April 28, 2026 ⢠35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are correct. Yes, yes, Have you ever wished that
you weren't?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, I can't say that I have had that thought.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I never have either, Now I never have either. Is
Mike circumcised? He is?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Do you know if he ever wished he wasn't? Do
more people? Do more people?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
She spent enough time thinking back to that conversation where
she asked him second or third date?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No, No, But I think, like, for example, I'm circumcised, right,
But I think that if I wish I wasn't, I
would have said something to Jackie. I don't know that
I would ever go through with like restoration.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like you would have apologized to her.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Why would I apologize?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, why would you have said?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
That's the conversation about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, oh no, no, Like, like Jackie knows I'm circumcised.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Obviously she's seen it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Are you saying so in the face of pleasure?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Why would maybe bring that up to her?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well? Two things?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, no, no, no. The first of all, the tide
has turned changed. Tide has turned that it used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It used to be eighty percent of men were circumcised.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Right, I know that that's changed over the years.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Right dramatically.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now only forty nine percent of men are circumcised, I
know is half, so the majority, the majority are not
circumcised in the United States, not just European has always
been like that, so obviously it's turned. It's turned a
bit where it's not as it's not as commonplace, and
there has been a growing demand. This is how I
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got there. There has been a growing demand of people
who are at least interested in restoration, meaning undoing a circumcision.
The old attached some skin to me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
How many hyphens there is in that?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A lot, a lot of hyphens, But what I was one?
So I was wondering two things. Number one is I
don't even know why the tide turned, but it did,
and that's okay, that's okay, but more and obviously, if
there is a growing interest in restoration, that means that
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people are at least curious or want to learn about
going from circumcised to uncircumcised. But is the same true
going the other way, or there's still people that are
uncircumcised that wish they were circumcised, which I'm assuming is
a much easier surgery.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Not is an adult I would imagine, haven't we heard
that it would be really painful wait.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To get circumcised. Yes, yes, I would assume that that's
very painful. I would also assume.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
They put you out for getting local.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Getting restoration is unbelievably painful.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I'm not as familiar with the restoration process. That's the hardware.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The there's like there's air and pulling and stretching and
air and pulling and stretching.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean there is. The Cleveland Clinic's got a
hold right up on it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Which it's not a how to, by the way.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It says you won't get your old foreskin back, but
you can stretch skin over time to create a new
foreskin or surgically attached skin from another area of your body.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
How many appointments is the stretching one? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And what is that daily regimen?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And can I just stretch it home?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I was gonna say, I may be there already.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
They used to have Do you see anything on there
that are like P tents P tents? We're p tense
penis P tents where it's almost like it's almost like
a little that goes over your the the can I
can I say this word?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How are you to say? The the end or the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Top well, I don't want people to think it's by
my nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, when thinks that, Now.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The other end, the other end, the out end, sure, right, that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There's like almost like a crown that you put on it,
and it's almost.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Got like that's the stretching.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, it's almost got little prongs.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you pull pull the skin up and attach.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It to there and it's not painful.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh I'm sure it's unbelievably painful. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well they just keep they keep talking about how it's
gradual stretching that is happening.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh yeah, And they talk about tape or straps.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Or like yeah, or a tissue expansion device, which sounds
like what you're describing. Yeah, what kind of tape. I
don't have duct tape, Scott not painters. I don't know painters,
though you might want because it's a blue.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Ball stop.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, it's made to protect other parts.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh so I tape it here and I'm protecting.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well you're when you then pull the tape off, that's
painter's tape. Is doesn't here as well as other tape,
so that you don't damage what's around.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Oh that's good. So I'm not pulling. I'm not pulling
any loose skin or hairs.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What percentage? So those that are looking to have the
procedure done later in life where they get circumcised, right,
are the majority of those for religious reasons?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The only thing? No, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
There are some people who just I would bet for
some people, it's obviously for religious. For some people it's
probably esthetic. For some people it may just be I
just I just like, maybe I got because don't like,
you can get dirty.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
In there if you just got you know, like a.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Big hood wearing all the time, so you could get
a little you can get dirty in there. So maybe
you got like a bad infection or something. You're like,
I'm never doing that again. And then there's some people
who like, for example, why would you want restoration? Let's
flip the script. I don't know, but I was reading
about this guy named Daniel Floyd.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Around his fourth birthday.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Imagine how this is this he's circumcised, right, So he
got circumcised as a baby. Around his fourth birthday, Daniel
started having recurring nightmares of being strapped to a table
with his limbs splayed out while a doctor or a
neighbor cut off his genitals with garden shears what The
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dreams continued until he was in middle school, which is
when the feeling of the tip of his penis rubbing
against his underwear started to drive him crazy. It was
irritating and uncomfortable, and it filled him with rage. And
that's when he started looking online of how do I
get my four Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm not laughing at his story. I'm laughing at a
photo that accompanied this story.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh yeah, Diane, you've seen this before. It's the guy
in the turtle neck with it pulled up. So yeah,
it's not rolled down hysterical.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it is fitting image.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Right, No, so that guy had that guy was, So
I would believe the opposite is true that maybe, and
when you're young, that there's some kind of like I
don't know, like maybe like you're maybe you're I don't
know what you're choking, I don't know whatever it is,
but like you're like, I got to get rid of
this flappy and it's.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Got to go.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did you ever in sports did you ever see someone
who was not circumcised?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah? You did, Yeah, I did not. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So it's just wild to think that we're basically a
split now fifty to fifty, like the fact that it's
not because a lot of the reasons people but went
for that option for their children was ridic societal norm.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, there was a kid. There was a kid who
played sports with us.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
His name was Sylvan and he he I mean his
his dad was not from America.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh okay, yeah, well so.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
He had like but I remember in the locker room
room it was like, check out Sylvan's dong.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But that's not the case anymore, that's what I'm getting yet.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Listen, people are exposed to a lot more pornography these days,
and you so you have certainly seen.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Everybody has seen an uncircumcised penis not back in the day, No, no,
But now well yeah, now I'm saying everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Everybody is seen with and without, and it's probably not.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Back in the day, if you saw one without you
were like, oh my god, it's sick.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But now it would just be like got it, don't
got it, got it, don't got it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I knew it the time had turned.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I didn't know it was fifty to fifty now well
it's actually fifty one nine. But you know what I mean, right,
so for the people, because the other benefit I mentioned
pornography is somethinking of sexual pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm sorry not to you, Diane, to my in law
who were in town.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And if you restore, oh, I don't think you get
those feelings back.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You don't, so that is not something that you gain
in the rebuilding.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Can I ask you this, I don't know where's the
where's the skin coming from? Well?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, you said there was stretch.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
No, but I don't even think that skin.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, but still I see. I was thinking, like you
still have to get some surgery. And I get a
much different feeling in my body if I rub my
penis and I rub my arm. Sorry Tyler's in laws,
but you do get a much different now, Like if
you could take this part and pull it over over maybe, But.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Am I am?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I you're your thighs.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I'm in between my thighs, like I'm on the loose,
flabby part of my penis.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
If I stretched that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Over the top, or if I have I stretched and
pulled that bad boy so much it's dead, tell you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That would be my fear.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm using so many tants down there that that would
be my fear I've wrapped so much tape around it
that I can't feel anything.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So then get me to the end game of the restoration.
If I want my foreskin back, what is the number
one reason.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't know the answer to that, and that I
can't figure out because it's because you're, like, God, I
don't clean myself enough.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I understand that that can be a problem. You you
always hear that, But I feel like the majority of
people figure out the daily hygiene in order to keep
yourself healthy. Yeah, Like, if you're getting your foreskin back,
you're you're then you have to learn a new way
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to make sure you're keeping yourself clean. You're actually adding
to your day.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, but I mean that's probably pretty easy to figure out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I get the people who are like so lazy they
want to get circumcised later in life just so they
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
If I have to clean this thing one more to.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
He's got the time, We're so busy.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Where am I going? Kristen line eight hill in the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I just I've never met anybody who's wanted to go,
who had who didn't want, or who didn't have in
wants And then I felt horrible.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Could you imagine being a kid and you're you're like, like,
that's your nightmare. Yeah, that's horrible. Wait, did I know
somebody who did it for religious reasons? As I think
I did?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I think I did where he got snipped and clipped
to convert to Judaism, or maybe I just read about it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Anyway, I'm sorry, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I feel bad for all you guys.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Why is that you'll never know the pleasure?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Are you not circumcised?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Hooded?
Speaker 7 (12:42):
My whole life hang loose like with hang loose like
wizard sleep right, saying.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
By the way, it takes you longer in the shower
than it does me. I just give a little whoop
up and I'm duds.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
You're you're acting like it takes extra time. It's literally
like washing a finger. It really takes no time. I
get great pleasure from it. Have you ever seen a
porn star who's uncircumcised? Yes, I have trouble with I
don't think so, man, I think they all are unsniffed.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, no, oh, you know what, you know what we have?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Funny, you've stunted the growth. You've stunted the growth of
the penis.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
By the way, you've never watched amateur porn.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
It's penile it's penile mutilation.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Can I ask you this? Can I ask you the
honest question, honest question? How how old are you?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I'm in my third mid thirties.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Were your what your dad was or was not circumcised?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
All of the men in my family are not not right.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And I think that's kind of how it falls in line.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, is that I would be willing to bet that
if your old man was circumcised, you would have been also, probably.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
And then I'd probably be mad about it. I have
friends and I in college it was a big funny
thing for all Mexic guy friends. But I was very
proud of it. But obviously it wasn't like, you know,
it's a private thing. But I have friends who literally
were like jealous because they didn't have the feeling the
extra like they felt like they had been like given it.
They've been given a yeah, they didn't have the option.
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And so they actually had a friend who started to
go through the He was into penile enhancements, i'll call it.
So he started to go through the process of like
restoring his right. He's also trying things like jelking and
other stuff. That is all very interesting. You guys love
to talk about that. Yeah, but yeah, it is a
h it's funny. It's funny, man, it's it's it's a
lot of fun to be proud of it. I'll tell
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you that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
No, good for you, good for you? All right, very good,
Thank you, sir? Thank you? Is there?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because like, can I ask this, is there.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
A dramatic like like everybody will say, like the feeling
and the sensation?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is it that dramatically? Better?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
See he seems to think though, but.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He doesn't know, right, But that kind of is the
question I was going to ask. Oh, I'm sorry, is
there any sort of evidence that, because it is regarded
as more pleasurable, that uncircumcised men actually find themselves on
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the shorter end of a session?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Say? Someone who's ticklish laughs quickly.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh, so you think, Wait, so you think if I'm
if I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I don't think I'm asking you, right, because you always
hear about the pleasure. But I'm thinking about not just
the strint, I'm thinking the marathon.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, So you think that if you're not certain, I
don't think that if you're not circumcised, you're done faster.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm wondering, is that something that's been studied. I'm sure
it's been studied.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
If it's so pleasurable, by the way, being circumcised is
also pleasurable. Like no, and I had been like, man,
this sucks. If I just had a hood, well, like,
I bet this would feel better.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
The guy said, it's it's normal to you, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't know what normalized mutilation.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's also what he said.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, I know, I know, but he's making a haha.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What about isn't the other arguments if we get away
from pleasure from pleasure and talk more about pain, isn't
it where parents want the child to have that that
body integrity and choice over their own autonomy, like they
want them as a as a human being to be
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able to make that choice.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'd make plenty of choices for my kids, Like for
the first multi years of their life, I decided what
they were eating.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I chose to change your diaper. You had been really pissed.
Had I not done that? Your asp will be read.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, No, I understand that as a as a thought
of like one, the child's older, but number one and
so at what age what age of are you.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Supposed to decide if you want the hood or not? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
As the child?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah? Like if you're gonna say, I don't want to
make this decision for my kid. I want him to
make a decision, like, Okay, I gotta be twenty one
to buy cigarettes. I got to be eighteen sixteen with
a parent to get a tattoo. Like, what what is
the what's the age of penis choice?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think you have to first girl who.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Says yes, which age? Which way do you want it?
Give me? Give me an hour and then some healed time.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think you have to wait until But isn't it
very painful as you get older adolescens? Yeah, but a
lot of stuff hurts. What do they do They equate
it to some other procedure on the power guillotine.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where am I going, Kristen.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But they always say that if you if you, if
you went through teething as an adult, you wouldn't be
able to tolerate the pain.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh see, this is saying it's generally not very painful, like.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You, So it's just stretching it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, it's not stretching.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
This is actually oh God, after you recover it home,
but you get put out for that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It says mild to moderate pain two to three out
of ten.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
That's nothing. Oh, then leave it there and then.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's I mean? The recovery time probably is is a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, a couple of weeks. I bet it's less than
pregnancy stitches.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Try to walk every day, I do that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, you don't.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Normal diet.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
There, you've just debunked few years of it being painful.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's not. It's a two out of three. Hi elliot
in the morning. Hi, n Yeah, Hi? Who's this?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Kevin?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Kevin?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Kevin, Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
I was calling because I am a circumcised male who
wish as I was, and I actually have done some
of the skin restoration procedures you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Question number one, Why do you wish you weren't?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Mostly it's because of bodily autonomy. Basically, I feel like
it's a choice that I didn't get to make for
my own body.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Are there a lot of people, and you know what,
God bless you, right, But are there? And don't look
down on me because I don't care about that. But
are there are there a lot of people who feel
that way? Are there more people I than I imagine
that feel that way?
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I expect.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So I think there's like a movement of like people
who you know, push for rights so to speak, for uh,
you know, for infant males.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And what is the and what is like you said
you've gone did you say you've looked into or you've
done some of the restoration stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I do.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
I have tried some of the restoration procedures. I have
like kept up with it. It's like it takes a
long time and it's it takes a lot of commitment
to do it. And I've kind of struggled with, like,
you know, deciding whether or not I want to restore
it or not, because like it's a matter of self
acceptance as well, Like do I, you know, want to
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change this part of my body and like, you know,
not accept who I am? Or you know, should I
just learn to like accept what I am?
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know? So what were you what were you like
were you tugging?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Now I have like one of those stretcher devices that
you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh yeah, the tents, the tents.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Yeah, it's kind of like a cone and it's got
like a rod that pushes like the head of your
penis into the skin and then the skin kind of
like right, yeah, and the cone holds it in place
so that it just stays like that. And it's not
supposed to be like uncomfortable. It can't get uncomfortable, like
if you wear it for a long long time throughout
the day. But I mean, you have to stay with
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it in order to like get any kind of progress.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And did you make any kind of product reason then quit?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I did, but I'm still kind of considering going back
to it. But it's not really like.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So are you liking in between right now where it's
like you're not circumcised, but you're not uncircumcised.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's just like your a little baggy.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
I mean, I guess I have a little more loose
skin than some people do, but it's not like you'd
still be able to tell that I'm circumcised and got
to look at it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Gotcha interesting?
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I wonder Now, so are you is there a little
bit of regret because you're now sort of stuck in
the middle.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
No, because it's not really that noticeable, Like I, like
I said, I am considering going back and doing it again. Well,
one thing's for sure, Like if I do have kids,
I'm not going to be doing it to them.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So you want them, you want them to be able
to make the decision. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
The only reason I would consider doing it before they decided,
you know, before they were an adult maybe, is if
they like had a medical issue, like the right it
was too tight or something.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Right, remember my mom my mom says, my circumcision was botched,
but it looked to me, it looks normal.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hello, sure he passed out.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yeah, I didn't realize you were talking to me. I've
never seen your penis said with it now?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hey you want, I'll text you all right? Very good,
thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I did not know that some children are born where
the foreskin is too tight.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Oh I feel like we've heard that before.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, does that always require circumcision or are there other
ways to relieve that pressure? What is that called?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Like the baby imagine crying already, So like how did
they know?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, like, does it look like it's starting to suffocate?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So it's inspection observation.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well, I mean you'd see it, but also like you know,
it's supposed to be a little loose and roughly roughly
or my am I.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
On an island.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No sounds like you are botched the no.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
No, but doesn't it doesn't It kind of choke off
the end.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's like putting a rubber band around it, like you
ever put a rubber band around your finger?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Too tight, right, and then the tit turns purple?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Is that what's going on? And can't you just kind
of slice it a little bit and just let it breathe.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm not either. What is that called diane?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Baby born without not without?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Or too tight?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Incomplete?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
No? Too tight? Too tight foreskin famosis famosas choke it ahead?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Oh pH I moses mm hmm. Usually resolves by puberty.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Oh so it just kind of.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Does the end may Boulger balloon when they peel. That's awful.
So it's like in it captures it and then most
boys foreskins do not retract before the age of five,
So a tight foreskin is normal in the younger age groups,
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but sometimes it's not possible until their ten or older,
and that's when you might have problems urinating. Why was
I don't know if I was ever told this or
you ever made reference to it? Craig, who used to
work on the show, You're not circumcised, not circumcised? He
was uncircumcised. Did he ever say? Why was it pull
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the skin back? Was it a decision made for bodily autonomy?
Was it for him to know his old.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Man wasn't circumcised? Right?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I thought his old man wasn't circumcised.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Okay, but he was at the sort of the like
the early adopter.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He didn't restore.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, no, yeah, had enough to pull it over though.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sandy loves it. And I'll tell you what this struck.
Don't finish early.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Son freezes that.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
He would never say.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I thought his old man was uncircumcised. So that's why
he was also uncircumcised. But that's right. At that age,
he was definitely in the minority. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
check my ballue, Hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Is this me?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Who's this? Yes? Zach? What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I have been on both sides of the equation. I
was circumcised when I was sixteen?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Man, That's how I found out I was diabetic. I
was getting a little micro cuts in the skin, and
they weren't healing properly and basically causing the skin to
tighten up more and more.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So when you were born. When you were born, your
parents chose to let you be uncircumcised, right, and then
somewhere along the way you start getting what did you say,
like little scratches and cuts.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's one thing about diabetes. I was like, you don't
heal very well.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh I didn't. I'm not diabetic.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Little tiny cuts in there and so.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So you're getting tiny cuts in your penis yep.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Who dog was very painful. But you know what was
worse the circumcision didn't circumcised yep. See I told you,
I mean going through puberty having those stitches down there.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh dude, so you're getting erections that are pulling out
the stitches.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Uh huh uh huh exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How did they did they tell you? Did they other?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Boy, I would get some circumcised just for that. I
get it, or diabetes running in the family and all that.
I wouldn't want anyone to go through that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did they did they recommend it or did they tell
you need to do it?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It was only going to get worse. I had to do.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It, Wow? And the was the pain from it bad?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Or was it just like like you said, you've got
you've got stitches in there, you're getting boners, right, you're
sixteen stitches.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Itch.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I've had those before. Now you're scratching at your wing
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Pulling all the time. It was terrible, man, Like the
surgery itself, the big deal waking up from it, But
the moment I saw a pretty girl, it was over.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Hey, can I ask you this, and I don't know
if you know the if you'd be able to answer
aesthetically when you would take a leak?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Which way did you like seeing yourself more?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I prefer where I am now, sweet. I've found that
it's more sensitive instead of less, and it just makes
everything easier because you don't get like the sit skin
in the way for anything. You don't have to get
in there and clean it on the regular, you know, right,
It's just easier and I like its aesthetically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Excellent, excellent, Hey dude, I'm glad you called. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Thank you, Hey, Ellie, since I showed this deeply personal story,
Can I got T shirt?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
You can hold on one second, Hold on one second,
what's on the back?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh? Ask me about my peans to bad?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
We couldn't give him a hoodie. It's a softball. I'm
gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Can I grab line seven? I don't know if that's true. Hi,
Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Ahi is this me?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Hey Elliott, this is Kennon calling it. I heard of
all people getting circumcised. Yes, I got circumcised when I
was about eleven. My father is Turkish and it's part
of the process of becoming a man.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Wait, so in Turkey they wait until until you're eleven
for circumcision.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
It's about anywhere between like eight to fifteen. I mean,
pretty weird, pretty weird tradition. But you dress up as
like a little prince and your family give you present
presents and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh, no fooling' no fulln I had no idea. I
had a thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Also, somebody is saying if you get surgery, like like restoration,
but you're not doing the stretching, the pulling, the tape
in and all that, that if they do surgery, that
they take the skin from where'd you pint you're tushy
like the cheek I think a little more sensitive, Like
(29:54):
I don't think that they're you know, scraping out part
of the hole, but like around.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
The Jesus Christ, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What did you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
As I don't think anyone thought that it was one
of those things that you just don't need to say
because the single is going there.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, that's exactly where you should go where it's more sensitive.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
The whole, the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Say perraneum.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Listen, I get that there is some discoloration on the genitals, bro.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You are stayed. Is that true? Is that where the graft?
Is that where the graph comes from? And while you're
doing that, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Would a doctor tell you, like if you're if your
child is born with diabetes? Going back to that one guy, right,
so type one, like, can you know that at birth.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That you're diabetic?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I mean is that is that part of the sort
of initial round.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't remember any sugars. I have no idea, I
have no clue, but that would be good.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
To know, well for sure, A sigh and screwed him
are the most commonplaces. Thank you, That was the first
question you're asked.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Line eight, I gotta go quick, Oh, my god.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Hi, y'all yeah, the morning, yeah, hi, hey, oh it
was awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I was going good. What can I do for you, sir?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
So I was thirty two when I had to have
the old hood.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Removed because you converted to Judaism.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
No, I think y'all. I think y'all said the word earlier.
I believe they called it for Moses.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It basically, oh you were, you were, you were choking
yourself off.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was basically they said, it lost like
it's elasticity, so it won't stretch over like your head
it so you wake up in the morning with your
your friend down there and everything's tight, and then it
hurts and it'll actually start like a rip and it hurts.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
O God.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
At first they gave me this kind of cream that
he said would help kind of bring the elasticity back,
and it worked for a while, but then it started
going back to that again, and like the other gentleman said,
you know you, when you're not circumcised, you gotta clean well. Obviously,
if you can't pull the skin back, you can't clean
very well.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Well.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
That led to a bacterial infection, and once that happened,
I was like, nope, take it. I'm gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Take it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, So so was the like the other guy said, like,
what's the recovery? Pretty pretty horrible?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Mine actually wasn't bad. It was uncomfortable, and you know,
of course you wake up in the morning with your friend,
but it doesn't, uh doesn't arise like normal because as
soon as it tries to rise, it's kind of uncomfortable
and painful, so.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It just stops. That makes sense, That makes sense. No, no, no, no,
that that actually makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Yeah, that that was a little uncomfortable, but once we
got past that part, it took a little getting used to,
but it was definitely made life a heck of a
lot easier.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Questions Two questions.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Is it Is it that much more sensitive with it
than without it?
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Honestly, I feel like it's less sensitive now because I
kind of put it in the aspect of uh, like
your arms, you wear a T shirt and you go
out in the sun, and your arms don't really burn
like your back would because your back stays covered all
the time. Yeah, right on the sun and take your
shirt off, you burn almost instantly. Right with your arms,
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you're in a T shirt all the time, so they
see sun all the time. So now because of no hood,
it's less sensitive in my opinion, I.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Got youa I got youa interesting. Do you like how
it looks better?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely looks better. It was kind of wild,
a little worried to get it done because the doctor
kept kind of pushing me not to do it. But
I think he was worried. Apparently not all of them
go perfect the way they want them, so he was
worried that the outcome wouldn't be what we wanted.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right, I got you Well, you know what, doc, did
you come over and clean it every day?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Really? I was well, I was like at this point,
I was like, you do what you gotta do and
I just have to deal with it. I was like,
I ain't doing that again. Wow that things holl up
like a tick.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
And I was like, all right, very good, very good,
Thank you sir. That was very educational.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
For those people handled theirselves well.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
There are just a few laughs that maybe we could
have done without.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, but that's just part of it.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
By the way, this DM says, if you are experiencing
famosis and don't want to go through a full circumcision,
you can get a dorsal slit which does provide temporary
relief and they mention allow you to clean, which is
the big concern with femosis is.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Not being able to clean. But if I dorsal slit it,
I can.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You may be able to get away with that instead
of a full circumcision.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So that's well, I mean, we know where the dorsal
fin is, so I just do this and then I
can kind of get around it like that.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't think it's done by yourself at home. Where's
the exact night
You are correct. Yes, yes, Have you ever wished that
you weren't?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, I can't say that I have had that thought.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I never have either, Now I never have either. Is
Mike circumcised? He is?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Do you know if he ever wished he wasn't? Do
more people? Do more people?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
She spent enough time thinking back to that conversation where
she asked him second or third date?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No, No, But I think, like, for example, I'm circumcised, right,
But I think that if I wish I wasn't, I
would have said something to Jackie. I don't know that
I would ever go through with like restoration.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like you would have apologized to her.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Why would I apologize?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, why would you have said?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
That's the conversation about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, oh no, no, Like, like Jackie knows I'm circumcised.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Obviously she's seen it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Are you saying so in the face of pleasure?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Why would maybe bring that up to her?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well? Two things?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, no, no, no. The first of all, the tide
has turned changed. Tide has turned that it used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It used to be eighty percent of men were circumcised.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Right, I know that that's changed over the years.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Right dramatically.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now only forty nine percent of men are circumcised, I
know is half, so the majority, the majority are not
circumcised in the United States, not just European has always
been like that, so obviously it's turned. It's turned a
bit where it's not as it's not as commonplace, and
there has been a growing demand. This is how I
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got there. There has been a growing demand of people
who are at least interested in restoration, meaning undoing a circumcision.
The old attached some skin to me.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
How many hyphens there is in that?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
A lot, a lot of hyphens, But what I was one?
So I was wondering two things. Number one is I
don't even know why the tide turned, but it did,
and that's okay, that's okay, but more and obviously, if
there is a growing interest in restoration, that means that
(02:26):
people are at least curious or want to learn about
going from circumcised to uncircumcised. But is the same true
going the other way, or there's still people that are
uncircumcised that wish they were circumcised, which I'm assuming is
a much easier surgery.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Not is an adult I would imagine, haven't we heard
that it would be really painful wait.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To get circumcised. Yes, yes, I would assume that that's
very painful. I would also assume.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
They put you out for getting local.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Getting restoration is unbelievably painful.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I'm not as familiar with the restoration process. That's the hardware.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The there's like there's air and pulling and stretching and
air and pulling and stretching.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, I mean there is. The Cleveland Clinic's got a
hold right up on it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Which it's not a how to, by the way.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It says you won't get your old foreskin back, but
you can stretch skin over time to create a new
foreskin or surgically attached skin from another area of your body.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
How many appointments is the stretching one? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And what is that daily regimen?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And can I just stretch it home?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I was gonna say, I may be there already.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
They used to have Do you see anything on there
that are like P tents P tents? We're p tense
penis P tents where it's almost like it's almost like
a little that goes over your the the can I
can I say this word?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How are you to say? The the end or the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Top well, I don't want people to think it's by
my nuts.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, when thinks that, Now.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The other end, the other end, the out end, sure, right, that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There's like almost like a crown that you put on it,
and it's almost.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Got like that's the stretching.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, it's almost got little prongs.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you pull pull the skin up and attach.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It to there and it's not painful.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh I'm sure it's unbelievably painful. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well they just keep they keep talking about how it's
gradual stretching that is happening.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Oh yeah, And they talk about tape or straps.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Or like yeah, or a tissue expansion device, which sounds
like what you're describing. Yeah, what kind of tape. I
don't have duct tape, Scott not painters. I don't know painters,
though you might want because it's a blue.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Ball stop.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, it's made to protect other parts.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh so I tape it here and I'm protecting.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well you're when you then pull the tape off, that's
painter's tape. Is doesn't here as well as other tape,
so that you don't damage what's around.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Oh that's good. So I'm not pulling. I'm not pulling
any loose skin or hairs.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What percentage? So those that are looking to have the
procedure done later in life where they get circumcised, right,
are the majority of those for religious reasons?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The only thing? No, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
There are some people who just I would bet for
some people, it's obviously for religious. For some people it's
probably esthetic. For some people it may just be I
just I just like, maybe I got because don't like,
you can get dirty.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
In there if you just got you know, like a.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Big hood wearing all the time, so you could get
a little you can get dirty in there. So maybe
you got like a bad infection or something. You're like,
I'm never doing that again. And then there's some people
who like, for example, why would you want restoration? Let's
flip the script. I don't know, but I was reading
about this guy named Daniel Floyd.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Around his fourth birthday.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Imagine how this is this he's circumcised, right, So he
got circumcised as a baby. Around his fourth birthday, Daniel
started having recurring nightmares of being strapped to a table
with his limbs splayed out while a doctor or a
neighbor cut off his genitals with garden shears what The
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dreams continued until he was in middle school, which is
when the feeling of the tip of his penis rubbing
against his underwear started to drive him crazy. It was
irritating and uncomfortable, and it filled him with rage. And
that's when he started looking online of how do I
get my four Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm not laughing at his story. I'm laughing at a
photo that accompanied this story.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh yeah, Diane, you've seen this before. It's the guy
in the turtle neck with it pulled up. So yeah,
it's not rolled down hysterical.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it is fitting image.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Right, No, so that guy had that guy was, So
I would believe the opposite is true that maybe, and
when you're young, that there's some kind of like I
don't know, like maybe like you're maybe you're I don't
know what you're choking, I don't know whatever it is,
but like you're like, I got to get rid of
this flappy and it's.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Got to go.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Did you ever in sports did you ever see someone
who was not circumcised?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah? You did, Yeah, I did not. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So it's just wild to think that we're basically a
split now fifty to fifty, like the fact that it's
not because a lot of the reasons people but went
for that option for their children was ridic societal norm.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, there was a kid. There was a kid who
played sports with us.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
His name was Sylvan and he he I mean his
his dad was not from America.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh okay, yeah, well so.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
He had like but I remember in the locker room
room it was like, check out Sylvan's dong.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But that's not the case anymore, that's what I'm getting yet.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Listen, people are exposed to a lot more pornography these days,
and you so you have certainly seen.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Everybody has seen an uncircumcised penis not back in the day, No, no,
But now well yeah, now I'm saying everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Everybody is seen with and without, and it's probably not.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Back in the day, if you saw one without you
were like, oh my god, it's sick.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But now it would just be like got it, don't
got it, got it, don't got it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I knew it the time had turned.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I didn't know it was fifty to fifty now well
it's actually fifty one nine. But you know what I mean, right,
so for the people, because the other benefit I mentioned
pornography is somethinking of sexual pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm sorry not to you, Diane, to my in law
who were in town.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And if you restore, oh, I don't think you get
those feelings back.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You don't, so that is not something that you gain
in the rebuilding.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Can I ask you this, I don't know where's the
where's the skin coming from? Well?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, you said there was stretch.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
No, but I don't even think that skin.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, but still I see. I was thinking, like you
still have to get some surgery. And I get a
much different feeling in my body if I rub my
penis and I rub my arm. Sorry Tyler's in laws,
but you do get a much different now, Like if
you could take this part and pull it over over maybe, But.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Am I am?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I you're your thighs.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I'm in between my thighs, like I'm on the loose,
flabby part of my penis.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
If I stretched that.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Over the top, or if I have I stretched and
pulled that bad boy so much it's dead, tell you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That would be my fear.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I'm using so many tants down there that that would
be my fear I've wrapped so much tape around it
that I can't feel anything.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So then get me to the end game of the restoration.
If I want my foreskin back, what is the number
one reason.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I don't know the answer to that, and that I
can't figure out because it's because you're, like, God, I
don't clean myself enough.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I understand that that can be a problem. You you
always hear that, But I feel like the majority of
people figure out the daily hygiene in order to keep
yourself healthy. Yeah, Like, if you're getting your foreskin back,
you're you're then you have to learn a new way
(11:35):
to make sure you're keeping yourself clean. You're actually adding
to your day.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, but I mean that's probably pretty easy to figure out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I get the people who are like so lazy they
want to get circumcised later in life just so they
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
If I have to clean this thing one more to.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
He's got the time, We're so busy.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Where am I going? Kristen line eight hill in the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I just I've never met anybody who's wanted to go,
who had who didn't want, or who didn't have in
wants And then I felt horrible.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Could you imagine being a kid and you're you're like, like,
that's your nightmare. Yeah, that's horrible. Wait, did I know
somebody who did it for religious reasons? As I think
I did?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I think I did where he got snipped and clipped
to convert to Judaism, or maybe I just read about it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Anyway, I'm sorry, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I feel bad for all you guys.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Why is that you'll never know the pleasure?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Are you not circumcised?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Hooded?
Speaker 7 (12:42):
My whole life hang loose like with hang loose like
wizard sleep right, saying.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
By the way, it takes you longer in the shower
than it does me. I just give a little whoop
up and I'm duds.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
You're you're acting like it takes extra time. It's literally
like washing a finger. It really takes no time. I
get great pleasure from it. Have you ever seen a
porn star who's uncircumcised? Yes, I have trouble with I
don't think so, man, I think they all are unsniffed.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No, no, oh, you know what, you know what we have?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Funny, you've stunted the growth. You've stunted the growth of
the penis.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
By the way, you've never watched amateur porn.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
It's penile it's penile mutilation.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Can I ask you this? Can I ask you the
honest question, honest question? How how old are you?
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I'm in my third mid thirties.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Were your what your dad was or was not circumcised?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
All of the men in my family are not not right.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And I think that's kind of how it falls in line.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, is that I would be willing to bet that
if your old man was circumcised, you would have been also, probably.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
And then I'd probably be mad about it. I have
friends and I in college it was a big funny
thing for all Mexic guy friends. But I was very
proud of it. But obviously it wasn't like, you know,
it's a private thing. But I have friends who literally
were like jealous because they didn't have the feeling the
extra like they felt like they had been like given it.
They've been given a yeah, they didn't have the option.
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And so they actually had a friend who started to
go through the He was into penile enhancements, i'll call it.
So he started to go through the process of like
restoring his right. He's also trying things like jelking and
other stuff. That is all very interesting. You guys love
to talk about that. Yeah, but yeah, it is a
h it's funny. It's funny, man, it's it's it's a
lot of fun to be proud of it. I'll tell
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you that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
No, good for you, good for you? All right, very good,
Thank you, sir? Thank you? Is there?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Because like, can I ask this, is there.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
A dramatic like like everybody will say, like the feeling
and the sensation?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is it that dramatically? Better?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
See he seems to think though, but.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He doesn't know, right, But that kind of is the
question I was going to ask. Oh, I'm sorry, is
there any sort of evidence that, because it is regarded
as more pleasurable, that uncircumcised men actually find themselves on
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the shorter end of a session?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Say? Someone who's ticklish laughs quickly.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh, so you think, Wait, so you think if I'm
if I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I don't think I'm asking you, right, because you always
hear about the pleasure. But I'm thinking about not just
the strint, I'm thinking the marathon.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, So you think that if you're not certain, I
don't think that if you're not circumcised, you're done faster.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm wondering, is that something that's been studied. I'm sure
it's been studied.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
If it's so pleasurable, by the way, being circumcised is
also pleasurable. Like no, and I had been like, man,
this sucks. If I just had a hood, well, like,
I bet this would feel better.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
The guy said, it's it's normal to you, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't know what normalized mutilation.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's also what he said.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, I know, I know, but he's making a haha.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
What about isn't the other arguments if we get away
from pleasure from pleasure and talk more about pain, isn't
it where parents want the child to have that that
body integrity and choice over their own autonomy, like they
want them as a as a human being to be
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able to make that choice.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'd make plenty of choices for my kids, Like for
the first multi years of their life, I decided what
they were eating.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I chose to change your diaper. You had been really pissed.
Had I not done that? Your asp will be read.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, No, I understand that as a as a thought
of like one, the child's older, but number one and
so at what age what age of are you.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Supposed to decide if you want the hood or not? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
As the child?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah? Like if you're gonna say, I don't want to
make this decision for my kid. I want him to
make a decision, like, Okay, I gotta be twenty one
to buy cigarettes. I got to be eighteen sixteen with
a parent to get a tattoo. Like, what what is
the what's the age of penis choice?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think you have to first girl who.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Says yes, which age? Which way do you want it?
Give me? Give me an hour and then some healed time.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think you have to wait until But isn't it
very painful as you get older adolescens? Yeah, but a
lot of stuff hurts. What do they do They equate
it to some other procedure on the power guillotine.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where am I going, Kristen.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
But they always say that if you if you, if
you went through teething as an adult, you wouldn't be
able to tolerate the pain.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Oh see, this is saying it's generally not very painful, like.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You, So it's just stretching it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No, it's not stretching.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
This is actually oh God, after you recover it home,
but you get put out for that.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It says mild to moderate pain two to three out
of ten.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
That's nothing. Oh, then leave it there and then.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's I mean? The recovery time probably is is a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, a couple of weeks. I bet it's less than
pregnancy stitches.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Try to walk every day, I do that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, you don't.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Normal diet.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
There, you've just debunked few years of it being painful.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's not. It's a two out of three. Hi elliot
in the morning. Hi, n Yeah, Hi? Who's this?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Kevin?
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Kevin?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Kevin, Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
I was calling because I am a circumcised male who
wish as I was, and I actually have done some
of the skin restoration procedures you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Question number one, Why do you wish you weren't?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Mostly it's because of bodily autonomy. Basically, I feel like
it's a choice that I didn't get to make for
my own body.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Are there a lot of people, and you know what,
God bless you, right, But are there? And don't look
down on me because I don't care about that. But
are there are there a lot of people who feel
that way? Are there more people I than I imagine
that feel that way?
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I expect.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
So I think there's like a movement of like people
who you know, push for rights so to speak, for uh,
you know, for infant males.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And what is the and what is like you said
you've gone did you say you've looked into or you've
done some of the restoration stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I do.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
I have tried some of the restoration procedures. I have
like kept up with it. It's like it takes a
long time and it's it takes a lot of commitment
to do it. And I've kind of struggled with, like,
you know, deciding whether or not I want to restore
it or not, because like it's a matter of self
acceptance as well, Like do I, you know, want to
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change this part of my body and like, you know,
not accept who I am? Or you know, should I
just learn to like accept what I am?
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know? So what were you what were you like
were you tugging?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Now I have like one of those stretcher devices that
you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh yeah, the tents, the tents.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Yeah, it's kind of like a cone and it's got
like a rod that pushes like the head of your
penis into the skin and then the skin kind of
like right, yeah, and the cone holds it in place
so that it just stays like that. And it's not
supposed to be like uncomfortable. It can't get uncomfortable, like
if you wear it for a long long time throughout
the day. But I mean, you have to stay with
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it in order to like get any kind of progress.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And did you make any kind of product reason then quit?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I did, but I'm still kind of considering going back
to it. But it's not really like.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So are you liking in between right now where it's
like you're not circumcised, but you're not uncircumcised.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's just like your a little baggy.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
I mean, I guess I have a little more loose
skin than some people do, but it's not like you'd
still be able to tell that I'm circumcised and got
to look at it.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Gotcha interesting?
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I wonder Now, so are you is there a little
bit of regret because you're now sort of stuck in
the middle.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
No, because it's not really that noticeable, Like I, like
I said, I am considering going back and doing it again. Well,
one thing's for sure, Like if I do have kids,
I'm not going to be doing it to them.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So you want them, you want them to be able
to make the decision. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
The only reason I would consider doing it before they decided,
you know, before they were an adult maybe, is if
they like had a medical issue, like the right it
was too tight or something.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Right, remember my mom my mom says, my circumcision was botched,
but it looked to me, it looks normal.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hello, sure he passed out.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Yeah, I didn't realize you were talking to me. I've
never seen your penis said with it now?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hey you want, I'll text you all right? Very good,
thank you, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I did not know that some children are born where
the foreskin is too tight.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Oh I feel like we've heard that before.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, does that always require circumcision or are there other
ways to relieve that pressure? What is that called?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Like the baby imagine crying already, So like how did
they know?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, like, does it look like it's starting to suffocate?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So it's inspection observation.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well, I mean you'd see it, but also like you know,
it's supposed to be a little loose and roughly roughly
or my am I.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
On an island.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No sounds like you are botched the no.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
No, but doesn't it doesn't It kind of choke off
the end.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's like putting a rubber band around it, like you
ever put a rubber band around your finger?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Too tight, right, and then the tit turns purple?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Is that what's going on? And can't you just kind
of slice it a little bit and just let it breathe.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm not either. What is that called diane?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Baby born without not without?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Or too tight?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Incomplete?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
No? Too tight? Too tight foreskin famosis famosas choke it ahead?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Oh pH I moses mm hmm. Usually resolves by puberty.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Oh so it just kind of.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Does the end may Boulger balloon when they peel. That's awful.
So it's like in it captures it and then most
boys foreskins do not retract before the age of five,
So a tight foreskin is normal in the younger age groups,
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but sometimes it's not possible until their ten or older,
and that's when you might have problems urinating. Why was
I don't know if I was ever told this or
you ever made reference to it? Craig, who used to
work on the show, You're not circumcised, not circumcised? He
was uncircumcised. Did he ever say? Why was it pull
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the skin back? Was it a decision made for bodily autonomy?
Was it for him to know his old.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Man wasn't circumcised? Right?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I thought his old man wasn't circumcised.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Okay, but he was at the sort of the like
the early adopter.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He didn't restore.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, no, yeah, had enough to pull it over though.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Sandy loves it. And I'll tell you what this struck.
Don't finish early.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Son freezes that.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
He would never say.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I thought his old man was uncircumcised. So that's why
he was also uncircumcised. But that's right. At that age,
he was definitely in the minority. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
check my ballue, Hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Is this me?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Who's this? Yes? Zach? What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I have been on both sides of the equation. I
was circumcised when I was sixteen?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Man, That's how I found out I was diabetic. I
was getting a little micro cuts in the skin, and
they weren't healing properly and basically causing the skin to
tighten up more and more.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So when you were born. When you were born, your
parents chose to let you be uncircumcised, right, and then
somewhere along the way you start getting what did you say,
like little scratches and cuts.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's one thing about diabetes. I was like, you don't
heal very well.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh I didn't. I'm not diabetic.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Little tiny cuts in there and so.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So you're getting tiny cuts in your penis yep.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Who dog was very painful. But you know what was
worse the circumcision didn't circumcised yep. See I told you,
I mean going through puberty having those stitches down there.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh dude, so you're getting erections that are pulling out
the stitches.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Uh huh uh huh exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How did they did they tell you? Did they other?
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Boy, I would get some circumcised just for that. I
get it, or diabetes running in the family and all that.
I wouldn't want anyone to go through that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did they did they recommend it or did they tell
you need to do it?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
It was only going to get worse. I had to do.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It, Wow? And the was the pain from it bad?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Or was it just like like you said, you've got
you've got stitches in there, you're getting boners, right, you're
sixteen stitches.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Itch.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I've had those before. Now you're scratching at your wing
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Pulling all the time. It was terrible, man, Like the
surgery itself, the big deal waking up from it, But
the moment I saw a pretty girl, it was over.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Hey, can I ask you this, and I don't know
if you know the if you'd be able to answer
aesthetically when you would take a leak?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Which way did you like seeing yourself more?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I prefer where I am now, sweet. I've found that
it's more sensitive instead of less, and it just makes
everything easier because you don't get like the sit skin
in the way for anything. You don't have to get
in there and clean it on the regular, you know, right,
It's just easier and I like its aesthetically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Excellent, excellent, Hey dude, I'm glad you called. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Thank you, Hey, Ellie, since I showed this deeply personal story,
Can I got T shirt?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
You can hold on one second, Hold on one second,
what's on the back?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh? Ask me about my peans to bad?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
We couldn't give him a hoodie. It's a softball. I'm
gonna take it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Can I grab line seven? I don't know if that's true. Hi,
Elliot in the morning.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Ahi is this me?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Hey Elliott, this is Kennon calling it. I heard of
all people getting circumcised. Yes, I got circumcised when I
was about eleven. My father is Turkish and it's part
of the process of becoming a man.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Wait, so in Turkey they wait until until you're eleven
for circumcision.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
It's about anywhere between like eight to fifteen. I mean,
pretty weird, pretty weird tradition. But you dress up as
like a little prince and your family give you present
presents and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh, no fooling' no fulln I had no idea. I
had a thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Also, somebody is saying if you get surgery, like like restoration,
but you're not doing the stretching, the pulling, the tape
in and all that, that if they do surgery, that
they take the skin from where'd you pint you're tushy
like the cheek I think a little more sensitive, Like
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I don't think that they're you know, scraping out part
of the hole, but like around.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
The Jesus Christ, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What did you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
As I don't think anyone thought that it was one
of those things that you just don't need to say
because the single is going there.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, that's exactly where you should go where it's more sensitive.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
The whole, the.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Say perraneum.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Listen, I get that there is some discoloration on the genitals, bro.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You are stayed. Is that true? Is that where the graft?
Is that where the graph comes from? And while you're
doing that, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Would a doctor tell you, like if you're if your
child is born with diabetes? Going back to that one guy, right,
so type one, like, can you know that at birth.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That you're diabetic?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I mean is that is that part of the sort
of initial round.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't remember any sugars. I have no idea, I
have no clue, but that would be good.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
To know, well for sure, A sigh and screwed him
are the most commonplaces. Thank you, That was the first
question you're asked.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Line eight, I gotta go quick, Oh, my god.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Hi, y'all yeah, the morning, yeah, hi, hey, oh it
was awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I was going good. What can I do for you, sir?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
So I was thirty two when I had to have
the old hood.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Removed because you converted to Judaism.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
No, I think y'all. I think y'all said the word earlier.
I believe they called it for Moses.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It basically, oh you were, you were, you were choking
yourself off.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was basically they said, it lost like
it's elasticity, so it won't stretch over like your head
it so you wake up in the morning with your
your friend down there and everything's tight, and then it
hurts and it'll actually start like a rip and it hurts.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
O God.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
At first they gave me this kind of cream that
he said would help kind of bring the elasticity back,
and it worked for a while, but then it started
going back to that again, and like the other gentleman said,
you know you, when you're not circumcised, you gotta clean well. Obviously,
if you can't pull the skin back, you can't clean
very well.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Well.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
That led to a bacterial infection, and once that happened,
I was like, nope, take it. I'm gonna get it done.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Take it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, So so was the like the other guy said, like,
what's the recovery? Pretty pretty horrible?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Mine actually wasn't bad. It was uncomfortable, and you know,
of course you wake up in the morning with your friend,
but it doesn't, uh doesn't arise like normal because as
soon as it tries to rise, it's kind of uncomfortable
and painful, so.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It just stops. That makes sense, That makes sense. No, no, no, no,
that that actually makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Yeah, that that was a little uncomfortable, but once we
got past that part, it took a little getting used to,
but it was definitely made life a heck of a
lot easier.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Questions Two questions.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Is it Is it that much more sensitive with it
than without it?
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Honestly, I feel like it's less sensitive now because I
kind of put it in the aspect of uh, like
your arms, you wear a T shirt and you go
out in the sun, and your arms don't really burn
like your back would because your back stays covered all
the time. Yeah, right on the sun and take your
shirt off, you burn almost instantly. Right with your arms,
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you're in a T shirt all the time, so they
see sun all the time. So now because of no hood,
it's less sensitive in my opinion, I.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Got youa I got youa interesting. Do you like how
it looks better?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely looks better. It was kind of wild,
a little worried to get it done because the doctor
kept kind of pushing me not to do it. But
I think he was worried. Apparently not all of them
go perfect the way they want them, so he was
worried that the outcome wouldn't be what we wanted.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right, I got you Well, you know what, doc, did
you come over and clean it every day?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Really? I was well, I was like at this point,
I was like, you do what you gotta do and
I just have to deal with it. I was like,
I ain't doing that again. Wow that things holl up
like a tick.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
And I was like, all right, very good, very good,
Thank you sir. That was very educational.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
For those people handled theirselves well.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I thought I did.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
There are just a few laughs that maybe we could
have done without.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, but that's just part of it.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
By the way, this DM says, if you are experiencing
famosis and don't want to go through a full circumcision,
you can get a dorsal slit which does provide temporary
relief and they mention allow you to clean, which is
the big concern with femosis is.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Not being able to clean. But if I dorsal slit it,
I can.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You may be able to get away with that instead
of a full circumcision.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So that's well, I mean, we know where the dorsal
fin is, so I just do this and then I
can kind of get around it like that.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't think it's done by yourself at home. Where's
the exact night
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