PM Show Hr 2 | Talking to Ray Wylie Hubbard on His 79th Birthday

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I didn't want this shutdown. I wanted to end, but
not at any cost. And of course I wish that
there was a path to saving this democracy and saving
people's health care that didn't involve pain this shutdown her
It did, But unfortunately, I don't think there is a

(00:33):
way to save this country, to save our democracy without
there being.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Some difficult, hard moments belong.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
So the bottom line is the Democrats went into this
after a blue wave out of the American people saying
we do want the opposition, the working people want the
Democratic Party to fight for them, and now they just
cave and surrendered. I think Chuck Schumer his days are over.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
You cannot put that and you cannot keep Clocketts together.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
If he cannot keep this crocket together, he needs a dot.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
I didn't fully understand how he under the rig.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't want to just.

Speaker 7 (01:11):
Move past this shut down without drawing some attention to
some things that happen that are important during that time.
Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno, a Republican, called out Chuck Schumer
on the Senate floor over the Democrat proposal that would

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send Obamacare subsidies to millionaires. Now, Republicans aren't the party
of the poor, but neither are the Democrats. The Democrats
don't actually hate rich people, They just want to reward
their rich friends, and calling out that hypocrisy is critically important.

Speaker 8 (01:56):
So for one year, people making millions of dollars still
receive these covid ear subsidies.

Speaker 9 (02:02):
The bottom line is the senator from Ohio ignores that
ninety nine percent of people. You want to hurt people
making ten thousand and fifty ninety thousand, and hold this up.
We can fix what the gentleman said in a negotiation,
but don't have people who are every day being hurt

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hurt by paying thousands of dollars more that they can't afford.
I know that the Senator from Ohio cares about the billionaires.
We care about average working people. I yield the floor.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
So just to be clear, just to be presidents, So
just to be clear, what you heard from the minority
leader was the following.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I's want to recap it for those of whom I
have missed. Number one.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
He acknowledged that the Democrats have actually not put forward
a written proposal that people could look at number two,
he acknowledged that his plan would be to allow millionaires.
Let me just say that clearly, people making millions of
dollars would receive Biden era COVID Obamacare subsidies.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
You heard that right, no income cap.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
I wasn't going to ask him before he stormed out
of the room, because evidently he doesn't want to hear
any opposing views or actually engage in meaningful negotiation.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
We played this audio already, but I want to play
it again because it's a setup for another audio I
wanted to play, and that's Anna Navarro, who has her
stock in trade is Oh, I'm a Hispanic Republican who
hates Trump. Because she was just another Democrat, nobody'd pay
attention to her. That's been her little stick for a while.

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She was on CNN and said with a straight face
that she knows a lot of Republicans and she knows
a lot of Democrats, and the Republicans are just mean.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
But I know a lot of Republicans. I know a
lot of them. They're cut from different cloths.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Democrats simply don't have the coldheartedness necessary to see people
suffering and just say let them eat cake.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But they are not the times.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I mean, you just heard Democrats Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Doing in the meantime.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
He's the president of.

Speaker 9 (04:23):
The United States.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
He was the most powerful president with Republicans in my lifetime.
He never once even told them come back to Washington.
You just played out of out of Washington for a
month and a half.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
A month and a half.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
After Democrats admit that the Democratic plan to prolong the
shutdown was causing quote suffering. That was their words, not mine.
Democrats themselves realized the tactic of suffering was no longer
something they could personally stomach. That was their party, not Republicans.

Speaker 10 (04:55):
The seven Democrats wrote it for this Democrat.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
No, he caucuses with, he caucuses with. Well, let's talk.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
About who is and isn't mean, because this is apparently
an important thing to people.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You know, if you're nice or not. Forget the policies, right,
So I.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
Guess if Hitler was real nice and gave you candy
and compliments, he'd be great.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
This is the mindset of these people.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
One uniquely qualified person to talk about who is meaner
between the two parties is Cheryl Hines. She's the wife
of RFK Junior. Remember he ran for president. Last year,
she was on Club Random with Bill Maher and she
said it's the Republicans who have treated her family, lifelong Democrats,
by the way that the blue blood Democrats, the Kennedys,

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She says, Republicans who treated us much better.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
The Republicans have been very kind to me from the beginning,
even from the beginning when when Bobby was running as
a Democrat. They were they were, they weren't mean no,
and they never have been.

Speaker 11 (06:08):
No.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
And uh and I can't say that for the Democrats.

Speaker 11 (06:12):
I agree, And it's it's sad because it's not the
Democrats we grew up with.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
Great.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, and that's that's.

Speaker 11 (06:19):
The difference that people don't I think. See, they're like,
why did you turn on the Democrats? Well, first of all,
I didn't, like I said, we voted for the same person.
But I'm not going to pretend I don't notice. Yeah,
how different they are, Yeah, how mean?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
They could come very much.

Speaker 10 (06:38):
We're gonna add a little bit about these war houses.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I know all about. Ramon wants to know what around
the world is.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, Whosker doos
whosker don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Stick or one single whistling kiddy chaser.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
With the longest government shut down on an American history over,
Minnesota's governor Timmy Waltz is very, very excited.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
He talked about it on his podcast, Hello.

Speaker 12 (07:13):
America. You're listening to the number twelve most popular.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Podcast just out of Canada, and we are to outing
to happiness. Who's got the swag of who's got the
plans walls?

Speaker 9 (07:29):
He's the main mad.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
With a mic in his hand and a lass of
grad He's up in wisdom.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Bunky, Timmy Wills, don't put no games.

Speaker 12 (07:43):
Super excited today if.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
We felt like good times, come on.

Speaker 12 (07:48):
The government is back open after forty three days of darkness.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Time for walls of plow.

Speaker 12 (07:57):
For Republicans. You can shut up because the shutdown is over.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
No thanks to you.

Speaker 12 (08:03):
Now, I did have my assistant Bruise, take a pole
and you know I love a good poll. And the
results show that white males are blaming Democrats for the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Ridiculous.

Speaker 12 (08:16):
Listen, it's a well known fact on the Voice of
the White American red blooded mail.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know, the manly man.

Speaker 12 (08:22):
So allow the old ball coach to explain this in
terms you'll understand. Like any good football coach, you gotta
be good at the p's and q's.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
You see, the.

Speaker 12 (08:30):
Democrats, we move the baseball right down the field and
hit a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We grabbed the ball laid it up for a home run.
The Democrats.

Speaker 12 (08:39):
You see, we shot a triple and made more runs
than those Republicans. So you Republicans, you can burn us
and eat my rubber. Feel so good to be a
man hug at that times getting away from me, I'm
gonna miss my pity toot.

Speaker 7 (08:55):
To the impacts of the shutdown are being reported as follows.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Forty two million in.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Lost snap benefits, forty two million people, five point two
million airline passengers impacted.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
One point four.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Million federal workers missed paychecks, and fifteen billion dollars lost
per week in what was it a five week shutdown,
so seventy five billion dollars. I don't know how it
affected you in a tangible way that you felt. The

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thing I heard the most from was the airport. And
I truly believe that there was an effort made by
some people to make it more difficult on us, to
make the shutdown more painful, to cause problems for Trump.

(10:19):
We know that shutdown. Schumer worked very hard behind the
scenes to keep the government shut down. We know that
two weeks into it, twenty days ago, he told the
moderate Democrats who were looking to who were looking to

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vote to end they were looking to vote with their
own conscience, that they couldn't do that, that he would
punish them if they did that, and so they did not. Finally,
I think enough of them were catching hell and what

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is up happening is this is what this is.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
This is the.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
Really dirty part of the way legislative bodies work. John
Cornyn is very deep into this part of the process.
Eight Democrat senators voted to kill the end the filibuster
so that the government can reopen, and that those eight

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senators don't necessarily vote their conscience. If they had, Kristen
Cinema would have voted to close it. Fetterman, I believe,
genuinely believed, because he was saying it constantly, we need
to end the shutdown. But of those eight Durban, Hussan, King, Cortes, Mastow, Cain, Shaheen, Rosen,

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and of course Fetterman. What will typically be done and
I haven't looked. I should look, but I haven't looked.
What will typically be done is a senator who's up
for a re election who needs to show that he
who has like a Democrat challenger in his primary. That
guy can't vote with the Republicans. That guy can't do
what's best for the country if it looks like he's

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helping the Republicans. That guy has to do the most
Democrat thing possible because he's got a primary season coming up.
But if you're a guy that was elected two years ago,
you got a six year term, you're one of the
guys that can follow on your sword and vote with
the Republicans because it's going to be four years before
you're up for reelection and voters you will have had

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a lot of other manufactured crises in the meantime. Part
of why these crises are manufactured is if you leave
people alone and let them live their lives, they'll go
by beach houses and lake houses. They'll hunt and they'll fish,
they'll go to sporting events, they'll take on projects. They'll volunteer,

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they'll prepare for a marathon, they'll travel, they'll build businesses.
So the challenge of politics is you have to keep
it top of mind for Americans all the time, because
if Americans are not obsessed with politics every moment of
every day, they won't keep giving money to it. They

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won't keep feeding the beast. And if you've ever made
the mistake of making a political contribution, you know they're
going to hit you for the rest of your life.
You're going to get mail, You're gonna get email, you're
going to get text messages. They're never going to stop.
Because there's two types of people. People who give multiple
times to politicians and people who've never given before and

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will never give again. They're not a contributor. The person
they're going after is the person who is prone to
write a check, because if you've made a donation before,
you're a person comfortable making a donation. Doesn't make you
rich because it can be small donations, but you're a
person who is willing to do it. And if your
person is willing to do it, that's where all the

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energy is directed.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You're the one.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
You're the one that they want, and you're not going
to give money if you haven't seen them in the news,
if there is not some issue. That's the reason highly
polarized politics is good for everybody in the industry. People
can't we all just get along, No, because then you
won't contribute.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
They have to keep you on edge.

Speaker 10 (14:27):
Well, lucky you.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
The Michael Ferry Show continues your lucky day.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
We welcome to the program, Great and powerful Ray Willy
Hubbard on his seventy ninth birthday.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Happy birthday, my friend.

Speaker 10 (14:43):
Oh thank you man, Michael.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
How are you It's been a while, It's been a while.
How are you? How are you doing? It's your birthday?

Speaker 10 (14:50):
Well, I'm probably doing better than I deserve, as they say, I.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Should have looked this up. But remind me, is it Soper, Oklahoma?

Speaker 10 (14:58):
Soper, Oklahoma?

Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (14:59):
Where born in Hugo, Oklahoma, which was known as Circustown,
USA back in the fifties and sixties were all these
Searches made their winter home. And then we moved to
sober and then we moved to Dallas Oak Cliff. When
I was eight years old, went to high school there
and got in uh got a little folk group there
at the w ash Adamson Michael Murphy. I saw him

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performing an assembly and I went, oh, man, I got
to get a guitar. So that's where it kind of
all started.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
And everybody has their their first guitar story. It's usually
somebody bought it for them as a gift. But how
did yours come about?

Speaker 10 (15:34):
Well, I think my mom bought me one, and I
went and learned, uh, hang down your head, Tom Dooley,
and Delia's gone oh and then uh, and then I
think it learned uh Peter Gunn the theme from Peter
Gunn down out.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Yeah, how about that? And how did you learn them?
I mean you just had the book and you.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Picked at it.

Speaker 10 (15:56):
Now, well, they didn't have that back, and you would
have to listen, you know, you would listen, you know,
they had the record player and you'd have to pick
you'd listen to it, and you pick the needle up
and put it back over it till you could hear
the lick, you know, Almo, Yeah, it was. There wasn't
no eighty YouTube or anything. You had to, like I say,
pick up the needle and put it back at the
start and run that lick and just keep doing it

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till you kindly figure it out.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
When I was in about the third grade, my brother
was in seventh grade and he got a guitar, and
he was musically inclined. He played the trumpet, and as
I said, he was musically inclined and I wasn't. And
he was sitting in his room which was right next
to mine, and the doors were hollow, so he'd I'd
put my ear to it, and then I'd burst in
and make fun of him. But he'd sit in there,

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peas peas, peas PE's. He was learning his chords and
he could sing along to him, eating goober peas. And
so I've told that story on the air, and apparently
a lot of people learned to play the guitar to that.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
That was it. Yeah, you just you know, you didn't,
you know, we couldn't afford to go to take music
lessons or anything. And so yeah, you get that old
male Bay cord book and you place here, your fingers hurt,
and you quit, and you go back and you play
it again, you know.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Yeah, so take me from there. You buy the first guitar,
and then what happens, Well, then I.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
Got a little folk group in high school called the
you know what, two guys Rick and Wayne, and we
had a little folk group, and then we got a
I got a gig in red River, New Mexico, which
at a barbecue joint. So we got on a bus
in Dallas and twenty twenty eight hours later we got
off in Questa. We go to this barbecue joint and

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the guy says, well, boys, was out of playing at night.
One of the is gonna wrap potatoes and tenfold, one
of u's gonna mop, one of the's gonna wash the dishes.
So that was our big time professional gig. Then that
next year, the banjo player now we left and we
went up to Colorado and it was just the two
of us, and what we would do about six o'clock

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at night, we'd find a cafe like in Breaking Ridge
or Grand Junction, or you know wherever, and we're about
six o'clock. He had strapped on a banjo and I
put on a guitar, would walk in the front door
playing Foggy Mountain break Down, and all of a sudden
he would stop and he'd go, I'm Rick, this is Ray,
we're the self procis Brothers, and that's still a good

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name for a band band. And then they say, and
we'd wonder if we could play some songs for a
hamburger and a place to stay to go back in
the fall, you use, the owner would come out and
some guys say, I'll buy a burger and then we'd
So we went all through Colorado that summer when we
were I guess eighteen years old doing that and a couple.
You know, there was the time we slipping along from that,

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but you know it was fun. That's what we did,
you know. And then uh, then after that, I just
kept playing and ran into Austin in that whole progressive
country scare with Willie and Jerry, Jeff, Michael Murphy and
just got into writing. You know.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So so he wasn't Michael Martin Murphy back then.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
He was just he was a actually uh he was
a senior at Emson High School and I was a sophomore.
And uh, he may not mock me telling this, but
he was a cheerleader.

Speaker 12 (19:09):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 10 (19:10):
Yeah, and uh he was you know famous and uh
in high school and he was just uh and he
came out on stage one time and wrote a said,
this is a song I wrote, Alison. I went songwriter. Wow.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
You know.

Speaker 10 (19:24):
So yeah, he was very instrumental in uh getting me.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Morril was a was a cheerleader at Memorial High at
Stratford High School. As a matter of yeah, it just
looks so I wouldn't ask any dumb questions or fewer.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
But it says you went to high school with b W. Stevenson.

Speaker 10 (19:40):
Yep, yep, he was. Uh he was. I was a
sophomore and he was a freshman back then. And then
after high school, UH b W went into the Air
Force and was stationed up in uh Wichita Falls, and
I was had a little apartment there in Denton, and
he would come down on the weekend and we would
learn guitar chords and uh play and everything and so yeah,

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and then he went out to California with us and
hung out.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So yeah, I just heard My Maria two days ago.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
I was pulling up to see my dad at the
old Folks Home and I'm pulling up and I'm pulling
into my spot and my Maria comes on and I
pulled in and sat there.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I call that a driveway listener, when you listened to
the radio this way.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
And I had to listen to the end of that
and you know the original version, his version, I think,
is that's such a good song.

Speaker 10 (20:28):
Well he was just you know, we were up and
we went out to California. We were we was at
my little folk group. We had a gig out there
at the Passa House in Pasadena, and BW went out
there and he'd wrote out there with us, and all
of a sudden, Uh, we were staying with an actor
friend of Aris Roy s Applegate up the Hollywood Hills
and being able to said I'm gonna go out and
see what's out there. And he left two bits. Two

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weeks later he came back and said, I wrote these songs.
I said, sing me one. So he's sang uh Highway one,
and I said, sing me in the other one. You
just got lucky. And then he sing, I feel like
a baby boy on my own baby boy being born.
And man, he was just off and running.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
You know.

Speaker 10 (21:09):
He was a great cat, incredible voice, greater songwriter.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
I don't think it's accidental how often you see these guys,
whether it's the great American writers in Paris in the
twenties or you know, you see these guys that that
that they create a you know, kind of a cabal,
a little collective, and it becomes sort of a fraternity
and they're playing off of each other and encouraging each
other and competing against each other, you know, the Beatles

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versus uh the Beach Boys, and and I think that's
that seems to be a very common trend. I mean,
I wonder if Michael Murphy or Michael Martin Murphy as
we call him, hadn't done that, if you'd be where
you are today.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
Probably not. You know, I feel very fortunate it started
up in folk music, you know, and uh, you know,
you find uh, you know, Peter, Paul and Mary and
through them you find Dylan, then you find what he
got through and you find Cisco Houston all that. But
at that same time, when I was, you know, getting
into it all of a sudden, man, you had Guy Clark,

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Towns van Zant and Billy Joe Shavern, Willie and Jerry
Cheff and all these guys, you know, and uh there
there wasn't really any big eagle thing. I mean, Jerry
Cheff was a great songwriter, but he would always include
a song by an unknown young songwriter on his album
Gary Dunn or you know, Guy Clark or me, and

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uh so it was just a really was a fellowship
of uh you know, these guys learning and from each
other and caring. I remember Rushy Weir was a big shot,
you know, and I was supposed to open for him
at some club and we had a flat. So I
called the club and said, hey, man, I don't think open.
Russey said did, It doesn't matter, I'll go on first.

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You know, there wasn't any big ego about top billing.
He said, yeah, I'm going first, which I means I
had to follow Russy Weir, But you know what I mean,
it was it really were just very gracious.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Yeah, well there's a group of those guys, some of
them have left us. Was Stephen Fromhol's part of that fraternity?

Speaker 10 (23:09):
Yeah, Stephen Promos, Yeah, Stephen Bram That was a great man. Yeah,
he came out of Colorado and he was part of that.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:16):
In fact, they have a few beers when I became
Blood Brothers.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well, you know one of the.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Best stories, right, guy Michael Berry's show, legendary personality, friend
of Willie Nelson and every Texan Ray. Willy Hubbard is
our guest. It's his birthday. I know Willie thinks the
world of view and I'm assuming Leon Russell was kind
of weaving in and out of this group at some point.

Speaker 10 (23:42):
Yeah. We uh, well, you know.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
He was. Uh.

Speaker 10 (23:47):
Leon was you know at some back in those days
when Willy had his picnic, you know, Leon would sit
in with everybody and we went up there and uh
did some stuff at the church. But yeah, Leon was
just a great part of it.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
You know, I think my favorite Robert o' keene story
is about his his car burning up and he gets
invited to come and meet Willie on his bus but
they're leaving to go jam with Leon Russell and you know,
all these years later the highwaymen recorded his song.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So it all made it, It all made.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
It, okay, Yeah, it was just you know, I say,
Willie's picnic was just an incredible you know. Uh, you know,
you know, I'm pretty strange, but it was, you know,
there was there wasn't any you know, we uh I'm
playing and so you know, I remember when Willie the

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first time played Caesar's Palace in Lake Tahoe. He called
me and said, hey, man, you want to a couple
of play Caesar's Palace with me? And I said yeah,
and uh but anyha, they said, well they didn't have
opening acts in the main room, so we said, well,
won't you play in the lounge? So we set up
in the lounge and all these people were being line
to see Willie. Well, will It is over on the

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side of the stage, sitting on an ampland guitar with me.
You know, I said, don't kill anybody. You know, they
could have just come in the lound and seen Willie
roight there right. But you know it was you know,
there there wasn't any There wasn't a lot of ego
involved with you know, once you kind of became a
member of the group.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
You know, well, I've noticed with you, perhaps more than
anybody else that I came in contract contact with through
the RCC days and through chasing my music across the state.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Is there's no ego?

Speaker 7 (25:34):
Is there is that intentional? Or is that just kind
of your personality? Did you make a decision one day, Hey,
I don't want to be like that guy.

Speaker 10 (25:42):
Well it's a thing too. All of a sudden, I think,
keeping my gratitude higher than my expectations, that's one thing.
And then all of a sudden, really, uh, you know
it's it's writing these songs. Well, like I say, and
also I'll send you write this song and I'll say,

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you say, man, it's a great song. I'll send you
walk into a club and all of a sudden, mcmurker goes,
here's a song I wrote, and you go, oh, you know,
so it keeps you humble, you know, among all the songwriters.
So you know, you couldn't couldn't get a big ego,
you know, because there's always you know, Guy or Towns
or Billy Joe, you know, writing these incredible songs and

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U and one of the one of the great things
that comes up and says, hey man, I like that
little song that was aggression.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know.

Speaker 10 (26:33):
It wasn't an eagle thing. It was a self esteem
thing that hey man, you know I got Kevin Welch
dug one of my.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Songs, you know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
You mentioned Jerry Jeff Walker, and I know that y'all
had quite the association.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
What did it do for you?

Speaker 7 (26:53):
In seventy three when he records Up Against the Wall Rednickmother,
which of course you'd written.

Speaker 10 (26:58):
Well, well, it gave me a middle name.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
You know.

Speaker 10 (27:00):
I was Ray Hubbard up before that, but then Bob
Blumingston on the album said this, I was by Ray
Willy Hubbard, you know, So all of a sudden and
and Jerry's regularly. We wanted to take that off the
record because they said, well, if they hear this on
the radio, they think that's Ray Waller Hubbert's singing, and
Jerry goes, I don't care leave it on there. So
for one thing, I got a middle name. Also, I

(27:20):
was Ray Wally Hubbert then and at the time it
was now, and that was the only thing I was
known for, you know, red neck mothers. I do these
old honkey talks and I'd walk on stage and they
go play red neck mother and I play red deck
mother and I go, here's another and so yeah, it

(27:43):
was kind of a not an alvatro, but it was
the only thing I was known for a while. And
today you know, I still do it, but it's fun.
So I got a you know, pretty strong arsenal. You
know with drunken poet snake form.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
You do, you have a very strong meersenal. I've told
the story many times over the years. Ray Wild Hubert
is our guest by the way of how you helped
me get Tony Joe White. He wouldn't return our calls
and then he called you and said, who is this
guy Michael Berry? And why does he want me to
come play his place, and what is it? And you said, yes, yes,
you must play his place. And then I'm leaned against

(28:21):
a wall and somebody comes up and standing right over
my shoulder, but hidden around the wall. So nobody said.
And you had driven in to see him play. And
I asked you why he took your advice to heart
like that, because that was quite a leap of faith.
And you told a great story. Would you mind telling
that again?

Speaker 10 (28:38):
Well, remind me of which story that was.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, he I guess.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
I guess you were down and out and you needed
some cash and he bought the remainder of your studio sessions.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, telling Joe just always.
He was one of those guys like Cherry Chip and
really Joe who really respected other songwriters, you know. And
so I remember I called him. I think you called
me and said, yeah, I sure, I get Tony Joe here,
and I said, well, you know, and he wouldn't ask us.
I call Tony Joe said, Tony Joey says place down

(29:12):
there and you know ground Houston, you know, And I said,
you know. He said, well I don't know about that.
I said, no, man, I think you'll dig it, you know,
and uh so he said, okay, I'll do it. Then.
You know, Tony, Tony Joe is just one of those
great cats. I'll tell you a great Tony Joe's story.
So Tony Joe was playing by Briton Grew Festival. So

(29:33):
he shows up and Tony Joe was the first cat.
We're just a guy and of drummer, you know, before
the wife stripes or the black keys, you know, guitar
and drums. So Tony Joe shows up at my festival
and he's with this guy and you know, walking back
me and I go, hey, Tony Joe goes all good
to be here. I said, who's this? Said? This isn't

(29:55):
my drummer fleet Wood And I go, really, I said,
how y'all meet? He said. They both started laughing. He said, oh,
I just I went to the institution checked him out
for the weekend. We just never been back.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I love the old great stories.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Yeah, so I mean that's so. But yeah, I'm telling
you Joe, I remember, Yeah, that was really a three
old Yeah. If he tough plays, I want to come
down to open for him, you know, got to hang out,
you know.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
Well it was it was very kind of you, and
and and you and mother Hubbard were very kind to
us in landing us Uncle Lucius for your relationship to
Kevin who looks up to you and and has Carl
and and all these folks that looked up to you
and her uh and still do as as you know,
the godfather and the guy that could be trusted, the

(30:45):
guy that would give him good advice, and you always
always said good things.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
And it opened a lot of doors for us. So
a very happy birthday to you, Ray Willy Hubbard, Thank
you very much. We just love an a door to you.
Here's too many many more.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
My friend, Hey, and I think we're going to be
playing in Houston. I don't know where, but I think
it's around December fourth or fifth with Shane Smith rooting
for Shane Smith, so stay in touch with him. Then
I'll put you on the guest list.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Iould love to see you.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
I think it's I think it's around December fourth or fifth,
one of those days.

Speaker 7 (31:21):
Sit in December fourth, romone Sensens fourth seven one three
Music Hall December fourth.

Speaker 10 (31:26):
Okay, yeah, well come on, you'll give me a call.
We'll put your on list. I'd like to hang out
with you.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
We'll be there and we'll send our we'll send our
folks out to support you.

Speaker 10 (31:33):
Thank you, Brother, all right to take care man ideas.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Thank you and good night