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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pray sexual. Have you ever heard that term? No, I've
never heard of it either, And I don't know. I
don't know that it is.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is it negative?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Would people have a negative connotation of it? No?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't think so. I don't think so. Anybody can
be pray sexual.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We referenced the spelling be earlier. Yes, I don't know
what that prefix means. All I'm thinking of is the
band the fray?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Why do you think that that's somehow related?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ah? No?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But why would you call yourself that?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But fray means like like like a struggle, right, the.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No, because can you have like a wire that's fray,
that's frayed.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Past tense?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So that's like worn down, worn down?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But isn't conflict or struggle?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is this struggle sexual?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Does that struggle bus sexual?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Does that get you somehow to?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The actual definition of phrase sexual.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't think so. I don't think so. Diane, look
up phrase sexual, Look up frase fray.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Does she have to turn off a filter?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The Oh? I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no,
no no no no. It's not an act. It's not
an act.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's a sexual orientation on the asexual spectrum.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, I don't like that definition. I don't like that definition.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Describe asexual makes you think there's no sex, and that's
not the case. Describe it's actually a lot of sex.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Describing individuals who experience sexual attraction only towards people they
don't know well exactly, they said, once a deep bond
or a familiarity is established, the attraction fades or disappears
completely exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It goes against it goes against linear what if they
call it fixed, linear and predictable trajectory. So they say,
in most people, in most people, people meet, their attraction grows,
emotional intimacy deepens, and sexual desire strengthens.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That makes it sound like a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But it's not like that's just a normal progression, right.
Phrase sexuality is you get you want a lot of activity, activity,
until we start getting to know each other, and then
there's an intimacy, not sexual intimacy, but like an emotional intimacy.
And once we start bonding, goodbye, not goodbye like I'm
(02:45):
leaving you, but the desire either goes down dramatically or away.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And they said, a lot of people, a lot of
people don't even know that that's a thing, they said.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
A lot of people just think like I'm broken.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
How I am?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, but there's something wrong with them, Okay, that they're
because it doesn't go it doesn't go in the right order,
not at all. Yeah, So people think like there's something
wrong with me, and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wrong with you. That's who you are, that's how you're born.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah. I wasn't saying not at all, as in, it's
not in the right order. It is not in the
expected Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, it's not in the traditional orderline or the taught order.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I mean I was teaching you that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But you know what I mean, phrase sexuality.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's debilitating. No, if you want to have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
They do say you need to have an understanding partner,
and they talk about all the different types of intimacy
there there are.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But until maybe someone's helping you through this, you're rather confused.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I would assume, well, there's that part of it, but
then you also have the the.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Partner part of it, where.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The partner's also so the person who's phrase sexual they
think there's something wrong with them, like they're broken, and
then the partner thinks, like, what did I do?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Dustin didn't pop his head and there to tell Kristen
that he's heard of this, did he?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh? I think he said? I am is Dustin frase? No,
but I don't want anybody to be embarrassed. That's who
you are. Could I find somebody that's pray sexual?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Or there may be somebody who just just diagnose somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or you've given them and given them a diagnosis. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I mean, because you've laid out the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, like meet that's me. Yeah, you meet someone.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Dustin keeps waving Dustin's phrase sexual pass it on?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, No, but that makes it sound like it's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's not if you have an understanding relationship or.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You just or you know yourself and you're only gonna
date people until you get to know them and then.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Then you Yeah, and is the stranger? Is that the
word you use strangers for? See how that you're you're
highly attracted to? Is that desire like off the charts
because you lose it when it comes to knowing them?
Oh it has to be so are you the extreme
side of it? Where you're essentially like a dog hump
in a blanket. Yeah, don't you read about it, I'm
(05:19):
asking you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I would think that maybe at its deepest, desire is
just seeing somebody and being like, God, I want to
bang that or mess around with it.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
People say that, who I don't think are phrase sexual?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, but but for a phrase sexual, that is it
like like I don't want to get to know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You, I need to have it that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, yeah, but not like I need to have it
I'm getting it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, no, no, no, but from a desire standpoint.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, Christian, will you see if you can find me
somebody who thinks they're phrase sexual or believes they're phrase sexual.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Or was the object in the beginning of a phrase
sexual's covets? Oh my god, don't say it that way.
I think you're like the hottest thing in the world,
but the object of a covet.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But doesn't everybody think they're the object of a covet?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Not to what you're saying. Maybe so deep where you're like, God,
this person really wants me.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah they do, they do.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, but there are varying degrees of that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, but They also say, Krista, but see if you
can find me what did you call it?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
An object of a covet.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Sometimes at the end of the night at the club
or I can't speak to this because I've never done it.
But isn't it just like all right, yeah, just like
slim pickens or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh what is that saying she's a she's a two
at ten but a ten at two.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I mean that makes sense? Yeah, yeah, that's the sense.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, Kristen, she's a two at ten.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Me, she's not really attractive at ten pm, but at
two am, she's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, butterface, but she's hot at two am.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He's got it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You're saying that's different. Say again, you're saying the body's nice.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, everything everything.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And by the way, they they do say, well, let
me give the number eight six six to Elliott eight
six six two three five five four six eight someone
who is someone who either is phray sexual. I've just
given you your diagnosis or you were on the receiving
end of that. And men can be phrase sexual, women
can be phrase sexual.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It does it pop up more on one side? I
don't think so it's split fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know about that, but I didn't see anything
where it's like, oh, this is a dude problem. And
I already know every guy's phrase sexual? Is that everybody?
Every guy who wants getting your pants?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They're from all or in India.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yes, line four, Hi, elliot the morning. Hello, Yeah, oh hi,
who's this?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
My name is Lauren.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, Lauren, what can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Okay, I've never heard of this before, but I'm diagnosing.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Myself with it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You're phray sexual, I think so.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
Like I said, I've never heard of it before, but
it makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
There's the thing for it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
In what way? Like how is it? How is it
with you?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Like I've never been in like really a lot of
long term relationships because yeah, once I get to know
the person, I can feel like obsessed with you until
I get to know you and then I'm like, oh
then you're bored, yeah, or I just like strong, just liking.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What about but what about physically physically?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I'm not gonna touch you if I don't like you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, I meant early on, early.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
On, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, we can hook.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Up and then if it like moves beyond that and.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I get to know your personality, that's where you know,
most of the time I lose interest.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hey what's been? But so so two things. Right, you're
phray sexual.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You are so like within five minutes of meeting somebody
or just bumping into somebody in your head, you're like,
I'd bang that out in a second.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Yeah, And then like I can be like obsessed, like
I'm You're all I think about and then like by
day three, right.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But when you say think about it, like you mean
like like we're gonna be together. I'm gonna rock that
thing like crazy, like I'm getting after it, and then
like day three or four, you're like, nah, put it away,
don't even care?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah d three?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
Yeah, if I've met him more than three times, right,
but you've.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Already had No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's not because we've already had the sex and hooking up.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah have you ever had?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But here's what they were saying about phray sexuals, which
I don't like that. It's got a negative sounding name.
It's got a very negative sounding name.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, I like that rhymes even though you didn't think
it belongs on the asexual spectrum. It does rhyme, and
I always like a good rhyme. What fray sexual, that's asexual.
Oh but but you're not asexual but the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah no, because I was you're not you're not a sexual.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You're not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No. But is it a sexual? No sex at all?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But she said it's on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But not No, but there's not even a desire. Asexual
means there's not even a desire. Well, you don't even
get horny.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I mean, I like with celibate for a year and
I'm like really attractive, So.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's not I love you, let's be fray together. The no, no, no, no,
you know, but.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's what that's that's what. But they but you're not.
But but it wasn't because you didn't have any desire.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Right, Yeah. I was so turned off by like people
in general that I just didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
For a year.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What got you over the hump.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
What night stand?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
See? No? But and you say that and then you're like, oh,
people are going to think I'm slutty, but you're not.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You're fray sexual.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
No, I just do what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, you know what instead of fray that it, but
instead of fray rhyming with a for sexual, fray is okay,
thank you, thank you the yeah, no, it makes total sense.
It makes total sense to me. What's the longest relationship
(12:05):
you've had?
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Okay, I was in a long term relationship, but that's
a long story and we didn't have that so.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Right, but you did early on when you just when
you when you two first got together.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We did yeah yeah, wait.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You were doing everything with that bang yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And you're a good looking girl.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I am, you know, And they say they say that
just because so like you, you you take the sex
away from it, right that just emotionally you're bonded with
someone that even free sexuals, you could still remain emotionally
attached to them very much so and still be in
love with them. But it's just this part dies, I
(12:52):
shouldn't say it about that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, exactly. You're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You've been diagnosed, you've been diagnosed, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Someone on Snapchat brought up another one of your go
to sayings.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Atal.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, and I think they had the phrasing off a
little bit, but it was like it's like they show
me the hottest woman in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh yeah, show me the most beautiful woman in the world,
and I'll show you the guy who's bored with efn or.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I don't think that's what this is.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, no, no, no, I can tell you that it's a
say at the bottom of course, it is common for
sexual desire to diminish over time in any long term relationship.
That isn't necessarily a sign of phrase sexuality. Okay, some
people do have attachment and intimacy issues and experience sexual
(13:43):
or intimacy disconnections with their partners. So they're just saying,
over time, it may it mayane.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes that it may wane, but that's not pray sexual right.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, I can't believe, for the collar how fast it happened.
I thought it's like getting to know someone on a
deeper level.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, how much. I mean I had sex right then
and there physically.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh but like three dates? How much do you know?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You don't want to know anything, right, No, But.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's the more you learn, the more you get turned off.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
By the way, if you go out on three dates
with somebody like you're talking at that point, like you're
learning stuff about them, it's not all done like, well,
all right, we just had sex. Let me drop you off.
Like you're talking, you're learning, I may know where you
grew up, what you do for a living, and you're
telling me that, and I'm like, you know, you're giving
me lib day here.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So no, you are so well it is, but it's
not bad. It's just I'm now like, sh don't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So it's it's affecting not only desire.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't know that you can't get a boner.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, so you don't know if there's I don't think
there's a rectile dysfunction. Okay, Yeah, it's just it's just
you don't want it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Pray is okay, but it is a struggle.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Like Rumpel Foreskins just wrote, wow phrase, sexuality is opening
my eyes to a lot of problems I have in relationships.
I always thought I was being self destructive nose.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A lot of people do think they're broken, or.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You could see someone feeling like nope, I'm falling too fast,
or I don't want to commit this hard, or I
just got out of a relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But it's in mine. I will yell I love you
in first hump.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I know, I know, but it's you're wired to not
want that and then lose sexual desire because of it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But when you say it like that, it sounds bad.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, I'm describing it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, but that's who you are. Yeah, the same way
I'm short.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I'm mean, man, I think there's a song about that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's how I'm wired to be sure doesn't want it?
Where am I going? Oh so? But so so?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But if you go back to Rumpel, Rumpel the he
thinks that he was just but why did he Well,
he just didn't want the person physically anymore, but thought
that he was intentionally blowing it up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But the truth is he just he wants, you know,
what he wants to keep turning over new stones. The
new stones are what he wants.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Because that's what he's being told.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But you know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But when they when but yeah, I was gonna say,
why would you even get in a relationship because there
is still the mental or the emotional attachment.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You could still be in love. You could still be
in love. They say.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Some phrase sexual couples where one is uh, where one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is frey and the other is nay. They end up
in open relationships.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I couldn't do that, They hand, the constant need to
meet somebody new.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, the.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Partner is like, Okay, you got yours for three dates.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
What about the rest of my life for me? They like,
let me get a little wiggler.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Now, Timmy.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
But if there's that emotional attachment, you don't want to
you know, I don't want to sit.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
There and look over and watch you ride out. Somebody
say good.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Timmy says. It sounds like people just love the thrill
of the hunt and the chase, and then they move on.
I don't get that sense either.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, because those people are also capable of meeting somebody
and settling down and having a relationship for years. Listen,
everybody loves the excitement of the hunt and the chase.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Everybody does, or you would never get with anybody, didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You just the other day talk about how you went
through a bad period of blind dates.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, but you know what, going into every one of
them was freaking awesome.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I loved going into every one of them. Because you
have no idea. It's like buying a scratcher.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, you don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You you may have just you may have won nothing,
or you or you know what you had, you had
a decent conversation with someone, or you're a millionaire, like
that's the that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I thought you went to some begrudgingly. I didn't realize
there was thrill associated with all of them.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, yes, they're great now, I mean that could turn
like that, right, yeah. I mean you can make a
corner and see them at the bar and be like,
oh god, here comes a disastrous two hours.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh but I don't see anybody I know.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, but going there, Oh, you you're getting rich by
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's buying a scratch off. It's great.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Now. This sounds different too, But then again, this all
may be on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't like that term pray is.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Okay from Instagram. I might be too, dang it. It
makes sense a woman. I will put someone on a
pedestal and have sex with them, but I am fearful
of emotional connection after, mostly because I don't want them
to to know me.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's not sex.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Therefore I don't want them. But the physical attractiveness is
there until talking.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Huh's oh yeah, that's that's muddy waters. Yeah, that's just
because you don't want somebody to know you. But it
sounds like they still want to have the.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sex without knowing the person.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Or getting to know them, Like, I don't think it's
just some day. Don't tell me your name.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now a phrase sexual may realize when they get to
know somebody it causes problems. But at first it's they
have no problem before they've diagnosed themselves or someone else
has told them what's going on? Do they have a
problem with opening up? But they open up and go, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it's not even them opening up, it's the other
person opening up.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, but how one sighted are you going to make
the conversation?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Tell me more about your don't tell me anything about
yourself that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Don't care where you were born, Nope, I don't care
what you do for a living.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Let me tell you all about.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Me line, so it can be you. You're allowed to share.
I thought it was more mutual.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, I mean, what am I going to just sit
there in silence and hope? Well, it ain't gonna get bigger?
Want to do something with it? Like what am I
supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I thought that that connection, So that's two parties was
the problem. Yeah, so it's it's info about you, info
about But I like myself.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But if I don't learn anything about you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I still just like me, Hi yell in the morning,
a selfish lover perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Hello elliot, Yo, what's the worst STD?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
To catch?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
The worst STD.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Feeling?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm like my whole life and I've never heard that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's good, it's funny. Line four, Hi YoY in the morning,
Good morning? Hi? Who's this.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Kitty in Fairfax? I just want to say I'm prayse
sexual and my husband is demisexual. You know, it's his suggestion.
Demi sexual is like the opposites where you want to
have the relationship part and I'm more like no, I
just want the newness. But it was his suggestion to
open a relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So wait a minute, so you hold on.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I got to get my seat belt.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So you want you love the like you want the
physical stuff, but you still love him right, like emotionally
you're still there?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
God, yes, yeah, of course, yes, our relationship is great
the so but.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You you like it, you like it fresh early on,
not in the day. I meant like in the relationship
and he's like eh and wants to wait.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But once the emotional relationship does he does he want
the sex? Does he want the sex at all?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Sure? Right? But he's more into like the girlfriends relationships thing,
and I'm like, don't yuck my youm I just want
some you know, new guy.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Right. So now you're in an open marriage, yes? And
are are you both? Are you both open?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
So he's got a bunch of girlfriends and you just
have a bunch of sex part well no, but yes, yes, right,
so okay he has girlfriends, you have sex partners. Yes,
But do you have to go through a lot of
sex partners because you don't want them to become boyfriends?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
You know, my need isn't that high, so it's not
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Hell, But what I'm saying is you don't keep with
these guys for long periods of time.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You get them. I don't want to say you use them,
but yeah, okay, yeah, get out of them what you want.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And are these people that you've known or new people
that you meet?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Oh no, they're new, new awesome.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Are you meeting them on an app or in person? No?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I'm not on the apps. It's just random, huh?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Random?
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Like what you like?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You at subway?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Literally?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, you met somebody at a subway and you were like,
give me the Italian b MT.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
While you're making it. Hey, you know I'm in an
open marriage.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Hey, what's your story?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
How are you having that conversation?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
It's it's wild wild, Yes, that's food establishments.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, you literally will tell somebody I'm in an open
marriage and I find you attractive.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
No, they hit on me. I don't start it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Is that because your shirt explains it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So you and I are at subway, You and I
are at subway right, and i'm I'm I'm before you
and I order right.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I'm getting Often it is the employee, yis it's the
other customers, Oh, hi, how.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Are you the You look very pretty today? What's your name?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Literally, I'm a woman. It's easier for women.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
No, but at some point you still have to say, hey,
just so you know, I'm in an open marriage, let's
have sex.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh okay, Well that's I mean every guy's phrase sexually.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So can I ask you this? When is the When
is the last new person you had sex with?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
It was like a month ago.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Where'd you meet him? I don't wait?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Say again, you didn't want to get into details.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
When you get that high pitch, I can't understand you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I met him, I met him. You know, I'm around the.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Tyler would yeah, we'd come on.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You've already told me that you're in an open marriage,
an established, an established man.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where where did you meet him?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Oh? Establishment, I don't want to say where.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You also specialized in submarine sandwiches.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Okay, so you met him.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
You met him at a at a sandwich place, And
did you have sex with him that day?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
A little text thing and then like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Is your was your husband home when you had sex
with him?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Not him?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Not him, but he's been home for other guys. Does
he watch or is he like, uh, NAT's games on?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
I mean if he's if he's home and we're doing
it there, he likes to watch.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Can I ask you this? Can I honest question right
when he's watching? Does he masturbate?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I mean, I assume so I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Got a girl, Now you focus on me, listen. I didn't.
I didn't end this sandwich shift early.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Ignored.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And now let me ask you this, like when when
with his girlfriends? Right, with his girlfriends, what do you like, like?
Do they go out? Do they do anything?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
They go out on dates. I don't want to be
involved in that. I'm not like him. I don't want
to be involved.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You do your thing, right, But they don't have But
you don't think they're having sex.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's just the companionship. The companion What do you mean? Okay,
you realize, ma'am, you're not phrase sexual.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just the two of you open marriage where you're banging
another beat, which is totally fond. I don't know what
that means.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's the opposite you think.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I remember that he more, he's more interested in the relationship,
the emotional kind, but.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
He still having sex.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But he has to get to that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He's got to get to it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so they have to mean something to him. That
makes it sound like girl, you a hoe?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, No, but they don't have to. They don't have
to mean something to you, right, was it pop?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Elly? The Works?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Jimmy John's Fire?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Fires?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Ubs? Wow? And how long have you too? How long
have you two been married?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Years?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Good for you?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Good for you?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Can I ask you this if you had to guess,
if you had to guess, and I'm not I'm listen,
I'm not judging you. Guys found a way to make
it work. I think that's that's admirable in twenty years
other than your husband. How many dudes have you had
sex with?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
One hundred?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It wasn't open whole time? But no, no, let ten ten.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh that's nothing, bro, don't ask.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
The other question. I'm not answering that one. I can anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So no, what do you mean you can anymore?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Not anymore?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You didn't did you break it?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Let's just go with yeah, oh someone got the ib s. No,
I'm just protecting my house.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
All right, very good. What is trump button?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's when it's the protrusion of the cavity.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh no, no, an image search? All right, very good,
very good, all right, it's very nice. I love you too,
Thank you, thank you. I'll see it the sandwich chop. Wow.
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I'm shock she only said ten.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The well, she said, they haven't been opened the whole time.
It may be a recent thing. I mean that may
just be within the last couple of weeks. Is she
is she frey?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is that just an open marriage?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But one likes relationships, it's gonna take a while, versus
I just want to have it there.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But she said, like they're friends.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Based on your definition.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's not classic freg.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's not classic fre you know a word we just learned.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I don't think it's classic fray.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I don't either. I don't even I don't. It's not
because phrase sexuality is on that asexuality spectrum. She's not
a sexual, no, no, not very sexual. I think it's
a result of her husband's demisexuality. I do believe that right.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
By the way, I've never even heard of that word.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, just like fray.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I've known Frey longer than DEMI.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Someone also mentioned gray sexuals old people. I don't think
it's that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh I don't know what it is, that gray sexual
it's got to be old people.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's not. It's on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh my god, can we stop saying that sexual.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Attraction only rarely, infrequently at a low intensity.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh so it's like like the gray area, they say, wait,
say that again.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It is you rarely have sexual feelings, and.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
When you do, it's at a low level. So you're like,
you're like, you're a fish. What you're just laying there
like a fish? Better than a trunk, dude, I do
not want a trunk. But hell no, hell no, I'm
with that girl.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Learn a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, all these terms I'd never even heard before.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
The quite a few people thinking that you did help
them out.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Though you know what. You're welcome, Doctor Siegel.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, no, no, but don't wouldn't you feel better knowing
that that's that's just who you are.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
You can delve into a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Well, not not only that, but.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It's it's who you are and that you're not broken
or that when you're when when your partner doesn't think
you're broken, that that's just because you are capable of
love and being in long term relationships.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yes, it's just this. Don't want nothing, You got it.
Pray sexual. Have you ever heard that term? No, I've
never heard of it either, And I don't know. I
don't know that it is.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Is it negative?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Would people have a negative connotation of it? No?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't think so. I don't think so. Anybody can
be pray sexual.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We referenced the spelling be earlier. Yes, I don't know
what that prefix means. All I'm thinking of is the
band the fray?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Why do you think that that's somehow related?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ah? No?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But why would you call yourself that?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But fray means like like like a struggle, right, the.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No, because can you have like a wire that's fray,
that's frayed.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Past tense?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So that's like worn down, worn down?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But isn't conflict or struggle?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is this struggle sexual?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Does that struggle bus sexual?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Does that get you somehow to?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The actual definition of phrase sexual.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't think so. I don't think so. Diane, look
up phrase sexual, Look up frase fray.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Does she have to turn off a filter?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The Oh? I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no,
no no no no. It's not an act. It's not
an act.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's a sexual orientation on the asexual spectrum.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, I don't like that definition. I don't like that definition.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Describe asexual makes you think there's no sex, and that's
not the case. Describe it's actually a lot of sex.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Describing individuals who experience sexual attraction only towards people they
don't know well exactly, they said, once a deep bond
or a familiarity is established, the attraction fades or disappears
completely exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It goes against it goes against linear what if they
call it fixed, linear and predictable trajectory. So they say,
in most people, in most people, people meet, their attraction grows,
emotional intimacy deepens, and sexual desire strengthens.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That makes it sound like a long time.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But it's not like that's just a normal progression, right.
Phrase sexuality is you get you want a lot of activity, activity,
until we start getting to know each other, and then
there's an intimacy, not sexual intimacy, but like an emotional intimacy.
And once we start bonding, goodbye, not goodbye like I'm
(02:45):
leaving you, but the desire either goes down dramatically or away.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And they said, a lot of people, a lot of
people don't even know that that's a thing, they said.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
A lot of people just think like I'm broken.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
How I am?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, but there's something wrong with them, Okay, that they're
because it doesn't go it doesn't go in the right order,
not at all. Yeah, So people think like there's something
wrong with me, and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Wrong with you. That's who you are, that's how you're born.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah. I wasn't saying not at all, as in, it's
not in the right order. It is not in the
expected Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, it's not in the traditional orderline or the taught order.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I mean I was teaching you that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But you know what I mean, phrase sexuality.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's debilitating. No, if you want to have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
They do say you need to have an understanding partner,
and they talk about all the different types of intimacy
there there are.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But until maybe someone's helping you through this, you're rather confused.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I would assume, well, there's that part of it, but
then you also have the the.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Partner part of it, where.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The partner's also so the person who's phrase sexual they
think there's something wrong with them, like they're broken, and
then the partner thinks, like, what did I do?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Dustin didn't pop his head and there to tell Kristen
that he's heard of this, did he?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh? I think he said? I am is Dustin frase? No,
but I don't want anybody to be embarrassed. That's who
you are. Could I find somebody that's pray sexual?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Or there may be somebody who just just diagnose somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or you've given them and given them a diagnosis. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I mean, because you've laid out the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, like meet that's me. Yeah, you meet someone.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Dustin keeps waving Dustin's phrase sexual pass it on?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, No, but that makes it sound like it's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's not if you have an understanding relationship or.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You just or you know yourself and you're only gonna
date people until you get to know them and then.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Then you Yeah, and is the stranger? Is that the
word you use strangers for? See how that you're you're
highly attracted to? Is that desire like off the charts
because you lose it when it comes to knowing them?
Oh it has to be so are you the extreme
side of it? Where you're essentially like a dog hump
in a blanket. Yeah, don't you read about it, I'm
(05:19):
asking you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I would think that maybe at its deepest, desire is
just seeing somebody and being like, God, I want to
bang that or mess around with it.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
People say that, who I don't think are phrase sexual?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, but but for a phrase sexual, that is it
like like I don't want to get to know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You, I need to have it that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, yeah, but not like I need to have it
I'm getting it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
No, no, no, no, but from a desire standpoint.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, Christian, will you see if you can find me
somebody who thinks they're phrase sexual or believes they're phrase sexual.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Or was the object in the beginning of a phrase
sexual's covets? Oh my god, don't say it that way.
I think you're like the hottest thing in the world,
but the object of a covet.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But doesn't everybody think they're the object of a covet?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Not to what you're saying. Maybe so deep where you're like, God,
this person really wants me.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah they do, they do.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, but there are varying degrees of that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, but They also say, Krista, but see if you
can find me what did you call it?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
An object of a covet.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Sometimes at the end of the night at the club
or I can't speak to this because I've never done it.
But isn't it just like all right, yeah, just like
slim pickens or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh what is that saying she's a she's a two
at ten but a ten at two.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I mean that makes sense? Yeah, yeah, that's the sense.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, Kristen, she's a two at ten.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Me, she's not really attractive at ten pm, but at
two am, she's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, butterface, but she's hot at two am.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
He's got it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You're saying that's different. Say again, you're saying the body's nice.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, everything everything.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And by the way, they they do say, well, let
me give the number eight six six to Elliott eight
six six two three five five four six eight someone
who is someone who either is phray sexual. I've just
given you your diagnosis or you were on the receiving
end of that. And men can be phrase sexual, women
can be phrase sexual.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It does it pop up more on one side? I
don't think so it's split fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know about that, but I didn't see anything
where it's like, oh, this is a dude problem. And
I already know every guy's phrase sexual? Is that everybody?
Every guy who wants getting your pants?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They're from all or in India.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yes, line four, Hi, elliot the morning. Hello, Yeah, oh hi,
who's this?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
My name is Lauren.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, Lauren, what can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Okay, I've never heard of this before, but I'm diagnosing.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Myself with it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You're phray sexual, I think so.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
Like I said, I've never heard of it before, but
it makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
There's the thing for it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
In what way? Like how is it? How is it
with you?
Speaker 7 (08:35):
Like I've never been in like really a lot of
long term relationships because yeah, once I get to know
the person, I can feel like obsessed with you until
I get to know you and then I'm like, oh
then you're bored, yeah, or I just like strong, just liking.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What about but what about physically physically?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I'm not gonna touch you if I don't like you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, I meant early on, early.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
On, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, we can hook.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Up and then if it like moves beyond that and.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I get to know your personality, that's where you know,
most of the time I lose interest.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hey what's been? But so so two things. Right, you're
phray sexual.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
You are so like within five minutes of meeting somebody
or just bumping into somebody in your head, you're like,
I'd bang that out in a second.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
Yeah, And then like I can be like obsessed, like
I'm You're all I think about and then like by
day three, right.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But when you say think about it, like you mean
like like we're gonna be together. I'm gonna rock that
thing like crazy, like I'm getting after it, and then
like day three or four, you're like, nah, put it away,
don't even care?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah d three?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
Yeah, if I've met him more than three times, right,
but you've.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Already had No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's not because we've already had the sex and hooking up.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah have you ever had?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But here's what they were saying about phray sexuals, which
I don't like that. It's got a negative sounding name.
It's got a very negative sounding name.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, I like that rhymes even though you didn't think
it belongs on the asexual spectrum. It does rhyme, and
I always like a good rhyme. What fray sexual, that's asexual.
Oh but but you're not asexual but the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah no, because I was you're not you're not a sexual.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You're not a doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No. But is it a sexual? No sex at all?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But she said it's on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But not No, but there's not even a desire. Asexual
means there's not even a desire. Well, you don't even
get horny.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I mean, I like with celibate for a year and
I'm like really attractive, So.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's not I love you, let's be fray together. The no, no, no, no,
you know, but.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's what that's that's what. But they but you're not.
But but it wasn't because you didn't have any desire.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Right, Yeah. I was so turned off by like people
in general that I just didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
For a year.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
What got you over the hump.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
What night stand?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
See? No? But and you say that and then you're like, oh,
people are going to think I'm slutty, but you're not.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You're fray sexual.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
No, I just do what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, you know what instead of fray that it, but
instead of fray rhyming with a for sexual, fray is okay,
thank you, thank you the yeah, no, it makes total sense.
It makes total sense to me. What's the longest relationship
(12:05):
you've had?
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Okay, I was in a long term relationship, but that's
a long story and we didn't have that so.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Right, but you did early on when you just when
you when you two first got together.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We did yeah yeah, wait.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You were doing everything with that bang yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And you're a good looking girl.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I am, you know, And they say they say that
just because so like you, you you take the sex
away from it, right that just emotionally you're bonded with
someone that even free sexuals, you could still remain emotionally
attached to them very much so and still be in
love with them. But it's just this part dies, I
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shouldn't say it about that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, exactly. You're welcome, You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You've been diagnosed, you've been diagnosed, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Someone on Snapchat brought up another one of your go
to sayings.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Atal.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, and I think they had the phrasing off a
little bit, but it was like it's like they show
me the hottest woman in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh yeah, show me the most beautiful woman in the world,
and I'll show you the guy who's bored with efn or.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I don't think that's what this is.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, no, no, no, I can tell you that it's a
say at the bottom of course, it is common for
sexual desire to diminish over time in any long term relationship.
That isn't necessarily a sign of phrase sexuality. Okay, some
people do have attachment and intimacy issues and experience sexual
(13:43):
or intimacy disconnections with their partners. So they're just saying,
over time, it may it mayane.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes that it may wane, but that's not pray sexual right.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, I can't believe, for the collar how fast it happened.
I thought it's like getting to know someone on a
deeper level.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, how much. I mean I had sex right then
and there physically.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh but like three dates? How much do you know?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You don't want to know anything, right, No, But.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's the more you learn, the more you get turned off.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
By the way, if you go out on three dates
with somebody like you're talking at that point, like you're
learning stuff about them, it's not all done like, well,
all right, we just had sex. Let me drop you off.
Like you're talking, you're learning, I may know where you
grew up, what you do for a living, and you're
telling me that, and I'm like, you know, you're giving
me lib day here.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So no, you are so well it is, but it's
not bad. It's just I'm now like, sh don't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So it's it's affecting not only desire.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't know that you can't get a boner.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, so you don't know if there's I don't think
there's a rectile dysfunction. Okay, Yeah, it's just it's just
you don't want it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Pray is okay, but it is a struggle.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Like Rumpel Foreskins just wrote, wow phrase, sexuality is opening
my eyes to a lot of problems I have in relationships.
I always thought I was being self destructive nose.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
A lot of people do think they're broken, or.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You could see someone feeling like nope, I'm falling too fast,
or I don't want to commit this hard, or I
just got out of a relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But it's in mine. I will yell I love you
in first hump.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I know, I know, but it's you're wired to not
want that and then lose sexual desire because of it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But when you say it like that, it sounds bad.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, I'm describing it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, but that's who you are. Yeah, the same way
I'm short.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I'm mean, man, I think there's a song about that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's how I'm wired to be sure doesn't want it?
Where am I going? Oh so? But so so?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But if you go back to Rumpel, Rumpel the he
thinks that he was just but why did he Well,
he just didn't want the person physically anymore, but thought
that he was intentionally blowing it up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
But the truth is he just he wants, you know,
what he wants to keep turning over new stones. The
new stones are what he wants.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Because that's what he's being told.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But you know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But when they when but yeah, I was gonna say,
why would you even get in a relationship because there
is still the mental or the emotional attachment.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You could still be in love. You could still be
in love. They say.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Some phrase sexual couples where one is uh, where one.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is frey and the other is nay. They end up
in open relationships.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I couldn't do that, They hand, the constant need to
meet somebody new.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, the.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Partner is like, Okay, you got yours for three dates.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
What about the rest of my life for me? They like,
let me get a little wiggler.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Now, Timmy.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
But if there's that emotional attachment, you don't want to
you know, I don't want to sit.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
There and look over and watch you ride out. Somebody
say good.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Timmy says. It sounds like people just love the thrill
of the hunt and the chase, and then they move on.
I don't get that sense either.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, because those people are also capable of meeting somebody
and settling down and having a relationship for years. Listen,
everybody loves the excitement of the hunt and the chase.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Everybody does, or you would never get with anybody, didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You just the other day talk about how you went
through a bad period of blind dates.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, but you know what, going into every one of
them was freaking awesome.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I loved going into every one of them. Because you
have no idea. It's like buying a scratcher.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Okay, you don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You you may have just you may have won nothing,
or you or you know what you had, you had
a decent conversation with someone, or you're a millionaire, like
that's the that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I thought you went to some begrudgingly. I didn't realize
there was thrill associated with all of them.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, yes, they're great now, I mean that could turn
like that, right, yeah. I mean you can make a
corner and see them at the bar and be like,
oh god, here comes a disastrous two hours.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh but I don't see anybody I know.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, but going there, Oh, you you're getting rich by
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's buying a scratch off. It's great.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Now. This sounds different too, But then again, this all
may be on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I don't like that term pray is.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Okay from Instagram. I might be too, dang it. It
makes sense a woman. I will put someone on a
pedestal and have sex with them, but I am fearful
of emotional connection after, mostly because I don't want them
to to know me.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's not sex.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Therefore I don't want them. But the physical attractiveness is
there until talking.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Huh's oh yeah, that's that's muddy waters. Yeah, that's just
because you don't want somebody to know you. But it
sounds like they still want to have the.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sex without knowing the person.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Or getting to know them, Like, I don't think it's
just some day. Don't tell me your name.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now a phrase sexual may realize when they get to
know somebody it causes problems. But at first it's they
have no problem before they've diagnosed themselves or someone else
has told them what's going on? Do they have a
problem with opening up? But they open up and go, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it's not even them opening up, it's the other
person opening up.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, but how one sighted are you going to make
the conversation?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Tell me more about your don't tell me anything about
yourself that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Don't care where you were born, Nope, I don't care
what you do for a living.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Let me tell you all about.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Me line, so it can be you. You're allowed to share.
I thought it was more mutual.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, I mean, what am I going to just sit
there in silence and hope? Well, it ain't gonna get bigger?
Want to do something with it? Like what am I
supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I thought that that connection, So that's two parties was
the problem. Yeah, so it's it's info about you, info
about But I like myself.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But if I don't learn anything about you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I still just like me, Hi yell in the morning,
a selfish lover perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Hello elliot, Yo, what's the worst STD?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
To catch?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
The worst STD.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Feeling?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm like my whole life and I've never heard that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's good, it's funny. Line four, Hi YoY in the morning,
Good morning? Hi? Who's this.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Kitty in Fairfax? I just want to say I'm prayse
sexual and my husband is demisexual. You know, it's his suggestion.
Demi sexual is like the opposites where you want to
have the relationship part and I'm more like no, I
just want the newness. But it was his suggestion to
open a relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So wait a minute, so you hold on.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I got to get my seat belt.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So you want you love the like you want the
physical stuff, but you still love him right, like emotionally
you're still there?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
God, yes, yeah, of course, yes, our relationship is great
the so but.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You you like it, you like it fresh early on,
not in the day. I meant like in the relationship
and he's like eh and wants to wait.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But once the emotional relationship does he does he want
the sex? Does he want the sex at all?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Sure? Right? But he's more into like the girlfriends relationships thing,
and I'm like, don't yuck my youm I just want
some you know, new guy.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Right. So now you're in an open marriage, yes? And
are are you both? Are you both open?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
So he's got a bunch of girlfriends and you just
have a bunch of sex part well no, but yes, yes, right,
so okay he has girlfriends, you have sex partners. Yes,
But do you have to go through a lot of
sex partners because you don't want them to become boyfriends?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
You know, my need isn't that high, so it's not
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Hell, But what I'm saying is you don't keep with
these guys for long periods of time.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You get them. I don't want to say you use them,
but yeah, okay, yeah, get out of them what you want.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And are these people that you've known or new people
that you meet?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Oh no, they're new, new awesome.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Are you meeting them on an app or in person? No?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
I'm not on the apps. It's just random, huh?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Random?
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Like what you like?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You at subway?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Literally?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, you met somebody at a subway and you were like,
give me the Italian b MT.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
While you're making it. Hey, you know I'm in an
open marriage.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Hey, what's your story?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
How are you having that conversation?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
It's it's wild wild, Yes, that's food establishments.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yes, you literally will tell somebody I'm in an open
marriage and I find you attractive.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
No, they hit on me. I don't start it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Is that because your shirt explains it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't get that.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So you and I are at subway, You and I
are at subway right, and i'm I'm I'm before you
and I order right.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I'm getting Often it is the employee, yis it's the
other customers, Oh, hi, how.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Are you the You look very pretty today? What's your name?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Literally, I'm a woman. It's easier for women.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
No, but at some point you still have to say, hey,
just so you know, I'm in an open marriage, let's
have sex.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh okay, Well that's I mean every guy's phrase sexually.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So can I ask you this? When is the When
is the last new person you had sex with?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
It was like a month ago.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Where'd you meet him? I don't wait?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Say again, you didn't want to get into details.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
When you get that high pitch, I can't understand you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I met him, I met him. You know, I'm around the.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Tyler would yeah, we'd come on.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You've already told me that you're in an open marriage,
an established, an established man.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where where did you meet him?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Oh? Establishment, I don't want to say where.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You also specialized in submarine sandwiches.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Okay, so you met him.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
You met him at a at a sandwich place, And
did you have sex with him that day?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
A little text thing and then like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Is your was your husband home when you had sex
with him?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Not him?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Not him, but he's been home for other guys. Does
he watch or is he like, uh, NAT's games on?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
I mean if he's if he's home and we're doing
it there, he likes to watch.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Can I ask you this? Can I honest question right
when he's watching? Does he masturbate?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I mean, I assume so I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Got a girl, Now you focus on me, listen. I didn't.
I didn't end this sandwich shift early.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Ignored.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And now let me ask you this, like when when
with his girlfriends? Right, with his girlfriends, what do you like, like?
Do they go out? Do they do anything?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
They go out on dates. I don't want to be
involved in that. I'm not like him. I don't want
to be involved.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You do your thing, right, But they don't have But
you don't think they're having sex.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
It's just the companionship. The companion What do you mean? Okay,
you realize, ma'am, you're not phrase sexual.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just the two of you open marriage where you're banging
another beat, which is totally fond. I don't know what
that means.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's the opposite you think.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I remember that he more, he's more interested in the relationship,
the emotional kind, but.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
He still having sex.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But he has to get to that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He's got to get to it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so they have to mean something to him. That
makes it sound like girl, you a hoe?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, No, but they don't have to. They don't have
to mean something to you, right, was it pop?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Elly? The Works?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Jimmy John's Fire?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Fires?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Ubs? Wow? And how long have you too? How long
have you two been married?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Years?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Good for you?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Good for you?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Can I ask you this if you had to guess,
if you had to guess, and I'm not I'm listen,
I'm not judging you. Guys found a way to make
it work. I think that's that's admirable in twenty years
other than your husband. How many dudes have you had
sex with?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
One hundred?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It wasn't open whole time? But no, no, let ten ten.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh that's nothing, bro, don't ask.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
The other question. I'm not answering that one. I can anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So no, what do you mean you can anymore?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Not anymore?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
You didn't did you break it?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Let's just go with yeah, oh someone got the ib s. No,
I'm just protecting my house.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
All right, very good. What is trump button?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's when it's the protrusion of the cavity.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh no, no, an image search? All right, very good,
very good, all right, it's very nice. I love you too,
Thank you, thank you. I'll see it the sandwich chop. Wow.
Can I ask a question?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I'm shock she only said ten.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The well, she said, they haven't been opened the whole time.
It may be a recent thing. I mean that may
just be within the last couple of weeks. Is she
is she frey?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Is that just an open marriage?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But one likes relationships, it's gonna take a while, versus
I just want to have it there.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But she said, like they're friends.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Based on your definition.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's not classic freg.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's not classic fre you know a word we just learned.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I don't think it's classic fray.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I don't either. I don't even I don't. It's not
because phrase sexuality is on that asexuality spectrum. She's not
a sexual, no, no, not very sexual. I think it's
a result of her husband's demisexuality. I do believe that right.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
By the way, I've never even heard of that word.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, just like fray.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I've known Frey longer than DEMI.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Someone also mentioned gray sexuals old people. I don't think
it's that.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh I don't know what it is, that gray sexual
it's got to be old people.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It's not. It's on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh my god, can we stop saying that sexual.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Attraction only rarely, infrequently at a low intensity.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh so it's like like the gray area, they say, wait,
say that again.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It is you rarely have sexual feelings, and.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
When you do, it's at a low level. So you're like,
you're like, you're a fish. What you're just laying there
like a fish? Better than a trunk, dude, I do
not want a trunk. But hell no, hell no, I'm
with that girl.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Learn a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, all these terms I'd never even heard before.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
The quite a few people thinking that you did help
them out.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Though you know what. You're welcome, Doctor Siegel.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, no, no, but don't wouldn't you feel better knowing
that that's that's just who you are.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
You can delve into a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Well, not not only that, but.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It's it's who you are and that you're not broken
or that when you're when when your partner doesn't think
you're broken, that that's just because you are capable of
love and being in long term relationships.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yes, it's just this. Don't want nothing, You got it.
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