congressmen to sign
a letter to release me from prison so I could
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properly prepare for trial, because at the time, while I
was locked up, I was not afforded any of the
rights a servicemen my service numbers should be awarded, which
is being able to talk to my lawyers, getting medical visits,
just simple stuff like that. All that was taken from me.
So the fifty congressman signed on to a letter to
get me released from prison, Dan Crenshaw would not sign
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that letter. Instead, he wrote his own letter saying that
I belonged in prison to keep me in prison but dead,
just to have afforded me the rights that I deserved,
which is talked to my.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Lawyers, Eddie. He didn't believe you would ever know about
that letter? Did he.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Say that again?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Did he believe that? You know what?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I'll ask you this question coming up in just a moment,
Eddie Gallagher is are yes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Eddie Gallagher served his country as a Navy seal.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
He expected bad guys to take shots at him while
in war. He got caught up in some really really
nasty politics. We've seen this happen before, and he would
eventually go to trial and he would be acquitted. It
was determined that he was not guilty, but it put
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him through hell. That's not why we're talking to him.
We're talking to him because the last thing you would
expect is another guy from the teams, another Navy seal,
would betray you. And he says, that's exactly what happened,
Eddie GALLAGHERY fifty members of Congress wrote a letter asking
that you'd be released so that you could prepare for
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your trial where you were facing life in prison, and
Dan Crenshaw did not.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He wrote his own letter. Did he know?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Did he expect that you would find out about that letter.
Was it done in secrecy?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
No, it was not done in secrecy. As a matter
of fact, when we found out, when my wife and
brother found out he was writing that second letter, they
messaged him and said, please do not do this letter.
Do not send it in because it's distracting from the
other letter the other fifty congressman time, and Dan did
not listen to them. He did it anyways, submitted it
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and it ended up not working. The original letter the
fifty congressman signed worked. I was released from prison, and
at that point we decided to write Dan Crenshaw off.
Were like, we're no longer going to ask him for help.
And so we continued on, and like you said, I
went to trial was acquitted of all charges. And it
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wasn't until after I had retired. We went to Congress
to thank the fifty congressman for signing that letter, and
while I was there, I was pulled aside by numerous congressmen,
Matt Gates, Ralph Norman, Louis Gohmer, and they all expressed concern.
They said, hey, we want to let you know that
Dan Crenshaw was actively working against you. That they told
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he was telling other congressmen to butt out that it
was not their community, it was his, and that he
would handle it and that I belonged in prison. And
so when I heard that from these congressman, that's when
my wife and I talked about it, and I said,
should we let people know that this happened. And even
then we didn't put anything out about it. We're like,
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you know what, he's a politician. We didn't expect anything
less really, even though he comes from our community, and
we'll just carry on with our lives. And it wasn't
until a couple of years later when he started bad
mouthing me on two other seals, one being David Goggins.
He was messaging David Goggins and saying all sorts of
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stuff about me, and David Goggins sent me that message,
and that's when my wife and I decided, you know what,
we need to do a video and just let people
know what Dan's true character is.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
It's been alleged that he was messaging David Goggins positively
about liking him and thinking he's great, and then all
the while also went and trash gate David Goggins as well,
saying I don't see that he's a real seal. He
just talks about right the sense of betrayal. And then
there is the Sean Ryan issue where Sean Ryan asked
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questions which we should do of Dan Crenshaw's behavior, and
then he has his lawyers send a cease and assist.
I also got a cease and assist over the same issue.
And Sean Ryan said that either Sean Ryan or his
lawyer spoke with Crenshaw's lawyers and they said, they said,
what Sean Ryan or his lawyers said, what are you
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doing with these lawsuits? This is ridiculous. They said, Oh,
we don't actually sue anybody. We just try to intimidate
them to stop talking about Dan. This pattern continues again
and again and again. You know, your issue was twenty nineteen,
he was a new congressman, but this issue has continued
throughout the course of his time. Eddie Gallagher. I want
to go back to your case that was twenty nineteen.
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I saw an interview that you did. It was a YouTube,
some video you were talking about. You were at an
event and you're walking down the hall and you spot
him coming down the hallway and he drops his head
and avoids averts your eye. He cannot make eye contact
with you, he cannot speak to you.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Can you tell that story?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Sure? Yeah. It wasn't too long after I retired. And
actually this was after I had already found out that
Dan was working against Mari when the congressman told me,
and I saw him at a Turning Point USA event
in the morning, and I honestly just wanted to go
up and talk to him and find out why he
took the actions that he did, just team got a
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team guy. But as soon as he saw me, he
put his head down and scurried right past me as
fast as he could with his little entourage. And that
was the first time I tried to actually establish some
kind of communications with him to find out, you know,
why he was doing the things he did. I've over
the past five years, I've given ample opportunity to talk
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to him behind closed doors publicly, whatever he wanted to do,
just to hash things out, and each and every time
that it is offered, he instead of actually talking to me,
he goes and bad mouths me and some other former
fashion I have a litany of text messages from other
companies friends that I have or Dan reaches out to
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them telling them that they're not allowed to talk to me,
that they should not be working with me or be
friends with me.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I mean, it gets that petty.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And so we've never I've never had the chance to
sit down with him and talk face to face.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But what I do think is kind.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Of funny, Mike, is that just the other day, when
Steve Toth announced that I would be coming out to
Dan's district to speak the truth about what his you know,
his character flaws, I received a letter in the mail
two days before I flew out here, and it was
from Dan, the first time he's ever reached out. And
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in that letter there is no accountability. It is all that, oh,
this has been a big communication, and that you don't
really understand what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know, Dan, I'll say this, out of all the.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Allegations that have come across these past five years, when
you've brought it up with Sean, Ryan, Tuckercarls and all
these things, you know, no man is perfect. Everybody makes mistakes,
but the inability to hold yourself accountable is a huge
character flaw. And I can tell you you know, if
you look at the book in the past, any man
with power, if.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
You see his fall.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's usually due to one thing, and that's the inability
to control one's ego. And that's what we have with
Dan Crenshaw. Pride go with before a fall. There is
a level of.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Hubris and pride and arrogance and anger that are the
combustible mix of Cringeshaw that make him such a troubling
He's also duplicitous. He's two faces. I want to go
back the idea. You know, he could have chosen not
to help you, and that would have been dirty. But
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he didn't just choose not to help you. You said
you learned from credible sources other members of Congress that
he was working to keep you in jail. This isn't
whether you would be punished for what you were accused of.
We'll get to that. You were acquitted. The prosecutors were
stripped of their medals. This was a very political case.
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One of the Navy seals that was supposed to be
the witness breaks down on trial. All of that aside,
and he knew all that he had to because as
a member of Congress and a Navy seal, he could
have called the Department of Defense and gotten a briefing
on this, and yet he chose not only to not
get involved, but to actively get involved to try to
ruin you. This is not being dramatic here, this is
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literally trying to ruin you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yes, and you know, I think that's politics and a
nutshell right there.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh, I know, I disagree, Eddie. I've known a lot
of politicians. I've known a lot of politicis. This is
dirty on a level. I really don't know how you
keep your cool. You are a much better man than
I ever could be.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Uh uh. I pray every.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Day for patients and that's what God gives me.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's amazing. It's amazing.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Eddie Gallagher and I will be together tonight at a
Steve Toathe event. You can go Steve to t o
t h's campaign website to find out where and the
time more with our guest Eddie Gallagher Navy Seal Community.
It's the Michael Barry Show. Eddie Gallagher is known as
is what is known as a lifer, having spent not
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just one tour one term. He served in Iraq, he
served in Afghanistan. He as multiple trainees. He went to
the United States Marine Corps Scout Sniper School. He became
a seal after graduating buds he where's the special warfare
insignia two bronze stars. This guy's a hero within the military.
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They don't like that term. And to find out that
you were betrayed, as he says he was by Dan Crenshaw,
a guy parading around in Congress as a war veteran
who seems to fight with everybody, every other Navy seal
than anyone else, I can't imagine. And I admire the
fact that through prayer you've been able to retain this
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sense of this sense of calm. It's powerful. I read
that your nickname is Blade.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah? That's one of the nicknames?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Correct? Do you care to share the others? Eddie Gallagher?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Share the story of how I got that name?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
No, you said that's one of the names. Do you
have other nicknames that we.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Need to know about? Fast?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Eddie is the other one?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Sure tell the story about how you came to be
known as Blade.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Actually that that story is probably better not told publicly,
but I'll.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Just you know what, Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
A long time ago.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I will be with Eddie Gallagher tonight at a Steve
TOAF campaign event. Both of us believe in this cause
and that's.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Why we're there.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
You can go to the Steve Toath campaign online and
find out where it is. It may be sold out
a similar reason, I say, maybe at capacity. So that's
the only reason I'm sending you there rather than giving
the date. How did you get involved with Steve Toath, who,
by the way, I've known for many years, long before
he ran for Congress, and know him to be a good, decent, honorable,
(25:33):
honest man. And not only is he an alternative to Crenshaw,
I would support him if it was an open seat.
I think he's that type of man. But how did
you get involved with him?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So, I, through a mutual friend of ours, Chad Robershaw,
had told me that Steve Toath was running against Dan,
or deciding to run against Dan. So we had connected
over the phone and I had invited him out to
come on podcast in Florida because I really wanted to
get to know the man who was going to be
running against Dan. I was excited that someone was running
(26:07):
against him, but I wanted to know where Steve stood
on his values and beliefs, and so I got to
spend time with him and his lovely life in for
a couple of days, and I share your same thoughts.
He's just a good human being. He's a man who
stands behind his values and belief and does not budge
on them. And so when I after the first couple
(26:29):
of days of hanging out with him, I couldn't have
been more excited that he was a man who was
going to replace Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
When when you see Dan Crinshaw in public, parading around
as you know, war hero, warmonger, all of.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
These things, does that bother you? Or have you moved on?
How do you how do you view that?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
No, anything Dan does does not really bother me. You know.
It's what bothers me is a fact that he is
representing not only the Seal community, but he's representing his
constituents in such a manner to where he does, not,
like we talked about earlier, take accountability for his mistakes,
you know, and I think just you know, I think
(27:16):
you admitted it, and I think a lot of other people.
You know, we had high expectations for Dan when he
came into office, because he came from the Seal background,
because he sacrificed for this country. But you know, we
do not measure a leader by yesterday's valor or while
ignoring his decisions today. So you know, we should judge
him by the direction he is taking us now, and
(27:37):
by the battles that he chooses now, and by whether
his actions today still reflect the values he asked us
to trust. And I think, you know, if the past
five years has shown us anything that Dan does not
embody the values that he ran on. He's continually making
mistakes and continually not holding himself account before it. He's
(28:00):
letting his ego get the better of him. And the
oath we owe to our country is not to a
man's history, but to our future. And when a man's leaders,
when a leader's present conduct no longer earns that trust,
the honorable response is not loyalty, it's accountability.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You said a lot, what made you want to serve?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I think it's a It's brought into me pretty much
every every male in my and my family has served.
And so you know, I grew up in Omni Bratt,
I was around it, my dad was in the army
for twenty twenty four years, and I think it was
just something that in our family. It's it's a it
looks at as a thing of honor. You should serve
(28:43):
your country. If you want to live in this country,
you should serve it in some manner so you can
earn your spot here.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
And you you did just about everything, and you've been
honored with just about every every merit. When you look
back on your service, obviously, some awful things were done
to you. And I've seen this happen with guys who
serve in the politics behind it. Did that sour your
(29:12):
sense of service that you had to go through that
living hell?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Not one that I've been asked that question numerous times before. No,
I don't regret ever signing up to serve my country.
As a matter of fact, I have My oldest son
is in the Marine Corps right now. He's serving this country,
and my youngest is starting to think about it. You know,
what happened to me is not due to the military.
(29:37):
It's just due to bad leaders that were put in place.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you can get that in any organization.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I've seen that happen with police officers who were wronged.
I've seen that happen in many, many capacities where good
men and women were wronged by bad people while doing
good work for the best of intentions. Dan Crenshaw got
involved to try to keep you in jail, you say,
and before your trial where you were at risk of
(30:05):
serving life in a case where others changed their testimony,
broke down on trial on the stand and said no, no,
he didn't do anything wrong. The prosecutor was reprimanded after all.
That's awful what you went through. One of the things
that has been alleged out of all of this is
that President Trump joined with the fifty members of Congress
(30:25):
who were looking for your case, looking for you to
be released so that you could prepare for the trial,
who found your case to be one that deserved more attention,
and that Crenshaw perhaps his hatred of Trump was the
reason that he was involved. On the other side, do
you think there's anything to that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I can't say for certain that that's why he created
that second letter, was his hatred for Trump. What I
truly believe is that Dan Crenshall is an institutionalist and
he was going to do whatever the Institution of Naval
Special Warfare was doing at that time. And at that
time the leadership of navals Bush Special Warfare was targeting
(31:07):
me and wanting to put me away for life, and
so Dan I believe, was talking to them and just
doing their bidding.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
It's interesting, isn't it How institutions like this find people
like you expendable, necessary, critical until the moment that you're
expendable and useful for another end. And yet there's always
a guy like a Crenshaw willing to serve that interest
for his own.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's a bad movie plot.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Let me crap on this guy and ruin his life,
because then I'll win favor with the institution. Eddie Gallagher,
I look forward to spending some time with you this
evening on behalf of Steve Toth and shaking your hand
and thanking you for your service good sir, same both,
So thank you for having me on
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