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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael darry Show is on the air right now.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There's a lot of fallacies about Latinos, and we want
to clear that up.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yeah, that black white officer.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Well, first of all, not every single Latino is Mexican.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm glad you noticed different kind of Mexicans.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Puerto Rican Mexicus, nick Arco, Mexican, Dominican.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Mexcuse I knew nothing of Mexican culture.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm originally from the Midwest. I moved to Los Angeles
like Sinko DeMaio. I didn't even know what it was.
My neighbor's Mexican. I asked him. I mean in Midwest
we call it Tuesday, you know. I asked him, I go,
what is it? He goes, it's our Independence Day. I go,
who'd you beat? He goes the French. I'm like, well, who.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Didn't you know?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I don't know if it's something to get quite this
wound up about Hose, But if Martin Reda's our half pride,
I'm all abouttors ain't going to.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
Ballak the French forces in the Battle of Puebla back
in eighteen sixty two. It's also an excuse to drink
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tequila on a Monday morning at work for Lewis.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
President Obama will.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Mark the holiday with a reception at the White House.
You have to drink the whole thing and eat the worm.
I wanted to take a moment right here because on Monday,
Think of the mile Way too early made sarcastic references
to the way some Americans celebrate the holiday. And it
was not our intention to be disrespectful, and we sincerely
apologize for those references. You know, after twenty years in
this business, anyone who knows me those where I stand
(02:06):
on diversity and inclusion. So to those I let down
or feel betrayed, I hear you, and I'm sorry. So
we want to go over to Lewis now. But the
look at the stories in the coller this morning, and
I know you are contrite as well, Thomas.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
I want to express my sincere apologies as well. I
truly it was never my intention to offend anyone, and
if I did, and I know I did, I'm very
sorry me.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
So, as I told you yesterday, the Governor of Louisiana,
Jeff Landry, commendably so has delayed the elections until the
maps can be redrawn. Governors of Tennessee and Alabama calling
on their state legislators to redraw the maps to make
them proper. Let's fix this. Fixing all of the things
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that were done as the great social experiment by Democrats
that Republicans sat idly by and allowed, is going to
ruffle some feathers. It's going to cause lawsuits, it's going
to it's going to elicit cries of racism. That's okay.
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If you're doing what you need to do to make
this country as great as it can be, you're going
to be called nasty names. A lot of people that
run around screaming racism are idiots. Most of them are
themselves racist, and they're all people who do not want
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efficiency and effectiveness in private enterprise nor government. They want
power based on race, and that is wrong. Clarence Thomas
has become the second longest serving justice in American history,
having served over thirty four years now. He is also
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my second favorite justice of all time and also of
my lifetime Antonin Scalia being number one. When Clarence Thomas
became a Supreme Court justice, he was nominated by George H. W. Bush,
a great nomination, by the way, the left fought him,
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and they fought him hard. Over the years, as his
conservative jurisprudence through his writings has emerged, he has been
called an uncle Tom. That's a nasty little term that
blacks use for other blacks, which means you're not down
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with the cause. You're not robbing anybody, you're not shooting anybody,
running around screaming racism. You're not making babies that you
don't raise. You're not screaming that we're all oppressed. You're participating.
You're living out the American dream. You're making the most
of your opportunities. You're not continuing the game and drawing
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up the bridge on others and keeping the wealth for
ourselves on the basis that we're all victims. You're an
uncle Tom. You know, blacks make life so hard on
other blacks. It's not whites that do this. Liberal whites
will do this to curry favor with blacks and try
to get elected by blacks when they can't get their
fellow whites to vote for them. But really it's blacks
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who do this. Blacks are so awful to other blacks.
Black on black crime is the highest crime percentage in
American it's not even close. If somebody is shot and
killed on the streets of this country, the odds are
it's a black person shot and killed by another black person.
It's terrible. It's horrible. It's a civil war of black
on black. It's not just crips and blood. It's some
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street corner fool and somebody else who walked down the street.
It's drive by shootings. Which think about that, the lowest
forum of violence, the least strategic forum about drive by shootings. Hell,
we make movies about it. We glamorize it. It's awful.
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Here is a montage of the left calling Clarence Thomas
and Uncle Thomas.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
If somehow they managed to stumble into the Supreme Court.
Did any of you guys trust Uncle Clarence and Amy
Cony Barrett and those guys to actually follow the letter
of the law.
Speaker 10 (06:38):
No, And I agree with you that just because one
is black doesn't make them better qualified.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Clarence Thomas proved that.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
Listen, you can get the wrong black.
Speaker 11 (06:49):
Clarence Thomas, y'all.
Speaker 12 (06:53):
You said that I didn't did.
Speaker 13 (06:57):
When I look at.
Speaker 11 (06:59):
He's been on court, it's almost to the.
Speaker 14 (07:05):
Court to say this man doesn't even like black people.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
He doesn't like being black because every decision where color
had something to do with it.
Speaker 12 (07:20):
She may not be African American, but she certainly could
be Black, and in a cultural sense, she's taken on
the ideas, the identities, the struggles she's identified with him.
I've been a lot more Black people would support Rachel
Dolijhaw than would support Saint Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 15 (07:34):
Well, I think many people would like to see an
African American on the Supreme Court. We don't really need
to go into Clarence Thomas's background or his behavior on
the court, but I think to have an African American
voice that has definitely not been there since Thirgod Marshall
would really be an incredible contribution to our country.
Speaker 11 (07:55):
I think Justice Clance Thomas only the State Supreme Court
is an occupon a black man allow himself to be
used to carry the message off a white man, which
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is against the interests of black people in America.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
What a maroon, Michael Berriho, what an aranam.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Today?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It is finally seeing gold in my le. I'd love
to hook up with a Mexican girl with those Seki
San Jose Querivo Tequila I might give wearing a sombrero over.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
With many coronas in me, I may feel as if
I am wanting to fight, but so many drunky stuffed
in there.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Like cattle, that be a sure way to ruin the night.
But my love for tequila is strong, and those not
Joseph Colin. Of all holidays, this one may be the best.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
When talking to.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Chicks, I know, eye contacts file.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You don't want to be caught staring at her chest.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But then now to nowhere, my girlfriend has found me
smashing my cheek with a hard upper right, hitting on
the girls I will now pay for.
Speaker 16 (09:40):
I realize now that wasn't too brah.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
With Justice Clarence Thomas becoming the second longest serving Supreme
Court justice of all time, should he make it, and
I hope you will, through May twentieth of twenty twenty eight,
he would be the longest survey sorry it's sneeze. He
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would be the longest serving Supreme Court justice of all time.
Speaker 17 (10:16):
What you think I have?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Corona, coronavirus, or just corona. That honor goes to Justice
William O. Douglas, who served from nineteen thirty nine to
nineteen seventy five, Justice Thomas was asked by the media
when he would step down from the court and with
his infectious laugh, I love to hear the man laugh.
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But I'm a super fan, I admit it.
Speaker 17 (10:43):
One of the things I'd say in response to the
media is when they talk about, especially early on, about
the way I did my job, I said, I will
absolutely leave the court when I do my job as
poorly as you do yours. And that is a compliment.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Really, I think we neglected this side of the room.
Speaker 17 (11:09):
Yes, it really is good to be me.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
There was a now famous moment during Clarence Thomas's confirmation
hearings when then Senator Joe Biden went on about natural
law Thomas. Justice Thomas was later asked about that moment,
and he said, this.
Speaker 13 (11:39):
Good morning, judge, welcome to the blinding lights. Finding out
what you mean when you say that you would.
Speaker 18 (11:48):
Apply the natural law philosophy to the Constitution is, in
my view, the single most important task of this committee.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Senator Biden was very focused on natural law.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
How did that go?
Speaker 17 (12:01):
Who knows? And I have no idea what he was
talking about.
Speaker 18 (12:05):
I just want to make sure we all know what
we're talking about here, that you and I know at least.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
What we're talking about here.
Speaker 18 (12:11):
There's a fervent and aggressive school of thought that wishes
to see natural law further inform the Constitution than it
does now argued against by the positivists led by Judge Burke.
Now again that may be lost on all the people.
You know, and I know what we're talking about.
Speaker 17 (12:34):
I happen to be perfectly honest with you.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
You sit there and you have no idea what they
are talking about. All I know is that he was
asking me these questions about natural law.
Speaker 18 (12:46):
Someone may apply it in a way like more who
leads him in a direction that is quote liberal. You
may apply it in a way that leads you in
a direction that's conservative, or you may, like many argue,
not apply it at all. But it is a fundamental
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question that's going to be almost impossible for non lawyers
to grasp and in exchange, but you know, and I
know it is a big, big deal. And in conclusion,
one of.
Speaker 14 (13:19):
The things you do in hearings is you have to
sit there and look attentatively deliberate at people.
Speaker 17 (13:26):
You have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I know you know this, So forgive me for telling
you something you're already aware of. I think it's important
we're all on the same page. Natural law is the
philosophy that gives us what we come to know as
natural rights. This is an very important point. Don't tune
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out on this. I understand that we like to have
conversations that everybody sink their teeth in to. But let
me put this very simply. If I ask you, where
do your rights come from? You have a right not
to have to do this. You have a right to
defend yourself. You have all these various rights. You have
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the right to freedom, the most fundamental right, liberty. Do
you believe that government gave you that right or do
you believe that God gave you that right. If you
believe that government gave you that right, then you would
necessarily believe that if government doesn't give you that right,
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you don't have that right. So were you born into
an African slave trade? Or were you born into a
pogrim in the Soviet Union? Or were you born into
a feudal system where you did not have the ability
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to vote, the ability to move about freely, the ability
to express yourself. If you believe that rights come from government,
then you are not a natural rights believer, Clarence Thomas is.
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Once you understand this concept, it's a very important, fundamental,
profound position. It says that we come into this world
as free men and the only thing government can do
is take those freedoms away from us. That when a
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government passes a first Amendment to the Constitution for instance,
or Constitution generally, but the individual rights of the Constitution,
the first ten Amendments, particularly, that all government is doing
is enshrining rights that are not chural to us. We
came into this world through nature, with God's blessing as
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natural creatures with natural rights, and that government should not
take those rights away from us. Does that make sense?
This is This might sound like something that I'm law
school classm my, it's at the core. If someone does
not believe this, this is the difference between us and them.
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You want Clarence Thomas to be right on that that
manifests itself in ways large and small, and.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
From all the King of ding It and this other guy,
Michael Barry, these are the kind of.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Guys you're like a smacking airs. Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings
was not the first to be highly contentious an attempt
by the Democrats to destroy a Republican nominee to the
Supreme Court. But it was nasty. They'd done it to Bork,
and they defeated Bork in the process. When they did
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it to Clarence Thomas, they couldn't do it on the
basis of jurisprudence. They they couldn't hold their own against
him on jurisprudence. So they did it the way you
always take down a man in modern America. Sex It's
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the one thing that takes down every man in modern America.
It's never the ideas, it's never actions or policies, it's
always sex. They brought Anita Hill forward and she claimed
that he had engaged in sexual misconduct with her. Inappropriate behavior.
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They said, she seemed to me like a woman spurned.
That's what I took away from it. But it didn't
change anything. Clarence Thomas was still confirmed, and then once confirmed,
he delivered the most stinging rebuke of Teddy Kennedy, by
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the way, the guy who drove off the bridge and
chapiquittic and left Mary Joe Kopecney to drown. Mister women's
rights huh and Joe Biden, who was the chairman of
the committee, Joe Biden, who has had multiple sexual assault
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allegations against him. But they're going to lecture Clarence Thomas
on women. Okay. So once he was confirmed, he delivered
what came to be known as the high tech lynching statement.
This was his statement. Most people thought he'd say, thank you,
I will do my best to be a good Supreme
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Court justice. That's what Breck ca Avanaugh did after they
lynched him. But not Clarence Thomas. No, No, he's made
a sterner stuff.
Speaker 14 (19:09):
This is a case in which this sleeves, this dirt
was searched for by staffers of members of this committee,
was then leaked to the medium, and this committee and
this body validated it and displayed it at prime time
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over our entire nation. How would any member on this committee,
any person in this room, or any person in this
country would like sleeves set about him or her in
this fashion, or this dirt dredged up in this gossip,
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and these lives displayed in this man How would any
person like it? The Supreme Court is not worth it,
No job is worth it. I'm not here for that.
I'm here for my name, my family, my life, and
my integrity. I think something is dreadfully wrong with this
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country when any person, any person in this free country
would be subjected to this. This is not a closed room.
There was an FBI investigation. This is not an opportunity
to talk about difficult matters privately or in a closed environment.
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This is a circus. It's a national disgrace, and from
my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned,
it is a high tech lynching for uppity blacks who
in any way deigned to think for themselves, to do
for themselves, to have different ideas, And it is a
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message that unless you cowtow it's an old order, this
is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed,
caricatured by a committee of the US Senate, rather than
hung from a treatment.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
He referred to this being a punishment of upity blacks.
Let me tell you something. I have seen this happen
so many times. White liberals and other blacks will engage
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in cruelties against a black man who dares would be
independent of the hustle, the racism hustle, and you will
get some stupid person like Maxine Waters or Sheila Jackson Lee,
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some person who claims to speak for black people and
can't conjugate the beaverb filthy, stupid, low grade black elected
officials will attack a Clarence Thomas and feel comfortable doing
so because he's a black man. He's a black man
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who dares to have independent thought. You see it with
black artists. You see how often if a black artist
dares to question, dares to question the COVID shot, dares
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to question American foreign policy, dares to question Barack Obama
being a good leader, all of a sudden whatever made
him famous will be knocked down a notch. Did you
see that Rolling Stone took Eric Clapton on their list
from being tenth greatest guitarist of all time to thirty five?
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Why because he thought the COVID shot wasn't a real vaccine.
He's right, and he refused to require people who showed
up in his concerts to wear masks because they don't work.
So the Rolling Stone list of top guitarists wasn't based
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on your ability to strum the keys. It was based
on whether you state affirm conventional positions. Yes, I know,
Eric Clapton's a white man. But the point still stands
once you realize, because Rolling Stone admitted to it. Once
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you realize that that list is not who's the best guitarist,
it's who's the best guitarist that plays the conventional game.
What they did to Clarence Thomas, had he been nominated
by Obama and had he and were he a Ktanji
Brown Jackson, you know, running around claiming racism, racism, racism,
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there never would have been a question about a woman
who supposedly was subjected to inappropriate statements years and years before.
That's what he's talking about. And he is dead on.
There's a lot of black people nodding their head right now,
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because if you are a black person who dares Mary,
a non black woman who man, they wills, they will
absolutely say the nastiest things. If you're a black woman
who dares Mary, a non black man, oh my goodness.
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If you support Trump, if you stand for independence, if
you stand for the individual, oh they'll destroy it. High
tech lynching of uppity blacks man, the term anal intercourse
on your program, Michael, if it's relevant to his story.
Speaker 19 (25:29):
For journalistic purposes, your Saviian Kidstoy Florida, you get your
men with sick kit.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Then did I get your U.
Speaker 19 (25:53):
Did ask in no megacis day middle of US?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I started with trees Day.
Speaker 16 (25:58):
Yes long.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I look Clarence Thomas now having become the second longest
serving Supreme Court justice in American history. One of my
favorite quotes from him. He was giving a speech about
the fact that the truth is the truth. North is
still North.
Speaker 14 (26:26):
You can be in the middle of a hurricane, or
you can be on a calm day. North is still North.
You could be in a thunderstorm. North is still North.
People can yell at you. North is still North. It
doesn't change fundamental things. And in this business, right is
still right, even if you stand by yourself. You can
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be in the middle of a hurricane, or you can
be on a calm day. North is still North. You
could be in a thunderstorm. North is still North. People
can yell at you. North is still North. It doesn't
change fundamental things, and in this business, right is still
right even if you stand by yourself.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This is such important advice. I hope it's advice that
you internalize. I hope it's advice that you give your children.
Doing the right thing is always the right thing. But
you know there's something that I think parents don't tell
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their children. And I've been very clear with my children
from the beginning. We say, doing the right thing is
the right thing, do the right thing, stand up for
what is right. But I will tell you my three
heroes in life are Jesus Christ, Davy Crockett, and Robert E.
Speaker 17 (27:56):
Lee.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Each of them gave their lives for their cause. Now
Christ was resurrected, but he had to die. He had
to suffer horribly. That was the prophecy, that was to
what had to happen, and he understood that didn't make
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it any less painful. So I've taught my children from
the earliest of days that everyone tells their kids do
the right thing. Everyone says, I just want to be
a guy that does the right thing. The reason people
don't do the right thing, it's not because they forgot.
It's not because, well, the right thing was really easy,
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but I went to great links to do the wrong thing.
It is because doing the right thing is harder than
cutting a corner. It's less profitable, it's less popular. There
was a company in Houston called in Run In ten
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out of ten years they were the name the fastest
growing company in the country, best place to work, great investment.
But it turns out that while they started with a
solid core business, in order to continue to confound the
market and make insane about some amounts of money, they
were playing accounting tricks. They were lying, they were not
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making the money they claimed they were making. I could
spend a lot of time talking about what exactly they
were doing and how they were pulling this off. But
they were not quite Burnie made off. But they were
fooling a lot of people. And there was a woman
named Sharon Watkins, and she simply raised a question. You know,
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she's described as having been the person who you know,
yelled stop. You know it had to stop right now,
and she just raised the question. She was named one
of the three Times of the Year Persons of the Year,
they call it now. And I'm not trying to diminish
what Sharon did by any measure. I'm trying to point
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out how rare courage really is. She didn't hold a
press conference and say this company is built on a
house of cards and a lot of people are about
to lose the entirety of their life savings that they've
invested in this damn thing. She just raised questions. But
because nobody else was raising questions, obvious questions, glaring discrepancies,
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she became Person of the Year. I made a movie.
She was the hero of it. She did the right thing,
and it made people very angry. If you're the person
at the company that points out that the company sells
are not what you're reporting, they're far less. That the
company's expenses are far greater than are being reported. If
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you're the person who says, hey, Bob is sexually harassing
Susie as secretary. It's to the point that when he leaves,
she starts crying at her desk, her hands starts shaking.
She's frightened of him. Well, he has more power than
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she does. That's going to cause you problems. But it's
the right thing to do. The right thing to do
is hard to do. It's not easy to do. It's
very hard to do. That's why people don't do it.
That's why when we say do the right thing, north
is still Norris tell the truth. The truth is still
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the truth, even if no one else stands with you.
You look at how many times in a movie Karen Silkwood,
for instance, a person simply states what they know to
be the truth. They cling to the truth and they're
destroyed for it. How many people turn against them? How
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many people in a small town when when the principal
has raped a student but that principle's popular, or the
pastor at the church has done unspeakable things and a
family comes forward, or the priest and a family comes
forward and says, he raped our boy, And how many
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people will close ranks and say, I don't believe he
could have done that because they liked the priest or,
they like the preacher. He's been to their house for dinner,
Their previous kids went through Catechism or whatever it's called
through him, And we don't want to lose all the
clout we have at the church. We've been talking about
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Justice Clarence Thomas. I'm going to close with the Antennin's Kalia.
This is from two thousand and six, and Justice Kalia,
my favorite justice of all time, the greatest justice of
all time. Is talking about America's common culture. And this
is good.
Speaker 20 (33:00):
It's part of our tradition that everybody can be an American,
but there has been a common a common culture. We
don't have to belong to it, but there has been
that is okay, you want to know what it is?
Speaker 16 (33:15):
One?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Is there a bond?
Speaker 19 (33:16):
Is there a common culture?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think?
Speaker 20 (33:18):
Let me tell you a story. My junior year college,
I studied in Switzerland and I used to get really
annoyed when the French Swiss professors I had would refer
constantly to Lespey Anglo Sacks, the Anglo Saxon countries meaning England,
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the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Okay, Canada. I said,
you know, hey, my name is Scalia and I'm as
American as anybody. Look at this face. Is this an
Anglo Saxon face. I had never been in England, but
at the end of my year I went to England.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I felt at home.
Speaker 20 (33:59):
There is There is no doubt that American culture, American
common culture, which nobody has to belong to, originates with
English culture. And that includes Shakespeare and includes nursery rhymes
that we all know and that we use as examples.
That's our common culture. And I think the Framers recognize that.
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And diversity is fine, but diversity does not make a nation,
not a.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Element illness. Nice left for building, thank you, and good night.
It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The
Michael darry Show is on the air right now.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There's a lot of fallacies about Latinos, and we want
to clear that up.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yeah, that black white officer.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Well, first of all, not every single Latino is Mexican.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm glad you noticed different kind of Mexicans.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Puerto Rican Mexicus, nick Arco, Mexican, Dominican.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Mexcuse I knew nothing of Mexican culture.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm originally from the Midwest. I moved to Los Angeles
like Sinko DeMaio. I didn't even know what it was.
My neighbor's Mexican. I asked him. I mean in Midwest
we call it Tuesday, you know. I asked him, I go,
what is it? He goes, it's our Independence Day. I go,
who'd you beat? He goes the French. I'm like, well, who.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Didn't you know?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
I don't know if it's something to get quite this
wound up about Hose, But if Martin Reda's our half pride,
I'm all abouttors ain't going to.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
Ballak the French forces in the Battle of Puebla back
in eighteen sixty two. It's also an excuse to drink
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tequila on a Monday morning at work for Lewis.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
President Obama will.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
Mark the holiday with a reception at the White House.
You have to drink the whole thing and eat the worm.
I wanted to take a moment right here because on Monday,
Think of the mile Way too early made sarcastic references
to the way some Americans celebrate the holiday. And it
was not our intention to be disrespectful, and we sincerely
apologize for those references. You know, after twenty years in
this business, anyone who knows me those where I stand
(02:06):
on diversity and inclusion. So to those I let down
or feel betrayed, I hear you, and I'm sorry. So
we want to go over to Lewis now. But the
look at the stories in the coller this morning, and
I know you are contrite as well, Thomas.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
I want to express my sincere apologies as well. I
truly it was never my intention to offend anyone, and
if I did, and I know I did, I'm very
sorry me.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
So, as I told you yesterday, the Governor of Louisiana,
Jeff Landry, commendably so has delayed the elections until the
maps can be redrawn. Governors of Tennessee and Alabama calling
on their state legislators to redraw the maps to make
them proper. Let's fix this. Fixing all of the things
(03:04):
that were done as the great social experiment by Democrats
that Republicans sat idly by and allowed, is going to
ruffle some feathers. It's going to cause lawsuits, it's going
to it's going to elicit cries of racism. That's okay.
(03:26):
If you're doing what you need to do to make
this country as great as it can be, you're going
to be called nasty names. A lot of people that
run around screaming racism are idiots. Most of them are
themselves racist, and they're all people who do not want
(03:49):
efficiency and effectiveness in private enterprise nor government. They want
power based on race, and that is wrong. Clarence Thomas
has become the second longest serving justice in American history,
having served over thirty four years now. He is also
(04:10):
my second favorite justice of all time and also of
my lifetime Antonin Scalia being number one. When Clarence Thomas
became a Supreme Court justice, he was nominated by George H. W. Bush,
a great nomination, by the way, the left fought him,
(04:35):
and they fought him hard. Over the years, as his
conservative jurisprudence through his writings has emerged, he has been
called an uncle Tom. That's a nasty little term that
blacks use for other blacks, which means you're not down
(04:55):
with the cause. You're not robbing anybody, you're not shooting anybody,
running around screaming racism. You're not making babies that you
don't raise. You're not screaming that we're all oppressed. You're participating.
You're living out the American dream. You're making the most
of your opportunities. You're not continuing the game and drawing
(05:17):
up the bridge on others and keeping the wealth for
ourselves on the basis that we're all victims. You're an
uncle Tom. You know, blacks make life so hard on
other blacks. It's not whites that do this. Liberal whites
will do this to curry favor with blacks and try
to get elected by blacks when they can't get their
fellow whites to vote for them. But really it's blacks
(05:40):
who do this. Blacks are so awful to other blacks.
Black on black crime is the highest crime percentage in
American it's not even close. If somebody is shot and
killed on the streets of this country, the odds are
it's a black person shot and killed by another black person.
It's terrible. It's horrible. It's a civil war of black
on black. It's not just crips and blood. It's some
(06:01):
street corner fool and somebody else who walked down the street.
It's drive by shootings. Which think about that, the lowest
forum of violence, the least strategic forum about drive by shootings. Hell,
we make movies about it. We glamorize it. It's awful.
(06:22):
Here is a montage of the left calling Clarence Thomas
and Uncle Thomas.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
If somehow they managed to stumble into the Supreme Court.
Did any of you guys trust Uncle Clarence and Amy
Cony Barrett and those guys to actually follow the letter
of the law.
Speaker 10 (06:38):
No, And I agree with you that just because one
is black doesn't make them better qualified.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Clarence Thomas proved that.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
Listen, you can get the wrong black.
Speaker 11 (06:49):
Clarence Thomas, y'all.
Speaker 12 (06:53):
You said that I didn't did.
Speaker 13 (06:57):
When I look at.
Speaker 11 (06:59):
He's been on court, it's almost to the.
Speaker 14 (07:05):
Court to say this man doesn't even like black people.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
He doesn't like being black because every decision where color
had something to do with it.
Speaker 12 (07:20):
She may not be African American, but she certainly could
be Black, and in a cultural sense, she's taken on
the ideas, the identities, the struggles she's identified with him.
I've been a lot more Black people would support Rachel
Dolijhaw than would support Saint Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 15 (07:34):
Well, I think many people would like to see an
African American on the Supreme Court. We don't really need
to go into Clarence Thomas's background or his behavior on
the court, but I think to have an African American
voice that has definitely not been there since Thirgod Marshall
would really be an incredible contribution to our country.
Speaker 11 (07:55):
I think Justice Clance Thomas only the State Supreme Court
is an occupon a black man allow himself to be
used to carry the message off a white man, which
(08:18):
is against the interests of black people in America.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
What a maroon, Michael Berriho, what an aranam.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Today?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It is finally seeing gold in my le. I'd love
to hook up with a Mexican girl with those Seki
San Jose Querivo Tequila I might give wearing a sombrero over.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
With many coronas in me, I may feel as if
I am wanting to fight, but so many drunky stuffed
in there.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Like cattle, that be a sure way to ruin the night.
But my love for tequila is strong, and those not
Joseph Colin. Of all holidays, this one may be the best.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
When talking to.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Chicks, I know, eye contacts file.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You don't want to be caught staring at her chest.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But then now to nowhere, my girlfriend has found me
smashing my cheek with a hard upper right, hitting on
the girls I will now pay for.
Speaker 16 (09:40):
I realize now that wasn't too brah.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
With Justice Clarence Thomas becoming the second longest serving Supreme
Court justice of all time, should he make it, and
I hope you will, through May twentieth of twenty twenty eight,
he would be the longest survey sorry it's sneeze. He
(10:13):
would be the longest serving Supreme Court justice of all time.
Speaker 17 (10:16):
What you think I have?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Corona, coronavirus, or just corona. That honor goes to Justice
William O. Douglas, who served from nineteen thirty nine to
nineteen seventy five, Justice Thomas was asked by the media
when he would step down from the court and with
his infectious laugh, I love to hear the man laugh.
(10:41):
But I'm a super fan, I admit it.
Speaker 17 (10:43):
One of the things I'd say in response to the
media is when they talk about, especially early on, about
the way I did my job, I said, I will
absolutely leave the court when I do my job as
poorly as you do yours. And that is a compliment.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Really, I think we neglected this side of the room.
Speaker 17 (11:09):
Yes, it really is good to be me.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
There was a now famous moment during Clarence Thomas's confirmation
hearings when then Senator Joe Biden went on about natural
law Thomas. Justice Thomas was later asked about that moment,
and he said, this.
Speaker 13 (11:39):
Good morning, judge, welcome to the blinding lights. Finding out
what you mean when you say that you would.
Speaker 18 (11:48):
Apply the natural law philosophy to the Constitution is, in
my view, the single most important task of this committee.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Senator Biden was very focused on natural law.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
How did that go?
Speaker 17 (12:01):
Who knows? And I have no idea what he was
talking about.
Speaker 18 (12:05):
I just want to make sure we all know what
we're talking about here, that you and I know at least.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
What we're talking about here.
Speaker 18 (12:11):
There's a fervent and aggressive school of thought that wishes
to see natural law further inform the Constitution than it
does now argued against by the positivists led by Judge Burke.
Now again that may be lost on all the people.
You know, and I know what we're talking about.
Speaker 17 (12:34):
I happen to be perfectly honest with you.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
You sit there and you have no idea what they
are talking about. All I know is that he was
asking me these questions about natural law.
Speaker 18 (12:46):
Someone may apply it in a way like more who
leads him in a direction that is quote liberal. You
may apply it in a way that leads you in
a direction that's conservative, or you may, like many argue,
not apply it at all. But it is a fundamental
(13:07):
question that's going to be almost impossible for non lawyers
to grasp and in exchange, but you know, and I
know it is a big, big deal. And in conclusion,
one of.
Speaker 14 (13:19):
The things you do in hearings is you have to
sit there and look attentatively deliberate at people.
Speaker 17 (13:26):
You have no idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
I know you know this, So forgive me for telling
you something you're already aware of. I think it's important
we're all on the same page. Natural law is the
philosophy that gives us what we come to know as
natural rights. This is an very important point. Don't tune
(13:53):
out on this. I understand that we like to have
conversations that everybody sink their teeth in to. But let
me put this very simply. If I ask you, where
do your rights come from? You have a right not
to have to do this. You have a right to
defend yourself. You have all these various rights. You have
(14:15):
the right to freedom, the most fundamental right, liberty. Do
you believe that government gave you that right or do
you believe that God gave you that right. If you
believe that government gave you that right, then you would
necessarily believe that if government doesn't give you that right,
(14:39):
you don't have that right. So were you born into
an African slave trade? Or were you born into a
pogrim in the Soviet Union? Or were you born into
a feudal system where you did not have the ability
(15:01):
to vote, the ability to move about freely, the ability
to express yourself. If you believe that rights come from government,
then you are not a natural rights believer, Clarence Thomas is.
(15:21):
Once you understand this concept, it's a very important, fundamental,
profound position. It says that we come into this world
as free men and the only thing government can do
is take those freedoms away from us. That when a
(15:43):
government passes a first Amendment to the Constitution for instance,
or Constitution generally, but the individual rights of the Constitution,
the first ten Amendments, particularly, that all government is doing
is enshrining rights that are not chural to us. We
came into this world through nature, with God's blessing as
(16:09):
natural creatures with natural rights, and that government should not
take those rights away from us. Does that make sense?
This is This might sound like something that I'm law
school classm my, it's at the core. If someone does
not believe this, this is the difference between us and them.
(16:33):
You want Clarence Thomas to be right on that that
manifests itself in ways large and small, and.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
From all the King of ding It and this other guy,
Michael Barry, these are the kind of.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Guys you're like a smacking airs. Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings
was not the first to be highly contentious an attempt
by the Democrats to destroy a Republican nominee to the
Supreme Court. But it was nasty. They'd done it to Bork,
and they defeated Bork in the process. When they did
(17:10):
it to Clarence Thomas, they couldn't do it on the
basis of jurisprudence. They they couldn't hold their own against
him on jurisprudence. So they did it the way you
always take down a man in modern America. Sex It's
(17:33):
the one thing that takes down every man in modern America.
It's never the ideas, it's never actions or policies, it's
always sex. They brought Anita Hill forward and she claimed
that he had engaged in sexual misconduct with her. Inappropriate behavior.
(17:56):
They said, she seemed to me like a woman spurned.
That's what I took away from it. But it didn't
change anything. Clarence Thomas was still confirmed, and then once confirmed,
he delivered the most stinging rebuke of Teddy Kennedy, by
(18:17):
the way, the guy who drove off the bridge and
chapiquittic and left Mary Joe Kopecney to drown. Mister women's
rights huh and Joe Biden, who was the chairman of
the committee, Joe Biden, who has had multiple sexual assault
(18:37):
allegations against him. But they're going to lecture Clarence Thomas
on women. Okay. So once he was confirmed, he delivered
what came to be known as the high tech lynching statement.
This was his statement. Most people thought he'd say, thank you,
I will do my best to be a good Supreme
(18:58):
Court justice. That's what Breck ca Avanaugh did after they
lynched him. But not Clarence Thomas. No, No, he's made
a sterner stuff.
Speaker 14 (19:09):
This is a case in which this sleeves, this dirt
was searched for by staffers of members of this committee,
was then leaked to the medium, and this committee and
this body validated it and displayed it at prime time
(19:35):
over our entire nation. How would any member on this committee,
any person in this room, or any person in this
country would like sleeves set about him or her in
this fashion, or this dirt dredged up in this gossip,
(19:57):
and these lives displayed in this man How would any
person like it? The Supreme Court is not worth it,
No job is worth it. I'm not here for that.
I'm here for my name, my family, my life, and
my integrity. I think something is dreadfully wrong with this
(20:21):
country when any person, any person in this free country
would be subjected to this. This is not a closed room.
There was an FBI investigation. This is not an opportunity
to talk about difficult matters privately or in a closed environment.
(20:44):
This is a circus. It's a national disgrace, and from
my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned,
it is a high tech lynching for uppity blacks who
in any way deigned to think for themselves, to do
for themselves, to have different ideas, And it is a
(21:07):
message that unless you cowtow it's an old order, this
is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed,
caricatured by a committee of the US Senate, rather than
hung from a treatment.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
He referred to this being a punishment of upity blacks.
Let me tell you something. I have seen this happen
so many times. White liberals and other blacks will engage
(21:54):
in cruelties against a black man who dares would be
independent of the hustle, the racism hustle, and you will
get some stupid person like Maxine Waters or Sheila Jackson Lee,
(22:14):
some person who claims to speak for black people and
can't conjugate the beaverb filthy, stupid, low grade black elected
officials will attack a Clarence Thomas and feel comfortable doing
so because he's a black man. He's a black man
(22:35):
who dares to have independent thought. You see it with
black artists. You see how often if a black artist
dares to question, dares to question the COVID shot, dares
(22:55):
to question American foreign policy, dares to question Barack Obama
being a good leader, all of a sudden whatever made
him famous will be knocked down a notch. Did you
see that Rolling Stone took Eric Clapton on their list
from being tenth greatest guitarist of all time to thirty five?
(23:19):
Why because he thought the COVID shot wasn't a real vaccine.
He's right, and he refused to require people who showed
up in his concerts to wear masks because they don't work.
So the Rolling Stone list of top guitarists wasn't based
(23:42):
on your ability to strum the keys. It was based
on whether you state affirm conventional positions. Yes, I know,
Eric Clapton's a white man. But the point still stands
once you realize, because Rolling Stone admitted to it. Once
(24:04):
you realize that that list is not who's the best guitarist,
it's who's the best guitarist that plays the conventional game.
What they did to Clarence Thomas, had he been nominated
by Obama and had he and were he a Ktanji
Brown Jackson, you know, running around claiming racism, racism, racism,
(24:27):
there never would have been a question about a woman
who supposedly was subjected to inappropriate statements years and years before.
That's what he's talking about. And he is dead on.
There's a lot of black people nodding their head right now,
(24:48):
because if you are a black person who dares Mary,
a non black woman who man, they wills, they will
absolutely say the nastiest things. If you're a black woman
who dares Mary, a non black man, oh my goodness.
(25:09):
If you support Trump, if you stand for independence, if
you stand for the individual, oh they'll destroy it. High
tech lynching of uppity blacks man, the term anal intercourse
on your program, Michael, if it's relevant to his story.
Speaker 19 (25:29):
For journalistic purposes, your Saviian Kidstoy Florida, you get your
men with sick kit.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Then did I get your U.
Speaker 19 (25:53):
Did ask in no megacis day middle of US?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I started with trees Day.
Speaker 16 (25:58):
Yes long.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I look Clarence Thomas now having become the second longest
serving Supreme Court justice in American history. One of my
favorite quotes from him. He was giving a speech about
the fact that the truth is the truth. North is
still North.
Speaker 14 (26:26):
You can be in the middle of a hurricane, or
you can be on a calm day. North is still North.
You could be in a thunderstorm. North is still North.
People can yell at you. North is still North. It
doesn't change fundamental things. And in this business, right is
still right, even if you stand by yourself. You can
(26:49):
be in the middle of a hurricane, or you can
be on a calm day. North is still North. You
could be in a thunderstorm. North is still North. People
can yell at you. North is still North. It doesn't
change fundamental things, and in this business, right is still
right even if you stand by yourself.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
This is such important advice. I hope it's advice that
you internalize. I hope it's advice that you give your children.
Doing the right thing is always the right thing. But
you know there's something that I think parents don't tell
(27:35):
their children. And I've been very clear with my children
from the beginning. We say, doing the right thing is
the right thing, do the right thing, stand up for
what is right. But I will tell you my three
heroes in life are Jesus Christ, Davy Crockett, and Robert E.
Speaker 17 (27:56):
Lee.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Each of them gave their lives for their cause. Now
Christ was resurrected, but he had to die. He had
to suffer horribly. That was the prophecy, that was to
what had to happen, and he understood that didn't make
(28:19):
it any less painful. So I've taught my children from
the earliest of days that everyone tells their kids do
the right thing. Everyone says, I just want to be
a guy that does the right thing. The reason people
don't do the right thing, it's not because they forgot.
It's not because, well, the right thing was really easy,
(28:42):
but I went to great links to do the wrong thing.
It is because doing the right thing is harder than
cutting a corner. It's less profitable, it's less popular. There
was a company in Houston called in Run In ten
(29:04):
out of ten years they were the name the fastest
growing company in the country, best place to work, great investment.
But it turns out that while they started with a
solid core business, in order to continue to confound the
market and make insane about some amounts of money, they
were playing accounting tricks. They were lying, they were not
(29:28):
making the money they claimed they were making. I could
spend a lot of time talking about what exactly they
were doing and how they were pulling this off. But
they were not quite Burnie made off. But they were
fooling a lot of people. And there was a woman
named Sharon Watkins, and she simply raised a question. You know,
(29:48):
she's described as having been the person who you know,
yelled stop. You know it had to stop right now,
and she just raised the question. She was named one
of the three Times of the Year Persons of the Year,
they call it now. And I'm not trying to diminish
what Sharon did by any measure. I'm trying to point
(30:08):
out how rare courage really is. She didn't hold a
press conference and say this company is built on a
house of cards and a lot of people are about
to lose the entirety of their life savings that they've
invested in this damn thing. She just raised questions. But
because nobody else was raising questions, obvious questions, glaring discrepancies,
(30:36):
she became Person of the Year. I made a movie.
She was the hero of it. She did the right thing,
and it made people very angry. If you're the person
at the company that points out that the company sells
are not what you're reporting, they're far less. That the
company's expenses are far greater than are being reported. If
(31:00):
you're the person who says, hey, Bob is sexually harassing
Susie as secretary. It's to the point that when he leaves,
she starts crying at her desk, her hands starts shaking.
She's frightened of him. Well, he has more power than
(31:20):
she does. That's going to cause you problems. But it's
the right thing to do. The right thing to do
is hard to do. It's not easy to do. It's
very hard to do. That's why people don't do it.
That's why when we say do the right thing, north
is still Norris tell the truth. The truth is still
(31:42):
the truth, even if no one else stands with you.
You look at how many times in a movie Karen Silkwood,
for instance, a person simply states what they know to
be the truth. They cling to the truth and they're
destroyed for it. How many people turn against them? How
(32:03):
many people in a small town when when the principal
has raped a student but that principle's popular, or the
pastor at the church has done unspeakable things and a
family comes forward, or the priest and a family comes
forward and says, he raped our boy, And how many
(32:26):
people will close ranks and say, I don't believe he
could have done that because they liked the priest or,
they like the preacher. He's been to their house for dinner,
Their previous kids went through Catechism or whatever it's called
through him, And we don't want to lose all the
clout we have at the church. We've been talking about
(32:48):
Justice Clarence Thomas. I'm going to close with the Antennin's Kalia.
This is from two thousand and six, and Justice Kalia,
my favorite justice of all time, the greatest justice of
all time. Is talking about America's common culture. And this
is good.
Speaker 20 (33:00):
It's part of our tradition that everybody can be an American,
but there has been a common a common culture. We
don't have to belong to it, but there has been
that is okay, you want to know what it is?
Speaker 16 (33:15):
One?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Is there a bond?
Speaker 19 (33:16):
Is there a common culture?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think?
Speaker 20 (33:18):
Let me tell you a story. My junior year college,
I studied in Switzerland and I used to get really
annoyed when the French Swiss professors I had would refer
constantly to Lespey Anglo Sacks, the Anglo Saxon countries meaning England,
(33:39):
the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Okay, Canada. I said,
you know, hey, my name is Scalia and I'm as
American as anybody. Look at this face. Is this an
Anglo Saxon face. I had never been in England, but
at the end of my year I went to England.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
I felt at home.
Speaker 20 (33:59):
There is There is no doubt that American culture, American
common culture, which nobody has to belong to, originates with
English culture. And that includes Shakespeare and includes nursery rhymes
that we all know and that we use as examples.
That's our common culture. And I think the Framers recognize that.
(34:22):
And diversity is fine, but diversity does not make a nation,
not a.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Element illness. Nice left for building, thank you, and good night.
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