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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you remember the day?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you remember the day?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I'm gonna focus right, Do you remember the day we
did we bet our parlay on soccer?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wasn't it soccer?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, Rover wasn't Was that connected to Vegas or now?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No, that was just Zach.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Remember Zach had a drive across the Key Bridge in
order to place the bet for ut.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But I don't remember what brought that on.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So much had to happen for my rovers, that's right,
that's right to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, soccer going on right now?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't know. I don't follow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It seems like they're not in the Premier League. We'll
be lucky to be in the championship next year or
are they getting relegated again? We are fighting it off.
But as you know, the season runs from August to May.
It's like, I just I know it's a long season.
I know it's a long season. So you are in
the in the heart of it or not even I
can't say the heart of it. But but.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes, so the parlay was there was a bunch of
stuff that had to happen and we were gonna bet,
we bet, We bet.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
On all of them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But it was all English soccer. Yeah, that's okay, party
doesn't have to be the same sport. Well no, hell,
that was the same division. No, I know that, I
know that, But do you remember the excitement around that
and that the joy around that we were one leg away? Yes,
from it happening not only in terms of financial gain
(01:25):
but personal gain with the team.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
With your team.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I really cared more about the financial game that
I needed to do, right.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But anyway, so I was reading this whole.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thing about gambling and how like, obviously you don't have
to be a genius, right to go if you were
gonna bet just on one game, one game, let's just
say we're betting on the outcome, no prop bets or
anything like that, even though you could prop bet parlays.
If you were just betting on one game, like that's fun, right,
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Like you're like, oh, who's gonna win? That excitement though,
of like I'm betting. I've got a six leg parlay, right,
I'm betting on this one to win, and that one
to win, and that one to win, and that one
to win and that one to win.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The excitement and the adrenaline behind that, plus the what
you could win if you win is unbelievable. So they
were talking about especially with well that was the difference
too with ours. It was all happening at the same time.
(02:33):
The parlay can be over the course of multiple days.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it could be.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I was gonna say, you could bet, like, for example,
if you wanted to, you could bet. You could bet
an early college football game tomorrow. You could bet an
NFL game on Sunday, the Commander's game on Monday, like,
you could bet over day. You could throw a Caps
game in there, like it doesn't matter. You could bet
on anything as a parlay. They make so much money,
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so much money, and even though the payout is that
much higher.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
If you hit.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But then they got into some weird thing and this
I didn't understand, Like there was this whole story. I
will tell you this when you're reading, like why sports
books and bookies, Like I mean some people still have bookies,
but like back in the day, like why why so
many people love doing a parlay. It's all the adrenaline rush,
and it's all the how much you can make. But
they start getting into like how parlays benefit the casinos,
(03:33):
no duh, or the sports books or the apps or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I get all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, this is a great paragraph here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But but there's also something.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
About like for everyone you hit, you actually lose a
more percentage of the money. Like it was very bizarre.
The science behind it was really weird. So perhaps this
gets more technical, like you're suggesting as it goes on,
But I like this. The allure of the parlay is
part obvious, part insidious. Parlays up the stakes and the
potential bragging rights. Yes, they also stretch the entertainment of
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a wager across multiple games or turn or turn otherwise
inconsequential elements of a single game into decisive moments, but
parlays provide the illusion of almost winning a bet rather
than simply losing one.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right, so if you play a four leg parlay, right, yep. Well,
if it's just one game, you lost. But if it's
a if it's a four leg parlay, oh wait, thank
you m hm oh the mints were just your breaths kicking.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, no, no, but another one of those classics will
help you out Elliott.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Jokes, the uh no no.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But if it's a four leg parlay and you win
to lose two, then you're like, oh, I almost won,
as opposed to just betting on game, and you're like,
a crap, yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The sportsbooks advantage stems not from the long odds, but
from complicated math that most users never bother to do.
As legs are added to the bet, the chance of
winning drops faster than the growth of the potential payout.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, that is true. That is true.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The average sports better does not understand the terrible odds
of a parlay. I see, I disagree with that. I
disagree with that. Or how even if they win the bet,
the operators are still generating enormous amounts of revenue off
these wagers in the long run.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Okay, that that's the part I didn't understand. That's the
part I didn't understand. But don't don't be insulting to
the to the gambler.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Because the odds are so crappy on a parlay.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And to begin with, everybody and everybody knows that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, Diane, if it were, if it were, I'm just
betting on one thing, whether whether you're you're you're just
betting a flat out win or the spread or whatever.
It is, right, But don't tell me like, oh well,
when you start adding to it. Gamblers, don't realize that
that your odds of winning go down.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, we do like that.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's insulting to say there's nobody who's like, well, I
got an eight game, eight leg parlay, going, this is
easier than if I.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Just bet on a one game. No, that's ridiculous, But
that's insulting.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The chance of winning drops faster than the growth of
the payoff. Absolutely, absolutely, okay, but that's a little more
detailed than just saying you don't realize that it's harder.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Okay, but you know what, you know, you know what
goes up more rapidly than all of that, the fun.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
The fun goes up.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That was the first thing pointed to the entertainment.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Hi, Elliott in the morning, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Mama? How are you? Tyler?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah? I hit eight legs last night. No, you did
not really giant on my mother's earn.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, that means you're kind of serious. Wait, so what
were don't be asked me?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What were the eight? What were the eight?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Go pulling up the picture right now, sakuon Barkley to
have fifty plus rushing Jalen hurts over eighteen completions. Jalen
Hurts to have one hundred and fifty, passing aj Brown
to record twenty five, receiving DeVonta Smith twenty five, receiving
lon Dale Robinson twenty five, receiving Cam Scattlebow over fifty
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rushing and reception. I got thirty and I hit one
hundred and eighty seven bucks.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Beautiful, beautiful and dude, And by the way, like I
don't don't you think it should be more than that.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
The I mean I to get one hundred eight odds
of that happening. The odds of all of those bets
were extremely high happening. That's why I did it. They
were like negative seven hundred, negative one thousand. So you
have to do a lot of them in order to
make some sort.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of somebody, right, Yeah, but like like you said, any
one of them, did any one of those on their own,
you would be like, Okay, that makes.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Fun, that's easy.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So to bet ten to get buck thirty, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Wait a minute, you've never yeah, you've never bet a
parlay before.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I bet a parlay with like two maybe three, But
I did eight last night. And I said, wait a second,
because I found this on a book face page and
I snapped the picture and I said, he had like
fifteen and I said, let me just pick from these.
So I looked at the odds of each one. Maybe
three minutes of my time. That's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was cool.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And of course the hot Asian wife, well, we're in
my hat.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, right, of course, of course I'm there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, Fat Chris.
But you know what, you know what, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What my problem is. You know, I love a parlay,
Like a parlay is great. Betting a parlay is awesome.
You know what I don't like to do. I don't
like to bet a same game parlay like he did,
like Fat Chris did. I don't like that because I
feel like if you bust your bust. But what do
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you mean by that, like it's all over.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like like I like I want it to yea.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You also, if you lose an early leg a multi
sport parlay, it's over.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, because you still want to see did I get
the other ones? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean you still lost?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well yeah kind of kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's like the power ball, Yeah okay, but like when
you have the first three, so Let's let's take perfect example.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Perfect example, you turn on the you turn on.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Elliott in the morning, and you hear my dearest Diane say,
well there was no power Ball winner.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You still look at your ticket to see how you did.
You know you didn't win it. So the same thing.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I may lose the first leg of a five game parlay,
but I still want to see it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I won four out of five, which makes.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You think will crumble that up immediately.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't. I'm smart.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I got four out of five, right, huh, Yeah, I
want to confirm I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now. If you go zero for five, you're like, oh god,
things rigged. If you were offended by the earlier statement,
this is gonna irku you even more. Don't talk to
don't talk to gamblers like we're stupid. It's more risky
to drive a car if you don't know how to
drive a car.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No dut no dut.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So if you don't know what's really going on in
a parlay and you don't really know where your money
is going, how it's going in, and how it's coming out,
is that more risky just financially? Wait, say that again.
If you don't know what's really going on, and you
don't really know where your money is going, how it's
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going in and how it's coming out. Is that more
risky just financially, I don't know, I know how it's
going in that MGM yes, and then that could start
to lead some to some other problematic gambling extra don't
bet with your head not above it. Even those who
know the risk might not care, you know why, because
it's fun.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Now they were wanted kristin other than fat Chris, find
me anybody that bet parlays last night? You had fourteen
hockey games, you had, you had baseball, you had football
last night. You had college football last night.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You had NBA preseason betting on by the way, people
who bet on preseason sports.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You got an extra set. No, you really do? You
really do?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Hell, you can find me somebody who's lined up for
the weekend eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five four six eight I'm sorry, say again.
So the Post took these findings to some of the
online casinos like DraftKings FanDuel. The DraftKings response was, Hey,
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the parlays resonate because they move authentically with how people
actually experienced sports. Yes, FANDUIL want to step further and
said that more than half of parlay wagers on our
platform are less than five dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I believe that so.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Customers understand that these are just fun, entertaining bets with
a lower likelihood of winning. Okay, well, don't dumb it
down that much for me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, but it is cheaper.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's like when he said he'd put down thirty. That's high.
I would believe that. Yes, the average parlay is pretty low,
as Americans re manufactuated with parlays, though operators are benefit.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Fund Yes they do.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, think about it, if you had if you
had one hundred fat Chrises last night, right, so you
ended up having to pay all that money. Do you
know how many fat chris Is lost last night?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Parlays generate a substantial share of a sportsbooks revenue, even
though only about one third of money is wagered on
the bets. Yeah, so that tells you the volume. In Maryland,
for instance, betters have spent thirty six percent of their
sports betting dollars on parlays this year. Right, These those
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bets are responsible for sixty seven percent of the sportsbook's revenue.
Three hundred and fifteen million dollars into the coffers of
fan duel, DraftKings, and others, with the state on pace
to top last year's revenue from parlays.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Parleys are great.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
For the sports book.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, no, absolutely, gambling is great for the sports book.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But this, you know what it is, can buy fun? Well, actually,
I am buying fun.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But that's and that's exactly it. It's because you have
always treated it, whether it's betting on sports, sitting down
at a table game, or.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm paying for entertainment exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But that's not how everyone treats gambling. So you hear
all of this and you're offended because you always bet
with your head and not above it, knowing that you're
paying a premium on just having fun. Yeah, it's not
always the case. Yeah, I like going out and having
beers with my friends. I know at the end of
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the night, the bar isn't giving me all my money back.
That's a weird comparison.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, no, what I'm saying, or they're not giving me
more money back. I'm going out and I'm paying for
entertainment and I'm having a good time. That's what gambling is.
Sometimes though sometimes Sometimes at the salt line, I get
a free banana split. Sometimes at the sportsbook, I get
money back.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So do these apps? Will they push you or promote
a parlay to you to combine bets like there's a
gun to your head. So as we just read, that
gives them a much better edge. Yes, yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh it's predatory, of course, but not in a bad way.
Not in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They know it's fun, super popular, it says among younger audiences.
Thank you, okay, Hi twenty one to twenty four. Yeah,
I know that you have forty, yes, but stop pretending
like you're not twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Hi, Elliet the morning.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Hey this me?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Miss Nick?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Hey? What's going on? Dude?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Not much?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Just uh yeah, I got beat up pretty bad last
night with my uh my parlays.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That couple I missed by one, the missed by one,
but look how smart you were on the other ones.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Oh I nailed the other one.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I got a bill up and nothing there you go.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
No, I did multi sport.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I did multi multi sports.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I bet Phillies.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I bet Phillies game an the Eagles, and uh yeah
I teased the Phillies game. So that way, I you know,
because I had a hunds they were gonna lose, but
I gave them plus two and a half and then
uh the Eagles, I just needed to take bom Barkley
to score a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, well you know what. Listen, these things happened. These
things happened. But let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But it is fun.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But thank you, that's all you gotta say.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was fun. That's all you gotta say. Absolutely, absolutely,
very good, thank.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You, thank you. Combined with potential alcohol consumption.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh which, by the way, at the brick and mortar.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They push on you special offers and over confidence. Parley
rolls on.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm telling you what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
We I think I I think I said this during
the playoffs last year, we were all over at Coast
Guard Kurtz House, and all of our Olive boys were home,
like literally, all the boys were home like kids.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Who was it that got hurt? Somebody who plays It
was a late game. It's somebody who plays for the
Edmonton Oilers got hurt in the first period and exited
the game. And I asked you not everybody watching TV
pulled out their phone to start betting.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, this says greatest thing in the world. The caller,
I wish I had been a gambling didn't lead on
that this is going to be the case today. But
uh they hypought this up as ad. Betters chase their
losses with parlays because the potential payout might seem to
be the quickest way to recoup loss money.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I get that. I don't do that, but I
get it.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I get so.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, No, I get it. I get that. I do
that more at table games. Ty, who's this? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Hi, yeah, yeah, yesterday I had a six for that
Eagles lost them all. It was shot kan Bley ninety yards.
Say they hands for the yards anytime. That's so for
Boxley and I only got like two out of six,
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but you got two.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
How much did you lose last night?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Ten dot? It's not two months, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And that's where I think all this gets lost in
the parlay is the amount, thank you, sir. The height
of fun is so to the gap between the height
of fun and the little bit of money gambled. That's
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a big stretch. That's a big stretch. So you have
all that fun and like you said, I lost ten bucks. Yeah,
it's not going to change his life. Two out of
six is not a near miss.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Got two, Elliott? You walk away going I nailed those two.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, it's fun, it's great. What have I always told
you guys? You have to spend money to make money?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right? Can hascroll prostitute?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean I got a million fables?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You could turn on a West Coast baseball game at
ten thirty at night between two teams you don't care about.
You want to care, start betting, pull out your phone, Hi,
Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, this me.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And by the way, you could pull out your phone
for two bucks. But you'll watch that game like you've
got a million dollars riding on it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, sir, who is this?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
This is David from Richmond.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So I hit big last night and it never happens
for me, but.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You get five five bucks, five bucks.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Bucks one four and fifty five dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Shut your mouth, dude. How many legs? How many legs? Five?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
It was only five legs, but it was New York
Giants minus two and a half. Jalen hurts anytime TV
cam scattabout Anytime TV, Wandell Robinson Anytime TV and Jackson
Dart Anytime TD. The odds were pluck twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Thousand, beautiful, beautiful. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, but that that look that never happens. I'm known for.
I'm a parlay in front of all the friends, the
parlay guy never hit. Last year, I did a twenty
leg parlay. It was a five dollars bet to win
thirty thousand dollars. I hit nineteen of the twenty legs
and I lost them on a Christian McCaffrey Anytime TV,
which should have been a lock.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I don't have the ball. You know what, Now here's
the problem. Here's the problem. Twenty legs seems impossible to hit.
If I by the way, if I lost five bucks
but I got nineteen out of twenty, I would I
would run. I would circle the globe telling everybody I
hit nineteen out of twenty. Like to me that that's
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incredible because going in at twenty and they were like,
there's no way one of these is gonna fumble or
stumble like you know that.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, and you know this is why I do it.
I do it for the you know you mentioned the fun.
It is fun. You put five dollars down on a
game on a day, on an NFL Sunday, put five
dollars down, You build out your parlay legs what you
think you're gonna do. I mean, it's like playing fantasy football,
just on a daily basis. Yes, you put it out there,
and then you're watching the games. You're locked in, You're
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you're wanting to see, you know, NFL red Zone, You're
watching every play because you want your thing to hit,
and so on. That Christian McCaffrey, the nineteen leg one.
It was a night game. So by that point we
had a lot of friends over and we're all glued
to the TV, and I'm standing up at every red
zone opportunity thinking this is it. Christian McCaffrey's going there,
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And then he didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
All right, dude, I appreciate it. Thank you, my friend. Yes,
Todder near missus can activate the brain in a similar
way a win would. Yes for somebody who already has
a gambling problem, not bitch hitting. They just say four
out of five likes, for instance, might feel closer to
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the big payath than they everyone really well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
No, not just that I was gonna say, if I
hit nineteen out of twenty, I'm not kidding. I would
be like Wardion. I'd run across the country telling everybody
I got nineteen out of twenty.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
And when you're brain turns on the ability to reason
and to think through, it goes down because of emotional excitement.
They're thinking more with their emotional experience than with the
logical side, So odds become even less important.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yes, yes, what are the odds of getting twenty out
of twenty? I'll tell you zero? But I'm still good.
That's why I would never do that many. I would
never do that many.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What would be your sweet spot?
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Five?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If I felt really good? Six?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's actually maybe ten?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, no, no, no, because ten. I know I'm not
going to get ten out of ten. I know I'm
not going to get ten out of ten. By the way,
I'm not going to get six out of six. It's
five bucks. Who cares?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I spend more than that on door dash Hi Elli
in the morning, I probably DoorDash while I was watching
the games.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Hello, Hey, Elliott sabah Aunington.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Hey did I meet you at the Locker's event?
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Nice talk to you? How's it going good?
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Hey Tyler, how are you?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm doing well. Good to talk to you.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Yeah. So this is like my nightly jam. I mean,
yesterday I had so many screens going with all those games.
But there's a saying in the industry, and it's straight
wagers build bank rolls and parlays build casinos.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wait, hold on, I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Hold on, let me let me move my canal and
nut t shirt and design a side.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So straight wagers build bank rolls.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Build bank rolls, parlays build casinos.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
And if you think about the average straight wager, the
house has about eleven percent advantage of the vague that
they take their right and not to get to matthew
on you. But with like the expected value of parlays,
that shoots up to a much higher percentage of the
edge for the house. And the absolute biggest percentage is
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the same game parlays, which is why they push it
so hard these days.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But you know what, why is it? Sabah?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Let me ask you this, Like, I understand you said
you had so many screens going last night. Are you
are you a same game parlay guy or are you
a multi game parlay guy?
Speaker 9 (24:13):
So if I'm actually, if there's something I like, there's
a big hockey game or whatever that I really like
one side or the other, I'll put a lot on
a straight wager. Parlays are just for fun, Like, I'm
not gonna put more than a couple of bucks in
a parlay just to see if it hits. And if
I've got a bunch of games going, like fourteen hockey
games and you know, ball game, a couple of baseball
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games yesterday, all that stuff, I'll throw all of them in,
all my picks together, because if I go perfect on
the night, that's just a crazy hit and that's the
high in the euphoria that you're talking about from you know,
just a couple of bucks on like at fifteen, like parlay,
did you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Bet on all fourteen hockey games last night?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I may or may not have had a little bit
going either on one of the teams or the over
under shot shot crops. Shot props are awesome to follow to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh, by the way, you know who's gonna crush it
on shot props this year in bizarre from Chicago, Oh
my god, yesterday there you go, Oh my god, that
guy if the punk touches his stake.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's going towards the net. Oh my god.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
But you know what, you know what, he was stuck
on one shot all the way until they made it
to overtime and then he just unloaded and overtime and
hit the over.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Gotta try to score, listen, I gotta get the punk
on the net.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
By the way, remind me the place that you own?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Or is this a bad time to tie that in
when everybody knows that you're a gambler.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
No, it's fine. I don't gamble with company money, obviously,
it's just for fine. I do it on my own.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But but like remember when we talked about the sport
paddle or what is it?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Paddler?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
It's paddle.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, he owns paddle up the facility, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's awesome.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Yeah yeah, I'm pulling up to that right now. I'd
love to have you guys out anytime.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. I, uh, let's parlay bet that I whip.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Your ass, dude.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
So so my my group chat with all my buddies
is called the parlay pack.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh there you go, very good, very good. Hey do
you do you bet every single night?
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Uh? Well, not tonight because there's no hockey and I'm
going to the Chappelle Show, So no phone, no damp alright,
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Hey, nice to talk to you, buddy.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah you too, all right, you got to want.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
To talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh man, oh man, that's Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Hey, Parlay's bill casinos, that's all you gotta know. I
don't know why when he repeated that, you kept cheering
that off because it's a great saying, which is a
tie better say again anti better unless you're the casino. No,
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but if I bankrolls, Yeah, I took that the other way.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That was all for me.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If I win a straight bet, i'd win a bankroll.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
If I win all my parlays, it's like, I want
a casino.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's for me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay. You gotta think like Sabah. And we both went
to Georgetown
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Right, and one of us has a company
Do you remember the day?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you remember the day?
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I'm gonna focus right, Do you remember the day we
did we bet our parlay on soccer?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Wasn't it soccer?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, Rover wasn't Was that connected to Vegas or now?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No, that was just Zach.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Remember Zach had a drive across the Key Bridge in
order to place the bet for ut.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But I don't remember what brought that on.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So much had to happen for my rovers, that's right,
that's right to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, soccer going on right now?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't know. I don't follow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It seems like they're not in the Premier League. We'll
be lucky to be in the championship next year or
are they getting relegated again? We are fighting it off.
But as you know, the season runs from August to May.
It's like, I just I know it's a long season.
I know it's a long season. So you are in
the in the heart of it or not even I
can't say the heart of it. But but.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes, so the parlay was there was a bunch of
stuff that had to happen and we were gonna bet,
we bet, We bet.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
On all of them.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But it was all English soccer. Yeah, that's okay, party
doesn't have to be the same sport. Well no, hell,
that was the same division. No, I know that, I
know that, But do you remember the excitement around that
and that the joy around that we were one leg away? Yes,
from it happening not only in terms of financial gain
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but personal gain with the team.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
With your team.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I really cared more about the financial game that
I needed to do, right.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But anyway, so I was reading this whole.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thing about gambling and how like, obviously you don't have
to be a genius, right to go if you were
gonna bet just on one game, one game, let's just
say we're betting on the outcome, no prop bets or
anything like that, even though you could prop bet parlays.
If you were just betting on one game, like that's fun, right,
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Like you're like, oh, who's gonna win? That excitement though,
of like I'm betting. I've got a six leg parlay, right,
I'm betting on this one to win, and that one
to win, and that one to win, and that one
to win and that one to win.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The excitement and the adrenaline behind that, plus the what
you could win if you win is unbelievable. So they
were talking about especially with well that was the difference
too with ours. It was all happening at the same time.
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The parlay can be over the course of multiple days.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, it could be.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I was gonna say, you could bet, like, for example,
if you wanted to, you could bet. You could bet
an early college football game tomorrow. You could bet an
NFL game on Sunday, the Commander's game on Monday, like,
you could bet over day. You could throw a Caps
game in there, like it doesn't matter. You could bet
on anything as a parlay. They make so much money,
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so much money, and even though the payout is that
much higher.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
If you hit.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But then they got into some weird thing and this
I didn't understand, Like there was this whole story. I
will tell you this when you're reading, like why sports
books and bookies, Like I mean some people still have bookies,
but like back in the day, like why why so
many people love doing a parlay. It's all the adrenaline rush,
and it's all the how much you can make. But
they start getting into like how parlays benefit the casinos,
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no duh, or the sports books or the apps or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I get all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, this is a great paragraph here.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But but there's also something.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
About like for everyone you hit, you actually lose a
more percentage of the money. Like it was very bizarre.
The science behind it was really weird. So perhaps this
gets more technical, like you're suggesting as it goes on,
But I like this. The allure of the parlay is
part obvious, part insidious. Parlays up the stakes and the
potential bragging rights. Yes, they also stretch the entertainment of
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a wager across multiple games or turn or turn otherwise
inconsequential elements of a single game into decisive moments, but
parlays provide the illusion of almost winning a bet rather
than simply losing one.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right, so if you play a four leg parlay, right, yep. Well,
if it's just one game, you lost. But if it's
a if it's a four leg parlay, oh wait, thank
you m hm oh the mints were just your breaths kicking.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, no, no, but another one of those classics will
help you out Elliott.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Jokes, the uh no no.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But if it's a four leg parlay and you win
to lose two, then you're like, oh, I almost won,
as opposed to just betting on game, and you're like,
a crap, yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The sportsbooks advantage stems not from the long odds, but
from complicated math that most users never bother to do.
As legs are added to the bet, the chance of
winning drops faster than the growth of the potential payout.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, that is true. That is true.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The average sports better does not understand the terrible odds
of a parlay. I see, I disagree with that. I
disagree with that. Or how even if they win the bet,
the operators are still generating enormous amounts of revenue off
these wagers in the long run.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Okay, that that's the part I didn't understand. That's the
part I didn't understand. But don't don't be insulting to
the to the gambler.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Because the odds are so crappy on a parlay.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And to begin with, everybody and everybody knows that.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, Diane, if it were, if it were, I'm just
betting on one thing, whether whether you're you're you're just
betting a flat out win or the spread or whatever.
It is, right, But don't tell me like, oh well,
when you start adding to it. Gamblers, don't realize that
that your odds of winning go down.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, we do like that.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's insulting to say there's nobody who's like, well, I
got an eight game, eight leg parlay, going, this is
easier than if I.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Just bet on a one game. No, that's ridiculous, But
that's insulting.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The chance of winning drops faster than the growth of
the payoff. Absolutely, absolutely, okay, but that's a little more
detailed than just saying you don't realize that it's harder.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Okay, but you know what, you know, you know what
goes up more rapidly than all of that, the fun.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
The fun goes up.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That was the first thing pointed to the entertainment.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Hi, Elliott in the morning, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Mama? How are you? Tyler?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah? I hit eight legs last night. No, you did
not really giant on my mother's earn.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, that means you're kind of serious. Wait, so what
were don't be asked me?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
What were the eight? What were the eight?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Go pulling up the picture right now, sakuon Barkley to
have fifty plus rushing Jalen hurts over eighteen completions. Jalen
Hurts to have one hundred and fifty, passing aj Brown
to record twenty five, receiving DeVonta Smith twenty five, receiving
lon Dale Robinson twenty five, receiving Cam Scattlebow over fifty
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rushing and reception. I got thirty and I hit one
hundred and eighty seven bucks.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Beautiful, beautiful and dude, And by the way, like I
don't don't you think it should be more than that.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
The I mean I to get one hundred eight odds
of that happening. The odds of all of those bets
were extremely high happening. That's why I did it. They
were like negative seven hundred, negative one thousand. So you
have to do a lot of them in order to
make some sort.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of somebody, right, Yeah, but like like you said, any
one of them, did any one of those on their own,
you would be like, Okay, that makes.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Fun, that's easy.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So to bet ten to get buck thirty, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Wait a minute, you've never yeah, you've never bet a
parlay before.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I bet a parlay with like two maybe three, But
I did eight last night. And I said, wait a second,
because I found this on a book face page and
I snapped the picture and I said, he had like
fifteen and I said, let me just pick from these.
So I looked at the odds of each one. Maybe
three minutes of my time. That's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was cool.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And of course the hot Asian wife, well, we're in
my hat.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, right, of course, of course I'm there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, Fat Chris.
But you know what, you know what, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What my problem is. You know, I love a parlay,
Like a parlay is great. Betting a parlay is awesome.
You know what I don't like to do. I don't
like to bet a same game parlay like he did,
like Fat Chris did. I don't like that because I
feel like if you bust your bust. But what do
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you mean by that, like it's all over.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Like like I like I want it to yea.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You also, if you lose an early leg a multi
sport parlay, it's over.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, because you still want to see did I get
the other ones? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean you still lost?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well yeah kind of kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That's like the power ball, Yeah okay, but like when
you have the first three, so Let's let's take perfect example.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Perfect example, you turn on the you turn on.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Elliott in the morning, and you hear my dearest Diane say,
well there was no power Ball winner.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You still look at your ticket to see how you did.
You know you didn't win it. So the same thing.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I may lose the first leg of a five game parlay,
but I still want to see it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I won four out of five, which makes.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You think will crumble that up immediately.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't. I'm smart.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I got four out of five, right, huh, Yeah, I
want to confirm I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Now. If you go zero for five, you're like, oh god,
things rigged. If you were offended by the earlier statement,
this is gonna irku you even more. Don't talk to
don't talk to gamblers like we're stupid. It's more risky
to drive a car if you don't know how to
drive a car.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No dut no dut.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So if you don't know what's really going on in
a parlay and you don't really know where your money
is going, how it's going in, and how it's coming out,
is that more risky just financially? Wait, say that again.
If you don't know what's really going on, and you
don't really know where your money is going, how it's
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going in and how it's coming out. Is that more
risky just financially, I don't know, I know how it's
going in that MGM yes, and then that could start
to lead some to some other problematic gambling extra don't
bet with your head not above it. Even those who
know the risk might not care, you know why, because
it's fun.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Now they were wanted kristin other than fat Chris, find
me anybody that bet parlays last night? You had fourteen
hockey games, you had, you had baseball, you had football
last night. You had college football last night.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You had NBA preseason betting on by the way, people
who bet on preseason sports.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You got an extra set. No, you really do? You
really do?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Hell, you can find me somebody who's lined up for
the weekend eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five four six eight I'm sorry, say again.
So the Post took these findings to some of the
online casinos like DraftKings FanDuel. The DraftKings response was, Hey,
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the parlays resonate because they move authentically with how people
actually experienced sports. Yes, FANDUIL want to step further and
said that more than half of parlay wagers on our
platform are less than five dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I believe that so.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Customers understand that these are just fun, entertaining bets with
a lower likelihood of winning. Okay, well, don't dumb it
down that much for me.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, no, but it is cheaper.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's like when he said he'd put down thirty. That's high.
I would believe that. Yes, the average parlay is pretty low,
as Americans re manufactuated with parlays, though operators are benefit.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Fund Yes they do.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, think about it, if you had if you
had one hundred fat Chrises last night, right, so you
ended up having to pay all that money. Do you
know how many fat chris Is lost last night?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Parlays generate a substantial share of a sportsbooks revenue, even
though only about one third of money is wagered on
the bets. Yeah, so that tells you the volume. In Maryland,
for instance, betters have spent thirty six percent of their
sports betting dollars on parlays this year. Right, These those
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bets are responsible for sixty seven percent of the sportsbook's revenue.
Three hundred and fifteen million dollars into the coffers of
fan duel, DraftKings, and others, with the state on pace
to top last year's revenue from parlays.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Parleys are great.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
For the sports book.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, no, absolutely, gambling is great for the sports book.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
But this, you know what it is, can buy fun? Well, actually,
I am buying fun.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But that's and that's exactly it. It's because you have
always treated it, whether it's betting on sports, sitting down
at a table game, or.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm paying for entertainment exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But that's not how everyone treats gambling. So you hear
all of this and you're offended because you always bet
with your head and not above it, knowing that you're
paying a premium on just having fun. Yeah, it's not
always the case. Yeah, I like going out and having
beers with my friends. I know at the end of
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the night, the bar isn't giving me all my money back.
That's a weird comparison.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, no, what I'm saying, or they're not giving me
more money back. I'm going out and I'm paying for
entertainment and I'm having a good time. That's what gambling is.
Sometimes though sometimes Sometimes at the salt line, I get
a free banana split. Sometimes at the sportsbook, I get
money back.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So do these apps? Will they push you or promote
a parlay to you to combine bets like there's a
gun to your head. So as we just read, that
gives them a much better edge. Yes, yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh it's predatory, of course, but not in a bad way.
Not in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They know it's fun, super popular, it says among younger audiences.
Thank you, okay, Hi twenty one to twenty four. Yeah,
I know that you have forty, yes, but stop pretending
like you're not twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Hi, Elliet the morning.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Hey this me?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Miss Nick?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Hey? What's going on? Dude?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Not much?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Just uh yeah, I got beat up pretty bad last
night with my uh my parlays.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That couple I missed by one, the missed by one,
but look how smart you were on the other ones.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Oh I nailed the other one.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I got a bill up and nothing there you go.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
No, I did multi sport.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I did multi multi sports.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I bet Phillies.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I bet Phillies game an the Eagles, and uh yeah
I teased the Phillies game. So that way, I you know,
because I had a hunds they were gonna lose, but
I gave them plus two and a half and then
uh the Eagles, I just needed to take bom Barkley
to score a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, well you know what. Listen, these things happened. These
things happened. But let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But it is fun.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But thank you, that's all you gotta say.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was fun. That's all you gotta say. Absolutely, absolutely,
very good, thank.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You, thank you. Combined with potential alcohol consumption.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh which, by the way, at the brick and mortar.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
They push on you special offers and over confidence. Parley
rolls on.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm telling you what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
We I think I I think I said this during
the playoffs last year, we were all over at Coast
Guard Kurtz House, and all of our Olive boys were home,
like literally, all the boys were home like kids.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Who was it that got hurt? Somebody who plays It
was a late game. It's somebody who plays for the
Edmonton Oilers got hurt in the first period and exited
the game. And I asked you not everybody watching TV
pulled out their phone to start betting.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Now, this says greatest thing in the world. The caller,
I wish I had been a gambling didn't lead on
that this is going to be the case today. But
uh they hypought this up as ad. Betters chase their
losses with parlays because the potential payout might seem to
be the quickest way to recoup loss money.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, I get that. I don't do that, but I
get it.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I get so.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, No, I get it. I get that. I do
that more at table games. Ty, who's this? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Hi, yeah, yeah, yesterday I had a six for that
Eagles lost them all. It was shot kan Bley ninety yards.
Say they hands for the yards anytime. That's so for
Boxley and I only got like two out of six,
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but you got two.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
How much did you lose last night?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Ten dot? It's not two months, yes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And that's where I think all this gets lost in
the parlay is the amount, thank you, sir. The height
of fun is so to the gap between the height
of fun and the little bit of money gambled. That's
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a big stretch. That's a big stretch. So you have
all that fun and like you said, I lost ten bucks. Yeah,
it's not going to change his life. Two out of
six is not a near miss.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Got two, Elliott? You walk away going I nailed those two.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, it's fun, it's great. What have I always told
you guys? You have to spend money to make money?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right? Can hascroll prostitute?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I mean I got a million fables?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You could turn on a West Coast baseball game at
ten thirty at night between two teams you don't care about.
You want to care, start betting, pull out your phone, Hi,
Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, this me.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And by the way, you could pull out your phone
for two bucks. But you'll watch that game like you've
got a million dollars riding on it.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yes, sir, who is this?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
This is David from Richmond.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So I hit big last night and it never happens
for me, but.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You get five five bucks, five bucks.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Bucks one four and fifty five dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Shut your mouth, dude. How many legs? How many legs? Five?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
It was only five legs, but it was New York
Giants minus two and a half. Jalen hurts anytime TV
cam scattabout Anytime TV, Wandell Robinson Anytime TV and Jackson
Dart Anytime TD. The odds were pluck twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Thousand, beautiful, beautiful. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, but that that look that never happens. I'm known for.
I'm a parlay in front of all the friends, the
parlay guy never hit. Last year, I did a twenty
leg parlay. It was a five dollars bet to win
thirty thousand dollars. I hit nineteen of the twenty legs
and I lost them on a Christian McCaffrey Anytime TV,
which should have been a lock.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I don't have the ball. You know what, Now here's
the problem. Here's the problem. Twenty legs seems impossible to hit.
If I by the way, if I lost five bucks
but I got nineteen out of twenty, I would I
would run. I would circle the globe telling everybody I
hit nineteen out of twenty. Like to me that that's
(20:32):
incredible because going in at twenty and they were like,
there's no way one of these is gonna fumble or
stumble like you know that.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Well, and you know this is why I do it.
I do it for the you know you mentioned the fun.
It is fun. You put five dollars down on a
game on a day, on an NFL Sunday, put five
dollars down, You build out your parlay legs what you
think you're gonna do. I mean, it's like playing fantasy football,
just on a daily basis. Yes, you put it out there,
and then you're watching the games. You're locked in, You're
(21:02):
you're wanting to see, you know, NFL red Zone, You're
watching every play because you want your thing to hit,
and so on. That Christian McCaffrey, the nineteen leg one.
It was a night game. So by that point we
had a lot of friends over and we're all glued
to the TV, and I'm standing up at every red
zone opportunity thinking this is it. Christian McCaffrey's going there,
(21:23):
And then he didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
All right, dude, I appreciate it. Thank you, my friend. Yes,
Todder near missus can activate the brain in a similar
way a win would. Yes for somebody who already has
a gambling problem, not bitch hitting. They just say four
out of five likes, for instance, might feel closer to
(21:47):
the big payath than they everyone really well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
No, not just that I was gonna say, if I
hit nineteen out of twenty, I'm not kidding. I would
be like Wardion. I'd run across the country telling everybody
I got nineteen out of twenty.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
And when you're brain turns on the ability to reason
and to think through, it goes down because of emotional excitement.
They're thinking more with their emotional experience than with the
logical side, So odds become even less important.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yes, yes, what are the odds of getting twenty out
of twenty? I'll tell you zero? But I'm still good.
That's why I would never do that many. I would
never do that many.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What would be your sweet spot?
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Five?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If I felt really good? Six?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's actually maybe ten?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, no, no, no, because ten. I know I'm not
going to get ten out of ten. I know I'm
not going to get ten out of ten. By the way,
I'm not going to get six out of six. It's
five bucks. Who cares?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I spend more than that on door dash Hi Elli
in the morning, I probably DoorDash while I was watching
the games.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Hello, Hey, Elliott sabah Aunington.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Hey did I meet you at the Locker's event?
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Nice talk to you? How's it going good?
Speaker 9 (23:01):
Hey Tyler, how are you?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm doing well. Good to talk to you.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Yeah. So this is like my nightly jam. I mean,
yesterday I had so many screens going with all those games.
But there's a saying in the industry, and it's straight
wagers build bank rolls and parlays build casinos.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wait, hold on, I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Hold on, let me let me move my canal and
nut t shirt and design a side.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So straight wagers build bank rolls.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Build bank rolls, parlays build casinos.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
And if you think about the average straight wager, the
house has about eleven percent advantage of the vague that
they take their right and not to get to matthew
on you. But with like the expected value of parlays,
that shoots up to a much higher percentage of the
edge for the house. And the absolute biggest percentage is
(23:54):
the same game parlays, which is why they push it
so hard these days.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But you know what, why is it? Sabah?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Let me ask you this, Like, I understand you said
you had so many screens going last night. Are you
are you a same game parlay guy or are you
a multi game parlay guy?
Speaker 9 (24:13):
So if I'm actually, if there's something I like, there's
a big hockey game or whatever that I really like
one side or the other, I'll put a lot on
a straight wager. Parlays are just for fun, Like, I'm
not gonna put more than a couple of bucks in
a parlay just to see if it hits. And if
I've got a bunch of games going, like fourteen hockey
games and you know, ball game, a couple of baseball
(24:36):
games yesterday, all that stuff, I'll throw all of them in,
all my picks together, because if I go perfect on
the night, that's just a crazy hit and that's the
high in the euphoria that you're talking about from you know,
just a couple of bucks on like at fifteen, like parlay,
did you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Bet on all fourteen hockey games last night?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
I may or may not have had a little bit
going either on one of the teams or the over
under shot shot crops. Shot props are awesome to follow to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh, by the way, you know who's gonna crush it
on shot props this year in bizarre from Chicago, Oh
my god, yesterday there you go, Oh my god, that
guy if the punk touches his stake.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's going towards the net. Oh my god.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
But you know what, you know what, he was stuck
on one shot all the way until they made it
to overtime and then he just unloaded and overtime and
hit the over.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Gotta try to score, listen, I gotta get the punk
on the net.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
By the way, remind me the place that you own?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Or is this a bad time to tie that in
when everybody knows that you're a gambler.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
No, it's fine. I don't gamble with company money, obviously,
it's just for fine. I do it on my own.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But but like remember when we talked about the sport
paddle or what is it?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Paddler?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
It's paddle.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, he owns paddle up the facility, dude.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's awesome.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Yeah yeah, I'm pulling up to that right now. I'd
love to have you guys out anytime.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. I, uh, let's parlay bet that I whip.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Your ass, dude.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
So so my my group chat with all my buddies
is called the parlay pack.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh there you go, very good, very good. Hey do
you do you bet every single night?
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Uh? Well, not tonight because there's no hockey and I'm
going to the Chappelle Show, So no phone, no damp alright,
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Hey, nice to talk to you, buddy.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah you too, all right, you got to want.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
To talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh man, oh man, that's Oh that's great.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Hey, Parlay's bill casinos, that's all you gotta know. I
don't know why when he repeated that, you kept cheering
that off because it's a great saying, which is a
tie better say again anti better unless you're the casino. No,
(27:04):
but if I bankrolls, Yeah, I took that the other way.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That was all for me.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If I win a straight bet, i'd win a bankroll.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
If I win all my parlays, it's like, I want
a casino.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's for me.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Okay. You gotta think like Sabah. And we both went
to Georgetown
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Right, and one of us has a company
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