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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The first American television drama was The Queen's Messenger, a
filmed play that was broadcast to like sets with three
inch screens. Three inch screens.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And do you remember when you would see kidding, I mean,
this doesn't go back that far, but even like when
people started to get televisions in their houses that they
were rich. Oh yeah, no, but it would be a
little tindy screen and everybody'd be huddled around it on
the floor.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now, excuse me, people didn't have these little three inch screens.
So they were set up in and around Schenectady, New York,
like in public places, yes, place throughout. So the first
American television drama, The Queen's Messenger, was broadcast to sets
with three inch screens that had been placed throughout the

(00:50):
city of Schenectady, New York, nineteen twenty eight. The first
continuing American TV sitcom was the Dumont Networks Mary Kay
and Johnny in nineteen forty seven. That same year also

(01:11):
brought the earliest show's geared to children, Howdy Duty, which
was the puppet show I don't know what this show is,
Cucla fran and Ali, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I've never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I remember that. I remember didn't watch No, I didn't
watch it, but I've already selped it. But didn't it
continue on into like the seventies?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Never heard of it. I've never heard of Cucla, Cucla,
fran and Ali. So they went through and have chosen
one show from each decade to help tell the story
of how the medium television has evolved, from the Queen's

(01:57):
Messenger to the Queen's Gambit.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Wow, okay, so from each.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
There you are.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
From each decade, they picked one show, doesn't matter the genre.
They picked one show to show how the medium has
evolved over time. Now, I will tell you this. You
got to think TV shows, when they're being made, are

(02:27):
also being made to reflect the times.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, and that's where I thought this was going. But
then you said, this is to show how the medium's
evolved a little bit. Yes, I thought it was going
to be what's most symbolic of the decade.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It is, but that kind of shows how the medium evolved.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So like special effects, you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Talking no, no, no, no no. What show from each
decade tells the story of that decade the best?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Okay, maybe that's a better way of saying it.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
This fun.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Let's start. Remember in nineteen forty seven, Howdy Duty and
Kukla Fran and Ali came out.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
So let's get we already know nineteen forties.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, Let's start with the nineteen fifties, Diane, which show which.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I wish this was like Jeopardy and we could have
picked the decade we started, like, let's start with nineteen nineties.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You want to start the No, nineteen fifties, come, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I will tell you this.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
There aren't as many choices in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Right well, right, wait, hold on, I'm just looking. We
know it, we know it, we know it. We know it,
we know it, we know it, we know it, we
know it.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Okay, that would be insane if we didn't know one
of these picks.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I didn't know Kukla Fran and All.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
That wasn't representative, that was just a timetable.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, No, But all I'm saying is I never
heard of that show.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Listen, There's probably a lot of shows in the nineteen
fifties that I'd never heard of.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right, nineteen fifties Diane.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The only one that comes to mind. Movie like the
twilight Zone.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Now, I like how you're thinking.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But no, okay, can I but.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
But can I? Can I give Diane an asterist? Can
I give Diane an asterist? Okay? I don't know why
there's a t on the end that word for you?
It's okay, but oh you guys spell it differently. The
Twilight Zone was the one that they gave you for
the sixties.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh so you were you were early?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, Wow, okay, well that counts. Yeah, first guesses on
the list.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, well it is, but it's not. That's why I
had to give her an asterisk.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Now I'm feeling more confident.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Here's what they say, Rod Serlings Sci Fi Anthology was
never a huge hit in its original run, but few
shows have a longer after life nor left a deeper
impact on viewers still tell you exactly. So viewers can
still tell you exactly how old they were the first
time they saw the episode with Burgess Meredith as the

(04:59):
bookworm who survives a nuclear war and is about to
enjoy some uninterrupted reading time when his eyeglasses break. Now,
I have no idea what that is. I've never seen
that at all, but apparently that is a defining moment.
But the Twilight Zone was when you had all this
mystery surrounding that was going on in the world. And

(05:21):
it's okay, if the space exploration, if.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
These shows to extend beyond the decade.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well listen, they'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
The Twilight Zone debuted in nineteen fifty nine, okay, but
it ran through the mid sixties, so it is the
defining show of the sixties.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So sixties are gone?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Very good?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh wait, line one, Hi Elli in the morning. Hey,
good morning this me? Yeah, who's this is this? Kim? Hey?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
How much?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm getting ready to get into work here?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I got to get through a guard checkpoint here.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
But hey, I want to say, that's the defining medium
of the seventies.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's got to be Sesame Street Man of the seventies.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, yeah, no, no, don't think no.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, I'm telling you it's not all right, very good, loud.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, he's going through a checkpoint and they're checking his ears.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, Sesame Street not on the list.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Are he jumping to the seventies?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Or I thought you were going I thought we were
going to the.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, I thought we were starting at the fifties. And
Diane gave me sixties.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
All right, I have two guesses.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Can I can I say something real quick.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
But I want to see if Diane can go back
to back.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
No, because I want to say something real quick.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I know people can hear eating going on right now,
and it ain't me.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Not me, Candy Bacon's delicious.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Wait, so who's going? Who's going?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I wanted Diane to go while she was chewing. Well,
but she can still go. He's got the floor.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm now I feel like I'm thinking of kids shows.
Captain Kangaroo.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, okay, no, don't think kid shows, all right, don't
think kid shows. I also don't know when Captain Kangaroo started. Also,
fifties not a defining not a defining Well, how did
you know fifties?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Did you look it up?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I looked up the start date of Captain Kangaroo.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, don't cheat. I don't want you to cheat. I
don't want you to cheat. Captain Kangaroo. I wouldn't say,
is a defining show?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Is it going to be like Meet the Press or something?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
No, tynne, come on, come on the wait? What is
what was what was Bob Keishan?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Wasn't that Captain Kangaroo with mister Green Jeans or something.
All right?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Tyler Go died in two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Who he lived at two thousand and four?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
He was only seventy six?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh never mind, he just looked old.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
He's one of those guys who was like thirty and
they were like, oh no, that guy's sixty five.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
How many if that mustache could talk though? How many
rides did he give on that thing?

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Okay, back they our guesses? Yes please, I'm going to say,
either can I can? I give two?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Sure? Either leave it to Beaver or I love Lucy?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh that's good?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Which one?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Both?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Leave it to Beaver?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Is not on the list the defining show of the
nineteen fifties.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I love Lucy?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh good?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
What does it say about it?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It is the most influential show, they say, it is
the most influential show in TV history. I don't know
about that, well, they say, and it's not even close.
Almost everything we think about television comedy, and most of
what we know about television as a medium came from

(08:48):
Lucy and Rickey's apartment in New York. That may be overstated.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Ah, but to think it was so ahead of its times.
Now they were Obviously.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
All of these shows are ahead of their time.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
There were more in the show that seemed dated, right,
But in terms of the production of the show, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
But to say it's the most influential show of TV history,
maybe in the industry, but there's definitely been better television.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Shows, better in your in everybody's opinion.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean, Lucy will always be a classic.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I didn't say it that it sucks.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I would argue one of the one of the greatest
television shows ever.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Doesn't even make this list.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
But when I Love Lucy is on, everyone enjoys it. Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't even watch it even when you you.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
No, I mean I've seen I love Lucy.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, Lucy, I'm a hot.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's DESI ar naz all right, who wants to get
into the seventies?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I have a guess?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
But oh, can I go to line four? They have
a guest for the seventies, Hi, Elliot in the morning.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Elliott, Hey, it's Mark and Long Island.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'm doing great. Thank you. You're guessing the seventies mash
great guess not that's not the one they went with
from the seventies really. Yeah, And I understand where you're
coming from. You got you got some conflict going on
in the world, Vietnam, Yes, also a lot of them,
A lot of wars, big wars, wow.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Mass No.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, I'm just saying there's wars going on. There's wars
going on. There's wars going on.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I have a guess for the seventies.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Let me see if somebody else does. Let me see
if somebody else does. Oh, I don't oh mine six?
Hi Elliott in the morning, Hi, good morning. Yes for
the seventies, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I would say I dream a Janie.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Great guess, great guess, Larry Hagman, I can't remember Diane
Eden eating Barbarie.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
You couldn't give her you could.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You have to be careful with her name the no
Eden anyway, it doesn't matter, Okay, I guess I was
careful eating no No. But I'd like a space exploration astronauts.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I see where you're going.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Genis the okay?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Very good?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Not not it? Not it? Not it? Who wanted?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Who wanted to guess the seventies?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
We both have guests. Does Kristin have any input on this?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Do you think christ knows?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
TV? From the seventies, Can she guess when we get
to the eighties? Yes, okay, yes, all right on three.
I want you both to say your guests. Okay, now
I'll say three, then go not on three? You ready? One? Two?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Three in the Family.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
WHOA lot going on there?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You went with Mary Tyler Moore show, Thank you? And
you went with All in the Family? Is correct? All?
You know what?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I accept that.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
So it's not the answer, but that's a good guess.
What was your first guest? Oh, Mary Tyler Moore show?
Yes to counteract viewer angst about all the dark topics
covered in the news about Vietnam assassinations and more. Television
started to lean into pure escapism for the mid to
late sixties. With the new decade, though, America was ready

(12:22):
for shows that better reflected the world they were living
in and or ones that dealt with difficult aspects of
our country's past and present. The best and most popular
of these was Norman Lear's Generation Gap sitcom All in
the Family. I get that. That's good? All right?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Eighties?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Here we go, hold on, hold on, I gotta see,
I gotta see Line five. Hi Ellie in the morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Elliott's Jerry from Malburn, Alabama.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Hey, how are things in Auburn today?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Pretty good, sir?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Warmth compared to you all?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's all right, am, it's what what.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Is warm with Laverne and Shirley? It's beIN off of
Happy Days?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Of course it was.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Wasn't Lavernon Shirley like in the nineties?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Eight No, eighties?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Early eighties?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Right? The early eighties? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Oh no, that's not right.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I wouldn't even seventies, early eighties.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I wouldn't even know which decade good show. But
that's not that you're gonna tell me that was the
best show of a decade. Come on, man, I thought
that it wasn't even as good as Happy Days.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't you all guessed?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Happy Day?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Happy Days is a good guest that's split decades awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah. I also I was gonna a thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Uh are you doing?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Who's this?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Diane t.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Tescadero, thank you?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Happy Days with seventy four to eighty four?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Was it? Really? But so that would be a show
from the seventies, Yeah it should be, but yeah, I
don't know that didn't make it. That was also Diane
the Bacon ran through this.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Kristen, have a guess for the eighties?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh you want to guess, Kristen, you.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Want to guess the national anthem before the TV would
go off?

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Okay, so I put a list down before you said
the eighties, because then I had brain park Right, But
where is like the Beverly Hillbillies, any Griffith show and Bewitched.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Bewitched would be seventies, but I think Andy Griffith. And
what's the other one?

Speaker 3 (14:27):
You said Hillbilly's the sixties?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Sixties?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, the Beverly Hillbillies, you remember that, I know the song.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I've never seen an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
The Remember we are picking the most representative of the decade. Yeah,
not the best shows from the decade.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, right, which that is not what was the other one?
Bewitch was good, but I don't know what. I don't
know that seventies, right, I don't know, like there was
a black and white era, remember, like you know what
was funny? All the Darren's in real life were named Dick,
Dick Sargeant and something York Dick Yorke very good Diane, No,
but that's not it.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
And Doctor Bombay, the.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Which was sixty four to seventy two?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Really?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I would have guessed more seventies also, all right, come on, come.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
On, okay, I only thought of one for the eighties
hit me the Golden Girls.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yes, the Golden Girls.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Right, that is incorrect.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
What I like?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I guess though it is a good guests I thought of.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think that the reason you like it is because
it it's it is.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's nostalgic, but in a campy way.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
I also wrote one more down because it's Jones's favorite show, one.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Of the favorites show.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Oh ww e, No, Three's Company. Oh dear God, No,
that's not it?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Eighties?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
The no seventies, seventies, h I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
The Eager Beaver seventy seven to eighty four, The Regal Beagle,
Jesus Christ Barbara?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
All right, who has a guest for the eighties?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Why don't we go on three again?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay? Are you ready? Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
This has you ready? One? Two, three, Miami Advice Okay,
whoa Miami Vice?

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Which, by the way, that was.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
My second guess. I pivoted at the last second it
Cheers or first guest.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Now, Miami vice was a answer on Jeopardy last night,
and you went with Cheers. Now, can I say something
about Cheers real quick? Cheers, By the.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Way, both of you were wrong. Both of you were wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Cheers was the show that I was talking about when
I said, maybe one of the greatest shows on television
doesn't make the list, and that's Cheers.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Cheers was so well written, so.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well smack dab in this decade.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's not it. That's not it.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay with my other guests, Yeah, what was it? Family Ties?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
No, but I like, I like where you're going there.
I like where you're going there where you had the
very a lot of family shows.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Liberal parents. Yes, and then Alex P. Keaton was this
young Republican.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Keep going, keep going, now expand that out cosby, Yes.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Thank you, that's the answer. That's the answer.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So we're just keeping it with the art and not
worried about the life.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
They do say it has a very difficult Uh what no, no, no,
but no. But but at the time, like at the
time you didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Know he was a rapist? No, that that show.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean, think how many people are like Felix was
that his name Felix, mister Hudstable. Cliff Hudstable was the
I didn't watch I knew back then, I didn't even
watch it. The No, Cliff Hudstable was America's dad.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Mhm.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
They were the American ideal, well to do, wise, funny,
enrmally enormously likable. It also helped redefine both how television
portrayed black people and how white all audiences viewed them.
TV during the President Reagan era, Mommy offered plenty of

(18:08):
portraits of extremely wealthy families Dallas Dynasty, but what none
was better or more charming.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Than The Cosby Show.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I guess if that's good, that's good. The decade. Yeah, no,
it's led over into the nineties two. But if we
stick to that time.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well yet, I'm not judging the Cosby Show based on.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
What he did afterwards, like DESI wasn't a great guy either.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
The no, not at all, Lucie.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Nineties simple No, I think it's too easy, So I
think it's going to be a curveball. But now, are
you telling us don't think it's gonna be kind of
an out of bounds pick.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'm not telling you anything one two?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I could
do I can tell you what other people are guessing.
Oh I didn't even come up with my own guests yet.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Ready, yeah, wait for which which?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Which?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Nineties?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Go ahead, Roseanne Negative? Married with Children?

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Was that nineties?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Late eighties?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It's not part of the boom from Fox right.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
In Living pol the Simpsons.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, that's not it. Oh, good, guess that it is.
That's a great guest, Diane, that is a great guest.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So is it going to be the obvious?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Say again? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Is this must see TV?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh? One?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Two?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Three?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Friends, Felinefeld. I wanted to say friends. I thought it'd
be Seinfelds Sinefeld. Their explanation for it is great.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Mhmm.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Let's show about nothing.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
In a decade that gave you nothing. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
It's great. And they even talk about for a decade
that really gave you nothing, like when you look back, Yeah,
when you look back and go, yeah, the decade didn't
really give us anything.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
The show started as a disaster, that's true.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Remember the only reason NBC kept it on was they
were afraid that Jerry was gonna go host a late
night talk show. So they were like, just give him
a stupid show.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Two thousands. I got it?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Wait, got Wait you think you have the two thousands?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Think so?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I am gonna bet you one hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now you don't not bet one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, I will bet you twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, not even twenty.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh come on, you know what, since you have the
last bag in front of you, I'll bet you candy
bacon Oa.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Do people have guests for the two thousands?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes, I see breaking bad?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Is that it? No?

Speaker 5 (20:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Isn't that more th like twenty tens.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Their first part of the pilot was two thousand and eight,
So yeah, I guess it would have gotten just okay,
I'm just taking what's coming in as we go.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Bad guess I go to line eight, Hi, Jelly in
the morning. Hey ma, Yes, the two thousands, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, the two thousands.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was still stuck on the eighties. But the Wonder Years.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
That was a good show. Red Savage, Fred Savage and
who was Savage? What was her name?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
What was her name?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Winnie?

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Winnie, Winnie exactly exactly. Kevin, yeah, maician actually yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Big mathematician. You're right, all right, very good, thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm also seeing the West Wing.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I'm saying, oh that great, great showing the Wire that,
you know what, good.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Show, But I wouldn't say it defined the decade.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's you're gonna say a good show. But I didn't
watch it.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh I didn't. Oh, I've only seen like two or
three episodes of the Wire. In full transparency, I am
now eating.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
No kidding Westian's guest.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Survivor.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
No, is reality a part of this list?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
That Survivor's not the answer? No, No, I thought that
was a good guest.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I also, when did Survivor start? I don't think it
started in two thousand.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, we hadn't been on the air that long.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No, because remember we had people living in the in
the band Survivor. Yeah exactly, but that was May two thousand.
Oh so it did actually pretty early in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
No, Tyler, Now you've got me thinking it's going to
be a reality. But what would it be bigger than
Survivor in two thousand? Idle, good guess, good guess? No,
it's reality.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Oh, why did you leave me down that road?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
I said, you said, there there's reality in here here Okay, yeah,
but I'm not not in not two thousand?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
How about the Sopranos?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Did you look that up?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Now that's the way to God. I had two written down.
I had Sopranos and Survivor.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, that's it, Sopranos.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Are you good? Show? Seen one episode? In the half
century before this drama about a mob boss in suburban
New Jersey, television had operated by a variety of unwritten rules,
like your main character can have rough edges but ultimately
has to be a good guy. And the audience just
wants to relax, they don't want to be challenged.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
And Sopranos changed all of that.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
That's good. I like that one. I like that one.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Twenty tens.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Twenty tens, no one will get now I'm bad?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, what'd you say?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Can the person reuse breaking bath?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
The Actually, you know what, I'm going to tell you
something Breaking bad is going to get mentioned later.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
How well, I'll tell you what I get better call
Saul the Uh no, oh, nobody will guess the twenty tens.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Nobody will guess the twenty tens.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Okay, so we've heard of all the shows.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, but you won't guess it.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I gotta guess I do too.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Do you realize now?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I think now, I now I know what the reality
is going.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
To be one, two, three, Oh my god. First of all,
but no.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
We just switched bodies. It's not a Housewives.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
No, no, that doesn't define a generally a bachelor. Okay,
that's actually better than the Housewives. Bachelor, I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
But no bachelor has an aged well Housewives continues true
to dominate.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I will tell you this. I know the show, but
I've never seen an episode of it. People love it, apparently,
I've never seen an episode of it. I know it
does well. I know he's a really nice guy.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh, mad men, it's reality, Diane. Oh, you'd said, yeah, yeah,
this is reality misunderstood.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
That's okay. And Jeff Probst is a nice guy. It's
not amazing race.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
That would have been a good guess.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, it would have been a great guess. But I've
never I've never seen an episode of this show.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Is it still on?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Sure? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
It didn't sound common.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Because I don't know, huh.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It does? Say? Let me read the beginning without giving
anything away. The phenomenon of the two thousands was the
explosion of reality reality TV and series like Survivor, American Idol,
and The Real Housewives Thank You. Among the most enduring
of these is the one that they say defines the decade.

(26:04):
I'm going to great show, A great show. I'm going
to disagree with it. I mostly because I've never seen it.
But I don't think it's bigger than Survivor, which is
aged well. I don't think it's bigger than Idle, which
has not aged well. It's not bigger than the Voice,

(26:27):
also not from then. I wouldn't have guessed this, and
I wouldn't say it's up there. But I've never seen
I have literally never seen an episode. Although again, the
guy is supposed to be very nice from somebody I
know who knows him.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
There's no way, there's no way I'm right. But now,
because you keep saying how nice the guy is, I
think it's going to be Michael Sorrentino.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh the sitch.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
It's going to be Jersey Shore.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, it's not Jersey Shore. It's not Jersey Shore.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Come on, come on?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Is it competitive reality or documentary style?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I think it's competitive.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
You don't even know.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I've never seen an episode. I think there is a winner. Yeah,
because I think they win the season, win this season.
It's well, that's every competitive show. That's how Richard Hatch won.
Come on, Come on, Top Chef, the no good guess

(27:32):
though didn't age well what yah? Still? So is idle?
That mean?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
It?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Age well?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Garbage that you've met Tom click you and like him?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I do. I like him a lot. I've never I've
never met this guy. I have a buddy who knows him,
says he's great.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It sounds like this buddy's really good friends with him.
They work together, work together in radio.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
All I can think of is uh, who worked with
Whoopee Cubbyby?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yeah, the same guy?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh it is?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I don't know who else he worked with?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh drag Race?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, RuPaul's drag Race from the twenty tens. I've never
seen an episode of it. Cobby says, Rue is awesome.
Rue that probably that's a little familiar. That's a he
probably he may hate that for all I know, I
have no idea. RuPaul's Drag Race, whose early seasons were
part of a decade that saw television becoming more inclusive

(28:29):
to people.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Of not only sexual preference but also race.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
That's good trying to see if anybody guess that.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I don't think anybody would.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh Shawan did guess? Jersey sure? Oh I don't say.
And with moneque exchange on the traders of this new
episode tonight, we should have come with that would.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Have never crossed my mind. So I go to line eight.
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Hi Ellie at the morning, Hello Bike? But yeah, what
do you got?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Hey? Well, you know I was gonna say walking dead
and lost and another emission that I didn't hear it
was real world. Real world didn't make it. And by
the way, Lost, I thought the same thing.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Lost.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Lost was such a phenomenon. It's hard to believe that
it didn't make it like that was. And I may
be wrong. Hey, thank you, sir. Was lost, the first
was lost, the first show, now you got to remember
where we are in history, was lost, the first show

(29:38):
to give birth to a podcast dedicated to a TV show. Oh,
I don't know, maybe with success, like maybe somebody did
it before that, but lot lost podcasts were everywhere.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'm looking it up for you, and that's still a
little sluggers the yeah no, well that's okay, dushed and
rolled it up. What was the first TV show podcast.
Then it's giving me all the video podcasts.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Check my vlog.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
But you know what one people actually did say for
the twenty tens that I'm just seeing now, And it
makes a lot of sense because it was the first
as big as streaming has gotten. This was in Netflix's
first like high budget, big production streaming series, and it
definitely got a lot of people to subscribe to Netflix.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Wait do I know the show?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's not right, it was in the twenty tens.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh yeah, but will I know the show?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yes? And it's another situation where you separate the art
from the artist. It's got a cosmy show thing going on.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh wait, what was what was Kevin's spacey show of cars? Cars? Cars?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's a great guest because I think that not only
was the sign of the time, but also how it
the medium.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I literally went from yeah, no, that's good to that.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, that's good, that's good, and again I always tell
you got to separate art from artist, but.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
No, the answer was a drag race, and I went I.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Had to say that when I was screaming from the
rooftops how much I loved R. Kelly.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
So we're down to our final one.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, twenty twenty, twenty twenties, twenty twenties.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I don't even know where to start.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah you do, Yeah you do, Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Is it a TV show? Yes, a newish genre.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Like, like, you know, there were decades where there was
no reality show. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh? No, okay, no, what genres out there that we
haven't covered?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Come on, is this gonna be better? Call Saul the No,
it would come up later.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Breaking bad comes up.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Breaking Bad gets mentioned in the description of why this
show Change is the defining one of the twenty twenties.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Never saw but people loved Succession and never saw it.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Me neither not it.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Does.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Kristen have a guess?

Speaker 4 (32:05):
You have a guess for the twenty twenties.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, it turn is so fun.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I like that nod as if like I have a
guess And by the way, it's gonna be right.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh, I like the confidence.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Well you have to remember, oh here you know.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh. I like how you're thinking.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, it's got to be Tiger King, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
No? No, darn it, no, Kristen, you think Tiger King
finds by the way, everybody was watching it, by the way,
that I'm going to give you that also, can I
just say excuse me that?

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Also? No, but where did Tiger King air?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Netflix?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Again? Part of this is and Tyler kind of tickled
around the side of it with House of Cards with
the great Kevin Spacey.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
About how so it's gonna be a streaming service?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
It changed not not only not only does it define
but it also changed how TV was consumed.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is it ted lassa?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Great show? Though, great show, great show.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Here comes Diane Stranger things bingo that started.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
It's like the twenty.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Six fifteen, twenty sixteen through twenty twenty five. Oh kind
of killed that, but they do give a nod. You
can't tell the story of the twenty first century TV
without talking about streaming in general, and Netflix in particular.

(33:43):
The streaming giant reshaped the way we can. So, by
the way, you know what I think after I watched
I told you I watched an episode of land Man.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Back and watch it.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, Jackie says, I should. Yeah, I don't know when
I'm gonna do it. I got two weeks. Well, I'll
watch the Olympics every day. Ellie just read.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
The streaming giant reshape the way we consume television and
offering easy access to every episode of every season of
many shows, it turned former also rans like Breaking Bad,
into mega hits. In releasing full seasons of its own
shows all at once, it created a culture of binge watching.
It put all viewers on their own schedules, like Game

(34:22):
of Thrones and Walking Dead. In the early twenty tens,
Stranger Things pushed the medium more in the direction of
being a spectacle game of surprise. Yeah, I am too,
I am too.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I never saw it, but that was really good. The
entirety of the twenty tens.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yes, and people loved it, just.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Drooled over.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, yeah, people love that show.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I never saw an episode.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
You would like it. There's boobstes.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, now I'm not all about that. M hm.
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