EITM Hair-loom 10/10/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you see And I don't remember the name of it,
but there's a museum that's closing in Independence, Missouri, where
you've been. I can't is it the hair museum or
the Museum of hair? Which one is?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's Is it the hair museum?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yes, one of a kind hair museum.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Century old wreaths made from human hair filled the walls
of Layla's hair museum, and glass cases overflow with necklaces
and watch bands woven from the locks of the dead.
There are also tresses purported to come from past presidents,

(00:46):
from Hollywood legend Marilyn Monroe, and even Jesus himself. For
about thirty years, this hair art collection in the Kansas
City suburb of Independence attracted an eclectic group of gawkers
that included the likes of heavy metal legend Ozzy Osbourne.

(01:10):
I believe they have some of his hair or had
some of his hair, But is it the whole story?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The woman, the woman who ran the joint Layla is
it Kohoon Kahoon Bagoon.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
She died last year, so now they're trying to figure
out what well they were trying to figure out what.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
To do with all this hair museum stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, Diane makes it sound trashy. Not trash trash, No,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I mean yes, if you sit there and think like
that's made out of human hair?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
No, no, no, no, no, constantly reminded of that.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, you're you're really not.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I would I would argue that some of the stuff,
if you saw it, you wouldn't know it's human hair.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
So were they provided with the locks and they turned
it into wreaths? Or were they collecting a decor? I
wasn't familiar with which is hair wreaths? I had what
about hair bras?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
That's my favorite page on the website? That and hot
or Not seth and I used to go through it.
I haven't let that hot or not and so long I.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Think about it all the time. Um, I had your answer.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
This form of art Piete in popularity in the mid
eighteen hundreds, as women coiled the hair of the dead
into jewelry or told their family history by intertwining the
curls of loved ones into reads.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Is someone listening sitting next to a haath or returning
from work tonight to a home where they have a
shadow box with.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
A hair with a hair wreath or hair.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bra hair had fallen out of favor by the nineteen
forties as memories were captured in photos. However, this artwork
was not celebrated because it was mostly done by women
and in large museums.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
They don't have a lot of this. So does somebody
have human hair at home? That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
It sounds like they could.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, listen, I brought it up. So they're trying
to figure out what to do. Kris Dan, will you
do me a favor? Will you see if anybody has
why wouldn't it have to be in a shadow box?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Could they just have it?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Think it's something to display?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, oh, I bet I bet a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well back up, Elliott, if people have them, oh, I
would bet everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Doesn't have it displayed. They may have it like tucked
away somewhere, but it had.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
To be put into some sort of framing.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, absolutely sure. Absolutely. Can I ask this? Can I
ask this?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Are there people like, let's go, let's step by step
this thing. Are there people like let's say, let's say
I need somebody who's old but your grandparents?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh, just a relationship.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, well, I don't wish.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
This on anybody. But like, let's say, let's say somebody's
grandparent died. Are are there people who keep a lock.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Of the hair, like they asked the mortician to shave
them one?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, if not, how would you get it?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like, I mean, if I'm making a wreath, it's not
like a big Christmas wreath.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, but like it's small. I actually think they're very nice.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I've definitely never seen these before.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, and yes, is it creepy a little bit, but
but okay, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
N They're tastefully done.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'll give you that. I think what makes or introduces
that element of.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Eek our human hair?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
No, because you were right, I'll.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Give you may not know that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh, I don't think you would, but I don't think
you would have it.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Also, it's it's not on top of mind. It's not
like you're going, huh, I bet that's human hair. No,
you wouldn't think that. But it is tastefully done.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
But what I was gonna say is a lot of
these pieces are accompanied by old photographs, photographs, letters, notes.
But letters and notes if you're not reading them from
a distance, may not like scare you. But the photos
of the families with the very serious looks. I mean

(05:27):
it all it's like something you'd find in a haunted library.
Like it's right, So it all kind of it's the
sum of the part.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And everybody's missing a little chunk right here.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Like the eyes of the picture exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
No. No. But so anyway, the reason that I brought
it up, number one, it's weird as hell is so
there's these thirty thousand pieces of art, the hair art,
and it's being so this Khun woman she dies, and
they don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
They don't the other members of the family are like, what.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do we do with this?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, I got a job, I'm not doing this. So
they're dispersing it around. What's wrong?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I just was curious with the intersection, oh, saying if
we drove by it.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, there's a sheets right there, McDonald's KFC.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, there's a lot going on, and there.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
There's there's the hair barn, a lot of parking.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Anyway, some of the some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So they said, we'll be going to museums around the US,
including the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and
the National Museum of Women.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
In the Arts in d C. So some of the
hairs are coming.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Here are we getting Phyllis Dillers? She donated a hair
wreath that had been in her family for generations.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh so it's not hers is No, No, but it's
not it Dillers hair down right.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Oh but back to what I was saying, if I
went to the or maybe maybe I did it, does anybody.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
During the viewing?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm being serious, lean over and go, I'm gonna keep
a lock of the hair and just get a little
snip and keep some of the hair.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You better ask permission to do that.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
If it's if Jackie died, and I'm not wishing anything
on anybody.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
If I wanted to do that, who cares? What are
they gonna do? Yell let me. I'll be like, I
want to piece of my wife's hair.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's spouse. Yeah that's a little different.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, that's what I'm saying. You were at like the viewing.
I feel like I show up like no offense, Diane.
But when I showed up at Frank's viewing, I wasn't like, Hey,
is anybody looking?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I need some of Frank's hair. I'm making a wreath.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
No, No, but I think odds are better that you'd
find someone that maybe has had one of these done
for them, done in the family years ago, and that
years decades ago, and then it's just kind of been
passed down.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You don't think it goes on anymore. I bet it
does past.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Do you think you are still making this?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I thought you said it fell out of fashion in
the seventy five years ago in the forties.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, but I fell out of fashion doesn't mean it
became extinct.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Although safe money maybe on me. If I'm turning in
this cento a parlay, I've got the joke in and anything, right,
I can go two for two with this.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
New leg line.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
One. Hi Elliott the morning?

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Hi is this me?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Who's ass?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (08:30):
This is Becca from Richmond.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
And you had asked if anybody kept their hair or
anybody had hair sitting around, And I have a bag
of my pre cancer hair. When it was falling out,
I had to shave your head party and I still
have it my pre cancer hair.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, I'm sorry, I'm not going to count that. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Look, I don't mind if somebody makes it into something
after I'm dead, but I'm in remission.

Speaker 8 (09:04):
I'm good good.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, no, no, obviously, I'm very happy to hear that. Hey,
can I ask you this?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
You may know The answer to this is that A
is that is that more common than I than.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I than I know?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
People saving their hair.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I've never heard that. I've never heard that. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
I mean, it was so mine. I'm not sure about
other people.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Maybe I'm just weird, but I mine was so long
at the time, and it was it was pretty thick,
and so I you know, when I it was falling
out so fast, I shaved it off and then I
just stuck it out a bag and then randomly I
come across it every once in a while.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Like, oh, yeah, that's my hair.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, but you know what, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Like for example, like like like Jackie has a really
really good friend who I know very well. But today
today is her last treatment that she's going in for
and she like she lost she lost all of her
hair going through treatment, which, by the way, and I
don't know if it's just a confidence that she has
or if it is like legit, legit, she looks great bald, No,

(10:09):
I mean she really does.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Again, was she not wear wigs. Are you know what
the I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
If you really want to get into it. But a
buddy of mine, a buddy of mine sent her wigs
that his wife wore when when when she was going
through treatment, and Jackie's Frank got him, was like, no,
you know what, it's just it's not me.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's not me. And so she was she so she
she is bald. And I told Jackie, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I would say this to her face because nobody likes
to lose their hair. She looks great. And again, I
don't know if it's confidence. I don't know if it
is that, you know, that that fighter spirit. But like
I look at her and go hope her hair doesn't
come back. Like she looks great. I mean she really
really does. She looks fantastic.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I don't know if it ever crossed her mind, or
or if that's common, or it even gets talked about
where to keep your hair, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean I've never heard that before.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I just I went bald most of the time
just because I was having hot flashes at the same time,
because I went through surgical metopause at the same time.
So like I whipped my I had a wig, and
I like the one of the first few times.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
That I wore it, I was in the middle of
home people and had a hotplash and ripped it off.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
And I was like, Okay, did you imagine seeing that?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Oh this feels better? Okay, all right?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Pretty Oh I bet.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I bet I would have flipped out. All right, very good,
Thank you, ma'am, Thank.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
You, My grandpa. This is a DM My grandpa passed
last year and his evil wife was planning to cremate
him against his wishes without any kind of master ceremonies.
So immediately after he died, my aunt and I were
standing in the hospital room, looked at each other and
got to snippin'. There is no beautiful, full wreath, just

(12:01):
some smuggled hair in a ziploc bag.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
But what what what do you? What do you do
with that?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Like, at least at least with the museum like it's
it was turned into a wreath. Some of them almost
look like it's a it's not a belt, but it's
almost like that woven where it looks like an old yeah, exactly,
like like it's very tastefully done.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But if you're just keeping hair in a bag? What
are you doing with it?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You just wondered if people No, no.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Like that was her cancer hair. I get it.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
No, I'm talking about the direct message.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, but what are they gonna do with it? Just
keep it in a bag and.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Keep it away from the evil wife.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Those do look like braided belts.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, necklaces. Yeah, that's kind of cool. I'm being honest,
that's kind of cool. You.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I would not know that's hair.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, you would have no idea.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Whips a little bit, a little bit, but yeah, Like again,
I don't I don't want that for anybody, but I
wouldn't mind, like as a necklace. What a great talking piece. Elliott,
What is that? Oh that's Jackie's hair? Uh what Oh yeah,
it's her hair, you know, like like ed Geen.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
No, not that far, not that far. But I did
cut it all off of her line six. Hi Elliott
in the morning? Does this mean? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Who's this?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (13:32):
My name is Joy. My husband's family actually has a
hair book which is just generations of their family member's hair,
and President Buchanan's hair is in there because they were
related to him.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Wait a minute, your your husband's family is related to
former President Buchanan and in the hair book his hair
is in there also.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, Wow, that's kind of cool. I've never heard of
the hair book.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
I hadn't either. I'm married into this weird Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
How like, does somebody have to pass before their hair
is added to the book or does it get added
while they're alive.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
That's a really good question. I should ask that sometime.
I just know that, like when his grandmother passed away,
the hair book went to the oldest daughter and she
has since passed away, so it's still with her children.
So I don't know if they added the grandmother's.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Hair or Oh no, what I meant is is your
husband's hair in it? Yet? No?

Speaker 8 (14:39):
No, no, no, it's like it's old. There's a lot
of people's hair in it, but they're really.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And as a generation ago, as a spouse, will your hair.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Be in the book?

Speaker 8 (14:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I think that's a I think that's a very fair question.
You're part of the family, right, I am.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
I am, I've I've given birth to the only two
namesakes that they that the whole family. Yeah, so I no,
I do not need my hair in there, But I
do have locks of my baby's hair.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Kep, oh you know what I.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Feel like, I don't know people do that.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I have a lock of Marley's hair.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh we didn't do that the but no, I realized
like a lot of people do do a lot of
people do do that.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
So yeah, no that I get that. I get all right,
very good book.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah no, this is for generations. This goes back to
the President of Buchanan.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
How many dates before he mentioned this?

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Oh? I well, I think it was mentioned when.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I met the family, like, oh, he didn't even want to.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
Definitely didn't bring it up on his own. It was
like his parents.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Tom needed to tell her about the hair book.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
By the way, I am so goddamn petty.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
The first thing the day that the divorce was final,
I'd rip that hair right out of book.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
And I'm keeping the hair book.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
All right. Very good, very good, thank you, thank you. Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
By the way, the number of people that have hair
is crazy to me. Fine seven Hi Elliot.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
In the morning.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah? I got you. Who's this?

Speaker 6 (16:22):
This is Kristen?

Speaker 9 (16:22):
Hello, elliotts Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Good?

Speaker 7 (16:26):
So my mother has an old family Bible from the late.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
Seventeen hundreds early eighteen hundreds, and we found a.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Hair reef or like picture like it was pressed.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
It's probably about maybe an eight x ten side.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh wow, and it's all different.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
Colored hairs and looks like flowers and feathers and stuff
like that. But yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Family hair from eighteen hundreds. Isn't there something cool about that?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (16:53):
Yeah, absolutely. I thought we found it when I was
a kid, and I was like confused what it was,
and then it dawned on me.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
And it's still cool, but also kind of creepy at
the same.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Time, you know what, Like I get the creepiness, but
like like like, can you see anybody next to you?
Like I'm looking at Diane and Tyler and Kristen, like
I could see people.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
I can't see anybody right now.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Where are you? You can't see anybody.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
I'm at home by myself.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I work from home.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh okay, no, but you know, like, for example, look
at Diane's hair.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Look how pretty? So look at Diane's.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Hair drier than the other day.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, but I mean imagine now you see that in
a book.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Now it's two hundred years later and it's in a book.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But all you think about, is it like kind of
being like free and blowy and wavy and stuff, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
No, yeah, yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Thank you, Thank you these two.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
And you're looking at me like I'm an idiot, but yeah, no,
like there's something where it was like it you know
what that book years?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know what that book smells like after two hundred years?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Probably ass it's but that's okay.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Anything that's two hundred years old is gonna smell like that.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
I don't know, yeah, exactly exactly, especially if I had
him been stored properly, Like.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
What if what if we decided we were going to
start in Elliott in the Morning Listener Book of Hair,
and that way listeners would send us their hair God,
and we'll just put it into a book. I'm only
doing pubic however, No, but you know what I mean,
like there that would be that would be odd.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
That would be odd. And please don't send the hair in.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
The No, no, no, I will, I will not.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. Sweat
that block. Everybody's got family hair line three. Hi Elliott
the morning, Good morning, How are you good?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
How are you, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
So my grandfather's mother passed when he was little and
she wrote him this letter about.

Speaker 8 (19:06):
How she wouldn't see him grow up, and she cut
a piece of her own hair and put it in
the letter, and my family still has it, and it's
in a shadow box?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Is it really?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Why is it?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I can in two seconds I could go from like
there's something about like picturing the hair blowing in the
wind and being alive, and now it's like in a
shadow box and I'm like, uh, not creepy, creepy.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
Yeah, the letter, the letter, and like a watch that
she gave him in a lock of her hair is
all in the shadow box.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Hey can I ask this? And I don't know, maybe yes,
maybe no.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
But like back in like I don't know if it
would have been ww one ww.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Two that's you for going wrestling.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
No no, but you know what I mean, like back
back in back in the war like old wars, old wars,
and like if there was a young couple and the
husband had been no no, no no, I was gonna say,
like sent over, Yeah, it was all fighting was over.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
It was overseas fighting one of the wars.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Would he like as just as so that the wife
would have something would he send over, like a lock
of his hair? Would she send that back? Like the
deck goes back and forth.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
During the war, I could see, like there's something I've
never come across that from Instagram. My partner has her
dead mom's hair braided and ribbons post in a pattern
and framed on our wall. So that's pretty contemporary.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
See, and I hear that, and I think that's nice.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
That's nice hearing the setup for it.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, because it's like it's done and it's it's it's
made up and it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And it is somebody's hair.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yea line three, Hi Ellie the Morning because he was
building a skin suit. Oh yeah, hi Elliot the Morning.
The one time I use it where he's not fat,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (21:05):
Hey, can you harry?

Speaker 8 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Hey Yeah.

Speaker 9 (21:13):
So I play Santa and at the end of each
season I shaved my beard, well my wife's ever since
I started. She braids a piece of it and then
cuts it out and saves each year's beard from my
Santa Ethans.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And what are you gonna do with that?

Speaker 9 (21:31):
I have no idea. I thought it was kind of
weird that she wanted to do that. Somebody else recommended it,
and I was like, oh, I guess you want to,
so you like, do you.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Do a braid with the like with the rubber bands
and stuff in it? And then she just clips it off?

Speaker 9 (21:47):
Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
She can't.

Speaker 9 (21:49):
I mean, just one little piece before I get before
I remove it at the end of the year, right, yeah,
but she just takes one braid of it and saved it.
I have no idea what's gonna be tell with it.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, that's weird. That's a little bit weird. I'll give
you that, all right, very good, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Sir, but.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Just cut off santas. Yeah what I said, thank you? No,
but he said but but oh I didn't hear that.
Say something else. I didn't hear that, which list am
I on