November 5, 2025 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tom Brady. Yeah, why does it bother me? Why does
it bother me?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I mean the cloning. I mean, do you not like it?
Because it's like you're kind of playing god or no.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
No am I you know what, I almost feel like
a hypocrite.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I almost feel like a hippop.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Because wouldn't you given the chance, wouldn't you have cloned Moulson?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Absolutely not, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So the story isn't it was all over the place yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Tom Brady came out and said, there, what is his
dog's name?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The original dog?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The original dog was Lua, I think yeah, And it
was he and Giselle Bunching.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
They used to be married. They had a dog named Lua,
and he loved the dog. I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm right there with him. Not not for Lua, but
people love their dogs, people love their pets. And so
when Lua was dying, one of the last things they
did is they drew blood from the dog. And they
went to some cloning company that he's an investor in.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, this was part of a press conference.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, so he's an And that's fine. You can invest
in whatever you want to invest in. I don't care
about that. And they cloned Lua to become a new dog.
What's the new dog's name? Ju Juny Juny Right, and
so now his new dog is a clone of his
old dog.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
But who's Fluffy? I feel like Fluffy kept coming up
yesterday too.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, is that one of the Is that one of
the other famous dogs that they've done.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
No, Tom Brady is photographed with Juny and Fluffy. Oh
did they Fluffy's not a clone of anything.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I only saw the one about the the Lua being cloned.
That's the only one that I saw. Do they have
two dogs? Do they have Juny? And then Fluffy was
just another dog that they had.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It must be that's see, it's a terrier they got
in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh so it's just the second doll.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
So that has nothing to do with what is it,
colossal biosciences?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, whatever it is. Why, well, I'm a complete hypocrite.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Why do you keep saying that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Because like, whenever you hear like they want to recreate
like the wooly mammoth or like the Dodo bird, I
get all excited and it's probably not safe to have
wooly mammoths. Well maybe it is running around somewhere, like
those are big massive animals. I'll be honest, I don't
care so much about the Dodo bird. But didn't we
just talk about didn't they just do? Like the wolves? Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And there I can't read like the the White Wolves
or something dire Wolves, dire Wolves? What TV show are
they from? Breaking bad?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Game of Thrones?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Game of Thrones?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Why do I think it's breaking bad? Whatever doesn't matter,
doesn't matter the so like when when when there's all
the talk about like the wooly mammoth, Yeah, like that's
pretty cool, like to be able to bring one of
those back based on being able to pull some DNA
or something out of whatever they found, Like that's kind
of cool.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
But you don't want the technology. And I know this
is going to sound ridiculous because it's Tom Brady, but
you don't want the average person having access to this science.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know if it's that. I don't know if
it's that.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And then then I tried to figure out, well, like,
let me back up for a second, let me back
up for a second. Is listen, I love Moulson with
everything I had, Right, I've loved every one of my dogs,
Goose Molson, Vesy, Clancy, all of them, all of Bower.
(03:48):
Nobody loves dogs more than I do. I would never
clone one of them. I would never clone one of them.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And what because the coiler are you standing on to
be so certain that that would never even interest you?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Because they're like each one of them by themselves is
so special, Like you can't.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
You can't be favoring one of your many dogs over
time for this next new dog.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, I don't think I would have ever gotten another
dog if I would have just cloned Moulson. I don't
know that was my first one, But that would I
ever get another dog?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Is that why now you're saying but you feel bad? No, no, no,
lighting you're every one. You didn't choose to clone, you
feel like you were slighter.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, not that, because they you know, they said I
when we got when we got Bower, and because remember
that dog, we were just like it was being thrown away,
so we were like, bring it over and then the woman,
the crazy lady, never came and picked it up. We
were all gonna look after it for a night. And
in my head I was like, I will never I
guess I had deuce. I had already gotten deuced whatever.
But I was like, I'll never love a dog like
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I love Moulson. Not true, not true. So it's not
that I don't think I would ever not love a
clone dog.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
At what point would you stop calling it a clone dog?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But that's what it is. It's a clone dog. It's
not even real. It's not even real.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's a clone.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's not like a humanoid pet.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, it's not like I am Junie. I am clone
of lua.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Ai pet that was a Cassio creating.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh Tomagotchi, Moflin, Moflin, I am Moflin.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I am speaking.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Never going away.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, but you know what I mean, And I don't
know why. I don't know why, and I love my dog.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Do you not trust the science? Do you think that
it could?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It works?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
They have, I guess because did they acquire a company
that had worked with Barbara streisand yeah, and like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, Paris Hilton gotten clone dogs and Barbara Streisi and
got clone dogs.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Dolly was clone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What's the what's the the Is there a cost estimate
on what it costs now versussive? Yeah, of course it is.
I mean it's an unnecessary expense. That's why you've got
people like Tom Brady doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, but you know what you say, an unnecessary expense.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't know how much it is, but let's say
is it five thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No way?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Articles said yesterday how much it was.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
How much?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Multiply it by ten fifty.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, fifty grand, Yes, that's a lot. Yeah, Okay, let's cut.
Let's say twenty grand.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Let's say shelters wave fees weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Because because it's like, oh damn, it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Dollars, Let's say let's say twenty grand. Let's say twenty grand?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right? Would would? I mean? That's still the what is
the number where most people go? I can't. I can't say,
my pet, what is that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No, that people are willing to spend?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah on sergain five grand.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That's more than five grand.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
When we were at the Veternory Hospital with Thompson, I
heard a couple walk away from an animal that was
much less than five grand.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, no, no, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I understand that you do what you can, you do
what you can, But I guess the point I was
trying to make is you do what you can, but
you are willing to push beyond what you normally if
it was if it was five hundred, if you were like,
I can't spend more than five hundred, but the vetech
came back and said it's six hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You might push yourself to six.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If it was five grand, and you were like, ugh,
And if you were in your head, you were like,
I can't pay any more than five grand, And they
came back and said it's six. You might find a
way to push yourself a little beyond the out of
bounds line if you will like that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
That's the number I'm looking for. And it's different for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So if they came back and they were like, hey, listen,
Moulson's gonna die, right, He's gonna drop dead, but we
can clone him. It's five grand for to save Moulson
or seven grand to clone him, and who'll be alive forever?
I think I would I think I would go I'll
pay the five grand to try to save the dog,
even though I'm not he's not gonna make it, versus
(08:06):
the seven grand for a brand new fresh Mulson.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But that also kind of comes out of you being
against the idea of clone.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I don't think I'm against it because I like
when they when they talk about the wooly mammoth.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I get all excited. Now I do, and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'd like I I remember the story about about Paris
Hilton and her dog that ran away or something. I
didn't know Barber Streisan. I've heard of Dolly the Sheep, obviously,
what were these? I love that dire Woolf story.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I don't remember the Paris Hilton story.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Did her dog run away?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Was it that one was taken by a coyote?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Which is which is the one where like somebody stole
their dogs.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was like a whole big it was a celebrity.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I was Lady Gaga.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, not that story.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
The remember the walker was shot shot?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right? Was that real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
The no, it just says diamond baby did go miss
for Paris Hilton.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, just ran away. So she was like clowns.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
But she had stem cells preserved, because I was wondering
if it's gone, how you have DNA information?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
She had already drawn blood.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
No one was spade. She saved stem cells free. Well
isn't that for treatments down the line?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
We Spade, Clancy, I don't have any of her stem cells. Sorry,
you're gonna die, bitch, because.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You were an average dog owner.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is Paris Hilton, Okay, but still, I mean people
saved like umbilical cord stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Oh so she created two dogs? Ooh, Diamond and baby.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh so she lost Diamond baby but then had Diamond
and Baby.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
God, I don't remember that at all. No, because we
were in the middle of the pandemic. Maybe when did
streisand do it?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't know, but I know the pandemic is what
drew Nia out of here? What Nia Earl promotions director?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, not ours, but no, but she worked in the Yeah,
she left her in the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Barbara has two clone dogs also, yeah, so do you
have to get pairs?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Miss Violet and Miss Scarlet are clones?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Was the original dog, Violet Scarlet the cells of their
late dog, Samantha, who died in twenty seventeen. So can
I ask this is it? Does this bother anybody else?
Like I saw this yesterday. I was very triggered by it,
But I don't know if it's and I don't know why,
and I feel hypocritical. Oh so what I was gonna
(10:29):
say is I tried to reposition the story. What do
you mean if all the headlines were Gizell bunching No,
because it was her gown too, Gazelle Bunching cloned her dog?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would I be triggered? The same? Is it? Is it?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Because it doesn't matter that it's Brady, That doesn't.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's just rare. It's more people dis rich people's stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I know, but we see rich people's stuff all
the time. We see rich people's stuff all the time.
Every day. It's they're selling.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A house for fifty five million dollars and so and
so bought it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But it's like, there are plenty of rich people in
the world.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
But this isn't just property.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
This is like a special subset of that where it's
like my law dogs.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are pop property.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, that's true, but it's like like to me, to me,
it's like the housewives who have like customized sized ice
cubes and stuff. It's like the average person's not going
to care about that. But I like to see heatherdo
bro do that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Would you clone one of your cats?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Would you clone unnecessary expense pretending that that you could
afford it, pretending that you could afford it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
None of us are Tom Brady, but you can afford it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either, And I'm putting side
the clear the shelters argument. I'm put like I'm I'm
against readers, so I'm definitely against cloners. But I'm putting
all that aside.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I I for the cloning process. What I want to
know is for every Violet and Scarlet and Diamond and
Baby and juny, how many mishaps were there in attempting
to clone those former pets? Where are there animals? I
mean the answer is yes, yeah, not not just in
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the research of all this, but for those three celebrities.
How many?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
How many rich people is in those three?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
How many times they got it wrong?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How many? How many?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
What is? What is? What is? What is uh?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Brady's clone dog's name? Why can't I remember that you
got one?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How many?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
How many cloned cats?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No? No, no, no, no, I mean yours had seizures?
The No?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
How many dead Junis are there before we got to
the living JUNI?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah it has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Are we guessing?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I wouldn't know where to start, but six? So are there?
Are they creating animals whose life is short and full
of suffering hayful, Yeah, yes, I think there is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I mean you're they're not three, they're not five
for five.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Because what happens they like they have to take a
donor egg remove it's no, I thought they just use blood.
Well yeah, but they take the genetic information from the
dog that's passing or passed, put it in a donor egg,
replacing whatever information was in that. And then don't they
trick it into thinking it's been fertilized like a splash pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How did they trick it?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Do they shake it?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They're no, like a three game money. Oh so like
they spin it or.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Do they they do something to it? Right? Uh? They
don't set it on fire? Why do I I'm lecturing
it it's on fire.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
They would that would destroy it. That's how they lost
the first three. They were like, how do we get
Junie set on fire?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Lost? The lost the cops.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Something is done to it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But do you think that they're that those dogs are
dead before they're born?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I definitely bet they're not viable embryo.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah no, But you're saying like there's dogs that come
out and then they're like, well, hey, don't think don't
don't put breakfast in the bowl like they're they're done.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Probably, Yeah, you got to. I mean research takes time.
M hm, no way.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Line one. Would it be funny if it was Tom.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Brady, Kevin Burkhart, Kevin Burkhart got all the deformed dogs? Hi?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Elliott in the morning? Yeah, Hi, who's that?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Good? Where are you calling me from Georgia?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Very good? And what can I do for you?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I actually I had a off the dog and he
died suddenly in twenty twenty, and I had been looking
at vigin for a while and when he died suddenly,
you can actually get it expedited. They send you a
kit and they take a bunch of samples, well the
vet does. I work at a vet, so that helped
a lot. It is sixteen hundred dollars for the kit
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and they take samples from their ear, their mouth, and
a bunch of other spots in their body. Then you
send it back to them and then they hold your
dog on ice until you feel like you would like
your dog cloned.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh is that that's like Ted williams Head?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Yeah kind of yeah, No, I'm being.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Serious, that's like Ted williams Head.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
She just confirmed the fifty thousand, right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, she said it was sixteen hundred for the kid.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, so it's sixteen hundred for the kid and then
fifty grand for the actual cloning of the dog. And
what you do is when you actually decide that you
would like your dog loone, they find a female dog
and then they just basically artificially inseminate that female dog.
And that's how you get your puppy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, so let me ask you a couple of things.
So your dog, I'm sorry you lost your dog. I'm
sorry you lost your dog. And then you did the
you you you got the kid right? And the company
you mentioned that biagen that's Tom that's the Tom Brady company.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Oh is it? I was unaware of that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
They acquired, Oh they acquired Oh okay, okay, whatever?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Whatever do They usually do like a lot of bovine
like they do a lot of like cows and horses
that are show horses, like a lot of people will
like to clone them. But they also started doing dogs
and cats. And your dog will come back looking exactly
like your other dog, but it might not be the same.
So that's why I have yet to clone a little
(16:48):
dude because it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Might not be the same because of like that sixth
leg personality wise maybe wise.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Correct, yes, because there's a family in England that has
cloned three of their Yorkies and not one of them
is like they're originally Yorky.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What if they're clone? By the way, I'm writing movies today.
Remember I'm doing a serial killer at an amusement park.
Now I'm doing clone dogs that turn on you and
kill you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They come back as coo jack.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Absolutely, hey, so so so go back to go back
to your dog, right, so they they you you gave
you did all this stuff on the kid, your dog,
your dog?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
When did your dog die?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
A little dude died November sixth, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Has your dog been laying on you? Has your dog
been laid I'm sorry about that. Has your dog been
laying on ice for five years?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
So he personally is not I have his cremaines. They
just take simple samples of like pieces of parts of
his body, so like they take pieces of his ear.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Oh, the parts for the kid, the parts for the kid.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Correct, correct, So they just take so that that lab
isn't filled with like stacks and stacks of frozen dogs.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
No, full of stacks and stacks of frozen tubes.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So so, but your dog, little dudes cells are at
that lab, correct.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
And they are all viable cells.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Would you ever do they do like them?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
When I have I would, but they do have to
do it like if they die, because he sadly was dead,
so they have only a certain amount of hours to
actually get the cells. So sometimes if you do have
a dead dog, you can actually pay for the kids.
And the dogs might not be viable, the cells might
not be viable. So they sent me two kids, and
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they sent me one of them for free because I
did not pay for two.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If if the cells aren't viable, do you get a
refund on that kid?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
You know, I never asked, but probably they actually apply,
like they're very good people. They will apply the sixteen
to the fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Grand rent zone.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey, it's one.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Hundred dollars a year. It's only one hundred and fifty
dollars a year to keep them on ice. Got so
every time around, like Christmas time, I have to pay
that one fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So but here's but so so sorry family. This gives me,
this gives me something else.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Though, if the personality is different, and you don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Dog they like made it with, right, like the egg thing?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Correct, So aren't you getting like so instead of getting
like Lua or Juni or whatever you're getting? And I
know I know that that it's a like a pit
bull mix. You're getting pit bull mixed. But what is
the other dog he could get like pitbull and poodle.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I don't want that, you know, I honestly don't know
how that works, how they actually do all that. I
need to look into that more. But it is your dog,
like it's not another male dog or anything like that.
It is your dog that they are officially insummate into
that female dog. And then you're like, when you get
your dog, your dog looks exactly like the dog you have,
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like exactly everything.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Isn't isn't part of it?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And maybe this is where maybe this is where I
go south right is And by the way, I'm not
mad at you for doing it, not at all. The no, no,
but here's maybe where I and I told Jo, I'm
a hypocrite, like I want wooly mammoths. The is it's
so the personality is different, right, And I always thought
I'd never loved a dog, like, I love that, but
(20:24):
I but I love the dogs, right, I've loved every
one of my dogs.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, but if my but if if Molson came back
and was like just a.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Real a hole, but I still yeah, that's why I
still love the dog. And would I be like fifty
grand I paid to hate you.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
I know, and I hate saying that, but I do
worry about that. But I'm also in rescue. And if
my rescue people found out that I like, spent fifty
grand on a dog when there's like all these dogs
sitting in shelters, roddy, yeah, no, that wouldn't be Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, that's neither here nor there. That's neither here and
they're there.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Well, it does make I think of my first question,
how much was the lottery jackpot you wanted?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's no, but she she's only sixteen hundred plus one
hundred and fifty a year in the hole, which is
still that's still a.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Lot of money.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It doesn't get anything done, right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, no, not true, not true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It does keep it on eyes serves a chance and
you still you have no idea if you can I
ask you this, if you want, if you if you
wanted to pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Do you have the money to do it?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I could get the money, yes, okay, I can get the.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Money too if I rob a bank. But like you could,
you could get it done.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
No, I am no, I'm not like a rich person.
I could just be like, oh, here's fifty grand, No
big deal.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No right, I gotcha. I got youa a little all right,
Well listen, here's what I want to do. I want
to stay in touch with you for whenever. You just
you're the Georgia Dog clone lady. I just I'm something
catchy like that. All right, very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's it's it's right at like the the anniversary too,
she said, November.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Sixth of the Dog's Dad.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I'm I think that's just happenstance. I don't think
they only clone in November.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Oh, I'm just saying, it's just interesting that it's you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Know, comes out at the same time as Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah. Barbara streisand I guess has been very public about
her dogs having different personalities, even though they were. She
didn't get into the oh to the details.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I feel like I'm I'm very hypocritical though, that's how
you started. And I and I try to decide do
I hate it because like, I don't in my head,
I'm not like Ugh Barbara streisand or Paris Hilden.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Why do I have that reaction to Tom Brady? And
I don't hate Tom Brady?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have any issue with it
because of who did it, or that he's an investor
in the company.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, I mean, god blass, I wish I was an investor.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
People spending fifty grand.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She said, there's people who got like three of them
done one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on your keys,
and I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Even like those dogs. Hi, Ellie of the morning, Good morning. Hi.
Who's this Hi?
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's this current from Michigan. How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I am well, thank you. Where in Michigan are you?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I'm in Clarkston, so like in hour north of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I got you very good. Red weeds are having a
pretty good season. That's not why you called. Anyway, Yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I was telling Kristin I have a seven year old
pit mix and in the last seven years we have
spent almost eighteen thousand dollars in surgery. It's not him
not cloning him, but just just surgery.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
No, listen, I get it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And I'm sure that you didn't have eighteen thousand dollars
just put aside for surgery, but I'm sure it was
that amount where you were like, let doesn't just want surgery,
but where you're like, let's just push out, let's push
the out of bounds line a little.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Bit, right.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Yeah, it was five different surgeries across like I think
six years. But yeah, I mean that's my baby, Like
you know, anytime something happened and they told me the price,
I'm obviously gonna do it. But I just don't think
I would clone him. I love him so much, but
I would just be worried he wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The same dog.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, well it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean, Barbara streisand taught us that, Hey what is then?
Can I ask you this though, and I'm not I'm
not I'm not saying this to be mean to you,
but if your dog, if your dog was like, I
don't know what the surgeries for. Were they just like
like torn acls and stuff or did they have like
something wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, he tore both of his acls and then he
had swallowed like part of a rope toy. So that
was like on a Christmas Eve, like an emergency surgery.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
To get that.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Out, he tore one of his nails out at the base,
so they had to fix that. And then actually both
of his acl or both of his knees started to
reject the place and the screws here for the sale surgery,
so we have to get those out there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, no, okay, but I guess my question was, hey,
I appreciate it, thank you, ma'am, thank you. Is if
your dog, let's say, like molt in dieted cancer, right,
would you not be able to clone it?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like, I'm not cloning cancer just to get cancer again.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Can you clone a dog if it's sick? Now, there
are still some oh, there is still some healthy cellular information.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Healthy I mean, I don't know how rampant it's run
through the body. But I'm sure you could listen. Yesterday
we found invisible sperm. I'm sure today we could find
healthy cells.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
So you can clone it, but you have to understand
it may be predisposed.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now, yeah, so you're so your clone dog if it
if it takes is going to have a shortened life.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Could I'm out? And for that reason, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Thanks Mark Cuban.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, I got so into it yesterday, but I got
very angry at myself.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
And someone answered the question, uh, you if it.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Were Giselle, would I feel better about it now?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But you said, well, what is the embryo donor embryo
or donor egg?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
You said, how would that affect the breed? I guess
they've removed the nucleus so it has no play.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh, that's right, and the geneticus. That makes sense. I
should have been able to think of that on my own.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I guess Dolly the.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Sheep, the sheep, Dolly the sheep dead.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Kick this all off. Dolly was one kind of sheep,
but the donor egg was a black face sheep, so
it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
They sent it over.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Is that what they're doing with the breaking bad Wolves?
Because you're not putting it into another dire wolf.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
You're talking about Game of Thrones?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah? Whatever, people know?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Did they when Dolly died? Did they clone her again?
Are the multiple dollies?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't know. I know how you greet it? No?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Now there were out here's here's the answer. Now, I
know this was a long time ago. It was Dolly
like nineties, mid nineties. Yeah, it took two hundred and
seventy seven attempts to clone Dolly.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh my god, how many dead juniors are there now?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
How many nine embryos were created? But only one Dolly survived?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So that was it one and done.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
So he wanted to know if they then cloned Dolly
when she died in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Did Dolly look like a normal sheet or you know,
did it have like one of those like gurgo plexen
leg coming out of its head?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
No, we gave those to KB. Dolly's body was preserved
and donated to the National Museum of Scotland, where it
has been regularly exhibited since two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Now, Dolly had progressive lung disease.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Oh, get in line.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
They said, there's no link to the disease and the cloning.
But maybe they didn't clone Dolly because of the disease.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Because of the disease, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I don't see anything about a future breed of Dollar.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh here's the Dolly exhibit.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh it's in Pigeon Forge.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, it's very well preserved.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Dolly did have offspring though, Oh oh, Bonnie, Sally, Rosie
and triplets Lucy, Darcy and Cotton. And by the way,
I did not know this until reading it just now.
You're laughing about Dolly Parton. That's why they named the
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sheep Dolly.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
That's what it says.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Because of like did the did the dear.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Oh my god. Ian Wilmot, who was the embryologist right,
said of Dolly's name, Dolly the sheep is derived from
a mammary gland cell and we couldn't think of a
more impressive pair of glands than Dolly Parton's.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Backup name was tits McGee.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Science.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, that's cool that that's an embryologist with a sense
of humor.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I know Dolly's a female, but we're gonna keep the
patriarchy alive through this research in this development.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
How disturbing is that? What a compliment?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Did Dolly pardon ever comment on that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Hey, so we're gonna name this, We're gonna name we're
doing human cloning. We're gonna name this this animal pen
because it was taken from uh cells of a penis,
and we think of Elliot.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'd be I'd be thrilled, I would be honored.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
She was flattered.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Did you see her quote? She said, uh, you know
when the scientists cloned Dolly the Sheep, they use the
memory glands. That's what they call them, glands, the boobs.
Everybody always played up to these points to her chest.
So that's why we had Dolly the Sheep. I was
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sorry when she died, though, I don't want to be
cloned myself
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Okay, Duly noted
Tom Brady. Yeah, why does it bother me? Why does
it bother me?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I mean the cloning. I mean, do you not like it?
Because it's like you're kind of playing god or no.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
No am I you know what, I almost feel like
a hypocrite.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I almost feel like a hippop.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Because wouldn't you given the chance, wouldn't you have cloned Moulson?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Absolutely not, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
So the story isn't it was all over the place yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Tom Brady came out and said, there, what is his
dog's name?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The original dog?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
The original dog was Lua, I think yeah, And it
was he and Giselle Bunching.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
They used to be married. They had a dog named Lua,
and he loved the dog. I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm right there with him. Not not for Lua, but
people love their dogs, people love their pets. And so
when Lua was dying, one of the last things they
did is they drew blood from the dog. And they
went to some cloning company that he's an investor in.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, this was part of a press conference.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, so he's an And that's fine. You can invest
in whatever you want to invest in. I don't care
about that. And they cloned Lua to become a new dog.
What's the new dog's name? Ju Juny Juny Right, and
so now his new dog is a clone of his
old dog.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
But who's Fluffy? I feel like Fluffy kept coming up
yesterday too.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, is that one of the Is that one of
the other famous dogs that they've done.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
No, Tom Brady is photographed with Juny and Fluffy. Oh
did they Fluffy's not a clone of anything.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I only saw the one about the the Lua being cloned.
That's the only one that I saw. Do they have
two dogs? Do they have Juny? And then Fluffy was
just another dog that they had.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
It must be that's see, it's a terrier they got
in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh so it's just the second doll.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
So that has nothing to do with what is it,
colossal biosciences?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, whatever it is. Why, well, I'm a complete hypocrite.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Why do you keep saying that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Because like, whenever you hear like they want to recreate
like the wooly mammoth or like the Dodo bird, I
get all excited and it's probably not safe to have
wooly mammoths. Well maybe it is running around somewhere, like
those are big massive animals. I'll be honest, I don't
care so much about the Dodo bird. But didn't we
just talk about didn't they just do? Like the wolves? Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And there I can't read like the the White Wolves
or something dire Wolves, dire Wolves? What TV show are
they from? Breaking bad?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Game of Thrones?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Game of Thrones?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Why do I think it's breaking bad? Whatever doesn't matter,
doesn't matter the so like when when when there's all
the talk about like the wooly mammoth, Yeah, like that's
pretty cool, like to be able to bring one of
those back based on being able to pull some DNA
or something out of whatever they found, Like that's kind
of cool.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
But you don't want the technology. And I know this
is going to sound ridiculous because it's Tom Brady, but
you don't want the average person having access to this science.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't know if it's that. I don't know if
it's that.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And then then I tried to figure out, well, like,
let me back up for a second, let me back
up for a second. Is listen, I love Moulson with
everything I had, Right, I've loved every one of my dogs,
Goose Molson, Vesy, Clancy, all of them, all of Bower.
(03:48):
Nobody loves dogs more than I do. I would never
clone one of them. I would never clone one of them.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And what because the coiler are you standing on to
be so certain that that would never even interest you?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Because they're like each one of them by themselves is
so special, Like you can't.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
You can't be favoring one of your many dogs over
time for this next new dog.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, I don't think I would have ever gotten another
dog if I would have just cloned Moulson. I don't
know that was my first one, But that would I
ever get another dog?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Is that why now you're saying but you feel bad? No, no, no,
lighting you're every one. You didn't choose to clone, you
feel like you were slighter.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, not that, because they you know, they said I
when we got when we got Bower, and because remember
that dog, we were just like it was being thrown away,
so we were like, bring it over and then the woman,
the crazy lady, never came and picked it up. We
were all gonna look after it for a night. And
in my head I was like, I will never I
guess I had deuce. I had already gotten deuced whatever.
But I was like, I'll never love a dog like
(04:56):
I love Moulson. Not true, not true. So it's not
that I don't think I would ever not love a
clone dog.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
At what point would you stop calling it a clone dog?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But that's what it is. It's a clone dog. It's
not even real. It's not even real.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It's a clone.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's not like a humanoid pet.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, it's not like I am Junie. I am clone
of lua.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Ai pet that was a Cassio creating.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh Tomagotchi, Moflin, Moflin, I am Moflin.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I am speaking.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Never going away.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, but you know what I mean, And I don't
know why. I don't know why, and I love my dog.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Do you not trust the science? Do you think that
it could?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It works?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
They have, I guess because did they acquire a company
that had worked with Barbara streisand yeah, and like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, Paris Hilton gotten clone dogs and Barbara Streisi and
got clone dogs.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Dolly was clone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
What's the what's the the Is there a cost estimate
on what it costs now versussive? Yeah, of course it is.
I mean it's an unnecessary expense. That's why you've got
people like Tom Brady doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, but you know what you say, an unnecessary expense.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
I don't know how much it is, but let's say
is it five thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No way?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Articles said yesterday how much it was.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
How much?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Multiply it by ten fifty.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, fifty grand, Yes, that's a lot. Yeah, Okay, let's cut.
Let's say twenty grand.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Let's say shelters wave fees weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Because because it's like, oh damn, it's one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Dollars, Let's say let's say twenty grand. Let's say twenty grand?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right? Would would? I mean? That's still the what is
the number where most people go? I can't. I can't say,
my pet, what is that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
No, that people are willing to spend?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah on sergain five grand.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That's more than five grand.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
When we were at the Veternory Hospital with Thompson, I
heard a couple walk away from an animal that was
much less than five grand.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, no, no, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I understand that you do what you can, you do
what you can, But I guess the point I was
trying to make is you do what you can, but
you are willing to push beyond what you normally if
it was if it was five hundred, if you were like,
I can't spend more than five hundred, but the vetech
came back and said it's six hundred.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You might push yourself to six.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If it was five grand, and you were like, ugh,
And if you were in your head, you were like,
I can't pay any more than five grand, And they
came back and said it's six. You might find a
way to push yourself a little beyond the out of
bounds line if you will like that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
That's the number I'm looking for. And it's different for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So if they came back and they were like, hey, listen,
Moulson's gonna die, right, He's gonna drop dead, but we
can clone him. It's five grand for to save Moulson
or seven grand to clone him, and who'll be alive forever?
I think I would I think I would go I'll
pay the five grand to try to save the dog,
even though I'm not he's not gonna make it, versus
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the seven grand for a brand new fresh Mulson.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But that also kind of comes out of you being
against the idea of clone.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I don't think I'm against it because I like
when they when they talk about the wooly mammoth.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I get all excited. Now I do, and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'd like I I remember the story about about Paris
Hilton and her dog that ran away or something. I
didn't know Barber Streisan. I've heard of Dolly the Sheep, obviously,
what were these? I love that dire Woolf story.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I don't remember the Paris Hilton story.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Did her dog run away?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Was it that one was taken by a coyote?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Which is which is the one where like somebody stole
their dogs.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was like a whole big it was a celebrity.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I was Lady Gaga.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, not that story.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
The remember the walker was shot shot?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right? Was that real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
The no, it just says diamond baby did go miss
for Paris Hilton.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, just ran away. So she was like clowns.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
But she had stem cells preserved, because I was wondering
if it's gone, how you have DNA information?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
She had already drawn blood.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
No one was spade. She saved stem cells free. Well
isn't that for treatments down the line?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
We Spade, Clancy, I don't have any of her stem cells. Sorry,
you're gonna die, bitch, because.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You were an average dog owner.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is Paris Hilton, Okay, but still, I mean people
saved like umbilical cord stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Oh so she created two dogs? Ooh, Diamond and baby.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh so she lost Diamond baby but then had Diamond
and Baby.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
God, I don't remember that at all. No, because we
were in the middle of the pandemic. Maybe when did
streisand do it?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't know, but I know the pandemic is what
drew Nia out of here? What Nia Earl promotions director?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, not ours, but no, but she worked in the Yeah,
she left her in the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Barbara has two clone dogs also, yeah, so do you
have to get pairs?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Miss Violet and Miss Scarlet are clones?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Was the original dog, Violet Scarlet the cells of their
late dog, Samantha, who died in twenty seventeen. So can
I ask this is it? Does this bother anybody else?
Like I saw this yesterday. I was very triggered by it,
But I don't know if it's and I don't know why,
and I feel hypocritical. Oh so what I was gonna
(10:29):
say is I tried to reposition the story. What do
you mean if all the headlines were Gizell bunching No,
because it was her gown too, Gazelle Bunching cloned her dog?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Would I be triggered? The same? Is it? Is it?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Because it doesn't matter that it's Brady, That doesn't.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's just rare. It's more people dis rich people's stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I know, but we see rich people's stuff all
the time. We see rich people's stuff all the time.
Every day. It's they're selling.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
A house for fifty five million dollars and so and
so bought it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But it's like, there are plenty of rich people in
the world.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
But this isn't just property.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
This is like a special subset of that where it's
like my law dogs.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are pop property.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Okay, that's true, but it's like like to me, to me,
it's like the housewives who have like customized sized ice
cubes and stuff. It's like the average person's not going
to care about that. But I like to see heatherdo
bro do that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Would you clone one of your cats?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Would you clone unnecessary expense pretending that that you could
afford it, pretending that you could afford it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
None of us are Tom Brady, but you can afford it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't either, And I'm putting side
the clear the shelters argument. I'm put like I'm I'm
against readers, so I'm definitely against cloners. But I'm putting
all that aside.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I I for the cloning process. What I want to
know is for every Violet and Scarlet and Diamond and
Baby and juny, how many mishaps were there in attempting
to clone those former pets? Where are there animals? I
mean the answer is yes, yeah, not not just in
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the research of all this, but for those three celebrities.
How many?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
How many rich people is in those three?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
How many times they got it wrong?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How many? How many?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
What is? What is? What is? What is uh?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Brady's clone dog's name? Why can't I remember that you
got one?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How many?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
How many cloned cats?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No? No, no, no, no, I mean yours had seizures?
The No?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
How many dead Junis are there before we got to
the living JUNI?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah it has to be.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Are we guessing?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I wouldn't know where to start, but six? So are there?
Are they creating animals whose life is short and full
of suffering hayful, Yeah, yes, I think there is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, I mean you're they're not three, they're not five
for five.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Because what happens they like they have to take a
donor egg remove it's no, I thought they just use blood.
Well yeah, but they take the genetic information from the
dog that's passing or passed, put it in a donor egg,
replacing whatever information was in that. And then don't they
trick it into thinking it's been fertilized like a splash pregnancy.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
How did they trick it?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Do they shake it?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They're no, like a three game money. Oh so like
they spin it or.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Do they they do something to it? Right? Uh? They
don't set it on fire? Why do I I'm lecturing
it it's on fire.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
They would that would destroy it. That's how they lost
the first three. They were like, how do we get
Junie set on fire?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Lost? The lost the cops.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Something is done to it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But do you think that they're that those dogs are
dead before they're born?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I definitely bet they're not viable embryo.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah no, But you're saying like there's dogs that come
out and then they're like, well, hey, don't think don't
don't put breakfast in the bowl like they're they're done.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Probably, Yeah, you got to. I mean research takes time.
M hm, no way.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Line one. Would it be funny if it was Tom.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Brady, Kevin Burkhart, Kevin Burkhart got all the deformed dogs? Hi?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Elliott in the morning? Yeah, Hi, who's that?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Good? Where are you calling me from Georgia?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Very good? And what can I do for you?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I actually I had a off the dog and he
died suddenly in twenty twenty, and I had been looking
at vigin for a while and when he died suddenly,
you can actually get it expedited. They send you a
kit and they take a bunch of samples, well the
vet does. I work at a vet, so that helped
a lot. It is sixteen hundred dollars for the kit
(15:20):
and they take samples from their ear, their mouth, and
a bunch of other spots in their body. Then you
send it back to them and then they hold your
dog on ice until you feel like you would like
your dog cloned.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh is that that's like Ted williams Head?
Speaker 7 (15:36):
Yeah kind of yeah, No, I'm being.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Serious, that's like Ted williams Head.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
She just confirmed the fifty thousand, right.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, she said it was sixteen hundred for the kid.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, so it's sixteen hundred for the kid and then
fifty grand for the actual cloning of the dog. And
what you do is when you actually decide that you
would like your dog loone, they find a female dog
and then they just basically artificially inseminate that female dog.
And that's how you get your puppy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, so let me ask you a couple of things.
So your dog, I'm sorry you lost your dog. I'm
sorry you lost your dog. And then you did the
you you you got the kid right? And the company
you mentioned that biagen that's Tom that's the Tom Brady company.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Oh is it? I was unaware of that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
They acquired, Oh they acquired Oh okay, okay, whatever?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Whatever do They usually do like a lot of bovine
like they do a lot of like cows and horses
that are show horses, like a lot of people will
like to clone them. But they also started doing dogs
and cats. And your dog will come back looking exactly
like your other dog, but it might not be the same.
So that's why I have yet to clone a little
(16:48):
dude because it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Might not be the same because of like that sixth
leg personality wise maybe wise.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Correct, yes, because there's a family in England that has
cloned three of their Yorkies and not one of them
is like they're originally Yorky.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What if they're clone? By the way, I'm writing movies today.
Remember I'm doing a serial killer at an amusement park.
Now I'm doing clone dogs that turn on you and
kill you.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They come back as coo jack.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Absolutely, hey, so so so go back to go back
to your dog, right, so they they you you gave
you did all this stuff on the kid, your dog,
your dog?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
When did your dog die?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
A little dude died November sixth, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Has your dog been laying on you? Has your dog
been laid I'm sorry about that. Has your dog been
laying on ice for five years?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
So he personally is not I have his cremaines. They
just take simple samples of like pieces of parts of
his body, so like they take pieces of his ear.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Oh, the parts for the kid, the parts for the kid.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Correct, correct, So they just take so that that lab
isn't filled with like stacks and stacks of frozen dogs.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
No, full of stacks and stacks of frozen tubes.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So so, but your dog, little dudes cells are at
that lab, correct.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
And they are all viable cells.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Would you ever do they do like them?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
When I have I would, but they do have to
do it like if they die, because he sadly was dead,
so they have only a certain amount of hours to
actually get the cells. So sometimes if you do have
a dead dog, you can actually pay for the kids.
And the dogs might not be viable, the cells might
not be viable. So they sent me two kids, and
(18:39):
they sent me one of them for free because I
did not pay for two.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If if the cells aren't viable, do you get a
refund on that kid?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
You know, I never asked, but probably they actually apply,
like they're very good people. They will apply the sixteen
to the fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Grand rent zone.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey, it's one.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Hundred dollars a year. It's only one hundred and fifty
dollars a year to keep them on ice. Got so
every time around, like Christmas time, I have to pay
that one fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So but here's but so so sorry family. This gives me,
this gives me something else.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Though, if the personality is different, and you don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Dog they like made it with, right, like the egg thing?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Correct, So aren't you getting like so instead of getting
like Lua or Juni or whatever you're getting? And I
know I know that that it's a like a pit
bull mix. You're getting pit bull mixed. But what is
the other dog he could get like pitbull and poodle.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I don't want that, you know, I honestly don't know
how that works, how they actually do all that. I
need to look into that more. But it is your dog,
like it's not another male dog or anything like that.
It is your dog that they are officially insummate into
that female dog. And then you're like, when you get
your dog, your dog looks exactly like the dog you have,
(20:01):
like exactly everything.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Isn't isn't part of it?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And maybe this is where maybe this is where I
go south right is And by the way, I'm not
mad at you for doing it, not at all. The no, no,
but here's maybe where I and I told Jo, I'm
a hypocrite, like I want wooly mammoths. The is it's
so the personality is different, right, And I always thought
I'd never loved a dog, like, I love that, but
(20:24):
I but I love the dogs, right, I've loved every
one of my dogs.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I still do.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, but if my but if if Molson came back
and was like just a.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Real a hole, but I still yeah, that's why I
still love the dog. And would I be like fifty
grand I paid to hate you.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
I know, and I hate saying that, but I do
worry about that. But I'm also in rescue. And if
my rescue people found out that I like, spent fifty
grand on a dog when there's like all these dogs
sitting in shelters, roddy, yeah, no, that wouldn't be Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, that's neither here nor there. That's neither here and
they're there.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Well, it does make I think of my first question,
how much was the lottery jackpot you wanted?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's no, but she she's only sixteen hundred plus one
hundred and fifty a year in the hole, which is
still that's still a.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Lot of money.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It doesn't get anything done, right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, no, not true, not true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It does keep it on eyes serves a chance and
you still you have no idea if you can I
ask you this, if you want, if you if you
wanted to pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Do you have the money to do it?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
I could get the money, yes, okay, I can get the.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Money too if I rob a bank. But like you could,
you could get it done.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
No, I am no, I'm not like a rich person.
I could just be like, oh, here's fifty grand, No
big deal.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No right, I gotcha. I got youa a little all right,
Well listen, here's what I want to do. I want
to stay in touch with you for whenever. You just
you're the Georgia Dog clone lady. I just I'm something
catchy like that. All right, very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's it's it's right at like the the anniversary too,
she said, November.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Sixth of the Dog's Dad.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I'm I think that's just happenstance. I don't think
they only clone in November.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Oh, I'm just saying, it's just interesting that it's you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Know, comes out at the same time as Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah. Barbara streisand I guess has been very public about
her dogs having different personalities, even though they were. She
didn't get into the oh to the details.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I feel like I'm I'm very hypocritical though, that's how
you started. And I and I try to decide do
I hate it because like, I don't in my head,
I'm not like Ugh Barbara streisand or Paris Hilden.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Why do I have that reaction to Tom Brady? And
I don't hate Tom Brady?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, I don't. I don't have any issue with it
because of who did it, or that he's an investor
in the company.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, I mean, god blass, I wish I was an investor.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
People spending fifty grand.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She said, there's people who got like three of them
done one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on your keys,
and I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Even like those dogs. Hi, Ellie of the morning, Good morning. Hi.
Who's this Hi?
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's this current from Michigan. How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I am well, thank you. Where in Michigan are you?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I'm in Clarkston, so like in hour north of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I got you very good. Red weeds are having a
pretty good season. That's not why you called. Anyway, Yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I was telling Kristin I have a seven year old
pit mix and in the last seven years we have
spent almost eighteen thousand dollars in surgery. It's not him
not cloning him, but just just surgery.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
No, listen, I get it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And I'm sure that you didn't have eighteen thousand dollars
just put aside for surgery, but I'm sure it was
that amount where you were like, let doesn't just want surgery,
but where you're like, let's just push out, let's push
the out of bounds line a little.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Bit, right.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Yeah, it was five different surgeries across like I think
six years. But yeah, I mean that's my baby, Like
you know, anytime something happened and they told me the price,
I'm obviously gonna do it. But I just don't think
I would clone him. I love him so much, but
I would just be worried he wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The same dog.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, well it's not.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I mean, Barbara streisand taught us that, Hey what is then?
Can I ask you this though, and I'm not I'm
not I'm not saying this to be mean to you,
but if your dog, if your dog was like, I
don't know what the surgeries for. Were they just like
like torn acls and stuff or did they have like
something wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Yeah, he tore both of his acls and then he
had swallowed like part of a rope toy. So that
was like on a Christmas Eve, like an emergency surgery.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
To get that.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Out, he tore one of his nails out at the base,
so they had to fix that. And then actually both
of his acl or both of his knees started to
reject the place and the screws here for the sale surgery,
so we have to get those out there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, no, okay, but I guess my question was, hey,
I appreciate it, thank you, ma'am, thank you. Is if
your dog, let's say, like molt in dieted cancer, right,
would you not be able to clone it?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Like, I'm not cloning cancer just to get cancer again.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Can you clone a dog if it's sick? Now, there
are still some oh, there is still some healthy cellular information.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, there's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Healthy I mean, I don't know how rampant it's run
through the body. But I'm sure you could listen. Yesterday
we found invisible sperm. I'm sure today we could find
healthy cells.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
So you can clone it, but you have to understand
it may be predisposed.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now, yeah, so you're so your clone dog if it
if it takes is going to have a shortened life.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Could I'm out? And for that reason, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Thanks Mark Cuban.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, I got so into it yesterday, but I got
very angry at myself.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
And someone answered the question, uh, you if it.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Were Giselle, would I feel better about it now?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But you said, well, what is the embryo donor embryo
or donor egg?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
You said, how would that affect the breed? I guess
they've removed the nucleus so it has no play.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh, that's right, and the geneticus. That makes sense. I
should have been able to think of that on my own.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I guess Dolly the.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Sheep, the sheep, Dolly the sheep dead.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Kick this all off. Dolly was one kind of sheep,
but the donor egg was a black face sheep, so
it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
They sent it over.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Is that what they're doing with the breaking bad Wolves?
Because you're not putting it into another dire wolf.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
You're talking about Game of Thrones?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah? Whatever, people know?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Did they when Dolly died? Did they clone her again?
Are the multiple dollies?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't know. I know how you greet it? No?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Now there were out here's here's the answer. Now, I
know this was a long time ago. It was Dolly
like nineties, mid nineties. Yeah, it took two hundred and
seventy seven attempts to clone Dolly.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh my god, how many dead juniors are there now?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
How many nine embryos were created? But only one Dolly survived?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So that was it one and done.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
So he wanted to know if they then cloned Dolly
when she died in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Did Dolly look like a normal sheet or you know,
did it have like one of those like gurgo plexen
leg coming out of its head?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
No, we gave those to KB. Dolly's body was preserved
and donated to the National Museum of Scotland, where it
has been regularly exhibited since two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Now, Dolly had progressive lung disease.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Oh, get in line.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
They said, there's no link to the disease and the cloning.
But maybe they didn't clone Dolly because of the disease.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Because of the disease, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I don't see anything about a future breed of Dollar.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh here's the Dolly exhibit.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh it's in Pigeon Forge.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, it's very well preserved.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Dolly did have offspring though, Oh oh, Bonnie, Sally, Rosie
and triplets Lucy, Darcy and Cotton. And by the way,
I did not know this until reading it just now.
You're laughing about Dolly Parton. That's why they named the
(29:06):
sheep Dolly.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
That's what it says.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Because of like did the did the dear.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Oh my god. Ian Wilmot, who was the embryologist right,
said of Dolly's name, Dolly the sheep is derived from
a mammary gland cell and we couldn't think of a
more impressive pair of glands than Dolly Parton's.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Backup name was tits McGee.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Science.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, that's cool that that's an embryologist with a sense
of humor.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I know Dolly's a female, but we're gonna keep the
patriarchy alive through this research in this development.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
How disturbing is that? What a compliment?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Did Dolly pardon ever comment on that.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Hey, so we're gonna name this, We're gonna name we're
doing human cloning. We're gonna name this this animal pen
because it was taken from uh cells of a penis,
and we think of Elliot.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I'd be I'd be thrilled, I would be honored.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
She was flattered.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Did you see her quote? She said, uh, you know
when the scientists cloned Dolly the Sheep, they use the
memory glands. That's what they call them, glands, the boobs.
Everybody always played up to these points to her chest.
So that's why we had Dolly the Sheep. I was
(31:02):
sorry when she died, though, I don't want to be
cloned myself
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Okay, Duly noted
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