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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Last week we had a couple of segments where I
asked a question, if you ended up in jail, how'd
you end up there? What befell you? What stupid thing
did you do? What ill advised? What drug or alcohol
(00:24):
induced courage did you have? What bad decision did you make?
What miscalculation did you suffer? And after the segment and
after the show, I got an email from a fellow
(00:45):
who wrote, I only listened to the podcast, so I
heard the jailbird stuff a little late to the dance.
If you want the details, please ring me up. Should
tell you that the subject line was high I shot somebody.
So his name is Andrew McNulty. And there was a
(01:07):
link to a story headline from KGW eight. Suspect in
Northeast Fremont Street shooting appears in court charged with attempted murder.
Officer said the suspect, Andrew McNaulty fifty eight, shot the
victim in the chest and leg last Friday afternoon. Andrew
(01:29):
MacNulty is our guest. Welcome to the program, sir, Hello Michael,
how are you. I'm good so you don't sound how
old are you? Sixty?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Now? Sixty?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
One sixty one. You sound like you're about thirty two.
Tell me, first of all, set the stage. Where was this.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was in my neighborhood, about ten minutes north of
it's south to where I lived. And I was out
for a walk middle of June two years ago, a
great day. It was just kind of oblivious, and this
guy appears out of no and he's a schizophrenic, homeless
dude on crack and meth and he hates white people
and he was threatening to kill to kill white people
(02:08):
in the neighborhood for months. I had no idea about
this though.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Are you white?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I'm totally white too.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It went all over and I get that. Listen a
little spot.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I got a redneck. But that's that's one other thing.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And so and what is what is he?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He's a schizophrenic on drugs and he's really violent.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What skin color?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh, he's black? Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay? What's his height? Weight?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I only got a glimpse of him for about three seconds.
He's got my height five ten, more muscular, maybe about
two hundred, and you're five ten, maybe one seventy five
these days.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, all right? And so you're out for a walk,
do you have headsets in or are you in any
way distracted? Are you walking and looking at your phone?
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Probably looking at the phone. But it was such a
beautiful day that was just totally oblivious. You know what
summers are like in Portland. It's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I do. Yeah, that's the time to be in Portland. Wow.
It then there's no sun for you know, the entirety
of the winter.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But for if I gad dogs dogs, nose is dark,
wet and cooled.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right right now, you're by yourself. Yeah, and this is
what time of day?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Five fifteen in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, I read a little bit of the story. Somebody
a guy was walking his daughter and a stroller, and
I guess the guy appeared to be approaching you as
if he was going to ask something. So once you
recognize that this guy's coming into your space and making
a beeline to you, what happens from there?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Didn't actually see him make a bee line to me.
That's I heard that report later too, but I did
see the video afterwards. There's a restaurant that don't all
happened right in front of They were closed, but the
video cameras are really good. Quality. It shows this guy
really pissed off and throwing his bag down on the
picnic table in front of the restaurant, and he sheds
(04:12):
one of his shirts and throws that down and then
he bows up like he wants to tear my head off.
And I just looked up at that point and I go, oh,
something's bad, something bad's gonna happen right here.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And what happened.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
He said I'm going to kill you. First, he was
like snarling with his eyes bugged out. I guess cracking
met will do that to you. Then he changes to
looking like Jack Nicholson coming through the door in the
shining with the axe. So the grimace is there and
my eyes just zooming on his face. And that's the
(04:49):
worst thing I could have done, because this guy's a
little tic. Anyway, he says I'm going to kill you,
and I just Drew shot him.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How close was he to you when you shot him?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, I thought he was like twenty feet away, because
my tunnel vision turns out he was about four or
five feet.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wow. Okay, hold with me, just one. This is Sevester Turner,
the mayor, and a human being.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Bi La Michael Bettyshaw probably a good time to note
that bernaurna dot com our show sponsor who makes the
less lethal launchers, has a big sale every year started
on Friday the twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Today, the twenty seventh is the end of it, close
of business today, and it's fifteen percent off everything on
the site. I over the last few years have bought
quite a few of those and given them. I have
found women to be much more receptive than men. I
think it's a machismo thing. Men think that you want
to kill somebody, but I assure you don't want to
(05:58):
kill somebody if you can help it. You want to
stop the threat, like this threat that Andrew mc nultius
talking about here. I found out during the break that
there was an officer involved shooting this morning. The suspect
has been arrested multiple times. The suspect fired ten rounds
(06:19):
at the officers before they returned fire, and they hit
him twice. Not clear yet what his status is or
if any officers were transported. Apparently not is the first
report I got. One of the officers had only been
on the streets for four days. Welcome to policing, son,
(06:43):
How about that callback to your wife or your mom? Hey, Mom,
how's it going, how's it being a police? Ah, it's fine.
Just be careful out there, baby, it's dangerous. I know
you're going to say it's not, but oh I'm not
going to say that anymore. I got shot at today
hardened criminal. Andrew McNulty is our guest. He was a
(07:04):
listener who emailed in and in Portland. A guy charged
him and you shot him from four feet away with
what what were you carrying at?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A little clock? Three fifty seven sig? Thirty three glock?
What thirty three? Three fifty seven sig?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay? And okay, hold on, I'm having audio problems. This
is not your fault. I'm hearing you say a sig
and I'm hearing you say a glock. What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's a glock? Three fifty seven sig?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh? Sick? Oh okay, I'm not familiar with that terminology. Okay,
I know glock's long trigger pull. So where did you
have the gun secreted?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's on my left hip. I'm right handed, okay, so
cross straw okay.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he couldn't see that you weren't open carrying.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, no, no, no, it's Portland. I would jumped.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well no, I figured, I'm just I'm trying to figure
the story out.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Here, all right, So sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You've got it talked. What in your waistband?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, it's actually my gut's a little bit too big
for it to be in there, so it's over to
the side outside of my belt, okay, on my hip.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And as he starts charging, you reach across and draw
and pull out and are you just is it up
against your belly? Had described for me the shot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Put my hand on my waist and so there's nothing
between me and my body but the gun. As far
as charging at me, he disappeared had tunnel vision at
the time, so I assumed he was charging. The video
just shows him moving and I drew really quickly, so
it all happened within about three seconds. But things get
(08:53):
really weird when somebody tries to well they said they're
going to murder you, and then they move.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Sure. Well, you know, I've heard all sorts of different
numbers as to how fast someone is moving in the
distance they are away. But we're never as quick to
get to our weapon, aim and fire, or get to
our weapon and fire as we think, and people close
ground a lot faster than they.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Think, so, you're just reacting.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, so and so did that drop him?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He kept going and I don't even remember the second shot,
but I got him in the hand that time. According
to his father, he had got him four inches below
the heart with the first shot. But he was running.
He ran a little bit, maybe twenty twenty five feet
until down. I couldn't see him because I was just
focused on this little patch of bricks in the wall
(09:51):
at the restaurant because I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Really, So you fired two rounds? Yeah, So he stopped
charging and at that point staggers away twenty year twenty
five feet and then drops and what do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then try to get my head together. I put my
gun away because I figure, you're in Portland, Oregon. You're
going to freak people out. And I walked a little
bit further in the direction I was going to in
the first place, because I saw a couple of people
out in front of a restaurant and I asked them
to call the police, and Beefs showed up. I flagged
him down and had about seven pistols pointing out my chest,
(10:34):
which is pretty weird.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And so they booked you. They cuffed you, stuffed, you
took you down and booked you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah. And if you're arrested on a Friday at five thirty,
you're not getting out until Monday at five thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, okay, So then what happened?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Judge less me out says you got to put away
all of your gun and AMMO and reports of the
beach trial Pearl person. I'm not sure about the terms
because I don't get arrested usually, and they set me
up and a friends said, look, I heard about what
happened to you. You called my lawyers and I just
let the ball in their hands because I don't know
(11:19):
what the hell I'm doing. What do you do? End
of the day, I'm retired if I have been for
about fifteen years, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And so then are you arraigned? Are you indicted? What happens?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah? I went to before they let me out, the
judge told me, you know, reports of the pro pro person.
And after about three or four weeks, my lawyers said,
let's go to court. We're gonna plead, just don't say anything,
let me do the talking, which was fine, and dude's
(11:58):
father showed up and he called me a racist. So
it's stunk because I couldn't open my mouth and say
anything about it, which kind of pissed me off. Frankly. Anyway,
at the end of the day, it dragged out for
about two years, and my homeowners insurance company paid this
dude three hundred thousand dollars. I had to pay him
(12:19):
two and a quarter about two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars, and I spent about one hundred and thirteen
thousand and legal fees. So I think it may be
the burner would have been a good deal.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, you think wow, that is uh, that is disturbing.
It's thank you, Andrew. I'm glad this is over and
you've been able to move beyond it. Every single American
in the course of our lives is going to come
(12:52):
in contact with some nonsense like this, and it is
It's frustrating because you don't ask for it. It lands
on your doorstep, and the kind of people who do
this are surrounded by a whole support network of the
kind of people who are going to criticize you for
(13:16):
that person's behavior. Michael, and there doesn't seem to be
a way to stop it anytime soon. If you like
the Michael Berry Show and podcast, please tell one friend,
and if you're so inclined, write a nice review of
our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions, and interest in being a
corporate sponsor and partner can be communicated directly to the
(13:40):
show at our email address, Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com,
or simply by clicking on our website, Michael Berryshow dot com.
The Michael Berry Show and Podcast is produced by Ramon Roeblis,
the King of Ding. Executive producer is Nakanishi. Jim Mudd
(14:06):
is the creative director. Voices Jingles, Tomfoolery and Shenanigans are
provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.
Emily Bull is our assistant listener and superfan. Contributions are
appreciated and often incorporated into our production. Where possible, we
(14:29):
give credit, where not, we take all the credit for ourselves.
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,
be a simple man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and
God bless America. Finally, if you know a veteran suffering
from PTSD, call Camp Hope at eight seven seven seven
(14:53):
one seven PTSD and a combat veteran will answer the
phone to provide free you counseling,
The Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Last week we had a couple of segments where I
asked a question, if you ended up in jail, how'd
you end up there? What befell you? What stupid thing
did you do? What ill advised? What drug or alcohol
(00:24):
induced courage did you have? What bad decision did you make?
What miscalculation did you suffer? And after the segment and
after the show, I got an email from a fellow
(00:45):
who wrote, I only listened to the podcast, so I
heard the jailbird stuff a little late to the dance.
If you want the details, please ring me up. Should
tell you that the subject line was high I shot somebody.
So his name is Andrew McNulty. And there was a
(01:07):
link to a story headline from KGW eight. Suspect in
Northeast Fremont Street shooting appears in court charged with attempted murder.
Officer said the suspect, Andrew McNaulty fifty eight, shot the
victim in the chest and leg last Friday afternoon. Andrew
(01:29):
MacNulty is our guest. Welcome to the program, sir, Hello Michael,
how are you. I'm good so you don't sound how
old are you? Sixty?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Now? Sixty?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
One sixty one. You sound like you're about thirty two.
Tell me, first of all, set the stage. Where was this.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was in my neighborhood, about ten minutes north of
it's south to where I lived. And I was out
for a walk middle of June two years ago, a
great day. It was just kind of oblivious, and this
guy appears out of no and he's a schizophrenic, homeless
dude on crack and meth and he hates white people
and he was threatening to kill to kill white people
(02:08):
in the neighborhood for months. I had no idea about
this though.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Are you white?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I'm totally white too.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It went all over and I get that. Listen a
little spot.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I got a redneck. But that's that's one other thing.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And so and what is what is he?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
He's a schizophrenic on drugs and he's really violent.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What skin color?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh, he's black? Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay? What's his height? Weight?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I only got a glimpse of him for about three seconds.
He's got my height five ten, more muscular, maybe about
two hundred, and you're five ten, maybe one seventy five
these days.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, all right? And so you're out for a walk,
do you have headsets in or are you in any
way distracted? Are you walking and looking at your phone?
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Probably looking at the phone. But it was such a
beautiful day that was just totally oblivious. You know what
summers are like in Portland. It's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I do. Yeah, that's the time to be in Portland. Wow.
It then there's no sun for you know, the entirety
of the winter.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But for if I gad dogs dogs, nose is dark,
wet and cooled.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right right now, you're by yourself. Yeah, and this is
what time of day?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Five fifteen in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, I read a little bit of the story. Somebody
a guy was walking his daughter and a stroller, and
I guess the guy appeared to be approaching you as
if he was going to ask something. So once you
recognize that this guy's coming into your space and making
a beeline to you, what happens from there?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Didn't actually see him make a bee line to me.
That's I heard that report later too, but I did
see the video afterwards. There's a restaurant that don't all
happened right in front of They were closed, but the
video cameras are really good. Quality. It shows this guy
really pissed off and throwing his bag down on the
picnic table in front of the restaurant, and he sheds
(04:12):
one of his shirts and throws that down and then
he bows up like he wants to tear my head off.
And I just looked up at that point and I go, oh,
something's bad, something bad's gonna happen right here.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And what happened.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
He said I'm going to kill you. First, he was
like snarling with his eyes bugged out. I guess cracking
met will do that to you. Then he changes to
looking like Jack Nicholson coming through the door in the
shining with the axe. So the grimace is there and
my eyes just zooming on his face. And that's the
(04:49):
worst thing I could have done, because this guy's a
little tic. Anyway, he says I'm going to kill you,
and I just Drew shot him.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
How close was he to you when you shot him?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, I thought he was like twenty feet away, because
my tunnel vision turns out he was about four or
five feet.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wow. Okay, hold with me, just one. This is Sevester Turner,
the mayor, and a human being.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Bi La Michael Bettyshaw probably a good time to note
that bernaurna dot com our show sponsor who makes the
less lethal launchers, has a big sale every year started
on Friday the twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Today, the twenty seventh is the end of it, close
of business today, and it's fifteen percent off everything on
the site. I over the last few years have bought
quite a few of those and given them. I have
found women to be much more receptive than men. I
think it's a machismo thing. Men think that you want
to kill somebody, but I assure you don't want to
(05:58):
kill somebody if you can help it. You want to
stop the threat, like this threat that Andrew mc nultius
talking about here. I found out during the break that
there was an officer involved shooting this morning. The suspect
has been arrested multiple times. The suspect fired ten rounds
(06:19):
at the officers before they returned fire, and they hit
him twice. Not clear yet what his status is or
if any officers were transported. Apparently not is the first
report I got. One of the officers had only been
on the streets for four days. Welcome to policing, son,
(06:43):
How about that callback to your wife or your mom? Hey, Mom,
how's it going, how's it being a police? Ah, it's fine.
Just be careful out there, baby, it's dangerous. I know
you're going to say it's not, but oh I'm not
going to say that anymore. I got shot at today
hardened criminal. Andrew McNulty is our guest. He was a
(07:04):
listener who emailed in and in Portland. A guy charged
him and you shot him from four feet away with
what what were you carrying at?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A little clock? Three fifty seven sig? Thirty three glock?
What thirty three? Three fifty seven sig?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay? And okay, hold on, I'm having audio problems. This
is not your fault. I'm hearing you say a sig
and I'm hearing you say a glock. What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's a glock? Three fifty seven sig?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh? Sick? Oh okay, I'm not familiar with that terminology. Okay,
I know glock's long trigger pull. So where did you
have the gun secreted?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's on my left hip. I'm right handed, okay, so
cross straw okay.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he couldn't see that you weren't open carrying.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, no, no, no, it's Portland. I would jumped.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well no, I figured, I'm just I'm trying to figure
the story out.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Here, all right, So sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You've got it talked. What in your waistband?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, it's actually my gut's a little bit too big
for it to be in there, so it's over to
the side outside of my belt, okay, on my hip.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And as he starts charging, you reach across and draw
and pull out and are you just is it up
against your belly? Had described for me the shot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Put my hand on my waist and so there's nothing
between me and my body but the gun. As far
as charging at me, he disappeared had tunnel vision at
the time, so I assumed he was charging. The video
just shows him moving and I drew really quickly, so
it all happened within about three seconds. But things get
(08:53):
really weird when somebody tries to well they said they're
going to murder you, and then they move.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Sure. Well, you know, I've heard all sorts of different
numbers as to how fast someone is moving in the
distance they are away. But we're never as quick to
get to our weapon, aim and fire, or get to
our weapon and fire as we think, and people close
ground a lot faster than they.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Think, so, you're just reacting.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, so and so did that drop him?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He kept going and I don't even remember the second shot,
but I got him in the hand that time. According
to his father, he had got him four inches below
the heart with the first shot. But he was running.
He ran a little bit, maybe twenty twenty five feet
until down. I couldn't see him because I was just
focused on this little patch of bricks in the wall
(09:51):
at the restaurant because I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Really, So you fired two rounds? Yeah, So he stopped
charging and at that point staggers away twenty year twenty
five feet and then drops and what do you do?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then try to get my head together. I put my
gun away because I figure, you're in Portland, Oregon. You're
going to freak people out. And I walked a little
bit further in the direction I was going to in
the first place, because I saw a couple of people
out in front of a restaurant and I asked them
to call the police, and Beefs showed up. I flagged
him down and had about seven pistols pointing out my chest,
(10:34):
which is pretty weird.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And so they booked you. They cuffed you, stuffed, you
took you down and booked you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah. And if you're arrested on a Friday at five thirty,
you're not getting out until Monday at five thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, okay, So then what happened?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Judge less me out says you got to put away
all of your gun and AMMO and reports of the
beach trial Pearl person. I'm not sure about the terms
because I don't get arrested usually, and they set me
up and a friends said, look, I heard about what
happened to you. You called my lawyers and I just
let the ball in their hands because I don't know
(11:19):
what the hell I'm doing. What do you do? End
of the day, I'm retired if I have been for
about fifteen years, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And so then are you arraigned? Are you indicted? What happens?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah? I went to before they let me out, the
judge told me, you know, reports of the pro pro person.
And after about three or four weeks, my lawyers said,
let's go to court. We're gonna plead, just don't say anything,
let me do the talking, which was fine, and dude's
(11:58):
father showed up and he called me a racist. So
it's stunk because I couldn't open my mouth and say
anything about it, which kind of pissed me off. Frankly. Anyway,
at the end of the day, it dragged out for
about two years, and my homeowners insurance company paid this
dude three hundred thousand dollars. I had to pay him
(12:19):
two and a quarter about two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars, and I spent about one hundred and thirteen
thousand and legal fees. So I think it may be
the burner would have been a good deal.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, you think wow, that is uh, that is disturbing.
It's thank you, Andrew. I'm glad this is over and
you've been able to move beyond it. Every single American
in the course of our lives is going to come
(12:52):
in contact with some nonsense like this, and it is
It's frustrating because you don't ask for it. It lands
on your doorstep, and the kind of people who do
this are surrounded by a whole support network of the
kind of people who are going to criticize you for
(13:16):
that person's behavior. Michael, and there doesn't seem to be
a way to stop it anytime soon. If you like
the Michael Berry Show and podcast, please tell one friend,
and if you're so inclined, write a nice review of
our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions, and interest in being a
corporate sponsor and partner can be communicated directly to the
(13:40):
show at our email address, Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com,
or simply by clicking on our website, Michael Berryshow dot com.
The Michael Berry Show and Podcast is produced by Ramon Roeblis,
the King of Ding. Executive producer is Nakanishi. Jim Mudd
(14:06):
is the creative director. Voices Jingles, Tomfoolery and Shenanigans are
provided by Chance McLean. Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.
Emily Bull is our assistant listener and superfan. Contributions are
appreciated and often incorporated into our production. Where possible, we
(14:29):
give credit, where not, we take all the credit for ourselves.
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,
be a simple man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and
God bless America. Finally, if you know a veteran suffering
from PTSD, call Camp Hope at eight seven seven seven
(14:53):
one seven PTSD and a combat veteran will answer the
phone to provide free you counseling,
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