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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael Wardians.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Done?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (00:06):
Not too much, trying to get back on Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
So so you did, I'm trying to remember you did
the ultra marathon challenge of seven seven fifty k's in
seven days on seven continents.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Correct. Yep? I just finished on Friday in Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Where did we talk to you? Where you were running
while we talked to you?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Madrid in Europe?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
That was day day five, So I still had two
more races to go in Brazil and then in Miami.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How was How was Miami?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was cold, but it was great.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I ended up securing the win in the marathon because
I was also competing in the marathon. I ran two
fifty six forty five, and then I went on to
win the fifty k and three forty six, which made
me about four hours, thirty eight minutes and forty seven
seconds faster than the previous world record overall.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh my god, dude, you blew it away.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, man, I crushed it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I haven't seen you dominate like that since you were
in the Arlington Elderly Olympics.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah. I mean we bowling and coquet, so you know
what's up.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So obviously you own that. Does it like when you
think back?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And I can't imagine how like that fifty k a
day is ridiculous, plus all the travel and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But when you look back, does it seem like.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You were running in Madrid in Australia last week?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, it feels like a million years ago already, which
is crazy, and you know I didn't. Yeah, it's only
been like three days, but it does feel like a
lifetime ago, and especially like in Antarctica, which was you know,
I don't know, less than nine days ago.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey, so when when did you get back? So obviously
you finished running in Miami on Friday. When did you
get back to Virginia?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I got back at two thirty in the morning on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Are you like, are you good or are you jacked up?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I would say I'm untethered from time at the moment,
but I'm good.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh, okay, okay. But physically you're fine, like weirdly jet lagged?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, like there's no there's no assemblance of like time
zones or anything. But physically I feel fine. I've already done.
I did a workout on Saturday with my friends, and
I slept for like an hour and then went and
worked out with my buddy Tom and some boys on Saturday,
and then worked out again on Sunday and Monday. So yeah,
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my body feels fine for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wait a minute, So you got back from running.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Fifty k's for seven days with all that travel, and
you got home Saturday morning and you're like, yeah, let's
go get a workout.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
In Yeah exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well I had to hear all the stories too, man,
there was like so many good stories from the trips.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You got to ask, Yeah, you don't have to do that.
Sit down in here. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Those guys are competitive.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
They wanted a chance to beat me at our workouts
while I was, you know, a little bit fatigued. So
it was fun to get after it with them on
a Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Michael, can I ask you this?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
And then?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
No, I was just saying then my buddy Tom. And
it was also nice to get back to my burpies.
I think I told you I was doing like a
hundred burpies a day for one hundred days, and I
ended up stopping at one hundred and eighty five days
because that was like the first fifty k and Antarctica,
and I realized very quickly that adding one hundred one
hundred burpies to the fifty k's every day, with all
(04:07):
the travel and everything, is going to just be too much.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So oh sweet, thank god, because I also stopped. I
stopped also during your run. Hey, Michael, can I ask
can I ask you some though the the like does
your body?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Does your body?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, let me back up a step in terms of
all the running crap that you've done the fifty k
a day for seven days in in seven continents, where
does that? Where does that rank in terms of being grueling?
Like I know you've done the marathon before, but where
does that? Where does that rank in terms of like
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all the stuff you've done?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Uh, I'd tell you it was. Actually it's pretty hard.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think it's it's just a cue of the thing,
like it's the running, with the travel, with the.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Uh, you know, lack of.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Like your food that you're used to, and then staying
healthy too, because you're just in a big group of
you know, sixty seven different people and you know you're
trying to avoid you know, if someone gets the stomach bug.
Everyone gets the stomach bug. So right, that was going on.
So yeah, so I mean there's a lot of different things,
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and then you're also dealing with you know, I think, well,
especially colder here than it was in Antarctica, but you're
dealing with like cold and then the next day it's
like ninety five or.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
A hundred somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, in Australia it was one hundred and seven. So
when we got off the plane, So it's yeah, kind
of dealing with those challenges and then you know, you're
going through airports and customs and immigration and waiting in lines,
and so I'd say it was it's up there as
one of the hardest things I've done, but you know,
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it's it's shorter than some of the big your things.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, you ran across a country. Hey, what is the
what is the like before before I move on?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Though?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Are you like, of all the people that ran, like,
are you will you remain friendly with them? Like did
you make did you make friendships out of that? Or
is it like everybody runs? And then it's like, well,
I'll see you whenever I see you.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
No, I'd say you make lifelong friendships. Yeah, I feel
like I want to be friends with the people from
the group. Yeah, for the rest of my life. Like,
there's there's some of the most interesting, like minded, curious,
adventurous people I've ever met. You know, there's people that
have rowed across well, one of the things I'm getting
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ready to do is row across the Atlantic. There were
two or three people in the group that had already
done that. There's people that you know, I've run, I've
done the North Pole Marathon. But there were a bunch
of the people that have done the North Pole Marathon.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
There's people that you know, just to have very interesting
and unique, unique lives and it was cool to you know,
get a chance to glimpse them and uh yeah, we
made really lifelong friendships. You know. There was a guy
next to me, this guy Greg, who I just love,
and his you know, his feet were mangled, and so
I was the doctoring him up before the last race.
(07:19):
You know, You're you're like cleaning out all the puffs
and everything and just kind of like getting them so
that he can actually stand on them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That says you're gonna die.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, but I mean, but but I've been checking up
on him to make sure, you know, that he's recovering well.
And it's not just him, it's you know, probably i'd
say more than half the group. And we actually just
have a what that group where you know, we're just
exchanging messages pretty much every day. So it's I don't know, yeah,
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it's it's it's one of those you know, friendships born
by trauma, right Like, it's very you become friends very
quickly when you strip away all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Hey, Michael, let me ask you this in terms of
in terms of recovery. Is your body you know, they'll say,
like like some athletes are just freaks of nature, right
like there it just for whatever reason, does your body
just recover miraculously?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I would say that people seem to think that. I
feel like I put a lot of thought and effort
into it, but I do think there's some natural ability
there that you know, other people it just takes them
a little bit longer to I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If it's as much physical as it is mental.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Like they're just drained after big races and I'm just
fired up. And the more that I do, the.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
More I want, the more I want to do, And
so I think that helps a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Are you hip to something called an a mortal chamber.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh, I don't even know what that is. No, tell
me more.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh so the I know that the Seahawks were are
like a bunch of them. Members of the Seahawks were
have been using it, not just last night coming off
the Super Bowl, but have been using it. So it
says the Seahawks are using one hundred and sixty thousand
dollars nervous system reset heading into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And they were talking.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
About like there's other athletes that use it, Like they
mentioned a couple of baseball players like Mike Trout and
Freddie Freeman. And it says when the body is in
a state of receivership, the body is less anxious and
less stressed. Shifted that into rest or digital stay. So
anyway you get in this chamber, I don't know what
it looks like, but you get red light therapy for
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cellular regeneration, vibro vibroacoustic sound to harmonize the nervous system,
pulsed electromagnetic fields to reduce inflammation and accelerate recovery, molecular
hydrogen to combat oxidation stress.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I don't know what that is, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Guided breath work in visual meditation for deep mental clarity
and relaxation.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So you don't know what that is.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean, I know what all those things are separately,
but I didn't know there was like a magic device
you could get. It's a little out of my budget,
but it seems pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
The no, Well, Tyler just pulled up a video.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It looks like this woman is like laying down on
this machine.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't know what you would call it. I'm surprised
it's open air. I thought, because you kept saying chamber,
I thought it would be enclosed also, right, but like.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's yeah, it's almost like that egg like that Djokovic
was supposedly sleeping in, you know, the tennis player. Like
I think he has like a oh.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, bear. Yeah, that's like a hyper bear chamber. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, this woman is laying on I don't like it's
almost like a like a like a glass bed with
like the top, like and these lights that come on,
like it looks like everything is red.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I mean, it's very attractive lady.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Not that that matters, but I guess a bunch of them,
a bunch of the Seahawks were using it as a
lead up to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
To get themselves like and some of.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Them were using it before the game just to kind
of get their bodies going.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Oh yeah, I'm I'm looking at it kind of online
also now and yeah, I don't know, it seems interesting.
It seems like maybe the Ravens have one too.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Why don't you run up to Baltimore real quick and
see if you could borrow it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, what's pretty cool is I work with MedStar, who work.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
With the Ravens. So maybe, yeah, maybe I'll chat with them.
I have a big run coming up for them to
all the MedStar facilities, so like maybe halfway through I
jump in the laity.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So wait you are?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So you're doing a run to all the different MedStar facilities.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, it's gonna be like a two hundred mile run
in April. So I'm gonna start in like Tiny Point
and run up to Baltimore and like touch base at
the various like MedStar locations.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Do you get food, like at least a taco bell
you were eating.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think there'll be food and like some of the
MedStar uh cafeterias are gonna come out?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Mean they do have cafeterias. But and then actually one
of the MedStar pets is an ultrarunner. Also that's got Chris,
so he's gonna run with me. So it's gonna be
pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Are they just hoping people follow you and like fall
and like break bones or something and at the hospital
like I don't, Hey, you know what, We're just gonna
have warny and run to all the different hospitals. And
now go back to the other thing you said, So
you're gonna run all the MedStar facilities?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Why not? What when is when are you rowing across
the Atlantic Ocean?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Twenty seven?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
So it should be starting December twelfth, twenty twenty seven.
Our younger, our youngest son, Grant will hopefully be enrolling
in college and you know, will be empty nesters.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Figure out I'm going to row across the ocean. Right
Most people are like, sweet, don't have to do it anymore?
Excellent pickleball? But have you Will this be the first?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Will this be like the first big thing non running
related you've done?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I mean, I did a bike packing adventure across the
South Island of New Zealand in twenty twenty four. But yeah,
it'll be kind of a big epic adventure that is
like non running related. Like this summer, I'm gonna do
like a really big running project running the Pacific Crest
Trail from the Canadian border to the Mexican border, and
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then kind of after that, I'm going to really focus
in and hone my skills for the rowing.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now the Pacific Crest Trail we've talked about before. The rowing,
like is who's going with you?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
This is solo, my friend.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna just get
in the boat and pack a bunch of food and
I'll be part of a race called the World's Toughest Row.
But but it'll be a solo row.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are there boats that trail you or something?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
No, No, you have like you have emergency beacons and
so they can get to you maybe in a couple
of days or a week or so. But yeah, once
you once you leave, you're on your own.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
God damn, you're stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
But you know what, like for example, like I I
have I think you could tell I don't have it.
I don't have interest in doing a lot of the
running things that you've done. No, old man hockey. The
why the rowing thing is intriguing to me. I am
not doing it, but that's intriguing.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Me, good man. I mean they they do have ones
that you can do, like a twelve person you can
do a four person.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You're not doing it. I'm not doing it, okay.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean I'm just offering you options.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
There there's there's there's something that can suit everyone. But yeah,
I just think it'll be a kind of an evolution
of myself as an athlete and just another adventure to
take on and in a different way. Like I've done
a lot of these projects with people. I mean, I've
done a lot of solo runs, but you know where
I'm completely self supported. But I think the the opportunity
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to be putting yourself out there where there's severe consequences
and you have to continually make the right decision day
after day and hour after hour. I'm looking forward to
like what that means, and you know, to see if
I can even do it. Yeah. I'm not coming from
a rowing background, so I've got a lot of work
to do between now and then. But I think that's
what's exciting about it.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yes, that's the and I was looking for exciting, all right, dude,
Well listen, I God, you're a freak. The congrats on
the congrats on the Ultra Marathon's good for you. And
then tell MedStar when you do that two hundred mile
run for them, tell them to get you one of
these immortal chambers for your house.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Oh my, I'm just going. I mean they have the
different facilities. There's a couple that are pretty close, so
ill off to check and do not have an agent?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Are you doing this for free?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
No, man, I haven't got an agent. He's great, a
guy named Josh Cox.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, you know what. I'm getting towels.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
We gotta get you to take care of all right, dude,
Bordie and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Thank you, my friend, Thank you Jesus Christ.