February 6, 2026 ⢠20 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Who's this is this?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ben from Faara Fact?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Oh yeah, hey Ben from fair Fact. So you have
a you have a cpath machine?
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Uh well, my little brother actually has one, but his connects.
Speaker 5 (00:11):
Through like a like a trake.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Wait what do you wait?
Speaker 5 (00:18):
So it's like a tube through the throat.
Speaker 6 (00:19):
Jesus Christ, Okay, can't we just do like like he
was talking fun sleep back now?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
I mean, it takes the sea fat, it helps him sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But why why does he have it? Why does he
have a trichyotomy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I mean he, I mean, he has a mitel conjure disorder.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
It's the whole, the whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
But he has like acid reflex and so when he
sleeps till like it'll come back, your stuff will come
back up, right, But like it basically helps kind of
keep everything under control when he's asleep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I gotcha, I gotcha. You see, I mean, is he
okay though?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh no, he's fine. He's doing good, he's doing he's
stable right now. I mean he's been like that for
years now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh wow, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right, I didn't know you could have a trait
that long. Well, I guess that's what I'll be speaking
through one day. All right, very good, very good, Thank
you sir, Thank you, my friend. I was not expecting.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
No, no, just laugh it away ross.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hi O the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
Hey? This is Paul from a plate a column for
the seapap machine.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, so you you you use a seapap.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I've had one for probably almost eight ten years now,
Oh wow, change your life?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:37):
It did the best seas in my life when I
actually could sleep with it through the night exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Now can I ask you this? And I'm glad that
you've had one that long. I mean, well, you know
what I mean is I don't So I don't. I
don't have one, right, I don't need one. The the
yours is for sleep apnea?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Correct? Correct?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What is? What is a obstructive sleep apnea?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Or is is? Is sleep apnea? Really obstructive sleep apnea?
We just shorten it and call it sleep apnea.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
There's probably different types, but mainly it's our tongue obstructs
our ability to breathe. So the machine just pushes air
through our nose so we can breathe because our tongue
blocks are blocks our airway at night.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yes, us here that OSA is the most common sleep
related breathing disorder.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Okay, so when I talk about, like somebody has sleep apnea,
what they really what I'm really talking about is obstructive
sleep apnea.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We just call it sleep apnea. How many times at
night were you waking up? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well?
Speaker 8 (02:48):
Three or four is waking up gasping for air. That's
when my wife would hit me and tell me to
breathe because I would stop breathing. And that's when I
had to go to a sleep study, right, and so.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Like there like, well here stories of people or have
heard stories of people who stop breathing ten twenty thirty
times an hour forget through the night.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Oh yeah, there's there's some I've heard in my seat study.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He said he had a truck driver and.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
The guy stopped breathing one hundred and sixty five times
a night and he just kept helping his airway till
he could finally sleep. And the guy was like, you
literally changed my life. Oh, I'm I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, no, I mean I can't even imagine. Thank god,
I'm not there.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
But yeah, there's like a low on mind's a low
and I stopped, like I think they When I did mine,
they said seven and a half times. The magic number
is five to get a to actually get a machine.
I think the average person stops breathing two two and
a half times a night something like that, or per per.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hour, per hour, So the magic number is five.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If you're if you're at five or more times stopping
an hour, you're generally given a seapap or recommended a seapap, right, yeah,
and if it's any.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
More than that, dope, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And then they.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Based there what the pressure is of the air based
on how bad you have, like how many times you have.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
He'll stop reading.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Can I ask you this though, other than other than
just I'm assuming being tired, did you have any side
effects prior to getting the machine? Did you have any
side effects from sleep apnea other than just being tired?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Tired?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Uh? Yeah, just a lot of fatigue.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I woke up middle night like talking to myself, sometimes sleepwalking.
But yeah, mainly it's just you just really unable to
function the next day because you're just so tired.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
What it comes down to is your.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Brain never falls asleep. Your brains up all night till
your body to breathe, so you never actually get a
good night's rest.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Interesting, all right, very good, very good. You've been very helpful.
Thank you, sir, Thank.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You, You're welcome. Thanks you got.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Whoops, try one more?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Hi, yell yah morning.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Hey, I was calling as a teetpap user.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You are. Yeah, you know what's funny?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
You thought that was like a totally a guy thing.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I would bet what are what are what are the percentages?
I would bet? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, hold on, what are the I would bet? See
perhaps eighty five percent?
Speaker 9 (05:19):
Mail, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, well, I mean listen, I mean you snore? Well
you did?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I do?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh? Do you really like a bear? And yours is
yours is obstructive?
Speaker 9 (05:31):
Right, yeah, mine was obstructive, which which is to say,
it's when your muscles relax, like how the previous caller
kind of said with your tongue. But it's it's the
muscles that relax and it can go away or lessen
with like a lot of weight loss, for example. Substructive
is really common too and people who are overweight. The
other kind is central sleep apnea, and that's more of
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a brain issue, like something's not transmitting properly causing the obstruction.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, did you and why?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Like, did do they know why you had your sleep apnea?
Speaker 9 (06:07):
They don't know why I have. Well, so there's a
test that they do. I guess they could say that
makes you prone to it, so they measure the doctor
kind of like measures the back of your throat and
mouth area with a scale. Mine is so small it
measured off the scale, which contributes to it. I am
also technically overweight, so that also contributes to it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right now.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
I don't want to say hereditary because I don't know
for sure, but I do know that everybody in my
family has sleep atnah.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No fooling, no fooling' Hey did you and listen? I'm
glad the sea pap the seapath helps.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Question for you when you but prior to getting the
machine right, prior prior to getting the mask and hose,
did you have any other other than just being tired?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Did you have any other.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What's what's the word I'm looking for, like side effects
from the apnea.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Drive out naturally from the snoring?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Sure, well, I bet I bet that. I bet that
soft palate in the back like sandpaper.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Yeah, I would get headaches and stuff. Did you have
any other symptoms?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah, I'd like to see it here.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Derek had my partner, he would like to locinate during
the day, which could offset of, you know, fatigue, but
from home.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hey wait, I'm sorry to say again.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I said, also, smell my face.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Hey, smell it? Well, you can't. You got a mask
on and you're hearing things. Hey, can I ask you this?
Do you guys?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Do you do you guys wear your seapap machines when
you're having sex?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Maybe it's like Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hey, let me ask you this. Did either of you
have prior to getting the machine? Did either of you
have floppy eyelid syndrome?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
So what is that?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You guys? Never heard of that?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
No, floppy eyelid syndrome. They say that people who have
obstructive sleep apnea or just sleep apnea, one of the
one of the conditions that can come along with that
is floppy eyelid syndrome.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So I'm reading that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I was reading about this woman. Let me put you
on hold for a second. Hold on one second. A
thirty nine year old woman sought care at a clinic.
She told doctors that for six weeks she felt like
she had something in her eyes. They were very watery
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and bloodshot by the time her appointment came around. So
she calls and makes the appointment. It's like, man, I
feel like I got some in my eyes. They're very dry,
they're red like it's not good. So she makes an appointment.
By the time of her appointment, her eyelids had rolled up,
flipping inside out on their own.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And we're staying that way.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Oh, doing that trick that the boys in middle school used.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To do, except that is just where it's one fold up.
These are rolled up. Hey, Diane, Oh.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Oh, take it down. It looks like there's more than
one photo.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Here, let Diane, that's when it was bad here.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oh my god, no, well look at that right eye.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Also, I don't know what all that white goo is,
but on that right eye.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Oh, you've never had sleep in the corn. Oh, so's perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
What's going on here? What's going on here?
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Could she see?
Speaker 9 (10:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
No, I'm taking the photo down. I will post it, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
In the initial exam, doctors did note she did have
bloodshot eyes.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Okay, they see.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
They also said that she was unable to fully close
her eyes. And now the reason she couldn't close her
eyes is because.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Her eyelids were rolled up.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That's awful.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
When the doctors gently tried to manually unroll her eyelids,
they were remarkably limp and rolled up even higher.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
The window.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, you pulled the window shade down.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're like, oh, it's gonna get lower, and then it
shoots through the ceiling.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Oh, so is that okay? Like Diana have to put
a photo back on.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
How do I find somebody who's got sleepy ies and
or floppy?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I send, I'll take any any any any level.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
So is this when they rolled up higher?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, oh what I'm being a bitch, she said that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, so the eyelids were remarkably limp and curled up more.
She did tell doctors she was having trouble sleeping.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
No, oh god. Now was that though the clue they
needed to figure out it may be an.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
She She reported snoring at night and being very, very
tired during the day. She said her eye symptoms were
at their worst when she first woke up. But they
they so they go on and they look and they
were like, well, clearly you have sleep apnea and you
are you are so tired.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And your eye are so exhausted. The eyelids are rolling up. Yeah,
she would.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Stop breathing twenty seven times an hour, which isn't that much.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, it's over that five. But there are people
like that guy said who stops? Who stopped breathing one
hundred times an hour?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
It says here that severe would be thirty or more.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Good news.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Most people with floppy ie syndrome can manage the condition
with simple measures, such as using a CEPAP machine. Some
some may need corrective surgery.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Cut them lids this is you sometimes can sleep with
your eyes tape shut, rip to your lashes.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, Diane, wouldn't you rather have lose a couple of
lashes than have your eye.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Lids roll up?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Well, God if you're giving and those choices. And Diana's
very dependent on her lashes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But she ain't got no eyebrows.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
You said it, not me?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Line five, Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Good morning, Hi, who's as?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
This is Megan?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You got a droopy elid syndrome?
Speaker 10 (13:18):
I do not, but I am a recovered seapop user.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
How do you recover?
Speaker 10 (13:24):
I had sleep apnea because my tonsils were too large,
so I had them removed and I no longer have.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Apnea's did they put the tonsils up your nose or
do you just have a cold?
Speaker 10 (13:35):
No, I have allergies.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Your sound stuffing just.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
A little bit first thing in the morning. It's always worse.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So the so yours was? Yours was brought on by
your tonsils being too big?
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Correct, So I was snoring and I was actually grinding
my teeth.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
How long were you on the How long were you
on a seapap before?
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Only ninety days? Because I made an appointment to get
with an antique because I hated my machine. So if
my tonsils were the reason, I wanted them removed so
I didn't have to stay on the stupid machine.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And then after you got the surgery, how quick were
you off the machine?
Speaker 10 (14:16):
As soon as I recovered, they wouldn't let me use
it while I was recovering because of the scabs in
the back of your throat, right, But I didn't have
to use it again once they were removed.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Good for you, No, you know what, that's good? But
you never go Your eyelids never got droopy.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
No, no droopy eyelids, just grinding teeth got you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Got to get a look at this picture. It is amazing,
awful it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
All right, very good. Hey, thank you for calling.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
I was worried that she may leave up.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Say no, come on, nobody listened to this show? Is
that thin skinned?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Line three of that library? It's not listening.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Hi, yell yeah the morning.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Hey is this me?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This is Sid?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yes you man sea pat?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh yeah, definitely. So two years ago I had two
massive grand mall seizures and my neurologists determined that I
needed to have a sleep test and I had to
sleep apnea. In the test, I ended up having eighty
to ninety episodes a night where I wasn't breathing. That's
a lot, bro, Yeah, yeah, it is definitely a lot.
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And I mean I was not get up, rip it off,
the mask off, and drink water all night long. But
one of the odd things that was the result of
using this mask, I used to never be able to
remember dreams when I look up, and now I could
remember them all day long and talk about them.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, well, because you were probably thinking so well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I was going to say, you probably were waking
yourself up so much you never got rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, definitely didn't. But now Yeah, I'm deep.
I'm deep, and I get my best sleep probably the
last two hours before I have to wake up, and uh,
I have to take my mask off her sex. The
wife won't have any of it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. But yeah, but that was pretty intense. I had
no idea, and my seizures were pretty intense. You know,
my wife thought it was like the exorcism. You know,
she tried. She tried to take my you know, hand
in my in my mouth and not bit her finger
off pretty much. And it was pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Wow. Yeah, that's Hey, I appreciate it. No, but I'm glad.
I'm listen. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're doing uh,
that you're doing well. Let me grab line four though,
real quick. I don't want to lose line four. Pardon me, Hi,
Ellie of the Morning. Hey, yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
My name is Steel Steel, Yeah, that's my first name.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sweet, you're hired, but worked for both of art. Hey,
what is the I understand you have the eyelid thing.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I do I believe, I mean, I have a problem
with the ice flap. I hate when you have a
really bad sleep at me, like I have a movie
up to what's called a bypath because the pressure is
so high. When you exhale, its lower the pressure. But anyway,
when I was first on the sea path, the pressure
is so high that when you're sleeping, the air pressure
would go through your chear ducts up into your eyes,
(17:13):
and my eyelids would sit there and flap in the
breeze and wake me up.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
God, Okay, so what is a what is what is
a bypath? I've never heard of that?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Okay, if you have super bad sleep after you know,
it's like it's like an upgrade. And what it is
is it you get the pressure when you inhale, but
when you exhale, it reduces the pressure. Right, it's so
strong you can't really exhale, and then when you inhale again,
it increases the pressure. So it goes up and down
the whole time while you're sleeping.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Wow, Hey, when like how many times, how many how
many episodes, I don't know what they call it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
How many times were you waking up?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
When I first got diagnosed, I was waking up sixty
three times an hour.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Once, so essentially once a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, you don't sayhyically wake up, but yeah, right the rest. Yeah,
so so I wake up about every ninety minutes. I've
had every surgery you could imagine, including the Inspire implant.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh the commercial, Oh, I say Inspire.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
No, that's expired, Expire without the implant.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Yes, it looks like a little defibrillator right, Well that's yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
It's Uh. You got the remote and you hold it
up to your chest and you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Know, and that shoots air in your nose.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No, the Inspire they put an implant in your chest
and run a wire up along your tongue and it
shocks your tongue every time you inhale.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Sometimes depends if I'm fully asleep when it kicks in.
It's on a time device. It waits like thirty minutes
to kick in. But if I'm sleeping the wrong way, yes,
like somebody beating a drum on the bed.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, they don't put that in the commercial.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I had no tongue.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Honestly, I thought it was like a sea pap machine,
like that's just inside your body. But you're telling me,
can you feel the thing running against your tongue?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Uh? You can if you're awake.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, who in their right.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Effing mind is no offense, or it's better than waking
up every minute.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No inspire it. That is that I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The commercial doesn't talk about a cable running through your
mouth that's shocking your tongue.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, they don't want to give you all that on
the commercial. Sign up.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
No, people are like, oh sleep better, sign me up.
I'm sorry wire by my tongue.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
For surgeries, I've had the uh where they fixed your nose.
Oh well, your septum, yeah, they fixed that, and then
they took out my tonsils, and they took out the ugula,
and then they trim the soft palate.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wait a minute, I've heard of the soft pallet trim.
They say is very painful. They took out that little
ding dong thing in your throat.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, I had him do it all at one time.
I was drinking liquid for two weeks.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh wow, lost weight though the Yeah, well I.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Get it all back.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's okay. So and then, hey, I appreciate the far
How about you. You're doing well now?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Oh yeah, I'm fine, And I want to thank you
guys for all these years of having fun.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Absolutely you want a hoodie?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh absolutely, it comes with a tube that'll shock your mouth. Yeah,
hold on one second, hold on one second.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, shout it out. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Kevin Laughlinburg go suck it.
Hi, Who's this is this?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ben from Faara Fact?
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Oh yeah, hey Ben from fair Fact. So you have
a you have a cpath machine?
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Uh well, my little brother actually has one, but his connects.
Speaker 5 (00:11):
Through like a like a trake.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Wait what do you wait?
Speaker 5 (00:18):
So it's like a tube through the throat.
Speaker 6 (00:19):
Jesus Christ, Okay, can't we just do like like he
was talking fun sleep back now?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
I mean, it takes the sea fat, it helps him sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But why why does he have it? Why does he
have a trichyotomy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I mean he, I mean, he has a mitel conjure disorder.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
It's the whole, the whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
But he has like acid reflex and so when he
sleeps till like it'll come back, your stuff will come
back up, right, But like it basically helps kind of
keep everything under control when he's asleep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I gotcha, I gotcha. You see, I mean, is he
okay though?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh no, he's fine. He's doing good, he's doing he's
stable right now. I mean he's been like that for
years now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh wow, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right, I didn't know you could have a trait
that long. Well, I guess that's what I'll be speaking
through one day. All right, very good, very good, Thank
you sir, Thank you, my friend. I was not expecting.
Speaker 7 (01:12):
No, no, just laugh it away ross.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Hi O the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
Hey? This is Paul from a plate a column for
the seapap machine.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, so you you you use a seapap.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I've had one for probably almost eight ten years now,
Oh wow, change your life?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Right.
Speaker 8 (01:37):
It did the best seas in my life when I
actually could sleep with it through the night exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Now can I ask you this? And I'm glad that
you've had one that long. I mean, well, you know
what I mean is I don't So I don't. I
don't have one, right, I don't need one. The the
yours is for sleep apnea?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Correct? Correct?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What is? What is a obstructive sleep apnea?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Or is is? Is sleep apnea? Really obstructive sleep apnea?
We just shorten it and call it sleep apnea.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
There's probably different types, but mainly it's our tongue obstructs
our ability to breathe. So the machine just pushes air
through our nose so we can breathe because our tongue
blocks are blocks our airway at night.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yes, us here that OSA is the most common sleep
related breathing disorder.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Okay, so when I talk about, like somebody has sleep apnea,
what they really what I'm really talking about is obstructive
sleep apnea.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We just call it sleep apnea. How many times at
night were you waking up? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well?
Speaker 8 (02:48):
Three or four is waking up gasping for air. That's
when my wife would hit me and tell me to
breathe because I would stop breathing. And that's when I
had to go to a sleep study, right, and so.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Like there like, well here stories of people or have
heard stories of people who stop breathing ten twenty thirty
times an hour forget through the night.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Oh yeah, there's there's some I've heard in my seat study.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He said he had a truck driver and.
Speaker 8 (03:17):
The guy stopped breathing one hundred and sixty five times
a night and he just kept helping his airway till
he could finally sleep. And the guy was like, you
literally changed my life. Oh, I'm I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, no, I mean I can't even imagine. Thank god,
I'm not there.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
But yeah, there's like a low on mind's a low
and I stopped, like I think they When I did mine,
they said seven and a half times. The magic number
is five to get a to actually get a machine.
I think the average person stops breathing two two and
a half times a night something like that, or per per.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hour, per hour, So the magic number is five.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If you're if you're at five or more times stopping
an hour, you're generally given a seapap or recommended a seapap, right, yeah,
and if it's any.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
More than that, dope, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And then they.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Based there what the pressure is of the air based
on how bad you have, like how many times you have.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
He'll stop reading.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Can I ask you this though, other than other than
just I'm assuming being tired, did you have any side
effects prior to getting the machine? Did you have any
side effects from sleep apnea other than just being tired?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Tired?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Uh? Yeah, just a lot of fatigue.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I woke up middle night like talking to myself, sometimes sleepwalking.
But yeah, mainly it's just you just really unable to
function the next day because you're just so tired.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
What it comes down to is your.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Brain never falls asleep. Your brains up all night till
your body to breathe, so you never actually get a
good night's rest.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Interesting, all right, very good, very good. You've been very helpful.
Thank you, sir, Thank.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You, You're welcome. Thanks you got.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Whoops, try one more?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Hi, yell yah morning.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Hey, I was calling as a teetpap user.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You are. Yeah, you know what's funny?
Speaker 7 (05:07):
You thought that was like a totally a guy thing.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I would bet what are what are what are the percentages?
I would bet? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, hold on, what are the I would bet? See
perhaps eighty five percent?
Speaker 9 (05:19):
Mail, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, well, I mean listen, I mean you snore? Well
you did?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I do?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh? Do you really like a bear? And yours is
yours is obstructive?
Speaker 9 (05:31):
Right, yeah, mine was obstructive, which which is to say,
it's when your muscles relax, like how the previous caller
kind of said with your tongue. But it's it's the
muscles that relax and it can go away or lessen
with like a lot of weight loss, for example. Substructive
is really common too and people who are overweight. The
other kind is central sleep apnea, and that's more of
(05:53):
a brain issue, like something's not transmitting properly causing the obstruction.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, did you and why?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Like, did do they know why you had your sleep apnea?
Speaker 9 (06:07):
They don't know why I have. Well, so there's a
test that they do. I guess they could say that
makes you prone to it, so they measure the doctor
kind of like measures the back of your throat and
mouth area with a scale. Mine is so small it
measured off the scale, which contributes to it. I am
also technically overweight, so that also contributes to it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right now.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
I don't want to say hereditary because I don't know
for sure, but I do know that everybody in my
family has sleep atnah.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No fooling, no fooling' Hey did you and listen? I'm
glad the sea pap the seapath helps.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Question for you when you but prior to getting the
machine right, prior prior to getting the mask and hose,
did you have any other other than just being tired?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Did you have any other.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What's what's the word I'm looking for, like side effects
from the apnea.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
Drive out naturally from the snoring?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Sure, well, I bet I bet that. I bet that
soft palate in the back like sandpaper.
Speaker 9 (07:10):
Yeah, I would get headaches and stuff. Did you have
any other symptoms?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah, I'd like to see it here.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
Derek had my partner, he would like to locinate during
the day, which could offset of, you know, fatigue, but
from home.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hey wait, I'm sorry to say again.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I said, also, smell my face.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Hey, smell it? Well, you can't. You got a mask
on and you're hearing things. Hey, can I ask you this?
Do you guys?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Do you do you guys wear your seapap machines when
you're having sex?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Maybe it's like Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hey, let me ask you this. Did either of you
have prior to getting the machine? Did either of you
have floppy eyelid syndrome?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
So what is that?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You guys? Never heard of that?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
No, floppy eyelid syndrome. They say that people who have
obstructive sleep apnea or just sleep apnea, one of the
one of the conditions that can come along with that
is floppy eyelid syndrome.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So I'm reading that.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I was reading about this woman. Let me put you
on hold for a second. Hold on one second. A
thirty nine year old woman sought care at a clinic.
She told doctors that for six weeks she felt like
she had something in her eyes. They were very watery
(08:57):
and bloodshot by the time her appointment came around. So
she calls and makes the appointment. It's like, man, I
feel like I got some in my eyes. They're very dry,
they're red like it's not good. So she makes an appointment.
By the time of her appointment, her eyelids had rolled up,
flipping inside out on their own.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And we're staying that way.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Oh, doing that trick that the boys in middle school used.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
To do, except that is just where it's one fold up.
These are rolled up. Hey, Diane, Oh.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Oh, take it down. It looks like there's more than
one photo.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Here, let Diane, that's when it was bad here.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oh my god, no, well look at that right eye.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Also, I don't know what all that white goo is,
but on that right eye.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Oh, you've never had sleep in the corn. Oh, so's perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
What's going on here? What's going on here?
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Could she see?
Speaker 9 (10:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
No, I'm taking the photo down. I will post it, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
In the initial exam, doctors did note she did have
bloodshot eyes.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Okay, they see.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
They also said that she was unable to fully close
her eyes. And now the reason she couldn't close her
eyes is because.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Her eyelids were rolled up.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
That's awful.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
When the doctors gently tried to manually unroll her eyelids,
they were remarkably limp and rolled up even higher.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
The window.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, you pulled the window shade down.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're like, oh, it's gonna get lower, and then it
shoots through the ceiling.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Oh, so is that okay? Like Diana have to put
a photo back on.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
How do I find somebody who's got sleepy ies and
or floppy?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I send, I'll take any any any any level.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
So is this when they rolled up higher?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, oh what I'm being a bitch, she said that.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, so the eyelids were remarkably limp and curled up more.
She did tell doctors she was having trouble sleeping.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
No, oh god. Now was that though the clue they
needed to figure out it may be an.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
She She reported snoring at night and being very, very
tired during the day. She said her eye symptoms were
at their worst when she first woke up. But they
they so they go on and they look and they
were like, well, clearly you have sleep apnea and you
are you are so tired.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And your eye are so exhausted. The eyelids are rolling up. Yeah,
she would.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Stop breathing twenty seven times an hour, which isn't that much.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, it's over that five. But there are people
like that guy said who stops? Who stopped breathing one
hundred times an hour?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
It says here that severe would be thirty or more.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Good news.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Most people with floppy ie syndrome can manage the condition
with simple measures, such as using a CEPAP machine. Some
some may need corrective surgery.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Cut them lids this is you sometimes can sleep with
your eyes tape shut, rip to your lashes.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, Diane, wouldn't you rather have lose a couple of
lashes than have your eye.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Lids roll up?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Well, God if you're giving and those choices. And Diana's
very dependent on her lashes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But she ain't got no eyebrows.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
You said it, not me?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Line five, Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Good morning, Hi, who's as?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
This is Megan?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
You got a droopy elid syndrome?
Speaker 10 (13:18):
I do not, but I am a recovered seapop user.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
How do you recover?
Speaker 10 (13:24):
I had sleep apnea because my tonsils were too large,
so I had them removed and I no longer have.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Apnea's did they put the tonsils up your nose or
do you just have a cold?
Speaker 10 (13:35):
No, I have allergies.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Your sound stuffing just.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
A little bit first thing in the morning. It's always worse.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So the so yours was? Yours was brought on by
your tonsils being too big?
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Correct, So I was snoring and I was actually grinding
my teeth.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
How long were you on the How long were you
on a seapap before?
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Only ninety days? Because I made an appointment to get
with an antique because I hated my machine. So if
my tonsils were the reason, I wanted them removed so
I didn't have to stay on the stupid machine.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And then after you got the surgery, how quick were
you off the machine?
Speaker 10 (14:16):
As soon as I recovered, they wouldn't let me use
it while I was recovering because of the scabs in
the back of your throat, right, But I didn't have
to use it again once they were removed.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Good for you, No, you know what, that's good? But
you never go Your eyelids never got droopy.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
No, no droopy eyelids, just grinding teeth got you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Got to get a look at this picture. It is amazing,
awful it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
All right, very good. Hey, thank you for calling.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
I was worried that she may leave up.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Say no, come on, nobody listened to this show? Is
that thin skinned?
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Line three of that library? It's not listening.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Hi, yell yeah the morning.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Hey is this me?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This is Sid?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yes you man sea pat?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh yeah, definitely. So two years ago I had two
massive grand mall seizures and my neurologists determined that I
needed to have a sleep test and I had to
sleep apnea. In the test, I ended up having eighty
to ninety episodes a night where I wasn't breathing. That's
a lot, bro, Yeah, yeah, it is definitely a lot.
(15:28):
And I mean I was not get up, rip it off,
the mask off, and drink water all night long. But
one of the odd things that was the result of
using this mask, I used to never be able to
remember dreams when I look up, and now I could
remember them all day long and talk about them.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, well, because you were probably thinking so well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I was going to say, you probably were waking
yourself up so much you never got rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, definitely didn't. But now Yeah, I'm deep.
I'm deep, and I get my best sleep probably the
last two hours before I have to wake up, and uh,
I have to take my mask off her sex. The
wife won't have any of it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah. But yeah, but that was pretty intense. I had
no idea, and my seizures were pretty intense. You know,
my wife thought it was like the exorcism. You know,
she tried. She tried to take my you know, hand
in my in my mouth and not bit her finger
off pretty much. And it was pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Wow. Yeah, that's Hey, I appreciate it. No, but I'm glad.
I'm listen. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're doing uh,
that you're doing well. Let me grab line four though,
real quick. I don't want to lose line four. Pardon me, Hi,
Ellie of the Morning. Hey, yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
My name is Steel Steel, Yeah, that's my first name.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sweet, you're hired, but worked for both of art. Hey,
what is the I understand you have the eyelid thing.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I do I believe, I mean, I have a problem
with the ice flap. I hate when you have a
really bad sleep at me, like I have a movie
up to what's called a bypath because the pressure is
so high. When you exhale, its lower the pressure. But anyway,
when I was first on the sea path, the pressure
is so high that when you're sleeping, the air pressure
would go through your chear ducts up into your eyes,
(17:13):
and my eyelids would sit there and flap in the
breeze and wake me up.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
God, Okay, so what is a what is what is
a bypath? I've never heard of that?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Okay, if you have super bad sleep after you know,
it's like it's like an upgrade. And what it is
is it you get the pressure when you inhale, but
when you exhale, it reduces the pressure. Right, it's so
strong you can't really exhale, and then when you inhale again,
it increases the pressure. So it goes up and down
the whole time while you're sleeping.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Wow, Hey, when like how many times, how many how
many episodes, I don't know what they call it.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
How many times were you waking up?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
When I first got diagnosed, I was waking up sixty
three times an hour.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Once, so essentially once a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, you don't sayhyically wake up, but yeah, right the rest. Yeah,
so so I wake up about every ninety minutes. I've
had every surgery you could imagine, including the Inspire implant.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh the commercial, Oh, I say Inspire.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
No, that's expired, Expire without the implant.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Yes, it looks like a little defibrillator right, Well that's yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
It's Uh. You got the remote and you hold it
up to your chest and you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Know, and that shoots air in your nose.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
No, the Inspire they put an implant in your chest
and run a wire up along your tongue and it
shocks your tongue every time you inhale.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Can you feel it?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Sometimes depends if I'm fully asleep when it kicks in.
It's on a time device. It waits like thirty minutes
to kick in. But if I'm sleeping the wrong way, yes,
like somebody beating a drum on the bed.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, they don't put that in the commercial.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I had no tongue.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Honestly, I thought it was like a sea pap machine,
like that's just inside your body. But you're telling me,
can you feel the thing running against your tongue?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Uh? You can if you're awake.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, who in their right.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Effing mind is no offense, or it's better than waking
up every minute.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No inspire it. That is that I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The commercial doesn't talk about a cable running through your
mouth that's shocking your tongue.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, they don't want to give you all that on
the commercial. Sign up.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
No, people are like, oh sleep better, sign me up.
I'm sorry wire by my tongue.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
For surgeries, I've had the uh where they fixed your nose.
Oh well, your septum, yeah, they fixed that, and then
they took out my tonsils, and they took out the ugula,
and then they trim the soft palate.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wait a minute, I've heard of the soft pallet trim.
They say is very painful. They took out that little
ding dong thing in your throat.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, I had him do it all at one time.
I was drinking liquid for two weeks.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh wow, lost weight though the Yeah, well I.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Get it all back.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's okay. So and then, hey, I appreciate the far
How about you. You're doing well now?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Oh yeah, I'm fine, And I want to thank you
guys for all these years of having fun.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Absolutely you want a hoodie?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh absolutely, it comes with a tube that'll shock your mouth. Yeah,
hold on one second, hold on one second.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, shout it out. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Kevin Laughlinburg go suck it.
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