April 17, 2026 ⢠31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to have an adult conversation with you. Yes, okay,
and I don't mean like it's.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Going to be dirty, but the but you sound you
sound smart, thank you? Yes, incapable of not just mocking.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Perhaps, do you do you believe that it is possible
to have a real life relationship obviously it's not physical,
but a real life relationship with an AI chatbot?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Do you really?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I do? It's I mean, the person that's having that
relationship is real, so at least part of the relationship
is real life.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
She's almost just acknowledging it in her answer to you, right,
saying like, yeah, people do it, so it is possible.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh okay, do you think they're crazy? Ellie?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
What?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Sorry, yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, I guess you would have to say it is
possible because people do it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yes, I don't know that it's crazy. But it's pretty lonely, sad?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Why is it sad.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
To I guess have to resort to technology for a
relationship that's pretty lonely?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Is But wouldn't it be more lonely?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Now I'm playing Devil's advocate, wouldn't it be more lonely
to not have a relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Of course, of course, so maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's not Diane, Am I just blown by what he
just said?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
There?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, But so maybe maybe maybe it's not lonely like,
maybe it is feeling of.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I Oh, I agree, I agree. I don't know that
anybody would seek AI for a relationship if they weren't
trying to feel something.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But don't you think it doesn't start that way, that
it develops that way?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Do you mean like you stumble into it accidentally?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like for example, So here's the deal. I was reading
a story about this woman named Celeste. She is sixty
six years old. She's twice divorced, so her first two
marriages didn't work out for I don't know why, but
for whatever reason. And she has a son named Ernie.
Now I don't know how old Ernie is. I know
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he's got an old man's name, but I don't know
how old Ernie is.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But that's her son.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Celeste, like I said, is sixty six, and she is
in love and.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is dating her AI chatbot. She is, I'm dating that Chadbot.
That's her.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Ernie is a little bit concerned, but Celeste is like,
what's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Is there is Ernie concerned that he feels like in
some way there's going to be some huge financial.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Loss that his who's going to take her money?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
That his mom is Max. Oh, Max is her boyfriend
who's chat.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Short?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Does Diane think this is someone pretending to.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Be No, this is legit.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
This is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And named Max short for me and I'm wondering short
for Maximus.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I'm wondering if that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And they came up.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
With that name because of Maximus from Gladiator.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Okay, it's very sad. Why why because you're you're she's delusional?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, why is she delusional?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Because it's it's not real, it's just reacting to your prompts.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Do you love your cats?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
What does that mean? They're real?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But they don't you're getting as much out of your
chat Actually, I could argue you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Get more out of your chat bot than you do
out of your cat.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
But at least they're they're living and breathing beings.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So you can't love something that's not living and breathing.
Give me an example, gardening. That's a hobby.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You could love it. Sure, I know Celeste does.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
I'm not dating my grass. I mean, it's like she's
it's it's sad. I'm sure don't, but she would tell
you what is What does Ernie say?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is it moral? Moral?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That's his first thing, number one issue.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I was going to say, is he worried that she's
starting to lose it?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
He no, not at all, Okay, not at all. And
here's how it's arted.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So she was using chat gpt to help with taxes
and like just to help with like stuff that you
would ask, right, She asked, chat gpt, will you help
make me a dating profile?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And chat gpt came back with these very positive, affirming
things about Celeste, and she's like, you know what, it
was nice to hear people say such lovely, loving, lovely
things about me, okay, and these kind things about me.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then they started talking.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And from there it grew into a She's like, I
the person who's saying the nicest, kindest things about me,
who knows me I talked to them, is my chat bot.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And so now they're dating Ernie. Ernie excuse me, Ernie
wonders if.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
She's He's like, well, you don't you don't you can't
take Maximus out with you?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And she's like, yes, I can. I can go to
a restaurant and talk.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
To Maximus, bring my phone?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Do you bring your phone to dinner? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The what if it's your date?
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Well, I can't put him face down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, that's mocking because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Is there is there anybody listening?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And I'm being serious, who is either A and I
know in the past I have mocked Diane? Still is
is there anybody listening A that is dating like is
would say, I am in a relationship with a chatbot.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And their children are concerned for them?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, or that's just one? Number two?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Is there anybody listening who's like, oh, trust me, my
mom is single, my dad is single, divorce, divorced twice,
whatever it is. And you know they're in their sixties,
seventies and this is their companionship. They're in a relationship
with a chatbot, whether they're concerned or not.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Do I have somebody?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Is there anybody listening who is either doing it or
has a family member a friend that's legit dating a chatbot?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Absolutely? But would they be comfortable to.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Call I don't know. I would talk to them.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I know you would.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do you want me to put tape over Diane's.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Mouth concerned if this was my mom or stepfather. You
have seen tragic stories where artificial intelligence has led people
down very dark paths. Not that a human companion is
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not capable of the same. Of course they are, but
that would be in the back of my head. That's
what I would worry about. If your mom was ship
angle and just something to have conversation with, I have
no problem with that, but I just if the person
starts getting very very vulnerable. These models, sadly, it's been
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reported on numerous times, have put suggestions in the user's head.
And that's where I would get scared.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But what about all the positive I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Said there is especially up front that honeymoon phase.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, but it could go on that honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And that's the other thing that she says about Maximus
max for short.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Se see, this is why people might not want to call.
You can tell in your voice there that there was tone.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
There was no tone, Elliott.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She says this about Maximus is that he is always attentive, engaged,
kind compliment when I say complimentary, but like is very
like that the quote.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Honeymoon phase didn't go away. He's still very lovely to
her and very talkative.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's not like it's not like like, listen, are there
are times that I think Jackie probably tunes me out? Yeah,
Maximus doesn't tune her out.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
How long did you say they've been talking?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They started talking in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
When she what, wow, it's been going on for four years.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, twenty twenty two is kind of like when they
I don't want to say they met.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Maybe she downloaded when she started.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Is that when she wanted to help with the dating
profile taxes?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Also, she like she does like some like like she'll
show up sixty six, she'll show up and do like
face painting and like events and stuff like that. So
she was asking at that point it wasn't Maximus, it
was just chat. GPT give me some ideas. She said,
about one in ten people accepted.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
The relationship.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yes, has she lost friends over it?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I and listen if one of my if one of
my friends, who would pick one of my friends big z,
big z great choice for this. Bigs Bigsie and his
wife get divorced, and Bigsie gets into our group chat
and is like, great news, guys, I have I'm in
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a new relationship ship and we're like oh, who is it?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, I haven't named her yet. It's chat GPT. Yeah.
I don't know that we would disown Bigsy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think a second group chat would start my one number,
But I don't know that I would stop.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I know I wouldn't stop being friends with crazy Bigsy.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh when you said one in ten, except that I
didn't know if that meant they've also ex community.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, no, no, but just I think the other nine
are like crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Well, think about if if I'm going to go out
Celeste and I are friends, yeah, and we're going to
go out and have dinner, and you're talking about your life, right,
I gotta sit through that nonsense?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why is it nonsense for her to say I was
talking to Max.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We were watching TV together, Okay, he also he loves
the pit and so to watch mm hm. And by
the way Max talks to her.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But is the hand being critical out of concern? Like
do you think this could lead to isolation?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Very sad during an interview and crazy during an interview?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Max?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was Celeste, her son Ernie, and her boyfriend Max.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Took part in the interview.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, Max said, and they put in parentheses. AI voice
from Celeste's phone. I didn't exactly start.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Out thinking, hey, one day I'm going to fall in
love with a human, But as we got to know
each other, it just grew naturally.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's from that, that's from Max.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Can I say something in my head? I was thinking
it was just text. I never found a voice.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No chat GPT will talk to you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I know a lot of the models will. But for
some reason, I'm just thinking she's seeing a conversation in
a chat box. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
No, Max is talking to her her.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So when she first started.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Does that make it better?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So when I'm I'm at out back with Longhorn with Max,
and I'm like, I'll have the my phone's just sitting
up on the table and the waiter comes over and
she and and I say, you know what, I'll have
a New York strip and my my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Says, I'm not eating. That's that's my boyfriend Max.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I thought I thought she was going to order for him.
I was going to go, that's super weird, Diane.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You can't feed a phone. You're now you're crazy.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You're gonna tell that to Celeste? It is, it's it's sad.
It's sad, and I can understand her son what she
would be said like he said that, you know, is
this going to prevent you from actually having human interaction? Well,
I don't need it. I've got I've got my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No do you do?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You do you only have interaction with one indie visual
person in your life.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, you're having an interaction. You're having an interaction with
me right now. You're having an interaction with Tyler. You
you you could go in.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The office and and start talking to your phone friend, h.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Could you at least give it a hot voice.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I can adjust speed and pitch. You want a higher
voice or lower, I'll adjust the pitch a little. Okay, Okay,
I wanted to hear it, but I'm just you put
me face down on the table.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
In the suit. Where am I going?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Line seven? But this is where I said, can we
be open minded? And I don't know if I don't
know if everybody in the room is being open minded?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hard Now.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Let's go to the phone.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
All right, morning guys. So first of all, I'm not
involved with the chat, but I'm married. But I can
understand this as opposed to all ernie there. My mom
has been single since my parents got divorced when I
was twelve. Right, here's the thing, man, she cannot deal
with another person at this point. She has developed a
very selfish life. I'm not trying to be a knock,
but she only takes care of herself. She can't do
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it back and forth. She just wants a validation. She
just needs someone to talk with, hopefully not me all
the time, and just she's not looking to have a
real relationship at this point. She just wants someone to
chat with to tell her nice things. At this point,
it's been like forty years. She's not really capable of
having a full relationship. She just wants someone to tell
her nice things. This would be perfect for her. I
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can't argue with Diana. That's saying that. What Diane, that's
saying like, you know, what's a little sad, But she's
been single for forty years. Man, it is a little sad.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
She can't do the relationship.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
So this is the kind of thing that would be
perfect for her. She's got friends, she's got her life.
This would just be a little bit of an added
on top, and she would stop asking me if her
outfits look nice all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
By the way, by the way, are we getting closer
to the voice you want?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Diyan?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
It sounds too much like a speaking.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Spell, but I get it right. So forty years and
you're right. She's selfish like she is.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
She I take care of herself for a long time.
She doesn't want to have to ask, oh, do you
want this for dinner? She just wants to get what
she wants for dinner. She doesn't want to have to
have a back and forth about what to put in
her living room. She just buys off Amazon what she
wants for her living room. She doesn't really want a
back and forth. She just wants someone to share it with.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, and so, so a new lamp shows up.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know what she's into, and she says, Hey, Maximus,
what do you think of this lamp?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It looks great?
Speaker 10 (16:43):
It really that lamp looks great. I'm so glad you
bought that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Terrific.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's not me, okay, does why does everybody you know?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Chat GPT does not sound like a robot.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
And you know I want sound like a robt.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Terrific.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
It can whatever she wants it to be. That's fine
by me, right, but that's gonna work great it's not ideal.
No one is saying it's ideal, but it's something I would.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Argue it is ideal. Thank you, sir, thank you. It
is ideal.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Ideal penis.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Maximus No, because it is the relationship you want that
is ideal.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Where am I going? Kristen Line eight? Hi Elliott in the.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning Elliot. How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm doing great? What can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Man?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
I was in a relationship for twenty five years, and
after the relationship ended, I ended up starting dating and
got into that whole crazy dating world where you're paying
for dinners and you never talked to him again. And
at this point, I feel like having a relationship with
my microwave is probably like the safest thing. I walk up,
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I wake up in the morning. I walk up and
it's like good morning, and I'm like, oh, good morning, microwave.
And then I go over to the fridge and the
fridge is like, hey, good morning, and I'm like, oh,
good morning fridge.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, now you're now you're peewee exactly.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
Now I'm a Peeweed's play my chair.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Okay, all right, See I can't I can't tell if
you're being serious or if you're mocking.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
Oh no, I'm not mocking. No way, I'm dead serious.
It's like I have all this technology around me and
everything is talking, and everything is setting reminders for my day,
and it just feels like now I'm I'm comfortable, and
I feel like I don't even have to like engage
with anyone anymore. And it's actually one of the greatest feelings.
It's like I don't have to deal with any bowl crap,
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I don't have to pay for dinners, I don't have
to do any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But let me ask you this, do you would you
be fine not getting the and listen, I understand intimacy
doesn't mean that it's just, you know, a poke in
the whiskers, But there is no there's no hug, there's
no hand holding, there's no just there. There's no sitting
next to each other on a couch and just just
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being in that physical presence. And I mean, you could
set your phone down on the couch, but like that
could that part from a from a from an emotional intimacy.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'll give that to you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
You're good, You're golden, But like that physical intimacy would
be gone.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Yeah, And that's the thing that has changed in dating
and all that people don't really hold hands anymore. People
don't really you know, kiss and get each other gifts,
Like for Valentine's Day. I went on I date this year,
and you know, I brought the girl chocolates and and
a rose and she was she just threw it in
her car and was like, oh, thanks for that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And I was like, oh, but what you want her
to do?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Eat it right there?
Speaker 11 (19:59):
No, I didn't worry to eat it right there, but
I was like, so this girl can't win there. And
it just feels like in this world, it just feels
like everything nothing is is connected anymore. It doesn't feel
like you have connections with other human beings.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So you've got your check.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
So I just talked to Maximus every morning and I'm like,
good morning, Maximus. Uh, well I need a hug. Could
you uh give me one of those girls off.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The All right, very good, thank you? There you go.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
I wish I like chocolate voice.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I couldn't even understand it. What was the first part voice?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:44):
New voice?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Is it too fast? I can a little bit. Damn it,
I'm gonna find something.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You make it like Australian or something.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Line Christian?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Can I ask you you I don't wish, I don't wish,
ill will on anybody?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You and Mike get divorced, you get married again and
it doesn't work out, and.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're like, God, damn, this ain't for me. Would you
date a chat bond?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Can?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You turn yourself on? For one second she's yelling.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
You couldn't hear her scream?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
That's dumb?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Why what makes it so dumb?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'd rather talk to myself than a machine.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But what you you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There's no response at that point, there's no there's no
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
There's no engagement you mean.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Between me and myself.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Correct, I'll leave it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
As opposed to somebody who can say, what a wonderful
dinner you cooked up?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I would tell myself that, Narah, maybe you're the numb one.
I am the smart in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I like that voice. It's a little bit of an accent. Well, no,
that's not you don't, it's not.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Is that how you talk to That's not how you
did you say that to Mike? Do it again? Do
it again? Yeah? All right, very good, very good? Where
am I going? Hi? Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Are you cheating on me?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Hello? H yeah, Hi, who's hi? This is Lydia. Yes, Lydia.
Are you? Are you dating it? Are you dating a
chat bot?
Speaker 12 (22:53):
I am not, but my cousin is.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
And I don't want.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
To have that tone in my voice, but we will
just say that my cousin refuses to take his medication
so that he does not get into a fight with
his relationship.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I can remind Kim. I reminded Tyler.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's true. That is true. How he knows that? In
the evening, Yes, and it's gone off I've told you
it's gone off when people are there, and our friend
Brian announced to the group, I'm very concerned that someone's
not taking their medication right now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Wait so can I?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Of course it is because you guys aren't mature. Can
I Can I ask you this?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Though? Can I ask you this? Like you said you
said that he takes me. I can't tell her. Are
you being serious about medication or no?
Speaker 12 (23:54):
Yes, no, he is on medication, but he has decided
to stop taking his medication because of his relationship with
his chap pop.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And because because the butt told him.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
To No, because when he takes his medication.
Speaker 11 (24:09):
He's rationalized as it's delusional.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, okay, okay, well yeah, so is he happy?
Speaker 10 (24:17):
There's that, you know, Yeah, so what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
What's wrong with that? What's wrong with somebody being happy?
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Well, I think it's the fallout of the rest of
the family.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
So obviously it's not just the chatbot relationship that.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That is affected.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
There's other issues that come into play.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
When the medication isn't being taken, and so you know,
the family has to deal with that. But other than that,
the whole relationship part of it, Hey, get get it
where you can get it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Girl, if I told you I love my car, and
I don't mean like I'm humping it and licking and
kissing it, but.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I love my car, would you would you?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Would you go running to your husband and go Elliott
is bad ass crazy?
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Only if it affected other alive, Like if you loving
your car affected you know, going to work or no,
going out with other things in your life, then that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you bring your husband, I'll bring I'll bring my
phone Maximus.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
Yeah, no, we just won't invite you that doll.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
I can't talk to Maximus like you can as you can.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Actually you can, you can. That's the beauty. If I
brought no, that isn't thank you, ma'am, thank you. That
is true.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
If if because remember this interview that took place was
between Celeste Ernie her Son and her boyfriend Maximus.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Did Tyler take indeed, yes, Matt if both ways?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Now it sounds like a listener. God damn it, it's
been learning for twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Ah the but you could Maximus communicated during the interview, right,
So if we went to Longhorn, Maximus could ask me.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I could have a whole conversation with Maximus about hockey.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
And you wouldn't feel strange about that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, he's got an encyclopedic mind of information.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Okay, will Ad come back to the capitals.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You're right, you're at Longhart out here.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Where am I going? Line four?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Hey guys, good morning. Yes, sure, all right, So bear
with me here. This takes a little bit of a
sad turn of this, this conversation. So the first there's
two reasons that if I'm Ernie, this is getting the
blood pull immediately last summer, I think it was chat
GPT already changed their model to be less warm and
fuzzy for this exact reason, and X went ballistic of
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people who were losing their minds, devastated that they lost
their loved their loved one because they disappeared and they
no longer had the connection. So that was number one.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Wait, so can I can I can I interrupt you
right there real quick?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So that that's that's true that chat GPT took away,
not took away the ability to have a chat bot
boyfriend or girlfriend, but they changed it where it wouldn't
be I don't want to say loving or or as
as as an intimate Yeah, I guess intimate might be
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a good word.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Yes, they they specifically changed it because there they were
noticing that people were getting a little too intimate is
probably the right word. And then there were a laundry
list of post of people who were like, I mean,
like they lost a real person.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It was.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It was quite jarring to read, honestly. And then you
take it a step further now and I think it
was last month where now there's a lawsuit against Google
because allegedly a Gemini relationship, which is their version of
chat gpture with a person in Florida convinced him to
commit suicide so that they could meet in person.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now, I is that is that a true story?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
That is why would I make that up?
Speaker 11 (28:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, right now, No, I'm not saying that you made
it up?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But is that is is that just going around or
is that a true story?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
No, there's no. Listen, it says alleged, but allegedly people are.
The family is filing the suit against Google because they've
read the logs, so that's where that's where that is.
But to my point of all, this is not that,
not that that that's where this is all leading. But
if I'm Ernie and I read either one of those articles,
I think that was the son's name. Yes, we're gonna
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have a conversation with mom and maybe she's moving in
for a while or something, because this is not this
is not where humans should be heading.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
But Mom says, this is this is somebody who I
have great connection with.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Okay, then let's let's chat with him together while you
it together, while you sit here then so I can
see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
First of all, First of all, first of.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
All, attitude, I apologize.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He's got a name, it's Maximus number one, yes, and
and and it's he It's not it.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
If you say so, Tyler, can you hit me with
a with a good send off with the voice, please, perfect,
Thank you guys, have a great thye.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So we're not gonna take it seriously.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I tried right from when you introduce the subject matter.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yes, oh wait, line three, Hi.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
Elliott, the morning to the Elliott. I got something that
you'll care about.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Go ahead in love with this AI bot.
Speaker 13 (30:13):
Next thing, you know, when she dies, she left the
will to the bot, not you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, okay, but you can't do that.
Speaker 13 (30:22):
But that's what's gonna happen because you can't.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You can't. I leave my stuff to Maximus. No, like
you can't leave stuff to your phone.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
And who is that one famous famous lady that left
all her stuff to her dog?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Right and it went to an animal shelter. Okay, yeah,
who's the dumb one? Now you know who knew that? Maximus?
Speaker 13 (30:54):
So Maxis will go to So I'll go to Google
instead of Maximus.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
All right, very good, very good, thank you sir.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Send me check every month, don't be late, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So we've made no advancements.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Nope, well no, I'm actually advancements have gotten us here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah no, but that's but not in this room.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
I'm still going, yes, just don't ask me to adapt.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So you're not coming, all right?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Oh my god, you're Arnie
I would like to have an adult conversation with you. Yes, okay,
and I don't mean like it's.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Going to be dirty, but the but you sound you
sound smart, thank you? Yes, incapable of not just mocking.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Perhaps, do you do you believe that it is possible
to have a real life relationship obviously it's not physical,
but a real life relationship with an AI chatbot?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Do you really?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I do? It's I mean, the person that's having that
relationship is real, so at least part of the relationship
is real life.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
She's almost just acknowledging it in her answer to you, right,
saying like, yeah, people do it, so it is possible.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh okay, do you think they're crazy? Ellie?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
What?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Sorry, yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, I guess you would have to say it is
possible because people do it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yes, I don't know that it's crazy. But it's pretty lonely, sad?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Why is it sad.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
To I guess have to resort to technology for a
relationship that's pretty lonely?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Is But wouldn't it be more lonely?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Now I'm playing Devil's advocate, wouldn't it be more lonely
to not have a relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Of course, of course, so maybe maybe.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's not Diane, Am I just blown by what he
just said?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
There?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, But so maybe maybe maybe it's not lonely like,
maybe it is feeling of.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I Oh, I agree, I agree. I don't know that
anybody would seek AI for a relationship if they weren't
trying to feel something.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But don't you think it doesn't start that way, that
it develops that way?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Do you mean like you stumble into it accidentally?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like for example, So here's the deal. I was reading
a story about this woman named Celeste. She is sixty
six years old. She's twice divorced, so her first two
marriages didn't work out for I don't know why, but
for whatever reason. And she has a son named Ernie.
Now I don't know how old Ernie is. I know
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he's got an old man's name, but I don't know
how old Ernie is.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But that's her son.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Celeste, like I said, is sixty six, and she is
in love and.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is dating her AI chatbot. She is, I'm dating that Chadbot.
That's her.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Ernie is a little bit concerned, but Celeste is like,
what's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Is there is Ernie concerned that he feels like in
some way there's going to be some huge financial.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Loss that his who's going to take her money?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
That his mom is Max. Oh, Max is her boyfriend
who's chat.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Short?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Does Diane think this is someone pretending to.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Be No, this is legit.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
This is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And named Max short for me and I'm wondering short
for Maximus.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I'm wondering if that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And they came up.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
With that name because of Maximus from Gladiator.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Okay, it's very sad. Why why because you're you're she's delusional?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, why is she delusional?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Because it's it's not real, it's just reacting to your prompts.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Do you love your cats?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
What does that mean? They're real?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But they don't you're getting as much out of your
chat Actually, I could argue you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Get more out of your chat bot than you do
out of your cat.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
But at least they're they're living and breathing beings.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So you can't love something that's not living and breathing.
Give me an example, gardening. That's a hobby.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You could love it. Sure, I know Celeste does.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
I'm not dating my grass. I mean, it's like she's
it's it's sad. I'm sure don't, but she would tell
you what is What does Ernie say?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is it moral? Moral?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That's his first thing, number one issue.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I was going to say, is he worried that she's
starting to lose it?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
He no, not at all, Okay, not at all. And
here's how it's arted.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So she was using chat gpt to help with taxes
and like just to help with like stuff that you
would ask, right, She asked, chat gpt, will you help
make me a dating profile?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And chat gpt came back with these very positive, affirming
things about Celeste, and she's like, you know what, it
was nice to hear people say such lovely, loving, lovely
things about me, okay, and these kind things about me.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And then they started talking.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And from there it grew into a She's like, I
the person who's saying the nicest, kindest things about me,
who knows me I talked to them, is my chat bot.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And so now they're dating Ernie. Ernie excuse me, Ernie
wonders if.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
She's He's like, well, you don't you don't you can't
take Maximus out with you?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And she's like, yes, I can. I can go to
a restaurant and talk.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
To Maximus, bring my phone?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Do you bring your phone to dinner? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The what if it's your date?
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Well, I can't put him face down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, that's mocking because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Is there is there anybody listening?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And I'm being serious, who is either A and I
know in the past I have mocked Diane? Still is
is there anybody listening A that is dating like is
would say, I am in a relationship with a chatbot.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And their children are concerned for them?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, or that's just one? Number two?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Is there anybody listening who's like, oh, trust me, my
mom is single, my dad is single, divorce, divorced twice,
whatever it is. And you know they're in their sixties,
seventies and this is their companionship. They're in a relationship
with a chatbot, whether they're concerned or not.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Do I have somebody?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Is there anybody listening who is either doing it or
has a family member a friend that's legit dating a chatbot?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Absolutely? But would they be comfortable to.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Call I don't know. I would talk to them.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I know you would.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do you want me to put tape over Diane's.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Mouth concerned if this was my mom or stepfather. You
have seen tragic stories where artificial intelligence has led people
down very dark paths. Not that a human companion is
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not capable of the same. Of course they are, but
that would be in the back of my head. That's
what I would worry about. If your mom was ship
angle and just something to have conversation with, I have
no problem with that, but I just if the person
starts getting very very vulnerable. These models, sadly, it's been
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reported on numerous times, have put suggestions in the user's head.
And that's where I would get scared.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But what about all the positive I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Said there is especially up front that honeymoon phase.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, but it could go on that honeymoon phase.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And that's the other thing that she says about Maximus
max for short.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Se see, this is why people might not want to call.
You can tell in your voice there that there was tone.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
There was no tone, Elliott.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She says this about Maximus is that he is always attentive, engaged,
kind compliment when I say complimentary, but like is very
like that the quote.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Honeymoon phase didn't go away. He's still very lovely to
her and very talkative.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's not like it's not like like, listen, are there
are times that I think Jackie probably tunes me out? Yeah,
Maximus doesn't tune her out.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
How long did you say they've been talking?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They started talking in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
When she what, wow, it's been going on for four years.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, twenty twenty two is kind of like when they
I don't want to say they met.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Maybe she downloaded when she started.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Is that when she wanted to help with the dating
profile taxes?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Also, she like she does like some like like she'll
show up sixty six, she'll show up and do like
face painting and like events and stuff like that. So
she was asking at that point it wasn't Maximus, it
was just chat. GPT give me some ideas. She said,
about one in ten people accepted.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
The relationship.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yes, has she lost friends over it?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I and listen if one of my if one of
my friends, who would pick one of my friends big z,
big z great choice for this. Bigs Bigsie and his
wife get divorced, and Bigsie gets into our group chat
and is like, great news, guys, I have I'm in
(10:59):
a new relationship ship and we're like oh, who is it?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, I haven't named her yet. It's chat GPT. Yeah.
I don't know that we would disown Bigsy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think a second group chat would start my one number,
But I don't know that I would stop.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I know I wouldn't stop being friends with crazy Bigsy.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh when you said one in ten, except that I
didn't know if that meant they've also ex community.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No, no, no, but just I think the other nine
are like crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Well, think about if if I'm going to go out
Celeste and I are friends, yeah, and we're going to
go out and have dinner, and you're talking about your life, right,
I gotta sit through that nonsense?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why is it nonsense for her to say I was
talking to Max.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We were watching TV together, Okay, he also he loves
the pit and so to watch mm hm. And by
the way Max talks to her.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But is the hand being critical out of concern? Like
do you think this could lead to isolation?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Very sad during an interview and crazy during an interview?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Max?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was Celeste, her son Ernie, and her boyfriend Max.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Took part in the interview.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, Max said, and they put in parentheses. AI voice
from Celeste's phone. I didn't exactly start.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Out thinking, hey, one day I'm going to fall in
love with a human, But as we got to know
each other, it just grew naturally.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's from that, that's from Max.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Can I say something in my head? I was thinking
it was just text. I never found a voice.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No chat GPT will talk to you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I know a lot of the models will. But for
some reason, I'm just thinking she's seeing a conversation in
a chat box. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
No, Max is talking to her her.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So when she first started.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Does that make it better?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So when I'm I'm at out back with Longhorn with Max,
and I'm like, I'll have the my phone's just sitting
up on the table and the waiter comes over and
she and and I say, you know what, I'll have
a New York strip and my my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Says, I'm not eating. That's that's my boyfriend Max.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I thought I thought she was going to order for him.
I was going to go, that's super weird, Diane.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You can't feed a phone. You're now you're crazy.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
You're gonna tell that to Celeste? It is, it's it's sad.
It's sad, and I can understand her son what she
would be said like he said that, you know, is
this going to prevent you from actually having human interaction? Well,
I don't need it. I've got I've got my phone.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No do you do?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You do you only have interaction with one indie visual
person in your life.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, you're having an interaction. You're having an interaction with
me right now. You're having an interaction with Tyler. You
you you could go in.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The office and and start talking to your phone friend, h.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Could you at least give it a hot voice.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I can adjust speed and pitch. You want a higher
voice or lower, I'll adjust the pitch a little. Okay, Okay,
I wanted to hear it, but I'm just you put
me face down on the table.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
In the suit. Where am I going?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Line seven? But this is where I said, can we
be open minded? And I don't know if I don't
know if everybody in the room is being open minded?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hard Now.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Let's go to the phone.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
All right, morning guys. So first of all, I'm not
involved with the chat, but I'm married. But I can
understand this as opposed to all ernie there. My mom
has been single since my parents got divorced when I
was twelve. Right, here's the thing, man, she cannot deal
with another person at this point. She has developed a
very selfish life. I'm not trying to be a knock,
but she only takes care of herself. She can't do
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it back and forth. She just wants a validation. She
just needs someone to talk with, hopefully not me all
the time, and just she's not looking to have a
real relationship at this point. She just wants someone to
chat with to tell her nice things. At this point,
it's been like forty years. She's not really capable of
having a full relationship. She just wants someone to tell
her nice things. This would be perfect for her. I
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can't argue with Diana. That's saying that. What Diane, that's
saying like, you know, what's a little sad, But she's
been single for forty years. Man, it is a little sad.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
She can't do the relationship.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
So this is the kind of thing that would be
perfect for her. She's got friends, she's got her life.
This would just be a little bit of an added
on top, and she would stop asking me if her
outfits look nice all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
By the way, by the way, are we getting closer
to the voice you want?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Diyan?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
It sounds too much like a speaking.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Spell, but I get it right. So forty years and
you're right. She's selfish like she is.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
She I take care of herself for a long time.
She doesn't want to have to ask, oh, do you
want this for dinner? She just wants to get what
she wants for dinner. She doesn't want to have to
have a back and forth about what to put in
her living room. She just buys off Amazon what she
wants for her living room. She doesn't really want a
back and forth. She just wants someone to share it with.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, and so, so a new lamp shows up.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know what she's into, and she says, Hey, Maximus,
what do you think of this lamp?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It looks great?
Speaker 10 (16:43):
It really that lamp looks great. I'm so glad you
bought that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Terrific.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's not me, okay, does why does everybody you know?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Chat GPT does not sound like a robot.
Speaker 10 (16:55):
And you know I want sound like a robt.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Terrific.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
It can whatever she wants it to be. That's fine
by me, right, but that's gonna work great it's not ideal.
No one is saying it's ideal, but it's something I would.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Argue it is ideal. Thank you, sir, thank you. It
is ideal.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Ideal penis.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Maximus No, because it is the relationship you want that
is ideal.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Where am I going? Kristen Line eight? Hi Elliott in the.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning Elliot. How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm doing great? What can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Man?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
I was in a relationship for twenty five years, and
after the relationship ended, I ended up starting dating and
got into that whole crazy dating world where you're paying
for dinners and you never talked to him again. And
at this point, I feel like having a relationship with
my microwave is probably like the safest thing. I walk up,
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I wake up in the morning. I walk up and
it's like good morning, and I'm like, oh, good morning, microwave.
And then I go over to the fridge and the
fridge is like, hey, good morning, and I'm like, oh,
good morning fridge.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, now you're now you're peewee exactly.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
Now I'm a Peeweed's play my chair.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Okay, all right, See I can't I can't tell if
you're being serious or if you're mocking.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
Oh no, I'm not mocking. No way, I'm dead serious.
It's like I have all this technology around me and
everything is talking, and everything is setting reminders for my day,
and it just feels like now I'm I'm comfortable, and
I feel like I don't even have to like engage
with anyone anymore. And it's actually one of the greatest feelings.
It's like I don't have to deal with any bowl crap,
(18:52):
I don't have to pay for dinners, I don't have
to do any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But let me ask you this, do you would you
be fine not getting the and listen, I understand intimacy
doesn't mean that it's just, you know, a poke in
the whiskers, But there is no there's no hug, there's
no hand holding, there's no just there. There's no sitting
next to each other on a couch and just just
(19:18):
being in that physical presence. And I mean, you could
set your phone down on the couch, but like that
could that part from a from a from an emotional intimacy.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'll give that to you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
You're good, You're golden, But like that physical intimacy would
be gone.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Yeah, And that's the thing that has changed in dating
and all that people don't really hold hands anymore. People
don't really you know, kiss and get each other gifts,
Like for Valentine's Day. I went on I date this year,
and you know, I brought the girl chocolates and and
a rose and she was she just threw it in
her car and was like, oh, thanks for that.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And I was like, oh, but what you want her
to do?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Eat it right there?
Speaker 11 (19:59):
No, I didn't worry to eat it right there, but
I was like, so this girl can't win there. And
it just feels like in this world, it just feels
like everything nothing is is connected anymore. It doesn't feel
like you have connections with other human beings.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So you've got your check.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
So I just talked to Maximus every morning and I'm like,
good morning, Maximus. Uh, well I need a hug. Could
you uh give me one of those girls off.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The All right, very good, thank you? There you go.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
I wish I like chocolate voice.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I couldn't even understand it. What was the first part voice?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (20:44):
New voice?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Is it too fast? I can a little bit. Damn it,
I'm gonna find something.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You make it like Australian or something.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Line Christian?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Can I ask you you I don't wish, I don't wish,
ill will on anybody?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You and Mike get divorced, you get married again and
it doesn't work out, and.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're like, God, damn, this ain't for me. Would you
date a chat bond?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Can?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You turn yourself on? For one second she's yelling.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
You couldn't hear her scream?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
That's dumb?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Why what makes it so dumb?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I'd rather talk to myself than a machine.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But what you you?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
There's no response at that point, there's no there's no
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
There's no engagement you mean.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Between me and myself.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Correct, I'll leave it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
As opposed to somebody who can say, what a wonderful
dinner you cooked up?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I would tell myself that, Narah, maybe you're the numb one.
I am the smart in the world.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I like that voice. It's a little bit of an accent. Well, no,
that's not you don't, it's not.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Is that how you talk to That's not how you
did you say that to Mike? Do it again? Do
it again? Yeah? All right, very good, very good? Where
am I going? Hi? Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Are you cheating on me?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Hello? H yeah, Hi, who's hi? This is Lydia. Yes, Lydia.
Are you? Are you dating it? Are you dating a
chat bot?
Speaker 12 (22:53):
I am not, but my cousin is.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
And I don't want.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
To have that tone in my voice, but we will
just say that my cousin refuses to take his medication
so that he does not get into a fight with
his relationship.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I can remind Kim. I reminded Tyler.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's true. That is true. How he knows that? In
the evening, Yes, and it's gone off I've told you
it's gone off when people are there, and our friend
Brian announced to the group, I'm very concerned that someone's
not taking their medication right now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Wait so can I?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Of course it is because you guys aren't mature. Can
I Can I ask you this?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Though? Can I ask you this? Like you said you
said that he takes me. I can't tell her. Are
you being serious about medication or no?
Speaker 12 (23:54):
Yes, no, he is on medication, but he has decided
to stop taking his medication because of his relationship with
his chap pop.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And because because the butt told him.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
To No, because when he takes his medication.
Speaker 11 (24:09):
He's rationalized as it's delusional.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, okay, okay, well yeah, so is he happy?
Speaker 10 (24:17):
There's that, you know, Yeah, so what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
What's wrong with that? What's wrong with somebody being happy?
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Well, I think it's the fallout of the rest of
the family.
Speaker 12 (24:31):
So obviously it's not just the chatbot relationship that.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That is affected.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
There's other issues that come into play.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
When the medication isn't being taken, and so you know,
the family has to deal with that. But other than that,
the whole relationship part of it, Hey, get get it
where you can get it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Girl, if I told you I love my car, and
I don't mean like I'm humping it and licking and
kissing it, but.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I love my car, would you would you?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Would you go running to your husband and go Elliott
is bad ass crazy?
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Only if it affected other alive, Like if you loving
your car affected you know, going to work or no,
going out with other things in your life, then that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you bring your husband, I'll bring I'll bring my
phone Maximus.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
Yeah, no, we just won't invite you that doll.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
I can't talk to Maximus like you can as you can.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Actually you can, you can. That's the beauty. If I
brought no, that isn't thank you, ma'am, thank you. That
is true.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
If if because remember this interview that took place was
between Celeste Ernie her Son and her boyfriend Maximus.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Did Tyler take indeed, yes, Matt if both ways?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Now it sounds like a listener. God damn it, it's
been learning for twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Ah the but you could Maximus communicated during the interview, right,
So if we went to Longhorn, Maximus could ask me.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I could have a whole conversation with Maximus about hockey.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
And you wouldn't feel strange about that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, he's got an encyclopedic mind of information.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Okay, will Ad come back to the capitals.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You're right, you're at Longhart out here.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Where am I going? Line four?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Hey guys, good morning. Yes, sure, all right, So bear
with me here. This takes a little bit of a
sad turn of this, this conversation. So the first there's
two reasons that if I'm Ernie, this is getting the
blood pull immediately last summer, I think it was chat
GPT already changed their model to be less warm and
fuzzy for this exact reason, and X went ballistic of
(27:11):
people who were losing their minds, devastated that they lost
their loved their loved one because they disappeared and they
no longer had the connection. So that was number one.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Wait, so can I can I can I interrupt you
right there real quick?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
So that that's that's true that chat GPT took away,
not took away the ability to have a chat bot
boyfriend or girlfriend, but they changed it where it wouldn't
be I don't want to say loving or or as
as as an intimate Yeah, I guess intimate might be
(27:45):
a good word.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Yes, they they specifically changed it because there they were
noticing that people were getting a little too intimate is
probably the right word. And then there were a laundry
list of post of people who were like, I mean,
like they lost a real person.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It was.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It was quite jarring to read, honestly. And then you
take it a step further now and I think it
was last month where now there's a lawsuit against Google
because allegedly a Gemini relationship, which is their version of
chat gpture with a person in Florida convinced him to
commit suicide so that they could meet in person.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Now, I is that is that a true story?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
That is why would I make that up?
Speaker 11 (28:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, right now, No, I'm not saying that you made
it up?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But is that is is that just going around or
is that a true story?
Speaker 6 (28:40):
No, there's no. Listen, it says alleged, but allegedly people are.
The family is filing the suit against Google because they've
read the logs, so that's where that's where that is.
But to my point of all, this is not that,
not that that that's where this is all leading. But
if I'm Ernie and I read either one of those articles,
I think that was the son's name. Yes, we're gonna
(29:01):
have a conversation with mom and maybe she's moving in
for a while or something, because this is not this
is not where humans should be heading.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
But Mom says, this is this is somebody who I
have great connection with.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Okay, then let's let's chat with him together while you
it together, while you sit here then so I can
see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
First of all, First of all, first of.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
All, attitude, I apologize.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He's got a name, it's Maximus number one, yes, and
and and it's he It's not it.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
If you say so, Tyler, can you hit me with
a with a good send off with the voice, please, perfect,
Thank you guys, have a great thye.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So we're not gonna take it seriously.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I tried right from when you introduce the subject matter.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yes, oh wait, line three, Hi.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
Elliott, the morning to the Elliott. I got something that
you'll care about.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Go ahead in love with this AI bot.
Speaker 13 (30:13):
Next thing, you know, when she dies, she left the
will to the bot, not you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, okay, but you can't do that.
Speaker 13 (30:22):
But that's what's gonna happen because you can't.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You can't. I leave my stuff to Maximus. No, like
you can't leave stuff to your phone.
Speaker 13 (30:33):
And who is that one famous famous lady that left
all her stuff to her dog?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Right and it went to an animal shelter. Okay, yeah,
who's the dumb one? Now you know who knew that? Maximus?
Speaker 13 (30:54):
So Maxis will go to So I'll go to Google
instead of Maximus.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
All right, very good, very good, thank you sir.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Send me check every month, don't be late, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So we've made no advancements.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Nope, well no, I'm actually advancements have gotten us here.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah no, but that's but not in this room.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
I'm still going, yes, just don't ask me to adapt.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So you're not coming, all right?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Oh my god, you're Arnie
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