EITM: Driver's Head 12/8/25

Neurodivergence behind the wheel.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brad Coleman.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Brad Coleman race for Joe Gibbs racing in the Nationwide
and Cup Series from two thousand and six to twenty eleven.
I'll be very honest, don't know his name either, but
I love what he is doing.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What's he doing?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
So he's in Houston.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And he has opened up a driving school called safe
Way Driving. When I see a driving school, though, it's
not to go be a race car driver. He's not
teaching people how to race cars, eat in teenagers, right, teenagers,
but very specifically neurodivergent teenagers. Interesting, it's genius, genie. How

(00:48):
is nobody and listen? Maybe there are some programs that
cater to that. And I don't know if that's all
he does, but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
What's being catered to.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Says a former NASCAR driver's revolutionary, revolutionizing excuse me, driver's
ad giving neurodivergent students the keys to independence through a
specialized driving program that is quickly becoming the talk of
the special needs community.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
This is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Like, for example, my younger one, he needed he needed
extra training. He definitely needed extra training.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
And was that something where it was just more time
behind the wheel or where there's specifics to that training.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'll be I'll be honest. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, the he definitely needed more time, but he needed
somebody who could work with him.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
So I got very lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Like my buddy Chip me and who I always say
is the president of Ocean City, the mayor of Ocean City,
but he runs a driving.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Program and he did.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
He came up through like agencies and did driving class,
but he started a program. So I called him and
I was like, hey, my kid needs some extra help.
And he took him out and was great. So he
worked with him one I wan, yes, but I was
lucky because I knew someone.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yes, So what would be the normal path for someone
that doesn't have a hookup.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I don't know the answer to that. I don't. Well,
somebody will know, Kristin. Will you do me a favor?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Will you find me somebody who's got a neurodivergent kid
who is around like learning to drive age. I would
bet for a lot of neurodivergent kids, it gets delayed, absolutely,
And that could be anything from me.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Kids in general these days are getting their licenses later.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
True, yeah, but I'm talking specifically for and that could
be like, neurodivergent is somebody who ADHD executive functioning, somebody
who is on this on on the autism spectrum, dyslexia.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like, it's a whole menu of what falls under neurodivergent.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
So for Brad Coleman, what's his tie to it? Is
it him himself or was it a family member?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know what, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
What inspired him?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Did he have it or does he have it.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
To assist or at least have an offshoot like this?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Ummm.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
He leads Safeway Driving, says neurodivergent describes individuals whose brain
brains function, learn and process information differently.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
This includes and that it goes on and talks about
everything that kind of falls under that umbrella. Oh did
I not give the number eight six six to Elliott
eight six six two three five five four six eight.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, because you could even talk to somebody who's maybe
doesn't have children, but themselves found that oh absolutely struggled
with driver education.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Oh absolutely, yeah. No, I did say, if it's somebody
who has a kid, it could be you.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
I don't see for Brad specifically, I.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Don't either.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
He goes on and talks about one of like one
of his students who struggled forever to try to be
able to get a driver's license.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
But found that this program wasn't enough to get it done.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
He started with one.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And is now like now it's spreading like wildfire through Houston. Oh,
here we go, he says. While I was driving, here's
here's Coleman. While I was racing a NASCAR one of
my sponsors was Nationwide Insurance. They would ask drivers to
go do a sponsor obligations at a high school talk

(05:05):
to teenagers about the dangers of distracted driving. And in
the process of doing that, I discovered this passion that
I'm making a difference in these kids' lives, and it's
something I.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Want to do when racing is over.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
The transition made sense to Coleman, who even branded one
of his NASCAR vehicles with the Safeway logo after purchasing
the company in twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So he would go to schools, I guess, and learn
that there's.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
This whole group of kids out there who are like, Eah,
this ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Now the name, he said.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Originally he got made fun of by some of the
other drivers, but he was like, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
The name I feel like may draw the attention of
another company.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Hey where'd you get where'd you learn to drive? Safeway?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Do you see they capitalize the WWS well. Only difference.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now, I don't know about anybody else's kid who's neurodivergent,
but if I went to my kid and was like, no, no, no, no, no,
the difference is the W is capitalized.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know what he hears? Nothing? What a great program though?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Absolutely I love the program. So before you reached out
to Chip, did you try to find something and could
not figure out a locally?

Speaker 5 (06:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I'll tell you why, because Chip had said, hey, listen,
if when when your kids learned to start driving? And
I've know Chip forever, so when he was like, when
your kids start driving, if they need assistance or help
in anything, let me know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
So, like, even the.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Older one who's not neurodivergent, we made him go out
with Chip once or twice, just because I know Chip
and I know everything. But the older one went through
like normal driving and everything was fine. The younger one
we were like, oh, this is gonna need a little
extra help.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's so I was like Chip, seriously.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like take a nerd get a crowded parking lot, a
crowded parking lot where there's cars all over the place,
zipping all over the place, and there's one spot available
in the middle of a row, and tell a neurodivergent kid, oh,
just make a rite, go down that row and just
pull into that spot. Whoa, So just just that process.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, and he does great, like he could drive. He's
totally fine. Everything is great. But that's hard depending on
where you fit in that world. That could be hard.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
A parking lot with people jutting all over the place,
backing in, pulling and forward all that other stuff, and
you got to maneuver your way into a tight spot
in the middle of a parking lot.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Go to the Harrison Lee shopping center. It's a nightmare
in there.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
But Chip worked with him, so I didn't look around
because I knew we're going to Chip.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
And it sucks when you're the parent because you get frustrated.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, and he's been good, right who Chip?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh Yeah, yeah, one accident, but yeah, he's been good.
It had nothing to do with being neurodivergent.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
The accident. When I said he's been good, I was
hoping we all understood that was since the one accident. Oh,
he have to mention the accident?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, no, no, no, But it had nothing to do with
like neurodivergence or anything like that. It had to do
with an overgrown shrubbery blocking gay stop sign.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Ah, where am I going? Line too? Hi? Elliet the morning?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Hey, Yeah, Hi, who's this? Hey? This is Steve from Rockville.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
It turned six and he's got dyslepsia and autism?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Right?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Mom called up. Mom called up Greg's driving school and said,
I will pay for every seat just so my cake
can have one on one instruction. I'll buy the whole class.
And I'm like, I'm not going to do that, but say.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Are you married to my wife? I'll pay whatever it takes.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Oh he was, Shoe was gonna pay for its thirty seats.
They could.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I get it though, because ultimately, I don't want to
say ultimately that's what it comes down to, but in
a lot of cases that's what it's. That's what's needed
is real direct either small class or one on If
you get one on one, it's great. If you can,
like I think all the way up through high school.
I think my younger kid's largest class was eight and

(09:33):
that was one class.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Everything else was like three four students.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
He loves college the anyway, but the the but being
able to get more isolated, individualized training goes goes the distance.
What is is your kid driving yet?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah? He hasn't had an accellent yet right on. But
when I see him, when he when he gets out
of his car, his back is one big sweat Stamer.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Taught out, man, nerves, that's fine. I had that when
I was in Houston.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I mean it was also three hundred degrees outside. But
you know what, wouldn't you rather be nervous and sweating
and have independence and be able to drive and feel
confident then then not be able to go through the
process of course.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah. Well with him, he's a real follower. So that's
a sign. Says fifty five, he's going fifty five.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Chances are I've yelled at him on the Beltway and
my apology sir that yeah, but it is hard. It's
you know the you know the deal. It's hard man.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh yeah, but good for you and good for him.
All right, dude, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yes to Lauren writes and my daughter goes to a
school for children with special needs, and driving lessons are
something they work on in a living skills section.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Do they really that's fantastic? Did she say? She didn't
say what school.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I know, she just says it's really rather awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
That's great, that's really really good.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
That does make a lot of sense, especially if we're
going to learn that people are gonna have to try
to convince the school to sell all the seats or
go far out of town. Or somebody said they've used
a service that catered to those that were injured and
learning to drive again.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh what does that mean? Like a stroke? I mean
that would be.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
You, or it could just be regaining your confidence behind
the wheel. Your injury could have been in an accident.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, But I mean if it's just regaining confidence, get
back on the horse very easy.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, But if you told me, like somebody suffered a
major injury or.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Something, I get that. But if it's just like we
had an accident, let's let's get riding.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Did your son get right behind the wheel again, drove
the next day? Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Wow? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Is that because you were yelling at him house? But
I'm not familiar with those schools that I've never heard
of that are working specifically with I guess you can
almost say rehabilitation patients. It's almost like physical therapy for driving.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, no, that's good. We ought to open a driving school, man.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Seriously, as investors are instructors, maybe instruction.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Why I've been in the car with you?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
How many accidents.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
That were my fault?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That were my fault? Very few? Very few? Line three,
Hi Elliott in the morning.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Hi Elliott, this is Alison calling you from the Northern Neck.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
You're getting it today, right?

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, you're getting.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Snow right, Yes, well it's raining right now, but we're
supposed to get a little bit of snow.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It'll turn over. Andrew says, So anyway, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
So, I have a sixteen year old that's learning how
to drive. He's a level one on the autism spectrum,
and he just got his learners, so he's not quite
getting his learners from it. But he's homeschool So in Virginia,
if you're homeschool your kid and you bring in your
homeschool letter, you're allowed to teach them behind the wheel
as part of your own curriculum in your home right.

(13:14):
And he's doing really well.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
That's awesome.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
But when he drives, he has to sit up perfectly straight.
He has to listen to rock or alternative. He has
to have his sunglasses on. He concentrates super hard. When
someone comes up behind him, he gets really nervous. So
people like to tailgate him because he tends to drop
down a little bit slower. And then you know, that's
when he'll kind of swear. He still stays in his line,

(13:37):
but obviously it makes him nervous.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, and again I will apologize to tail dating for
tail dating.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
God damn it, let's move.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
No, but I get I get the whole Like I
get the whole process, right, I spent a lot of
neurodivergent kids live in that world of executive functioning. Right,
Your English folder is always going to be red or
whatever color. Like, there is a step by step process
that has to be done in a lot of cases,
not in every case, but in a lot of cases.
So yeah, if he has to put on sunglasses, the

(14:09):
you know, DC one O one has to be on,
I have to hear Elliot in the morning.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Like whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Those are all good things, but that is part of
the process, correct, Yeah, No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I get it, and he's doing.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Fine, right, Yeah, he's doing fine.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
I started getting him on services when he was one
and a half and so he can talk. He hugs me,
he tries to keep on eye contact with people. He's
doing really well. If we hadn't got him services when
he was younger, he probably wouldn't be speaking right now, right,
good for you. You can't tie his shoe yet, but
he's trying to. It's the fine motor skills that he
still has trouble with.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'll find motor skills. Throw that out. You kidding me?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
The no, no, no, But listen, nobody ties their shoes
anymore because he's a slip.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
On shy slip on, yeah, or.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
You tie him once. I have laces in my shoes,
I don't tie them. I get it.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
The hockey skates are a little bit different, but I
appreciate it. Thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Thank you are there and maybe I should know this.
Are there any drivers who use decals or bumper stickers
to indicate that they may be neurodiversion?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Seen any?

Speaker 7 (15:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You just see all those.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Be patient, student driver, be patient.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
All the way around. Or sometimes I swerve a little bit,
just make sure we're on. Uh, just make sure we're
paying attention.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Listen. If you're in these special classes.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
One day, I'm sorry, say again.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
If you're enrolled in these courses, you are a student driver,
so that sick.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Everybody's stick still work, absolutely, but does any extent, No,
does anybody throughout their life keep something on the vehicle
so that if they're being tailgated by a driver.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I would be no, no, this is fair.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I would be more apt to back off if I
knew the driver was neurodivergent. I would call me sensitive,
but I get it. I would I would definitely back
off or not in the Yosemite Samway, or give a

(16:18):
little more room. I would like, I know, like just
going back to.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
This program in Houston.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
The Safeway driving which again now I think of as
the grocery store Texas, has a minimum requirement of seven
hours behind the wheel.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I know that seems low, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Safeway allows students up to thirty seven hours of instruction,
which is great.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And you learn at your own pace. I think it's genius,
I really do.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I don't really see a decal that is uniform. You
can certainly get stuff that celebrates neurodivergence or alerts people
to awareness. But it's not because the person behind the wheel. Yeah,
but what's the stick factor? By the way, I still
remember I wanted to get Ellie in the morning stickers.
You still want to get.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Them the But what is the Yeah, I wouldn't even know,
Like what what you would put on there?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah? Like what are you gonna put hey back off?
I'm ADHD Like I don't know what you would put
on there?

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
These are just ones that embrace how's.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
My driving autistic level? One? Like I don't I don't
know what you would put on there.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
This is a name tag that just says hello, I'm neurodivergent.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Okay, well I can't put that on the car.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Oh here we go, neurodivergent person on board in an emergency,
Please be aware that the person may not respond, be
unaware of danger, or resist your help.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Now, the writing of that sticker is so small, I
gotta get then upon asked to read it. Now that
does make sense. But that's like, and I mean this
in a nice way, that that's for like responders or
god forbid, there's an accident, somebody comes up to the
car to help, right, that's not for me the driver.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Hi elliot in the morning.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
Hi, good morning, how are you guys?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Good? What's going on?

Speaker 8 (18:27):
I just wanted to let you guys know. In the
state of Maryland, they just the legislation just passed a
law that kids who are neurodivergent or adults who are
neu divergent can have can elect to have something printed
on their license to indicate that. So not only would
it be if they got pulled over or anything like that,

(18:49):
but really anytime you needed an identification, there would be
a I think it's a star, but they would be
able to indicate that they're neurodivergent, which would explain a
lot of things in a lot of situations.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
No, no, and I get that, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
First of all, I had no idea that you could
get a designation on your driver's license or does you
mean license plate? No, No, you mean like on the
actual ID, driver's license, on.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
The actual ID. And it actually just passed. It's called it.
I believe it's eric. It literally passed. But it's an
optional thing, so you don't have to do it, and
and individuals don't have to indicate that. But I work
with a lot of I work with individuals with disabilities,
and there have been many many situations where something like

(19:36):
that would be very very interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You can just as a butterfly, you can have put
on your license.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
Oh butterfly, that's what it is, thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
And that's in but not in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
That's mary that's Maryland.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
That's just in Maryland.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I mean I guess that's pretty smart. Yeah, I
guess that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
But that's not going to do you.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That doesn't do me when I'm coming up on you
on the bellway, flash it away while you're spitting out
the ass.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
No, but you know what, if you make them mad enough,
they'll they'll flip you off.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So, honey, make Diane mad enough, she'll flip you off.
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, thank you. No,
don't get new driver.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
No, but that one says I'm freaking trying.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Oh oh, I love this program.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Though.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I think it's very smart.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I think it's an important resource. And then you don't.
Even though this, I will say this one place out
of Chantilly has unbelievable reviews, this rehab center, right, but
I don't think that's exactly what they've set out to do.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
What is What did they say at the rehab place though?
Is it for people who had like just bad accidents?

Speaker 4 (20:46):
They definitely explained getting behind the wheel after some sort
of accident, But then they also said, oh they do
say disability training. Oh wow, so it's not related at
all or doesn't have to relate at all to something
that happened behind the wheel.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Are there a large number of people who have an accident?
Or like, I can't do that again? I would bet
how are you going to get around?

Speaker 4 (21:11):
We've heard from people that still don't drive.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
After an accident. Yes, not because they can't, because they won't. Well,
I say can't, they can't mentally like they got a
metal block, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
All right, so you give us five stars. But he
said it was a he called it a mental block.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, no, but like they they don't want to because
of the fear of having another accident.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes, you got to get on the horse man.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
A lot of people.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
How are you going to get around?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
That says here?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
By the way, I gave an uber driver two stars
over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Wow, yeah, what happened when they do?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
He accepted the ride and then called me and was like, Hey,
I'm stuck in a car wash. I'm gonna need an
extra ten minutes. I was like, why do you accept
the ride? And then he was like, oh, I'm moving,
so I thought he was coming. It's twelve minutes late.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Oh so you still rode.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
With Yeah, yeah you didn't cancel.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I felt bad, But then you get him two stars.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You know, I taught him a lesson. I taught him
a lesson.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
That says, no matter your condition, you can schedule a
driving evaluation.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's cool, though, but but here's here's the difference though,
And maybe maybe they are qualified for it, and so
I'm not I'm not saying anything against them at all,
and maybe they're qualified for it, and maybe their instructors are.
My guess, my hunch is dealing with somebody who had
a bad accident and giving them confidence, yeah, is a

(22:47):
different There's my guess, is a different education than teaching
somebody who's neuro divergent. And if you got a neurodivergent kid,
you know exactly what I'm talking about out It'll make
you want to pull your hair out.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
So you're talking about in terms of patience.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Not just in patience, but just in how they learn.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
But you still if it's somebody who was in a
car accident, you still shouldn't tell them. Just get over it.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Get on the horse man, let's go, get on the
steel horse, Let's go for a run. No, no, but
do you understand what I mean, like getting somebody through
a traumatic event.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I listen. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I don't know what a doctor would tell you, but
I guarantee you it's different than somebody who is dyslexic
with executive functioning issues, or is autistic or just lives
in that bad ADHD world. Those are two different things
to teach, and maybe they are equipped for that, so

(23:52):
I'm not saying that they're not, but it's not the
same education.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Right, And so much of the focus on their website
is also adaptive fleets, so cars and SUVs, oh.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Where it's like if you're missing like a like like
if you're missing a peg, you could still drive.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Or you've seen the steering wheels and have the knob
suicide knob.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I probably don't call it that anymore.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Thanks, maybe four stars just really people look at those
Google reviews and he doesn't mean it. He's just he's
not up on what's offensive and what's not these days?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Hi Ello in the morning.

Speaker 9 (24:37):
Hello, Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this Hi Dylan?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Hey, what's up right now? Yes, sir, i'd just like
to you.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
I started driving a year ago.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
How old are you if you don't mind my asking?

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Eighteen right now?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, and so you just started driving?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So so it took a little while or what did
it take a while longer?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Did did? Did you wait a little while longer?

Speaker 9 (25:07):
I waited till like until I was seventeen to start trying, right,
and then I passed it vin like twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think, gotcha?

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Good?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
But it's hard, dude, it sucks.

Speaker 9 (25:21):
Right, Yeah, So I learned a lot of what I
did from randomly video games and like raise car driving
games perfect? How like driving kind of works?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Good?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Then you'll understand when I get up close to you,
I'm just drafting the uh no, no, but listen, you're
you're eighteen, you're dyslexic.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
You've dealt with this your whole life. It ain't easy
mm hmm.

Speaker 9 (25:49):
But good for Yeah, Yeah, you're like reading and stuff
like that. I didn't read for like second third grade.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
So yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, it's got to be rough. It's got to be rough,
all right, dude. Well, congrats on getting your license. I
appreciate it, thank you, sir.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
A couple of people have suggested checking community colleges because
they may have programs. Oh, that's a good idea that
teach driver's education but then specialize in neurodivergence. But then
this last message comes in from Instagram. I had a
panic attack the day after Thanksgiving in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, go ahead ahead, I'm sorry, there's irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm sorry that compassion just seeps through the speakers anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yes, no, that's too bad. What happened?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I had a panic attack the day after Thanksgiving and
twenty twenty in my car. Ooh I have not driven since.
No way, I had no idea these rehab centers existed.
You might have just changed my life.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh you're in there, bro. No, seriously, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Why the well?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
No, I but like, like that's just so random and
hasn't driven? What year was the panic attack? Twenty twenty
five years now?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Era on Facebook was the first one to mention the
Chantilly place that would be life changing to get back
behind the wheel after five years?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
What is the condition that they tell people you can't
you can't have a driver, you can't drive narcoleps.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, well yeah but you hear that. No, but isn't
it yahm.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Three stars? Please?

Speaker 5 (27:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Is it we're going to be driver?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
No?

Speaker 5 (27:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
But is it?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Is it? No? What is where it?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Kuld?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Just come on?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
What can come on?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Whatever you got? I thought there was something where it's like,
is it epilepsy?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Narcolepsy is where you do you want to do that
on the beltway?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
My my friend's brother was was diagnosed narcoleptic and drove
now killed six people?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, no, is it epilepsy?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
What is the epileptics? Have epileptics?

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Have they take away your No? Not designations? Were they got? Butterfly?

Speaker 7 (28:08):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Just still reveal that's just as good.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, there's some condition out there.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
And wait, yes, Kenneth says that Chip was taking blind
people out to drive.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Are you serious? And we call them women?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Kristen again today?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Oh wait, so so Kenneth knows Chip? Oh wow, Chip's awesome.
Chip's great.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
The program got good hockey guy. Blind driver is on
a closed course. He said it was really moving to
see how happy it made everyone.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's awesome, good for Chip, and the best thing about
Chip he doesn't care about himself.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
He cares about everybody else. Go make yourself happy. I
bet there are people getting chips car. If I were Chip,
I'd be like, hell no, get out