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June 8, 2026 • 22 mins

What have we boycotted? And are we still??

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you think of something where or a situation where
the service, the item, whatever it was, was so bad
that in the moment, in the moment, you completely swore
it off.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'll never go there again. I'll never do this again.
Whatever it is that you swore it off in the moment.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Uh yeah. I went to a restaurant one time and
uh I sat out for like a half hour. I
was on a dat and and the the place isn't
isn't around anymore. But uh we had never really got
a half hour and like the host's status, but no
server anybody came around.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I never want Oh but now did you did you?
Did you?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Did you make a pledge to yourself I'll never go
back here again.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Uh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure in the moment, I
was like, no, we're not doing that again.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Did you stick to it?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Uh yeah, I mean they went out of business shortly after.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, but that you probably would have caved at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Right, I mean I had been to the restaurant before,
but at a different location.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
See that's okay, because I treat that also. No, I
was reading this is where Steak reminds me. Remember I
swore off out back and I got to be honest,
I don't even remember why, and I've never gone back,
but I have gotten curb size.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
That's different the I know, but it really I mean,
I yes, you're still pati exactly exactly exactly, but it's.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, it's left us questioning if you were to ever
declare war or a ban on a restaurant or a
product or a service, whether or not you're actually going
to follow through with it.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Do you believe this number? Ninety five percent of people
break their ban?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I do too too.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It seems high, but when you see that number, you're like,
ninety five percent of people are like, screw that, never
gone back now, they're not going back the next day
and again that eventually yeah right right, even if it's
like several months later, you're still back several months, several years.
It could be a brand. It could be a brand.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I'm pretty good with this.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You are, no, I'll give you credit. You are. You're
part of the five percent.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I feel like you are because I even say, it's
like you're too harsh with it.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Like get over it.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
He tries to encourage me to go back to that
place or use these.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Companies because I feel like you're you you Your ban
threshold is too low.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
But restaurants are so easy because there's a lot of
food options out there. Amen, there's some stuff like when
comes to mind that I thought I would never use again,
and I had to there you go. You got no
choice because there was a It was I was limited
in terms of my options for getting some not forgetting

(03:06):
like I can't remember, but for getting somewhere.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
And that was United Airlines.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
The airlines are bad.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
No, let me repra when people choose a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That will never fly them again.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Remember they bumped me off of the flight from my funeral,
grandfather's funeral, right exactly. And I didn't for a while,
but then something came up and I had to fly
them again.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah. No, No, airlines. Airlines are pretty good.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
People get bumped, People get dicked over, like the airlines
treat you like garbage.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
They know they do.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
But then three weeks later, month later, two months later,
four months later, and you're gonna fly and it's either
two more expensive on every other one. You're like, well
right back I go, or that's pretty soon it could
be six months later.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
You're pushing it back now further, but your first the
time period was like two weeks later.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
As it came out of my mouth, I was like,
who the hell's flying so much?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, even I caught that, but I was gonna let
it go. But yeah, no, or you've got.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Points, right, I've been.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
I'm not me but not gonna forego.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I've been flying United for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And then they dick you over and whatever, and you're like, well,
I'll never fly them again.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Six months later you're like, well, I got all these
points and I want to keep collecting.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I get in the admiral's cloak like whatever it is,
and you you write it off.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
So listen, was I disappointed when I had to start
flying them again? Yes, but because of this job, we're
not very flexible and I had to fly United.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, it's not my faulty, it is.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
How is that it's not like normal people for the
week off Friday?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah no, but I'm saying most people can take off
a Friday to go for a weekend.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Oh well right here my family is going again.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
You essentially have a three day weekend every year, every day.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Every ask my family, who's going to Florida for a
joint graduation party in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
And because they didn't like his I'll be out of
school at this point. They didn't like the fact that
I'm not able to jump on a flight on a
Friday until the afternoon. They told me you don't need
to come, just because they wanted to leave earlier.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I get it, I get it. You just said
you don't get it to the no, but you could
have gone later. It's on them for saying don't come. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
So yes, at times you are backed into a corner.
Not for restaurants, though, I don't buy that. If you've
sworn off a restaurant, it's so easy to get other foods.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I know, I know, But I like out back.
I like the Bushman shrooms, I like their stong.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
That server that I hated probably isn't there anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know, because I won't go in. But I
do get their food delivered too. Yeah, so I'm bad there.
I'm bad there. I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I'm sure. There's a bunch of things I can tell
you one right.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now that I that I've sworn off because I threw
I threw a fit a week ago. What, No, it's
it's probably the It's not the biggest fit I've thrown
since Stomping Chips.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
But it was pretty close.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Okay, Harris Teeter? What what happened there?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
God? Damn? So you want the long story or the shorts?

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Boycott a grocery store?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
No, a cashier?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Oh yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
The no, but I'll tell you long. I'll give you
the the abbreviated long story. Yeah you didn't mention this
the no. Jackie and I are in line right we
went grocery shopping. We're in line and there's somebody who's
halfway through their their their cart, and then in behind
them these people had like four things. So I was like,
jack get in there. So we got in line. Some
manager comes up and says, hey, just so you know,

(06:52):
after the person in front of me with the four
things were shutting the line down, and I was like,
I'm in line, like no, and she was like no,
we have to And I said why and she says, well,
the cashier has to go on break and I.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Said can't you like do it? I'm in line, like
can't you do it? Behind me?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And she was like, they have to use the restroom.
And I was like, and I said to the manager,
I know that's not urine and so.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, but that's not the cashier. That's not the cashier
that I'm mad.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
I said it loud to the manager.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
She had the tish bad. I bet she was nosy.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
So anyway, I says to Jackie, we're going to the
next one. So we get next door. Right, that's the
cashier that I'm avoiding. And here's where I stomped chips.
So Jackie brings the reusable grocery bags, so we give
him the cart. I go down to the end. I'm
going to bag while he doesn't. This guy's throwing stuff

(07:55):
down the thing and I can't keep up because he's
just me and I mean he's fast.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'll give that, but he's throwing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
So I took the two bags that I had set
up and had two things in.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
And I took him.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Here, here comes petty.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I threw him up on the counter where all the
other food was and said.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You bag it and walked away.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Was what was Jackie doing besides recoiling into herself?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, you know what she did. She pulled him off
of there and started bagging it. And I just stood
at the swipe machine and stared at him.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah, good for you.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
No I did. I took the bag way to.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Stand your ground because he's throwing them.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I was like, you're you're a dick, dude, and he's
throwing them at me. So and I know who he is.
I know exactly who he is. I took a mental
photo in my head. I'll wait.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'll wait for that woman to come back from taking
a dump before I go to this guy again. I
hated him, and I even said to Jackie, I know
I overreacted, but I threw both bags right up on
the conveyor belt.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Did he even react to he?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Hear you?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
He shot me a look like you're an a hole,
and I was like, look in a mirror.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Good one.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
And I understand you're going to try to.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Avoid I will avoid him. I will avoid him.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
I might have banned this door.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, no, no, I like that Harris Teeter. It's very close.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
There's plenty of other grocery s, I know.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
But I don't want to drive all the way into
Falls Church and use their Harris Teeter.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Oh you I meant a band all the Harris Teeters.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, no, no, no, it's not all the Harris Teeter.
It's not even this Harris Teeter. And I'm not going
to the Safeway across the street.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Eh?

Speaker 5 (09:38):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I just I don't feel like it's up to park.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh yeah, I also don't like the parking lot the
although Harris Teeters, no the Lee Harrison's no joy.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I'll never use that teller again ever.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Check her yeah, yeah, even if he's the only one.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And I threw my bags right up on them.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
And then I felt like a million on what you're
gonna go just to self checkout?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, which I should have done anyway, But the line
was short until the woman had to go take a dump.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
You should have seen the manager. I was like, oh,
she make it a dump. That's not urine ibs bro
with D.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
But I was like, if it's so urgent, why do
the people with four items.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Make us both leave?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So I was already running a touch hot and then
when that guy started throwing, he was throwing hell of
a dip, like like winging it down the thing.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
I was like, you bag it like Morgan Wallen and
a security guard cell phone Lissen. Morgan Wallen is a
garbage person. But if you're security, you can't be filming
the show.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, you can't. You can't.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
So and I'm not saying I side with Morgan because
he's the worst.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But you knew that was common.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
But yeah, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, now you're you're you're what is that playing with
matches there? Anyway? I won't use that teller again.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Okay, I keep saying teller.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
It's like a chechecker.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, whatever, whatever, it makes it sound better, does.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
It sound better? After I just reminded people of my
story how I was bumped from my grandfather's funeral fight
and you'll teller with some peace items down at conveyor belt.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
But he's not letting me bag.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Maybe you're too slow.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I've told you I know how to bag. Hi
elliot in the morning.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Hey, what's UPO?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Hey, what's going on? Dude?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (11:40):
I've swore off harbor for.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
A tool so many times, so many times. So you
keep returning.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
The prices are too good.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's that's where they get you, is that? Yes?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
And you emotionally you make yourself a promise. Financially, the
wallet ends up talking louder.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
The Jews speak loud in me, Yes, I hear you,
same with me, Same with me, Shalo, Mike.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
So what's happening they're breaking on them?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Say again, oh that yeah, I don't know. Ninety What
did I say? Ninety five percent of the time you go.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Back on your band?

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I wasn't thinking that's ran within bigger box stores. So
we're talking about restaurants, grocery stores, airlines. Is there something
that I won't get that's housed in a store that
sells many different things, like.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
A wal Mart, target type situation.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Any any general merchandise store.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh so you would be at a Target and go
I'm never getting Like.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Have you sworn off some sort of hockey equipment?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
No?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I don't know why you said it like that.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, No, no, No, I mean there's there's certain equipment
I can't use.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like I like like, like there's certain skates that I like, right,
but they don't they don't even make them anymore. If
these skates ever break, I'm done the But no, but
it's not been like.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
You're hearing from your team over the weekend. Yes, you're done.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, No, but it's never been like I've I got
wrong by CCM I'm never using CCM again.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Well, you talk about how expensive the gear is, so
if some areas fails or breaks or wears too quickly,
I could see somebody saying, I'm not paying those prices anymore.
It's just you're paying for the name.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh yeah, maybe, but I can't think of anything. I
can't think of anything like that.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Harbor free that's good.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, that that's a fantastic one. Hi elliot in the morning.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Okay is this Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Did you swear off something?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (13:43):
Yeah, I got two?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
And have you have you? Have you held the ban?

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
All right, go ahead, all right.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Ashley's furniture.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
What they Yeah?

Speaker 7 (14:00):
I had a bad experience. So me and the wife
we ordered a sectional, took forever to come. When it came,
it was the wrong one that we ordered, so we
sent it back, took forever for the right one to come,
and then the people that deliver it scratch up my ceiling,
put a hole into the wall.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
It was it was bad.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, that would piss me off, but you know what
a good deal.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
A couple of years later on something I need, I'd
probably end up right back there.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
What's the second one?

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Second one is a certain subway and a certain Walmart.
Will never go back.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
What happened at that subway? Did they clean the floors?

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Okay, so this is back when my daughter was young
and she's she spit up. We were on the on
the way out of Walmart and there's a subway there.
She spit up some so I asked like, hey, can
I grab a napkin? The guy behind count was like, no,
you need to go buy something. I'll like, I just
need a napkin for my daughter who spit out, And

(15:02):
then they they said no, I'm not going to give
to you. So I grabbed a bunch of nacus and
threw it in the face and walked out.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
So wait, were you banned?

Speaker 8 (15:13):
No?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
I still I actually still shop at that Walmart. But
we'll never.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
By the way, I remember, I remember, thank you sir.
There was a pizza place that that insulted the boys,
and I was like, we'll never go back here next
time we were in New York.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Went right back there and got the pizza.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Sulted.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
No, they yelled at the boys like.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
When they were little young.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, like they weren't doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
But I think one of them tried to reach for
something and they yelled at him, and I was like, look,
f you, man, I'm not coming back here.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Next trip, next trip.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Hey, where do we want to go?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You want that pizza? Let's go. Yeah. I went right
back in, right back in due road.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Friend's father has a phrase he says for restaurants, give
it a good look, insinuating they'll never be back. He's
given the same restaurant a good look many times over l.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Line six. Hi Elliot in the morning, Hey Elliott, Yes, sir.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Hey, So I've got a ban against carnival rids.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Why how they don't sit right with me? Man, I
can't do it.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Wait, so you're you're punishing Carnival r did anything.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Every carnival the okay, Well it's like.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
A preference thing like that's not because they wronged you.
And you said, I'll never do that again.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Well I've been on them, but I had a bad
experience once and I'll never do it again.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah. No, I need I need the instance. I need
the instance.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah, if there's nine of the time, you're going back
like an operator that you knew ran certain carnivals.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Exactly, and you'd have like a screaming match where you
were spinning at each other.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
I bet some people have said, I never go to
an amusement park, a specific amusement park.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Again because the people there were bad, and then they
go back. Yeah, what are you gonna do if you
like amusement parks?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Well, you have a lot of options in this areas,
I'm saying, but you still end up at the one
you said I won't ever step foot in again.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't feel like driving all the way up to
Great Adventure Hersy Parks kind of far.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
You live in Doswell? Yeah, Hi Elliot in the morning. Hi,
this is me, Yeah, Hi, here's this.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Hi.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
This is Anna?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yes, Annah? What can I do for you?

Speaker 8 (17:45):
Elliott? I am a joger and I started jogging probably
fifteen years ago, and I used to use Nike shoes, the.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Jogger, jogger, you said, joger. Well that's okay, You're all right.
I understood. I understood.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
They are the most uncomfortable shoes I ever had. Once
you start wearing other shoes like Stitchers and Brooks, you
will never go back to Nikes.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But here's here's my question, though, is you you it's
not like, it's not like Nike wronged you, right, Like
it wasn't. You just tried another pair of shoes that
fit better. So that's not like Nike was bad to you.
You just found a better preference.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
They are bad to my feet, and that the prices
are the same price the other thing and they were
just bad.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
No, no, listen, I get your point. I get your point.
It's like I I didn't always wear Nexus skates, but
once I started, I was like, these.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Are great, And you said that would make them anymore?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
No, yeah, watching it, thank you, ma'am. And they're talking
about like, oh no, he's only got so many of
these sticks left. Yes, but it's you, so it's not
as important.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, not nearly.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm not going on I'm not going on or ex
and asking people like, hey, who's got a pair of
Nexus skates?

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Could somebody, if they put in the work, could they
find you a pair of those?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Did you look on eBay or something?

Speaker 8 (19:10):
No?

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Oh, so you've done zero research. Yeah, you just know
they're not making I just know.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
They don't make nexuses anymore unless they brought it back.
Diane's looking you looking up Nexus skates.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I'm gonna look on Poshmark. Plenty of them here. How
much the Bower Nexus eight thousand?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, I have to see. I don't know what model
mine is.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Well, these might be kids. Let me find the men's Diane.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm a man, not in shoe size.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Line.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Hi Elliot in the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's that. Hey?

Speaker 8 (19:51):
This is Tina from Alexandria. Yes, I have a band
that I enacted back to the eighties and it's.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Still in effect.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
What did you ban.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
Exon gas?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
The Valdi's oil still happened? I did it too.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Now, I did go back, but I did go for
a period without going to Exon because of the valve,
probably six seven months where I wouldn't go that's true.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I wouldn't go back to Exon because of the Valdi's.
Now I give you credit because the gas station I
use now.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
More than any of them, is an Exon. But I
held that for six or so or cheaper.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Right, Yeah, so you must have a lot of gas
stations near you.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I won't go to BP either because of the oil.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Still, you know what, I remember when that happened, thinking
I'm gonna give them the Exon treatment, and I did,
and then I started getting Harris Theater points there, so
now I go to BP as well. As a matter
of fact, the video I shot last week was at
the BP station.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
You're right, yeah, Now when I when we were all together,
that was like fifteen years ago BP.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, you never publicly declared that.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I said, I thought I was going to give them.
I thought I was going to give them the Exon treatment.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But I never did. I think a lot of things,
but no, I.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Never did because I knew I wouldn't stick to it
because I never Why should I punish them? I didn't
punish Exxon. Wow, that's impressive though, Good for you. That's
a good stick to itiveness forty years.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I bet she's not alone though. I bet that's a
common one.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
For the Exon. I bet I'm the more common version
of that.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, yes, of course, but she's got Even back then,
I was like, you know what I'm gonna be.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm gonna be environmentally conscious.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I can't believe you did that.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Were you dating somebody who was into conservation?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I was dating somebody who said we should do this.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
So it wasn't your idea.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
The no, but it was my. It was my I
did it. It was my willingness to move along. If
you had to guess how long after that we broke up,
what would you say?

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Seven months, give or take right, you started to

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Exce
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