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June 24, 2026 21 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Diane lost her phone at the gym and then somebody
ended up taking it.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Right the the did you did you track and see
where it was?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
That was pre uh Apple Watch days, right, So I
when I went home, I was using fine my on
my iPad right, and it wasn't showing where it was.
So then by then they had already taken it out
of the building, did they What?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What did they tell you to do?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I mean police?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Um, well, yeah, you are never supposed to go and
confront the thief.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Why not because they tell you not to do it
because it's dangerous.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, but you're telling me I don't have enough for
a search war, So who wins out there?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
But but I mean you're kind of right, like the
police have a lot going on, so you're gonna call
them and go hey, yeah, and when it's your phone,
you're like attracks to this address, go get it, go
get it. But they don't know the So I get
that now. I say that if somebody stole my phone
today and it was in Vienna, I'd be I would

(01:02):
I'd flag down every cop and be like I have
an idea, get off your ass and go get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
So in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I understand why you would be angry, but I don't
think that if you called and said, hey, my phone,
I left my phone on the counter and somebody took
it attract to this address or whatever, I don't think
the cops are going to go over there with a
battering ram and break the door down.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, I kid, but I really don't think that's enough
to act alone on that information.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So if you if you called the police and said
my phone got stolen, and by the way, I tracked
it and i'm I'm two blocks away, I'll meet you here,
they're gonna say.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I get detective.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
They're gonna say, go pound.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I would think so it's never happened to me.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But they're also going to say, and you should not
go knock on the door.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I believe Diane's right.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Then how do I get it back? I didn't lose
my phone. I'm I'm just asking. I'm just asking, how
do you get it back?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Did you have a child lose a phone?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, no, yes, but not in this situation. Not in
this situation, just one right, the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We've only lost one phone.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I mean, we've broken a ton of screens, but yeah,
we've only lost one phone.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Lost or was it stolen legitimately?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, I mean no, no, no, it was it was
lost and then somebody else got it. I'm sure, yeah,
but no. The but like, I've never had my phone stolen.
I've never lost a phone. I don't have a tablet.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
The but so I was reading.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
About somebody who had their their iPad and tracked it
says the location is recent, I'm standing at the dot.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh so they went the say again, they went to
where it was coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, they know where it is.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You said they were standing at the dot?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, oh bye by where the dot is.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
They didn't go to the house though, they didn't go
knock on the house.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
But where are they then, like on this on the sidewalk,
So they are at the house.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, they're just not on the porch.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
And people are like, you're stupid. Don't go knock on
that door. Yeah, don't go knock on that door.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Although some people have said if you go into group,
you're actually good or the.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Bigger and by group we mean gang, yeah, or if
you go or you you go the other way and
instead of accusing them of like, hey, you stole my phone,
you knock on the door.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And thank them.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Oh for finding it?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, oh, thank god? You know what I thought. I
didn't think.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I didn't think I was going to get my phone back,
but I was able to track it.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Thank you so much? Can I have it?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Tracking is wrong? It's not here?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, yeah it is, look right here.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I don't know right out of my hand kerb blueing.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I love rehearsing a story ahead of having to confront somebody,
usually customer service. I don't know if I'm willing to
take that part, even if I've won it at the audition.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The no wait, which part.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Where you have to claim in front them?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
For the reverse psychology approach.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, well I'm sure you were not doing this. No,
I'm sure you were going to try to get in
touch with me, but it's locked and you couldn't, So
thank you for pearing.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
You're also banking on the person's going to even answer
the door.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Why wouldn't they answer the door?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm knocking, Well, because I've got your phone, and that's
why I'm knocking.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I'm busy inside playing games.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
I love how Diane thinks they may lie back to
you or they may not answer. How about they know
you're not telling the truth and you're not actually gracious
for them finding it and they shoot you.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
But how would they know that.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'm lying because you're you clearly Well they can say,
they can say they stole it from me, But if
I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
They Yeah, I'm going to confess.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
The No, no, you're not following me. I you don't
have to tell them I know you stole it. I
can just pretend I must have lost it ooops, Like
I don't have to say I know you got this
out of my car. I could just say I lost
my phone. Thank god I was able to try. Thank
you so much for rescuing it. I need it back please.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
If I've learned anything from TikTok recently, I am answering
the door because people will come up and purport that
as a scam, like, hey, I've got fine.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Maya is saying that my ear air PUDs air PUDs
air pods are here or whatever, and they're talking to
them through the ring. Don't know what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well no, if you don't.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
If you don't get off my porch, I'm calling the cops.
And usually they leave by the.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Way, call the cops. No, not wait, who's calling the cops.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
The person the person, No, the bad guy is the
person who's saying that, oh, my stuff is here.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, that's a different scenario.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
No, but I'm just saying, don't answer the door.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
No, but they're going to answer the door because I'm
coming to get my phone.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Oh no, they're not.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
And even if they.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Sit on the ring camera, I would be like, I'm
just coming to thank you for recovering my phone.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
I understand my phone is here.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay. Can I give you a different scenario?

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Did your person report it? What did the cops say?
The say again, did your person try to call it in? Yeah?
And what was the response?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Can't do anything about it?

Speaker 6 (06:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
But then but then other people said, in some cases
the cops will do something about it.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Was it just on a case by case basis.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Or maybe like me like no, no, like what's going
like they'll go over there with you. Really? Yeah, I
think it's real hit or miss. I think it's real
hit or miss.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Can I give you one other scenario that I never
thought of that they say is pretty good? So let's
say let's say we don't know it's Diane, but Diane
stole our phone, right, we just know we're knocking on
her door, right, Okay, you are going to knock on
the door, right, and you're going you're going to confront
Diane about the phone.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
But it's your phone.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It doesn't matter either one of us. But we go
into tandem or a group, right, and I am.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Going to be running away when I turn around.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
No, no, where are you? Well, I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm standing at the street, right, and so I'm out
at the street.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Diane answers the door.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You say to Diane, Hey, well not hey, that's aggressive,
good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I know you have my phone. I've tracked it here.
Can you see him? He is in the street. All
he's got to do is hit send and it's going
to nine one one. Give me my phone.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Do not do that?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
No, but that's somebody did it and it worked.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't I don't know what the outcome was. They
just said that's how they did it.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
How can we escalate this?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Okay, then maybe you don't tip them right away and
they go, I don't have your phone and go you
see that young man out there.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
All he's got to do is hit send. It's going
right to nine one one.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Stupid.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, I'm just telling you that's what some people have done.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
And that's very, very dumb.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I okay, Well again, you didn't like my acting job
of thank you for my phone, I'd.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like it back.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm choosing that over threatening the thief.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I didn't threaten.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yes, you're threatening to alert the police.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Which I could have done anyway. I didn't even have
to tell you I was going to alert the police.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I'll do the fake grateful thing. I know you're looking
over at my car and there is a window bashed out. Yeah,
but I'm happy you must have found it after it
was dropped by the person that broke into my car.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Thank god that after that that ne'er do well bashed
my window, you found my phone and have recovered it.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Let me give you a hug like whatever you got
to do.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now you're initiating a contact, like physical contact.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Just thanking you for the phone.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
As a matter of fact, I brought a twenty dollars
tip for you for as a thank you, and you
get your phone back.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I get that killing them with kindness is a thing.
What if the only lesson was killed? Oh, they killed
you and they didn't hear the second part of it.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Where am I going Kristen Line two. Hi, elliot in
the morning. Have any of our listeners going to get
their own phone back?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'm sure?

Speaker 7 (09:16):
Yes, Hey is this me?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Here's one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Who's this? Hey?

Speaker 8 (09:21):
This is justin So about ten years ago, I was
moving across the country for military orders and we stopped
in Selena, Kansas and didn't realize I had left an
iPad there until we had gotten to the west coast.
Wrote it off a loss. A couple of days later,
it turned on and started pinging. I was able to

(09:43):
call Selena, Kansas Police department and they went to the
house where it was pinging from, recovered it and actually
put it in the mail and sent it back to me.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Can I ask a question, like, I'm not familiar with Selena, Kansas?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Is that is it in the middle of nowhere?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Is that is that like small? Is that like small town?
Like we don't have a lot going on? And I
don't mean that is disrespectful, but there's probably not a
ton of police activity going on in Selina, Kansas.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
So maybe they were like, we got time, we'll do it.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
Yeah, I mean maybe there wasn't much there. You know,
we were we were driving for a few hours and
the family needed to stop. You know, I didn't have
time or really want to scope out the town. I
wanted to get to sleep, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Right now, I understand that.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Damn. That's nice. Though. They put it in the mails
for you.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, that's great, that's great.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
They shipped it back out and uh yeah, got it
back after that.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
So can I.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
Can?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I can?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I also ask one another question though, and this is good,
and it's yeah, you'll understand, is part of that in
in in part because you're military.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
I don't remember that being a part of the conversation.
I think I just you know, explained, Hey, we're we're
in this state, and I see my iPad in another
state and I see it moving around and it's in
your jurisdiction. Can you guys help me out?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
So at no point did you say, hey, I was
driving across the country on military.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
Orders and now I just told him, you know, I
I I was in your town a few nights ago,
traveling across country. I mean it was yeah, but the
officers state on the line with me and he was
able to go up to the house, and.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Yeah, he recovered it from me pretty good.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's good, all right? Do I appreciate it?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Thank you, Thank you, sir, Yeah, because that would be
my call to the police.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Is Hi, this is Lieutenant.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Elliott Siege exactly. I was dropping.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Or have any of our listeners ever been like, hey man,
get in the truck.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We're going.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
A listeners. Sure, yeah, I'm seeing online, But how about
one of your employees.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
It has to be Josh, No, you went you got it?

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Wait, turn yourself on.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Has she ever told us the story? I don't think.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't know this story. I don't know this story.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
None of the details sounded familiar.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
When did you did you have your phone? Did you
lose your phone?

Speaker 9 (12:16):
It was taken out of my back pocket?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Where in Florida? How long ago is this? Is this
when you were at full sale?

Speaker 9 (12:23):
I had just graduated, okay, so twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
So we was taken out of your pocket?

Speaker 9 (12:28):
Huh. I felt it be removed, right, And then I
ran over to my friends. We were at a bar,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, this kid just took
it out of my pocket. So I logged into my
friends Find my and we tracked it. We saw were
following it, so it was me and a group. I
think there were more people in my group that fit

(12:49):
into the car right to track it. So we saw
where it was. It was at a house. So my
buddies are like, you're not going in. You're saying in the.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Car, go in because Kristen most likely to stab. Well,
I'm like, I want to go.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
In and get my phone. I was so angry, right,
and so I stayed in. The driver also was in
the car, and as the four guys they not there
was a house party going on, so they opened the door.
The guys went in, searched the house, and I kept
my friend's phone and we watched it. We saw somebody
run out the back of the house and then throw

(13:27):
something into the pond. Then we watched on my phone
the little dot so from the house to the center
of the pond. Then the boys came back out and
they were like, hey, we're sorry. We found the person
who did it. He We're like, yes, we saw the
whole thing happened.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
So you didn't get your phone back, no, no, and
your friends didn't get their ass kicked.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
No, that's kind of a bus. But you did go
to the house. Yes, Now that's you had just graduated
from college. Would you do it now?

Speaker 9 (13:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
And then some all is knock right, and then thank
them for recovering your phone.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I guess, So are you gonna are you gonna go hey,
I know you have my phone?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Give it?

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (14:15):
Hello, Like that's the other thing. What's nice now that
you can track it? Then if they're like, well we
don't have it, yeah you do. It's in the house somewhere.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Well there's something wrong with your account because it's not here.
Uh later, bitch, all right?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Wait, oh yes, Tyler Vincent tracked his phone to a house.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Did he go to the house?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, knocked it on, knocked on the door. Then person
acted all sketchy, said he had no clue. I showed
him the map and then he said, oh yeah, I
got it from outside. It was at the trash can.
I'm keeping it safe, so I got it back.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So maybe you are supposed to go to the house.
I think that's not the normal outcome for this.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Are we being pussies by thinking that it's dangerous and
the truth is?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Or does the bad guy get so thrown off when
you go, uh look look at fine mine.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
It's it's right here, It's right here.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
And and they they take your other device. I'm never
being a pussy. I am a pussy.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Let me grab line four. Hi Elliet of the morning.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hello, this is me. Yeah, Hi, who's that missus?

Speaker 10 (15:32):
Connie?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yes? Did you have your phone stolen or recovered?

Speaker 7 (15:37):
No?

Speaker 10 (15:37):
It was not me, but it was my son who,
when he was in sixth grade, had taken his phone
to school and he just had gotten his phone. And
he comes home and says he doesn't have his phone,
So of course I'm flipping out. My husband tracks the
phone to a neighborhood not far from us, and he
drove to the house, knocked on the door, and no
one answered. So he did keep a message saying that

(16:01):
who he was left a phone number to call him
because we knew that the phone wasn't there at that house.
And he did call the police as well, but they
would not do anything either. So the kid actually did
end up calling my husband. I guess he was home
by himself. He probably was scared to open the door,
but he did call and said that the phone had

(16:21):
fallen out of my son's book bag and he was
taking it and was going to give it back to
him at school tomorrow to get the phone back.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I love that kid. That kid lying through his teeth,
but I love him.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I love him nice, smart, Yes, yeah, the only difference
is I wouldn't have called. I've been like, I don't
know what day if you're talking about it, quit leaving
notes on my brain. Yeah exactly, but you got lucky.
But no, no, you know what the truth is there.
The kid was probably fearful that you were going to
tell his parents, and so he was like, now I'm screwed.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And he knows he stole it.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
He wasn't going to give it back the next day,
but he was probably scared that he got busted.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
Yeah, so my time, I lucky. We got the phone back.
But yeah, the police wouldn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So you know what, I don't thank you, ma'am. I don't.
I don't like that tone. I don't like that tone.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I don't think they can be what are they supposed
to do? But I don't think in terms of like
like I mentioned, I didn't know if I was citing
actual law but a search for it. I just don't
think they can act on that.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
If a cop comes to my house, it says, hey,
i'm here with I'm here with mister Molnar his phone
tracks it's in this house, and I go, no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean then what then? I mean, I mean, yeah,
I mean they're not going to arrest me. I don't think.
I mean, I'm also not stealing somebody I tried.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, I mean, but I think Tyler's right, like they're
not gonna they're not busting through the door. Or maybe
you're just so scared and then you go it's fell
out of his book bag.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
To cover it up. But yeah, I'm with you. I mean,
I can't arrested.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Oh the trash phone, that one and listen, maybe in
a smaller town.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Different.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yeah, that ain't flying around here.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
No, and i'd been for years. But don't go get Obama.
Not Obama Sama?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Which thing has.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Elliott? The morning? Hello, damn it, I lost Just let
me go here, Hi Elliot at the morning.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
They weren't answering, was this me?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Who's this?

Speaker 7 (18:40):
This is a Hey? This is Scott Hey. The exact
same thing that happened to Kristen happened due to my son.
He went to school at Morgantown and goes to West
Virginia and he went there. He was moving in and
he called us to like a ten eleven o'clock at night,
and s said that his phone. He put his phone
on top of his car as he was taking stuff

(19:01):
in to his apartment, and when he came out, his
phone was gone. Right, So we started tracking it. Me
and my wife started tracking it at home, and we
were following the guy and it was it was like
going up one street. We said, okay, he went up
this street and then it turned right and went down
the street and we're like, you got to go follow it,
you got to go track it. So he got all

(19:23):
this stuff inside. Then he went down the road to
track it and he went to his house. I was
a house party. It's like a frat party, so he
are a sorority party actually. So he went up to
the house and knocked on the door and these girls
answered and they're like, no, no, we don't have it here.
We don't have it here. But then we found out
there was a guy that lived behind This older guy

(19:45):
lived behind their house. And he walked around the corner
and went to this guy's house. Same thing, walked up
to the door. The guy was like, oh yeah, I
sounded I was sitting on top of this car. Uh
and you know, yeah, Todd save it and the thing.
Uh yeah, here you go and went inside and got
it for him, right lucky. We tracked it. We tracked

(20:08):
it for forty five minutes, and it was funny because
we were watching the map and he's like going up
the street. Then he went back and he went to Chipotle.
Then he went back up the street, then turned left,
and it was so funny to track. But yeah, we
tracked it all the way to this guy's house.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Wow. Hey, can I ask this? Hey, thank you, sir?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Thank you In terms of like trapping or trapping tracking,
like I've never had like Life three sixty or anything
like that, is that a better tracker than find My?
Like I don't know, Like I know, Life three sixty
gives you like how fast they're going at all of
that if you pay for it.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
But is that a.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Better Is that a more accurate tracker than just like
the built in find My?

Speaker 4 (20:47):
I bet no matter what, the accuracy would come up
in court then And that's why police may be like,
this is not proof it's in this home?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah yeah, or if you went to like if even
if you track to this building. Right, So let's let's
say let's say I stole somebody's phone and I brought
it to this building. If it's a multi story building,
find my doesn't know where you are? Yeah, and I'm
assuming like three sixty doesn't know if you're on the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,
or seventh floor.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, And it just gives you a general like a
general area too. I don't have the paid life three sixty,
so I know generally where Marley is.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Yeah, Yeah, that's good enough.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's good enough.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Not for officer or monar. It's also a pussy. I
know it made it through the academy, but it was
barely
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