February 5, 2026 • 25 mins
Poet L̷a̷u̷r̷e̷a̷t̷e̷ Elliot.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Show up hands. Has anybody ever heard of any dial
a poem?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now, I swear to God, dial a poem?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I have not?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
I remember there was a dial a joke.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, Nope, dial a poem now it started in nineteen.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Sixty eight, so not well marketed.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But did it have a moment where it was big?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, I'm being.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Serious when that realm since nineteen when that moment been.
I mean it's continuing for a reason, right.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Because people are calling it Christian. Will you do me
a favor?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Will you find me anybody, anybody, anybody who has ever
heard of or called dial a poem?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Dial a poem, poem? Dial a poem?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Says here the average Americans spent somewhere between four and
five hours a day looking at their phone, but only
a few minutes using it to speak someone. So if
you're if you haven't urged to stop doom scrolling and
hear an actual human voice called dial a poem? Wait,
so does a human read it to It's got to
be recorded.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I wouldn't think this is a Mann line.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's started by a guy named John Giorno Gio r
n oh, John.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Giorna, not the pizza Guy.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The no founded a service called dial a Poem in
nineteen sixty eight in an attempt to remedy poetry being
seventy five years behind painting and sculpture and dance and
music when it comes to its use of technology, multimedia
and performance. For the next two years, at broadcast poems
(01:58):
by Giorno himself along with like minded contemporaries, including and
they mentioned a couple. Oh, I'd not give the number, sorry,
eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Anybody who's ever heard of it? I may get nobody.
I had never heard of it. Nobody in this room
had ever heard of it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
So for the next two years. But then what after that?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh, it got shut down for a little bit by
the FCC and the FBI. Why FBI complaints of indecency
and claims that the poems, many of which were explicitly
sexual and political in nature, would incite violence.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Was this a way that like kids in the sixties
and seventies.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
What was this how they got off?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Oh, I wasn't going to phrase it that way.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh, so like they would call it, it would be all dirty.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Now I need to hear one of the poems.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I want to hear one of the old school poems.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking out. Oh yeah, how long
was it shut down for?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Was to remain dormant for long?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Re emerged in various forms over all of the next
decades to come, but most recently as part of the
I Love John Giorno retrospective. Giorno himself died in twenty nineteen,
but the latest incarnation of Dialo Poem means that his
idea lives on.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
What's kind of cool in terms of legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Today's service is a collaboration between Giorno's nonprofit Giorno Poetry
Systems and The Poetry Project. It features work from thirty
contemporary poets and promises that quote new recordings are added regularly.
They do say that there is a website, but they
(03:50):
encourage you to call it directly.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, you've got to kind of buy into what it
originally was. No fun if it's done this way.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But I don't I don't understand because the person, the
person who is writing this, they.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Called the line yeah, and it says I was greeted.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
By a Chilean poet named Samuel Espanola Hernandez. Does that
mean they like they didn't answer the phone, Hello, it's Samuel.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Recorded, or do they announce like my name is and
the title of this poem is.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't know. I also don't know why I'm so
intrigued by it.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Do you want to call it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You bet?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
A lot of people said they're they're finding poems.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
A lot of people are saying that they're finding poems
that they'd never even.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Heard of before.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I could probably say that, I bet I know less
than five poems. Okay, Kristen, you're making a face like
I'm stupid?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How many do you know? Are there poems that are
that I don't know? Are poems?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
But are poems that I are you thinking more like
nursery rhymes or something?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I wasn't even considering that, you know, No, I was
thinking of poems.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like when that category comes up on Jeopardy, I'm like,
you may as well put Bible up there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So are you saying that like you couldn't name that tune?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I can't, which is fine, But also I'm not expecting
you to recite a poem.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I can't name a poem.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yep, there's the one about the guy from Nantucket.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
It was the night before Christmas.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, Diane, that's a poem.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Idell at the phone. If that was read to me,
update your system.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Like for example, name name other than Edgar Allen. Name
a famous poet.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Robert Frost?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, there you go. Is it a road less travel?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know Walt Whitman. Was he a poet or
more of an author?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
The road not taken is Robert Frost?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Shut about like Langston Hughes, Maya Angelou?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh? Who was the girl.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who was the yellow coat at the Obama not funeral
elliott An inauguration?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What was her name?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Isn'tn Amanda something? Amanda Gorman? Yeah, that's it. She's great.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. I couldn't remember her name, but she was good.
She was good. People loved her.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Now I have found some of Giorno's poems. They they
are graphic, like this one's actually called pornographic poem.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But like graphic, it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
No because it says like there are words I cannot
read on.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
The radio, like what like what's it start with the
word seven?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's not every word is bad. This this one just
talks about.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Is it a being.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Used in a lot of well, in every conceivable position.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh yeah, roads traveled, dirt roads, dumb boner.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Haikus.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
If if this was I know you're saying, for the Times,
was it considered what you got?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You got such a ball of spit on your you
do it?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Did not?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Your hand's wet right now? It not anyway, I'm sorry, wet,
big ball of spit. Diane's chin wet.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I like Diane wondered if this is just something that
was too upsetting in the late sixties, counter this counter
culture hairy bush is. It's one thing. But if this
is something where it is still for this day's standards
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and moral compasses, still considered to be graphic. I feel
like if word gets out, some kids might be calling
this you're telling me what you're gonna say? They just
would watch porn on the internet.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah my phone.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah I have a phone.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But there's something just like we've talked about the two
phone systems that replace the screen, so it can be
like you're actually talking on a landline even though it
is done through Wi Fi. Right, there is some sort of.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Retro Oh absolutely absolutely, It's been around since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Is it the same person calling?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
And I bet they have regulars.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I told you it was my goal last holiday season
to read more. And the actual texts I wanted to
read were Shakespeare.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
No, but ShakespeRe obviously wrote poems, was poetry, and I did.
I got a couple of books from the library, bought
a couple, and then life got in the way.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's January.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
This was last ye, come on please.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
January.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Month, beginning of year, thirty one days January, King of
the Haiku.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So even though there were some am I not even
saying haikus?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like am I doing sonnets?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You're definitely not doing a sont no. Okay, haiku though
has the strict rules, isn't it five seven five something
like that?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't know. You went to the library.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I wasn't reading haiku and that English class was a
long time because I don't remember much of that. Yes,
three lines five seven, Yes, exactly, So now do one.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's February, by the way, okay, February cold, Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
About love, February cold.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Thank you, Christen loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Snacks stupid, but and I will, oh, thank you. I
will be very open, much like the poem you just recited.
I think also wrote I created thank you in real time.
I When you get to the end of a poem,
there definitely can be frustration because you don't feel like
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you understood what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's the only thing I remember from English class. During
the poetry section, we would get to the end and
missus Aldridge, who would like to discuss what you learn
from poem?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In every straight A nerd hands up?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Danny?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Would you Danny Chang? Would you like to go? Thank you?
And that he would just say what it was. I would.
I would sit there and going I didn't get that.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
No, I'm sitting there going God, don't call me, God,
don't call me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But what I was saying, oh, I'm such well, thank you, Danny.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Did anybody have something different whom I say, oh, wing
ing real name?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Would you like to go? Thank you? And that he
would give what his interpretation was. And I sit there
and go like, hey, can the bell ring? Can we
go smoke? Horrible? Horrible?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
What do you think the poem was? A poet was
trying to tell us here?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I don't know, so to complete my thought, Yes, anyone
can be frustrated at the end of a poem or
any text. It's not his poems. You can read a
whole book and not comprehend what happened, But with poetry
because you're able to go back to that first line
so quickly. It's not pages and pages, hundreds of pages.
(12:08):
I like going back and trying to break down and
figure it out, and it's often open to interpretation. You
don't have to. If someone is a true artist, it's
your takeaway from their art. It's not necessarily what inspired
them to put that on the paper.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I agree. Can I can I just piggyback something on that,
make it rhyme and spell a word down the side.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That was fun. I love that. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I don't care if it's AABB or AB a B,
but don't give me a C in the middle, Like
make that rhyme?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Please? Am I going to line one? Hi Elliott in the.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Morning, Good morning, How are you, Elliott?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm excellent? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Think of how many griefs are this line? Like they
called the libraries last week.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, but the difference though, The difference though, is the libraries.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The libraries are real people.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't think I'm gonna call and Danny Chang answering
the phone.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Isn't that movie The Library?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Right?
Speaker 8 (13:20):
You are absolutely right?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Thank you? Isn't that that movie? The Librarian's opening soon?
Is it this Friday?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Or is it next Friday?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I know this is a wide release film.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think so. Isn't it The Librarian?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Have I heard of it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Is it Nicole Kidman in that? Or no? I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't know who's in The Librarians?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Oh, it's part of is it part of a trilogy?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I missed the other one?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
What is he talking about?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I heard a movie called The Library the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
There was one from like last summer.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
No, no, look upcoming movies, look up?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I ask this is Isn't this more of a documentary? Though?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm sorry? Is that not a movie?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But I don't. In my head I was thinking. That's
why I said, Oh, is Nicole Kidman in it?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know. She becauds. She's allowed to do documentaries. Listen.
I can't help it that I'm a well watched movie goer.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
What about about America's war on books?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Thank you? Nine one, It's a weird number two. God,
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I hope it's dirty.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Dial a poem. Juliana Huxtable.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh wait, Juliana Valencia. Hold on, I think that was live.
No way, yeah, no, there's no there's no way.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I'm telling you there was something about it that felt wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Really die.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
By the way, I'm not the first person who's hung
up on him.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
More time than even Cat.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I got through Huxtable, Juliana Huxtable, and in my head
all I'm hearing is Valencia.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That was great. Okay, I'm gonna try again. I'm gonna
try dial the poem.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But should you say hello to Alan coming? That's him?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It sounded like what's he wearing here?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I go, okay, Please also show some class in case
the guy is alive.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Hello, dial a poem. Hello, My name is bat and Sad,
and I would be reading a short story titled bors
Hello one of the men.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
The language, I don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's about soon.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I understand that Hello. Ov Elliott doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Know this language English understood.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Without letting onto it, she thought to turn around and
give him the stage to voice his question, but she
would continued.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's not going to be the same audio. I don't
know what language he speaks.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Flanders.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Seriously, that was when I guess Simpsons for TV shows
of every decade.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right, hold tight, not the same guy if it
goes back to feeling hunstable or what?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
What was? I'm pissed?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Dial a poem.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
This is Benjamin cruising. I'm reading I was on the
bus at home lacking reason. Hold on second, sir, the
air is red in the out particulate.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
This is butthole, buttle.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Wrong is over determined. Then the sun bleeds golden tyme.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't like him, Okay, I do like the way
that they are. I'll talk to say, dial poem. Okay,
So are we are we leaning towards it being recorded?
Can we actually take one in then, as long as
it's in English and we have the ability to censor it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yes, I've been I'm sitting right here.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I know, but I really thought that guy hesitated when
I said sir. So did Kristians. So this one we
we do think we're gonna call. We're anticipating it being
a recorded poem, but we.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Can we agree we wanted to be somebody like I
don't want like Hi, it's Brian Jones, like I want
somebody with like a little oomph to their name.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You're right, Oh, you want a famous poet.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, you don't think I'm gonna this is Bill Shakespeare like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm not getting that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, But I give me like a like a like
a Juliana person.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think I hit that wrong.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
This person of belive.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Dial a poem.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
This is Gee Gonzalez. Was she known to order? I
opened my mouth enormative conveyance act the a of mores,
and I wanted so badly to ask of you in
a spectacle of indignation, euphemism, decorum's filigree. You you're speaking,
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invoked in me a desire to speak my place a
fixed point. I spoke broaching a distance. I spoke to you,
who blinked idly away. My speaking in unpartnered speech cut
a line of desire through ordinary air. I regard you
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speaking the why of erudite. I speak in an opportune moment,
A hedging sound made of mouth, all hesitance, affect, excruciating.
My point was not necessarily made to it slowly and
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gradually to this word, all of a sonic word, A
normal pronunciation of this word, to allow even just a
tiny part of it to sound and eighty mouth actions
for grounding naive forms. We converse. You take it well,
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the a of Timber. You regard me as I regard you.
What I spoke from my place, a fixed point, a placeholder.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
How did you hang out?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Eh?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
She out?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I'm sure she's very nice. She doesn't seem like a
fun hang.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
The person reading the poem is the poet.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Now, the A of Timber.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm the only one that was okay, I was the
A of Elliott. Oh do we have to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Danny olymp MacDonald had fun?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
No, Dan, come on, is this how your classmates felt like?
I was very distracted by your like rump thing over there.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Probably we didn't know whether it was his stomach who
made the noise or hers.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It was hers.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That was not my stump, Diane, if you knew what
I ate today, there's no way my stomach is growling.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Should we do one more?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I can't sit through the whole thing if it's like that,
this this, I'm back in class looking around going like,
oh my god, why am I in here?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I think we give it a go.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I also didn't like you wanted to discuss what came like,
what we got out of it?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'll be honest, I.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Don't even remember other than the a of timber, I
don't remember a word she said mouth.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I did think it might go sexual, and it may
have just went over our head. One more time. Oh
my god, are we still on? Are they still there? Sorry, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
One were time?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
But you can if you're bored, you can cut it off, okay,
but no, hold on, hold on. But if we're finding
ourselves interested and intrigue, we have to go through to
the end.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
Promise, dial a poem.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I'm run pageant and I'm going to read a poem
of mine called Butterfly.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You ever heard of him?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's a poet of my poem of mine.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Sorry, mister Paget, you don't like butterflies, that's why. Come on.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You don't know who this guy is. That was the
one live one.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He's like, oh my god, I didn't even get to
start my beautiful poem.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But you didn't even give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Dial a poem, and.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That says more about you than it does about his art.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm glad he's on there. I'm glad he's on there,
all right.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
He is a Frost Medal winner from the poet Or
Society of America.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Who would like to comment, Danny Chang, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, I should have guessed when I gave you the
option to bail, you were gonna take it before even.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The first time I did. This is Robert Bail.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
That wasn't his name. It was Ron Paget.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's not dirty, is it long? Longer? Longer than i'd go.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
But whether it's Ron Paget or Gia Gonzalez who at
least we got to hear through to the end.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sorry, that's my fault.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You don't want to If people are especially young, impressionable
kids in school, finding themselves drawn to this form, you
don't want to discourage them.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, Hey, if you like poems, go do it.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Man,
Show up hands. Has anybody ever heard of any dial
a poem?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now, I swear to God, dial a poem?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I have not?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (00:16):
I remember there was a dial a joke.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, Nope, dial a poem now it started in nineteen.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Sixty eight, so not well marketed.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But did it have a moment where it was big?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, I'm being.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Serious when that realm since nineteen when that moment been.
I mean it's continuing for a reason, right.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Because people are calling it Christian. Will you do me
a favor?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Will you find me anybody, anybody, anybody who has ever
heard of or called dial a poem?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Dial a poem, poem? Dial a poem?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Says here the average Americans spent somewhere between four and
five hours a day looking at their phone, but only
a few minutes using it to speak someone. So if
you're if you haven't urged to stop doom scrolling and
hear an actual human voice called dial a poem? Wait,
so does a human read it to It's got to
be recorded.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I wouldn't think this is a Mann line.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's started by a guy named John Giorno Gio r
n oh, John.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Giorna, not the pizza Guy.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The no founded a service called dial a Poem in
nineteen sixty eight in an attempt to remedy poetry being
seventy five years behind painting and sculpture and dance and
music when it comes to its use of technology, multimedia
and performance. For the next two years, at broadcast poems
(01:58):
by Giorno himself along with like minded contemporaries, including and
they mentioned a couple. Oh, I'd not give the number, sorry,
eight six six to Elliott eight six six two three
five five four six eight.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Anybody who's ever heard of it? I may get nobody.
I had never heard of it. Nobody in this room
had ever heard of it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
So for the next two years. But then what after that?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh, it got shut down for a little bit by
the FCC and the FBI. Why FBI complaints of indecency
and claims that the poems, many of which were explicitly
sexual and political in nature, would incite violence.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Was this a way that like kids in the sixties
and seventies.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
What was this how they got off?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Oh, I wasn't going to phrase it that way.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh, so like they would call it, it would be all dirty.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Now I need to hear one of the poems.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I want to hear one of the old school poems.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking out. Oh yeah, how long
was it shut down for?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Was to remain dormant for long?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Re emerged in various forms over all of the next
decades to come, but most recently as part of the
I Love John Giorno retrospective. Giorno himself died in twenty nineteen,
but the latest incarnation of Dialo Poem means that his
idea lives on.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
What's kind of cool in terms of legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Today's service is a collaboration between Giorno's nonprofit Giorno Poetry
Systems and The Poetry Project. It features work from thirty
contemporary poets and promises that quote new recordings are added regularly.
They do say that there is a website, but they
(03:50):
encourage you to call it directly.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, you've got to kind of buy into what it
originally was. No fun if it's done this way.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But I don't I don't understand because the person, the
person who is writing this, they.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Called the line yeah, and it says I was greeted.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
By a Chilean poet named Samuel Espanola Hernandez. Does that
mean they like they didn't answer the phone, Hello, it's Samuel.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Recorded, or do they announce like my name is and
the title of this poem is.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't know. I also don't know why I'm so
intrigued by it.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Do you want to call it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You bet?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
A lot of people said they're they're finding poems.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
A lot of people are saying that they're finding poems
that they'd never even.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Heard of before.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I could probably say that, I bet I know less
than five poems. Okay, Kristen, you're making a face like
I'm stupid?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How many do you know? Are there poems that are
that I don't know? Are poems?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
But are poems that I are you thinking more like
nursery rhymes or something?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I wasn't even considering that, you know, No, I was
thinking of poems.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like when that category comes up on Jeopardy, I'm like,
you may as well put Bible up there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So are you saying that like you couldn't name that tune?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I can't, which is fine, But also I'm not expecting
you to recite a poem.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I can't name a poem.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yep, there's the one about the guy from Nantucket.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
It was the night before Christmas.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, Diane, that's a poem.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Idell at the phone. If that was read to me,
update your system.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Like for example, name name other than Edgar Allen. Name
a famous poet.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Robert Frost?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, there you go. Is it a road less travel?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't know Walt Whitman. Was he a poet or
more of an author?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
The road not taken is Robert Frost?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Shut about like Langston Hughes, Maya Angelou?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh? Who was the girl.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who was the yellow coat at the Obama not funeral
elliott An inauguration?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What was her name?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Isn'tn Amanda something? Amanda Gorman? Yeah, that's it. She's great.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. I couldn't remember her name, but she was good.
She was good. People loved her.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Now I have found some of Giorno's poems. They they
are graphic, like this one's actually called pornographic poem.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
But like graphic, it's not.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
No because it says like there are words I cannot
read on.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
The radio, like what like what's it start with the
word seven?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's not every word is bad. This this one just
talks about.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Is it a being.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Used in a lot of well, in every conceivable position.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh yeah, roads traveled, dirt roads, dumb boner.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Haikus.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
If if this was I know you're saying, for the Times,
was it considered what you got?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You got such a ball of spit on your you
do it?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Did not?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Your hand's wet right now? It not anyway, I'm sorry, wet,
big ball of spit. Diane's chin wet.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I like Diane wondered if this is just something that
was too upsetting in the late sixties, counter this counter
culture hairy bush is. It's one thing. But if this
is something where it is still for this day's standards
(07:57):
and moral compasses, still considered to be graphic. I feel
like if word gets out, some kids might be calling
this you're telling me what you're gonna say? They just
would watch porn on the internet.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah my phone.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah I have a phone.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But there's something just like we've talked about the two
phone systems that replace the screen, so it can be
like you're actually talking on a landline even though it
is done through Wi Fi. Right, there is some sort of.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Retro Oh absolutely absolutely, It's been around since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Is it the same person calling?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
And I bet they have regulars.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I told you it was my goal last holiday season
to read more. And the actual texts I wanted to
read were Shakespeare.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
No, but ShakespeRe obviously wrote poems, was poetry, and I did.
I got a couple of books from the library, bought
a couple, and then life got in the way.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's January.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
This was last ye, come on please.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
January.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Month, beginning of year, thirty one days January, King of
the Haiku.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So even though there were some am I not even
saying haikus?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like am I doing sonnets?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You're definitely not doing a sont no. Okay, haiku though
has the strict rules, isn't it five seven five something
like that?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't know. You went to the library.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I wasn't reading haiku and that English class was a
long time because I don't remember much of that. Yes,
three lines five seven, Yes, exactly, So now do one.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's February, by the way, okay, February cold, Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
About love, February cold.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Thank you, Christen loved it.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Snacks stupid, but and I will, oh, thank you. I
will be very open, much like the poem you just recited.
I think also wrote I created thank you in real time.
I When you get to the end of a poem,
there definitely can be frustration because you don't feel like
(10:45):
you understood what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's the only thing I remember from English class. During
the poetry section, we would get to the end and
missus Aldridge, who would like to discuss what you learn
from poem?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In every straight A nerd hands up?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Danny?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Would you Danny Chang? Would you like to go? Thank you?
And that he would just say what it was. I would.
I would sit there and going I didn't get that.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
No, I'm sitting there going God, don't call me, God,
don't call me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But what I was saying, oh, I'm such well, thank you, Danny.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Did anybody have something different whom I say, oh, wing
ing real name?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Would you like to go? Thank you? And that he
would give what his interpretation was. And I sit there
and go like, hey, can the bell ring? Can we
go smoke? Horrible? Horrible?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
What do you think the poem was? A poet was
trying to tell us here?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I don't know, so to complete my thought, Yes, anyone
can be frustrated at the end of a poem or
any text. It's not his poems. You can read a
whole book and not comprehend what happened, But with poetry
because you're able to go back to that first line
so quickly. It's not pages and pages, hundreds of pages.
(12:08):
I like going back and trying to break down and
figure it out, and it's often open to interpretation. You
don't have to. If someone is a true artist, it's
your takeaway from their art. It's not necessarily what inspired
them to put that on the paper.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I agree. Can I can I just piggyback something on that,
make it rhyme and spell a word down the side.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That was fun. I love that. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I don't care if it's AABB or AB a B,
but don't give me a C in the middle, Like
make that rhyme?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Please? Am I going to line one? Hi Elliott in the.
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Morning, Good morning, How are you, Elliott?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm excellent? Thank you.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Think of how many griefs are this line? Like they
called the libraries last week.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, but the difference though, The difference though, is the libraries.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The libraries are real people.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I don't think I'm gonna call and Danny Chang answering
the phone.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Isn't that movie The Library?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Right?
Speaker 8 (13:20):
You are absolutely right?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Thank you? Isn't that that movie? The Librarian's opening soon?
Is it this Friday?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Or is it next Friday?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I know this is a wide release film.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think so. Isn't it The Librarian?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Have I heard of it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Is it Nicole Kidman in that? Or no? I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't know who's in The Librarians?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Oh, it's part of is it part of a trilogy?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I missed the other one?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
What is he talking about?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I heard a movie called The Library the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
There was one from like last summer.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
No, no, look upcoming movies, look up?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I ask this is Isn't this more of a documentary? Though?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm sorry? Is that not a movie?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But I don't. In my head I was thinking. That's
why I said, Oh, is Nicole Kidman in it?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know. She becauds. She's allowed to do documentaries. Listen.
I can't help it that I'm a well watched movie goer.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
What about about America's war on books?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Thank you? Nine one, It's a weird number two. God,
(14:53):
I hope it's dirty.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Dial a poem. Juliana Huxtable.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh wait, Juliana Valencia. Hold on, I think that was live.
No way, yeah, no, there's no there's no way.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I'm telling you there was something about it that felt wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Really die.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
By the way, I'm not the first person who's hung
up on him.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
More time than even Cat.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I got through Huxtable, Juliana Huxtable, and in my head
all I'm hearing is Valencia.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That was great. Okay, I'm gonna try again. I'm gonna
try dial the poem.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But should you say hello to Alan coming? That's him?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It sounded like what's he wearing here?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I go, okay, Please also show some class in case
the guy is alive.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Hello, dial a poem. Hello, My name is bat and Sad,
and I would be reading a short story titled bors
Hello one of the men.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
The language, I don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's about soon.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I understand that Hello. Ov Elliott doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Know this language English understood.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Without letting onto it, she thought to turn around and
give him the stage to voice his question, but she
would continued.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's not going to be the same audio. I don't
know what language he speaks.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Flanders.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Seriously, that was when I guess Simpsons for TV shows
of every decade.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right, hold tight, not the same guy if it
goes back to feeling hunstable or what?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
What was? I'm pissed?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Dial a poem.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
This is Benjamin cruising. I'm reading I was on the
bus at home lacking reason. Hold on second, sir, the
air is red in the out particulate.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
This is butthole, buttle.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Wrong is over determined. Then the sun bleeds golden tyme.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't like him, Okay, I do like the way
that they are. I'll talk to say, dial poem. Okay,
So are we are we leaning towards it being recorded?
Can we actually take one in then, as long as
it's in English and we have the ability to censor it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yes, I've been I'm sitting right here.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I know, but I really thought that guy hesitated when
I said sir. So did Kristians. So this one we
we do think we're gonna call. We're anticipating it being
a recorded poem, but we.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Can we agree we wanted to be somebody like I
don't want like Hi, it's Brian Jones, like I want
somebody with like a little oomph to their name.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
You're right, Oh, you want a famous poet.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, you don't think I'm gonna this is Bill Shakespeare like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm not getting that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, But I give me like a like a like
a Juliana person.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think I hit that wrong.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
This person of belive.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Dial a poem.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
This is Gee Gonzalez. Was she known to order? I
opened my mouth enormative conveyance act the a of mores,
and I wanted so badly to ask of you in
a spectacle of indignation, euphemism, decorum's filigree. You you're speaking,
(20:00):
invoked in me a desire to speak my place a
fixed point. I spoke broaching a distance. I spoke to you,
who blinked idly away. My speaking in unpartnered speech cut
a line of desire through ordinary air. I regard you
(20:23):
speaking the why of erudite. I speak in an opportune moment,
A hedging sound made of mouth, all hesitance, affect, excruciating.
My point was not necessarily made to it slowly and
(20:45):
gradually to this word, all of a sonic word, A
normal pronunciation of this word, to allow even just a
tiny part of it to sound and eighty mouth actions
for grounding naive forms. We converse. You take it well,
(21:10):
the a of Timber. You regard me as I regard you.
What I spoke from my place, a fixed point, a placeholder.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
How did you hang out?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Eh?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
She out?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I'm sure she's very nice. She doesn't seem like a
fun hang.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
The person reading the poem is the poet.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Now, the A of Timber.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm the only one that was okay, I was the
A of Elliott. Oh do we have to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Danny olymp MacDonald had fun?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
No, Dan, come on, is this how your classmates felt like?
I was very distracted by your like rump thing over there.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Probably we didn't know whether it was his stomach who
made the noise or hers.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It was hers.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That was not my stump, Diane, if you knew what
I ate today, there's no way my stomach is growling.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Should we do one more?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I can't sit through the whole thing if it's like that,
this this, I'm back in class looking around going like,
oh my god, why am I in here?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I think we give it a go.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I also didn't like you wanted to discuss what came like,
what we got out of it?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'll be honest, I.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Don't even remember other than the a of timber, I
don't remember a word she said mouth.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I did think it might go sexual, and it may
have just went over our head. One more time. Oh
my god, are we still on? Are they still there? Sorry, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
One were time?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
But you can if you're bored, you can cut it off, okay,
but no, hold on, hold on. But if we're finding
ourselves interested and intrigue, we have to go through to
the end.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
Promise, dial a poem.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I'm run pageant and I'm going to read a poem
of mine called Butterfly.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You ever heard of him?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's a poet of my poem of mine.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Sorry, mister Paget, you don't like butterflies, that's why. Come on.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You don't know who this guy is. That was the
one live one.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He's like, oh my god, I didn't even get to
start my beautiful poem.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But you didn't even give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Dial a poem, and.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That says more about you than it does about his art.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm glad he's on there. I'm glad he's on there,
all right.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
He is a Frost Medal winner from the poet Or
Society of America.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Who would like to comment, Danny Chang, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
No, I should have guessed when I gave you the
option to bail, you were gonna take it before even.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
The first time I did. This is Robert Bail.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
That wasn't his name. It was Ron Paget.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's not dirty, is it long? Longer? Longer than i'd go.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
But whether it's Ron Paget or Gia Gonzalez who at
least we got to hear through to the end.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sorry, that's my fault.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You don't want to If people are especially young, impressionable
kids in school, finding themselves drawn to this form, you
don't want to discourage them.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, Hey, if you like poems, go do it.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Man,
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