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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I mean, Napoli would not tell you that our party
is in good shape today.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Any We are historically.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Unpopular, and part of that is just, you know, people
expressing their frustration about Trump's lawlessness.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
It is an honor, of course, to be with you
this week as we celebrate Indigenous People's Day, as we
speak truth about our nation's history. Since nineteen thirty four,
every October, the United States has recognized the voyage of
the European explorers who first landed on the shores of

(00:46):
the Americas. But that is not the whole story. That
has never been the whole story. Those explorers ushered in
a wave of devastation for tribal mats, perpetrating violence, stealing land,
and spreading disease. We must not shy away from this

(01:09):
shameful past.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I would to pick up my daughter from water polo
practice and she's twelve, and she got in the car
and she was crying, and I said, did someone punch you?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That waterpool is a rough sport.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I was like, did someone hit you?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
To the coach yell at you what happened? And she said, Mom,
Trump won, Trump's gonna win, And what if I get
raped and I need to have an abortion. This is
from a twelve year old, my twelve year old daughter.
As what was really a reminder of how scary this
time is for people. The allegation of rumor and pedophile.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It is alleging that.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
A person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts
merely because of their identity.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
There's there's an identity.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
And Maya Mamdani.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
We welcome Prime Minister Meta to New York City for
the for whatever he comes for given the US is
not a signature to the ICC, so he can travel
to the US.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Unlike a lot of other countries with a man.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm doney, welcome Benjamin in the unit of the city.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
No, as mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin Yaho.
This is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are also.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
No more subsidies for fossil fil industry. No more drilling
on federal lands, no more drilling, including offshore, no ability
for the oil industry to continue to drill period ends.

Speaker 8 (02:26):
Such a consequential President of the United States, a mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States, want to
know what comes next, that he belongs up there on
Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Lincoln and Joe Biden.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him down, but he's can to
add Biden.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
There's a line in that montage that Jim Mudd put
together where the woman says, and I forget who it is,
it says it. I don't know that it matters. But
if you remember, Jim, tell me where she says. My
daughter came home from school and said, Mommy, if Trump wins,

(03:09):
I'm gonna get raped and I.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Won't be able to have an abortion. The baby, mommy,
and my daughter's only twelve. That's how scary things are
in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
To which I respond, you are a horrible mother. You
are a dreadful, awful mother. You have instilled that fear
into your little diva. Your child is emotionally unstable because
you're emotionally unstable. And I have seen crazy women make

(03:54):
crazy wives that had a crazy mother before him, stable women,
grounded women, based women raise stable, grounded based daughters, crazy women,
nutty women, many of them in media, many of them

(04:17):
Democrat elected officials, many of them movie stars. They are
as an individual, severely extremely broken. And what we have
to do is bring back being honest about crazy. Crazy
is not an exalted status therapy every day is not

(04:40):
something to brag about. It's not a notch on your
belt to be crazy. It's not something that excuses behaviors.
It's not something that somehow makes you special or interesting.

(05:03):
It's something that we have for too long acknowledged and
accepted in our public conversation without calling it out for.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
And then you end up with the nutty, and you
end up with things that make no sense being discussed
in the same conversation. This is how you end up
with conversations about whether little boys should decide at two

(05:36):
that they're a girl and by four cut their wiener
off and by twelve, oh, by the way, he's having
some severe psychological issues because he's been transitioned to a girl.
This is how little boys get talked into being little

(05:57):
girls by mommies who want.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
To have a freak show for a kid.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So they give incentives for acting like a girl and
punishments for acting like a boy until and that's why
you see parents with.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
More than one kid like this.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
This is why you see famous people with these sorts
of kids, because they wanted it. It's it's another thing
for them. It's their agent told them it would make
them more interesting, they would do more interviews. Do you
notice the percentage of people who are famous celebrities that

(06:33):
have children that have transitioned. It's probably thirty to one
what your average plant worker in Beaumont has. It's not
an accident. They go looking for what's the hot new thing.
Used to be talking about global warming. Now it's transitioning
your kid. It's freakish, it's weird, and we should never

(06:54):
normalize that. Michael. So there's a term. I don't know
what year it came into being, but it was like
all of a sudden, overnight we started hearing it. And
it is the term normalize. I'll give you an example,

(07:14):
because you've heard it a lot. We don't want to
normalize little boys getting their wien or chopped off, to
think they're going to become a girl when they're not
old enough to stop eating their buggers. This is a
bad idea. We don't want to normalize this, this or this.

(07:38):
And I remember when I first heard it, and I
don't know when that was. I just remember thinking, I
keep hearing this phrase. It's like when Trump started talking
about the fake news in twenty fifteen. Adam Carolla says

(07:59):
that Adam first use that term. I don't know if
that's true or not.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It might be.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't know if Trump claims he coined the term
or not. I don't have any reason to believe that
Adam just made that up. He's a he's a he's
a very sharp guy. He has some very interesting and
and oftentimes visionary perspectives. He's a he's a very good communicator.
I'm a fan. We're not friends, but I'm a fan.

(08:30):
But I don't know who coined this term normalized. I
just know that all of a sudden, I started hearing
it in on conservative radio. I started hearing it in
political discussions that we don't want to normalize this behavior,
normalize this thing. And I've spent a fair amount of

(08:52):
time thinking about one of this term or this concept
is so important, and I think this that this is significant.
I'll give you an example. So if when you walk
into the office every day, the window, the front window

(09:15):
to the front door is busted out, there's glass all
over the floor, and the police are there with a
yellow tape and there's been another break in. The first
day that happens, you're gonna be blown away. Oh my god,
what happened? Hey, we need to wait outside.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I know what you gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
What happens is my office? Well this it was a
break in overnight and somebody was shot.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Who was it? I can't tell you, but it was
the overnight shift. Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
The second day you come into the office, you're not again.
You get no way, there's no way this. This has
got to stop. At day ten, fifteen, twenty fifty eighty,
one point thirty, at some point in the process, you
on your into work would assume that the window would

(10:04):
be busted out and there could very likely be someone
wounded or dead inside, and you would it would stop
bothering you so much. You would never be as shocked
and and freaked out as you were that first day.

(10:24):
It would be a diminishing level of shock and fear
and anxiety. And at some point you might just enter
from the back door and just stop going through the front,
because you'd know there would.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Be officers there.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Because every night, some homeless guy would smash out the
window and you just move around to the back, and
maybe eventually you'd move, but let's say you couldn't get
out of your leaves or whatever. It would become something
that you were numb to at that moment. Your opposition

(11:00):
to people smashing in windows would have diminished greatly. Your
frustration with police over their inability to stop this behavior
will have diminished greatly.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It won't get worse. It would reduce.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You would find other ways to occupy your time, your energy,
your mindset, your list of things to do.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
It wouldn't grow, it would reduce.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
The first time someone wrongs you who's a close friend,
it bothers you, maybe a lot, but in time it diminishes. Well,
that's just what that guy does. The first time that
the guy two doors over who just moved in, drives
down the street blows it, blowing his exhaut a right

(11:51):
in the middle of the night, and it wakes you up.
The first night, you're pretty hot about it. By day
three hundred, you either move or you get used to it.
You start adapting, You put headsets on, you play some
white noise, because it becomes your new normal. I read

(12:13):
a lot about people who are thrust into environments that
are quite unlike their own. Really rich powerful people who
go to prison, or people who lose everything and end
up very poor, or people who live in a big
American city and relocate to a small island. Maybe they're
on the run McAfee or something. But one of the

(12:36):
things that is a consistent is that we normalize that
which we grow accustomed to very quickly.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
We adapt.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So what happens in the political process and the people
who are in the process of changing that process to
the way they want it to be is to do
something consistently as if it is normal. To start when
you first notice it by denying it's happening. Hey, you

(13:10):
cheated in twenty twenty. You stole all those votes.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're crazy for saying that, and you must never be
allowed to speak that in public. You're a crazy person.
We're gonna sue you. You're not allowed to be on CNN,
You're not allowed to be on Fox. You're a bad person.
You're saying things that are You are a threat to democracy.
You must never say that again. Well, once they do that,
long enough, they did this during COVID. You silence people.

(13:35):
You destroy people, You marginalize people, and you let it
be known it's not quiet that they were ruined. You
let it be known that whoever else scarecrow effect speaks
out will be destroyed, so that the next time there's fraud,
people aren't shocked anymore in what happens. And you will

(13:56):
notice you've done this in your own life. You expect
it to be the case that they will be cheating.
You're not bothered anymore. You expect it. And when you
expect it and you're not bothered by it, it will
only get worse. And this is where cultures rot. This
is where countries fall into a trap from which they

(14:20):
cannot get themselves out because people expect corruption, they expect violence,
they expect a lack of response from the police. They
expect things to be wrong and evil and awful. That's
what the Democrats are cant.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Hell, Yes, we're gonna take your ar fifteen obeyed, Oh yes, yes,
yes yes.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Bonnie Tyler turned seventy five yesterday. Into early occasions, she died,
joining the club of people who died on the day
they were born, which includes, as.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
You'll remember, Laurel Haggard, who.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Was a sixth which was one year in five days
after he played the RCC.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Also a pretty rarefied air, William Shakespeare Ingrid Bergmann of
the fantastic Casablanca film. If you haven't watched Casablanca, I've
been going back and watching classic films. That's a nineteen
forty two film, and boy does it ever hold up well.
Raphael the Renaissance painter and architect. Oh, by the way,

(15:33):
Betty for Dan, I could do without her machine gun. Kelly,
the gangster from the Prohibition era, died of heart failure
on his fifty ninth birthday.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Bonnie Tyler Jim looked it up.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Total Eclipse of the Heart has over a billion views
or a billion listens on Spotify.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I don't know how many songs have that, but
it's not many.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's pretty rarefied air. But Bonnie Tyler has a song.
I will ask you to take a moment before I
tell you she has another song that you know. If
you're a big Bonnie Tyler fan, you may know more
than a few of her songs. But she has another song.
She had been on the scene several years before she

(16:24):
hits it with Total Eclipse of the Heart, which is
one of the biggest songs of all time. It's one
of those songs that I don't think anybody views as
or would say it's their favorite song, but it it's
like white or Shade of Pale.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Everybody knows it.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Although Paul McCartney said that was his favorite song of
the sixties. She has another hit. I'm not going to
tell you yet, but I want you to rack your
brain and see if you can remember little known Bonnie Tyler.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Fact.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
She was born Gainer Hopkins in Wales. It was actually
from a Welsh family. She has an interesting career, very
very interesting career. Did you think of what the other
song was, Jim, you know what, We'll just come back
with it. Yeah, we'll just come back with it the
next one, and if you remember it, good for you.

(17:17):
I didn't realize she had died. Oh no, no, she
didn't down her birthday, damn it. She should have died
a month ago. She was born eighth of June nineteen
fifty one. She died eighth of July twenty twenty six.
I mean, I'm sure she wanted that last month. But

(17:37):
you know, once you're gone, it should kind of be interesting,
you know, what happened. There was a story. I know,
I know that that's.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Terrible to say, but it's true. Years later, we're.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Going to talk about, you know what amazing thing you
did or you didn't. An Argentinean flight instructor committed suicide
mid lesson. He jumps out of the plane that he
is teaching his student in and he tells the student,

(18:11):
you know what you have to do. The student did
have some solo flying experience and if you're wondering, was
able to land the plane. Leandro Andres Bertasso was identified
as the instructor who bailed out of the Cessna one

(18:34):
fifty g aircraft over the central Argentinian town of Toledo
on July fourth. Bertazzo's twenty two year old students. A
student says he told her, you know what you have
to do.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Carry on.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then he unbuckled his seat, removed his headset, opened the
plane door and jumped out. The young lady who was
flying the plane alerted officials at the Flying Parrot Fly
School in Cordoba to the mid air tragedy and was

(19:10):
guided through emergency protocols to safely land the training plane.
Flying Parrot director Eduardo Alveres said about the student, she
was very shaken, you think, but with complete professionalism. She
piloted the plane to the airfield and landed perfectly. She
maintained a very high level of training and professionalism. Bertazzo's

(19:34):
body was later found. Investigators say Bertazzo had been suffering
mentally and had checked himself into a clinic for mental health,
unbeknownst to anyone.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
But his close relatives.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Officials were mystified about Bertazzo's jump, saying, it is difficult
to open the aircraft's doors midflight. That's what I've always heard,
comparing it to opening a car door while driving roughly
one hundred and twenty five miles an hour. What if
he had tried to open the doors the door but couldn't,

(20:10):
and she's sitting there going, hey, what are you doing.
You're taking all your gear off, you're taking your seat
belt off, and you're trying to open the door. It
appears you're trying to jump out. I am, but this
damn door. It's like opening a door underwater. The pressure

(20:31):
I hadn't compensated for the Can you slow down a
little so we can reduce the wind pressure on this door?
What that I can jump, but keep your altitude because
I don't want to jump from too short a distance
and then just leave me maimed where I have to
suffer the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
It needs you to.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Keep this altitude, a good high altitude, but maybe slow
down coast for a minute. And you got to figure
a guy's getting ready to die. It's nothing for him
to crash the plane with the both of you.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
He didn't care.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
What are the consequence is going to be. It's still
we're talking about this during the break. It still takes
me back to the moment when the San Francisco news
station played or or voiced the story of the crash,
which was a legitimate crash, and somebody in the newsroom

(21:32):
who got fired, but who cares. He's got a story
for the rest of his life. I think he was
an intern who actually wrote the script that they delivered.
You remember this.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
We have new.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Information now also on the plane crash. K TV has
just learned the names of the four pilots who are
on board the flight. They are Captain some Ting Wong,
we Too, Low, Ho Lee Fuk, and Bang dang Ao.
The NTSB has come these are the names of the
pilots on board Flight two fourteen when it crashed. We

(22:05):
are working to determine exactly what roles each of them
played during the landing On Saturday.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Chad always reminds me that the story includes the line
the NTSB has confirmed these are the names. Play that
one more time, because at each step the names actually
reflect that they're crack one more time.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Jim, this is this is the Michael Berrie show.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It has been a fascinating, lifelong study for me. How
many people achieve incredible success in their chosen field who
violate the fundamentals of that field that are accepted for

(22:57):
the tenets of excellence. Bonnie Tyler's voice, she wouldn't get
the lead vocal at her school play because her voice
isn't quote unquote pretty.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
It's rasping.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
There is what is understood to be a pretty voice,
and she ain't it. But she's got more Spotify lessons,
more record sales, more sold out shows than singers with

(23:40):
far prettier voices. Stevie Nick same way. Those two wouldn't
be the lead in the high school choir. At Orangeville
High School, we didn't have a choir. So's one reason
they wouldn't. But even if they did, we only had
one hundred people per grade, they wouldn't have been chosen.

(24:02):
It's like Tom Waits or Joe Cocker. You think about
how many people, Jim, make me a list real quick
of three people in their chosen field, and it cannot
be music who rose to the top. I'll give you
a couple off the top of my head. Oh all Twove.

(24:24):
All Tuove may be the greatest example of anything ever
of all time, Spudweb.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
All Twove.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I mean you talk about an inspiration. I took my
kids down in the locker room. The whole deal, the
whole experience is life. You know, once in a lifetime
kind of memory. All Twove came over to talk to
us and Michael t at twelve was taller than him,
considerably taller than him. And here's a guy, here's a

(24:57):
guy that has more home runs and I'll I bet
you he will have in the course of his career.
And this also speaks to the longevity. But I'll bet
you he'll be in the top one percent of home
runs of all time. He ain't gonna beat Hank Aaron,
he ain't gonna beat Stan Musual or Babe Ruth or
Mike Schmidt or Mark McGuire or Sammy Soso. I don't

(25:20):
know what his career home runs are, but home runs
per square inch, there's no doubt he's it man. Looking
like Eddie le Baron hitting that many home runs. I'll
give you a good one for those of you who
are tennis fans, and that is John McEnroe. If you
look at McEnroe's strokes, his strokes are so outside the

(25:44):
norm of what are taught. His forehand would be considered
by any tennis instructor in the country fundamentally unsound. His
backhand would be considered fundamentally unsound. They are not pretty
strokes under any terms. His serve was a little different

(26:09):
than some, but that wasn't as odd. But to get
to get the velocity out of his serve, and of
course he had the best control. He was a lefty,
so on the ad court he could he could bring
you out wide. But here's a guy that if you
gathered up all the kids on the team and you
just watched them hit a couple of balls before you

(26:30):
saw the competitive advance, the competitive edge. You know, Tom
Brady coming out of the draft, what was he picked
number two hundred, and you see that picture of him,
and and he's there's nothing about him that looks like
an NFL quarterback. He's he's kind of skinny, but he's

(26:51):
also flabby. There there's nothing athletic about it. He didn't
he didn't score well on the he didn't even ace.
The wondering he didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
He wasn't physical, his jump, his foot speed, none of it.
I don't believe he's the greatest player of all time,
but I know that a lot of people do. But
he's definitely in the conversation and you wouldn't guess it.
Doug Flutie, of course, he had to go to Canada
to get noticed and come back and could never really
hold down a job for you know, multiple seasons in

(27:26):
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
But look, I tall the dude was. He was tiny.
I mean, Jimmy got anymore for me? John Daly. Although
it's a little easier in golf, isn't it. I mean,
you got a figure.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
But to think about how many players can play that well,
he's not even supposed to be alive. How many players
can play that well, that drunk that long? And boy
has he ever done it. And who doesn't love John Daly?
I mean, you have to like John day You can

(28:00):
not like John Daily. If you don't like John daya
you're not a good person. You can choose not to
like Tiger because he had some you know, a little
period there where he was cocky, which he deserved. He
didn't he didn't speak up for Fuzzy Zeller. I'll never
forgive him for that. Who else you got? Steve Bushamy? Yeah, yeah,
well just because he's ugly. You mean, yeah, he's an

(28:23):
ugly little fellow. But but it's almost like you do
need that role, right, You had Michael Madsden, you had,
you know, you had your good You had what was it,
Timothy Roth. You had who played the old man? You
remember the old man Joe that put it together. He
was fantastic. Chris Penn was fat as a hog, but

(28:43):
somehow that worked for that character. Who else you got?
Geedty Lee of Rush. If Ray Briers is listening right now,
he just had a, shall we say, an exciting moment
Getty Lee of Rush? Why why do you say it's

(29:05):
not a typical vocal? You're right, and it's probably not
a vocal that if you were to say for that
genre at that time when they really hit it. You know,
Rush is an interesting I never got into Rush, and
it makes people mad when I say that.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I'm not opposed to Rush.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I don't dislike them, but like Ray brier Is named
his kids after you know, Getty Lee.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
The kids crazy over it, and I know a lot
of our listeners are. In fact, I asked for a.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Quote the other day, you know, just one quote that
you really like from a song, and I think the
number one quote was not making a choice? Is making
a choice. And I was surprised that that was the
one that came up. More like, there's a lot of really,
I know a number of people who I just happened
to know. They're probably more than that who went to
see them in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
The other day. I mean even without.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
There, you know, yeah, Neil Perton getting who.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
What?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh? They have a woman drummer? Huh?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Not as good as RNL pineda. The little dude that
replaced Steve Perry in Journey. That little dude is Steve Perry.
That would kind of bother me by Steve Perry. He's
better Steve Perry than Steve Perris.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Els has left good thank you, and good night.
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